I hopefully kill Hussie

>rape

>>41656957
This is an ANCIENT post.
>Turn into ponies
I want to read a green where karkat stays a troll enters into an abusive relationship with rarity, who is raping him every fortnight.

>>41656957
>invade
What, is Equestria the new battlefield where the chesspeople fight? Or did the trolls just create Equestria?

>>41656963
Every timeline involves Hussie getting killed and the genesis frog dragging its universal balls on his face

>>41656963
God I wish
I wish so bad

Homoshit is one of these things from the early 2010s that I don't miss.

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>>41656988
What does Kakarot have to do with this?

>>41657023
Best stuff that happened in the comic predates that decade tbdesu

>>41657023
its pretty much the exact same as ponies but edgier and the characters are less fuckable

>>41657023
It got so bad near the end. And that's not even getting into the weird sequel with a cuck fetish.

>>41657055
>ITT: only statements that apply to both homosuck and horse

>>41657053
Ponies and Homestuck are literally two sides of the same coin.
>Both fandoms properly started on /co/ and deviantart.
>Fandoms both got removed from /co/.
>Fandoms both targeted by outsiders who didn't like us simply because we were too big.
>Homestuck and g4 both about friendship.
>Both medias get ruined by later writers.
>Both fandoms split up into people who argue now about what is and isn't canon.
>Both fandoms can't stand the later writers and production studios.
>Both fandoms struggled with their source being used for extremist politics.
>Homestuck fandom started askblogs and lead to ponies doing the same.
>Both fandoms filled with high powered autism.
>Fandoms were initially united before Homestucks switched alliances with hetalia due to both fandoms changing cultural landscape.
>Both fandoms have history of making dark and sad art.
>Both fandoms have history of making fan music.
The majority of early pony fans were also Homestuck fans to some degree. This only stopped closer to the mid tens. This is why if you look back far enough in the archives, you'll find a wealth of crossover art.
Nobody remembers this anymore except people who were actually there for the traditional fandom.

>>41657068
>the majority of early pony fans were also Homestuck fans to some degree
Power level time. Equius is my patron troll and the comic is the sole reason I know I'm a Saggitarius. The comic got me to read Carl Jung's archetypes. I still listen to Bowman's solo music and I was hooked because of Sburban Jungle. I strongly relate to Void and am a Derse dreamer.

>>41657068
I don't see people being embarrassed for being a brony like I do Homestuck. Hell the last few update threads for it had people saying they jumped ship for MLP and feel happier for it.
You don't know how bad it is in Homestuck.

>>41657068
More shared experience
>Both have horrible endings
>Both have cuck sequels
>Both go far away from the authors original intentions (sort of the same exact area actually).
>Both have sub-fandoms spawning off of fanfics (sometimes also from songs)
>Both have history of greens.
>Both used pastebin to make fic and greens.
>Both were the largest new fandoms spanning the earth online.
>Both have fantropes with rape and slavery (Homestuck has petstuck, /MLP/ has SPG.)
>Large art community for both.
>Both have grimdark genre of fan content.
There's more but I can't remember.
Homestuck and ponies are two sides of the same coin. New fans should really learn their history.
Especially since it can provide interesting insights. Honestucks also had the same problem with mass fan content deletion and artists getting weird about their creations. Horsefuckers dealt with this by archiving everything- but homestucks did not. This lead to a massive loss in their culture.
Powerful lesson to be had, considering their similarity and relation to horse fandom.

>>41657083
>I don't see people being embarrassed about being a brony the way they are about Homestuck
Anon. How fucking new are you? I can tell you from experience, there was no greater way to attract vitriol than to wear a pony shirt in 2012. It took several years just to lose the gay stigma and it has kept the furry stigma to this day. I personally knew raging autists who made me look bad by association, talking like a retard and bragging about their fanfics in school even to people who explicitly did not want to hear it. I STILL hate seeing my teenaged pics with a Hot Topic derpy backpack.

>>41657089
>tumblr purge
The memories...I made a tumblr just to follow some smut artists, and now my favorite works from them are scattered across the aether..

>>41657083
>You don't know how bad it is
Hell I don't, I've been on this ship since 2009. I was dual-fandoming for both Homestuck and ponies from the start.
>I don't see people being embarrassed
That's an effect of being primarily around other people who are into MLP. Step outside the community and you'll see a lot of people who will hide their power level at all costs. Especially IRL. >>41657078
MY BROTHER IN ARMS. Dude so much of this is my experience too- except my patron is gamzee and my moon is prospit. Strongly relating to rage.
People here really missed out on the experience of being into both fandoms at the same time. It was incredible in the early days.
I miss most of all the community and the weird psychic feelings you got. Especially whenever new fanart was made.
That and "upd8" culture. Hussie is a cunt for never bringing back the progress bar.

>>41657097
Ahhh, Rage. Sometimes I think about the Big Lie we call the American dream and can't help but sympathize with the Rage-bound...but in reality, I am spiritually numb and incapable of understanding the greater universe. I will never stop trying to stay alive, simply because I don't want to die. Like Guts, except without the whole being a badass thing. But higher things are alien to me.

>>41656957
vriska as a pony is just starlight glimmer

>>41657105
What are you guys on about? Is it something specific to Homestuck? Seems like some kind of k-mart brand enneagram.

>>41657083
Can confirm. People said things would be nicer and I'm enjoying myself here more than I have in the last ten years of Homestuck.

