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Watch it here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=I29MjY4cwLA&ab_channel=Tamers12345

I don’t know anything about this myself, but I saw the previous thread was almost past max posts.
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>>41826313
>Stupid phoneposter
>Idiot flaggot
>Tamers shit
STEEEEEE-RIKE 3 YER OUT
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>>41826313
Fuck off gollynigger
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>>41826322
Hey, I don’t actually know what Tamers is, really; I just wanted to be the one to make the thread that was already going to be made!

>>41826323
No.
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Apologize
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>>41826313
>Making the new thread on page 2
Holy fucking newfag, batman.
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>>41826313
don't worry faggot OP, the first 30 messages or so of every tamers thread is insulting OP
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>>41826367
Oh, good. Thank you. :3
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Her name is WHAT now?
>Black
>Gypsy
>Armor
>Shining Armor's Gypsy
>Gypsy's Armor
>Black Armor
>Black Gypsy (Redundant).
King Sombra approves.

Cadence about to go full Frollo(AGAIN):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc7ihCVl1pU&ab_channel=LenaHyena
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>>41826426
Kill yourself.
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>Why does Vogelfag hate Trixie & Pinkie so much in particular?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRxZtw5LgW0&ab_channel=CHAOSCHAOS
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I haven't watched any Tamers but I see it everywhere and I'm starting to get major FOMO
Should I jump on the ride?
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>>41826444
I doubt it. Seems lame to me, DESU.
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>>41826444
Yes, but be aware that there's actual malicious actors spamming when true Tamers fans aren't trying to annoy /mlp/. Everyone who actually cares about what he's doing knows we're just visitors here.
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>>41826444
No. You already missed the peak, its been downhill for a while.
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what if twilight's last spell was more of an age up and it transposed their births earlier in the timeline
so apple bloom is now just applejack's younger sister instead of a baby and scoot and sweetie are now the same ponies as their g3 counterparts like dash and pinkie
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>>41826449
What the fuck?! I swear to Fuck, I typed “DESU,” not “DESU.” I’m not even a weeb.
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>>41826472
Oh. I’m a fag? :(
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>>41826472
How new are you?
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They're doing it on purpose to bump their own thread, stop being a moron that falls for obvious bait. Just report them for low-quality and move on.
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>>41826494
Not THAT new. Two-ish years. I’ve been lurking for forever, though. This is the only board I’m on, though.
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>>41826503
Lurk some more until you're 18
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>>41826313
Tamers won again
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>>41826530
I’m 30.
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>>41826458
Why did he made them almost legal?
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>>41826565
i don't speak discord tranny, what is this image conveying?
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>>41826548
>some youtube janny had to watch the entire video frame by frame
I hope it was their first experience with Tamers
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>>41826565
What are we supposed to do with this infomation?
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>>41826553
Tamers is bitching out despite including fillyphilia in his other videos, especially his Sonic Underground ones.
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>>41826333
Tamers need to keep the abuse drama scenes for the stallions only. While most relationships in tamers are abusive to be fair, Braeburn and soarin's story was done expertly well that it's a waste of time to try and replicate it.
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>>41826576
You're supposed to jerk off anon for being a super sleuth and uncovering this bombshell of widely known, publicly available information
Just look at that impeccable collage work, he's clearly very proud of himself and his amazing discovery
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I don't think I've ever witnessed Chrysalis having a harder moment in canon or fanon over 12 entire years than in these two fucking minutes, holy fuck
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>>41826601
she had a harder time about two minutes later if you know what i mean LMAO
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>>41826605
>shattered armor
You mad cunt!
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>>41826605
What the fuck is this
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>>41826614
It's called sex
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>>41826614
It's called rape
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Tamers12345 Awards: Year of the Horse Edition

Hi everyone, it’s that time of the year again. I am running the third annual Tamers12345 Awards. The purpose of these polls is to assess the preferences of Tamers12345 fans throughout the year. Please vote using the below links. Note some polls allow for more than one vote to be cast. The polls will be ran until the end of February. I will post these in /mlp/ threads and the occasional SU threads on /co/ and /v/. If you see rogue threads on /v/ or /co/ you can post this for them if you are interested. Let me know if the polls have any errors.

Best Main (Mane?) Cast Character of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/w4nWW8EXdnA

Best Ship of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/2ayLQ83BVn4

Best Feature Length Episode of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/eJnvV425xnv

Best AMV / Music Squence of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/XOgOV4970n3

Best New Character of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4VNvAga

Most Tragic Death of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/LVyK2D3MKZ0

Most Epic Battle of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/poy9kPzpAgJ

Most Wholesome Moment of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/NMnQNpvAwg6

Best Fart of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/6QnMQp94bne

Best Fan Service of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/3RnYX3m4Aye

Best Florabuse of 2024
https://strawpoll.com/7rnzVLqRYnO

GR15 Opinion Survey
https://strawpoll.com/kjn1DYJ4eyQ
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>>41826614
It's called cuddling
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>>41826313
We honestly need a few slice of life and comedy episodes to detox from all the lore and action stuff. I haven't really laughed much since the bowling episode.
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>>41826553
Some ponies try to make fillies and colts seem like they're grown-up mares and stallions in inappropriate ways. This is wrong because fillies and colts are still learning in school and growing, and it's not right to treat them like they're older than they are.

It's against the laws of Equestria and hurts the little ponies, think of how Twilight Sparkle might feel, seeing you having pictures of fillies in a way that's not right.

How about you read "18 EQU.C. § 2251"?

18 EQU.C. § 2251: Protection of Fillies and Colts from Exploitation

(a) Offenses:

Anypony who:

(1) By use of magic, trickery, persuasion, or any other means, induces, coerces, or threatens a filly or colt to engage in any act of a mature or romantic nature; or

(2) Transports, or causes to be transported, any filly or colt across the borders of Equestria or between its various lands (such as from Ponyville to Canterlot) with the intent that such filly or colt engage in any act of a mature or romantic nature;

shall be punished as provided in subsection (b).

(b) Penalties:

Anypony convicted of an offense under subsection (a) shall be subject to:

(1) Imprisonment in the deepest dungeons of Canterlot for a term of no less than 10-20 moons, or for life, depending on the severity of the offense;

(2) A fine of bits not less than 10.000, to be paid to the affected filly or colt or their family; and

(3) Banishment from Equestria, at the discretion of Princess Celestia or Princess Luna.

(c) Definitions:

For purposes of this section:

(1) "Filly or colt" means any pony who has not yet reached their full adult size and potential.

(2) "Act of a mature or romantic nature" means any action that is suggestive of or involves grown relationships, including but not limited to:

* Posing in a manner that is intended to arouse or appeal to grown desires.
* Engaging in any physical contact that is suggestive of grown intimacy.
* Performing any act that is generally considered appropriate only for grown ponies.
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>>41826630
WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT
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>>41826614
It's called 10 to Life
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>>41826548
>Gets reviewed
>Not pornagraphic
>Still has rape
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>>41826649
It's just a struggle snuggle
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>>41826614
Just your run-of-the-mill Military Exercises
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>>41826614
Snu Snu
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>>41826653
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>>41826426
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>>41826670
Based daily reminder
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>>41826426
Nigger Pop
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>>41826426
Faithless Armor
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>Celestia/Sunset both vomiting at Luna's incest faggotry
at least one of her students took her teachings to heart
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>>41826674
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>>41826682
Yeah, because she's totally real and honest at all times
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>>41826690
Celestia isn't gay. She isn't getting horny because she sees Luna's ass, she's horny because of how much dominance she's exerting over her sister. Celestia gets hard when using OVERWHELMING POWER. It's like thinking Yuujiro Hanma is gay for raping a dude in the ass to assert his dominance.
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>>41826694
This
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Today I will burden every pony with the truth

>DoTS: 9/10
Pros: Flawless, sunset shimmer, daybreak, music, great fight scenes, Solid payoff when it comes to Twixie, Great setup for princest
Cons: Not much rewatchability as most of the great moments are twists, a very "you had to be there" movie

>S&B: 10/10
Pros: Solid finale to a gay stallion plot spanning over 5 episodes, bittersweet ending, Perfect ending to the tamers mlp saga as a whole, had an original story it wanted to tell, most nuanced cast, best musical moments, best fight scenes, callbacks that made the whole series worth watching, great rewatchability
>Cons: slow at times but the buildup has a solid payoff

>SH: 3/10
Pros: Lots of cute mares, flawless, applejack and rarity story was fun
Cons: All over the place, too much going on, rainbow dash just sorta disappeared, movie had zero build-up, Chrysalis and Cadence suddenly acting nothing like themselves from previous videos, tamers overhyping flawless return and princest stuff, too anime inspired/fanservicy, everything in the story had already been done by the stallions but written far better, felt like a rush to the ending, sound effects were missing in a lot of places
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>>41826694
this is also how i feel and one of the reasons i took up weightlifting and boxing
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>>41826707
You're wrong.
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>>41826707
Dangerously based and accurate
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@41826707
This is a bait post. Note how they try to pretend like their opinion is being genuine by using volume to create a facade of an argument, when it doesn't exist. Note the restraint of using a soarburn image, trying to use Flawless as a distraction to pretend to be a "fair opinionator".

