How does the current derpi import scripts work? Do they grab the image quickly but delay the tags?

Twibooru has been 5xxing all day.

>>41706947
>Furbooru has been 41%ing all day
oh no!, anyways...

Finally its back.

Any progress news on the foalfetch website ?

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>site development

>>41706947
Did Floorb forget to pay for the server yet again?
>>41706957
>Furbooru
Nice projection derpimod. As long as Cockless is a mod it's not going to happen.

>>41706086
which one?
>>41706947
Codemonkey is asleep, so you're waiting with the rest of us.
>>41706969
I'll ask him about it when he wakes up, assuming he doesn't see the thread. And bitch at him to renew the cert.
>>41707229
i had a chuckle
>>41706083
Hey, when you make one of these, make some attempt to get up to date and to update the Developments section, yeah?

>>41706086
None of them delay metadata separately from delaying grabbing the image itself. If it gets deleted on Derpi faster than it gets grabbed by import scripts, it does not get imported.

>>41707710
>If it gets deleted on Derpi faster
This was the exact reason why I was asking.

>>41706086
Here is one such import script:
https://gitgud.io/mys_elf/Imp

You can also use it to scrape images locally as well.

if you host/run derpibooru, do you need a dedicated sysadmin to kick shit when it goes down? I'm willing to volunteer

>>41708459
ponybooru* brain no work this afternoon

Has anyone eve tried making a favorites importer feature ?
Basically something that would allow an user in a new booru to build a copy of the favorites gallery he had in another booru.

>10

What is everypony working on?

>>41710318
Heated cat house.

Hello Lotus, what's the status of automatic tag re-import from Derpibooru?
Many imported images are missing tags like:
3d, anthro, equestria girls, humanized, ai content
While on derpibooru they have those tags just fine as of right now. Even if you or users don't want a full re-import, maybe whitelist of tags to be added (not removed) on import would be a compromise? Tags like mentioned above and stuff like diapers, foot fetish, morbidly obese, etc.

>>41709394

>>41711425
Jesus guys, is there nothing at all to talk about after all this time ?

>Derpi has banned AI art entirely
How does this make you feel?

>>41712531
>another shithole to import from, staffed by the same retards, just because they mald over NHPs being creative
fffffffan fucking tastic

Okay haven't been following this at all
Who won
Who's best booru

>>41712531
They are still allowing ai assisted art.

>>41712531
If you read it, they're still allowing AI assisted and AI voice stuff. What they're purging is all the pure prompt garbage that going by a post has been eating up a lot of staff time taking care of problems related to like people doing impersonations and going way over upload limits.

>>41712531
One more reason to ditch derpi.
I just got banned because I did not upload futa anal diaper gay rape AI gen image, but a cute zipp.

>>41712531
>ai generated images will start being removed after [January 6 2025]
Derpitards are braindead as always. So favorites, upvotes, etc all goes into the drain.

>>41712796
Do they plan to implement any favorites transfer tool for the tantabus alternative?
>>41708711

>>41712803
No they don't. I don't even understand why did they even bothered setting up a different booru. They did not set one up for loli or aryne or whatever else they ban.

>>41712882
Wait nevermind I just searched it wrong

Hang on, there is something wrong with their tantabus importer.
Its replacing the underscore in some of the tags and creating two different galleries for the same tag.

Searching "lost_conn":
https://tantabus.ai/search?q=prompter%3Alost_conn
Searching "lost conn":
https://tantabus.ai/search?q=prompter%3Alost+conn

There isnt even a "lost conn" in derpi so I dont get where that tag came from.

>>41712531
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

>>41712796
As if you didn't throw a tantrum over your slop being rate limited on uploads per day.

>>41712531
>comment deleted for rule #6

>>41712560
>Who won
Derpibooru
>Who's best booru
Trixiebooru

>>41713035
Limiting new content and enforcing the rule in a retard way is one thing.
Removing content on the other hand is a completely different thing. What will be the next thing they nuke completely from the site? Because this will set an example. Whatever content they don't like they will just nuke retroactively.

>>41713048
AIslop was a pollution, it's being cleaned up. You can pretend you don't care about derpi but stamped your feet to have a right to dump slop exponentially and pissed off the whole community with your artist copycat Loras to get free coms and free exposure to grift. Now you get nothing, this is what you get for being such a scumbag.
Forever reminder that every aiproompter will never be white

>>41713060
weewoo

>>41713066
Did your brain short circuit already? Better prooompt a reply. But nobody will miss you. You were never part of the art community, just a parasite and a discord tranny invader.

>>41713048
>Whatever content they don't like they will just nuke retroactively.
Haven't you gotten the notice back in 2020?

>>41713078
weewoo weewoo
Can't wait to laugh when you piss off the actual AI.

>>41712803
>>41712827
Wait they suggested something for that
https://derpibooru.org/forums/meta/topics/policy-update-regarding-ai-content?post_id=5680467#post_5680467

>>41713129
>to promote people using AI to use it as part of their toolset to create new original works, put their own efforts into what they create instead of just “hope the RNG is good this time”.
And how is this bad, xir?

>>41713162
>xir
You know exactly why.

>>41713168
So you literally cant even with non replies. Kek. Aitrannies had this coming a long time ago.

>noooo control by my side GOOD
Yawn.

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>Fuck around
>Find out
Better luck next community. There's the door.

LightningBolt, have you tried not being obvious for once, or is your brain just that rotted out?
>>41713145
Only works for the next two weeks, and assumes they don't start mass purging early. They will, obviously, and probably have started already from the lowest viewcount going up.
>>41712720
>anti-replication rule
forgot they made that. this is entirely their own fault that there's even a problem in the first place.

>>41713211
Do they plan to deal with this >>41712998 before having to reindex again ?

>>41713229
prolly not, they're (almost) all of the bent you just saw show up in the thread, so expecting them to give two shits is one shit too many to expect.

>>41713235
>Everyone who mocks me being a subhuman is from derpi.

>>41713239
>I was compared to derpimods, that means he thinks i am one!
sneed

>>41713241
>LightningBolt, have you tried not being obvious for once
>not, they're (almost) all of the bent you just saw show up in the thread
>weewoo weewoo (dogwhistle for derpibooru)

>>41713249
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
meds?

>>41712998
>tantabus.ai
...Did they steal the name from Zizzy's non-pony archive, lol?

>>41712998
>No one gave a shit when I posted about this in both boorus
I dont get it, tons of users on the forums complaining about the idea but none of them caring about the already broken implementation ?

>>41706969
Been super busy with RL stuff lately.
>>41707229
No, our frontend proxy/cache host was having abysmal network performance. By the time I was able to look into it, it fixed itself.
>>41707710
The Twibooru importer does cache images and metadata on upload, but nothing is actually done with the cache, other than the fact that I occasionally purge data from it for images that were successfully imported.

Question for the masses: Should Twibooru import from Tantabus too?

>>41713722
>should Twibooru import pony content
this should not be a question that needs asked, you literal faggot

>>41713730
There's a philosophical aspect to it too. If someone made a site that generated one AI pony image per second, should Twibooru import that too?

>>41713734
The only reason i say 'no' is purely physical constraints of software/hardware.
If it was a pure philosophical question, then yeah, assuming that it was actually pony and not some furnigger slop or incomprehensible like a visual version of the average sharty post.