I tried reading homestuck but I got bored very quickly. The only other person I knew who read it was the weird girl in school who would fart really loudly in the middle of class all the time.

>>41657110
Accurate. Total bitch, does horrible things to several timelines of the same world for an alleged greater good, undergoes small character development after she stops being important, then undoes it in the finale. ^:)

>>41657114
In Homestuck there are archetypes called Aspects that have a physical power, psychological traits and narrative functions. Rage players are known for their obsessive pursuit of the truth and the breaking of immersion, and life shattering changes in perspective. Void players are capable physically but spiritually/psychologically unwell, with Roxy being an alcoholic and Equius being consumed with emotions he strains himself to contain.

>>41657131
If you ever do pick it back up, I suggest not skipping acts 1-3. It is laden with obscure and overly verbose gags and such, but things come full circle a lot and it's a major draw of the writing style. As an example, Liv Tyler the stuffed bunny has a really satisfying time-travel-utilizing narrative throughline concluding with John literally setting the past into motion to How Do I Live. It's comedic gold but it's also extremely satisfying.

>>41657068
there's at least some truth to this, I was introduced to homestuck by some girls in my DA pony circle
ironically I kind of dropped out of both before the worst happened, and later got back into both, just much more casually. funny how that works

>>41656963
fpbp I will never forgive him

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>>41657136
Don't pick it back up.
The early stuff is good but what makes Homestuck SO bad is that it was once SO good. And no, no matter how much you say anything, even current MLP is better than the current state of Homestuck.

Current Homestuck is horrible. Insanely, impossible horrible.

>>41657132
I see.
>>41657144
What made it so good, and when did it go to hell?

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>>41657152
>what made it so good
It was basically a webcomic that took full advantage of the medium it was in and spun out a huge amount of plot and character threads over years, along with a breakneck update pace that encouraged constantly watching it, all supported by the author, at one point, being a really good writer.

>when did it go to hell
Debatable for the most part. The objective point of no return is when the author wrote himself into a corner and his dad died, he went off the deep end HARD and became obsessed with hypertext and viewing himself as the next james joyce. So he wrote an in-universe retcon that brought a character back to life, made the two leads gay, and generally undid a massive amount of character everything because he had commissioned an animator to make the ending four years before he wrote that ending.

Then it just kept going downhill. He lost a multi-million dollar publishing deal because the later content was so incredibly terrible it torpedoed readership numbers, which he doubled down on and started a sequel that was made entirely to pay back the debt he accrued from losing that publishing deal, tried to sue Youtubers for reporting on it, and so on.

It's a mess and basically a single guy's descent into insanity over him being unable to take his ego being challenged. Do not read it.

>>41657105
>Big lie
I reject the modern classpect diagram desu. Though I do think big lie plays into rage, I don't think it's the way the new guide says it does.
I think a lot of what's written in there is nu-fandom interpolations. (IE- rage being written by nu fans who don't like the clowns. Same thing with hope and the violet bloods in later works like hiveswap.)
Who knows though, maybe even me talking about this says something to the big lie angle.
>Higher things are alien to me
Very void way to say that. I would say that the video on void and absurdism is a definite watch for you. I think you'd find it relatable.
>>41657105
True in many ways. Many many ways. slight difference is vriska was introduced during what most fans consider canon.
>>41657096
>The smut artists
The terrible thing about that was that a lot of smut was getting so advanced back in the day that it got to be more like "high art" then just porn. Like yeah, you could beat your dick to it as intended. But some of it was so beautifully drawn it could be appreciated outside of jerking your meat too.
Fuck it didn't even just target the porn, there's so many FICS that are just GONE. really really good stuff.
This isn't even covering the way homestuck content was targeted off Tumblr too. The experience is so similar to what happened with us in ponies- I wish that homestucks learned the same lesson about archiving...
>>41657114
See
>>41657132
That said, there's a few distinct schools of interpretation on aspects. These archeryes are paired with subtypes (class and moon). We can boil down the schools of interpretation to old (pre 2016 established ideas) and new (post 2016 ideas that were made dubiously "canon" by fans for nothing other than to piss off old fans)
Think of it as being kind of similar to what happened with cutie marks.
>>41657138
>Da pony circle
DEEP cut. There were so many people who had the same experience you did. I remember being in a few pony groups back then with the same situation. Vice versa too.
>Dropped out of both before they got worse, came back later.
It really is funny how that sort of thing works out. the fandoms are way more quiet now and a lot easier to navigate, that's for sure.

>>41657179
The smut scene now is also terrible. Nothing but pages of fat hairy Jades with dog penises and tranny eridans.

>>41657158
I have insight on this situation, because I got too close to the "what pumpkin team".
The issue wasn't even that hussie wrote himself into a corner. The issue ultimately was that hussie got tired of writing the comic, and he gave up control of it to people who were only in the fandom because he had a huge pull on the internet.
The retcon and all of the other shit is stuff that's made by the "what pumpkin writing team".
You'll meet people that will claim sometimes "oh it was always planned!" It was NOT. hussie writes by the swat of his pants, but when he does it on his own he does great.
But what happened is he gave up creative control to people who wanted to spite old generations of fans with opinions that were purposefully controversial and aimed at punishing people they didn't like. (See the situation with Kate). On top of that, he was throwing random storms ideas at them and letting them juggle it.

