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post tamer, post flawless, complain about tamers, yeah that's pretty much it
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>>41813878
I haven't watched tamers and haven't ever ddiscussed it.
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>>41813878
Watch Sonic Underground instead of My Little Pedo.
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YOU CRAZY BASTARD WHY DID YOU DO IT.
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>>41813883
Sonic Undeground was cool. Idk why people hate it so much. Like the songs were amazing. It's weird Sonicfags don't want to kill tamers over losing a series to ponies
btw Sonic is faster than Rainbow Dash
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why do the evil ones always look the cutest
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>>41813893
Tamers is the man, we all really know he's just using MLP only for the views and he really does it for the goodness for his mom. Sonic Underground is pure and always has the most and better fans.
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>>41813878
You already have a tamers shill thread up
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Who is flawless and why should I stomach all the poo jokes to watch tamers?
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>>41813878
she will die
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>>41813878
>Tranners making threads for SU debuts
get the fuck off this board
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>>41813917
his sense of humor is more diverse than just farting and shitting, but they will eventually become funny to you after you watch it enough. flawless is a fusion of trixie and twilight sparkle because umm magic. its from "the death of twilight sparkle" which is his tenth MLP video.
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>>41813878
Tamers is not welcome in our shit! The amount of dick riding it gets is from the sonic fags! This is has to be typical furry infiltration and attempts to delegitimizing the horsefuckers, because someone cried in reddit.
Why should I enjoy something that was birth from making fun of us?
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>>41813944
?
I welcome Tamers, he's making good pony content.
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>>41813944
Because you all watch a show meant for 7 year old girls. True story.
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Would any /co/fags care to shed some light on this namefag
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>Haha pony pooped shit
>Haha sex and violence for no reason
>"GoOd CoNtEnT"
Lets not forget about character inconsistentces with characters being gay every 2 seconds to someone just to say "lol i dont" just so they hook up 2 seconds later cause "haha sex funny"
Tamersfags are either bait or starving fan who would suck any type of contetn that isnt coming from "muh evil company"
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>>41813962
Oh and lets not forget about the never ending drawn out dialogue which could shortened by 80 percent and nothing would be lost
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>>41813950
>>41813954
The way they twist the characters, lore and show we love and exposing filth to the zoom zooms, bringing them to our corner.
We already have to deal with newfags and furries from EaW.
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>>41813960
I'm just your friendly neighborhood Tamers fan.
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>>41813898
He makes both, probably all in the same intentions and engagement. But hey, agree to disagree
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>>41813972
Alot of the cahracter are also stupidly samy.
Relly their most different traits are their hobbies.
His humor of making everything edgy sex and violence made everyone the same piece of shit which scificied a lot of what the characters initially where.
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>>41813962
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>>41813974
The only thing retarded than that shitty pony is your empty minded opinion.
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>>41813972
>>41813975
>reddit spacing
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>>41813980
>No spaces is reddit spacing
Tranners IQ on display
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>>41813962
I agree. Lets keep this MARES MARES MARES! IO LOVE NUMBGET NUMGET LOL HAHA ITS FUCKING FUNNY IS SO FUCKING FUNNY
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>>41813984
thanks for showing you are in fact a newfag and/or off-boarder for me faggot
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>>41813985
Mindbroken
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>no live chat replay on the reuploaded videos
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Why is everyone posting like the new movie will drop soon? I can't find the premiere anywhere
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>>41813987
>2023 cap
I accept your concession.
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>>41813992
>redditfrog
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When is the movie?
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>>41814007
da tenf
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>>41813999
>redditponies
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>>41814010
I could already tell you were an offboarder because of the frog, no need to reaffirm that
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>>41814007
Retard.
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>>41814007
Canceled
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>>41813987
Not credible enough. Besides, things change over the course of history based on the access and technology. Also, most anons can't read paragraphs longer than 20 words.
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>>41814211
This retard is too stupid and lazy to look up screencaps of 2004 4chan, or to look up how people typed on forums in the 90s. Pathetic.
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>>41814282
This anon going back to study how to infiltrate.
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>>41813987
I literally double spaced when wall of texting so hard because I'm rambly when tired and got accused of 'redditspacing' a few times RECENTish
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>>41813962
>starving fan who would suck any type of contetn that isnt coming from "muh evil company"
Yep that's me. You have a problem with me?
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>>41813893
Cardboard box hand typed this
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>>41813995
Because is not uploaded yet. He only published the trailer so far.
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What if Soarin represents Tamers? What if Soarin wearing the Big Mac hood is mirror to Tamers in his Bartleby costume and his desire to step away from Sonic Underground? Twilight and friends saving Soarin in S&B is in reference to how Tamers mlp series taught him that he doesn't have to be stuck with SU forever. But SU will always be there to haunt him just like how the hood is haunting Soarin now. His past, forever there, like a darkness In the back of his mind. Soarin's sexuality even mirrors Tamers. It's obvious tamers is gay as shit, has been from day 1. And just like how Soarin can't come out as a famous wonderbolt because his fans will never accept him, Tamers himself is in the same boat. Especially now more than ever with the eyes of the entire mlp community on him. Look at all the homophobia and vitrial Tamers faces every time he releases a stallion video, all directed directly at him and his work. How quickly /co/ and kiwifarms turned on him, how they tried (but failed) to doxx his ass. Tamers like Soarin must now live through a thinly veiled facade for his own safety. It's as Soarin said in S&B "I just want to be able to live my life without being made fun". It's a line so simple but universally understood that it's obvious Tamers wrote that line from the heart. Soarin is Tamers.
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Would be funny if Tamers12345 fell in love with Hanazuki. Sure would be a shame if he jumped on yet another bandwagon trend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZGeT9aP5xU&ab_channel=SushiPack
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I really wish Flawless don't become the series main villain
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>>41813987
>pic
Absolutely retarded. A single enter on reddit has no effect, you can only single line down by trailing two spaces after a line and then hitting a single enter, which most redditors don't know about. Reddit spacing is double spacing because redditors have to hit enter twice to get a full paragraph break, hitting enter once isn't intuitive to them because it does nothing unless you add a poorly explained markup trick.
The claim that reddit double spaces on a single enter stroke is completely incorrect in every way.
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>>41815485
>Anypony but cakebutt as the villain
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>>41813962
>who would suck any type of contetn that isnt coming from "muh evil company"
2024 must not have been a good year for you, huh? I can't imagine anyone would seethe like this at content being successful unless they were one of the hordes of animators and writers that got the can after an entire year of flops.
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>>41813883
None of the male characters in Sonic Underground make me horny.
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>>41813987
anyone claiming to be an oldfag is a lying cunt and the fag is wrong too
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>>41813878
flawless is love flawless is life, all i want is a flawless wife
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>>41815697
Not even Knuckles the "Twink" Echidna?
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>>41815635
pretty sure that whole post is just a bait to get redditors to correct it
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>>41813995
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5y73BKx0XU
dyewts, we have a release date
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>>41813995
>>41815139
Blind fucks, the trailer literally gave a date
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>>41816047
his name is knuckles the cool echidna, get it right.
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>FARTS AREN'T FUNNY
>meanwhile 40+ years ago from the creator of dragon ball
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>>41816279
Funny.
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>>41816047
>>41816166
I'm White and don't associate with Diggers
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>>41816279
https://youtu.be/KF32DRg9opA
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>>41816279
>situation vs subject
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>>41816311
Nobody watches Sonic Underground for Bartleby Montclair of Dresdin. I know you're all just simping for Flora and Queen Aleena. Filthy heteros get the rope.
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>Filthy heteros get the rope
This is coming from someone who gets off on Yuri Pony porn?
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>>41816279
Unfunny.
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Speaking Frankly, MLP is more liked because it's Bartleby's, Celestia and Blue blood, are separated rather than one character. Half is sparsely used and uncontested as the unrealistic perfection the other half is treated as an actual character with a real direction to go with the perfection.
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>>41816735
mlp is more liked because tamers is drawing really cute horses, simple as
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mlp is more liked because the analytics say so
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>>41816739
MLP has narrative and even small episodes always keep it going or add to it, majority of old tamers is episodic in nature and most growth either doesn't stick or is only more recent. The central cast for example has very little growth or change from it's MC Bartelby not really ever moving and due to it almost all his jokes end up being the same punchline to most of the sonic jokes being him being Bartelby's bitch or being a fat dumbass faggot. Meanwhile the 6 have an ever changing dynamic that persist though episodes, twilight and celestia having dynamic narrative changes as well as twilight's autism slowly being fucked away and Pinkie and dash being pink retard and totally not a dyke womanchild.

