>boring job>boring episodes >very few voice lines past Season 1 because even her creators got tired of her>not involved in any meaningful finale or episodes >a stereotype of a stereotype >zero nuance Was this non-character checklist trope doomed or were the writers at fault?
>>41820343>writers at fault?
>>41820343She is busy being my wife, leave her alone
She absolutely could've been treated better, it just came down to what the writers prioritized and in the post-Faust era she wasn't one of those things.
>>41820343you are too stupid to appreciate AJ
>>41820343I watched three seasons and let's say a half and I loved AJ throughout. What's the issue? Or does it come up later on?
Just not true. Lots more Applejack-focused episodes than there are for Rarity. also this >>41820374
>>41820343>can't create an exciting character outside of their own experienceWriters were at fault.
>>41820343Applejack is my least favorite M6 but half of what you said about her isn't true. She had some good episodes and you can work with her. But I think to really get into Applejack you have to be American with a specific mindset.
>>41820397>>can't create an exciting character outside of their own experienceNo one can do that. All the best renowned writers of history are either people who wrote about the specific things they knew a lot about, or people who led an exciting lifestyle where throughout their life they'd go to war, spend time in jail, go through three divorses, poverty and some form of depression, and then pour their musings on their rich life experience onto the paper.
>>41820414>No one can do that.No one can operate on a human heart but there's people who can. No one can write exciting characters outside of their own experience but there's writing courses. Why work in a field when you don't take the necessary education is beyond me.
>>41820421There are millions of writing courses out there and not one unifying authority that can tell you which courses are any good.Also, I imagine everyone who wrote for MLP went through some kind of formal education adjacent to writing.
>>41820433We got 10/10 AJ episodes in seasons 1 and 2 first directed and later supervised by an actual Jewess. If a tribe of people culturally hateful of rural work can write a compelling rural character there's a skill issue with modern writers.
>>41820444I wouldn't call Applebucking Season or Look Before You Sleep 10/10. I really like Fall Weather Friends though, but this just goes to show how even our two sets of standards are different, to not even speak of the different standards of every person involved in creating every writer course ever.
>>41820450Sorry bro, I got trips. It's like drawing you as the Söyjak and me as the chad.
>>41820343Bait, forced meme, and a sprinkling of unspoken Twifaggotry.
>>41820457Everyone has trips these days! Let me make this clear. My accomplishment is my own, you're chained to me and this time \'m not going to stop gathering magic until you can't mathematically cancel this idiocy without a video cassette recorder and the twenty eighteen wizards of the coast guidebook. Oh Dash' break my soul again!Blah blah blah blah blah pesent the gold apple for teacher Dashie!
I like how something like King of the Hill can make Southerners interesting but all AJ is: >apples>hyuck southernisms >apples apples>voice gets deeper like a man They should have just written her out, say she ran away or had to sell the farm or she died of food poisoning or got eaten by panthers or something.
>>41820414plenty of great authors lived boring fucking lives. by all evidence shakespeare did
>>41820545AJ is the fandom not realizing the elements represent Repub fiefdom. You'd suppose if twilight or starlight wanted to alter history they'd divert them away from the old castle since there were obviously a diff set of magical items waiting. I JUST ACCEPT YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE.Fimfic spoilers!
>>41820559Shakespeare also didn't write his own plays
>>41820545I like how something like Madoka Magica can make magical girls interesting but all Twilight is:>books>akshually nerdisms >books books>body gets taller like a man They should have just written her out, say she flew away or had to sell the library or she died of hayburger poisoning or got disintegrated by Glimmer or something.
>>41820343angeljackI'll take the baitI think you might be able to recognize her importance if you see her as the M6 interface to the Apple family.The Apples were a key part in many memorable episodes, and without applejack there would be no connection with the show.She performs a very important role, even if you find her boring. AJ is the center of the Venn diagram between the M6 and the Apple family.Also she's best ponyFuck you OP
>>41820343She was the DEI before it became a thing. She was doomed to fail.
>>41820343Of all the ponies with their crazy jobs and quirks, it's nice to have a down-to-earth, as normal as you can get pony
>>41821392Should've been a background pony then. Waste of a slot for a main character.
>>41821553Applejack was never a main character. If you want an example of a farmhand type person who was a main character with a fraction of the screentime that would be Samwise Gamgee. AJ feels more like a Simpsons background OC like Comic Book Guy or Dr. Nick.
ITT: ponkfags, dashfags, flutterfags, and rarifags pretend they're not all irrelevant side hoes to the main character.