>>41657179
>big lie
That isn't a homestuck thing, lol. I mean the ancient idea of a great lie that acts as foundation for a society and that normies cannot uncover. The lie I was referring to is "if you work hard and do the right thing, you will be able to live a comfortable life." Yknow, the American dream.
That being said I confess to being out of my depth with classes and the old/new dichotomy around the aspects. I only explored aspects deeply for a short while after the Extended Zodiac released.
>the smut artists
I agree but also I was mostly there to beat it to Rose-anon's fats, so not exactly high art. Aside from a couple RoseMary pics I could also just call cute.>>41657196

>>41657196
Hussie historically let people influence the comic (his girlfriend is why we have trolls). But this got out of hand once they had a writing "team" made of pissed off and hateful assholes.
The majority of the later parts of if not all of it have effectively no input from hussie. This fandom infighting squirming into canon is what makes it as shit as it is.
Same situation happened with ponies (writers spiting the fans). But imagine how much worse off the fandom would be if bandwagoners made it onto the MLP writing team specifically to spite fans.

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>>41657196
It's time to accept that Hussie also is a major fuckup and sucks in general as a person now. Things like Yiffy were his mandates.

>>41657201
fuggin phone...
>>41657196
>the drama
Accurate explanation. The trannyfication of half the cast was definitely done to spite people especially. I think Hussie's ability to write insanity that stays internally consistent is proven as early as Problem Sleuth. I feel like despite the retcon the Collide and Act 7 animations were still great, but could have been nigh-perfect if Hussie actually wrote it himself.

>>41657201
>Isn't a Homestuck thing
Ohh, I thought you were referring to the extended zodiac bit. There's a thing they put in there about rage being about deconstruction of big lies to expose truth. Which only makes partial sense, it's only really there in the extended to piss off people from old fandom (clown fags and old school classpecters)
>Out of depth with new/old classpects dichotomy
Maannnn, try researching whatever exists from pre 2016 pre extended zodiac analysis if you're ever interested. some of it is incredible. (Some of it also directly used MLP for analysis).
>Smut
No shame in that bro.
Sorry your stash got obliterated, it's all gone.
ALL GONE.
>>41657184
The smut scene is fucking scary is what it is, it's got horribly creepy vibes. This is saying something considering the weird porn we can put out at times.

>>41657228
I mean at least in my mind, Gamzee's reaction to ICP made sense. Being shown what he at first assumed to be blasphemy against the mirthful messiahs, but actually proved to reveal not only the contrived origins of his religion but all the contrivances that prove Homestuck is fictional. I didn't get that from the extended zodiac.
>read up on pre-2016 classpecting
I keep putting off that research...been meaning to reread the comic with aspects in mind but life's just been. Not great. One day...

>>41657212
The animations are good, it's a similar situation (again) to what we have in ponies.
Some of the stuff in the later acts is good. Some of the later episodes of MLP were good.
But at the end of the day, both would have been far better if their source authors (Lauren/hussie) were the writers.
>>41657210
>Sucks as a person
He is really, really difficult now a days. It's so hard to be around him, the dude has cultivated the worst group ever. (Looking at IPGD here)
>His mandates
Maybe, but it's hard for me to believe cuck baby was his mandate. I know he likes to troll, but my experience has been most of the stuff people claim "were planned by hussie all along' have proven to be false.
I base this off personal experience around the what pumpkin crew, and the general way the fans got him to do stupid shit.
Good example of this is vriska- for as much as people claim her as his waifu, it wasn't even hussie who wanted her back. She only came back because of his girlfriend. (Can't remember if Rachel or Shelby craggs younger sister she presented as an offering to him)

>>41657253
remember fat Vriska lmfao, good times
If they made that canon I think it would be less hated than trans Vriska

>>41657253
It is. He did it because he was mad a pregnant Jade fetish artist

>>41657258
>Fat vriska
Funniest fucking thing ever.
>Trans vriska
the move to make a mass murderer and rapist trans was an incredible one.

>>41657262
....really? Are you talking about the 3D davejade preg artist?
Now THAT I could believe.

>>41657271
Yeah. Who also ironically quit Homestuck for MLP

>>41657267
I almost love that detail. Desu, the legbutts can have her!
And like many trans folk and rapists, she was groomed (as a ghost) topfuckinglel

>>41657068
man, remember when homestuck cosplayers were at EVERY con because it was so fucking cheap

>>41657158
I just tell people to read PS and then homestuck up to Cascade and then decide for themselves if it feels like enough of an ending or if they need to tempt fate

>>41657299
>the sharpie bath skin poisoning
>the unsealed grey body paint
>THE BUCKET ASSAULTS
Terror.

>>41657306
Honestly? That's a good take. Maybe I would go a little further if you can stomach the teen drama of the Alpha session. But I am a MASSIVE stan for a certain time lord. I literally listen to his grating evil little gremlin voice EVERY MONTH on the Let's Read Homestuck playlist. That VA makes him just perfect.

>>41657319
The reason I pick Cascade is because its actually a good ending, if you read past it, you get sucked into the act 6 storyline(s) and that's just a setup for disappointment in the end. Sometimes its best to just quit while you're ahead, kinda like how I tell people they only NEED to watch pony up to Crusaders of the Lost Mark

>>41657158
Now I know. Thanks. So, there really wasn't anything exceptional about it, aside from it's timing and persistence. That right?
What do you think sets pony apart from Homestuck? Something must.
>>416571799
>Think of it as being kind of similar to what happened with cutie marks.
I've only been into ponies about as long as Tamers has been on /mlp/, so I have no idea what you mean by that. Anything worth reading on the matter, or is it just a lump of whatever?

