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From Tamers, watch it here on YouTube: https://youtube.com/watch?v=I29MjY4cwLA&ab_channel=Tamers12345

Previous thread: >>41826313

Group hug!
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>shattered harmony moved too fast plot-wise because tamers made so many soarburn movies
first we lost our nightmare night episode and now we're getting another world war 3... why do die-hard tamers fans have to suffer so hard all the time...
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>>41830004
I just realized what feels off about the dawn chasers: Pinkie actually does nothing and it's like 3 unicorns and one retard. It feels too lopsided
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>so forced you have to use gpt paragraphs
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>>41830023
Every group needs the ugly/useless one in it to make the other girls look better by comparison. Think of like The Thing from the Fantastic Four, or the black guy in Ghostbusters, or Ringo Starr in the Beatles.
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>>41830023
every group needs a weak link
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>>41830004
Femboy big mac when?
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>>41830033
He tempts my loyalty yet again
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>>41830023
Pinkie pie is the group bike, keeping peace in Equestria is very stressful and unicorns cant wield their magic accurately pent up all the time
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Tamergods, I missed out on thread #1 and nobody has linked it yet
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>>41830023
She's just a placeholder for the REAL 4th spot.
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>>41830041
Ah, for flawless. That makes sense to me. Interesting hair style she's choosing there too
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>>41830036
shes not the group bike shes the group moral support
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>>41830004
i preffer their old name
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>>41830014
Soarburn has potential to be interesting now that creepymac was introduced, but that storyline should have really finished with the S&B movie.
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>>41830066
>Soarburn
You mean BigBurn. Big Mac and Soarin are gonna be the new ship as the romance shifts
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>>41830023
Tamers is a hack, news at 11
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>>41830014
I still don't know how the gay community has so much disposable income that they feel they can grab Tamers by the balls and tell him to make more boring, repetitive content that doesn't go anywhere. The trio aren't like Bardonic at all.
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>>41830061
I swear every time I see a tjpones shimmer she gets thiccer
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>>41830033
guh
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>>41830076
Her figure changes based on his mood and what the joke's supposed to be.
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>>41830082
The joke is TJpones drawing nonpones
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>>41830084
He does draw ponies, but he always draws them with their bits so they can't be posted on a blue board.
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>>41830082
>every time I see
I don't actively look for his art anymore because he draws barbieshit instead of horse wife
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>>41830070
I'll admit it would be very funny if after all that drama Big Mac and Soarin end up together and Breaburn gets mayorly cucked
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>>41830090
that's what it feels like its building to, Mac and Soarin getting together and Braeburn + the magic that's obviously still in the Mac suit being the next gay trio villain
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>>41830090
Even the straights were asking for that to happen months ago because of how toxic Braeburn is.
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>>41830087
TJporns is just dumb. His style isn't made for it
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>>41830096
I disagree.
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Sniffy stinky mare pitties
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>>41830098
Ok, you can be wrong
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>>41830102
giwtwm
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>>41830096
this. Only reason I'm mad at tumblr banning porn is it convinced him to start drawing mid barbieshit and porn
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>>41830102
>>41830105
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>>41830040
these are the first two threads from when the movie premiered
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>>41830121
Thanks king
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>"AAAaaaaEEEeeAAAAAaaaa"
lel I love me these text to speech screams. So simple yet effective at making me giggle. Anyone else got any favorite moments from this episode?
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It's anon from the previous, previous thread. I posted this image, comparing her arc to Starlight's. After much thought, my defense is lowered. I really want to enjoy this character again. I thought Flawless should not have reformed and remained evil. Anyone, change my mind?
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>two straight sex scenes
Damn is tamers okay
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>two impregnation scenes
Damn is tamers okay
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i dont understand
how did we only get honorable mention? people are paying good money for tamers to make the goods. everyone loves soarin and braeburn. everyone's looking forward to the plot with the big mac costume.
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>>41830088
Seethe cope and mald.
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>>41830224
Who even remembered those polls were happening?
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Is zipp/hitch something popular in g5 or something?
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>>41830151
>Sunset why are you hereFANSERVICE
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>>41830233
his loss as much as mine, there are just as many horse artists as there are horse art fans these days so I'm sure we'll miss each other just about the same amount
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>>41830261
He's the cop and she wants to be a detective
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>>41830102
>>41830105
>>41830110
armpit chads are eating good
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>>41830207
There's nothing more dangerous than a straight femboy
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>>41830288
haha I was just smelling that, I mean I was just thinking that
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>>41830033
Damn the things I'd do to that ass!
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>tfw it's freezing as fuck where i am and i have no mares to warm me up via snuggling and periodic warm, dense, and humid blasts of their rancid ass gas filling the blanket
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>tfw no hooman stallion to keep warm with my gas heater and also to dutch oven under a blanket
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>>41830361
Why'd she have cotton stuffed in her ears? Ear furs are not that fluffy
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>>41830361
>how Glim would sleep with me under the blanket eating out her ponut as she rips an ungodly amount of gas all night to keep us both warm
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>>41830224
who fucking gives a shit? I don't know why you and other anons are so obsessed with getting tamers on this stupid list. It doesn't fucking matter.
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>>41830397
its not about the list its about getting the word out to a broader audience so that the majority of people can begin recognizing and accepting the struggle and reality of being a homosexual male but without the corporate mandated varnish tainting the pure image
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>>41830397
They're shills
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My homicidal can't be this cute
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>>41830184
wrong pic
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>>41830483
Mfw Flawless's farts are either double the gas, or the combined scent of Twilight's and Trixie's (and her own?)
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>>41830483
>someone saved my edit
Neat.