even after the grand epic of the boys saga, since the ending has time reset none of that growth ever stuck around and the only one who would keep any development, the MC and chad, was unaffected and unchallenged by it to begin with so nothing was different for him either
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The sonic series is fucking gay and attracts the worst of the fanbases.
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>>41816945
>The sonic series is fucking gay
you're damn right
>and attracts the worst of the fanbases
the modern version does
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>>41816765
>Long paragraph
Mlp really is well liked because of it's cute horses, mate. Simple as is
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>>41815228
He’s just your average Sonic-style OC dropped into Equestria to outshines the mane cast. If he wants to write about uber-strong sexy men, Sonic Underground is a better fit for that kind of storytelling. It's always been a pattern when specifically male OC's dominate the MLP narrative. And yes, I do call Soaring an OC, because at this point that’s exactly what he is in the same was Tamers version of Bartleby is.
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>>41817017
Shhh, that was bait to see who doesn't belong, but they are not true fans of sonic to seethe.
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>>41815228
I'm glad I'm not friends with Tamers then, because Soarin is boring.
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>>41813878
The chance of her having a marecock is confirmed to be at least 25%
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>>41817028
Yes! Mlp has cute horses and have simple wonderful lives like we all desire.
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I'm kinda sad that tamers probably wont do another crossover with MLP x Sonic Underground because I still want to see the other characters react to Equestria and its zany inhabitants.
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I'm kinda happy that tamers probably wont do another crossover with MLP x Sonic underground because I still maintain that his pony stuff is way way better than what he's made with the awful furries
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>>41817259
cute
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>>41817611
What don't you like about his SU series?
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>What don't you like about his SU series?
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Hi everyone, it’s that time of the year again. I am running the third annual Tamers12345 Awards. The purpose of these polls is to assess the preferences of Tamers12345 fans throughout the year. Please vote using the below links. Note some polls allow for more than one vote to be cast. The polls will be ran until the end of February. I will post these in /mlp/ threads and the occasional SU threads on /co/ and /v/. If you see rogue threads on /v/ or /co/ you can post this for them if you are interested. Let me know if the polls have any errors.

Best Main (Mane?) Cast Character of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/w4nWW8EXdnA

Best Ship of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/2ayLQ83BVn4

Best Feature Length Episode of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/eJnvV425xnv

Best AMV / Music Squence of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/XOgOV4970n3

Best New Character of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4VNvAga

Most Tragic Death of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/LVyK2D3MKZ0

Most Epic Battle of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/poy9kPzpAgJ

Most Wholesome Moment of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/NMnQNpvAwg6

Best Fart of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/6QnMQp94bne

Best Fan Service of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/3RnYX3m4Aye

Best Florabuse of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/7rnzVLqRYnO

GR15 Opinion Survey
https://strawpoll.com/kjn1DYJ4eyQ
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>>41817621
okay this is some bullshit where is soarin?? braeburn??
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>>41817617
Not him, and I actually do like his SU series and have been watching since 2015. But his past few SU vids felt like him going through the motions, there was no spark. In every MLP vid sans the first one I can feel that spark he used to have that just seemed to wither away bit by bit after "Dr. Robotnik has HAD enough".
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>>41817621
>best fart of 2024 didn't include either death by stinky winds
cmon now
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>>41817627
literally who?
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>>41817641
That's Trixie, she's like a blue Twilight who isn't good at magic
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>>41817619
It annoys me just a little that the hat falls over her horn then just snaps back on the next frame.
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>>41817627
I've said this before and I'll say it again, the gay community is the loud vocal minority of Tamers' videos.
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>>41817645
its called magic look it up
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>>41817627
can't you read?
'Best Main Cast'
those fags are not Best anything
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>>41817641
>>41817647
>>41817650
kill yourselfs bigots
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>>41817647
Well 4chan in particular prefers mares over stallions, but I think you're right that mares are still more popular overall.
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>>41817652
statistically speaking, you first
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>>41817652
Shut up, retard.
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>>41817621
can you please post this on reddit or somewhere that isnt biased as fuck? i want you to have credit but if you dont do this i'll have to do it myself
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>>41817663
>p....please post this somewhere more gay
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>>41817663
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So much fucking sonic fans in our shit! Go back to your containment boxes!
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>>41817621
I wonder how different things would be if his YT and Twitter followers were aware of this poll?
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>>41817679
so many, my little ESL
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>>41817663
>>41817700
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>>41817663
Fucking reddit? go cry about it on reddit for you updoots.
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>>41817663
Damn, I hope he reads this in time. Hate to lose out on credit among redditors.
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I just had a dream. Elevator bathroom. You don't take stairs to get to the bathroom. The bathroom comes to you. 1st floor? 10th floor? Doesn't matter. You just go to the doors where the bathroom's supposed to be, hit the button, and boom, there it is. Elevator bathroom.
>why not just have a bathroom on multiple floors
Less to clean.
>why not just hire someone to clean the multiple bathrooms
Why invite some stranger into your house to clean your piss stains
>why not just install a normal elevator
You're a fatass.
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>>41817916
I don't think moving plumbing would work
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>>41817923
I didn't ask.
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>>41817931
ok but you're wrong and probably gay
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>>41817943
Fine if you don't want me to have an elevator bathroom I'll just use that throat of yours whenever I gotta take a dump, especially if you enjoy talking mad shit like this.
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>>41817923
you don't need to move the plumbing, just have the elevator return to ground floor and dump its contents in between uses. This is essentially what you do with an RV or bus toilet
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>>41817946
if you can't even walk up some stairs to take a shit then you definitely don't have the strength to make someone eat your shit. maybe just use a regular bathroom instead of a retarded dream bathroom BITCH
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>>41817627
No one likes you faggots and you have the worst episodes
eat farts nigga lmaooo
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>>41817639
It's literally number 2 right now?
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>>41817663
fuck reddit and fuck you nigger, go back
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>>41817647
Actually the data and fan interactions tell a different story. While the mare videos might get more views overall, it's because they're drawing in a broader audience thanks to Twilight being the literal main character, and fan favorites like Luna and Trixie being the main focus+sex appeal for coomers. This brings in more casual viewers or passerbyers who aren't as deeply engaged.

On the other hand, the gay horse videos consistently resonate more with Tamers' core fanbase and boost Tamers patreon, which is why he keeps doing them, against /mlps/ wishes. (People forget that tamers patreon jumped from $1,200 a month, all the way to $2,000 a month after the S&B movie) Fujos fund his work because Tamers is literally the only plays they can get stallion content. It is quite literally IMPOSSIBLE to find another stallion focused mlp of quality anywhere else on the internet. No. Other. Exists. Coomers want to see Luna in a maid outfit but won't pay because they know if Tamers doesn't deliver, they can just go to the booru instead.

DoTS for example has 251k views while S&B has 186k views, but they have the exact same amount of likes and roughly the same amount of comments. Meaning a huge portion of the views on mare driven videos don't represent his audience at all but are instead a bunch of horny dudes.
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>>41818009
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>>41817916
>be on the 10th floor
>need to shit
>bathroom on the first floor
>call it
>every floor called it
>shit yourself before it arrives
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>>41818029
this is for a private residence you dingus
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>>41818030
What fucking private residence has ten god damned floors?
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>>41818031
what are you a peasant??
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>>41818036
I prefer two floors myself, in addition to the standard attic and basement. Besides, why have something with moving parts when you can just convert the dumbwaiter into a poopchute?
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>>41818012
Then how come nobody paid for Daring Do retard? How come his stallion videos that didn't have patreon exclusive content get him more patreon than videos which didn't have stallions?
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>>41818043
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>>41818039
why hire a dumb waiter when you could hire a smart waiter??
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>>41818012
>tamers intentionally decieves his audience by putting gay stuff behind a paywall
So you awknowledge Tamers knows full well fujos are willing to pay for his stallion content... Now tell me why he doesn't do the same for the mares, why not put them behind a paywall? CAUSE HE KNOWS NOBODY IS WILLING TO PAY FOR IT YOU DUMBASS FUCKING RETARD OH MY GOD
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>>41818055
Smart waiters cost more, and I don't want to pay more to shit down their throats.
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>>41818056
>because tamers knows that only gays are dumb enough to spend money on mspaint drawings
ftfy
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>>41818056
Remember how Sonic Underground is for everyone, even black people? Think about how that relates to the yaoi stallions if Tamers starts putting their scenes behind a paywall. I want you to come to a sound conclusion because I know you're emotionally charged right now and I don't believe your rude post is a perfect representation of your character.
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>>41818061
Regardless we mutually agree gays and fujos are the ones who support tamers work and that's why the gay stallions ar enever going away. So we can be done here now. I expect an apology friday at 7pm est on the dot after Soarin appears in the new episode
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>>41818070
>>41818049
>The straights are mad that Tamers won't make more SU, and why would he, when faggots are lining his pockets while straights keep demanding cute shit for free?