Pathetic. Go eat a dick, fagboy, you know you want to.
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>>41826707
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>>41826707
After watching SH three times I can see it's mostly fan service with very little actual comedy or substance. None of the fight scenes actually had satisfying resolutions besides the Flawless one. Even then it felt like a half assed excuse to redeem Flawless with a new attack out of nowhere. Going back to the status quo after a rape scene, a murdered family member and an incest love confession feels really lazy and rushed for the ending. The more I watch SH the less I like it. DoTS and S&B feel more satisfying in their conclusions.
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>>41826601
>>41826605
This one scene proves why Tamers writing is so great. Up until now Chrysalis has been portrayed as an almost comedic figure, only to flip the script entirely at the end and remind everyone why she's considered the most detestable creature in equestria. It’s a masterstroke of storytelling because suddenly all of the "funny" things she did in the past no longer feel like jokes, like when she rubbed Shiny's back at the bowling alley, or snuck into Shining and Cadence's house. It forces you to grapple with the fact that Chrysalis isn't suddenly a monster, she always was and she masks it well by being a weirdo.
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>>41826722
I agree, Tamers should spend more time on these movies and less time on the gay stallions. Remember how the gay stallion movie cost us a Nightmare Night episode featuring Daring Do? It's clear that the gay stallions are a waste of space when everyone, especially you, want to have conclusive fights and tight mare story lines.
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I think the reason why Celestia is homophobe is because if you watch Death of Twilight, you see during the flashback, she got a kiss from Luna and didn't blush or anything. She might be homophobe out of fear.
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>>41826723
I knew she was a villain the moment she was hitting on Shining in the bowling alley moments after Cadence got the shit beaten out of her by a faggot.
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>>41826707
Imagine having taste this shit
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>>41826725
Motherfucker, I am so fucking sick of you goddamn retarded faggots. Do you think that people are born gay? If you do, why can't you fucking fathom that some people are born hating gays? You stupid narcissistic pedantic twat, I'd fuck you in the ass, but you'd cream yourself over the opportunity for my cockhead to punch your fart box.
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>>41826723
This. Molesting Shining Armor in the bowling alley and threatening to fuck him in his sleep now have a new context. She was 100% serious about raping him and even the therapy scene in DoTS feels more ominous. Like she planned out the rape months in advance.
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>>41826723
That's not what I got from it. I got a defeated and lonely femcel bitter and angry that she got everything she thought she wanted except the thing she actually wanted, which was genuine connection and love with Shining Armor, and despairing because she knew she'd literally never get that one thing, so she did the detestable thing and got as close to it as she could, and why not really? Every pony already treats her like a nigger. Genuinely tragic character.
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>>41826729
LOL!!! Fuck you anon, I'm crying from laughter over here.
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>>41826729
>Do you think that people are born gay? If you do, why can't you fucking fathom that some people are born hating gays?
holy shit trvth nvke
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>>41826729
>some people are born hating gays
I can't believe it, was it really so simple this whole time??
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>>41826729
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>>41826739
>>41826740
>>41826743
samefag shartynigger
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>>41826745
Angry gay boy.
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>>41826745
Sorry, no anon. I'm >>41826725 I literally replied with >>41826739 because I think what that anon said was funny.
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>>41826745
Why the fuck are you in a Tramers thread than you stupid faggot. Just filter it like I do.
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>"just filter it like i do"
>is in the actual thread
huh??
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Tamers love gay ship. Everyone is gay in his stories. Even the straight peoples and homophobia bastards are gay. And yes, you are gay too as well.
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So all jokes aside, he has to be taking a break from MLP now right? Having the final line being "Friendship is Magic" and pic related being the ending shot when no other video had one feels like he's saying goodbye to the ponies for a while.
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>>41826755
Yeah just two more weeks bro LMAO
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>>41826731
>Genuinely tragic character
marecel lusting over a married man is tragic now? bitch there's a million fish in the sea
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>>41826751
Fluttershy is straight. One day she gets her arc when Discord appears.
Also Tamers seem to like Hitch/Zipp and make Sprout a gay third wheel like Chrysalis and Shining/Cadence
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>>41826761
>doesn't understand oneitis
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>>41826761
There are NOT a million middle-class huge-cocked bishounen white men in the world you LYING BASTARD.
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>>41826723
The problem is Big Mac was pretty much her character already done, and done better. I'd argue Big Mac was even more detestable at times because we saw his good side enough to outway the bad. Also the writing was done well enough that he was also able to by sympathized with and redeemed. I see us revisiting Big Mac sooner than later but I don't ever see us revisiting Chrysalis because it was rushed so fast to its end.
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@41826768
Everything you just posted is wrong.
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>>41826731
Not saying she can't want both. She did say the weeks of the Canterlot wedding where she had Shining under her control were the best weeks of her life, so she obviously wanted to recreate that high. Only this time, after her and Shining spent various moments together, she realized he means more to her than a puppet.
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>>41826768
It's nowhere near done yet, there's gonna be way more drama with their rape baby
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>>41826768
Marble will be introduced into the Tamersverse and cute Big Mac of his gayness and turn him back towards the righteous path of incest instead of not so subtly trying to get into Soarin's pants.
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>Chrysalis is dependent on love just to live
>gets to the point where she commits crimes just to survive, and that in turn becomes obsession
>this is comparable to Big Mac raping his cousin that begs to be fucked multiple times daily
I hate faggots so much it's unreal.
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>>41826773
i hope not. baby episodes are always shit
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>>41826762
Did you watch the credits? Zipp isn't going to let Hitch off easy.
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>>41826573
Tamers personal account courtesy of Spec.
>>41826587
>N-No it was always known!
Cope tamerstranny
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>>41826773
That would actually be awful so I doubt it. Babies ruin every character around them because then the characters become nothing more than caretakers. Which is unironically probably the reason Tamers ages up the cmc. I expect if they any of them do return it will either be comlpetely ignored, maybe appear once or twice as a gag after Shining Armor notices but doesn't bring it up, or Tamrs will turn it into a joke and say it was just a changling baby wearing a dollar store wig or something.
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>>41826779
> have a great hunger
>it must be satisfied
>doesn't matter if it is right
>doesn't matter who it hurts
>doesn't matter if it destroys everything and the obsession halts my personal growth
which one am I talking about
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>>41826779
Not even gay and I can tell you it literally is the same story
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I am not going to engage with you because you think that Chrysalis psychologically breaking down and raping someone that has repeatedly told her no and to stay away is the same as Big Mac raping someone begging to be raped, you need serious psychological help, and I'm not joking. I won't even call you a slur this time. Seek help immediately.
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>>41826779
>"All I want, all I've ever wanted was you, just for a moment for you to look at me the way you look at her, but I know you never will."
It's clearly become about more than just mere survival at this point.
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>>41826797
I typed that in the post you're quoting. Is everyone but me being disingenuous? It is 4:12PM in India right now...
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>>41826794
She did not have to psychologically break down to do that.
If anything, her trying to do anything other than rape is the unnatural part.
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>Constantly lays out that she wants to rape Shining
>Openly talks about hating cadence and killing her to steal shining
>Openly admitted to being down to fuck child shining
>Nearly every character openly says she's evil
>"It so out of character for her to brainwash and rape shining"
>"Why is she suddenly evil"
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>>41826800
>automatically assumes anyone responding to him is doing so only to argue.
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>>41826472
you look silly
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>>41826803
Nobody is saying that retard except maybe the trannies in your head.
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>>41826808
You typed like a passive-aggressive bitch, so I responded to you as if you are a passive-aggressive bitch. This post I'm replying to hasn't changed my opinion about you, by the way.
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>>41826811
You must be new to this site, you've got that whole angry phase down pat. You'll get over it eventually, faggot.
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>>41826548
>be me
>living in Kalkutta shed
>making decent money working for google
>JIRA ticket for content review flies in
>have to watch Tamers
>can't even begin to comprehend
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>>41826779
>Chrysalis is dependent on love just to live
Big mac self admitted to being dependent on braeburn and intentionally manipulating him all throughout their lives to keep him around, cause he knew otherwise he would be all alone. basically the same thing.
>gets to the point where she commits crimes just to survive, and that in turn becomes obsession
Big Mac sexually assaulted Braeburn multiple times because he needed a way to vent, same thing.
>this is comparable to Big Mac raping his cousin that begs to be fucked multiple times daily
Braeburn begs for it only because Big Mac tricked him for so long into believing that's what love was. Braeburn doesn't really want it, just like how Shining Armor obviously doesn't want anything from Chrysalis
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>>41826814
You WISH I was a faggot so I'd fuck you up your poop chute, cumdumpster.
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>>41826816
Again, seek psychiatric help immediately. Again, I'm not going to call you a slur because I'm telling you this in earnest.
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>>41826786
Literally said Hitch is straight with Zipp in that post
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>>41826444
>>41826449
>>41826472
>Should I watch tamers
>Newfag enters thread
>Same time as the sharty raid
>"No it's bad DESU- w-why did that auto-correct to DESU! I SWEAR I'M NOT A NEW-
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>>41826726
I knew she was a villain the moment she was being black.
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A Sprout(gay)/Hitch(bi)/Zipp(straight) would actually be the funniest shit ever if Tamers ever expands on it
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Equestria Daily posts have almost no comments. How is Sethisto still keeping the site alive???
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>>41826840
So is QUEEN Haven above or below PRINCESS Celestia?
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>>41826849
Equestria is a principality, they're of equal rank since they're both rulers of a nation state
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I was about to type Tamers can't do straight romance because the Chrysalis/Shining/Cadence stuff was awful, and that he should stick to 75%Yuri, 25%Yaoi but then I remember Knuxonia being pretty good. What the hell happened?
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>>41826829
lol
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>>41826864
Chrysalis didn't do a courtship. Knows it is doomed. Did what comes to her kind instead.

"Why isn't this romance plot between the human and the swarm of egg-laying alien bugs hitting the right spots?"
"Is it the economics?"
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>>41826707
>too anime inspired/fanservicy
This was my biggest gripe. Rainbow Dash and Twilight basically got anime aura transformations only to perform big anime finishers, and the sex appeal with Cadance randomly getting socks and the constant referrals to Shining Armor being a sexy femboy felt forced. It felt like I was watching an episode of Fairy Tail where it was sex forward, story was an afterthought.

In comparison Luna wearing a maid outfit in previous episodes made sense cause she was Celestia's bitch, trixies striped socks were sus but I assume they were a reference to Flora so I'll give that a pass. not to bring up the gay stallions again but the gay stallions fanservice moments felt natural at least because Braeburn was like, actually a slut. Also because of the age difference, Braeburn's past relationship, incompatible kinks, sex was unironically integral to their story a lot of the time.
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>>41826894
Oh my fucking god, shut up about the fucking stallions already
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>>41826876
>Why isn't this romance plot between the human and the swarm of egg-laying alien bugs hitting the right spots?
I've read plenty of fanfics where it worked, Tamers just fucked it up
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>>41826876
>swarm of egg-laying alien bugs
You know, the egg laying was just fanon oviposition kink
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>>41826904
>don't talk about the longest and still currently running plot which also just so happens to star the ponies with the most depth and nuance
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>>41826914
We get it, you lust for cock, you don't need to hide it behind poorly constructed critique, you can just say you wish he did more gay stallion episodes.
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>>41826904
>joins fandom about show where 40% of airtime is gay romance
>Loves show
>So strongly desires not to hear about gay romance that he leaves the fandom
Man do we have like a word for this kind of behavior?
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>>41826920
>thread about recent episode
>cannot stop talking about previous episode
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>>41826904
Technically Soarin was in the episode so fag anon is valid
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>>41826923
Now this is the kind of faggotry I can get behind. There's nothing cooler than a gay man who is a serial killer on the side.
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>>41826921
why is she wearing socks (pants??) where did she get them?
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>>41826922
Yes?
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>>41826940
I'm sure you can understand how constant and thinly veiled attempts to turn discussion back towards S&B at literally every opportunity could get irritating. Or perhaps you can't or you wouldn't be doing it.
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>>41826936
getting cucked mindbroke her into dressing like a whore
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>>41826936
It's probably pretty cold up there? Maybe she just felt like looking sexy.
>where did she get them?
She magicked a sword out of thin air as well, but I don't see you questioning that!
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>>41826923
brainlets think it was Rarity but i dont think she would be this much OOC even in Tamerverse
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>>41826959
Maybe it was Big Mac?
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>>41826729
My fucking knees
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I wanna hear people's honest opinions about the latest movie. Does anyone else just not care about the "lore" stuff Tamers is doing now? After TDOTS it feels like he keeps doing "lore" rather than jokes and this episode was the biggest example of how it just feels...not great. I know he put a lot of effort into these but genuinely all I care about are the pony jokes because his comedic timings are insanely good, but the story beats just don't feel that way anymore. That or they feel too frequent now rather than the funny, mundane adventure episodes that the first batch of MLP videos had. Also judge me if you want but Flawless should've just been a form Trixie and Twilight could transform into rather than her getting redeemed to appease Flawless fans. Fan service this episode didn't feel great and also did Rarity and Applejack's plot even get resolved? I feel like Rarity just shot Granny Smith and then they were forgotten about after that for everything else and just never brought up again. Lastly, movies are feeling less special now that they're happening more frequently.
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>>41826994

I would say this episode contained no lore at all.

There's multiple things I could try to assume you're talking about, but there's' no way to know.

>I wanted this whole character to be a transformation(/possession?)
That's far enough out there that you're not really talking about the show anymore. I, for one, would prefer if I got 20 dollars and my dick sucked, but that doesn't make the movie tamers published any worse.

>so that she couldn't be redeemed
See, that's your actual complaint, I think. There's no point dressing it up as anything else. You only confuse your message, and your message is pretty confused. Being rational is good, and making rationalizations is irrational.

>Rarity/AJ unresolved
I mean yes. I'm expecting the whole "there's a murderer" plotline to come back in a later episode, but it is a bit strange that it was in this one.

If it helps, granny smith was a hardass homophope matriarch of the family in and episode in which the god-matriarch of homophobia finally gets confronted by her homo sister. As granny represents the old ways, it makes some sense she would die with them.
In any artistic series, the meaning of each part is informed by the meaning of every other part. If this is not the case, then those works of art are not really a series.