>>41830494
It'd be a fusion of each of their strengths in farting. So for Twilight that'd be smell/frequency/sloppiness. For Trixie that'd be length/sound and overall control. So Flawless has highly sulfuric, long, loud, sloppy and frequent bursts of gas that she can perfectly control if she so wished.
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>>41830102
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>>41830110
I popped hard when I saw this scene. It was even bigger than a Road Warrior pop.
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Where is he going with this? Also that was unironically terrifying when this popped up.
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>Twilight was that desperate for Trixie attention
What a good mare Trixie is, obliging her wife's desires even on the field of battle
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>>41830125
SunsetSparklechads are eating good.
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>>41830529
she's cute..
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Sunset
>Ashamed of being gay
>lied about getting dick

Trixie
>Open about her style
>Treats her girl nice, and even lets her get a wiff when she asks
>Has a kid
>Confirmed charismatic by multiple sources
>Has a cool cape instead of a gay little jacket

Trixie always wins, the moon always shines in the night while the sun spins like a discoball
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>>41830536
Sunset isn't dating Sci-Twi, because Sunset hates gays.

>>41830529
>>41830549
Strong Halo12 energy.
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>>41830207
I feel bad for both. Chrysalis wants genuine love and appreciation from Shiny but can't because he hates her for being a stalking cunt. Sure she's getting what she wanted but she doesn't feel fulfilled in the slightest, it's an empty kind of love that eats away at her. Then there's Shining Armor. Imagine having to be subjected to being raped without any way to fight back. He's just an emotionless husk that follows the whim of Chryssi with no control over his actions, he had to lay there and watch her violate him. The worst part is that he probably remembers all of it too, imagine living with that shame. God knows how he's going to react to his rape baby, Aspis.
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>>41830575
Now Chrissy has Asspiss to love and be loved by.
Unless she acts like a stereotypical black woman with her child.
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>>41830584
I bet the next time we see Chrysalis with Aspis she's suing Shining Armor for not paying child support.
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>>41830584
>>41830588
episode where everyone treats flurry heart like a white goddess while aspis is treated like dogshit for being black when
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>>41830529
It's petty funny how all the other characters are basically setlling down and having kids, the cmc are all growing up now and on their own so their older sisters don't have to bother with them. Meanwhile Braeburn, Soarin, and Big mac are straight up gonna be dealing with this fucker soon
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>>41830593
Kek this is good. Tamers better be taking notes.
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>>41830598
maybe next time they should stop associating with their trauma triggers and live a better life
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Would.
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>>41830607
brundlefly lookin' ass
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>>41830609
I posted her on the filly thread and one anon thought he was a "high-level troll". As a person who's watched Tamers for years and looked at his history online, I can confirm it would be too much effort if he is.
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>>41830624
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>>41830584
The cutesy Hatsune Miku song playing over that beating in that video still gets me, lol.
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>>41830633
B-B-B-BASED
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>>41830633
holy fuck how does he do it
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Ladies and gentlecolts: We got 'im.
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>>41830677
>Equestria Cunts
It died after it peaked with Friendship Games. Stop.
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>>41830682
What the hell are you saying, slut? It didn't get good until after Legend of Everfree.
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>>41830691
I haven't played that game. I heard it's an MMO. Does it have well-designed raids?
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>>41830691
Name one good thing you remember from legend of everfree
cause I can't
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>>41830741
The end credits song, the middle songs, and debatably the opening song. The villain is hot too
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>>41830743
As far as I'm concerned, you've basically just said the whole actual movie is ass and should have been a music video with a hot bitch.
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>>41830751
If what the caption above is saying is true then we sadly missed out on more Tamers drawn Equestria Girls. I really liked how he drew them in the More Than a Night ED.
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>>41830677
Gottem again.
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>>41830757
It's not true. It's like when he made a disclaimer that he hand-drew a Sonic Underground ending when he actually used AI.
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>>41830760
nah he actually did draw those
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>>41830151
>shit, how am I supposed to get a hit in when she's fucking Zipping around like that
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>>41830004
Will Tamers ever use Zecora in his story? She could be an antagonist fighting against Celestia's systematic racism. Only for the Dawn Seekers (KKK) to defeat her.
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>>41831076
>this character is technically the color black and we will use that for joke
kosher

>this character is a witchdoctor, genetically from africa, and they rhyme in the actual show, and my big idea is to make them black, by which I JUST mean make them a bigger steriotype
kinda cringe

Not a twist
not satire
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How Twilight manage her Trixie's relationship when being Celestia's bitch?
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>>41831145
Celestia will do whatever the hell she wants and the petty relationship decisions of other people are not her problems, just like the opinions of everyone else don't matter.
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Chrysalis has some bomb ass tea
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i hope that cadence raises ass-piss out of love for shining and ass-piss ends up closer to her than chrysalis
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>>41831203
so does shining armor
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Reminder
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socks
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>>41831208
She's already busy raising the inevitable flurry
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>>41831429
>flurry
Anon, she's not coming. She'd be redundant
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>>41831426
So it's just about impossible to try to represent godhood in a satisfying and relatable manner, because doing that is the opposite of godhood.

The princesses have mentioned a number of times some kind of ill-defined superiority, but this might be the first time it has been more than physical power and shit-talking.

A god is a concept, a will with a domain of some kind, and they have the concerns of that domain. They are often humanized, but never human.