>>41713734
>>41713739
So the concern is that the new AI site might not have any quality control ?

>>41713743
Given they're sending either niggerfaggots (literal), people who don't want to be there, people that are there for CONTROL, or people that are busy with other projects, yeah, definitely going to have a quality control problem.
I also don't believe them when they say that it's not beholden to the Furpibooru revenue stream, same as i don't believe that Furpibooru's component parts are separate, so there may be deliberate sabotage on top of that.
But besides the implications for importing that those two parts would imply, the main problem would be the delay on importing and what tags to ignore.
Might have to be made an approval queue.

>>41712998
They seem to have fixed this by making aliases, at least on the examples I had.

>>41713753
Well they did say that ai assisted art will remain, which might be their attempt at keeping the good prompters on derpi. Which honestly only lowers the expectation on the new site if they even decided to separate the wheat from the chaff before sending the "rest" to that site.

>>41713771
They were already culling prompters with obvious flaws (for their definitions of them, anyways), this only tightens the noose to those that use AI as a equal or minor component in their work.

AI images are not that different from the show screencaps, animation frames or pony creator OCs. If you can handle those, you can handle AI just fine.

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>>41713753
Cope.

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>>41713773
If they wanted it gone they could have sent all of it to the other site.
But maybe the AI public is so big that they instead went for this approach of finding in any possible exception that could exclude an image from the slop category.

>>41713804
>>41713821
Sorry, i expected reading comprehension, that was referring to the staff list.

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>>41713826
>Make a new thread OP with tantabus as an ai alternative booru
>Cry about it.

>>41713831
Do you have anything productive for the boorus, or are you going to continue generating infinite shit-stirring to try and get the thread purged?

>>41713837
>If you don't toe the discord line then you're trying to get the thread scruffed.
Holy HRT, why are aifaggets always such snowflakes? Go back where you came from if you're this thin skinned.

>>41713848
Purge, got it.
Who are you who do not know your history?

>>41713851
Dumb thirdie doesn't know what words he reads mean. The alt boorus are managed worse than the originals, take your Ls

This could be a good reason to reopen the AI art general.

https://youtu.be/Tj_RphBpwiw

>>41713862
Good god do you faggots even interact with the board at all?

>>41713864
>Regulated
Him and millions of other retards will keep preaching this until the whole technology gets "regulated" into becoming a big corp monopoly.

>>41713874
Oh my bad, I didnt even see the black celestia.

>>41713875
Regulation will come alright, when it comes in the form of digital biometric ID because sloppers are subhumans who brought us to the gates of dystopia you will have to proove you're real and it will be your fault.

Back to /pol/.

>>41713779
>AI images are not that different from the show screencaps, animation frames or pony creator OCs. If you can handle those, you can handle AI just fine.
I do think they are different from show screencaps and animation frames. Pony creator OCs would be a closer comparison if generation was completely randomized. The thing is, with AI, you can always generate more. It is infinite. It doesn't take any time and you can do it as much as you want. So to a certain extent, I sort of feel like any particular AI generation inherently doesn't have as much value because it's not like it's any different from any other generation. It's like comparing one dollar bill to another. It's functionally the same, so generally speaking it's not all that worth while to hold onto one vs another. Screencaps and animation frames may be numerous, but they are still very much limited, and their content relatively more unique. Which I feel provides more value because you can't just generate more of them at command. You're stuck with what you got, so it makes sense to organize them to be able to find the one you're looking for.

I've seen a few neat AI images on the booru, but overall it generally does feel a lot like spam. Similar to someone uploading millions of randomized Pony Creator OCs. And because of that I don't necessarily disagree with rejecting the vast majority of AI images. Unless the particular generation somehow has some additional value attached to it. If you were to allow AI generations on a booru I think you would need to implement some sort of limit or restriction just to cut down on the sheer quantity of potential uploads. And I'm not sure that there could be a way that isn't entirely subjective of determining which AI generations make it up vs another, again because they're in a way interchangeable.

Just some thoughts. I am not against the existence of AI art, but I do have mixed feelings about it on the boorus.

>>41713903
Post beak.

>>41713948
All boorus already have "don't abuse site functionality" rule...

>>41713994
We are in early days of the problem. My point being that, at what point does it become more reasonable for your query (prompt) to generate an entirely new set of results each time you search vs storing and tagging all possible pixels combinations that can come out of the AI?

>>41713864
>shitting on 4chan in the first two minutes
Dropped. This is normie shit.

>>41713779
According to the thread the issue is rather moderation. Official screens are more or less guaranteed to be unproblematic in terms of quality control and content violations. Pony Creator OCs are closer, but people aren't uploading so many of them that it's a burden. Otherwise they'd probably ban them too.

>>41713994
Isn't that kind of what the new rule is doing though? They've continually been adjusting the effort floor for uploads. With AI that floor has been lowered.

>>41713722
>Question for the masses: Should Twibooru import from Tantabus too?
No. Archive the actual generator AIs, not the ENDLESS SLOP they can churn out. >>41713948 Specifically because it's endless.

If you don't have several people willing to act as quality control (no, derpistaff are not QC) and pluck the rare gems from the torrential flood of shit, none of it should be archived. The rare worthwhile images are an acceptable sacrifice to not have your storage and network capacity occupied by the rest.

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Can someone make a browser extension or something to meld the two "back" together so I don't have to check two websites now? Sure, this decision makes their jannies' lives easier, at the cost of yet more fragmentation for the users.

Before they nuke the ai stuff, will ponerpics archive the upvotes? Thats valuable.

>>41713722
>autoimport
If people actually start using it and not just spam it with extremely low quality stuff.
Because I bet their endgoal is to spam it with shit, "get surprised" that no one is using the site, then shut it down.

>>41713722
Have you found a job?

Ponepaste seems to be dead, not responding for a few hours now.

>>41714551
>upvotes are valuable
Ok reddit.

>>41714967
Hopefully it’s back soon

Twibooru stuck

>>41715255
FLOORB STUCK
FLOORB STUCK
it should be fixed now
>>41714967
ditto
>>41714756
Working on it

>>41713722
Yes if it becomes popular.

To compromise between quality control and preservation, introduce "status:deleted" from danbooru as a transparent wall of shame for when stuff doesn't break any rules except for being garbage unworthy of being displayed through the site's default search filters.

>>41712531
as an artist myself, and opponent of machine learning, their take is retarded, they are retarded, and deeper retards will applause them.
banning AI generated will NOT do anything against AI scraping. This is the main concern of artists.
banning AI art will force AI gens to be more innovating in hiding and sneaking AI content.
banning AI art WILL HELP AI offering derpibooru to data harvesters who will assume to date no content will be generatrf and that's attractive to prevent machine learning poisoning.

one more thing, I have been accused of using AI by retards despite now I got to keep WIPs and sketches as proof like they don't check any older art. Who decides? an expert? an AI?

Altboorus should not follow this, tag Ai art properly, not traditional, and detect/ban obvious crawlers if you want to prevent AI art and do something effective against it.

>>41716492
Does that mean the way to protect your real art is to tag everything you make as "machine learning generated"?