>>41818069
Shut the fuck up retard, do NOT represent my opinions for me you FUCKING FUCK.
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>>41818069
I don't care before I'm one of his patreons bitch. I'm doing my job. Do you have any idea how excited I was when he posted the Daring Do video as a patreon exclusive. I want him to start releasing full episodes on there
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>>41818075
>I don't care *because I'm one of his patreons bitch.
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>>41818075
>>41818079
Someone else is misrepresenting me so I'm going to be very clear:
>I don't like the faggot stallions.
>I'm mad that the straight people who complain about them don't put their money where their cocks are.
>I'm mad that faggots are justifying their disgusting habits because Tamers is throwing them bones (pun intended) because they're so desperate to see gay sex they'll double his sub-count overnight.
>I'm mad that faggots also try to claim superiority about how "deep" and "intelligent" the gay stallions are when it's blatantly obvious Soarburnmac fans are just here for the sex, hence the explosion on Patreon AFTER Tamers made it look like he put a gay rape scene behind the paywall.
You may not like me, but I have a very straight-forward opinion. I don't like hypocrites. So far, I have yet to see anyone (besides myself, because I'm right) in these threads that isn't being a massive fucking hypocrite. So far, everyone challenged to not be a hypocrite has resorted to calling me names or falsely impersonating me to make me appear to be rabid, insane, or delusional. I'm not. I'm absolutely correct.

If you're gay and you like Soarburnmac for the drama, then you should have sympathy for everyone who's tired of their episodes being the EXACT SAME PLOT POINTS every single time, with the exception of psycho-Soarin, whom Tamers keeps doing nothing with to have more coltcuddling.

If you're gay and you like Soarburnmac for the sex, then be fucking honest about it, and also recognize that you're allowed to agree with the straights that the colt drama is boring as shit because it's overly-repetitive. I don't want to see gay sex or drama. You want to see gay sex. Tamers is only putting out drama. We're both unhappy. Just because I won't put my balls in your ass doesn't mean that we can't agree on this.

If you're straight and you're tired of the gay horses but you aren't supporting Tamers, then just shut the fuck up. Who the fuck are you?

>but what about "I want Tamers to do what he wants"?

Yeah he should be free to do what he wants, but this fucking economy is dogshit, it's even worse where he lives, and my concern is that this newfound popularity is starting to make him feel obligated to pump out more faggot shit that isn't funny because that's what surface-level analytics say is where the bread is. FUCK THAT SHIT. We lost FUCKING NIGHTMARE NIGHT TO THAT ROODY-POO CANDY-ASS SOARBURN "MOVIE".
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>>41818099
I ain't reading all that shit but I'm happy for you.
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>>41818100
Thanks, retard.
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>>41815485
Chrysalis was flanderised and the rest of the villains are male so we must end up with Flawless, unless Tamers learned that Opaline is a more threatening version of Nightmare Moon
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>>41816311
Unironically they look like something Chris Chan would draw. I dont get why Ponies get more cute drawing closer to canon while SU is always drawn in Tamers stylistic deviant art form. Sonic never even once looked like the Sega Japanese Sonic from game or anime or even Jim Carrey movies.
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>>41818201
The ponies flip between cute, autistic and straight up flash assets multiple times per episode, what are you talking about?
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soon
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one day left....
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>>41818887
So is there going to be a stream this time? I miss the live emote shitposts.
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As promised, I'll be in VR as Trixie to watch the return of Trixie.

Can you say you were truly watching Tamers if you aren't in uniform?
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>dude le ebin bad mspaint art xd
ironic shitposting is still shitposting
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>>41819265
if one anon remembers to make one yeah
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this new movie better be kino or I'm going to jerk off angrily
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>>41819285
>he doesn't have a real life robe and wizard hat
weak
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>>41819619
you will jerk off happily i promise
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>>41819623
>Robe and wizard
pathetic, anything less than full trixie is that of a lesser being
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>>41819694
you're not a real trixie, you're just wearing pixels on a $4000 computer setup you desperately want to brag about
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>>41819702
>$4000
You do know a PC doesn't cost that much right? I don't need to be the real trixie, I just need the full trixie appearance to watch the best pony do her thing. There is proper uniform and protocol.

It would be like taking off Tamers boxes or removing the toilet paper roll hair, it's a false imitation of what is truly attainable
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>>41819763
>he's doing VR on a $300 oculus at 30fps
even funnier desu
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>>41819769
You seem to have a very low understanding of how VR and PCs work, like very low honestly. Then again, I'm to assume you have neither in even decent quality
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>>41819788
well I may have just killed the pcie riser for my 4080 plugging in my Index, and I'm not willing to drop my x520 to own you on the internet so you win I guess
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>>41819860
It sounds like you wasted a lot of money for half the shit I'm doing for far less
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Anyone else kinda scared this might be the last pony content for a while? Feels like Sonic Underground is being teased for a comeback and that's not why I watch Tamers.
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>>41819873
I work in IT infrastructure, IT infrastructure is never a waste of money. Got it going again, but its beyond time for a new case and I hate these 3 bay GPUs
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>>41820030
can you blame luna
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>>41820030
Luna confessing her feelings for Celestia would be peak cinema. This film might even surpass DoTS.
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>>41820030
if the episode doesn't end with cadance's magic causing a massive lesbian orgy i will send a dookie to tamers po box
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>>41820030
luna will fail miserably
>>41820044
cute cake princess
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>>41820067
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>>41820030 I'm gonna explode diarrhea all over the wall behind my PC and into my moist underpants, I know it already.
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>>41820030
Gay Horses are OUT
Yuri kino is IN
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>g5 ending has 2k more views than the christmas movie ending
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>>41820075
Only faggots care about faggots, what a shock.
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>>41820030
stop spoiling shit tamers
>>41820044
i don't think anyone can blame her, celestia is the best
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>>41820070
>"Nice try but Luna is a cuck. Make way for a real fucking unicorn."
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>>41820083
alicorn soon
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>>41820083
it said in the last video that celestia might be looking for a new student
is it her turn?
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>>41820070
>tfw no filly princess who molests you before sending you to the dungeons for being a fillyphile so she can use you whenever she remembers you exist.
it's not fucking fair bros...
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>>41820095
I hope Twilight still has half her hair missing so she can be bald like her gf
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He reposted this image a while back and I hope he's going somewhere with it. The More Than a Night ED also has Twilight reaching out to both Trixie and Sunset which might trigger the two students fighting over her. I know it'll be more love triangle bullshit, but it'll be interesting if Twilight has to choose between Celestia/Sunset and Luna/Trixie. It's at least better than the gay stallion stuff we've been getting.
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>>41820162
Celestia and Sunset Shimmer: The Day
Luna and Trixie Lulamoon: The Night
And caught in the middle?
TWILIGHT Sparkle

