Top 3 would porbably by Applejack (traditional, family focused), Rarity (likes chivalry & being a proper lady), and Fluttershy (already naturally submissive as well as nurturing and maternal). But the idea of Rainbow Dash submitting is admittely hot, so here's a green for that:>Hi anon! It's been so long since we've talked!>Yep, I'm married now! And yeah, I guess he is kind of a take-charge type. Heh, I'm attracted to a strong, dominant stallion, what can I say?>Huh? Well duh, of course i'm a good leader myself! I'm still the same tough, independent tomcolt Dash! It's not that I can't take the lead, It's just...nice to not always HAVE to, y'know? And, I mean...I guess I kinda enjoy backing him up and letting him take the spotlight sometimes...>Y-yeah, I guess I can be a little more...ugh, "submissive" around him than I usually am. But so what, huh?! It's cause I'm CHOOSING to be, not cause I'm weak all of a sudden or anything! It's a choice I get to make with him, cause he's dependable.>Well of COURSE mares are awesome! You're looking at the most awesome-ist mare of all, y'know! And yeah, we make great leaders, just look at Celestia! Anon, I promise I'm not doubting my ability to lead or be independent, or anything. I just...ugh, look, I'll kick your flank if you tell anyone this, but I maybe kinda LIKE being a little more...s-submissive, with him. I mean, I spend so much time being my headstrong, badass self that sometimes it's nice to be able to step back, relax, and kinda take on the opposite role with someone I trust. It helps me feel safe letting my guard down, knowing that I can trust him to have my back and watch out for me. A-and I guess it's, uh, k-kinda nice...feeling a little, y'know...small and submissive, sometimes...>...Eugh, I swear anon, if you tell anyone I said that...!>How am I submissive with him? Oh, gosh Anon...w-well, I just put a lot of trust in his opinions and decisions, I guess. Dude has a good head on his shoulders– s'why I married him, right? And I guess I let myself be a little more mare-ish and traditional with him, 'cause I feel comfortable enough with him to be. I AM still a mare, you know!>...You heard me call him sir?>...Ok, um, this is really embarrassing, b-but that's....kindasortamaybeakinkthing, s-so pleasepleaseplease for the love of Celestia let's not get into that–> S-SEX?! *blushes and begins furiously swatting at you* ANON THAT IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF NOT GETTING INTO IT! I can barely talk about being submissive in my relationship, you think I want to talk about how I'm submissive in the bedroom?!>...>...I MEAN WAIT, NO, NOT TO SAY THAT I'M– ANON, YOU GET BACK HERE! DO *NOT* TELL RARITY!
>>41804305It's Chrysalis
>>41804305Touch grass and talk to real women
>>41804329Real women tend to like their husbands leading them
>>41804305>>Y-yeah, I guess I can be a little more...ugh, "submissive" around him than I usually am. But so what, huh?!
>>41804335Pinkie Pie, what's wrong?
>Twilight SparkleWould like to shut her brain off and trust her romantic partner but doesn't care for outright subservience.>RarityProbably open to it from time to time but would expect you to take the back seat when she has distinct plans and intentions, loves being the star.>Pinkie PieWould get bored of the dynamic fast.>ApplejackShe prides herself on what she's capable of and I don't think she'd be willing to give up on the other things that matter to her just to make her husband comfortable.>FluttershyProbably the most likely, it'd feel a bit restrictive to her but she'd be willing to do it if she really loves you.>Rainbow DashShe'd be hyper-independent and then wear a collar in the bedroom. Everyone knows that.
>>41804313Or Moonie.>>41804329Lol. Lmao even.
>>41804333I'm serious. You need to touch grass and develop a normal understanding of women. They're just normal people and not weird fetish stereotypes.