Cadence is insane this episode, starting offscreen. She shows up having already been overtaken by some mental illness and then gets off-screened again by a timeskip mid-action. When she returns, she's talking directly about changing the nature of her domain and fundamentally changing the concept of desire using motivations that exist on some level above the concept of motivations, driven almost purely by the quirks of her godly aspect. The fabric of the world shifts visibly with her incomprehensible whims, as through she was a part of the fabric of that reality, because that's what she is, because she's a god. Her withdrawal from the world is the withdrawal of her concept from the world.

As an example, a similar withdrawal of the god of air would also be the shifting of reality so that there was no air, so that there effectively had never been air.

And in those terms, the socks use hero/magical girl comic/cartoon/anime visual language to represent a character's ascent into concept-hood. Being a skimpy dressed unrealistic hoe with a similarly incomprehensible mental state and expression IS being incomprehensible and aesthetic, which IS being a concept and symbolic.

If there's only thing about the episode I like, it's the way it swings its manic-paced incoherence like a stick.

>bonus
Ah, that's a nice idea. There might be something to say about this series if viewed in terms of mania and depression with regards to the pacing itself.
Thoughts saved for later
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>>41831491
>two childeren
>one white and one black
>one born of darkness and the other of love
>one a huge fucking bisexual polygamist empath bastard child and the other a probable violent totalitarian monster and worshiper of power granted superiority by birth

>how could this possibly fit into the story I just don't know
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>>41831518
that is a lot of shit you just made up to force in a narrative for a character when you seemingly forgot: She's a side character of a side plot
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>>41831525
Does being a side character make her redundant?
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>>41831531
it does when Flurry doesn't need to exist if the other kid already does. One child does more than enough, especially given Flurry isn't all that good or important even in G4 to begin with.
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>>41830004
Why is pretty much every character in this series gay or lesbian? Besides Chrysalis, Shining Armor and Cadance they're all gay.
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>>41831544
I didn't ask if she was redundant. I asked if being a side character made her redundant.

If you have to give other reasons to explain why she's redundant, then that would mean that being a side character is not what makes her redundant.

So, you answered "yes" and then you explained why the answer is actually no.

So, I'm gonna act as through you said something like
"No, having two childerent spawned by the same side-plot is what makes them redundant"

And simply, that's retarded. Get the fuck out of here, scarecrow.

>especially when she's not important in G4
Do you know what a tamers is?
Do you know what a bartlebe is?

It does NOT matter if they were good or important in G4.
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>>41830023
What about Fluttershy? Honestly by this point if i was Tamers i would just have her become a villain. Like a reverse of FiM and have Discord turn her into villain and into his faction. Much better than be a useless bg pony with less lines than Derpy
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>>41831551
That is blatantly the subject of the series.
That's what it is about.

Obviously it is and can be a metaphor for other stuff, but that's the framing device and theme the story uses as the language to convey its ideas.
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>>41830184
im glad she replaced glimmer nigger
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>>41831572
The author is a fag, isn't he?
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>>41831592
Almost certainly.
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>>41831551
>shining armor
Did you miss the episode where he left Cadence for a sugar daddy?
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>>41831596
Yeah I only watched this ep and like two others. They were all full of fags.
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>>41831562
>I asked if being a side character made her redundant.
It seems you're not getting it, She's redundant because of what the entire purpose of Flurry even is, it's the same reason that Starlight would currently be redundant to add as all aspects that make her a character are mostly taken by Flawless with other bits just being common parts of the world as is. Adding her in would be like adding in a second fluttershy: pointless.

>Do you know what a tamers is?
>Do you know what a bartlebe is?
Do you? He literally only uses characters from SU which doesn't have tons of notable cast members to begin with, he even skips over most of them if they have no direct connection to Sonic and his siblings; Bartelby is HIS favorite. As in it is because he likes bartelby that he's the star and main character, Tamers already outwordly admits to not liking characters like fluttershy and just culling half the cast that aren't the 6(discord and what not) because they weren't any part of his narrative direction or interest.

You seem to be under some misconception that he's writing G4 and not whatever the fuck he wants using the world and characters he likes, omitting anyone he doesn't or ignoring those he feels no need to engauge with just like fluttershy. Flurry has no role in all of this, she wasn't some big character of G4, wasn't really all that popular, and given she literally was a baby for the entire show till the final episode, she has nothing that likely interest him as if she did he likely would have actually included her like he did daybreaker or the G3.5,

The purpose of the new kid is pretty clear and that's that he's showing a continued willingness to alter the narrative to keep HIS story going. He has no obligation or otherwise to include anyone he doesn't care about or like much for that matter
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>>41831566
what ABOUT Fluttershit? She's as even twilight says a background pony and Tamers said he doesn't like her. Given how things have gone she's pretty much slowly being pushed out of every inner circle as she has no relationship, is the least liked by the main group and pretty much just not part of over half the episodes unless all 6 are present and she's there because she's part of the 6(She barely spoke in the last two movies as well)

You may want to be more concerned of the possibility he replaces her with Derpy at this point
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>>41831596
Yeah and he came back and now he's declared to be a straight femboy
Cadance can't stop winning
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>>41831604
Your argument is at odds with itself.

You accuse me of thinking tamers is writing G4
Then you argue that tamers wouldn't put flurry in because she wasn't big in G4

If the purpose of the new kid is to flex his willingness to alter the narrative for its own ask, then that would mean flurry heart and the changling child have different purposes and do not render eachother redundant.

arguing that flurry is a boring little blob with no notable traits does not help your case that she is redundant. They are separate arguments. Frankly, it's a better argument, but it also reveals that you HAVE a better argument.