It is the natural state of discussion that all episodes should serve as points of comparison for all others, which is what 41826894 did., DoTS, flora, the current episode, and fairy tail were all brought up as points of comparison, but you focused


To avoid making the comparisons is to cut off your own thought process, to fear thinking, to become retarded.
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>>41827015
Haha, everyone look! Anon replied to the wrong post!
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>>41826449
>>41826472
tamers haters are fucking newfags
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>MALE GAY HORSES BAD
>LESBIAN GAY HORSES GOOD
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>>41827027
This but unironically
>But that's hypocritical!
:^)
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Rivals
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>>41827030
Shim Sham going for Bayo energy, I expect her to have Glocks taped to her hindlegs for her next appearance
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>>41827016
>I would say this episode contained no lore at all.
Okay fair let me rephrase, the "serious" plotpoints of the episodes as of late aren't engaging to me anymore.
>That's far enough out there that you're not really talking about the show anymore. I, for one, would prefer if I got 20 dollars and my dick sucked, but that doesn't make the movie tamers published any worse.
What do you mean? It seems like the more reasonable conclusive because she didn't have that great of a personality in TDOTS to where Tamers didn't even think to bring her back until people asked for her. I like her design, I think she's really cute but since she was a fusion of Twilight and Trixie, wouldn't it make more sense for her to be a fusion form they can turn in to fight people as? I think that'd be very cool, but I guess that's just me.
>See, that's your actual complaint, I think. There's no point dressing it up as anything else. You only confuse your message, and your message is pretty confused. Being rational is good, and making rationalizations is irrational.
I mean because the redemption setup didn't really do anything for her, she got redeemed and then ran away? What is she going to do now that she's redeemed? What is her character's personality going to be when her entire point of existing in TDOTS was to be a perfect version of both Twilight and Trixie? I just don't see much he can do with her besides having her be a pseudo Discord stand in now, which okay cool I guess if that's what you want out of her, I just wanted something a little more is all.
>I mean yes. I'm expecting the whole "there's a murderer" plotline to come back in a later episode, but it is a bit strange that it was in this one.
It just felt like it took up a decent bit of the sideplot just to be forgotten about.
Also i'm not trying to be mean when I say this but could you explain what you mean with your last sentence more clearly? I don't fully understand what you're saying.
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>>41827030
I genuinely thought some love triangle was gonna happen here
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>>41827034
>reasonable conclusive
fuck I mean't reasonable conclusion.
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Tamers12345 MLP is the closest thing to pre Act6 Homestuck.
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>>41827035
Why would it? She's probably got SciLight.
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>>41827035
Shimmer ain't a lesbo
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>>41827034
>Also i'm not trying to be mean when I say this but could you explain what you mean with your last sentence more clearly? I don't fully understand what you're saying.
Fragment of a post meant for the other guy which will receive no clarification.
It's nor for you or your problem don't worry about it
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Look how much he has grown
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Are we gonna get Chrysalis as a black single mother? That would be a fun storyline with comedic potential for black stereotypes.
>Chrysalis beating her child with a belt
>Smoke alarm chirping
>Eating corn starch
>Her child joining a griffin street gang
>Fly by shootings with guns
>Chrysalis getting really fat and watching Wheel of Fortune
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>>41826994
When the first movie came out I thought it was a bit gay (pejorative), but it was novel due to being the first of its kind, and also had some funny stuff in it.

S&B was aight. It's the funniest of the long movies. I wasn't very emotionally invested in the fight stuff. The first gay fight with Twilight, evil Soarin and Big Mac was peak fighting for me.

SH I didn't really like, although I can see Tamer's storytelling and pacing is improving constantly. It was just way too devoid of comedy. Honestly I can tolerate these lore movies if they're also funny, this really wasn't. But it was almost interesting and exciting by virtue of plot, and Sunset Shimmer made it better. Just quite didn't get there for me. And I can't blame him, making a good "serious" movie is hard, the easiest way to improve the watchability is to just increase comedy. I think he really wants to make these into emotional bangers, but his forte is comedy
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>>41827054
... she was already a black single mother.
Cadence killed all her kids.
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>>41827058
Those kids weren't half White so they didn't matter
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>>41827057
The twi-mac-soar fight was probably the best despite the worst quality, but shining armor dropping a sweet fucking pirouette in 4 smooth frames to dodge trixie gassed my grills pretty good.
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>>41827063
Also, that mind controlled retard is a mage and he basically embarrassed trixie with 80% hooves and zero thoughts in his head.
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I LOVE THIS MARE! I LOVE HER! I LOVE HER! I LOVE HER! I LOVE HER! I LOVE HER! I LOVE HER! I LOVE HER!
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>>41827092
Mentally challenged
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Chrysalis called her kingdom the fucking ghetto in the bowling episode but it wasn’t like that in this movie.
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>>41826662
>Lapis Armour
>Lapis
>La piss
This is an accurate name that a black would give her child. Source: Latrina
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>>41827129
what do mean? It was full of black horses.
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>>41827129
Takes 3 minutes and a fuck to spawn a "kingdom" of drones, and it isn't exactly unheard of for a ghetto to have people in it.

The cell they were being held in was in a carved out cave, so that's not exactly high tech.
It did have bars, at least.

The actual castle features were simply out of place, but I've got an excuse for that. If a castle can just be abandoned in the everfree, one can be abandoned wherever this is. It didn't look like brickwork on the outside, so maybe the hive walls were created on top of an existing castle, like a bee's nest.

Lastly, we see this episode that the whole world starts drying out when the "love" gets absorbed into one place, and is instantly un-dried when the love is returned.. The changeling hive already exists in a magical deadzone that looks like a dried out wasteland. No matter how expensive the buildings might be, this region might still be considered a bad place to live by equestrians, on account of lack of "environmental love/happy".

It also doesn't really matter how many changelings are holding how many weapons if none of them have any skills. What do you call a building with no working utilities? Bad. How about 30 families with no jobs living in the same housing complex?
Probably a slur.

However, they did cut out the ebonics.
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>>41826729
I'm not saying everypony that's anti-homo (homophobe is a misnomer) has suppressed homolust themselves, but the way you talk dirty to another man leads me to believe you are in fact one of those.
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>>41827153
>No cars missing their wheels, stereos or catalytic converters
>No smoke alarms chirping
>No drive by shooting
>No abandoned piss covered mattresses
>No pitbulls barking
>No homeless lighting trash can fires
It wasn't very ghetto
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>>41827160
Personally I think Chrysalis needed more screentime in general. Despite how important her and Cadence were to the story they didn't really get to show up a lot compared to other characters. Maybe the Applejack/Rarity side story should have been saved for a future episode so this one could focus on the main plot.
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well at least Applejack and Rarity are doing okay
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>>41827200
They probably just had to pay the seven bit bail
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>Celestia doesn't even acknowledge Luna after she confessed her feelings
Brutal
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>>41827235
Celestial ain't a faggot
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>>41827235
princest lost hard
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>>41827235
They're not in the credits either
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>>41826729
Ummm, based department?
You gotta see this
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>>41826707
It's frustrating because you can see the kinds of content we got robbed of by the sheer amount of filler. We basically get no Shining, not even a character, there's no internal struggle or horror of descent into Chrys' control, he just gets zombie MCd and that's it. We don't see his reaction to waking up again.
This story should have given us some baseline Shining/Cadance content, introduced Chryssi (an Anon suggested having her invite them to her kingdom for a visit and betray them as guests), mounted the tension through arising problems as they interact, have Chryssi take Shining under her control, some Chryssi/Shining MC content, SHOWN us (not told via fucking soliloquy) how Shining being zombified is unsatisfying for Chryssi, SHOWN us Cadance's reaction to losing Shining and falling as a goddess, perhaps had her petition friends for support or otherwise finish developing their involvement within their side plots, then give us one good fight, some resolutions and lessons for them and the sideplots (esp Luna), free Shining and begin revealing and managing his and Cadance's feelings towards the events, wrap up side-plots and esp show us Luna and Celestia interacting in the fallout of the confession.
By filling the ep with contentless art exercises, Tamers looted the runtime he had available to do all of this. Tamers' content is at its best when characters and dialog are driving it. Action and monologue, as drivers, are not bringing the same soul. There were well-foreshadowed resolutions to a lot of these subplots Tamers has been setting up that were enticing because you just knew they'd end up with these dramatic, satisfying scenes. Not getting those has left me feeling empty and disappointed.

It's getting obvious he's creatively exhausted and has set a pace that is not conducive to quality, and I'm concerned that this is stemming from the perverse profit incentives that his online platforms provide.
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>>41826577
there were fillies in SU?
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>>41826682
It's fucked up that tamers is making shimmer so based, I might actually start liking her.
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>>41826707
I have problems with the new movie but you are delusional if you think S&B is a 10/10 while SH is only a 3
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Unironically better than DoTS in my opinion.

I am starting to miss SU though, One can only guess what kino he has in the oven for SU if he'd going this hard for MLP. Maybe he's making a 2hr+ epic like Return of the King(bitch).
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>>41827275
He's gonna force you to like g5 characters next, I think just to prove he can do it
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>>41826614
It's called being a lucky bastard.
Also Chrysalis makes him take part of her pee fetish which makes it exponentially hotter
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>>41827235
her ass is definitely going back to the moon for this
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>>41827311
This is some bomb ass tea anon
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>>41826313
It wasn't that bad, could use more farts. 4/10
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Where is she in the episode this time?
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>>41827326
For once you're actually on point with your brap posts. Grim times.
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>>41827092
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gcs5k8n-FY
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>>41827331
i adore this retarded individual
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>>41827331
right here >>41826923
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>>41827338
I actually just praised it in this thread. That Anon is just shitposting. I rated 10/10 in an earlier thread.

[spoiler ]https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/41823090/#q41824212 [/spoiler]

It could've used more fart scenes but that snowpity sniffing scene made up for it since it was hot as fuck.
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>>41827331
It's the monkey paw wish of her stealing Fluttershy's role but that also means being completely forgotten about.
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>>41826472
>He doesn't know the history of desuposting

Someone kill this retarded newfag IMMEDIATELY. Anyone who came here after 2008 deserves death.
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>>41827409
Anyone who came here after October 10th, 2003 deserves death
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>>41826729
people are born shitting in their diapies, too, but you eventually have to grow out of that, same with being anti-faggot
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>>41827418
Funny, because faggots end up back in diapies because they blew their rectums out with gay sex
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>>41826761
Imagine if the genders were reversed.
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>>41827427
No one cares when men suffer, it's what we were made for.
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>>41826729
Looking at fags evokes the same disgust response in the brain as looking at maggots. So everyone is born being disgusted at fags, it is natural.
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>>41827035
Shimmer fucks MEN and HATES fags.
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>>41827431
At least I'm really good at it.
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>>41827409
LOL! Sowwy.
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>>41827442
Explode, Cozyfag.
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>>41827437
>fucks men
ew gross
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>>41827459
HOLY SHIT DESU DESU DESU DESU FUCKING TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE
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>>41827469
https://youtu.be/PB8TNMBqrpA

The internet was genuinely a better place back then.
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>>41827459
wtf is this weebshit?
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DESU.
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>>41827488
Ancient 4chan culture and the reason modern zoomer talk filters to desu.
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>>41827488
Bless your heart, zoomie.
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>>41827493
What else does that, I wonder? IMO YSK DESU IDK WTF FTW
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>>41827502
So y filters to onions, except on /int/ because of hispanics.

A few other ancient phrases still trigger autobans for old time's sake.
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>>41827502
Still the funniest one. I'm sad they disabled it.
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>>41827502
f am = senpai
t bh = desu
s mh = baka
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>>41827509
>>41827514
>>41827515
Interesting! Sorry I’m such a newfag, senpai!
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>>41827338
>>41827359
Shitposting aside, I don't like whenever Tamers tries to get serious. Plus those synthetic voices don't help it. Farting at least is funny and somehow entertaining. To me his first MLP episodes were better.
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>>41827534
I laughed at Twilight's moan when she was thrown in the cell.
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>>41827534
I find that comedy is best interspersed with seriousness. For example Chrysalis doing a whole speech before raping Shining only to then break the moment afterwards by asking what the fuck Cadence was doing in her house
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>>41827529
If everyone lurked three years before posting as used to be the prevailing wisdom, this site would still be mostly usable. Sadly, TORtanic and the 2016 elections did irreparable damage to this place.
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>>41827534
I still haven’t seen a Tamers video, but I was wondering about the “serious” stuff? What is it, like when the Nostalgia Critic tries to do a “serious” story, like that Christmas episode where he made the fangirl character cry and had to go cheer her up or whatever? Basically, is it total cringe?
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>>41827553
The internet has been shit ever since 2007 really.
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>>41827563
>It's been just as long since 2016 when the site became unusable as it was between 2007 and then
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>>41827534
I would never say this, brownoid. The stuff from Tamers I'm not a fan of is how empty his patreon is. But other than that Tamers misses rarely. The TTS voices are staples of the channel too, even if Tamers never intended to use them long time like he has. Serious, Funny, it's all good to me.