absolute kino
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>>41820030
how awkward do you think it will be? or will luna be smooth in her confession?
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>>41820168
Aren't you forgetting somepony?
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>>41820187
fartnuked to death
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>>41820183
She'll probably confess accidentally because of her emotional link with Trixie. Another theory is they'll need the power of love to defeat the villain and Luna has no choice but to confess her feelings to gain the advantage.
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>>41820197
You fucking wish that were true
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>>41820209
That was a hallucination sequence. Soarin is trapped inside of an anti-gay sphere in space.
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>>41820217
Look at his bloodied wings. That's from Big Mac biting him, which happens after the hallucination is broken.
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>>41820187
>background pony
even fluttershy is more important
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>>41820221
nah that was also part of the hallucination
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>>41820232
>Everything I don't like is a hallucination
It's always hilarious being reminded just how thoroughly this horse mindbroke this entire side of the fandom
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>>41820187
flawless will kill her tomorrow
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I think that the arguments over gay vs yuri would end if everyone started finding homosexuality as funny as tamers does. the drama is also a joke
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>>41820315
>homo shit
not funny, super gay to the point its the only thing the characters are, wastes time and its only a B plot
>yuri shit
funny, characters with different personalities even if you take away the gay, important to the plot
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>>41820340
it is funny though. its funny to be stuck in a double bind between an elderly multi-millionaire and an older cousin with a 26 inch penis. And its also funny when all three of them are like, well I guess we are family now! its not as immediate, but there is a comedy to be found in the absurdity of melodrama
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>>41820376
You must mean funny in a not ha-ha kind of way, because no one's laughing.
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>>41820404
the pocky scene from hot pot party? That shit was hilarious
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>>41820441
nta but the pocky scene just felt like pure fanservice even if you were supposed to find it funny. I think the funniest gay moment so far was the reveal of the big mac costume.
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>>41820030
Luna has a hard life...
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I hope Celestia beats Luna's fat ass for trying to confess her feelings.
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>>41820474
yeah I don't hate the fags as much as most fag haters and that one was just uncomfortable.
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>>41820183
Celestia will call her a fag and fart on her and banish her to the moon again
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>>41820267
>>41820232
>>41820221
>>41820217
The whole movie was a hallucination sequence which explains why it was so shit
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>>41820506
this
its what I'm expecting
yurifags are gonna seethe
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>>41820506
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>people still #tetchyabouttamers
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>>41816279
>the jirenfag is in here
I’ve seen you post this webm in the halls. Embarrassing.
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>>41820506
Celestia is also a faggot, she molested Twilight
>sparkle booty I mean Twilight Sparkle... that's different, we're different
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>>41820584
Having a personal bitch doesn't make you gay.
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>>41820030
Luna is the epitome of tragedy. She's the most different in a world that doesn't tolerates differences, and for over a thousand years, she's carried a secret so profound and taboo that it shapes every facet of her existence. A deep, unyielding love for her sister.

Without ever even realizing it, Celestia turned equestria itself into the primary antagonistic force in Luna’s life. She is everything that Celestia despises. A mare who dares to love beyond the walls she herself has built. Faced with this reality, Luna's only option was to lock her own heart away. And by rejecting her own emotions, she has become a hollow shell of the vibrant filly she once was.

Tamers12345 portrays Luna as a symbol of resilience in the face of unimaginable pain. Her story is not one of triumph but of quiet endurance. Luna’s existence is a testament to the strength it takes to continue living in a world that refuses to accept you.
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>>41820030
SPEEN
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>>41820598
this, celestia only fucks to assert dominance.
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>>41820576
What exactly is her role going to be?
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>>41820736
to job
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>>41820736
to mog
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>>41820695
well all she does is assert her dominance on Luna soooo
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>>41820775
and twilight, also she makes ponies drink her piss as a punishment which is probably her fetish.
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>>41820781
>I bet they shit out so much poop
not her only fetish
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>>41820808
that was just a thoughtful observation and definitely not a fetish thing.
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>>41820828
yeah Luna's expression definitely said it was totally innocent and not a fetish she KNOWS her sister has because she's brought it up a thousand times before
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>>41820583
I literally just checked dbs for like 5 seconds for the only time this entire year and saw that and thought how funny and relevant it would be to post it here
such my horse dick
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>They think Celestia gets the choice of rejecting Luna
I'm quite sure Luna's shadow and negotiator will convince the princess of the right words to use in response
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>>41820890
>he thinks trixie has a chance against the pony that defeated her master
lmao trixiefags are so delusional
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>>41820907
Celestia jobbed to Twilight, Twilight jobbed in seconds to Flawless, Flawless jobbed to Trixie
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>>41820912
>starts with non canon shit
Done.
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>>41820912
>Flawless jobbed to Trixie
Wrong. Trixie was able to survive Flawless' attacks but it was Luna that actually defeated her, and Luna jobbed to Celestia. Also the Bardonic episode doesn't count because it was a cheap shot.
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>>41820919
canon until proven otherwise, I'm sorry the truth doesn't support your cope
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>>41820907
Alicorn twilight 1 tapped Celestia, Trixie is stronger than twilight at her peak and STILL has much room to go as far as the ED was concerned as she still doesn't have full control over both magic sources and their connection is shown as shaky.

The former sun goddess will learn just as her former student did, that there is only one mare that holds the title of great and powerful and her name is Trixie.

Also, Pinkie bitched Celestia back in B&S and sent her to the moon with but 1 fart, Trixie out scales her as well
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>>41818099
Absolutely based post

That shitty love triangle ended up being nothing more than a waste of time that detracted way too much from the rest of the series and people bragging about that patreon boost as if it didn't come from anything other than desperate fujos/homo coomers expecting more than what they got is laughable.

That said, if you’re gonna bitch, you should at least be supporting a bitch, so your bitching will actually hold value. If you're under the impression that Tamers does all the gay stallion shit for the Patreon bucks, then you'd better make an attempt at ensuring the new movie brings in an even stronger boost than the fag movie did tomorrow if you want more of that instead.

>>41820474
For me, it's Big Mac "fucking" Soarin in public in the Hearth's Warming episode. Actually, that episode in general was more enjoyable than the previous homo stallion episodes IMO since it was actually humor focused and minimized the drama to a large degree. Wish we just had that from the start.
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>>41820926
>but it was Luna who actually defeated her
Luna lost her magic in seconds to Flawless but Trixie never did.
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>>41820926
Luna had no magic and Flawless was whipped after being contested by Trixie for hours, hell what luna did was stab her which is less of a skill thing more of a horn size issue
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>>41820927
>canon until
the pilot isn't canon, tamers said so
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>>41820943
NTA but source?
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>>41820943
TA but source?
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>>41820933
That's because they were in Trixie and Twilight's mind space. And they still needed Luna to come and save them.
>>41820936
> Flawless was whipped after being contested by Trixie for hours
There is no proof of this being true.
>>41820928
Farts don't count as the user has no control over them as tamers said in the interview. If Celestia farted against Twilight's group she would have won. Just like how Rarity beat every other pony with her fart.
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>>41820943
>>41820951
>believing anything tamers says
dude is the most unreliable narrator there is
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>>41820947
>>41820950
the interview
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>>41820951
>There is no proof of this being true.
The literal proof is both Flawless & trixie were still even, the only one shown down was twilight who was behind Trixie(either unable to help or not able to do magic in that place unlike Trixie). They were at a stalemate where neither was actually gonna full on win or Trixie would have won since all flawless could actually do is copy her in that world. The only thing that could be argued is Trixie was also busy protecting twilight from real danger the entire time which is honestly even more impressive.
>Farts don't count as the user has no control over them as tamers said in the interview. If Celestia farted against Twilight's group she would have won. Just like how Rarity beat every other pony with her fart.
Fart scaling has Pinkie as the highest and most frequent with the only contesting power on the fart scale being death by stinky winds which normally kills on the spot but was resisted by cheerily. Celesta has no farts on that level and we've yet to see her do much of anything fight wise since to date it's only Luna and she had to bring out Daybreaker to contest her(even then, Luna says she was just going to try and seal her off again and as we saw with Sorain for how she does it once she starts you quite literally can't fight back)

Trixie has canon strength that even Celestia acknowledged.

Gonna be a whole lot worse if Cadance is also able to mess with her on equal foot given she is the weakest of the alicorns too
>>41820978
What time
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>>41820978
>j...just go watch a 2 hour video to find it guise I swear its there
timestamp
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>>41820984
right here at 16:44
confirmed canon by tamers12345 himself
https://youtu.be/_PVDf5NQefA?si=RbC-EpfsMI_57FJD&t=1004
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Additional reminders:
>Celestia had no actual way of solo stopping Flawless when she tried to be a nuke flat out saying that even if all of them were to go with twilight's plan that too soon or too early results in either failure or death.

>Her track record of victory, by her own words, is 7 times of sealing things and throwing them into space.

>She has had many instances of out right admitting certain things are just beyond her power like fixing Soarin

>She kneeled the moment the idea of actual rebellion came into play during twilight's speech and just nervously clapped in response

Celestia's status as god
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>>41820978
>there's an interview
sweet 2 hours of content
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people forget Trixie's first appearance in Tamers' MLP was falling into a pit and dying
>the crossover isn't canon!!!
>>41821010
funny how that's the only time he's drawn her cape and hat with stars on them
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>>41821010
Oh yeah, he literally says it's canon just that Bartley and Sonic won't be mentioned and no further crossovers because SU would hold MLP back again.