>>41804305OP, your gay nigger fetish will never take off despite posting it verbatim 10 times already. It'll be a bump fest til 10 or 20, then slid off the board
>>41804358I'll just quote a previous post to rebutt this: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/41638327/#q41642563>That isn't how humans work at all.Patriarchal marriages were the norm throughout human history, even nowadays the healthiest marriages generally involve the man leading. Even feminist women still desire their man's strength and dominance deep down, even if they don't actually respect him enough to submit. The popularity of bdsm among women shows a corruption of this natural and good desire.>Someone like her isn't going to think "Now I have a spouse, I will submit to him and carry out his every whim because I have to fill an exact checkbox of a strawman propaganda story that I'm in." If her husband made her the submissive trad wife role, that only causes a shitload of resentment and dysfunction.I'm not saying that her husband should MAKE her submit, and I agree that forcing her into that role would cause resentment and dysfunction. I'm saying that if she married a man who is strong, capable, and willing to lead, then her feminine instincts would take over and she'd be happy to let him lead. I'm confident of this since she is so traditional and family focused, as long as she has a quality husband I don't see why she wouldn't want to stick to her natural role. And wifely submission isn't "carrying out his every whim". In a healthy patriarchal marriage the wife is still a strong co-pilot who can express her own thoughts and ideas and help correct and steer her husband in the right direction when needed.>Humans in individual families and small groups act more by consensus rather than strict military type hierarchy. Applejack ran her farm successfully for many years, and she's gonna want her fair share of decision making intact in any relationship and her family will too.I don't disagree with any of this, but this doesn't conflict with the husband being head of the house. The wife still makes plenty of her own decisions in a healthy patriarchal marriage, and the husband should hear her considerations out. But the husband should act as a strong leader and the buck should stop with him. His role in being the final decision maker is apparent when a particularly hard decision has to be made. Just because her husband would have headship over her doesn't mean Applejack would not have plenty of her own power.(1/2)
>>41804372>Your ideas are entirely based on stepfordization porn and out of touch memes rather than real life relationshipsNo, it's based off how healthy relationships have worked throughout all of human history, human nature and the natural differences between the sexes. The fact that you are associating healthy relationship dynamics with porn is a perfect showcase of how screwed up the modern world is in sexual matters. Women are physically weaker, more emotionally vulnerable and more nurturing sex. Men need to step up and lead them in healthy and loving ways. In the healthiest type of marriage, the man is the head of the house and the woman is the heart of the house. Which is a beautiful thing, men and women are made for each other.(2/2)
>>41804372>That isn't how humans work at all.Horses aren't humans. Go to a nohooves thread if you want to make a nohooves argument.
>>41804313why
>>41804376As Equestria is based on our world, I believe Equestria is patriarchal, just like our society generally is. Even with our feminism and equal rights, wives still generally take their husband's last name, men generally are the heads of house, much more men have power than women, much more women stay at home to raise kids while their husbands provide, and men are generally expected to be dominant and initiate (men are expected to propose for example). I don't see why Equestria would be different than our society on any of this. I'd say modern western society is legally egalitarian but culturally patriarchal, and Equestria seems to be the same way.
(You) will have to keep up with Pinkie's all night every night energetic sexcapade
>>41804383>believe Equestria is patriarchal, just like our society generally isThere's essentially zero evidence for that outside of maybe some language-related things (calling Equestria a kingdom for example). In terms of social structure we see very little of what you describe, and the difference of course is that they're magical horses that live in a semi-utopian society where the evopsych stuff you're working off of have absolutely zero relevancy.
>>41804372>>41804375Actually talk to women and gain real world experience. Because parroting talking points isn't going to make you any better at interacting or talking to them. Having an autistic and analytical of women dehumanizes them and warp your view of reality to the point where you can't relate to them on a basic human level.
>>41804305None, because the cancerous fetishes of permavirgins don't exist in Happy Horsie Land.Thank you for not reproducing.
>>41804383>I believe Equestria is patriarchalEquestria clearly isn't patriarchal
Any femanons here want to give their thoughts on this?
>>41804400This. Turbo virgins talk to cis women in the most cringe inducing way imaginable. It always comes off as unnatural and completely forced. Like they're trying to communicate with an alien species instead of another person.