>>41827553
The problem with lurking before posting these days is that /b/ was the lurker board, now it's just another shitty porn board where newfags don't learn anything.
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>>41826322
>phoneposter because of the file name
>not using iCloud Photos on your PC
poor detected
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>>41827553
>the 2016 elections
newfag detected, I remember when moot rolled out the mobile site and it was the worst thing to happen to the site since the last worst thing to happen to the site
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>>41827585
There can be more than one glimmerfag
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>>41827563
>first gen iPhone
>normies
>easy access to the internet on the first gen iPhone
tell me you're too young to remember the iPhone launch without telling me you're too young, that thing was an expensive piece of shit, no sites worked because "mobile sites" were java applets for blackberry, and it didn't even have a 3G radio.
Imagine paying $600 on a two year cingular contract for an iPod with a touch screen that made phone calls.
Normies didn't get phones with good internet access til 2009 or so when the 3GS and the Motorola Droid launched
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>>41827591
Smartphones have been a disaster for t̶h̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶e̶r̶n̶e̶t̶humanity.
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>>41827556
Can't really explain it without spoiling a bunch that's better left watched for yourself, but essentially there is actually meaningful story beats underneath the crude humor, and in my opinion it's actually decently woven together, it doesn't feel jarring at all to go from ponies farting or using guns to spouting surprisingly meaningful dialogue about the human condition.
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>>41827599
True, but the smartphone was the main reason for the internet going to shit. I feel the shift happened around 2010-2012 somewhere.
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>>41827579
4chan is at this point older than many of its users, and before you can blink it will be older than its entire target demographic of 18-28
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>>41827585
Lurking used to be an extremely important aspect of maintaining every board's individual culture, and mods would ban obvious newfags asking stupid questions or posting obvious bait. RapeApe and the other mods have done incalculable damage to this place by making jannies do all the work and only reactively banning overt rule breakers.

>>41827591
Things were dogshit since Chanology, but at least slower boards like /jp/ and /m/ were still fine. Only /b/ and /v/ were terrible after 2008. Mobile posters ruined the other top-but-still-slower boards like /tg/ and /a/. 2016 made the entire site terrible, because mods refused to ban off-topic threads and everyone posting in them, and now every board that isn't a 200 posts a day hyper-niche thing like /cgl/ or /trv/ is useless. Even /ck/ and /mu/ are somehow useless now.

moot was a faggot, but at least he was willing to ban retards. I'm unironically beginning to miss snacks and how he moderated the site.
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>>41827596
Sure there can but he isn't one but that particular Anon is pretending to be "me", specifically. Ever since I mindbroke him months ago.

>>41827608
The shift really started when Google tried pushing G+ in 2013, that's when the modern Era of the internet began.
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>>41827608
it would have happened regardless, if not for the smartphone (which was coming regardless of Steve Apple's obsession with touch screens, everyone in my high school had a Palm Treo or a Blackberry, usually hand me downs from dad's work phone) by 2006
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>>41827553
Many people are here just to discuss pony content and kill some time. Don't expect them to familiarize themselves with your so called "culture", especially if they're not interested in browsing other boards. /mlp/ is probably the only publicly available pony-related "forum", not filled with actual kids and political correctness that is still active nowadays.
Being a newfag doesn't break any rules, 4chan isn't the meaning of life.
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>>41827620
jesus that post was terribly written, my brain shorted. I made a point in there somewhere, good luck finding it
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>>41827629
I wish I had a thousand fists and you had a thousand faces so I could punch your thousand faces a thousand times each
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https://files.catbox.moe/412c3o.mp4
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>>41827641
needs more guitar practice over hot mic
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>>41827629
Okay. And I'm free to call you a nigger, because while your view is nice on paper, it just leads to retards flooding the place and actively making it worse. I used to believe "just don't reply to them" was the answer, yet over almost 19 years, I've seen this place actively degenerate despite that. So, I think now that the best answer is to actively cull retards from the population.
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>>41826761
The S&B movie has a scene in which Celestia mentions that 90-something percent of Equestria is female
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>>41827635
Yeah, don't get overexcited.

>>41827649
Good luck with that.
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>>41826729
a murder like this outta be illegal
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>>41827668
96 percent, its why being gay is punishable by death but being a carpet muncher is punishable by celestia puking a little
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>>41827649
>I used to believe "just don't reply to them" was the answer
It only works on fast boards. When there's less than 100 users on a board at a time, trolls have free reign, especially with anonymous posting without IDs.
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>>41827780
It doesn't work at all. Some people are just mentally ill and will post bait even without being replied to as a matter of autistic principle.
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>>41827641
should upload this to ponytube
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I hope there is explicit fanart of Chrysalis raping Shinning
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>>41827791
Anon, there has been fanart of Chrysalis raping Shining for 12 years!
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>>41827800
Yeah, but I kinda wanted a renacting of the scene
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This feels like the end of the series. I think Tamers is gonna go back to Sonic Underground for a while and recharge his batteries.
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>>41827809
tamers isnt going to betray his loyal mlp fanbase
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>>41827809
Isn't that what people were saying after DoTS?
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>>41827814
This movie felt like the ending we should've got for FiM. I don't know if I want the series to continue after reaching such a satisfying conclusion.
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>>41827820
Back then we thought the series was just a temporary parody and break from Sonic Underground. Now it feels like a genuine love letter to FiM and the conclusion we should've gotten all along.
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>>41827839
There are too many plot hooks left over even after this and Tamers himself has said there's a lot more he wants to do with the characters. It's not over yet SNAAAKE
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KWABArmor
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>>41827864
cadance has so much mercy it's a miracle the crystal empire hasn't been overrun by immigrants from saddle arabia
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>>41827873
Mapping real world shit onto MLP is fucking gay. Saddle Arabians are not stand-ins for muslims, their culture is pre-islam influences only, like Equestria being Greek myth or Arthurian legend
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>>41826444
If you're a fan of mlp what else is there to watch?

The same episodes you've seen already?
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>>41827906
sure bud
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>>41827016
>Reddit spacing
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>second thread cant even reach 400 posts
time to admit this episode was shit already
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>>41827590
>Shitassers don't use the board
Surprising nobody. That gollyfaggot is known to be a mobilenigger like you.
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>>41827990
The stallion shit really killed a lot of the hype
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Whats the ED song used in SH?
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>>41827030
>tranners will look at this trainwreck and say he knows how to draw
lol, lmao even
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>>41827259
I liked it but I acknowledge all of this. Everything happened way too fast and I'm thinking maybe he wanted to do this now so he could focus on sonic underground without forgetting about the stuff he glossed over in this episode because I'm pretty sure he doesn't have any notes and forgets stuff but there's stuff in this episode he'd forget too so idk.

It feels like there should've been four more episodes before this one.
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>>41828053
>me when i'm totally not mad so i type out an entire paragraph of cope to express how totally not mad i am
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>>41828053
>>41828057
>>41828059
Prove any of this shit or fuck off.
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Another tamers song has dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ho_dyUuiZU&ab_channel=MelodyBrony
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I can't watch this shit anymore. Tamers is terrible at drama, yet he keeps shoving it in, completely overtaking the comedy. These serious episodes are unwatchable.
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when I made a thread to discuss the possibility of intentional community manipulation to dry up the board (because we're useless for the data collection and may drive users off from more important boards for them) it got deleted
this babsflag here how are you still up, if you say criticism of tamers is banned then why post it unless you are evading
I like tamers btw
I even understand why come here because it's spammed all over the board and you don't like, I too think it should be kept in a general
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I literally don’t care, stop riding his coattails and make music that isn’t hard-carried by Tamers’ effort. At least BGM uses AI voices so it matches the work it’s celebrating.
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>>41827873
Cadence would never be angry about some Spaghetti
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>>41828125
>>poo poo fart explosion
Yes, his toilet humor is hilarious. That's one of the reasons his content is so appealing.
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>>41827990
It certainly ended up killing my interest quite a bit. At this point, this is starting to feel less like a parody like it was before and more like unironic fanfiction. I really miss when the episodes were more SU-esque.
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>>41828138
Drama only works with the stallions because no one takes mares seriously
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>>41828118
This is why i'm genuinely hoping Tamers' pony episodes are over now which is really sad because they started out strong. He should've just stopped after TDOTS and focused more on making the next episodes of higher quality rather than pumping them out with so many issues and to keep people engaged. I just am not at all interested in his "serious" story beats. They were better in SU because they were so few and far inbetween while most of the episodes focused on slice of life stuff. The original MLP episodes were great too from him because they also did the slice of comedy route which he is really good at so I hope he drops all the serious stuff until he can make it properly work with his comedy because right now, it's really jarring and boring.
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>>41828153
All he had to do was copy SU's formula but with horses. I have no idea why he decided to turn it into some teen drama.
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>>41828170
>All he had to do was copy SU's formula but with horses. I have no idea why he decided to turn it into some teen drama.
Exactly my same thoughts. I feel like he did this because he wanted to try something different and all the new audience started hyping him as a lore god which made him feel like he had to keep doing them seriously.
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>>41828152
Don't kid yourself. The stallion shit was just as bad, if not worse for how much time it took with how repetitive it was. The best episode involving them was easily the holiday one because it was much more comedy based with the drama toned down significantly.
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>>41828170
>>41828184
>All he had to do was copy SU's formula but with horses.
If you were to take out the story that MLP was crafting these videos would bomb because it would be aimless and eventually just a less interesting version of SU, there would be no reason to actually keep the quality rising instead of actually making it like SU.


Well that and the reality is the story was the unironic main reason that any of what was being done was working because it was all going somewhere rather than feeling entirely aimless, the fact that there was direction on top of the art is why the views spiked unlike how SU was going.
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>>41827345
she eepy
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>>41826426
People last thread decided on Aspis, which is Shield in Greek. It's a pretty cute name and there's a good amount of asspiss jokes to be had.
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>>41828235
can we just call her aspie?
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>net worth: 2 dollars
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>>41828235
>Aspie
>Asspiss
She’s perfect!!
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>>41828247
If only ponies actually wore clothes
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>Flawless says she won't go with twilight for this week
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>>41827548
This. I watch for the whiplash, its never as great when its all serious or all funny
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>>41828225
It's fine to have some story, but it should be rare. The show should primarily be light-hearted, with serious drama only being a small part of it. That's not even an original ask, since many TV shows successfully follow this formula.
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>two or three dudes whining 24 hours after the fact
>it'll still break 200k views anyway
yawn
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>>41828274
>All critics are invalid, view count go up!
>Remember to sign up to the paymetons
Could do a better job hiding the fact you're a shill.
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>>41828263
The story and drama are the main glue to keep the entire format interesting and actually worth the effort of going as high as he has been for MLP otherwise it's just SU, a thing that no matter how much humor is in it actually doesn't attract much positive traction to the degree tamers has gone on record admitting just how bad things were going with something like zatch bell.

The G4 followed that same format past S3 and it made almost none of the rest of the series worth watching because all the charm and direction was gone. Hell the last few good shows a few years ago(Some examples like RTMNT, Glitch techs, kid cosmic, etc.) all had story as key value. On that same belief of just following that formula, you can easily argue that something like TTGO is good because it does follow the same thing.
>light hearted
That just isn't tamers real style, his style is massive absurd extremes that loop into the humor. His MLP is good because it fixed the issues that G4 got the moment the passion actually left, it's what made DoTS and Trixie's massive arc all work and make people invested in where that was going to go because it was investing and fun to watch.