I straight up accuse you of just having a gut-reaction against the inclusion of babies, which is pretty based because kids tend to be ass, and fucking up in turning that feeling into words, which is why you shifted from "it is redundant" over to "she sucks ass"

And on that note, flurry being an evil little shit is canon to the show and makes her pretty much perfect for a satire which uses the alicorns as above-mortal arbitrary forces of nature heading a fucked up society of privilege and prejudice. While flurry is only a little interesting, there's a reason fanon makes her a huge bitch and/or gives her the domain of war. Her name is literally "soul of damaging cold wind and/or rapid attack" and her birth almost destroyed her home. She has angles by which she fits in perfectly, to the point where it would be more subversive to have her NOT be a monster, though that would probably be worse for the show.
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Flurry wouldn't be redundant because Tamers would find a use for her.
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>not even 2 days
>already near 50k

Gay horses would never
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>>41830994
>random Pipp sniffing Zipp's wing pit
Tamers will be the savior of G5's corpse.
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>spec on his way to ruin Tamers and run another person out of the fandom
Welp the end is truly near, have fun everyone. For context, Spec leaked Tamers' discord account to a public server and was posting on Kiwifarms about how he had permission but when multiple people messaged Tamers about it, he said he didn't. To be fair though, Tamers was also warned by at the very least 4 if not more people about Spec once word got out so he ignored some huge warning signs but still ultimately, Spec is out to ruin another creator's life yet again.
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>>41831650
>Your argument is at odds with itself.
Not at all anon, you're just not getting it.

The entire point of the new kid is that his narrative is his own, independent of the way the show went past a point(mainly around S3 from where it started); Flurry's entire purpose in actual character was being royal child, nothing else. If a new royal child exist, there's no need to salvage the old one when the one he made is better. Tamers himself, doesn't want to write children that much as even the CMC, who he has had some plans and focus for, are now aged up because he seeminly didn't have much more room for plots that slide them in(there was going to be a holiday one but that seems like it was gonna shift to be more about daring doo given the cut he made); he has been dodging writing ANY kids in this entire show over half the time.

Flurry is redundant when her entire purpose of existence is now stolen by someone else, it's the exact reason I even brought up starlight as she's in the same space now. Compare such to G5, and while not great, they all still had a direction where he could actually take them.

You are trying to advocate for the idea he suddenly forces an entire plotline around a character he had no current intentions of making and out right replacing in a series where Fluttershy, an actual cast member, he virtually been removed to pushed so far out, most people forget she exists, as the reason for such was he not only doesn't like her but doesn't see her having any value and he has no interest in forcing said value into her. You are under some assumption that he'd do the same for a character who's worse than one of his hated characters. He just won't, the narrative you create would require him to shift not just from twilight but also his stallions who we all know he has no intention of leaving, that baby is gonna be a background character just like how he actually has been having those three though out this series because they are never really involved in the main events.


The show itself decided weather or not he actually liked a certain character. The logic you present goes onto the simple question of why would he do it for Flurry if he was never even gonna do it for Fluttershy?
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>ChatGPT homosexual unusually angry about Shattered Harmony arguing with himself again
You hate to see it.
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>>41831678
who tf is Spec. Not the guy that regulary appeared around the artist replica, no?
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>>41831664
but there were plenty of gay horses in this episode
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>>41831678
when will that nigger get hit by a truck or something?
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do you count the christmas episode as a movie?
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>>41831732
Holiday special
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>>41831680
>purpose of bug is independence
>purpose of flurry is being a royal, NOTHING ELSE, NO OTHER THING WAS DONE WITH HER, or could be done with her
>One makes the other redundant

you keep saying it and it keeps being a contradiction.

>kids in general suck ass and tamers doesn't like them
called it

>fluttershy was sidelined and so flurry could not possibly be included because she was less important than fluttershy
1. fluttershy is not without purpose in this series and is unique among her friends for reasons you can figure our yourself or ask about
2. I don't give a FUCK how important fluttershy was in g4, or flurry was in g4,. because this is not g4 and tamers radially alters the personality, purpose, and importantce of characters.

>the logic you present goes into the question
no it doesn't. I never asked such a question.

HOWEVER, I DID answer it. Answering that question is the first thing I did, and is what got you on my ass.

A character should be included for their utility, which here is their potential for entertainment value, which is tied to narrative purpose. In post 41831518, I point out a dichotomy which can be presented using the two child characters which falls in line with the overall theming of the series so far while using the tendencies of the changeling race, my expectations about a changeling raised by cadence, and the personality traits and actions of flurry in g4. The fact that these perfectly reasonable guesses are not proven is completely irrelivant, because at no point have I made an argument regarding what purposes these characters actually have or serve, but instead only what they can be used for, because my only strong claim which I am supporting is that the statement "She'd be redundant" is NOT supportable, and which IS a strong claim about how she WOULD be.

Because you are not tamers, you cannot possibly succeed when attempting to argue what his story will be, while I can absolutely succeed in arguing what his story can potentially be, because it can be anything.
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>>41831211
Damn I didn't catch that. I wish I had a nice warm mug of Chryssi pissy.
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>>41831615
Thats why Tamers should just turn Fluttershy into Warhammer Chaos acolyte traitor of ponykind in full armor as a prelude to Discord appearing
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>>41831747
>Independence
Anon, you are ignoring the rest of that reason, indolence of direction, not independence of character. The role she takes hasn't changed from what Flurry's was, instead she is filling the role with actual purpose.