>>41804402Every once and a while left wing people imagine their ideal society and accidentally write the most subtly right wing thing you can imagine. It's why in the later seasons they had to make the friendship school with tons of non-ponies. To shit on the original concept Faust accidentally made.She imagined her own ideal society, made a show about it, and surprise, it's the evil patriarchy/right wing! Equestria is a monarchy and Celestia is a benevolent queen. Women still ascended to the throne in patriarchal monarchy.I know y'all will disagree and I get it, the absolute Cosmic-Immortal-God-Queens are both female. So *technically* Equestria IS ruled by mares. But that is because they are Alicorns, their sex is almost totally irrelevant as to why they rule. The Sisters rule because they are a highly powerful, higher class of being that out-ranks the common Pony regardless of sex. So them being female kinda doesn't matter.And sure, the vast majority of main characters are female, but isn't that a biased perspective on our part? The premise of this show is to follow the story of a group of female friends, who champion friendship and love 'n' stuff. But I really don't think Equestria at large is a matriarchy at all, it seems way more like a patriarchy, but one where it is a lot easier for females to ascend the social ladder, and where feminine traits are valued moreso than we do in our real world. But despite all that I'm positive 90% of their society is actually patriarchal and the average stallion tends to be the ones in charge and running things more often in their everyday life. Mares are still kinda expected to be the submissive/passive ones overall.
>>41804409I'm trans and even I think this is cringe fetish slop. If you want a real girlfriend then talk and treat them like a real person. Don't mind rot your perception of women by treating them like something dehumanized.
>>41804431>Equestria is a patriarchyWhy?>because... um... i imagine it to beOkay dude. I guess it's as valid as any other headcanon, good for you. I do agree that it's not a matriarchy though, it's pretty clear that one's societal role is decided by magic and fate neither of which seem to have a bias towards a particular sex.
>>41804420To be fair, it's not just the virgins.A lot of men just can't interact with a female without making it about sex. It's just as cringe-worthy to watch.
>>41804354Really? I thought they all liked 50 shades of grey.
>>41804420>tranner fan>using the word "cis">>41804444>I'm trans>has digitsDamn you can't write these memesm
>>41804382I didn't read the OP. But It was revealed to me in a dream.
>>41804684Hopefully there are some real femanons here
>"trans">calls other people cringeI'm good anon. Have a good one.
OP is submissive to nigger cocks.
>>41804305im a 26 year old mentally ill chronically depressed shut in never made it past high school unemployed institutionalized twice who doesnt have sex or touch grass and even i think you're insane OP
>>41804444I said femanons, not you
>>41804305This is what you do than rather getting an actual one you could mingle while down in town? Oh wait, there's little to no chance of that ever happening. You're better off with kissing your pillow.
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>>41804716I'm sorry to tell you this but most girls stop caring about cartoons after turning 15. They start watching edgy teen dramas with handsome shirtless guys instead.
>>41805316>>41805333ynbaw
Rarity would play stepford as long as it gives her an excuse to wear new outfits. Once she exhausts her wardrobe, she'll go back to being a workaholic.
>>41804444Your entire identity is a fetish and women dehumanize themselves.
>>41805353If you want a girlfriend then the first step is realizing women are just normal people. Talk to them like you would with anyone else and you'll see they're not the dehumanized caricature you created in your mind. They go through life just like anyone else and like spending time with other people.
Everything about this thread is recycled verbatim because there's nothing to be said about this dumbass idea.>"Mares in equestria would be submissive tradwives because... because I said so!" *Insert paragraphs about baseless assertions that have nothing to do with the show*All this because OP spent his formative years on /pol/ instead of going out with friends and so thinking life naturally wants to be a 50's sitcom
>>41805384>If you want a girlfriendI don't>the first step is realizing women are just normal peopleThey aren't>Talk to themThat's how I began to hate them>they're not the dehumanized caricature you created in your mindOnce again, they do this to themselves. Changing my outlook on women will not change how they behave.
>>41805442Lol, ugly
>>41805422Equestria is a matriarchy. Literally mares rule and get figurehead husbands. OP would be the "submissive tradwife" in traditional Equestrian family
>>41805457>No argumentSad!
>>41805529Lol, virgin
>>41805442I'm sorry if you had bad experiences with women in the past. You shouldn't have this bitter and nihilistic outlook on women in general though. Most are actually cool and fun to hangout with.
>>41805534Sad!>>41805537>You shouldn't have this bitter and nihilistic outlook on women in general thoughEverybody says this, but they never have a good argument for it.>Most are actually cool and fun to hangout with.The fastest way to destroy a community or a hobby is to invite a woman into the fold. Wherever they go, drama follows.