SH was still fun to watch, it just had far too many plotlines converging, the drama isn't the issue, it's the runtime and pacing which are very clearly rushed given this is the first pony movie to unironically not be an 1 hour+ and to force in several other critical stories that really should have been on their own.
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>>41828274
I've been watching Tamers for years. I am allowed to be critical of a content creator I really do enjoy. If this is the direction he wants to take his MLP and SU series then that's fine, I wish him luck, I just would realize i'm no longer the target audience because he obviously wants to be taken more seriously now and as such, is open to valid criticism because while these serious episodes after TDOTS haven't been great so far, I do have hopes and want to see him improve if this is what he wants to do now.
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>>41828303
you're wasting your effort on people who didn't even actually watch, anon. Good to see enthusiasm about something in this fandom but it is a waste of your time to engage trolls
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>>41828303
Anon, Tamers' style is absolutely light hearted. Death isn't even permanent -- people have their heads explode and come back perfectly fine several scenes later. It's an absurdist, crude world built for comedy.
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>>41828225
s1-2 was aimless slice of life and it's considered the bee's knees here.
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>>41828339
go figure, nobody named died in this episode and there were jokes a plenty
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>>41826923
Glasses are much different. The killer has those cheap ones you'd get at a gas station while Soarin has designer shades. Note the differing nose bridges.
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>watch the new episode
>wonder what's /mlp/ is like
>autistic seething as usual
kek, didn't really expect anything else from the arrested development board.
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>>41828297
no, pinkie is abusive
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>>41827323
kek
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>>41828261
tonal whiplash is one of tamers best skills
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>>41828341
S1 though 2 was spent establishing the cast in full and was full of stories that were all meant to build on twilight growing as a friend as well as growing each of the cast as characters.
>>41828339
>It's an absurdist, crude world built for comedy.
And this is what you fail to get, you are trying to force him to be something he isn't, it's not light hearted it's chaotic and absurd. These two things aren't mutually exclusive with the former, they form his where dramatic things happen, SU had plenty of that same drama the only difference was the story was taking the full sideline and because of it even things like Zatch bell and the boys were all falling short leading to tamers just up and cancelling one cause it was failing that badly for what he wanted it to be.

You view it as if the world has no stakes which just isn't the case for his style as when thing happened in SU, while the end would usually put the status quo back, the ongoing action and narrative all had a some line of plan that they were leading to. It's more prevalent in dynamics and the relationships but the satire around it alone it not all that it always is.
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>>41828344
Granny smith died
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>>41828383
Nice 200 word essay but maybe put down the fedora and just enjoy the humor and lightheardedness of tamers12345
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>>41828383
>SU had plenty of that same drama the only difference was the story was taking the full sideline and because of it even things like Zatch bell and the boys were all falling short leading to tamers just up and cancelling one cause it was failing that badly for what he wanted it to be.
This is completely wrong. For one, the drama stuff was few and far inbetween with most episodes being slice of life. Second is that Zatch Bell failed because Tamers honestly didn't put the greatest amount of effort into it, especially when it didn't recieve the views he wanted so he's partially to blame for Zatch failing imo.
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>>41823132
Episode 19 of Zatch Bell sub has subs now. Thanks for letting me know they were missing hope you see this.
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>>41828383
>S1 though 2 was spent establishing the cast in full
The first couple episodes established the cast in full.
>and was full of stories that were all meant to build on twilight growing as a friend as well as growing each of the cast as characters.
So like the entire show.
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>>41828409
zatch failed because nobody was willing to look past the art and it was one of the few times it was more about the story and since nobody looked past the art there was no interest in where it was going leading the later big events and crossovers being far less focused and more about shit just happening, till the boys which was a long form story spread through episodes and small notation over time meaning an episode could move the plot for a set scene in an episode while the humor was surrounding the instance to keep it in tune with the rest of the absurd events going on around it.
>>41828433
>The first couple episodes established the cast in full.
False
>Entire show
except no.
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>>41828433
Twilight stopped being their friend to be more like their leader after S3
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>>41828444
Thanks for reminding me we'll never likely get any more cool build ups anymore like BWTB's villains. Tamers had this great way of bringing in random characters like an autistic crossover and it was very unique and special. Sad to say we likely won't see that again either. Also no Zatch failed simply because Tamers again didn't put that much effort into it and it was extremely short compared to his other videos.
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>>41828274
Yeah because tamers buy view bots LOL. Most inorganic mlp content in a while.
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Anyone find it weird tons of paragraph sget spammed after mods reveal they are helping shill tamers? But posting a few times too quickly is "spamming"?
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Finally back from 3 day vacation *coughs* faggy jannys *coughs* but anyways as usual I'd shit on these MLP content vid but seeing as this is definitely a season finale and it'll be like at least 2 months before you see another MLP vid. I can tell Tamers really did put effort into this one and seeing as he used some music dating back to 2012, he seems pretty well verse into the MLP fandom. Which is a shame because I thought he knew better not to stoop this low. I give this one a 0/10 as expected, but there were some moments that actually did make me go 'heh' so I'll be a nice guy and give it a 1/10. But next up on the menu is a fresh made Sonic Underground and I can't wait.
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>>41828473
Mods reveal this by... deleting shitposts?
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>>41828225
>>41828383

Tamers' idea of slice of life stuff is both mundane and then so far removed from what slice of life usually means in the same epsiode that it'd be considered a parody of the slice of life genre.

It meshes well with mlp because mlp is only kind of slice of life because of its fantastical elements.
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>>41828422
I see you, and thanks.
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Zatch Bell failed because 1) it's ugly and 2) nobody gives a shit about Zatch Bell. It's a niche series that even at its height barely anyone liked. Tamers' pony art is excellent and he's filling a niche that people badly want. It's simple market supply and demand.
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>>41828476
Why can't tamers fans be honest? Your lying is too obvious.
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>posts get deleted for criticizing tamers
>mods accidentally reveal, yes, they are in fact helping shill tamers
>essays get posted to bury it ,BUT ARENT SPAM BRO
Why don't you eglin guys get real jobs?
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>>41828481
Zatch Bell failed because you guys only want horse asses and uggo lesbian sex scenes.
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>>41828473
Not really, I browse /x/ most of the time so i'm used to schizophrenic anons spouting dumb shit all day.
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>>41828492
No, I want lesbian teasing. Serious lesbian romance sucks ass and only appeals to mentally ill people.
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>>41828235
Would.
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>>41828492
Zatch Bell failed because because they were 4 minute shorts released 6 months apart.
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>>41828503
>99.9 percent of the board is now confirmed mentally ill
So you're the .01 percent. Nice to know, but you're still a fag.
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>>41828235
[Muffled Vogelfag seething in the distance]
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>>41828235
Ass Piss? What kind of name is that?
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>>41828488
Then why don't the tons of other posts criticizing Tamers get deleted? Why is it only you? Could it be the parts where you shit on mods, and you're only using that as an excuse to justify your retarded vendetta against Tamers?
And why did you take off your Babs flag?
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>>41828552
It's pronounced Az-puss.
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>>41828552
chrysalis got pregnant through the butt after shining pissed in it.
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>>41828552
Chrysalis shoved her fat marecock into Shining Armour's arse and came and pissed inside of him.
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>>41828403
only if she can't get to a band aid in time
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>>41826426
>>41828235
I wonder what Cadence's reaction is gonna be to Shining Armor having a daughter
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Wonder what the next Sonic Underground will be about. You guys think it's gonna be about the Uncle Chuck/Bartleby circus vid he was planning on getting to at that bronyfag interview he did?
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>>41828583
I wonder
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>>41828481
I liked Zach Bell. It had a really cool power system, though it was indeed never that popular.
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>>41828589
Like an animal killing it's inferior kin.
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>>41828583
Free kid, what's weird is how you guys don't acknowledge that this is the flurry heart replacement Maybe even the cozy glow replacement all in one
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>>41828613
>Cozy Glow
>kid
she's got a glandular issue
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>>41828552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-efxJ_XVht8
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>>41828613
From the ED it looks like Shiny impregnated Candyass so Aspis will probably be the older half-sister. I also expect Chrysalis to file for child support so she can get gibs like a proper black.
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>>41828634
Cadence could just be infertile since it's clear this wasn't the first time they fucked, and while we know he was with BB for a while, there was 100% sex on the wedding night
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>Likes Rainbow dash
>Hits her
>Cucked by Derpy
>Likes Shining Armor
>Threatens to rape Chrysalis
>Chrysalis rapes Shining Armor
>Farts on Sunset Shimmer
>Sunset Shimmer sets her on fire
>Devours the body of a dead changeling drone
>"WE did it girls, WE saved the world!"
>Proceeds to pay Chrysalis's cash bond just so she can get out of jail and be her friend
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>>41828445
Nothing changed, she was always the leader of the group.
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>>41828640
>Cucked by Derpy
Derpyfags wish this was true.
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>>41828640
To be fair Tamers Chrysalis is great so she clearly deserves to be free.
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>>41828640
>>41828646
Oh boy, the retards are about have a sissy slapfight in the thread again.
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>>41828646
we don't even know if it was her or bugbutt in manehattan
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>We're gonna get a time skip reveal that Derpy was the one who saved Rainbow and inspired her to try being a fashion designer again
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>>41828223
No the stallions drama worked because it played well as a melodramatic B plot, to the mane six's goofy shenanigans A plot. It's why Twilight Commits Arson worked so well when the A and B plot finally intersected and Twilight, Big Mac, and Soarin clashed(all still easily the best fight in tamers mlp series even though it's not the best animated, thanks to the buildup over 8 episodes)
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>>41828613
I think a major difference is Chrys being her mom and the drama around her existing as a rape baby so I wouldn't call her a replacement unless Cadence and Shining Armor take her as their own.
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I appreciate this scene. More rapists need to get their comeuppance in cartoons.
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>>41828674
>the stallions drama worked because it played well as a melodramatic B plot
yeah until Soarin and Braeburn made it the A plot
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>>41828683
But female rape is so hot
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>>41828683
rape is ok actually
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>>41828684
They never did, you're just being retard. Soarin and Twilight just got 2 part movies to finish off their arcs, and since S&B they've been in only 1 of 4 of the latest episodes.
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>>41828683
rape is okay when a hot female does it
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>>41828702
>you're just being retard
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>>41828583
I feel like she going to try and raise her into becoming a proper mare. She'll instill an underlying sense of shame for her changeling origins which would drive Aspis' aspirations to separate herself from her bastard blood.
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>>41828683
>Straight rape:
Rape is portrayed as sexy, Comedic loony toons beating afterwars, both parties are rewarded with a baby which will no doubt lead to cute baby funtimes in future episodes

>Gay rape:
Rape is portrayed as scary, both parties breaking down afterwards, lifelong trauma and thousands of bits wasted in years of therapy

What did Tamers mean?
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>>41828723
>Rape is portrayed as sexy/cute
You keep saying this but there's nothing cute or sexy about it. If you think it is then that says alot more about you than the actual scene itself
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>>41828683
Getting raped by a girl is hot, all my favourite fantasies involve crying and struggling while an overpowered girl easily pins me down and rapes me.
Still, the fantasy is incomplete if it's not actually rape, so I agree that rapists need to get their comeuppance. It's way hotter if she thinks the risk is worth it just to rape you.
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>>41828723
these faggots did a lot of things but rape wasn't any of them. The only "rape" that happened to any of the fags was Soarin in prison and he waved it off as a joke in the next scene
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>>41828746
This, not even Chrysalis enjoyed what she did
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>>41828746
I never said cute but you would have to be more retarded than pinkie to think it wasn't made to be sexy when 30% of the movie was jokes about how shining was an cute white femboy and Chrysalis being a whole entire semon demon. In contrast to Braeburn and Big Mac scenes which always leads to an uncomfortable situation after
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>>41828723
I felt like the Chryssi/Shiny rape scene was one of the more disturbing Tamers has done, and considering he's more inclined to use rape as a joke it's quite impressive that he can have some more serious situations if he wanted to.
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>>41828656
we do pinkie was only there for a couple of hours
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>>41828782
>Pinkie has been acting weird for WEEKS!
>She was only captured for a Couple of hours
underrated joke
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>>41828775
He never used it as a joke, it was a threat characters given when angry, the fact that anyone thought he was ever joking when even for SU sexual assault was a very clear thing is baffling to me.
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>>41828782
according to Pinkie who takes 45 minutes to count to ten. Multiple other ponies say she's been acting wrong for weeks
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>>41828723
You guys are fags. That's what he meant.
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>braeburn gets raped
he's literally asking for it
>shining getting raped
he's mind controlled, married, and repeatedly told chrysalis no and now they have a rape baby that is innocent of her mother's crime but will always be looked at as a reminder of the horrible circumstances of her conception
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>>41828753
I can't remember where but I'm pretty sure it was implied Big Mac raped Braeburn in the past but even if he hasn't a lot of things they've done could be considered close to rape, or at least actual sexual assault. Big Mac forcing Braeburn on his knees and spanking him in cloudsdale, the forced kiss in the Hot Pot video, Big Mac punching Braeburn in the face then kissing him right after to show dominance, Big Mac literally mounting Soarin in S&B and saying "In this position I could rape you, but I could also make it so much worse for you" before trying to bite and rp Soarin's wings off, Braeburn forcing Soarin into uncomfortable bdsm RPs.
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>>41828817
>I can't remember where but I'm sure it happened
I'll accept this at face value, thanks for your contribution anon
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13 days left until Sonic Underground kino. ^^
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>>41828718
Reminds me of how Flora is ashamed of being a blue pixie half-blood, which are the black people of Mobius, and has done everything to distance herself from it. Quite a sad existence to be self-loathing about something you can't control.
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Anon: It's kinda weird how the female on male rape is portrayed as sexy and the male on male rape is portrayed as bad