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>>41716497
yes. that sounds retarded but yes. suggest it was done with help of AI.
wanna poison machine learning, aka the reason no animal normally won't eat its own caca, aislop fags at least know they should not train on machine generated content, it generates noise or nonsense, god knows why, even themselves barely understand why, there's patterns that are done only by AI and will "confuse" the process.

also do I have to point out mot of the staff loves AI, they even have a ai generated section for it on derpi's discord, and some even are on purplesmart so they are only claiming to do something about machine learning or against AI art to look nice to artists, while doing the opposite and they do it on purpose.
or else they really are retarded.

>>41716551
or they're telling the truth and it's about getting rid of the 80% slop that idiots who can't follow basic rules keep uploading

>>41716551
And, conversely, strip the "this is AI garbage" tags from the actual generated images.
We'll have humans running around pretending to be AI, and AI running around pretending to be humans.
Make The Internet Ridiculous Again! HONK-HONK!

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>>41716597
Does it applies for a monthly gigabyte of badly drawn feet porn and other crap from elsagate brainrotten teens - no.

>>41716645
There's already LOT of ai generated crap that is being not tagged as AI. There's AIsloppers selling crap as legit commissions, on Insta, tiktok, Facebook, Telegram or Twitter. Morons pays for 1024x1024 ad up these on Derpi. This is just a redflag,but this is none of my business. Derpiborru is managed by absolute morons who think they are smart, doing it for the popular vibe.
Mods know this and will just ignore it.

>>41716551
>aka the reason no animal normally won't eat its own caca
>retarded ESL does not know biology either
Dogs, rabbits, deer, and that's just what I can name off-hand.

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>>41716745
No I'm not English and be satisfied with my effort on it. But are you malformed not to comprehend my analogy here? Eating shit is not normal and will never be.

>>41716492
>opponent of machine learning
Unless you use 2002-era creator software, I have bad news for you, buddy.

>>41716860
What are you. You don't know anything about art software or art. Shut the fuck up, nigger.

>ITT: ESL neo-luddite tries the subcontinental gambit

>>41717131
if the art is passing as art that is not my problem

>>41717142
>nooo how dare you not share my opinion, you must make AI!

>>41717149
I accept your concession.

>>41716860
>>41717078
>>41717144
>>41717156

Are you seriously expecting to be respected here? You defend AI on a thread for art. KYS.

>>41717158
>is pony
yes
>is not obvious infinite slop or an mspaint stickfig without good reason
no
>keep
yes
this is all that needs to be done, storage concerns notwithstanding.
You should have just filtered, Anon.

>>41717158
False dichotomy. Personally I get annoyed when Google Image Search is contaminated by AI art, and AI art is filtered by me in boorus by default. Personally I think "AI-art" is eerily similar to "MTL". A person who claims to be a "MTL-translator" is an oxymoron: when MTL is shit, polishing the shit won't make it not shit. When MTL is perfect (in the next century, kek), then "MTL-translator" middleman person is redundant. I think using AI to generate static pictures is a waste, similar to creating a whole scenery and characters in 3D and then just sharing 2D render of it. If it's 3D, let us be inside this world, interactively, don't waste everyone's time by showing pictures of it. Similarly AI should be used to generate content dynamically and interactively. Infinite Craft got the right idea, but it's just a piece of the puzzle.
But here's another viewpoint: there's a camp of people who think that art is about effort and skill, and there's other people who think that art is about vision and message. For the second group literally anything can be art. Banana taped on the wall? Art. 4 minutes 33 second of silence? Art. A black square? Art. By that criteria unedited AI pictures also can be art, if artist is that good. But just like a teen drawing a red circle is naive in thinking that it would be sold for million dollars, most AI artists won't be renowned, either.
Overall, sharing AI is just people going "neat, let's show it to other people". It's harmless. It's similar to people sharing funny comics from a random pony comic generator: https://flashmuseum.org/pony-comic-generator/ . Just filter it if you don't like it.

>>41717186
Tldr after the first sentence.

Unlike google search results, you can filter on the boorus efficiently.

>>41717339
tl;dr is the last sentence

>>41717186
>when Google Image Search is contaminated by AI art
I'd rather that than the usual, which is when it's contaminated by product pages for stickers of the image I'm looking for

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what exactly classifies as "not pony related" on twibooru?

>>41718268
Let me guess, Boxless did something again?

>>41717186
>AI
>artist
choose one, retard. AI is just as cancerous as the previous corporate memphis trend and is already on decline due to boredom.

>>41719020
>and is already on decline due to boredom.
Then it is a non-problem

>>41707229
You mean the mod that decided "yeah, anthro pokemon count as pony art because applejack's hat is there"?
>derpi bans aislop not for being slop, but for fake moral reasons from artistroons who wouldn't draw at all if they weren't paid for it because they're not fucking artists they're MONEY GRUBBING WHORES
>>41718268
Anything that mod doesn't like. So logically following what is and isn't allowed, humanized versions of ponies (young) aren't pony, but BBW scolipedes are pony. I wonder if he's going to send a twibooru DM to a user over comments on this thread again.

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I'm guessing we're not ready to have a conversation about if the alt boorus should prune their AI art too.

>>41718268
It's actually never been agreed upon what counts, so it's up to the mod's discretion past a certain point. Kind of a nightmare to go through stuff actually, or at least it would be if there weren't a thousand other problems to sort through that get higher priority.

From least to most removed from pony:
>Screenshots of the show
>vectorized items from the show
>fanart of the show of the unaltered characters
>fan characters that have identifiable MLP provenance, such as cutie marks
>fanart that significantly alters canon characters, such as by turning them into humans (that leaves them recognizable as MLP characters)
>fanart that significantly alters common fandom OCs, such as aryanne or milky way

The above section is all stuff that instantly passes the smell test, aka someone lightly familiar with the franchise can instantly tell it's MLP related. Common sense stuff that isn't really open to debate. What follows is much murkier, and unfortunately devolves quickly into a feelings-based judgement call from the admins as to whether it's allowed to stay or not, with really being able to concretely say why.

>creature characters without identifiable MLP provenance
This really badly affects griffons and deer in particular. If it's show accurate, fine, but otherwise good luck making an argument that it should stay. (Kirin and changelings are much less affected due to having distinct designs)
>"show accurate" art without MLP provenance
i didn't see anybody complain that the eqg style stuff was deleted, so I guess it's agreed it's not pony related
>fan characters divorced from their MLP origins
This is a problem only Derpibooru has. Apparently if you upload a critical mass of pony OC images, you're allowed to continue uploading that OC even if you remove all identifiable pony stuff from it, and have publicly left the fandom
>fanart that significantly alters an OC character, to the point they lack identifiable MLP provenance such as by turning them into humans
This is what got Boxless into trouble. Which is continually hilarious to me, because she didn't actually pull the trigger. Come on guys, the mod log is public, there's no excuse It's the treachery of images: you're showing me a cartoon woman and saying it's pony related. It's a purely emotional argument.

tl;dr Don't make the mods bear the burden of solving the sorites paradox and put something identifiable from MLP in it. Please, put cutie marks or wings on those cartoon women. Don't tell me it wouldn't be hotter anyway.

And of course, no matter what the mods do, there's going to be people like >>41719129 angry at the choice. They're either too lax and let too much through, or too punitive and delete the stuff people like.