Verbatim what was said, so Celestia canonically jobbed
>>41821021
Oh yeah it's pretty old at this point
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>>41821010
he doesn't really say that, but I can see why you'd think he does
what he says is that its a "backdoor pilot" and that both universes have separate canon, but don't expect another crossover
>like the characters could cross over, but they never will again
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>>41820981
>The literal proof is both Flawless & trixie were still even
That's not proof of her being "whipped". As far as we know Flawless might have been completely fine up until the point Luna appears. If anything it looks like Trixie is the one on the defensive right before Luna arrives, but that could just be energy released upon Luna's arrival. The best you could say is that she was shaken up by Trixie's speech about her being just a reflection.
>all flawless could actually do is copy her in that world
This is wrong because it's Flawless that first releases the meteor magic that Trixie reflects.
>Trixie was also busy protecting twilight from real danger the entire time which is honestly even more impressive.
There is also no proof off this happening. Twilight does nothing but take hits after her first attempt to attack Flawless and Trixie basically just ignores her. If anything the fact that Trixie didn't try to push Twilight out of the way during the Flawless tricky cannon shows that she was only focused on the fight.
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>>41821022
>people forget Trixie's first appearance in Tamers' MLP was falling into a pit and dying
everypony was resurrected thanks to bardonic
which is I I personally hold onto the theory that the crossover episode is canon but was the theoretical "bad end" to a darker universe that had reached its end, only to be resurrected by Bartleby and his personal bitch Sonic the Hedghog
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>>41821022
>people forget Trixie's first appearance in Tamers' MLP was falling into a pit and dying
Well she didn't die but it was close for her, but this was before she actually started using her magic. Plus same episode gave her a top 5 canon kill count which is ironically one of the only ones we got and that was Filly Trixie. Adult trixie was able to withstand gunshots and heal herself. bitch was a menace before she understood her powers
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>>41821028
>Trixie didn't try to push Twilight out of the way during the Flawless tricky cannon
they were plushes, how would they push each other
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>>41821032
Oh well you're right about that, but it was still a split second emergency evade technique that doesn't necessarily prove that Trixie was prioritizing Twilight's protection.
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>>41821040
>it was a split second emergency evade
Trixie clearly states that she was fully in control of the situation, at no point were they in danger.
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>>41821028
>That's not proof of her being "whipped". As far as we know Flawless might have been completely fine up until the point Luna appears.
We saw Flawless through out the fight, she was losing and her best tactic was unironically using the mindscape to rewind and steal whatever Trixie did before her. Unless you honestly believe Flawless was always in the lead despite whats been said by most, how Trixie acts and how she reacts to a Luna with no magic showing up, the reality is Trixie on her own was putting her on the back foot but as long as they were in the mindscape she could just keep rewinding, but if Trixie gets even an ounce of assistance the small gap closes far quicker. She was shaken first by Luna's conclusion of what she is, mere moments after that she tries to flee because she can't fight them. (1 mom with magic, 1 without and and alicorn with no magic)
>This is wrong because it's Flawless that first releases the meteor magic that Trixie reflects.
It's a trick Trixie could do because that one is just levitating rocks, something all stickheads can do.
>There is also no proof off this happening.
Literally what happens after Flawless steals Tricky canon and before Luna arrives Twi is down and Trixie is in front shielding her from Flawless's blast you non watcher. Trixie didn't move twi because there was no need, trixie already had her saved with her amazing illusionary skills
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is there gonna be a watch party?
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>>41821010
lol I forgot he admits to tracing show models for the first few episodes in this interview, yet tracefag never brings it up (probably because he's a low effort troll who didn't watch any content)
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>>41821058
he doesn't bring it up because it then disproves the rest of the argument since that statement means Tamers admits to stopping after a few episodes meaning it was a matter of reference and style match which results in how we get ponies looking now more consistently
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>>41821063
nah, he doesn't bring it up because he's fishing for (you)s never forget it
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>>41821049
yes
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>>41821072
I like the other anons post about luna's struggle being that the world rejects her >>41820606
Trixie is the first piece of the world that does accept her.
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>>41821049
I'm gonna watch it in the bathroom.
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Would tamers be brave enough to include THEM
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>>41818099
>>41820929
samefagging retard
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>>41821042
She just said that no pony can see through her tricks better than herself, which only implies that her doll replacement technique was something that wouldn't work on her.
>>41821045
First you said they were in a stalemate and now you are saying Trixie had her on the ropes. The rewind only happened once so we don't actually know what her gameplan would have been after that, but neither se nor Trixie showed any real signs of being weakened by the fight.
>she tries to flee
No she doesn't, she just tries to destroy the whole mind space to take all of them down with her. Rewatching the episode, I noticed that it's also possible that both Trixie and Twilight lost their magic when the world started breaking since Luna still has her magic when she enters and neither of them use magic after that. It's also worth noting that Luna explicitly states that Trixie and Twilight are two beings whose power pales in comparison to a true god.
>is just levitating rocks, something all stickheads can do
levitation is still magic even if it is basic, they also seem to be enchanted for more destructive power which is why they look like meteors. Also she was able to pop Pinkie and shoot the magic that Celestia parried so I think it's safe to assume she can use spells like any other unicorn.
>Literally what happens after Flawless steals Tricky canon and before Luna arrives Twi is down and Trixie is in front shielding her from Flawless's blast you non watcher
Yes, I'm sorry I forgot about this but it's still most likely a limited ability since Trixie can only carry so many dolls. Otherwise she would have just swapped with any object instead of preparing dolls specifically for the illusion. So again we don't know if she could have kept fighting like she had been.
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>>41821107
at no point do Twilight nor Trixie move in the setup for Flawless' tricky cannon, its a minor detail but one you pick back up on if you rewatch the scene. There's some animation of the mouth and eyes but that's easily written off as the illusion Trixie casts over the dolls.
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>>41821111
Their expressions change and they start moving when they get hit by the beam. If that was an actual detail then they should never move at all.
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>>41821118
their expressions change, they do not start moving.
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>>41821120
Their bodies are literally shaking. And the expressions changing at all means that it wasn't intentional.
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>>41821127
their bodies only shake after the tricky cannon hits them, not before. Turns out a bunch of magical energy that has force (enough to break bones, in fact) will make some plushes flap in the breeze
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>>41821131
Flawless's body shook the same way before her bones broke. I guess she was an illusion in that one moment. And like I said, the expressions changing already proves you wrong.
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>>41821107
>First you said they were in a stalemate and now you are saying Trixie had her on the ropes.
The fight ended before either pulled ahead, however Trixie was always in the lead as trixie knows all of her moves because the moves she's using belong to Trixie in the first place. From the hat Trick to the canon: Trixie saw through each because each of them are her tricks to begin with. It's why she didn't bother moving when Tricky canon was copied, she already saw through it from the moment flawless rewinded. Not to mention it can be assumed it happened given Trixie is uninjured and flawless is uninjured by the time luna arrives. Any injury like back with Tricky canon would just be undone and any disadvantage would have them swap places. Flawless never gets one over on Trixie but Trixie got several over on Flawless each time during their fight for the first section. The idea Trixie was suddenly losing after we left is just unrealistic based on Trixie's state by the end and her words early on.
>No she doesn't, she just tries to destroy the whole mind space to take all of them down with her.
That's her escape anon, she can't win and therefor will hide by evicting the only people that can actually do anything.
>I noticed that it's also possible that both Trixie and Twilight lost their magic when the world started breaking since Luna still has her magic when she enters and neither of them use magic after that.
Trixie stops because, at this point, she is still all illusion magic. The fact is anything she does flawless will copy and with luna present there's no further point outside of following the princess who acts immediately on stabbing her after Flawless turns off her magic. There is no logic behind the idea she lost it as she was using it and Flawless only ever states to stop Luna because it's her realm, a realm made from Trixie and Twilight's mind(also a percentage of Luna as a linking source)
> they also seem to be enchanted for more destructive power which is why they look like meteors.
This was more from Trixie than flawless as they didn't start blowing up like that till Trixie shot them back as shown they were now glowing with her magic instead of Flawless's. The pinkie pop and shot are all basic magic, things Trixie can and already does know how to do. Even the disappearing act was something Trixie shows she can do as this is still the same Trixie that came from G4 to begin with and while people don't like to talk about it her magic was still actually impressive in her episodes(in tamers even her illusion shit had rarity convinced)
>Yes, I'm sorry I forgot about this but it's still most likely a limited ability since Trixie can only carry so many dolls.
Trixie had nothing but her hat and cape on her at this moment as they had no bodies at this time as both exploded remember. those dolls were made from magic, also we know trixie is too poor for that as currently she was living from a tent due to the loss of her cart.
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>>41821138
>two things shake from the same force
>they must be the same thing
I guess people are trees because they both blow over in hurricanes.
>the expressions changing already proves you wrong.
>>41821111
>There's some animation of the mouth and eyes but that's easily written off as the illusion Trixie casts over the dolls.
if you're not going to bother reading what I say I'm not going to continue to waste my time entertaining your ideas.
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>>41821138
>>41821131
>>41821127
>>41821120
>>41821111
The thing your talking about is possibly just a slight error like the many frames in episodes and movies, as a relevant example: Flawless's neck as she is on the ground as Celestia reveals she's trying to blow her self up(her neck is flashing between the color of her fur and the color of her cape), some things are actual animation issues
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>>41821143
Why the fuck would Trixie make their expressions stationary only sometimes? Trixie made them look exactly like them including their movements and them being unchanging for like two frames isn't a detail.
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>>41821153
>their movements
they didn't move, we've been over this
>why did Trixie make her illusion accurate
because illusion is her fucking cutie mark talent?
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>>41821162
You are either retarded or baiting. If Trixie is able to change their expressions why would she intentionally not do that? There is no reason why the illusions should ever look like lifeless dolls if Trixie is capable of making them look real. So it can't be an intentional detail because it wouldn't make any sense.
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>>41821171
>if Trixie is able to change their expressions
yes, she did that
>why would she intentionally not do that
she didn't
>there is no reason why the illusions should ever look like lifeless dolls
proving to your opponent that they were completely outplayed is the endgame of a fakeout
You're wrong, you have no valid arguments, and I'm done proving you wrong on the same 20 frames of animation over and over again. If you want to feel like you won this fight you can have the last word if it makes you feel better.
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>rewatching DoTS
>I must insist you address this more directly, Nurse Redheart, as Cadance is my niece
>my niece
who did Celestia fuck
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>>41821174
>proving to your opponent that they were completely outplayed is the endgame of a fakeout
She already did that by faking her out. But you are clearly retarded because you are contradicting yourself by saying that the dolls are meant to look like dolls by not moving when their faces do move. So I'm glad the conversation is over.
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>>41821185
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>>41821204
gay copout try again
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>>41821140
>Trixie was always in the lead as trixie knows all of her moves because the moves she's using belong to Trixie in the first place
Flawless literally says that Trixie is using her own spells against her after Trixie reflects the meteors, which proves that Flawless has her own unique moves to use. The hat trick confuses me to be honest. It seems like Flawless uses it but it only benefits Trixie, so I assume it was Trixie who used it.
>Trixie got several over on Flawless
Trixie got one over on Flawless which was the original tricky cannon. And now that Flawless knows about it, it's unlikely that it will work on her again. In fact it might be dangerous for Trixie but I will get to that later.
>The idea Trixie was suddenly losing after we left is just unrealistic
True, but so is the idea that Flawless was suddenly losing. They were still evenly matched until Luna came along.
>she can't win and therefor will hide by evicting the only people that can actually do anything.
hide where? If she destroys the mind world then she will either die or get kicked out just like the other ponies.
>The fact is anything she does flawless will copy and with luna present there's no further point outside of following the princess who acts immediately on stabbing her after Flawless turns off her magic.
If she is powerful enough to turn off Luna's magic then why couldn't she also switch places with her like with tricky cannon? That wasn't just copying a magical ability, It was also swapping places with the physical form of Trixie. I think breaking the world turned off all magic and that's why Flawless couldn't swap places like she did before.
>This was more from Trixie than flawless as they didn't start blowing up like that till Trixie shot them back as shown they were now glowing with her magic instead of Flawless's
Flawless saying that Trixie copied her move implies it would have worked the same even if Trixie didn't reflect it.
>The pinkie pop
This is not basic magic, or at least I can't remember another time it was used.
>Trixie had nothing but her hat and cape on her at this moment as they had no bodies at this time as both exploded remember.
If Trixie can bring her clothes into the mind world there is no reason to believe she couldn't also bring her tools. The dolls could have been hidden in her cape, and they may have been homemade so she could still acquire them while poor. Even if it was just magic, the fact that she chose the form of dolls is too specific to be a coincidence. Why can't she just make perfect body doubles? This makes me think even her magic would have limitations. And if her ability to escape is limited then that would give Flawless a chance to truly win.
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TOMORROW I'M GOING TO EAT AN ENTIRE FUCKING CHEESECAKE IN CELEBRATION OF ALL THIS AMAZING MAREPUSS TAMERS IS DRAWING FOR ME AND ME SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE HE KNOWS I LOVE PONIES
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>Been trashing the gay stallion plot all week
>Go back and rewatched DoTS to rpepare myself for the new movie
>Bored as hell
>Flawless shows up and it's fun for 6 minutes
>Bored as hell again
>Sunset shimmer shows up, it's not as sun watching it a 2nd time.
>Movie didn't hold up as much as it did in my head
>Wonder if I have Tamers fatigue
>Go to watch Soarin&Braeburn
>30 minutes pass and I'm having so much fun I don't realize how much time I wasted
>Still excited to see flawless and Chryssi in the movie tomorrow but also wanna see more schizo soarin side drama
Fucking shit... who do I have to apologize to...
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^this person (if we can even call them that) is lying
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>>41821244
>Flawless literally says that Trixie is using her own spells against her after Trixie reflects the meteors, which proves that Flawless has her own unique moves to use. The hat trick confuses me to be honest. It seems like Flawless uses it but it only benefits Trixie, so I assume it was Trixie who used it.
Yes, because Trixie made the trick in the first place, Flawless says a lot of shit but as everyone else openly says she's still just a fake of Twi and Trixie, devoid of actual skills of her own only imitations(mainly from Trixie); Flawless calls it her spells but she also immediately called tricky canon her own thing and even replaced the image. Every spell she did is one Trixie already knows as she is only a mix of Twilight and Trixie, everything she has comes from them.
>Trixie got one over on Flawless which was the original tricky cannon.
She got one over her each time, from the failure of the stab, to the rocks, to the aforementioned had, Trixie was always several steps ahead because she knew every trick flawless had, flawless never had any advantage against her, only times where she could remove the damage or steal the move. Not once does Flawless actually take the lead of the battle and Trixie is shown as in control from start to finish. A factor that can be credited to the fact that they are also in the mindscape, a place where flawless has majority control enough to rewind time yet not enough to actually get the drop on Trixie even once.
>True, but so is the idea that Flawless was suddenly losing. They were still evenly matched until Luna came along.
As said its even not because of skill but because of location, Flawless lost back with Tricky canon but due to it being the mindscape she was able to rewrite it. We see what happens in the real world as a simple headshot killed her and she actually couldn't do much about it or heal for that matter the moment she broke the mindscape to try and get one over Luna.
>hide where?
The same place she has been since then: In the minds of Trixie or Twilight, the main purpose was to remove Luna, the only mare who can follow her where no one else can, in doing so she'd be free to hide and gain power just as she has been now as she openly says she can't fight either princess.
>If she is powerful enough to turn off Luna's magic then why couldn't she also switch places with her like with tricky cannon?
Its because she broke the one thing that gave her any advantage in the fight: the mindscape, the moment she shattered it her power over the space was virtually gone because that power only exist within the mindscape.
>at least I can't remember another time it was used.
Twi does it to celestia in the crossover, though hers in more visual.
>If Trixie can bring her clothes into the mind world there is no reason to believe she couldn't also bring her tools.
She didn't bring them, they are part of what was on her when she blew up.
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>>41821260
I just had the opposite experience with DoTS, but I rewatched it with the live chat on which was a blast since I was in a cytube watch party for it the first time.
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>>41821267
No I just realized DoTS is better upon first viewing because of all the twists, while S&B is funnier upon repeat viewings because every character fucking hates each other to an extreme level, like their asshole meter was like bumped up x200 for this movie specifically for some reason
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>>41821300
i'll take your word for it but i dipped as soon as i saw big mac in gamer stockings because i realized tamers didnt want to create a consistent story with the three faggots and just did whatever would have the most frame stills for other gays to clop to