>>41805544>The fastest way to destroy a community or a hobby is to invite a woman into the fold.You could just drink coffee together and talk about stuff. It doesn't have to be so complicated and adversarial to interact with them. Sometimes a girl just wants to talk to another person and have someone listen to them. You might even have something in common and contribute to the conversation.
>>41805544>T. Got mad that his high school crush always had a boyfriend and sulked in his room onlineLol
>>41805551>You could just drink coffee together and talk about stuffSounds terrible. >It doesn't have to be so complicated and adversarial to interact with themlol. lmao.>Sometimes a girl just wants to talk to another person and have someone listen to themNot my problem.>You might even have something in commonThe only thing I have in common with women is how much they hate other women.>>41805570Never had a high school crush. I already hated women by that point. Try again.
>>41805574>Never had a high school crush. I already hated women by that point.Lol, faggot
>>41805575I hate faggots too. Come up with a real argument simp.
>>41805577There is no argument. You should be alone, bitter and miserable festering in the life you created for yourself. Not even Equestria would want you.
>>41805577There's nothing to argue, you're just a sad lolcow
>>41805588>>41805594>Has to resort to ad hominem >Has to resort to the idea of "not being approved by fictional characters"
>>41805606>Thinks everything needs to be a "debate"Lol, no wonder you're a virgin
>>41805606Anon, not all women are created equal. Some function and reason quite well, you just have to be willing to look.You probably know that and just don't have the patience for it, which is fine - if my wife died, I wouldn't bother remarrying because I wouldn't want to deal with woman bullshit while searching.Just make sure you've made your peace with no kids and no support.>t. married misogynist
>>41805629>mqrried misgynistI feel sorry for your wifet. unmarried and uniterested misandrist
>>41805654>T. 30y catlady
>>41805621>"Y-you can't just hate women!">"Why not?">"S-shut up virgin. Not everything has to be a debate.You started this.>>41805629I don't know how I can make this any more clear than I already have. I hate every single woman on this planet. Some are just less terrible and maybe even tolerable on a good day.But if my ideals make me a bad guy, and undesirable to a group of people that already made it clear that they fucking hate me, then so be it. I'm used to it.I'd rather be alone and miserable than live a life of delusion bending over backwards for someone who despises me.
>>41805657I Am not 30, but I do like cats. I have accepted my fate.
>>41805677>is so desperate for someone to make an "argument" so he can justify himself and so he can "own" them with "facts and logic" like his favorite redpill jewtuber>Can't fathom people just laughing at him for being a fagLmao, virgin
>>41805727I don't need to justify myself. I don't care about your approval on an anonymous shitposting website. I know I'm right. Don't like it, don't reply to me.Appealing to normalcy by calling other people virgins and incels doesn't work here.
>>41805739>Call faggot OP a virgin>Writes fucking war and peace throughout the thread in response, claiming he doesn't careI love the taste of butthurt in the morning
>>41805751>it thinks I'm OPTry again
>>41805760>Puts this much effort into responding to such low tier baitImagine if you put that effort into something productive
>>41805767Responding to posts takes zero effort.
3D women are okay, not great not terrible
>>41804305>But the idea of Rainbow Dash submitting is admittely hot.Interesting. I go the opposite direction with fluttershy. As she warms up to me and we get closer she becomes a lot more daring, confident, and courageuous when around me. I think of it as a trust thing. I really like the idea of helping her overcome her fears, building her confidence, and letting her know she shouldn't feel like a bad or inadequate mare just because she has anxiety. She'd be a lot more comfortable with telling me stuff or acting silly around me because she knows I won't judge her. I also think removing the barrier of fear would let her be herself to her fullest extent and allow her to be a lot better at things she might usually struggle with. She'd reciprocate my efforts when I'm feeling down given her nurturing nature and our relationship would be a constant cycle of lifting one another up. And yeah the idea of a confident fluttershy is pretty hot to me.
>>41804305reminder that none of the Mane 6 would like incelfags, and incelfags would likely be sent to be rehabilitated and educated
>>41805912The mane 6 would hate women too
Oh, this thread again. You'd think OP has a humiliation fetish or something with how little they take the hints.
>>41805333I know multiple women in college who still like cartoons lol
>>41806117So the mane 6 would hate their EQG counterparts? Because Twilight didn't when she met them
>>41804305Marble Pie. She knows to keep her mouth shut.