>Putting words in my mouth
I factually told you only what has been done in the show, don't make shit up cause you just refuse to accept that.

>fluttershy is not without purpose
She literally is as to date, not only does she do nothing but she is unironically less important and prevalent than even derpy. She has no real role in any of the series and just appears like any other background pony, comparable to how Lyra showed up to deliver a quip in the Starsong and Toolaroola episode. She is not unique and this was literally a point of the only episode that gave any focus over her being that she is so useless she is searching for any thing that actually makes her feel special like being Chinese, something of which twilight flat out explain the only quality she has is being so unremarkable that it makes the rest look better. In the simplest terms being a less colorful background asset just like every other BG pony around them. That was the last time she actually had any lines of importance and even that episode was mostly about the stallions rather than her. G4 as a show formed the entire premise of weather or not he actually cares about a character like how DoTS is just a large excuse to have Trixie and Twilight kiss. It's one of the key differences in SU and MLP being that SU is a post series continuation in Tamers own words while MLP is just a course change but still picking up where MLP was to a mass degree, as MLP even does rely on watching bare minimum some of G4 to begin with and characters like Trixie just starting very close to her actual show counterpart. G4 determined who he actually viewed as worth writing about, same with G3.5 & G5. The origin of the story has always mattered here.

>A character should be included for their utility
False, a character exist only if Tamers likes them. That alone is the point, if he has no reason to enjoy them then he has no need to write a plot for them and then will be pushed aside, replaced, or ignored because they are unnecessary. There is no real theming to the series, never has been, much of it is just the narrative excuse to get the the end goal he sets up(Twixie, gays, rape kid, Sunny x Izzy, etc.) That is what your failing to get here. The only narrative purpose that will ever matter is weather he actually cares about them in the first place and what sort of end goal he desires to craft to make it to that very goal.
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>>41831786
>Discord
not much of a pony so he may just not appear, much like spike, who when questioned about Tamers just culled him by saying he's dead because AJ rolled over him with her tractor and twilight doesn't like to talk about it.
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>>41831798
He does consider Discord. In the recent stream he said he would have to change his design because I guess he is taking too long to draw
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>>41831805
Then that is a new story, he's gonna be a femboy and have a large ass He may even be Tamers
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>>41831790
Did flurry have the role of "independence of direction" or not?

>fluttershy paragraph
I am not even slightly interested in you attempting to explain to me how fluttershy doesn't have a purpose despite me noticing that she has one and will not be reading paragraphs on that topic and/or responding to them meaningfully. It's not the subject of discussion, which is exceedingly narrow.

I claim she had purpose and no amount of you not paying attention can take that away.

>3rd thing
Tamers liking them IS a character utility, and is also tied to their use in the story, because he likes to make stories.
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>>41831678
Someone needs to honor kill spec.
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>>41831790
>There is no real theming to the series
Oh wait neverminded this whole discussion you are an actual retard and there is no point in talking to you even in the slightest

Dwindling patience with you is expended

"I didn't notice fluttershy's purpose so I'll tell someone who did that there isn't one"
"I don't see the interesting parts of flurry shown in the show so there aren't any AND tamers couldn't possibly find any to use as inspiration
"The tamers mlp series (which is made of nothing BUT themes stuffed in and repeated over and over and over and over) has no themes and that's why all the things you are justifying using themes are all bullshit and wrong

Shoo and go you close minded uncreative fuck nugget
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>>41831725
>>41831849
he is right now present on /mlp/ discord general, you can speak with him
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>>41831824
>Did flurry have the role of "independence of direction" or not?
Technically yes because she was supposed to be a new alicorn with massive magic, there were no other baby alicorns, it's part of her being the royal child, that and selling toys,

>despite me noticing that she has one
You're making one up but the fact is both the show and tamers himself says she has no real purpose. It's quite literally why she isn't even involved in over half the EDs either, she has no story to tell from tamers and he has very little desire to change that. Her being an unimportant and unspecial character were the only things her episode ever says about her. That is the factual reality that has been very directly pit down very early on. She is as was said a background pony. No amount of you claiming it will change what it actually is from both Tamers and the actual show.

>Tamers liking them IS a character utility
No it really isn't, as it's never about what a character can do, it's what he can make them do for his narrative. Never the other way around. From a character like Bartleby ascending from random side piece who barely does much and is a very open coward and straight man, to a chad who's gay and the strongest being in the known universe, given powers and specialty beyond anything before because Tamers liked him. Tamers liking something means reality bends to fit that narrative just as Trixie having a twin and gaining more magic than ever become part of that same narrative.
>>41831855
I'm sorry you're actually retarded and trying to force what doesn't actually exist from the man himself's own words and opinions, but that is on you to be this stupid and then question why you nothing you keep suggesting ever happens.