like if thats what you like fine but at least be honest you just watch the gay stallions to masturbate especially with the absurd amount of fan service shots he makes of them without any "kino" moments like he's done with the females
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>>41821308
at least there are some hidden gems in the live chat
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>>41821308
>YhS_rEtTuLf
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>>41821330
>The asses are FAT in that fucking show
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>>41821269
>she also immediately called tricky canon her own thing and even replaced the image
She never claimed the move was her own here, and tricky cannon's visuals are probably based on whoever is using it. Otherwise Flawless' cannon should have still had Trixie's design on it to match the reflection.
>she is only a mix of Twilight and Trixie, everything she has comes from them
This is true only to a certain extent. Flawless is a combination of Twilight and Trixie but, as with most things, combinations form their own unique aspects. For example, why does Flawless wear a tophat? If she was truly just copying Twilight and Trixie then she should only wear the same clothes of the one that actually wears clothes. But Twilight mixed with Trixie creates something new, a tophat. Also, she is a real unicorn and as far as we know their is nothing that limits her from creating or learning new spells that don't belong to her mothers, just like any other unicorn. So as far as I'm concerned the meteor attack is her own because there is not nearly enough evidence to say that it's Trixie's move.
>She got one over her each time
>Not once does Flawless actually take the lead of the battle
Flawless was the only one moving the battle along with the exception of the first tricky cannon. Flawless was on the offensive the entire time before that and all of Trixie's moves were defensive. And the only move that actually had an effect on Flawless was the tricky cannon. If you are saying that Trixie planned everything from the start, then that means she also planned for Twilight to get kicked while Flawless was dodging the reflected meteors.
>Flawless lost back with Tricky canon but due to it being the mindscape she was able to rewrite it
>We see what happens in the real world as a simple headshot killed her and she actually couldn't do much about it or heal
We don't know if Flawless can only use her reflection powers in the mind world. I would lean toward saying she can use them in the real world as well considering the same effect is used when she emerges from the mind world but it's too early to say. And she was obviously weak enough that she didn't believe she could win against all those ponies at once even if she did attempt to survive. But she still had enough power inside her to kill them all. Celestia also died to a headshot so I wouldn't say it was a matter of weakness to die that way. And we don't know how powerful Sunset and Rarity are, so I don't think it's right to use them as a measure for power.
>In the minds of Trixie or Twilight
She still entered the minds of Trixie and Twilight after being killed, so what would be the purpose of trying to escape? It seems like she was pretty clearly trying to take them with her.
> the mindscape
If shattering the mindscape removed her and Luna's power it should have done the same to Trixie and Twi.
>they are part of what was on her when she blew up
Why couldn't the dolls also be on her in her cape like I said?
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>>41821308
I just realized that with the mares, every time there's a huge sexy image, it's immediately followed by something genuinely serious and emotional. With the stallions, every sexy image is followed by the exact same scene we've seen before with them ("I'm sad," "I'm mad," "I'm emotionally aloof," "I love you," "I don't believe you," "Rape," "Unearned music video scene," "Braeburn in rainbow socks.")
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>>41821373
so far the best scene by far is the garage sale scene and its not even good on its own, its just funny because it shines a light on the actual show glossing over Twilight being an autistic fuck and never learning over her lesson
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>>41821381
multiple people in live chat asking "how long left in this movie" lmao still 30 minutes
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>>41821368
>tricky cannon's visuals
It was made by Trixie, it looks like her because it was her move and Flawless copied it so it looks the same, she is unoriginal. It's why Trixie calls her a copy cat and flat out admits she sees through all of her tricks because they are Trixie's to begin with. The canon only exist because Trixie made it
>why does Flawless wear a tophat?
Because Trixie actually does have one as shown in the ED Diamond where Trixie is shown hauling a small red wagon with a tophat. Flawless' hat comes from Trixie. Her appearance is a mix of both rather than either or and her voice is mostly twilight with a slight pitch. All parts of her don't make a whole as they are spliced from sources beyond. Even her personality is not her own as her ego comes from Trixie while her mentality and complexes come from Twilight. She has no new aspects, just two extremes that run in the same line, it's why she isn't perfect and why she couldn't actually beat Trixie.
>Flawless was the only one moving the battle along with the exception of the first tricky cannon.
Flawless moved but at no point was she in control, from the first move she made Trixie was already ahead, before we cut away Trixie is still doing just fine and is still leading her on. Flawless was never able to do anything to actually push her, Trixie's moves weren't defensive, they were direct counters because every trick she used was something Trixie knew from the start. Trixie lays it out flat: She saw though everything because they are her tricks to begin with. Tricky canon was the only time Trixie ever actually swung on her and she crumbled and needed to rewind because she lost at the first sign of real resistance to Trixie and then stole it but instantly failed to actually land it as Trixie knows her trick best and easily moved both herself and Twilight out of the way and left flawless with only an illusion. Trixie was always steps ahead, she didn't need to push because there was no reason to do so when the pace of the battle was in the palm of her hoof.
>We don't know if Flawless can only use her reflection powers in the mind world.
She has no reflection powers, just the powers that make up the sum of half of Trixie and all of twilight(Flawless lack's trixie's dual magic), her powers were very low all things considered as her fight with Trixie is just a match of who's illusions are better which didn't work in her favor and her only actual attacks are on those beneath twilight herself(the other 5); her nuke was not about what power she had but the simple fact that she was releasing the max amount unfiltered something that arguably anyone could do and if it were Twilight or Trixie the result would be the same.
>She still entered the minds
She hid in Twi's mind, this is mainly due to Trixie and twi fucking as they were still connected and still unstable. The proximity to her corpse allowed her to jump ship