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>>41657324
>What do you think sets pony apart from Homestuck?
It's not fucking miserable all the time. Homestuck is now about a bunch of people going through mid life crises and how everything sucks and relationships don't work out.

It's fucking boring.

>>41657331
Jesus, Dave going in for the kill
>it's not fucking miserable all the time
We suffer so that net suffering doesn't go to Equestria. 's hardly fair for us in this life, is it...

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>>41657324
>What do you think sets pony apart from Homestuck?
coming from someone who has been off the homestuck ride for a LONG time: lack of character development. The homestuck characters were all so detailed that there wasn't much room for an active fandom to iterate on them, so once it went to shit it stayed shit. Ponies are one dimensional kids show characters so if we don't like how the show portrays them we can just... choose to ignore the show, or pick a pony that doesn't even have a character and make her our own.
Homestuck had a really robust canon for OCs but that can only take you so far, there's no official art for OCs so you can't just jump in on one. Anyone can pick a background pony and love them

>>41657344
>we suffer
I'm having a great time here, dunno about you.

>>41657346
This is accurate. All the complexities of our favorite ponies are essentially headcanon, while Homestuck has pretty complex characters whose personality and abilities are extensively explained. A lot more homework to make fan content, even OC universes like Vast Error are still based on the complex framework Hussie built.
>>41657349
Lucky bastard.

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>>41657356
its not hard to have fun on the internet dot com, just remember none of these people are real until mare fair and this is your playground to enjoy yourself

>>41657357
I'm real

>>41657357
>until mare fair
LUCKY BASTARD...

mating press terezi

>>41657362
not til you 1v1 me at marefair
>>41657365
you better be there anon

>>41657369
Good taste.
>>41657372
I HAVE. NOTHING. I WILL PROBABLY NEVER BE ABLE TO GOM EVER.

>>41657369
more like mating press a bucket and send it to her

>>41657373
START SAVING THEM PENNIES LAD if you can get there you can crash my hotel room couch

>>41657324
>So, there really wasn't anything exceptional about it, aside from it's timing and persistence. That right?
The first half of the story is genuinely great. It's the craziest journey I have ever experienced in a piece of media. Hussie describes it as a story that is also a puzzle, where you're given all the pieces of worldbuilding and you have to put it all together yourself. It's not a story that holds your hand. But for that, I love it. It was innovative and creative and it scratched every itch that I never knew I wanted scratched. It was also one of the funniest things I have ever read.

The second half is like getting kicked in the balls, repeatedly, for 4000 pages.

>>41657380
>4000 pages
sounds light for act 6, shit felt like 10k

>>41657372
1v1 you at what?

>>41657376
THERE ARE NO PENNIES. I have lost twenty pounds in one month to starvation. I just checked. Twenty fucking pounds. There are no corners left to cut. MY LIFE IS ON FIRE.

>>41657386
The last part of the comic, after the retcon, where they're on the frog platform just talking endlessly has 10% of the text of the whole story and is as long as Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. It's so poorly paced and all that happens is Dave whines about Bro and toxic masculinity. Like, I swear to god, Problem Sleuth in its entirety has half the word count. It's such a slog and makes me want to die.

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>>41657369
jade*

>>41657402
I never minded that part of the comic and it certainly wasn't all Dirk and Dave hashing feelings. It is a wall of text but hardly THAT bad. Compared to the back to back quadrant lessons and shit.

>>41657331
People try to say the pony fandom is dead. But they don't know how bad things truly can be. The Homestuck fandom is true, miserable death.

>>41657410
counterpoint: the quadrant lessons were actually interesting and I got a heavy laugh out of him poking fun at it with the green guys' 16 way shipping chart or whatever

>>41657418
good fucking god the Felt romance chart...

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>>41657415
You guys have a working fanfic website, multiple multi-hundred attendee conventions around the year PER year, two fucking MMOs.

We get people bitching if they draw Dave white.

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>>41657430
well yeah, everyone knows being white is a superpower

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>>41657346
as a former heavily homestucked asshole who never ponied until recently:
homestuck was a towering jenga stack of hyper-specific referential pop-culture humor that no one else understood how it all connected, so you were left giggling like a jackass at completely mundane stuff, and if you said it was a homestuck joke your friends would just get mad at you. "Everything's a goddamn homestuck joke!" well yeah that's the point.

whereas my little pony is a show about horses

>>41657430
remember when hussie's only answer to shit like this is "you can see them in the comic"

>>41657434
for me Peachygate is when the comic dumpstered because it was clear huss was starting to listen to the wrong fans too much

still can't believe he ran the most successful kickstarter project of all time and then immediately got scammed and embezzled and lost all of it and he still hasn't completed the fucking game yet

at least we still have the music

image related

>>41657475
yeah, you can always play undertale and listen to homestuck music

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>>41657475
He didn't even get scammed. Turns out he mismanaged everything and the studio he hired never got any plans from him in any real way.

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>>41657489

>>41657331
That isn't a very satisfying answer.
>>41657346
This is. That makes perfect sense.
>>41657357
How's Mare Fair for newfags?
>>41657380
I don't think being great is anything exceptional. I feel like everybody only has room for a handful of great works in their life, and I'm full up. What you get full up on is a matter of timing more than anything. Exceptional works are timeless, and a special kind of easy.