Just admit you don't actually like where he's taking everything and speak of what you want rather than trying to put your impression against the actual reality of the situation. Making shit up in your head and being delusion over acting like it's the truth against the actual story is unbecoming
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>>41831859
>/mlp/ discord general
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post underrated characters
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>>41831911
He has the potential to be the series Mark
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>>41831859
>/mlp/ discord general
Yeah no, not touching that with a 20ft pole.
>you can speak with him
Also no, the most I can hope for is Tamers somehow finally sees what everyone has been trying to warn him about and cuts ties with the dipshit but who knows at this point.
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>tfw it's revealed (You) left Aleena to go to Equestria to get mare pussy
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>>41831973
that would be based but it's very unlikely.
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>>41831973
Sadly trammers is a fag that doesn't like anon
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>>41832022
Sounds based as shit.
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>Chryssi is a black mom with no dad around
Bravo Tamers
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wonder why its banned in Russia
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>>41832083
>family friendly? yes
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>>41832087
Tamers unironically watches his own videos with his mom. Whenever she's not buying him Taco Bell at 3:00 AM.
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>>41832087
that's just how invidious marks age restriction, every video in my subscriptions that I checked that loads is marked as such
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>>41832083
based, fuck rusniggers
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>>41832131
>hoholnigger thinks he based anything
shouldn't you be freezing to death on the front lines right now, pigger?
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>>41832131
>>41832155
Take your sissy slapfight back to /pol/.
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>>41832155
>hoholglobohomonazipiggers will freeze for real this time!
lmao
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>>41832397
russian autism is really funny and sort of cute.
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>>41831678
>Tamers has been talking to Spec
>Spec spamming him with Chrysalis and Cadance merch in the mail
Latest episode unironically felt like it was written either by, or for Spec. The gay stallion episodes had heart and soul at least because it was clearly Tamers passion project. The latest episode was basically just an ecchi anime episode with over-the-top fanservice in random places, no plot, shocking visuals, fight scenes and Flawless for the sole purpose of being shared around. If that's what you're into fine, but you all know it's true now.
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>>41832439
take your fucking meds
christ this board is filled with schizos
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>>41832439
Why do you act like it's Spec that he's pandering to and not everyone?
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>>41832439
I doubt spec has anywhere near that amount of influence on tamers, but I agree that the latest episode was rough. I still enjoyed it though.
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>>41832471
Spec showed him his 9 inch cock. Tamers want some of that meat. He said tamers could have it all if he put some straight ships in the series.
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>>41832471
Because he's not talking to "everyone" he's talking to Spec directly who self admitting to talking to him for hours of the day, supplying him actual show information, bribary, and merch
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>>41832490
He's still getting gifts and comments from everyone, so he's getting influence from everyone
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>50k reached

Up to be his greatest release
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>Spec: Tamers make a video where Chrysalis rapes Shining Armor and becomes a black single mom, it's one of my kinks
>Tamers: Spec stop you know I'm gay. Also I'm working on another gay stallion video right no
>Spec: Trust me bro /mlp/ will love it
>Tamers: I'm working bitch
>Spec: Want me to leak our chat history?
>Tamers:
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>>41832538
He also posted the Celestia plush
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Aleena and Flawless are my wives (plural)
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>>41832532
A bit behind DoTS and S&B but definitely his best release behind those two
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BHC slut
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>>41830584
It's clearly stated in the episode that she has no grief over her murdered children since she can just make more with casual sex (good God she really is black). But considering that it's Shiny's baby she might have more care for her, also she can be used as a tool to get closer to him.
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>>41832561
>a bit behind DoTS
correct
>and S&B
lol lmao
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>>41832561
Took a week for DoTS to reach 50k. SH already has that in less than 2 days
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>>41832582
Well DoTS was before Tamers fully came into true view
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>>41832561
S&B is genuinely the worst pony episode. Bowling, Unicorn Con, and DoTS btfo this and S&B and it's not close.
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>>41832573
>>41832582
DoTS got 68k in its first 2 days (You're all forgetting how fast it popped off)
S&B got 56k in its first 2 days
SH it at 50k in its first 2 days
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Are we actually gonna get any fallout or drama from Luna confessing her love to Celestia?
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>>41832599
Luna rape incoming, Celestia won't see it coming
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>>41832604
That would be kino. Revenge for the spanking and maid outfit.
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now that explicit rape is no longer taboo for his videos does that mean we're gonna get more explicit rape
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>>41832561
S&B is terrible and I'm glad everyone is finally admitting the truth
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I want explicit mare farts. I want mares to fart and kill plants and small animals from the smell.
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>>41832604
Luna jobbed hard to Celestia. She isn't strong enough to rape her. If anything this is just going to make Celestia abuse her more to keep her in her place. Maybe she's going to get locked in the dungeon's pillory and be forced to drink the piss vodka.
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i want celestia to rape the gay out of luna
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>>41832654
This
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>>41832654
this desu
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>>41832654
>In turn, Celestia realises she is gay
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>>41832669
>Celestia becomes gay but Luna turns straight
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>>41832597
Views don't make something good. S&B rode the hype of DoTS and bombed hard.
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man SH pace was terrible
it felt like the second part of something the whole thing through and it was still chugging along introducing new plotpoints
not even a scene of cadence calling out for sa (maybe even see her drop the mask and beat the living shit out of blueblood thinking he was hiding from her or something idk), rd just went home i guess, flawless' return was the most disappointing asspull ever
on the plus side we got tons of cute mares
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>>41832683
>bombed hard.
It's about to join the 200k club so you're wrong bitch
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>>41832643
You have never felt real love in your life have you?
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>>41832807
what is love? baby don't hurt me
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>>41832796
Agreed, I wish Tamers hadn't wasted so much time on the gay stallions so he could properly set this movie up. First we lost Nightmare Night to the gay stallions, and now we have another World War 3 on our hands...
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>>41832800
>views don't make something good
sick reading comprehension
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>>41832796
yea, it feels totally disjointed, I like every individual scene, but the whole thing is just kinda boring.