>>41719185
>This is what got Boxless into trouble. Which is continually hilarious to me, because she didn't actually pull the trigger.
>she
kek

>>41718268
https://twibooru.org/pages/rules
>canon characters that aren't recognizable as canon
>OC characters that aren't recognizable as pony species
>deer (except for 3 canon deer designs), even show accurate ones
>exploitable memes with nonpony content in the exploitable
So
>"californians who robbed a cosplay store" art like "the grand galloping 20s"
>all the lolis and wolves that claim they're totes same character honest it must stay its totally not an attempt to subvert your standards and trample boundaries
>99% of deer because nobody uses those designs
>99% of new exploitable memes
Note that "having a tiny pony as part of the nonpony-focused image" like https://twibooru.org/1752119 isn't on the list.
>>41719185
>This is what got Boxless into trouble. Which is continually hilarious to me, because she didn't actually pull the trigger.
>she
kek

>>41719185
>This is a problem only Derpibooru has. Apparently if you upload a critical mass of pony OC images, you're allowed to continue uploading that OC even if you remove all identifiable pony stuff from it, and have publicly left the fandom
>he doesn't know
https://ponerpics.org/search?q=furry%2Csolo%2C%21tf%2Coc
803 images
https://derpibooru.org/search?q=furry%2Csolo%2C%21tf%2Coc
408 images
https://twibooru.org/search?q=furry%2Csolo%2C!tf%2Coc
289 images at the time of this post

>>41719263
https://ponybooru.org/search?q=furry%2Csolo%2C!tf%2Coc
444 images

>>41719263
In case of poner I'm guessing it's because mods don't give a shit as usual.
They won't even properly tag anthrocancer and other types of nohooves. Yes, I added cancer to my filters just so I would keep seeing it.

>>41719387
Just do it yourself bro. Just use the bulk tag change script bro. No I won't do it bro. No the rest of the site staff with site-code bulk changer won't do it bro. Figure the tags out and do it yourself bro.
No I won't ban the mass-undertagged-image uploaders bro.

>>41719185
>tl;dr Don't make the mods bear the burden of solving the sorites paradox and put something identifiable from MLP in it. Please, put cutie marks or wings on those cartoon women.
honestly this. at least make an effort to match the colors instead of eyeballing it.
>>41719263
ponerpics are lazy furniggers, this is known information

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>>41719185
If EQG and humanized are pony related, doing the same thing to pony ocs is pony related. It's demonstrable that cockless in particular has been all over nuking humanized versions of Dyx et. al. yet is all over defending some very badly drawn bbw scolipedes. It's a very relevant example. Don't do stupid shit and defend it, and you (rhetorical, gotta specify because I'm all too aware people need shit on the level of reddit putting "/s" next to sarcastic statements to comprehend anything they read because observing context clues isn't taught in schools anymore) don't get swarmed with shit. ezpz
Ponytube so far avoids any moderation drama because it's cut and dry and the moderation knows what belongs there and doesn't. Some faggot's bluey video or let's play of some random game? Gone. Pony content, even if it's that godawful subgenre of anthro sfm where it's the pony head and tail put on a generic recolored human female body? It's pony, so such cancer is still allowed. You won't be seeing videos of bbw anthro scolipedes being kept there.

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>>41720231
>if one degree of separation is allowed, then two degrees of separation must also be allowed, you BIGOT CHUD
This is you.

>>41720306
Disingenuous cunt. What I advocate is an equal treatment of ocs and show characters: real (pony) form and humanized/eqg. Only a disingenuous cunt can take that and spin it as "um ackshually that would allow anthro cows and wolves and loona from helluva boss and tamers' non-pony videos and and andandnadnlnfasdfn" while deliberately ignoring how the pokemon were called out as things that should not be allowed.

>>41720329
Calling people's names won't change the fact that you're trying to do exact same thing that furfag's doing. Just with "ITS A PONY TRANSFORMED TO HUMAN LOLI" instead of "ITS A PONY TRANSFORMED TO WOLF ANTHRO".

>>41712531
What a bunch of niggers. One more reason not to use this garbage site.

>>41713060
>AIslop was a pollution
Depends, I like AI stuff because it makes all the overpriced artists seethe.

>>41720343
>STILL trying this
Humanized/eqg for show characters is considered okay. Ergo, the same should apply to fandom characters. Wolf/deer/dog/etc. versions of show characters should not be allowed, ergo the same should apply to fandom characters.
Having such a clearly defined set of info and still trying to pretend like something else entirely is being demanded is the definition of disingenuous.

>>41720388
Define "Overpriced" without sounding poor and bitter.

>>41720420
>Ergo, the same should apply to fandom characters.
Does not follow.

>>41720424
>Define "Overpriced"
More that zero. An art should not have a price, an act of creation should be the goal in itself. Else it becomes mere craft. Or 'slop' if you would like.

>>41720715
There's nothing wrong with commissioning artists. However, the way the most popular clopmancers have made their comms into gaytreon lotteries has rather detracted from the "patronizing the arts" thing.

>>41721397
"You pay the money, you can look at the result once, but you don't actually own it, don't dare to repost it or use it in own projects. When I decide to quit, I'll take down and purge all the art, including ones you commissioned" attitude is surprisingly common among the artists.

>>41720424
You're not worth one fucking dime.

>>41720715
I'll never forget the hypocrisy of the aijew who pays for 1000+ videocards and generates commissions with loras.

>>41722145
but that's based.

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>>41722145
I know one like that, generally they are furries without talent who need money for HRT and other crap. ZealousMagician or someone even made a GUIDE to scam people, saying 'yes AI costs money you can rent a rendering server but it's worth it"
Faggot is a good friend of Derpi staff btw

>>41722125
What's stopping you from comming these pricks, uploading the results, and then filing a chargeback when they get uppity?

>>41722133
that's exactly what I told your mother last night.

>>41720621
It does if your IQ is greater than 70. Sorry to hear about your diagnosis.

Up.

Are mares good programmers?

>>41724977
>Calling people's names won't change the fact that you're trying to do exact same thing that furfag's doing.
The only difference is you wank it to lolis and he wanks it to wolves.

This whole argument would've been avoided if Twibooru's administration could give a clear-cut answer as to what OCs are pony enough to get a pass on rule 2.

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>>41713831
Tantabus is operated by Derpi staff and the admin is literally TSP just like Furbooru. You don't wanna see this in the "alternatives". TSP is an active shill of AIslop and most of the staff are very close with PurplesmartAI's.

>>41712531
Let's be honest. This decision appears to be less about opposition to AI itself and more about creating a new issue to exploit for public approval, particularly to appease artists who are critical of AI. Meanwhile, some members of the Derpibooru staff are involved with Tantabus which has been around since 2022. IMHO, the ban might have been a calculated move sonce the early AIslop things like this pony does not exist.
Moreover, Derpibooru has never implemented measures to protect artists’ work from AI scraping. For example, they could use fake tags or similar methods to shield artwork from being used by AI generators like Purplemmart, and many more tricks like limiting the http requests that seems automated, but they have not taken such steps. This is showing their sheer hipocrisy while presenting themselves as champions of artists’ rights, TSP is making decisions primarily for appearances and to align with prevailing sentiment against AI just like everytime there is something they can do. and it's their hobby, fabricating "problems" to position themselves as heroes in the eyes of the community. Foalcon, Aryanne, hateful things. TSP and staff have now adopted the cool "Anti AI" vibe to fit the current narrative and nothing else. They don't give a fuck about artists. They will bully, harrass or ban any artist or attack them as soon they draw anything they don't like, like they always done.