>>41820357That implies you agree with OP though
>Boring episodesJust gonna ignore Applebuck Season, Look before you Sleep, Fall Weather Friends, Super Cider Squeezy 6000, and that’s just the ones from the canon seasons
>>41821553This >>41821572. There's a line between main characters and background pony. Applejack is the line. Her ass is big enough to go over both boundaries
Ponyville is known all across Equestria for its apples in the show bible, making Applejack and the Apple family one of its most important elements.
>>41822339Of the town, not the showThe monarch of Saddle Arabia is really important to the country, but irrelevant to the show
>>41822379The show revolves mostly around the town. Eat shit.
>>41821623Twilight is so cool...
>>41821572>Applejack was never a main character>AJ feels more like a Simpsons backgro-ACKIf anyone is a background pony, then Fluttershy is one with her only having a speaking role in 65.6% of the episodes. Applejack has the second highest speaking role amount after Twilight with 73.8%. Get BUCKED!
>>4182244718.1% of FIM just wasted like that...
>>41822447>writing a one like a lambdathe fag who wrote that needs to kill himself
She needed a farting joke. I refuse to believe a dirty farmgirl like her wouldn’t let one rip especially to piss off somepony like Rarity.
>>41822487That'd be me then. haha hope you were kidding lol
>>41820343>were the writers at faultThey wrote a story about Twilight going to the farm and finding it inefficient in some ways despite being wholly functional and the actual literal solution according to the show was no joke "Just get a bunch of new stuff and stop being so inefficient silly farmers!"It takes a certain level of stupid to come up with that plot. A certain level of disconnect from how any real world applications may work to follow through with it. A complete and total lack of understanding of stuff actually costing money with long term consequences for taking too much in order to put it to paper, and just the most braindead idiots to ever try writing color horses to make sure it wasn't even an okay episode on its own. They failed at spa hijinks with a country pony, that's just how plain bad they are at everything.Pretty much any current media has shown that even if you hand these dipshits established characters who have survived literal decades on their characterization and name alone with some of the best stories to understand them, the just plain aren't capable of making it work. This 'Non character' could've been part of some amazing stories if they'd had anyone around who could actually write them instead of nepobabies.
>>41822527Pop media is about stereotypes. The stereotype is that farmers are old-fashioned and technologically backwards. That's it.
>>41822519no it looks like ass, especially at the bottom at 81.9%, or that 19 that looks like Λg
>>41822555Applejack kicks trees and nearly kills herself trying to win some imaginary contest and ends up fainting after realizing she still had a shitton of trees to pick. Then she constantly states how the farm is struggling. Something is clearly not working enough for them and its not technology but a refusal to adapt to change. Applejack is just anti-intellectual. She would reject medicine if it meant besmirching some 20000000 year old Apple Family tradition. If she saw actual, human technology that made tilling the land and harvesting apples better, she would probably burn it and you to the ground.
>>41822627Only flanderized Applejack would do that
>>41822654Her debut episode is rejecting help for weeks until shes on deaths door. Then she does it more times in S1 and S2 and so on. She does it during Winter Wrap Up and again and again. Shes just very stubborn and backwards. Its like Europeans having gunpowder, metallurgy and ships while most of North America is still using spears to kill bison.
>>41822447Applejack is probably the pony that we have seen the most in every different stage of life, from baby, to a filly, to teen, mare and an older mare, just needed to see her as mother and granny and the cycle would be complete, she's for real one of the most prominent of the M6
>>41822627>AJ makes a risky bet that she can quadruple her workload after her workhorse brother is too injured to work. She's clearly anti-change.>A business where living crops and livestock are gambled at the mercy of mother nature and supply and demand should never see a year of struggle.>Muh superior John Deer chinesium super computers locking out mechanically inclined farmers from repairing their own machines. Muh illegal mexican apple picking efficiency.>>41822667>Twilight fucks up a simple snow plow job, angering the town. Applejack is to blame.
>>41822627Her refusing help had nothing to do with being backwards. That's just something you've projected onto her because you have zero ability to understand characters as anything more than their stereotypes.
>>41823307>refusing help leading to sleep deprivation, leading to mental inhibition and overextending yourself which causes chaos all over Ponyville and also hurts efficiency>not backwards
>>41822743Also, like, Winter Wrap Up is a Ponyville wide tradition, not something AJ made up. And we even see AJ learn from her mistakes, that's literally why we got the best letter to Celestia, she didn't learn anything, she was right all along cuz she already learned her lesson. Even in the episode that had her too set in her ways, also had her solve another problem by fixing a damn valve with her tools, thanks to having a fresh outlook to the issue which she learns to apply with her own problems.
>>41820343>applejACK
>>41822627Applebuck Season was so stupid.A farmgirl, who worked on a farm her entire life, has no idea what the workload of harvesting apples actually is. That would be understandable if it was her first day or maybe first week on the job. But there's no excuse for someone who supposedly lives and breaths apples everyday. There's also the fact it dumbed down her friends by making them somehow not realize something is obviously wrong with Applejack. Applejack then poisons the town with worms and receives no consequences for that.Shit-tier episode.