>>41657503
>how's marefair for newfags
just show up and have fun. Its a building where at least 1100 people have something in common with you

>>41657503
>That isn't a very satisfying answer.
Welcome to Homestuck. Nothing is satisfying.

Op here. Holy fuck I didn't expect so many conversations. I'm probably going to read all this tomorrow

>>41657319
I like him too (I think most anons would), my general thing is "end it at cascade, everything else afterwards is CYOA". >>41657324
Fandom understanding of cutie marks changed as the show had different writers every season. Early on there was a pretty cohesive understanding that a special talent didn't have to relate to the job you did and that the mark itself was symbolic. Later on this changed to alot of fans thinking it was inherently tied into the job you did.
Basically early fans worked off cutiemark lore that was already displayed in the show, later fans and writers ignored it.
>Lump of whatever
For classpects or early cutie marks?
For classpects, yes lots of early analysis are worth reading. If they still exist, check them out.
For old cutiemark lore? Uh, hard to say. I'm not sure if that survived to the modern day in the archives.

>>41657526
I like the way they took CMs where they still displayed your talent but how you applied that talent was up to you

>>41657526
everything after Cascade is such absolute hotdogwater trash, frankly that's the part that makes me embarrassed to mention homestuck to people who aren't already cringe lifestylers. it's just too much powerlevel for normalfags to handle.

>>41657532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIF9KRBbAWU

>>41657532
>gee crusaders, we're sure to get our cutie marks with this new video game!

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Kanaya is CUTE!

>>41657557
I love the Chorale leitmotif. I think the only one I like more is Terezi's with the fuckin uhhhh whatchamacallit instrument.
>>41657585
Imagine Rose and Kanaya in Earth C (WITHOUT THE EPILOGUE) riding Maplehoof or another horse together in a wide open prairie.

>>41657588
harpsichord?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn6Yl371mIc

>>41657610
Ye! I love it in Terezi Owns especially. Has a certain lawful evil vibe to it while also seeming triumphant too.
>>41657613
And THIS MELODY TOO. Fuck. Why is Terezi SOOOOO COOOOOOL? >;]

>>41657616
my favorite harpsichord piece is probably still the intro to Wind Waker: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=jNuLYOMwdS0

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Reminder that Dirk is canonically a dashfag

>>41657481
If hussie wasn't a nigger hiveswap would be as popular as undetale

>>41657666
Of course a homo would be a dashfag

>>41657559
>they don't know

>>41657697
>let's make the kid version of one of the coolest characters in the comic a raging homo and also the original version was actually le abusive or something
Fuck you Hussie

>>41657718
I mean....it was always abusive

>>41657734
Bro was A: preparing Dave for Sburb and B: just totally clueless on how to be a parent.
The man cut a meteor in half just to buy Dave some time.

>>41657759
>dave stans
>ungrateful
name a more iconic duo

>>41657759
Being abusive doesn't mean you don't care. Take Bojack Horseman. He cared about Hollyhock but that didn't make his reaction to her dumping his pain pills any less abusive.

>>41657734
The thing with the abusive bro thing is that it's a later interpreting of earlier actions of a guardian character. I think again, to spite early fans who really liked a sweeter portrayal of their dynamic.
This doesn't mean it's a bad way to interpret the character, but the issue is that typically is relies on using homestucks early humor as a means of weighing bro's actions.
This same logic can easily be used to deconstruct Dad Egbert and call him abusive. (He force feeds John cake- clearly the sign of an abusive sociopath with a feeding fetish).
I think there's room to interpret bro as abusive or as a guardian trying his best.
Personally, I think the best view is somewhere in the middle.

>>41657799
This. John attacking his dad with a hammer was never meant to be taken literally, it was always just playing around.

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Never forget what they took from you

I'd fuck a Karkat pone.

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I'd fuck Kanaya.

>>41657734
Homestuck is a COMEDY. Jade was raised by a DOG. John fought his dad with HAMMERS.

Hey, let's take every comedy seriously! Whoa, Tom and Jerry is just ANIMAL ABUSE! And don't get me started on the Three Stooges!

>>41657901
It's not like Homestuck never got serious or had any kind of seriousness. It's more than JUST a comedy. Like John and Rose engaging in passive-aggressive faux-combat scenarios where Dad is just offering cake and Mom's offering niceties is a lot different than Bro constantly drowning Dave in gay puppets and surrounding him in sharp objects from a very young age. The entire mood is different, and even as early as Dave's "john is a hero, im not" monologue it was clear he was wrestling with feelings of inadequacy and mixed emotions about his Bro.
Comparing Homestuck to Tom and Jerry is beyond farcical.

>>41657929
Dave was just a dork who couldn't handle having a cool brother

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>>41657937
And was too chickenshit to fuck the puppygirl

>>41657948
even though she was a weird fujo furry she could get it so bad, second hottest character in homosuck

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>>41657937
This is the most hostile act John's dad performs: making too much birthday cake and insisting he has some. In the entire comic he doesn't antagonize him in any other way. In fact he's supportive and repeatedly affirms his son's manhood in a variety of goofy and niche ways, like a note under a safe congratulating him for picking up the safe like a manly man.

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>>41657951
She wasn't even a fujo.

>>41657956
John's dad is one of the most wholesome characters I can think of

>>41657957
And yet, he acknowledges there being serious drama. Weird!