>>41828746
>>41828775
"N-n-no. It was not made to be sexy, it- it doesn't matter that this episode was basically an ecchi harem anime through and through with Shining Armor as the literal silent protag stand-in with not a single line of dialogue for the horny viewers. Don't think about Pinkie and Sunset randomly saying humans are sexy for no reason or why Cadance randomly put on sex socks"

>>41828685
>>41828688
>>41828705
>>41828750
"That was hot"

Never change /mlp/
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>>41828851
>skipped half of the replies to single out things that fit your narrative
never change /mlp/
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>>41828861
The replies who are all of which clearly 1 guy
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>>41828872
>everyone I don't like is the same anon
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>>41828851
I believe in equal rape. Women and Men should be allowed to rape, if you don't want to get raped you should get strong enough to be the rapist.
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>>41828513
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>rape
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>>41828877
this but unironically nice digits
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>>41828889
>One off from quads
Owari Da...
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>>41828851
>"That was hot"
I say this, this is an accurate description of me. I'm one of the posters you quoted and I jerk off to pony femdom. I self-insert as Shining Armor and fantasize about Chrysalis mind controlling me. I want a cute, powerful girl to literally own me. Female on male rape is portrayed as sexy in my mind and across the corpus of my moral convictions.
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>>41828899
how old were you when your dad walked out?
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>>41828811
braeburn is also a toxic bitch, we can at least say that shinning changed
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>>41828817
Everytime I see someone defend Braeburn I immediately think of pic related
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>>41828583
>Tamers aged-up the CMC so that he could replace them with asspiss and flurry heart

Holy kino.
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>>41828905
Braeburn would post that himself.
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>>41828877
>anon doesn't know who YhS_rEtTuLf is
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>>41828900
6, didn't walk out my mom kicked him out when his business went under.
I also despise real women, of course, but I'm sure that didn't need to be said.
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When will the real main character return?
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This one was kind of all over the place. It bothered me that Shining Armour appeared to attack Twilight and Sunset Shimmer but completely disappeared when Trixie came.
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>>41828934
did you watch the same episode I did? Shining and Trixie had their own fight scene
That said, I feel like although the AJ B plot was necessary to break it up, it didn't get a proper resolution
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>>41828938
>did you watch the same episode I did? Shining and Trixie had their own fight scene
Yes, a long while after the moment I'm mentioning. Go back and watch when Twilight and Pinkie escape prison.
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>>41828118
Just my thoughts
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>>41828933
trixie did make it back anon, she's now got a kid to take care of though
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>>41828942
why would Chrysalis have him stick around when Sunset is about to take out the problem? Plus: its dinner time for the loving couple
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>>41828973
why does trixie even like twilight? she's gross.
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>>41828987
She likes her bossy attitude
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>>41828973
face? traced.
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>>41829006
TRACE?
FACED?
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Okay I just finished the movie, new rankings

Su and MLP Crossover: 6/10
Raindow Dash Birthday: 7/10
Sonic Rainboom: 8/10
Twilight Teaches Trixie the Power of Friendship: 10/10
Unicorn Con: 7/10(this one makes me sad cause it used to be a 9 but the new movie legitimately soured anything to do with Shining/Cadance/Chryssi scenes a bit, still shows why Rarity is the best though)
Hot Pot: 7/10
Sleepover: 8/10
Twilight Commits Arson: 9/10
Pinkie Goes Bowling: 5/10 (same reason as unicorn con, used to be an 8 or 9)
DoTS: 10/10
S&B: 9/10 (used to be a 7 or 8 but my reatch last week bumped it up)
Toola Roola & Starsong: 8/10
g5: 6/10 (Izzy and Sprout were fun didn't care for anything else really)
Hearth's Warming in Manehattan: 9/10 (reminds me of earlier episodes)
Shattered Harmony: 3/10 (1 point for princest stuff, and 1 point for the rarijack stuff, 1 point for quality animation, sad I can't even give a point to flawless, man that movie was a mess)
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That's a lot of text for a bait post.
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>>41828987
Same reason Flawless likes Trixie: She has been confirmed as very charismatic in both her own words and Flawless saying that's also what she got from Trixie.

Twilight Appeals to Trixie as a former rival and a childhood rival, as well as being purple(the color of Trixie's hat),
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>>41829016
lowest quality bait I've seen since LA Knight got banned for spamming every thread in the catalog earlier today
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Time to update the black queen mural
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>>41829024
Check the last thread. Dumped a whole lot of Chryssi images.
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>>41829006
Prove it.
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>5:14 AM IST
up early this morning traceanon
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>>41827798
I can't believe we still have artists - and for a weird shitpost parody series no less. Are we truly here forever?
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>>41829017
>>41829023
Not bait, I was just promised Luna x Celestia and everything we saw of them was in the trailer Tamers had already posted and that pisses me the fuck off
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>>41829074
you got celestia x luna it just wasn't what you wanted because you willfully chose to ignore that celestia is the most homophobic pony alive
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>>41829016
DoTS still the peak. SH is (maybe slightly above) average, but still can't beat DoTS
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>>41829083
No you're wrong. Homophobic Celestia was exactly what I wanted, I just wanted more of it
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>>41828513
>>41828884
I would raise her and give her a fulfilling and healthy childhood.
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>>41829095
I'd fuck up that kid
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>>41829090
well they've got room for their own entire episode and/or B plot to bully Luna for being the big gay
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>>41826924
Colin Ireland thanks you.
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this has immense sonic and bartleby energy
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This is getting out of hand, now there are three of them!
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>>41829024
I want to slip a truckload of cheese into her next meal and hotbox her farts.
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>>41829074
nothing was promised, we know celestia really hates faggots since the first episode
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>>41829095
>Cadence will raise her husband's daugher
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>>41829095
The mom that stepped up.
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>>41829122
>all three are pure sex
How is Tamers THIS talented?
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>>41829148
That would be Trixie
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>>41829196
Flawless is Trixie's flesh and blood, she couldn't be a stepmom.
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>wake up
>see this

What do?
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>>41829204
Flawless is tied to Luna and Twilight as it was Luna's bond and twilight's magical tampering that allowed Twilight to take Trixie's genes, there for Trixie is only a donor in the relationship. However she then fucked twilight and accepted her role as Flawless's mom.
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>>41829213
actually it was Rarity but go off I guess
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>>41829216
Rarity was the syringe
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Braeburn: Now now, you never know what the future will bring

Imagine how /mlp/ would seeth
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>>41829231
Will Braeburn get manpreg?
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>>41829231
can't wait for the B plot where Soarin and Braeburn try to defend their black interspecies rape baby from the pedophile(s) that live next door
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>>41829231
>gets the Flora origin story minus the changeling populous wanting to eat her (so far)
She'll be hawking Celestialism by the time she's in her teens.
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>>41827563
No, it’s been shit since the mid-90s.
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>>41829288
Go back to Usenet.
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>>41829288
just QoS yourself in your router to 56kbps and leave the rest of us alone boomer
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>>41829206
instant sex
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>>41829231
why would chrissy let those fags have her?
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>>41829316
they paid her 7 bit bail (Pinkie was broke so she asked her only friends who aren't also broke)
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>>41829206
instant dumpster
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>>41829326
cumdumpster maybe
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>>41829344
Nope, landfill with the rest of deviant art trash
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>>41829316
Schizo will find the baby during his serial killer rampage and take her from her evil black mom, which will lead to a new arc about Chrysalis falling for a new white boy replacement
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What's the music used when Chrysalis reveals herself?
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AJ might be a massive jobber, but this was cool.
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God I wish that was me.
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>masturbated to flawless and twilight sniffing trixie's snow-pitties
life's fuckin' good fellas i don't care that ww3 is right around the corner i nutted and ate a whole apple pie with my bare hands without washing
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>>41829480
Top or bottom?
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>Chrysalis is suddenly a good character when she's being a villain
Oh the villain acting out her role as intended is good? WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT?

>>41826313
Heh you kids want quality discussion? hehe. Dare you DM me?
Discord: redmics
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>>41829465
>filename
FUCK
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>>41829490
not joining your gooncord
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>>41829506
I don't have a channel(yet). Might make one eventually, but people really aren't interesting in talking about media more-so than bitching about it.
Also Discord channels finally support threads so technically you can have entire forum in there. I mean you can Ctrl+F search for 7 year old posts in there.
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>>41829515
>knowing what Discord is like at all