He should do more slice of life slop like the Bowling episode, that shit was peak.
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>>41832813
>"THIS MOVIE IS GOOD, FIM WAS THE BUILDUP YOU JUST NEED TO HAVE WATCHED THE ORIGINAL FIM TO GET IT. THE STALLION STORY SUCKED BECAUSE TAMERS SPENT TIME ON BACKGROUND PONIES NOBODY CARES ABOT"

>"THIS MOVIE SUCKED, EVERYTHING HAPPENED SO FAST WHY WASN'T THERE ANY PROPER BUILD UP OVER PREVIOUS EPISODES. THIS IS WHY THE STALLION STORYLINE IS THE MOST WELL WRITTEN TAMERS STORY EVER"

Make up your god damn minds
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>>41832815
>He should do more slice of life slop like the Bowling episode, that shit was peak.
This is literally all he should do. Drama is not his strong suit. I know he enjoys the anime references and stuff like that but they can still be worked into the funny, mundane episodes.
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>>41832840
the blame game is a free game you don't have to pirate
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>/mlp/ is one person\
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>>41832646
Luna is far more than strong enough, it is a matter of unwillingness.
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>>41832532
she will cause a great release alright
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I like pretty much every episode instead of S&B. Talk about a massive waste of a build.
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>>41833067
based
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>>41833067
lame but humorous bait
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>>41832908
I want her to release her gas all over my face. In my nostrils and down my throat.
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the granny smith parts were the worst parts
cornbloom and the fillies is the funniest shit ever
flawless taking twilight to the past was so cool but i wish that part lasted a little longer before the funny slideshow
10/10
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Yes, now rank every episode
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The chokehold he has on /mlp/
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>>41833257
every episode is 10/10
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>>41833277
Name your favorite episode that doesn't have Flora, Aleena or Sonia.
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>>41833257
>S tier
Bowling, Unicorn Con, Death of Twilight Sparkle, Meaning of friendship, bardonic is magic
>A tier
Rainbow's birthday, Hotpot party, Twilight commits arson, g5 episode, rainboom
>b tier
pinkie pie's sleep over, toola roola and starsong, heartswarming day
>c tier
>sorin and braeburn

Shattered harmony is hard to rank, specific scenes are S tier, but the overall experience of viewing it kinda ass
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>>41833286
The Hidden Temple episode is fucking top tier
The hot spring episode has some knuxonia stuff but it's mostly bardonic kino and it's amazing
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>>41833294
Good takes. I think you can drop the hotpot party and the G5 episodes to b, the heartswarming day to c, and the pinkie pie episode should be A tier, but past that i agree.
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>>41833294
>S tier
>Bardonic is Magic
I'm curious, why?
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>>41833257
>>41833294
>S tier
Bowling, Unicorn Con, Death of Twilight Sparkle, Meaning of friendship
>A tier
Rainbow's birthday, Twilight commits arson, pinkie pie's sleep over, rainboom
>b tier
toola roola and starsong, heartswarming day, g5 episode, bardonic is magic, Hotpot party
>c tier
soarin and braeburn, Shattered harmony

There is a lot to like about S&B and SH, but when the episodes are so focused on the story they need to be judged based on their story. And I think both of them fall flat.
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>>41833319
I'm a long term tamers fan who's also a pony fag, so when I saw the thumbnail for a pony episode made by tamers for the first time I shat and pissed myself. It was also before he got good at drawing ponies so every frame is also really fucking funny for how fucked up it is.

It's also the only episode where braeburn and big mac get the happy ending they deserved.
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>>41833309
The SU episodes are just funny as fuck. It's just constant jokes. The MLP videos are very funny, but in general none of them have the same level of humor as SU. If he were to do the MLP stuff for 2-year strait, maybe the comedy would compare. The MLP stuff has its perks, it's just the one thing Tamer's SU does much better than is MLP is the humor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLNWfdInD0M
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>>41833257
I don't think this would be that controversial.
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>>41833336
Bowling is as funny as his best SU episodes while still doing a great job with characters imo. I hope he does more like that and less of the movies because the movies are 2 for 3 ass now.
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>>41833340
Link to tier list?
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>>41832538
spec is a creepy psycho fan
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>>41833294
>>41833340
>>41833322
I think everyone is on the same page with the top tier videos (Bowling, Unicorn con, and DOP), but the rest depends on whether you are a gay horse fan, a yuri horse fan, or a SU fan.
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>>41833340
SH should be higher than Hotpot
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>>41833354
and G5 fan
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>>41833354
I really liked the big mac/braeburn fag shit, but soarin just has no charisma, he's so fucking boring compared to every other character
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>>41833359
There is only 1 G5 episode and I'm putting it under the SU fan category because it feels very SU like. Which categories the rest fall under as obvious.
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>>41833354
The my little pony meets always sunny writing is kino
the gay shit is sometimes cute but is boring 80% of the time
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>>41833365
I think he could have been interesting if it wasn't for his annoying oneitis for Braeburn. I mean it's pretty fucked up that he was okay with Braeburn letting Big Mac beat the shit out of him after he poured his heart out.
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>>41833372
Agreed, but there is clearly a large faction of the fans even here who likes it.
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>>41833376
>>41833365
name one funny joke soarin has ever said other than small penis jokes
that's right, none, every other character is used for jokes but him.
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>>41833376
>>41833365
The issue is Breaburn, Soarin is fine and even interesting, Breaburn just sucks
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>>41833387
Braeburn was ok to start with, but he never got any character development. He just stayed a prissy faggot going through the same few stories over and over. He has some good aspects to work with, but he's def one of the weaker characters in ther series. Big mac is the only member of the queer trio who's funny and interesting.
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>>41833383
His conversation with Dash about not being racist was funny. And his old man jokes are funny even if I think they're getting a bit overused. Breaburn sending him to the hospital was still funny though.
>>41833387
Braeburn would also have been interesting if him being a needy cunt >>41833376 was ever properly addressed. It was really only touched on when he gave that vague apology to Soarin in the movie and by then he was already forgiven.
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I hope Tamers does something cool with Soarin's costume. Would definitely be a good turn if he does an episode where he really nails the feeling of terror and fear. His silent jumpscare in the recent Christmas episode was pretty fucking neat to me.
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The best characters are Cryssi, Cadence, Twilight, Rainbow, Big Mac, Derpy, and Celestia, I clap and smile when any of these characters on screen, when they aren't it's usually boring.
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>>41833411
Pinkie Pie...
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>>41833406
The whole hallucination sequence or whatever it was is very interesting. I just hope it has a good payoff.
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>>41833406
I don't think he's ever really dabbled in horror, it'd be funny to see him try.
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>>41833415
some people just can't appreciate retards like we can
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The best mare, she's so good at magic and last longer than their god in bed. She's packing a big horn and really charismatic
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>>41833415
Yea fair, she just had a big part in the two latest episodes and she wasn't great in either, but she was kino in a lot of the other episodes.
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>>41833322
The only changes I would personally make move the bowling video A and move Twilight Commits Arson up to S tier, even if people don't like the Stallion stuff it's peak tamers where every single scene hits, and had easily the best fight scene, that also made sense in context
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>>41833415
>that scene where she goes back to rescue the kids
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>>41833365
He's one of my favorites personally and the scenes he's on screen with Big Mac are what I eagerly wait for. He's definitely the type of character that isn't for everyone though. He's almost (and likely intentionally) an antithesis to literally every character in the Tamersverse with how normal and kind he is, and explicitely stating that he's the only one in the world against racism and pedophilia