>>41657969
>the opinion of one person on the chinese basketweaving forum
I'm convinced.

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>>41657964
Look at this stunning display of realistic child abuse. There are swords in the fridge! Holy shit, call the CPA! I can't believe anyone would think this is just a joke. No, no. I mean, Jesus, all those puppets too? Clearly I am supposed to be horrified at this tragic upbringing.

No, the tone may have changed later on, but early Homestuck is Looney Tunes level of stupid. You're not supposed to think this is actually awful. You're supposed to LAUGH. Retconning that to make serious is beyond retarded. Do you like the domestic abuse episode of Family Guy too?

>>41657986
All you're doing is arguing from incredulity based solely on the tiniest details you can think of. Mom Lalonde and Dad Egbert don't do anything even remotely comparable to justify strifing. Meanwhile, Bro Strider beats Dave down on a regular basis, challenges him to duels, torments him with Lil Cal at all times, stuffs weapons in every orifice of the house, and intentionally evokes Jigsaw whoops, I mean, Caliborn at any opportunity he can. Dave's beatdowns aren't just laughed off and let go without any further context, he's physically exhausted and scuffed whereas both John and Rose just get away unscathed with no massive consequences. And whether you consider everything after Cascade canon or anything after the trolls are introduced or not doesn't matter. Because even early on, he's GRIEVING OVER BRO'S FUCKING CORPSE AND UNPACKING HIS CONFLICTED FEELINGS. OH YEAH LIGHTHEARTED COMEDY WITH NO SERIOUS STORY ELEMENTS HERE, ALSO THERE'S A SWORD STUCK THROUGH BRO'S CHEST AND DAVE IS CLEARLY SHAKEN.
How silly of me to get immersed in this clearly totally unserious and inconsequential story. Fuck sake, do you even LIKE the comic man? Or are you projecting your dislike of it because you can't be assed to immerse yourself in a cartoon story? Hell of a board to take a stance like that on.

>>41657959
Dave would be an apple fag.

>>41658018
dave would be a flutterfag because he's a massive cuck

>>41658020
I'm mad but I can see it.
What about the other beta kids? I feel like rose is a rarafag. John is a dash fag. Jade is an applefag. (Possibly a ponkfag)

>>41658040
Jade would like Pinkie, very similar.

>>41658049
my favorite horse is nothing like me though

>>41656957
>Karkat
Raped by everyone. Never leaves his home again.
>Equius
Arrested for public indecency.
>Terezi
Big Mac has a restraining order for her because she kept sucking on him for his juicy red coat.
The apples don't like to talk about the teal menace.
>Gamzee
Don't ask what happened at sugar cube corner.
>Kanaya
Leaves rose to pine for rarity, working part time at her boutique.
Rarity rapes karkat instead.
Kanaya wishes it would be her.
>Nepeta
Possibly doing dungeon and dragons with big Mac, Tavros, Discord and Spike every other week.
>Tavros
Becoming a pony, he miraculously got functioning hind legs! He was overjoyed. He spent many days playing, frolicking even, in fields of green with the local pony community. Racing with Applejack and rainbow dash especially.
Vriska was extremely jealous and proceeded to push him Infront of a moving train.
Tavros has no legs.

>>41658064
>the teal menace
I love her so much
>Tavros has no legs
kek, deserved

>>41658064
>Vriska
Spends most of her time volunteering for palliative care for tavros (rape) while she helps the local pony community (rape) by being a good pony (rapist).
Regularly instigates full on public meltdowns when she's unhappy with public workers. Acts like everything is their fault and people sort of just agree because they don't understand why it's happening (no one is as mean as her in equestria). Spends a lot of time at skate parks. Slowly hanging out with glimmer more to teach rad manipul8ion skills.
Scootaloo has a crush on her.
Celestia would banish her to the stars if she knew what vriska was up to.
>Rose
After kanaya left her, she became the biggest patron of Apple farms cider.
When she's not blasted, rose enjoys writing gothic fiction. Twilight and her meet about once a week to discuss intellectual topics, and twilight will regularly stock a book of hers in the library.
Sometimes though, rose comes over drunk and cries. Keeps asking twilight for advice, but ignores everything she says.
>John
He thinks ponies are cool, spends alot of his time lamenting his lack of hands though. Otherwise he's just kind of having fun, he's more like a G1 scootertrix pony. Hangs out with dash alot because she reminds him of Dave (and a little bit of vriska).
Really proud of vriska's Good Pony Arc (oblivious to rape crimes)
>Jade
Starts a rival pumpkin farm in ponyville. On mostly good terms with apple though, share a lot of gardening tricks together. Collects a lot of crossbows, but would like to reinvent guns in equestria someday.
>Dirk
Mostly a neet. Reads a lot of comics, started developing his puppet lust in equestria. Goes to skate parks sometimes. Collects swords and hangs them up everywhere in his shit hole of a home.
If he wanted to he could probably become rich, but he's depressed so he mostly just does meaningless "ironic" activities to try and feel better.
Regardless, all of the foals think he's fucking awesome.
He's tried to become friends with dash, but she finds him a little creepy because of the spaghetti he keeps dropping while trying to be cool.

>>41658119
>John immediately becomes a background pony
most accurate one so far

What I never got about homosuck was why Dave and Karkat got together in homolust.
Don't get me wrong I love some boy on boy action it's cute as fuck, but how did it even happen?
I stopped reading when everything 'reset' and we started from the parents perspectives as kids, and before that I was already trailing off.