I have no Facebook account, no Tumblr account, no Twitter account, no TikTok account, or Discord account.
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>>41829515
fuck off and make friends with other romanians outside
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>>41829534
>I have no Facebook account, no Tumblr account, no Twitter account, no TikTok account, or Discord account.
Ah so you go outside instead, right?
...
Anon... you go outside... right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utddDvJ1Rvo&ab_channel=AlexisRenata
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>>41826641
I recognise the sexual offences act 2003 anywhere, especially sections 9 (1) to 9 (3). i’m assuming that’s what you modelled this off. i’ve studied these statutes well :)
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I'm afraid to say Shattered Harmony unironically didn't feel like tamers. It felt like some gooner gave him a poorly written script then paid him a large sum of money for to make it, and Tamers said yes because he didn't care much for Chrysalis, Cadance, and Shining as characters to begin with, and Tamers needed a place to shove Flawless in so he could get her return overwith.
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>>41829561
Why the fuck do you know that
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>>41826641
>Banishment from Equestria, at the discretion of Princess Celestia or Princess Luna.
i think it's very funny that it isn't even specified their position as high princesses or whatever, just they specifically lol
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>>41829565
You have to come prepared.
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>>41829561
>>41829564
Spec 100% had an influence on this one, we already know Spec has been sending him a bunch of Chrysalis and Cadance merch. This video unironically felt like it was made by someone who frequents 4chan
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>>41829485
Ether is fine but I do like a girl in charge.
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>>41829561
>look it up
>it actually is the same
Lmfao. Lawyer or child molester?
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>>41829587
he's both anon, he's planning 5 steps ahead
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I watched the episode late
I thought it was absolutely fantastic, but does the board agree?
I am biased because I love sunset shimmer but even still
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>>41829633
Most agree that the only good part was sunset shimmer so you're fine, just don't scroll up
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>>41829633
This movie turned me into a Sunset stan and now I'm mad that she was only ever relegated to EqG crap and never showed up in FiM.
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>>41829633
70% of people loved it and ranked it between 8-10/10.
The remaining 30% hated it and ranked it around 0-3/10.
It's kinda weird how it only really seems to fall into those extreme ends, not many people just think it's somewhere in the middle. You either love it or hate it apparently.
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>>41829650
It's only a matter of time before Tamers introduces her and makes everyone fall in love with her as well
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>>41829673
because there are "tamers should be a circus clown" guys and "tamers makes kino drama" guys
it was a 2/10 comedy but a 9/10 drama.
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>>41829673
it's always like that with tamers, even i have a bunch of episodes that i didn't care for at all, but only old SU ones though i've liked pretty much all the pony ones so far
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>>41829680
she died in a catastrophic brap accident, just like glimmerfag would have wanted
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the episode was good, definitely better than S&B but not nearly as good as DoTS though.
I think the main issue in this particular episode is the pacing, it felt too crowded and like all the plot lines rushed to get to the next.
We have the main conflict which is the Chrissy/SHining/Cadence stuff, then we have the side plot with AJ/Rarity then we have the other sideplot with Flawless/Twilight/Sunset, and on top of that some stuff with Trixie and Luna.
It would have been better to cut the Flawless and Aj/Rara stuff and leave it for a different video, that way the other stuff could have some room to breathe.
Because it was fun, but the plotlines don't really mesh that well together, so leaving some out would have been way better and would have helped flesh out the main plots.
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>>41829680
I can wait for her to show up to fart and shit and then everyone will clap.
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>>41829714
I'm not a mutt, I don't clap to movies.
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So did we ever find out what Rainbow Dash was doing off screen? Was she really just trying on dresses the entire time while the world falling apart around her?
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>>41829633
I enjoyed but but acknowledged it had issues with pacing that held back some parts of it
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>>41829713
I agree. Rainbow Dash just vanished from the story after her fight with Chrysalis, and Applejack's side plot didn't go anywhere. I feel Tamers is trying to set up so much shit at once when it would have been better if he just split up these plots into different episodes so they all can flow a bit better.
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>>41829731
Not while the world was ending, no. Rainbow is notoriously afraid to admit how girly she is. For example, she repeatedly denies enjoying going to the spa because that's too feminine, but is often caught relaxing there by herself.
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>>41829713
I think the AJ/Rarity subplot was absolutely necessary to break up the main drama but I was also thinking the Flawless storyline could have waited for another video
If you cut both you'd have had another S&B where it just dragged on and on and on
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>>41829680
Unlikely, she's not necessary for anything and as tamers is showing he's more interested in Adding in Flawless, new bastard child from the bug, Sci Twi and Sunset, and the adult CMC. Starlight has no real place and likely won't even be part of what's coming next, outside of the same level of background pony appearances she gets now.
>>41829739
>d Applejack's side plot didn't go anywhere.
This isn't really true, it went somewhere as now AJ is free from the family and Granny smith, as well as Schrodinger's apple family member, are dead. It even went on introducing the reality that Rarity is unhinged and willing to kill as long as she thinks it will help AJ or that AJ will approve of it
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>>41829751
you know its real weird that Granny and AJ both deny killing all those ponies and Rarity just happened to be there when AJ ran away..........
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>>41829689
But I thought both the comedy and drama fucking sucked, I thought it was a miss all around
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>>41829739
Yeah, pretty much, from a purely technical standpoint the episode suffers from its pacing.
If it feels too rushed then the story suffers cause we don't have the time to diggest any plot.
>>41829746
Perhaps, it is true the AJ/Rarity stuff did cut the tension, but I would have kinda preffered it on a different video, the point of subplots is that they related to the mainplot in someway, the AJ stuff feels like it isn't even happening at the same time than the Chrissy/Cadence stuff
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>>41829753
actually, Rarity also shows up with her bag already packed when AJ is running away too
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>>41829713
I feel flawless can stay since it's main purpose was to let Tamers skip time a bit in what is stated to be a 3 day battle where no party could lose meaning if you took it out you suddenly have to have tamers still forcing in a new excuse to not animate what amounts to a fight that's supposed to be 3 days long and in a stalemate. Flawless's secotion is notably shorter than AJ and Rarity as well meaning you could keep it while then using the new time in the 52 min run time to do more of Shining v Trixie or show a bit more of the fight before luna and celestia show up since the black bug just isn't there during that part for some reason.
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>>41829713
>definitely better than S&B
Hard disagree. S&B was so long that it was boring at times, but had a story in there. Fast forward through a few scenes and it's great. This one was short and had action without either a buildup or payoff, and so much happened off screen.
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>>41829689
Tamers makes kino drama and I like the movie.

Pretty sure the issue for people who hated it is that the number of developments per second ramps and then skyrockets and people who technically have actual brain problems got over stimulated.

That sounds mean but I think it's correct.
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>>41829753
>>41829764
Most people know this was the pay off from the ED just like everything else from this movie, where we show Rarity's growing obsession with AJ and the CMC also being somewhere in the mix. Rarity is 100% the murder as she very clearly knew way too much about AJ's life even when she showed up and how she talked about it. From the moment they escape to how she acts, she was all too willing to do whatever it took to get AJ away as well as bringing up the fact she didn't want AJ to really over take granny because it meant she might leave ponyville and by extension her
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>>41829773
I think it had some problems, but I mostly agree with you that it was still pretty good. I don't think people pointing out the flaws are brain damaged, that's a bit much.
The B plot went nowhere after Granny Smith "died" (guarantee you she'll be fine next time she shows up)
The Flawless C plot was completely unnecessary and should have been its own episode imo, I think was just an excuse to get Twilight out of the picture for the big fight and to time warp
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>>41827906
>king arthur
>pre islam
What? Romances peaked during the 13th century when islam had existed for a long time. Tristan and Isolde has a muslim knight in it (who loses a duel, gets forcefully converted to christianity and has his skin turned white miraculously during it).
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>>41829780
>The B plot went nowhere after Granny Smith "died" (guarantee you she'll be fine next time she shows up)
if this were SU, maybe, at best she might be said to be in a coma but tamers has been setting her up as the issue that held both AJ and BM back, as well as starting to do the same with AB. He likely plans to keep her dead simply for consistency with her story. kinda like how he does Sonic's dad in SU where he's always referenced to be around and active but directly avoiding his wife and for the few times we see him, he will never have his face revealed
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>>41829769
Well, the flawless stuff did connect with the mainplot in that way I suppose, but the AJ/Rarity stuff had no reason to stay, even though it did cut the tension (Maybe Pinkie could have worked for that, she was great the little we saw)
>>41829770
While I get where you are coming from I have to disagree, it is my preference, but I'd much rather have a more compact straight to the point plot, than a slow, repeating plotline, I can see myself watching SH again in its enterity the future, I cannot watch S&B without skipping it, and that is a major flaw
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>>41829781
This. People forget that though Arthurian legend takes place in the post-Roman Britannic dark ages, they weren't written down until well after the Norman conquests.
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>>41829781
>gets converted to christianity which turns his skin white
Holy kek
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>>41829796
As with all medieval art there’s no clear sense of time or place in any of it. Modern fashions and events get placed next to ancient ones. They fight an evil pagan roman emperor called lucius at one point even though that makes no sense in a world where arthur got his sword at westminster cathedral.
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>>41829795
Flawless's stuff was mainly supposed tto be the Twilight & sunset pay off so to speak, Sunset directly states she's only around because celestia told her to track down dark magic and Flawless goes on to explain her world hop but the way she explained it, and sunset corroborated it she didn't last more than a day and couldn't really even fight her before Sunset put Scitwi in a coma; so an argument could be made that could have been an episode but given it was full human world he may have just considered revealing in here more impactful since it was more surprising that way.

Arguably if Pinkie didn't confrim her kidnapping as only a few hours ago maybe that could have been an over time thing but again it seems moot since it didn't mean much even by the plan she explainedwe all know Twi's inheritance wasn't that much and Pinkie likely ruined that PS5, plus she goes on to point out that the plan was complicated and really stupid since she didn't really need any of that shit anyways. Arguably the only purpose of the plot was to get Twi & Pinkie kidnapped so they could team up with Sunset and meet back with Trixie.

Flawless' roll in it all was to bring her back to the real world and give her new direction while also acting as a cover for the battle going on outside.

Again, the big thing was, outside of pacing, the movie was really short in comparison so it didn't get the time it really needed for much of it's actions like Cadence showing up, Luna and Trixie just joining the Fray, and the battles between but cutting stuff would only help so much since Chryissali's big final plot wasn't fully built up before now, her motives were but her plans to make it weren't leading to tamers making her give a big description as to what she was up to.
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>>41829824
I mostly agree with this. This movie needed more build up SOMEWHERE, it feels like this was a sequel to DoTS' end credits more than anything else
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I know Tamers personally and I can say he is thoroughly disappointed with the way this episode turned. After the homophobia and negative feedback of the S&B, g5, toola roola and starsong, and the Christmas special, he tried going all in on gooner fanservice for this one and it ruined his story, specifically Cadance, Chrysalis and Shining. The g5 references were all jabs at /mlp/. He's not going to make that mistake again though and is going to start doing what he wants again. Also the next episode is going to be really, really gay with stallions
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>>41829833
>the next episode
>stallions
are they making a SU cameo?
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Are baiters using ChatGPT to make paragraphs now?
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>>41829849
>Can't recognize AI
>Also uses AI as an explanation

You know AI is like really obvious to anyone who's not retarded, right?
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>>41829831
That's how I felt about it most of this film and it's runtime felt more like he was arguably feeling obligated to wrap in the promises he put in over time from previous movies but as we know at least 1 confirmed scrapped episode exist, time got lost somewhere in the mix. It did feel like a season end of sorts based on just how many plots he concludes for it, but it seems like this might have been what he meant all that time ago back when DoTS first came and he admits he spread them out cause it felt too crowded which this really did.

I don't feel he was all that happy with how it ended up fully coming out given the track record but with the Christmas special and December having him openly announce he plans to get back to SU since he has been neglecting them and promised 'when MLP is done' he didn't want another zatch bell esque situation where he keeps delaying the film to make more episodes or make it far longer because after it's done he'll only get a 2 week break max these days especially with group expectation and given promises.

I think he felt like he was out of time and keeping too many people waiting and didn't want to delay it since then it might end up like the nightmare night episode where a good section is done but then he scraps it in full, something he openly admits SU has a lot of episode wise.
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>>41829561
kek
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>>41828753
?????
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Why did you answer my question with a sarcastic question of your own? Why weren't you capable of just saying "no"?
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>one person is putting out so much content he doesn't have enough time to get it all out there
this doesn't make any fucking sense
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>>41829824
Yeah, if it had the lenght of S&B it would have probably felt better, the opposite is true for S&B thinking about it.
>>41829831
The movie needed a bit of build up before hand, everything gets dumped on us suddenly.
>>41829833
>Also the next episode is going to be really, really gay with stallions
I mean, I'm not surprised if he does, but trying to cater to retards is always a bad move anyway.
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>>41829858
I will also say this is the only place where these comments are showing up, the youtube slobs are eating this shit up
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>>41829862
>sarcasm
>the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

>irony
>the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
Don't see anyone being ironic or mocking recently.
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That's a ChatGPT response and, once again, the use of sarcasm instead of an honest answer. There's no one in this thread who believes your doomposting because it's obvious you're replying to yourself and you're using outside resources to try and appear like different people using different writing styles. Just because you're retarded doesn't mean the rest of us are.
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>>41829831
>>41829870
I want to add it's semi clear he was possibly working on this one since he finished the holiday special as he was technically on a back log by this point and was late even on the credit less ED releases even skipping the toolaroola & Starsong episode ED and only released them after the trailer. And during the episode, like another where he admits this, he even lost some footage or accidentally deletes it on occasion so he may have been over whelmed and realized he was behind and felt he had to put something out.
>>41829871
Well, from a less critical view, it's still a fine film, had lost of good moments and if you ignore stuff like we're directly getting on, it's still a fairly good film that just feels a bit too fast.
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>>41829871
>this is the only place where these comments are showing up, the youtube slobs are eating this shit up
Are you really that surprised? the youtube comments are always an echo chamber, and the most positive opinions are always put at the forefront and any critique no matter how right it might be gets downvoted into oblivion
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>>41829876
the views will reflect reality. this will get a lot more than the faggot shit because it was better. nobody cares if you are the guys personal ass wiper, your cope doesn’t align with reality
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>>41829874
I don't think I've ever seen chat gtp do anything like that.
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Either answer the question or don't reply to me. I'm responding to you only because we're at bump limit. Don't do this in the next thread. It's okay that you're not happy the gay stallions aren't as popular as girls. MLP is a girls' show. The girl characters are supposed to be more popular. It's really that simple.
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>>41829876
Yeah, like I said, it's not a bad movie, not even one of his worst, it's just way too fast and tries to wrap up way too much in too little amount of time.
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>>41829890
it just feels so much more disappointing because it had better potential than DoTS and didn't hit the pacing mark at all
I wish he'd taken some more time, shit out a filler SU episode or two since he's already said he can dump those out like nothing, and really polished this one to perfection
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>newfags don't remember World War 3
Oh wait no we all remember WW3 it's Tamers who forgot his lesson from it LMAO
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>>41829894
Yeah, in that regard it is, but it does go to show just how well done DoTS is on a plot and technical level. I highly doubt we'll get anything close to it, but the potential is there
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>>41829871
That's the case for all his videos regardless of quality
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>>41829887
k

Not capable of saying "no" because "no" does not express what I want to express.