>>41726949
>the admin is literally TSP
Fake news. https://tantabus.ai/profiles/Teaspoon

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>artists

>".svg available"
>svg is not available
Why?

>>41727715
Because. What booru and image?

>>41727551
It's simple. They see excellence and they fear it.

>>41712531
>Aijeets are being forced to use the toilet instead of shitting in the street
kek

>>41727004
>second paragraph onwards
What is this shizo babble? Looks like Anons need to work harder on gatekeeping in order to filter out people like this.

>>41727550
>https://tantabus.ai/profiles/Teaspoon
What about the rest of the staff ...

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>Tantabus
>ESL staff
It's starting well... Some are from Germany right?

>>41727715
I'm assuming it's Twibooru. Basically, it has to do with SVGs generated with Inkscape, because Inkscape decided to violate the standard and do whatever, meaning you need proprietary code to render Inkscape PNGs into SVGs and Bored doesn't want to do that.

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>TSP declares himself a defender of artists larping as ANTI AI
>also TSP
https://tantabus.ai/tags/prompter-colon-teaspoon

>>41729557
>TSP declares himself a defender of artists larping as ANTI AI
On where, Twitter? The thread about AI with him posting he's been publicly pro-AI and the posts in the banner thread look like it's just an anti-slop rule
https://derpibooru.org/posts?pq=topic_id%3A31771%2C+author%3AThe+Smiling+Pony https://derpibooru.org/posts?pq=topic_id%3A33926%2C+author%3AThe+Frowning+Pony
>https://tantabus.ai/tags/prompter-colon-teaspoon
>immediately flashbanged on registering
cool

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>>41729635
See
>>41726949
Confirmed, TSP is only doing this to please artists AND centralize AIslop. Derpi is now a clean site for AI users to train their LoRAs on.

>>41729377
Why are you posting this discord tranny's cap?

Is Twibooru down for everyone?

>>41730555
yes

>>41730571
wtf still down? where's floorb?

>>41730807
asleep probably

>>41730812
i dont really follow the meta that closely is this a normal occurance?

>>41730815
Troonbooru constantly acks, yes newfag.

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>>41730807
floorb ded
wat nou

>>41730883
F

Whoever is able to on ponerpics, update the tag mergers please.

>>41730883
Retvrn to derpi

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less aijeets crying about derpi not allowing generative spam
more making twibooru not go down more often than kemono's paymetons importer

>>41730988
Fuck off.

>>41730988
>come home white man
dubs confirm

>>41730883
Guys. I fucked up big time. If this situation had another outcome, your post would have been way fucking funnier in the long run.
I'll try to keep it short. I was working on repairing a tube amp a friend of mine lent me. It's been a good while since I've worked on shit like this. And I made a boneheaded move. I grabbed the chassis with one hand and touched one of the tubes with another. What I can only assume to be capacitive coupling caused current to flow through me, straight across my chest, through my heart. I called 911 and they sent the amber lamps. They said my heart had an abnormal rhythm that was a precursor to heart attack which is a precursor to death, and advised I take a ride in the wee woo wagon to the hospital. That shit took up most of the rest of my day. I'm stable now, but they are advising I use an at-home/body-worn heart monitor for the next little while.
Love yall.

>>41732155
God fucking nigger tranny kike damn fucking shit I forgot the trip now nobody will believe this is real.

>>41732155
>>41732157
you dumb fucking nigger leaf faggot retard

>>41706083
>rainbooru.org still in the copy pasta
Guys it's been dead for months and it ain't coming back. Why's it still part of the OP?

>>41713722
Obviously you import it to Twibooru. It's pony content.

>>41729911
JFC I was about to say >replace Rainbooru with Tantabus but this kind of confirms that.

>>41732155
>>41732157
Damn, glad you didn't die. Be careful with tube amps ^:)

>>41727715
".svg available" means it is available for download at source, Anon. Image itself is a bitmap (png/jpg). It's similar to ".ai available" tag, for Illustrator vector files. For actual .svg images tag is just "svg".
>>41732203
>rainbooru.org still in the copy pasta
>Guys it's been dead for months and it ain't coming back. Why's it still part of the OP?
Do you have an actual confirmation, or it's just your useless speculation?

>>41732725
Go to rainbooru.org and see for yourself how totally not dead it is.
>>41732157
Does Twifag have full access to the twibooru server and stuff in case you suddenly die one day? What about ponepaste and foalfetch?

Would an automatically tagged database for all greentexts ever written be of use to people? Thinking of building it.

>>41732902
Twifag has access to both the server and the hosting company account. I've been trying to write better documentation for future sysadmins, but I've been falling behind on it. As for PonePaste, the code is open source and there are daily dumps of the content. FoalFetch is also open source, and once we have content there other than just the data from Fimfarchive, it will be also available as a daily dump.
On top of that, my husband knows the location of decryption keys for an encrypted archive I have stored somewhere he also knows the location of, which consists of all my passwords (for my password manager, and stuff isn't there,) all my private keys, and contact information for people who know me and my projects really well and would know how to proceed on my behalf.

>>41732903
Yes, it would be huge

>>41732919
This is reassuring. Stay safe /)
>my husband
...
I already forgot that you're unironically gay. I'll pray to Celestia this evening for you to not succumb to sin any further and become a tranny. Please don't become a tranny.

>>41733003
>Anon is surprised that Anon is a faggot

>>41732155
>>41732157
>Aishart supporter is a mental retard
pottery

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>>41733003
Be happy for Floorb, she finally found her human husbando.

>>41732919
if you die and they end up all dumped in my lap i'm going to raise you from the dead

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>>41706083
>>41732903
https://www.horsewords.org/
Here it is: >horsewords. It's a modern take on story archival, designed to make greentext collections readable and searchable. The goal is to archive every single greentext story ever written, both in the past and in the future. I built it over the weekend as part of a self-imposed coding challenge.
The tagging system automatically identifies characters, genres, themes, and writing style, so ultimately you should easily be able to query things like "all Fluttershy stories" or "only porn stories". I only let the tagging script run for a few hours last night, so the whole database isn't tagged yet (and there are a lot more tags that I could be using), but it's a proof of concept of what could be possible.
Any thoughts, comments, etc. would be very helpful. I'll be fixing up a lot of bugs and implementing QoL features.

>>41734329
Right now, only stories from poneb.in are on the website, but I'm planning to add the stories from ponepaste soon. Also planning to have an automatic desuarchive scraper that adds greentext stories live.

>>41734329
>automatic tagging system
Impressive. How does it work, is it AI?

>>41734475
Yes it truncates every story down to ~3,000 tokens, and then tags it. It costs about ~$50 to tag around 3000 stories. I'll eventually get every greentext tagged, but I do want input on what kind of tags I should use so that I can save time.

>>41734329
looks great!

>>41734329
Will Anons have the ability to add/edit tags on stories?

>>41734512
Would you like to be able to do so? I could use some help tagging if people are willing.