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>>41658205
Through a literal retcon and Hussie being too afraid to do Dave/Jade.

Bumpstuck

>>41658205
>What I never got about homosuck was why Dave and Karkat got together in homolust.
Because ipgd made Hussie. He literally rewrote the comic to suddenly pair them together.

>>41658741
>ipgd
I'm lost guys, I can only assume that doesn't refer to an effector protein

>>41658014
There's a difference between serious elements in actual serious situations and trying to tell me that Dave's upbringing (which is initially portrayed as joke) is a serious case of child abuse. It's an awful retcon that does not fit the tone of what was presented when it was presented. Comedies can have tragic elements (see: Fry's dog in Futurama) but treating Bro as an child abuser is incredibly tone deaf. The world of Homestuck is incredibly goofy, but we are asked to actually treat this realistically. It's fucking retarded.
>Fuck sake, do you even LIKE the comic man?
This comic has lived in my head rent free every day since I first read it 13 years ago. The first half is my favorite work of fiction ever made. However, why I loved it and what it eventually turned into are two different things. I enjoy the zaniness of early Homestuck and the other MS Paint Adventures. Andrew Hussie sucks horrendously at soap opera tier drama. That's all there is to say on the matter.

>>41658746
She was a Homestuck General user who wormed her way into Hussie's inner circle by sending him a horse dildo. She influenced him to add all the shit that made Homestuck worse, like Davekat, abusive Bro (she wrote an abusive Stridercest fanfic), and Jade's dog penis. She cowrote the Epilogues.

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>>41658781
Jesus christ.

>>41658781
horsefucker dramafags can only dream

I-I liked Davekat...felt like a nice relationship between two people who were starting to soften up after a lifetime of excessively 'proving' their badassness, either through aloof behavior or...well, Karkat being Karkat.

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DaveKat NIGGERS robbed me.

>>41658800
I like Terezi and Karkat too but there's nothing saying they can't be flushed while Dave is pale with him.

>>41658696

Bumpystuck. I wish I could read hoemetuck but it's getting me tired easily and I end up sleeping instead of reading. Also I don't like how they make stuff up in the story that doesn't make sense like all purple bloods being clowns when they weren't supposed to be because of lazy writing

>>41659468
>he didn't even read the comic
The cult of the mirthful messiahs is stated to be obscure in Gamzee's introduction, all purplebloods being clowns is Hiveswapshit.

Homosuck hasn't been relevant for over a decade, kys

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>>41660002
>he says with a straight face on /mlp/

>>41659994
this. The juggalos are this small cult composed primarily of royals, think of it like any freemasonic cult of upper classmen and you're not far off. So it is not mainstream enough for lowbloods to be in it, but it is at least able to be joined by highbloods so inclined, few as they might be.

>>41659994
>>he didn't even read the comic
I watched the hiveswap shit and I did read but mostly when trolls were introduced and I didn't even finish act 5 lmao. I heard act 1-3 isn't for everyone and the acts after 3 are peak Homestuck so I started with act 4 and saw some acts 1-3 on youtube to get a good feel of them but I can't read it fully man. I read more chapters but it feels like random bullshit go go whenever I read it. maybe skipping is bad or something and now I don't get it. But it's hard to understand

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>>41660148
>I started with act 4
Translation:
>I watched a few flashes and read memos but I missed almost every quote the comic calls back to later on and every big reveal

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>>41660148
>I heard act 1-3 isn't for everyone and the acts after 3 are peak Homestuck

>>41660043

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Would genuinely be interested in a fic that has the Mane 6 and/or CMC playing Sburb. Though some exceptions would have to be made since they don't have computers.
I'd be willing to write it but I'm kind of torn whether it'd be a somewhat serious story given the circumstances when playing Sburb and such.

What suggestions do you anons recommend?

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>>41660002
Homestuck also hasn't even been good in a decade.

>>41660376
It would depend upon how closely the lore has to be. If for instance the Elements exist, do they override the Aspects, add onto them, or not matter much? Does every pony still get a planet to explore? Will it be inhabited by heavily gnostic figures like Abraxis, or just general creatures like manticores? What strife methods are available to them - can spearkind and axekind still work or only for unicorns?

>>41660165
Look I know that sounds bad but... I think the story is kinda funny anyway? Haha. I started watching it again And yes sir I'm just reading those memos and everyone is taking with their time travel friends and making money or doing some bullshit that makes no sense sans for me. Maybe when I get to act 5 I will understand this complicated time travel game more... Eventually.
>>41660168
Don't give me that look pinkie

>>41660433
>I know that sounds bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nQn9UkHS4w
It makes narrative sense despite its insanity, but you have to get immersed in it properly. The flashes are entertaining but without real context it's pure spectacle. Learning how time travel works, why dead Daves are the enemy, getting to know the trolls and kids, hell, reading about the Midnight Crew and the Wayward Vagabond/Mayor's companions. That isn't just part of the journey, it's like, the entire adventure of the comic.