>>41804305Anon, I'm beginning to regret rewriting your original greentext into what you now use in the OP. The idea was to try to reword it to make it sound LESS cringy, out of touch, and out of character by distancing it a little from all this "societal role of the wöman" shit. But you're still really, really going in hard on that stuff, and now I'm starting to cringe and wilt in embarrassment more and more each time I see my attempt attached to it...
Fluttershy is the only tradwife, it's her duty to be as a faithful muslim.
>>41807701>fluttershy in hijabOh I wouldn't like that at all. Her mane's so pretty.
>>41807701Total Fremare death
>>41807637Is it the same mindset that drives artists erase their pony stuff from public access? Dude, bro, it's not yours to control anymore. Let it go. I mean, it's not like I never dream about surviving to my late 90s until the last witness of my mishaps is dead. I'll feel his death immediately no matter how far from me it'll happen. I'll finally be free. Oh how sweet the air will taste, how bright will be the sunlight.
>>41805824Seeing a Pony become the best version of themself is a wonderful thing.
>>41807701>muslimthis is the only fluttershy headcanon I like because it's so fucking funny
>>41805442Something really interesting that the tranny who consumes tamers homo groomer slop is telling you to touch vagina.Then their only response is you need to want to touch vagina more.>>41807701KEK
>>41805621I think you're both a tranny and jewish.
>>41808476>tfw Babs will never find out about my Jewish heritage and get to bitch about it in literally every conversation I'll have with herWhy live?
>>41807637I have no issue with women, and I don't think it's inherently bad for women to work or have power and stuff. I fully support equal rights for women, women should be respected. However, I find it to be true that their are differences between the sexes, and I really enjoy traditional gender roles which I think it helps the man and women compliment each other in a romantic and loving way. So I find it cute to imagine the Rainbow Dash and other mares happily submitting to their stallions and finding comfort in their strength and protection. That doesn't mean that the mares are being fully controlled or having to give up what they like or suppressing our personalities, it just means they enjoy and find comfort and attraction in letting their husbands lead. I really like the green you made for Rainbow Dash, it was actually a perfect representation of what I love about traditional gender roles, and I would love if you made similar greens for the other ponies. Cheers.
>>41808476I know you will never reproduce
>>41804305>Rainbow, that's wonderful! I always knew you were feminine deep down!>Don't worry darling, I am submissive to my husband just like you, it's nothing to be embarrassed about! It's super natural for us mares! It doesn't stop us from being strong mares, we submit by choice after all!>I really love the chivalrous spirit of a good dominant stallion like my husband, I would never have married some weak stallion who didn't want to lead!>Yeah, I would say that mares like us are naturally below our stallions in relationships! That doesn't mean that we mares aren't awesome tho! As long as he's treating you well, just embrace your submission to your husband! It's a natural part of our femininity!
>>41808533If there were rigid differences between sexes you wouldn't have masculine women and effeminate men (socially). There is a significant chance a man and woman will be more similar to eachother than two memebrrs of the same hender
>>41809689>genderI should stop posting on my meds
>>41808533What do the femanons here think about this?
>>41810201Anon is wrong, because I'd be perfectly fine being a housewife
>>41810234Making meals to impress your mare is where its at.>Dash had a rough, long day>make some damn good food>light the candles, prepare a hot bath for her so she can soak>optional massage>"Anon you know you dont have to do this">you do.>just to see that smile on her face everytime she comes home to see just how much you care for her.Can be done for all the other mares too. Applejack? you damn well know im going to make an apple cobbler that would make Granny proud.Twilight? Make some meals based off some books she's reading, bet the nerd would love that you make some meals from a fantasy culture in her books, or even ancient historical meals.
>>41807637Are you really surprised that he's doing this?Really, anon?You did a good job by the way. It's way better than whatever it was before, meaning that I can actually hear Dash's voice sometimes.
>>41810504Yeah, he definitely is a better writter than i am
>>41808781>but can you touch vagina???You are a retarded zoomer.
>>41809689I'm not saying there can't be overlaps and outliers in both genders, but in general men and women are very different, even if it isn't 100% the case. I really like traditional gender roles and find that they serve many couples well.