>>41734515
It would be nice. The AI tags are a great start, but they really do leave a lot to be desired. Nothing yet has came close to the old Pastebin search in terms of finding what you're looking for. Though they just did a content search.

>>41734329
already looks much better then ponepaste ngl

>>41734329
>Tags aren't searchable
Worthless.

>>41734338
How do you deal with duplicates then? There are a couple of stories on Poneb.in that are out of date because the authors have added more chapters over time. How do you discern which ones are up to date and such?

>>41734811
Yes they are?

>>41734811
Tags are searchable, so not sure what you mean. Try typing in "Twilight Sparkle" and then press tab.

>>41734854
I clicked on a tag like a booru and all it did was bring me to the text as if I clicked on it instead. This is a shitgrade version of ponepaste

>>41734860
Give me 5 minutes.

>>41734860
Done. Clicking on a tag pulls it into the search bar. Adding multiple tags searches for stories with all tags. More complex logic handling will come later.

>>41734862
>>41734889
damn nice
anon got btfo'd

>>41734889
Good job, faster coding turnaround than ponepaste.

>>41734889
Cant remove tags after adding them, pretty shit implementation t b h

>>41734919
Give me 2 minutes

>>41734922
You're using GPT to do this arent you?

>>41734924
I wish GPT would be good enough to code, but no. I'm just testing myself right now.
>>41734919
Fixed

>>41734927
>Fixed
Nope, It's fucked. deleting a tag doesn't delete it from the bar and when you add another tag it's as if you never deleted the tags. Manually deletion of a tag doesn't update the search as on a booru.

>>41734329
In case you have't seen >>41734846.
Do you already have plans how to deal with duplicate entries from different sites, especially when they differ in their progression?

>>41734937
This is partially fixed, but the search bar in the header still doesn't update for some reason. I'll fix that after I get back.
>>41734946
I have zero plans for anything because the whole idea came to me 2 days ago. If you have any ideas, feel free to let me know.

>>41734329
>>41734329
Holy based anon! I've been hoping for awhile that someone would make an alternative to PonePaste, because a single point of failure is super bad. Really love the end goal of archiving EVERYTHING too, keep it up <3
I've been meaning to add fulltext search to PonePaste for probably about a year, maybe this'll motivate me to do it finally.

>>41735464
Ugh. I checked it out on my "work" laptop which has all the NSAWare enabled like JS and stuff (which is actually my personal laptop because I bought it myself, and I don't have a job anymore so I don't care what I do it anymore) and it was awesome, but I got out of bed and checked it on my main machine... it requires JS, pls fix. Other than that, still awesome.

>>41735471
Well, I mean, it's a React app. It needs JS to function, but I can make a fallback for users who disable it.

>>41735496
It looks like a NextJS app to me; could you not do SSR? I believe Next also has a lot of built in things that let you do fallbacks, like Server Actions will work with AJAX if you have JS, otherwise they'll fall back.

>>41735511
Yeah, I can do SSR. Sorry, I misunderstood what you were asking. Will do that after I enable content searching.

>>41734329
Damn with this dev skill you could help out Mare Fair

>>41735514
Added content searching, but it's very slow right now. Will speed it up tomorrow. Working on SSR now.

>>41735514
>>41735722
Never mind, SSR is going to be very annoying to pull off. I'll try taking a stab at it at a later time, but I'm just going to work on being able to manually tag stories for now, and adding stories from PonePaste over as well.

>>41735749
Let me know if there's any better data format I can provide for PonePaste!

>>41734329
Nice work!

I remember seeing a conversation about pone.social, one anon told another that it was a popular place but desu a part of the anons that post there are Twitter screencaps or posts shared from other sites.
What are your experiencie using pone.social?

>>41735722
>Added content searching
Sometimes Christmas miracles really do come true.

>>41734986
>If you have any ideas, feel free to let me know.
I don't know how easy that would be in terms of coding, but the easiest solution I could think of is to check duplicates for date and/or size when they pop up, as the updated ones would be the more recently edited/larger text files in most cases. It's probably not a perfect idea, but it's at least something.

>>41736385
I thought about it some more overnight, and checking for duplicates shouldn't be that hard. I'd like a comprehensive database before I run any script that culls anything first, but it's doable.

>>41736475
>I'd like a comprehensive database before I run any script that culls anything first
Perfectly understandable. It's better to have a few things doubled rather than cutting something unintentionally.

>>41734986
I'd appreciate if you add a searchable list of all tags, like on boorus.

>>41734986
Also can you make it so when you click on the search field at the top it'd focus on the pop-up one so you can start typing right away without clicking one more time?

>>41734986
One more thing, can you make greens and tags a proper links or something so they can be opened in the new tab by clicking middle mouse button.

>>41735832
Twibooru bugreport: when I tag images and the mouse happens to be in a position where the suggested tag picker opens it automatically picks whatever tag the mouse is hovering over. Pretty annoying.

>>41735722
Is the content search actually searching the content of the stories? It seems like the results are only returning matches in the title or author fields.

>>41737650
Yeah, it broke. Will fix it later tonight.

>>41737575
Yeah that happened to me too.
>>41734986
Last post I hope.
- Maybe tags on the green pages should be clickable too?
- Maybe there could be buttons to scroll pages all the way down and to the top for mobiletards and these lazy fags who don't want to press home/end buttons or move scrollbar manually?
- Dialogue in the quotation marks that comes after citing sign >"like this" doesn't render green, is it intended?
- Author names could be clickable too.
- Being able to sort greens by date/authors/title would be nice.
- Does login form supposed to do something or is it just a placeholder for now?
- If you intend to allow users to edit tags you'll have to make a guidelines for that, like, what should be tagged, what tags should be used and how. Looking at the tag guidelines on the boorus may help. Don't forget about tag alias so that newfags won't create hundreds of tags which basically mean the same thing. And there'd have to be a moderation of sorts to prevent fags from messing with tags.

>>41734329
Is there a means to submit stories?

poner and twi merge my drawfag tags reeeee

>>41738373
>poner and twi merge
Better not. Having redundancies is important.

>>41713722
Any chance you could at least prioritize finishing the removed stories only filter ?
That alone would make the site a lot more worthwhile to use for searching for deleted stuff.

>>41734338
>Also planning to have an automatic desuarchive scraper that adds greentext stories live.
Holy kino.

>>41734547
I'm against this. People will grief the tags and that'll make another cycle of moderators vs griefers headache

>>41738930
Well, one can make an invite-only system where only writefags, namefags with good reputation and "anons" from image boorus with long tagging history can edit them.

>>41738930
>People will grief the tags
It's no different than the boorus, and outside of character tags the AI tagging is basically worthless.

>>41738966
>invite-only system
Sounds like cancer.

>>41738967
the ai tagging is surprisingly good though

>>41737650
Sorry for the delay. Fixed content searching just now - haven't had much time to work on this due to being busy with work all day. I'll get to the other bug reports/feature requests tomorrow. Feel free to keep throwing suggestions at me in this thread.

>>41737927
I was thinking people could submit stories via Discord or something, but I'm not sure if that would be a good idea.

>>41739195
Never mind, something broke. Fixing that now.

>>41739199
>Discord
I can think of no faster way to make this dead in the water. Absolutely a terrible idea.