>>41659994
God. I also dont like the "mirthful messiah cult is popular among all purple blood" hiveswap shit.
You know what else? The fact they completely abandoned the story plot that purple blood were a displaced ruling class.
This is literally why equius hates sea dwellers.
Literally so many of the cool things started in Homestuck get completely dropped by the writers.
>>41660095
The thing is that purple bloods in the canon (before hiveswap and shit), are a displaced ruling class. They were overthrown by the sea dwellers.
(This is why gamzee is afraid to go near the ocean, the sea dwellers see him as a political threat and are hostile.)
The mirthful messiah cult is told to us explicitly to be an unpopular cult, so it's treated effectively the same way on alternia that our juggalos are treated on earth. I'm guessing this is for similar reasons (gamzee also hints there's a caste equality message in his religion multiple times, likely part of why it's unpopular).
I would say royals are probably *not* that active in it most likely, especially if they're trying to conform to alternian social structure.
Purple bloods make up a good portion probably of the cult, but I imagine they're likely distanced from it for social and political reasons.
>>41660148
Three things
1. Gotta read the whole thing, it's worth it.
2. Make sure if you're reading it you don't use the website. (It sucks ass now). Use the mspa reader. (This is an archived and working version of the original comic, before the changes and some of the censorship).
3. If you really can't read, use the "let's play Homestuck" series on YouTube to help you out.

>>41660376
Id read it, I feel like especially if it was a green or an illustrated CYOA.
This could be really cool too if you involve scratched session with g1 or something.

>>41660538
Yooo...that's a really creative idea. Like utilizing the scratch or other methods of showing alternate universes related to other generations. If you're a G%er, maybe it'd even be a good use of that.

>>41660545
>G%
Oh my God that could also be really cool....yeah you get exactly my thoughts.
Would g% be a null session?
Also, if they do g1 scratched, you could have g1 ponies in the g4 session as ecto-ancestors. I think that could be really cool- like some ancient fyrefly ecto clone in g4 being the ancestor for rainbow dash.

Bumpy

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I need the vriska Starlight fusion....

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>Discord gets prototyped
How fucked is their session?

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>TFW no Anon and /hsg/ Greentext
Dam they would be a funny duo

>>41661428
God. I felt that. Remember the gigapause?? Fug.

>>41661428
Me holding the Monokuma. Though I've actually started reading it for the existence of this thread. Anything I should know? Other than that the later chapters are apparently garbage, but if I watched Season nine I'm sure whatever happens later in Homestuck can't compare.

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>>41661435
I remember thinking the Kickstarter would be good. Surely one man can't squander 2 million dollars

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>>41661444
Your gonna get a worse blue balling then both anon. Worse then Starlight Glimmer and June Ebert. Shit gets stupid. You should Read worm. Worm at least ends well

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The parallels are kind of Startling

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>>41661466
Liberty. Reason. Justice. Civility. Edification. Perfection.

MAIL.

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>>41661472
She even ends up with the defective eye

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>>41661444
>but if I watched Season nine I'm sure whatever happens later in Homestuck can't compare.
h-haha

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Blackrom or Moirails?

>>41661444
Make sure to use the mspareader/archived version of the comic. The website as it currently exists, is shit. You won't get the same experience of reading Homestuck if you use the new website.

>>41661775
Went ahead and found one of them.
https://homestuck.giovanh.com/
Anyone interested in reading the comic, use this. You can change the setting too so you can try as much as possible to recreate the experience of reading it "live" (unfortunately Homestuck currently has no reread parties the way we have rewatch parties, so at this era of time we can't recreate the sensation of "upd8" cultures yet. )

homestuck more like homesuck

>>41660533
>The fact they completely abandoned the story plot that purple blood were a displaced ruling class.
I know I'm probably not right about this but maybe when the train exploded in hiveswap part 2 it could be because of an assassin or something but that would be too complex for liberals to have a story that focuses on stuff like that. they would need to write a whole war Homestuck style but hive swap probably isn't like that

>>41660533
>1. Gotta read the whole thing, it's worth it
Maybe I will. I just know that in acts 2 they're going some goofy stuff and I know Dave has a brother who likes puppets and John has a sillydex and I don't know what the human females are about but they're just doing stuff too and then they started playing the game and the story starts. I'm probably not missing out that much by not 100% reading the first acts but I will watch them on read Homestuck when I feel like I need to. I don't really feel like someone who would skip jjba parts so maybe I'm not skipping that much and just trying to enjoy this ridiculous story

>>41661593
Moirails, 10000000%. Rarity would absolutely be diamonds for sollux because the man has no fashion.

>>41661407
>flutterjade
Dear god...

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>>41661407
Should be John/Pinkie, Dave/Fluttershy, Jade/Applejack, Rose/Rarity

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>Leave Discord to me bros

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>>41657666

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She's kind of the original Flawless moon if you think about it......

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>wwalks into thread

>>41663296
fag

>>41663296
unironically eridan redemption arc when

>>41663299
>unironically eridan redemption arc when
Who of the main six would he inevitably get with after he's been turned into a pony and had his redemption arc

>>41663382
Damn, that's a hard one
I like to think Twilight, just because of the obvious
>introversion, trouble making friends
>muh magic
>it might be humbling to make friends with all her friends

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>>41663384
>Ends up with another Princess
Yeah Eridan won in the end

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>>41663296
>>41663384
>>41663393
>fuck off eriidan you 2tupiid faggot ii'm the only one allowed two cum iin2iide twiiliight 2parkle, you are 2uch a retarded faggot iim now a fake png

>>41663542
>biggest tryhard badass can't fathom why Eridan being with Twilight might make sense
That tracks. Get out of here tholluxth

>>41663542
of course a fuckin landdwwellin assblood wwould savve a fake png

>>41656957
boop

John's father has a Anon-esque model.