>>41823446It feels like an episode for a version of FiM that was for an even younger audience, like TYT is.
>>41823446>>41823455What's up with these weird disingenuous arguments?
>>41823459>no argument
>>41820364This. There's a lot to her character (and every character really) that was never explored because the nu-writers either didn't watch the show or didn't care about its established lore and character development to continue to develop it in a meaningful way>>41820374Also this
>>41823446She knows what the workload is she just chooses to take it on herself because BM got injured. Since Granny Smith and Apple Bloom do nothing as far as we see that leaves AJ. Which is kinda fucked in many ways because again, all of her friends besides Twiggy can see something is off. I can buy her completely forgetting the other half of the farm that needed to be harvested because sleep deprivation is a bitch and can inhibit your cognition. But her letting it get that far was bad. Intentionally killing yourself to prove a point is what made her look foolish. And the worst part is the original script was going to say she got brain damage.
>>41823480>And the worst part is the original script was going to say she got brain damage.Oh yeah, it was applebonk season originally, I think Faust wanted the show to be way more comedic initially
>>41823488>I think Faust wanted the show to be way more comedic initiallyThat would make sense with her previous works. It's funny, the first couple of seasons were essentially a compromise that nobody involved truly wanted to make and yet they're still adored by fans.
Lesson Zero was so stupid.A student, who studied under Celestia her entire life, has no idea what the consequences of being tardy actually is. That would be understandable if it was her first day or maybe first week at school. But there's no excuse for someone who supposedly lives and breaths homework everyday. There's also the fact it dumbed down her friends by making them somehow not realize something is obviously wrong with Twilight. Twilight then brain washes the town with a doll and receives no consequences for that.Shit-tier episode.
>>41823607true
>>41820343You forgor>constantly says how important family and its values are
>>41823607Disheveled mares are so cute
>>41821623don't be a faggot, twifag
>>41820343She's still better than Starlight Glimmer
>>41823737Damn, you know things are serious when she's saying it.
>>41823607The writing for that episode is just as retarded, thanks captain obvious.
Party Of One was so stupid.A party planner, who threw parties her entire life, has no idea that today was her birthday. That would be understandable if it was her first party or maybe she never celebrated her own birthday before. But there's no excuse for someone who supposedly lives and breaths parties. There's also the fact it dumbed down her friends by making them somehow not realize something is obviously wrong with Pinkie Pie. Pinkie then harasses a baby dragon, sits on Rainbow's face, and snaps at her friends, and receives no consequences for that.Shit-tier episode.
>>41824220>A party planner, who threw parties her entire life, has no idea that today was her birthday. That would be understandable if it was her first party or maybe she never celebrated her own birthday before. But there's no excuse for someone who supposedly lives and breaths parties.Makes sense up to this point. The old writers really loved this lazy formula. Party of One sadly flanderized the shit out of Pinkie.
>when you realize going to Equestria is like stepping into a mental institution but with plush mickey mouse tier characters instead
>>41824220>>41824453Shitposting like this is just making you look petty and autistic.
>>41824462Not even trying to counteract that Anon's argument probably solidifies his statement.
>>41824461You didn't realize that already? Twilight's right in the first episode, they're all crazy. But they're also fun.
>>41824461I already feel my mental state deteriorating, so I'd fit right in.
>>41820343She's also a useless mudpony.
>>41825956Mudponies aren't useless, somebody has to do all the menial work unicorns and pegasi don't want to
>>41826217Isn’t this the argument for cheap immigrant labour?
>>41826588It is, but mudponies are natives of Equestria
>>41825956, Twilight said after 5 hours of charging up her spell.
>>41825956Twilight couldve did this at night, lied and made it seem like AJ kicked them all down
>>41820343>writersWoke writers deemed her "problematic"No joke.
>>41827174Imagine just being a simple country girl is enough to make western (((women))) seethe. I wish I had that power.
>>41827120Twilight could have launched an entire field of fruit at Trixie in Magic Duel, or Starlight when she was running away, or Tempest.
>>41820343>>41822447Fluttershy was more boring than AJ.
>>41825956Rarity, quite a competent and capable unicorn, can only do a single tree at once. Using Twilight as an argument isn't meaningful. Celestia could come out and harvest and regrow the entire town's orchards and fields a hundred times over in a day. Does that make Twilight useless?
>>41828946Celestia would trip on a feather from a pillow falling face first into the ground.
>>41829214That's how she does a hundred harvests in a day? She sure has a funny way of doing magic. Guess I shouldn't question it.
>>41825956You take that back