>>41739209
I'm not the creator just to be clear

>>41739237
Yeah I can see that.

>>41739195
I'm re-indexing the stories to make content searching much faster. I'm tired so I'm going to let this run overnight and will finish fixing it in the morning.

>>41735832
If you have a dump of the ponepaste data that I can use, that would be much appreciated.

>>41706083
Just noticed that mlpg.co is down. How long has it been like that?
Guess I'll be using https://fg.b4k.co/mlpg/archive in the meantime.

>>41738880
Yeah, I think I can prioritize that!
>>41739308
You can find the data in CSV format with stories in raw text format here: https://ponepaste.org/dumps/ . The script I use to generate them is also included in that folder if there's any trouble understanding the format.
If there's anything that would work better, let me know.

>>41739541
There are copies of mlpg.co over here: https://iwiftp.yerf.org/Pony/Website%20archive/Fan-made/mlpg.co/warc/
But it doesn't look like it covers https://hyperindex.mlpg.co/ which has the very early /co/ threads. I really hope that one isn't lost.

>>41739541
>>41739701
Good news. Found this from 2016: https://archive.org/details/warc-hyperindex_mlpg_co
I haven't been able to find it anywhere else though, so I'd recommend getting it now.

>>41734338
>Also planning to have an automatic desuarchive scraper
This is probably a retarded question to ask but will the single-post shitpost greens that I wrote as well about for instance how much a mare enjoys fucking Anon because X and Y be archived too?

>>41740222
The ultimate goal of the website is to archive *every single greentext* ever written, so yes as long as they're tagged with the appropriate tags, like "shitpost", "one-shot", etc.

I know I skipped a bunch of questions but I'm very busy with work at the moment so I'll get to answering them when I can. I figured I should answer this one quickly because I have a few minutes.

>>41740463
This sounds absolutely retarded to automate, if you add all >greentexting to be scraped then you will have a 99% shit to 1% greens ratio. Green format stories originated out of the site, after greentexting was already heavily used without telling any story.

You know what I want? A board archive that doesn't purge pics older than a handful of years, like a desuarchive admin's dating pool.

>>41740615
That's where an AI tagging system comes in handy. All the shit can be automatically filtered out.

>>41740641
AI could be used to suggest things, but it shouldn't be relied upon to make actual decisions. You can never actually trust the output of those things.

>>41740641
Ai for content scraping has never worked in the history of the internet. You are a fucking retard.

>>41740667
>>41740682
Actual creator of horsewords.org here. The idea isn't stupid, it just has to be done properly, with the AI tagging can be utilized in a non-naive way (not the same as AI scraping). It is something I'd like to implement down the road, but it's not imperative right now. Probably the best course of action is to let people manually update greentexts and think about automation when the time comes.

>>41740727
ai Tagging is completely different than scraping and filtering which has a history of being worthless and a piece of shit outside of on paper.

>>41740744
I'm aware. I use AI extensively every day for my job. I know what I'm doing.

>>41740463
>>41740615
I think I'll make a collection of all my currently existing one-shit greens to ensure that particular paste is just an assortiment of garbage like all my greens really.

>>41740624
>A board archive that doesn't purge pics older than a handful of years
I never quite got why that happens in the first place. Was that ever stated in some manner?

Up.

>>41740624
Does it really matter at this point? The images from the golden days are already long gone, and anything worthwhile nowadays is being saved somewhere, if not multiple places.

>>41740762
>I write code all day using ChatGPT
>guise I know what I'm doing trust me!!
Dead in the water. You have the wrong attitude. You are not better than us, especially if you think you are.

>>41742943
Anyone who actually uses GPT knows how shit it is at actually coding.

>>41742943
stop projecting anon

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>>41741645
Desu is an archive in name only. They've gone as far as removing links to artpack leaks because the artists kvetched:
https://archived.moe/mlp/post/38993240
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/post/38993240

Up.

>>41734329
Will you be adding markdown support?

>>41743894
Sucks. Can't say that I miss the no hooves crap, but the practice is still bad.

>>41743894
How did you find that with disabled search ?

>>41745299
I can't even remember. It's all lost in the red mist.

what is happening with ponybooru? I keep getting 503s

>>41745385
Zizzy is busy rebranding into furbooru 2

Up.

>>41745299
>disabled search
Where?

>>41713722
> Should Twibooru import from Tantabus too?
Way to drown pony content in absurd amounts of slop., you're going to fuck up.

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>>41746493

>>41713722
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I presume that Tantabus' tagging quality is worse. In which case importing it would be a detriment.

>>41747278
Ah, so the moe site.

>>41713722
>Should Twib import from Tantabus

No.

>>41747332
I really hope Ponerpics and Ponybooru won't follow. If Twib becomes the AIslop archive, 's fine. If others follows, put some damn default filters.

>10
No.

>Almost again
Still no.

>>41747982
It really feels like there's an even split here, so I'm not sure what to do. Of the one other staff member who's commented on this to me, they're for importing from Tantabus. I'm neutral.

Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>41749050
Flip a marecoin.

>>41749050
Is it even big enough for it to matter much? Anons are concerned about "wasting" server space, but if the site is small, it won't matter much if it's imported.

>>41749050
Import it. Twibooru is supposed to be an archive of everything pony related.
If someone does not like the AI stuff, filter it out.

Also I dont want to have to visit 10000 places for pony content.
We have now like 20+ boorus or other sites where ppl post pony. Extremely annoying.

Also keep in mind that derpi's retard offspring is probably temporary. They "direct" people interested in that content there but the flame will soon die, then they just kill it off with a "it wasn't used by many" while also deleting all from derpibooru. They just want to completely get rid of ai stuff. Fucking retards.

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>>41749050
As an AI artist myself, please consider how we don't need to import everything on Twib, this will be catastrophic and we don't need this. Like Anon said earlier this will flood the site, unless you set default filters.
So no, this is a terrible idea. Let us post on Twibooru as usual and what remains in Tantabus will remain in Tantabus.

>>41749050

well I'm against censorship in all forms, even AI, BUT that's like saying «welcome migrants».here, it does brings nothing to the site.

on a different topic, how's the financial situation of Twibooru going by the way? it's DD here, how do I contact you? Tried a PM to the staff earlier, >in after zero replies.

>>41749222
>Let us post on Twibooru as usual
Where almost nobody posts anything.

>>41749200
I get it, hopping between multiple sites sucks. But that’s exactly why we need Tantabus for, a dedicated space for AI art where we don’t have to deal with trolls, hostility, or inconsistent rules like on Derpibooru, I'd also like it to be centralized but I'm not feeling much comfortable with Ponerpics, Twibooru and the other alts either.
Derpi’s Tantabus will definitvely not disappear, staying there means building a stable, supportive community where AI art is respected, not sidelined. Instead of fighting for scraps on sites that don’t want us, while really altboorus and others can also welcome some AI pony content but never go like we MUST centralize everything, just like foalcon, there's foalcon dot moe for this exact same reason.

>>41749200
>have to visit 10000 places for pony content.
This is what pisses me off, segregation of an already dead fandom is retarded, and having to browse multiple sites for specific content sucks.
Despite what some may think, TSP and the derpi mods aren't against AI, they're just giving to the artists who keep moaning about AI being allowed on derpi.
They banned AI on derpi to satisfy the artists and end the constant DNPs.