The dolls don't exist anywhere else, that is the simple fact
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>>41821373
>I just realized
>is followed by the exact same scene we've seen before
Wow. Congratulations for pointing that out. It's almost like the message of the whole fucking story was the cycle of abuse. Not like Big Mac said that exact same thing in the movie.
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>>41821424
some retarded kindergarten meta-message like "abuse is bad" doesn't save a story that's a boring 77 minute long video essay with like 3 minutes of cool fight scenes, half or more of which doesn't even happen
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>>41821424
that's not what the cycle of abuse is though. the cycle of abuse would be braeburn going on to abuse soarin after being abused by big mac.
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>>41821424
Using that image with your retarded post should be a bannable offense. This isn't about the "cycle of abuse", and it's nonsensical to believe that's the case if no one involved with it is trying to stop it. It's only ryona fetish pornography. Either be honest about what you're watching, or don't post.
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>>41821415
>Because Trixie actually does have one as shown in the ED Diamond
FUCK I can't write out another post right now but I'm fucking pissed that I used that as an example when there is an explanation.
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>>41821434
well technically he did hospitalize him but past that he quite frankly does abuse Soarin early on in their relationship as he openly makes him wear a big mac costume, pretty much ignores his every need and tries to turn him into a new big mac, liberally asked horse reddit for permission to cheat and then got big mac to hit him with a Big mac punch as well as shaming him for how he referred to their relationship.

Can't forget that he technically goes back to big mac and then leads him on while still being fairly obvious that he still wants soarin.

Breaburn abuse is all about playing victim.
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>>41821445
Braeburn isn't playing a victim, Braeburn is the victim. I know most Tamers fans are retards, but try not to be one of them.
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>>41821447
>he thinks he isn't a retard
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>>41821440
Flawless is unoriginal but that's why she's original anon, she's the worst parts of two people and instead of having the halves that allow them, mainly trixie, to show genuine regret, care, or empathy she is free of the mere burden that is a conscious beyond self fulfillment. She is the mare in the mirror as she reflects what amount to what she saw as the true self of both, the perfect combination. Something that everyone, even the two she reflects attest is just why she's imperfect: She's missed the point of either and only ended up with shards of the result; it was the the reality that shattered the glass for her.
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>>41821447
>Braeburn is the victim
>Literally tries to eat peanuts he knows he's allergic to and was going to use pinkie to do it
>He knew Soarin would stop him if he was up front about it
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>>41821459
Braeburn being abused so badly means that he thinks the only time he deserves attention is when he's hurting. That's what makes him the victim. Why are you blaming him for tragedies that were forced upon him when he's innocent?
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>>41821411
>Okay, am I not allowed to be racist toward my own wife?
best quote of the episode
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>>41821465
The fuck are you lying for, the entire start of his arc was that he realized the abuse of big mac sucked and found something better after realizing there was more to the world with Soarin, then immediately he tries to turn Soarin into a new big mac and makes him uncomfortable at nearly every turn or openly acts like Soarin isn't giving up basically all the things he worked for just to live with him. The moment his cousin shows up he openly hoped that Big mac would rape him, his unironic choice of words, he was thirsting for the abuse after finding out Soarin wouldn't do it and before that we see their entire sexlife is Breaburn forcing Soarin to try and be overly rough with him.