Can't answer why I responded with a sarcastic question because it was not sarcastic in any way.

Responded with a question because I wanted an answer to the question which I responded with.

There, that's all the question marks accounted for.
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>>41829890
It's a fine movie in my eyes, if I cut it slack it's a solid 8/10 on rewatches especially if it's just for the fun of it.
>>41829894
>it had better potential than DoTS and didn't hit the pacing mark at all
I can't fully agree to this simply because of who the focus was about. Cadence and Chryissy weren't exactly heavy hitters though out and while we knew what the bug was about and what she wanted a few episodes made it feel more like she was working her way in rather than planning on using force. Compare it to the last two where they leading in off plots we were following or were two episodes back or so with characters we didn't see as much but had somewhat clear set up for.
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>doesn't use ChatGPT
>immediately starts reddit spacing
>still doesn't answer the original question
o i m laffin
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>>41829881
Views don't reflect shit though. More people know about Twilight, Trixie, Cadance, Luna, because they are the main characters of mlp. Literally nobody knows who Braeburn and Soarin are. yet their movie is about to hit 200k views which, while still 50k behind DoTS's views, could still be argued as the 2nd greatest feet he's ever done by turning Braeburn and Soarin into his own OCs, behind making bartleby Montclaire of Dresdin a popular character.
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>>41829913
shining armor is so lucky
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>>41829913
Unironically better than the shitty movie
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>>41829916
>views don't reflect shit
>uses views as a metric for how good the gay stallions are
huh??
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>>41829911
>starts with accusing people of using chatGTP like we can't tell the difference
>eventually comes out that he's pro chatGTP and demoralizing

Couldn't help yourself.

Anyway, it is like asking "are people ripping out their fingernails?" Yes, someone's doing it. No, they don't represent a notable portion of the population, and non-retards generally know when they show up.
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>>41829924
I meant to say comparing views between stallion and mare videos means nothing because both types of videos are very different and bring in different crowds, not that views as a whole don't matter.
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I never said I was ChatGPT so now you're not only refusing to answer the question, you're deflecting and lying. All you had to do was say "no" from the start, but you can't for whatever reason. You're scum. Don't post in the next thread.
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>>41829931
I also did not say you were chatGTP.
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>>41829907
I still think their story had better potential, but I will amend my statement to say that I think the pacing issue extends beyond this episode into the entire series as a whole. Imagine if instead of SSaTR, G5, and HWiMH we got three focused episodes building up to this
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>>41829931
And also my answer was not "no"
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>>41829936
Imagine if we didn't have the faggot horses clogging up the story.
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>>41829940
hate to break it to you but the only nonfaggot horses were the ones clogging up this story
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>>41829944
Cool, but imagine if we were able to get those three episodes building up to this movie because we didn't have the faggot horses clogging up the story.
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>>41829881
>>41829916
>>41829924
Views reflect popularity and bias.
For example, looking at Tamers channel as a whole all his MLP videos have more views than his SU stuff (which makes sense since the mlp community has been starving for a while and a ton of mlp youtubers started showcasing his stuff) The G5 video is one of the worst performance wise because very few actually liked G5 (It also has the worst thumbnail so that doesn't help) The DoTS and S&B movies are his better performing videos since they were super anticipated by a lot of people, that's why the Hearth's warming episode performed so bad, there was a burnout from the previous movie
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>>41829946
I get it, you're mad at cartoon horses because your uncle touched you
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>>41829951
Cool, but imagine if we didn't have the faggot horses clogging up the story.
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>>41829936
Don't feel that would have added, honestly because those episodes build out the rest of the cast tamers wants as well as playing a role in the world building. A good portion of Pinkie and Rainbow's character development is predicated on 2 of those while 1 is showing Twilights growth due to Trixie and how she now acts to others. It would be like trading several good to fine episodes for just 1 film which seems unrealistic since the other ones didn't need those and were just able to go on. I feel the only real fix would have been saving the arc for S2 or splitting it into a 2 parter instead because of just how self contained the dynamic and plot of the bug vs the princess really is.

Have the first half show Black bug kidnapping Twi and revealing the key players with Trixie or flawless returning being the cliff hanger and then the second half is about the fights and ending. If the time is split into 52 mins for each episode there's no real issue or change with it since it will just fill in the missing areas and split things up a bit more. If you really push it you can even have the Cadence vs Chryss fight start in part 1, have an inbetween episode deiced to the 3 day stalemate and Trixie v Shining, and then have part 2 drop in with Twi and Sunset purifiying Flawless and then having an extended version of what the ending speeches were
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>>41829973
Honestly if the episode release order went Bowling - DoTS - SH with nothing inbetween it would have flowed better. Also just scrap Rainbow Dash entirely because she didn't even need to be here.
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>>41829973
I think starsong and toola roola add nothing and you can expand on pinkie and rainbow dash without the hearths warming special (especially since he threw all of that into doubt by implying it wasn't even Pinkie) inb4 "she was only captured for a few hours" cope
The only one I would agree has potential is G5 and most people don't even want those characters
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>>41829947
The thing you have to keep in mind though is you can't really judge popularity based off of only views because a lot of Tamers videos are very different from eahc other that even youtube doesn't know how to share his videos. We know for example that the stallion videos have a much larger female audience, and also bring in more patreons and so it has more of a core audience(which is why they're in the threads every single week defending it) Videos without the stallions and star characters like twlight though, will obviously have better time in the youtube algerithm, and we know they typically brings in more males and passerbyers. I agree about G5, but also the Hearth's Warming special performed bad because it was age restricted immediately, and also, really, who's going to watch a Christmas special after Christmas?
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>>41829979
Starsong and toola add more to the direct stories and characters as that means these version of them are a mix of their G4 and G3.5 but that both bombed at their dreams and goals leading two both why the two get along so well compared to everyone else, something that has been prevalent from birthday onward, as well as the ED of the movie where it shows them both actually trying to learn the things they are lying about.

Also semi undermines rarity since rainbow and her are both fashion ponies in a world where ponies don't need clothes, which ironically ties into where Tamers takes rarity since she is straying so far form just being the fashion fart smeller she was
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>>41829984
so basically
>faggot stallions or for diehard true tamers fans
>mareshit is for retarded tourists that don't actually get tamerskino
got it
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>>41829996
Cool, but imagine if we didn't have the faggot horses clogging up the story.
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>>41829993
>starsong and toola add
>exclusively RD and PP stuff
so you don't need them or their episode, just a 30 second flashback, got it.
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>>41829998
??
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New thread alert: >>41830004
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>>41829998
yeah, Twilight and Trixie are getting pretty tiresome aren't they?
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>>41829978
>Also just scrap Rainbow Dash entirely because she didn't even need to be here.
I considered this but then remember that technically, that is rainbow dash's ONLY big moment. She got tapped in SB, was commentary with Pinkie in DoTS, SB also had her plan to cut ties with twi fail hard as twi won them right back over meaning she doesn't have much else going on anymore. Ironically even derpy has a heroic moment compared to her since she saves Pinkie and overcomes the block; I think this issue boils down to feeling like she maybe should have been part of the dawn chasers but got lost in the midst of everything else.
>>41830001
RD and PP are critical main characters and part of the M6, SS and TR are part of the G3.5 M7 and now critical cast members who bill higher than the bug and sit next to SBM.

if it were fluttershy related then sure you could cut them but they gave more character insight to RD, PP and even the growing Twilight
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>>41830008
Newfag alert: >>41830008
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>>41830015
>so you don't need them (referring to starsong and toola roola) just a 30 second flashback (to get the gist of the conflict you presented as it pertains to rainbow and pinkie)
I'm sorry, I forgot I'm surrounded by retards so I have to reread your own posts to you like you're fucking three
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>>41830043
Anon by your own logic, this movie could have skipped over the entire first section before Trixie shows up with a flash back to explain it since it doesn't really matter as these characters are very sidelined.

TR and SS were more important than The bug as they showed up and immediately do things when they do, Chryss has been doing nothing for multiple episodes and then admits her own plan is stupid
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>>41829996
>faggot stallions are for retarded normie turists
>mareshit is for retards that actually get tamerskino
ftfy
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>>41830052
>TR and SS were important
lol fucking lmao, they were a credit card flash in a throwaway christmas special that'll go nowhere
>by your own logic, this movie could have skipped over the entire first section
yeah, or it could have expanded on it because it actually involved important characters, not randoms that were added to advance someone else's plotline
Imagine if instead of piss and pedophilia jokes we got better hints that Pinkie was acting off, ponies doing weird things, "animation errors" with green eyes, Rarity being around when ponies disappear, or a million other things that could have built up this story with 22:09 extra runtime (SSaTR minus the aforementioned thirty second flashback that explained why pinkie and rainbow have a connection)
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>>41830069
>lol fucking lmao, they were a credit card flash in a throwaway christmas special that'll go nowhere
you say this but I'm sure you didn't know they'd be back to begin with showing they'll be recurring just like SBM.
>yeah, or it could have expanded on it because it actually involved important characters
Chryiss, Cadnece and shining weren't important. That's what your failing to get. It's why there is a lack of build up: They are involved with virtually none of the main cast with even Pinkie being one of their only major engagements though out their entire saga because Twilight didn't go bowling and sent pinkie instead. They have very little prescience in this series out side of the EDs and are unironically comparable to how important the CMCs are in this series.
>Imagine if instead of piss and pedophilia jokes we got better hints that Pinkie was acting off,
This was never the plan, hell even pinkie says it was basically less than a day before she got kidnapped because the plan itself is a means to do nothing by even her own admission since it doesn't go anywhere or give her anything she wants.
>rarity
doesn't take a genius to figure out this in the small time they did give to this plot which should have just been it's own episode.

The story was unrelated to everything else and more important it was unrelated to any of the actual main players of the universe, even the reason for grabbing twilight was predicated on Pinkie still having the sparkle family will. Majority of her plan can be skipped and we can just start at the point where Trixie shows up or Sunset rescues Twi and Pinki having a flashback to Chryissalis grabbing them because, as has been said, she dumps the plan less than mid way though because the only thing even the brainwashing builds up to is the rape that results in a child, nothing else. You could swap out the entire first part and because it goes on to matter that little over all in the film.

Meanwhile SS & TR both help RD and PP grow as people and show Twi's continued growth, they are only involved with main cast characters bet that the 6 or the gays, Chyssalis isn't and her entire story is so self contained it just had to force in other people since not even sunset is there for her, she's there for flawless
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>>41830097
>Chryiss, Cadnece and shining weren't important
you say this but I'm sure you didn't know they'd be back to begin with showing they'll be recurring just like SBM
>even Pinkie says
she can't count to ten in less than 45 minutes and you trust her reckoning of time
you're a retard anon and I'm done wrangling you, call your mom and tell her its time for bed.
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>>41830101
>you say this but I'm sure you didn't know they'd be back to begin with showing they'll be recurring just like SBM
We did know they would be back, because they are in several EDs with nearly as much prevalent as the CMC, who appear ironically as little as they do. Nobody knew weather TR and SS were just gonna be a one off but we now know they are living in the same areas as the gays and are fully friends with them now.
>she can't count to ten in less than 45 minutes and you trust her reckoning of time
We know she's right not only for the fact that tamers is smart enough to NOT suddenly throw away several episodes, mind you that is 3, count it, 3 episodes where it's actually relevant that they are in a real relationship, with movie 1 technically being only having it referenced for not even half of the first section.

Saying that Chryss was anywhere on the plan before the day of the film means suddenly tossing ALL development from the sleepover onward into the trash because suddenly it isn't even Pinkie Rainbow was with. Fact is Chryss has been, and always was a side character who's big plan was independent of literally everything else, even her second appearance is being a side to the Luna story in therapy with the next just being her thirsting over shining and actually trying to win him over or just glazing him. Not to mention, that if She took pinkie it would have had to be after Christmas when they got back so even then, at max, she was pretending for only a few weeks and being a bitch to dash which dash knew

Not one of those 3 appear that often as even the CMC have appeared more than them to date and had equal focus put on them in the EDs. You need to realize and accept they were a side plot as in not second but third fiddle to the actual main stories that all actually had major relevance with the 6, mainly the true MC Twilight



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