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>>41749242
Simple math, it takes hours for a drawfaggot to make an image, while it took only a few minutes for me to create a visual image. Twibooru can archive ALL of pony content, real content will be hard to find and even myself I never bothered with using any filter, I could miss something. I used to, then found myself liking what I filtered.
Don't force people into enjoying AI art, let them come, they are not ready for this. Also lot of my works are on Twib too.

>>41749266
it isn't segregation when both artists and prompters _want_ this segregation.
Multiple sites. You can literally use two sites. Quit being a sperg.
Derpi did relocate AI to its sister site, let's just make an alternativre to Tantabus and that will be all set! But aggregating everything is the worst idea. If it weren't for boorus I would have to get on FurAffinity or E621 and go through thousands of dog cocks to get mares. And encounter some fluffy pony crap.
segmentation is good and keeps the fandom at peace, read, the migrants analogy.

>>41749251
Okay derpitard, I bite.
Tantabus is just as much of a cancer as Derpi if not more. Why do you think it will be any different? It will be just as inconsistent. It will be just as toxic.

>>41749267
Are you retarded or something? So filters are bad because they filter? WTF?

>>41749273
>You can literally use two sites.
Neither I want to use. Derpi is literal cancer, the other one just builds upon the already formed tumor.
Also if it were only 2 sites... With the fully retarded decisions made by derpi mods they successfully split the userbase across about 20 if not more sites.

>>41749251
>Have separate boorus for different content
Sure, but where do you draw the line? Separate site for foalcon? For futa? For anthro? For creatures? For fan made art and another for screencaps?
It's bullshit. Why are people so incapable of using filters.

>>41749296
It would be good for AI gens to be filtered by default just like for porn and foalcon or lolishota. It cant be hard. Or do nothing, I'm just saying importing all from Tantabus is retarded as fuck.

>>41749050
Don't import.

>>41749301
>It would be good for AI gens to be filtered by default
They already were on derpi, but tards turn their filters off and bitch about seeing AI content.
>importing all from Tantabus is retarded as fuck.
I agree, I enjoy AI, but 98% of it is utter trash. But there truly are some diamonds in the rough (especially clop)

>>41749197
AIslop will never be art, and you will never be an artist.
Filling a site for art with shit makes the quality content look rare.

>>41749222
Never thought I could agree with an AIfag. But I get why, it should be common sense.

>>41749278
>Toxic
GB to twitter tranny. Segregation prevents conflict. Artists are our civilisation, they give everything for AI art for free or without being asked. What they get in return are insults.
Let Ai develop in its own niche on its own.

>>41749050
Tell em it's a bad idea or ask around first. I, for one, am against this, and I confess I like some good Ai mares. But do not create more problems than there are.

>>41749233
> that's like saying «welcome migrants».here

Perfect analogy. AI have their OWN communities. Tantabus, purplesmart and a few boorus, we don't need that. If I want to find artists I will go to altboorus, if I wanna find Ai gems I can go to Tanta or 5, 6 other sites hosting them.
Go check the Ai art thread, there's links and everything.
Ai is fantastic but it's not the role of an art archive, fuck derpi but it had to be done.
Other boorus should consider this.

>>41749050
Why are you asking 4chan and not your users then?
Spoilers: Tantabus will be bigger than Derpi and all of the alternatives, you will beg for AI art as people will leave.

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>>41749050
Man, I love you for the efforts you put for years on Twibooru, but If you’re even considering this, it shows you lack of understanding of both the communities and the purpose of altboorus.
These platforms should protect free speech but also protect artists in the same way AI-focused sites supports prompters. Mixing AI imagesinto a general archive creates unnecessary tension, as most members see it as out of place or even disrespectful. And even if it would be great to work together with artists, it is not going to happen, this isn't a care bears world, there is competition and you cannot change this.
AI art deserves its own dedicated space, where it can be appreciated for what it is without overshadowing or detracting from hand-drawn work.
Sites like Tantabus exist for this reason, have been done to prevent the downfall of Derpibooru and the faggots there know exactly what they are doing. Importing more AI content here would only worsen the divide and create a bad climate for everyone involved. A clear separation shows respect for both AI creators and traditional artists.
Everyone must know their place, so I'm the black grump who wants segregation. And it's not only about you, you all got to make the responsible choice and as an AI creator myself, who also love other art, let AI thrive in its own community while keeping altboorus focused on the artists they were built to support. In fact we don't even need Tantabus.
I'm for a strict segregation for now, until, I hope, one day, regular artists decide to unite. Right now, it's too soon. You all want things to speed up and live together, but it isn't that easy. We are way too different, and this only means a source of conflict, and we don't need this.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

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>>41749560
>pic
Kinda ironic furpi ignored a lesson not just from the show, but from a latter season. I thought they liked the latter seasons (even though SoS is a nugget of gold in a pile of shit).

>>41749588
i dunno, i never watched it sober because of it being in later seasons.
all i know is that the woodniggers keep skinwalking unicorns and burning down the forest while being weird mutes.

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>>41749560
That's two completely different things.
Yes I could filter AI. I don't want to switch filters all the time, and when I browse Ponerpics I expect to see art from humans, find an artist and discover more, commission them, share ideas, you can't do that with AI generated images. I like to look at them. I love generating AI stuff too, but even if I have the level, I do not want to post my gens on any booru.

The climate in the art community and artists right now is already more divised than MAGA and woke left. You say you use AI to an artist you like, he's going to punch you in the face verbally.
Same with us, there's AI creators who really do it because they're mad at artists.
Just leave us alone, we may create our own AI alternative to Derpi, I hope you guys will join, and I will be pleased to post my works there, but let's stop with the CoExIsT bullshit; it's eroding the core of the fandom.

>>41749233
>how's the financial situation of Twibooru going
Twibooru itself is out of donation money as of next month. I have money that I will continue to use to pay the server bills, so it's no in danger of dying or anything, but donations are always welcome to lessen the load on my own wallet.

I've read a bunch of the responses here with regards to Tantabus, they're all great. I'm going to discuss it more with Twifag and other staff before we make any concrete decisions. If it's imported, we will likely introduce new preset filters for people who don't want to see it.

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>>41749660
Also ask about what you would think about an alternative to Tantabus, a place of our own without TB's restrictions, and a better name.
Something like Sweetiebooru, all styles allowed, no limits, no control, complete freedom, no trolling, only honest comments.

That would be kino, what do you think?

>>41749721
Is it really a good idea to even further segment the community? I feel like it would just add to the problem; now we've got two extra sites instead of just one. I did want to make some kind of multi-booru browser to aggregate everything into one in some way, but that's still a solution to a problem I don't want to contribute to more.

>>41749738
Nobody said you'd have to manage it, someone who really knows AI art should manage it, you would just need to encourage AI to be posted on the altbooru for AI/ML.

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>>41749738
Don't rush things. all of this happened recently, and it need time. Months or current of the next year perhaps. As in division, no, on contrary that will separate things in two categories, there are people who hate AI and that's not helping.
In the end it will show who's the best, without the sickening competition that's going on.

>>41749222
You will never be an artist

>>41749721
Anon, I'm all in with that.

>>41749770
Kill youself fucking sperg. You're full of shit.