Breaburn chooses what he wants out of shit like this, don't make excuses when he was given and out and still chose the same thing. He is subpony trash who will do anything wrong and act surprised when bad things happen. It's the entire point of the peanut joke, he knows it's gonna kill him and he still wanted to do it.
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yeah damn S&B really aged poorly, and I wasn't a huge fan of it to begin with. Watching it back to back with DoTS was eye opening, it felt like watching 4 movies and 3 of them were Soarin and Braeburn dragging on and on, and I liked and still like the other fag episodes. I get why it was made but damn this should have been like three B plots to three other episodes instead of its own exposition dump
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>>41821487
>>41821489
Just admit you're homophobes and stop posting.
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>>41821489
>yeah damn S&B really aged poorly
It released poorly, my nigga
Just check the polls; it's the worst of the MLP episodes by far and among the worst tamers has ever released. It's not because of the gay faggots; it was just a bad episode.
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>>41821492
Get the fuck off horse 4chan Breaburn,
>>41821494
That has a lot to do with the fact most people didn't want Breaburn to actually get shit, some people were even rooting for Big Mac to swoop Soarin off his hooves
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>>41821492
>and I liked the other fag episodes
just admit you're illiterate and stop posting
>>41821494
This is fair. It was way too serious for way too much of the run time and that's just not right for tamers. Hearth's Warming in Manehattan, Hot Pot Party, and Arson were all really good episodes because they still had that mix of funny and serious, but I can honestly say I only laughed twice rewatching S&B and that's unacceptable for an hour and seventeen minutes of tamers content
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>>41821492
'Phobe' implies irrational fear, not fatigue as Anon said. There's nothing the matter with the plotline itself, it just needed better pacing.
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>>41821492
I'm interested in seeing how long this bait will work
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>>41821499
if Soarin and Braeburn played out as the B plot to DoTS, Starsong and Toola Roola and G5 (or any three episodes that didn't already star the trio) it would have been fine but god damn did it just drag
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>>41821507
I wouldn't have put it into DoTS, it would have been way too jarring, but the other ones would have worked as comparable plots to mix things up.
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>>41821518
yeah DoTS is a bad example because it had perfect pacing on its own, but S&B cut down to the first third of the current S&B with a B plot of something else maybe. idk, it needed to be split up because I was with everyone in live chat asking when it was going to end by the time the dream sequence started and chains started flying
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>>41821518
>>41821523
It shouldn't even exist. It's boring at best and annoying at worst. It doesn't contribute anything positive. There's no joy or hope. Everything that's deemed "good" about it is a falsehood, a saccharine lie carefully stated to create the illusion of emotional catharsis.

If anything about S&B is autobiographical, even by a fraction, then I hope to God Tamers is getting the psychiatric help he needs. These episodes aren't someone letting go of their demons. These episodes are someone spreading evil itself so others hurt just as bad they do.
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>>41821530
It's a cartoon, bro
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>>41821530
lol whatever
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>>41821530
I don't agree with this. I think the story being told needed to be told, I just think it was told poorly for the medium in which it was presented. I believe in tamers building up a story involving them, and again, I think the other episodes with them are fantastic even though I don't personally identify with any of the characters because I'm not an old virgin or a confused faggot.
This one was just a huge miss in its pacing and humor, fix either one of those by injecting better pacing or better humor and it would have been fine. Soarin is necessary to a later plot for sure and his story does need to be told
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>Soarin is posting now
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I just think they're cute
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>>41821581
He's trying too hard to be anime. I like old men with depression and ED
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>trying too hard
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Shining is for the newly gays. He's who they think they want when they're still in the "pretending to be bi" phase(coincidentally he is currently in that phase), Soarin is for when it's time to settle for a life partner
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>Less than 24 hours until absolute cinema.
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>>41821634
Attention all animatic artists:
I am currently accepting you creating a parody of the openings of:
>Mirai Nikki
>Deadman Wonderland
>Death Parade
using Flawless Sparklemoon. I will not give you financial compensation. You should have been smarter and done this sooner. It is your fault I will not be paying you.

Go do it, now.
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What time is the live premiere? I don't wanna oversleep like last time.
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>>41819673
>Rainbowshine pose
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>>41821646
COUNTEROFFER
okane ga nai using braeburn and soarin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQYMCjhouJs
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>>41818099
>Literally Tamers: Soarin, Braeburn and Big Mac's story is not supposed to be understood. It's supposed to be weird, uncomfortable, and boring at times. They are the most gray characters. They are all the villains and victims of each others stories. If some scenes of them feel like repeats or feel like a slog to get through that is the whole point because thats how the characters themselves are feeling. They all exhausted and just want it to end. It's literally a story about how all 3 of them are repeating the same mistakes on each other in an endless cycle
>You for some reason in every single Tamers thread at least 10 times: No, I need a story that's spoon-fed, action-packed, and devoid of nuance! Subtext? Character complexity? I need shit with no thinking required!
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>>41821698
It would be admittedly kino if Tamers made an Equestria girls style Soarburn ending of this
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>>41821700
You used meme arrows wrong.

Have you ever played Fallout: New Vegas? There's a character in the add-on Lonesome Road named Ulysses. Ulysses is largely criticized because he talks too much, he repeats himself, and it sounds like he's bitching about nothing. What makes him special, however, is that he's repeating himself because he's an uneducated tribal walk-the-wasteland fuck who is angry because he doesn't have the ability to tell others to break the cycle that started the Fallout universe in the first place. He doesn't have the strength, until he finds a nuke, and he doesn't have the education to articulate his thoughts.

Throughout Lonesome Road, the main character, the Courier, can find Ulysses' voice tapes that he abandoned. The tapes are him repeating himself, trying to express himself, and getting so frustrated with himself he threw them away. He ultimately thought his ideas were worthless and unusable. If the Courier finds all of his tapes, then the Courier can repeat back to Ulysses what Ulysses is trying to express. Ulysses learns that he can spread his message without using a nuke, and stands down.

Alternatively, the Courier can find all of the upgrades for a machine from the Old World. In doing so, the Courier learns that what Ulysses is fighting for is tainted at its core. Ulysses, being uneducated, didn't realize that he was espousing a philosophy that already existed in the Old World, despite trying to formulate a new belief for a New World. Realizing that he is wrong in what he's doing, he stands down.

Yet another alternative is a Courier who stands for something, anything, and is able to convince Ulysses that maybe something old isn't something that should be abandoned. Maybe people can learn from their mistakes. The tagline for Fallout is, "War, war never changes," but if Ulysses lives, he accepts that, "If war doesn't change, then men must change." With that, he stands down.

Or, if the Courier doesn't care, he can just kill Ulysses and be done with it, because that nigger was so fucking annoying repeating himself all the goddamn time.

When I am complaining about the gay stallions repeating themselves, I'm complaining because they aren't growing or changing. I can see through the milquetoast facade of a family photo and an AMV ending. Their relationships aren't complicated. The characters are over-complicating their own lives. I scream into the ether telling them to go their separate ways and find happiness untainted, yet it falls on deaf ears, because of faggots like you.

Revel in your suffering. Say that Tamers has your back. Post whatever you want. The moment any of those three are happy is the moment you will turn on them, because you don't like seeing love. You love seeing them in perpetual emotional agony like the sick fuck that you are.

I may hate faggots, but I still want them to be happy. This polycule isn't it, chief.
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>>41820030
Anyone hosting a watchparty
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>>41821698
is this an anime about a dude getting buttfucked because he's poor
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>CADENCE movie
>343 posts
>CTRL-F
>Trixie: 162 results
>Flawless: 96 results
>Luna: 57 results
>Twilight: 53 results
>Celestia: 32 results
>Cadence: 0 results
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>>41821737
Yeah in my bathroom.
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>>41821743
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LB2Huuy9h8
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>>41821743
>Braeburn, Soarin, and Big Mac
>not even in the movie
>67 resullts
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>>41821746
Still hands down the best song to come out of MLP, 14 years running and nothing comes close.
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>>41821781
that isn't derby racers
or any of the dazzlings songs for that matter
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>>41821784
>eqg mention
Bait post.
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>>41821797
that wasn't nice ;^) bye-bye!!
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I want more g5 ponies soon
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peasants, swerve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eARNkyFmT8
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>>41821815
I just want more Izzy being cute by failing to be funny.
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>>41821824
Same bro
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>>41821815
he changed the title and thumbnail of the G% video back to the original bait one lol those characters are POISON to this franchise
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>>41821815
G5 is so bad that Sunny would rather play rock'n'roll and live in the 90s
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>>41821743
it's spelled Candice you retard
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>>41821878
it's spell cadence like the music thing
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>>41821815
They are the closest to the old SU gang
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>>41821878
>>41821880
Her name is Cadenza!
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>>41821880
CANDICE DICK FIT IN YO MOUTH BITCH
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>>41821743
>no pony cares about the straight princess
I mean, yeah. I'm more interested in the yuri incest between Luna and Celestia + evil yuri love spawn Flawless



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