>>41833383
him purposely missing the toilet when pissing, getting fucked on live tv,
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>>41833458
I was thinking of moving arson up to S tier but I guess it's just personal taste that made me keep it in A. It just hit the same as some of the other episodes for me. Maybe I'm just bitter that AJ jobbed so hard in the episode. I agree that it had one of the best, if not the best, fight scene in the series though. I am interested in why you would move bowling down. Is it because it's a bit light on the plot?
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>>41833507
>It just hit the same as some of the other episodes for me
meant to say "didn't"
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>>41833507
There's just not much of a point watching without Soarin or Braeburn involved.
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>>41833512
Soarin is white & rich so there is plenty of reasons for just him
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>>41833507
Chryssi was funny and so was the schoolyard scenes, but not much other than that for me. Pinkie brought the same humor she brought in all episodes so her jokes in the bowling video didn't hit for me. I didn't care for Twilight's parents either and basically I think I just enjoy videos about the mane 6 in general.

It just felt like a slightly funnier toola-roola and starsong video with its guest stars
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>>41833322
I think I'm starting to appreciate the Bardonic episode more over time as these newer episodes are coming out because I just prefer the absurdist humor over the serious drama and I think the newer movies are taking themselves too seriously. The Bardonic episode is just grade A absurdism where even the premise is ridiculous which is what drew me to Tamers pre-MLP. The fact that Celestia is petty enough to let Equestria be destroyed due to her incompetence/homophobia is classic Tamers. I want another movie like that but with the same level of effort that was put into Shattered Harmony.
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>>41833608
I disagree, the crossover is the weakest of the episodes and most of it does really fall on the fact the Bardonic wasn't all that funny and kinda felt just boring as if every issue that could have been had with Soarburn manifested in one direct place but unlike everyone openly telling them they are shit or treating them with very little respect the story automatically glorifies them. Compare it to something like twixie, Luna's crush, or Chryssalis and they way they are played straight but openly hated for being fags feels more interesting and humorous because they aren't played straight but aren't suddenly glorified as automatically good or funny meaning the humor and draw feels more organic and dynamic
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>>41833286
>Name your favorite episode
IN CHRIST ALONE
MY HOPE IS FOUND
HE IS MY LIGHT MY STRENGTH MY SONG
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>>41833670
oops
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I feel that something that's neglected is bardonic is no longer actual absurdist humor, everything involving Bartely becomes formulaic in nature because Bartelby is invincible, unbeatable, uncontestable, and never wrong meaning the level of humor of being a world where fags are hated and are the scum of the earth doesn't hit as hard since Bartelby is always the exception which made the crossover sorta special since Celestia stood as such a big fucking chad and actually enforcing her violent homophobic nature down to saying the world should just end instead of letter herself be saved. Looking back, the same flaw ends up coming into play since for the rest of the series she is honest in her true homophobic bubble down to how she reacts to Luna and explains to twilight that she still hates homos but will tolerate and allow Twi because she is her student(and first groomed subject) but even as she keeps these beliefs it's noted that even she is contested in most things like being a female in a position of power.

Celestia is the more honest true absurdist in comparison, every action taken is chaotic and solely about being able to look down on others rather than the world shifting around her to meet such whims she forces it to kneel unlike Bartebly who just has the world move obstacles out of the way as he . Therefore only Celestia and tamers in his costume are truly absurd and perfect characters in these series
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celestia behaves like great cereal crisis bartleby
the same bartleby that got naked and killed a kid because the kid was homeless, begging for money, and tugged on bartleby's pants
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>>41833728
And that's what makes Tamers' Celestia sexy as fuck. SEXO the Sociopathic Immortal Goddess Mare.
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>>41832083
>>41832131
Youtube is completely filtered in russia, you can only access it with a VPN.
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>>41833738
She's got that
>Sociopathic Immortal Goddess Mare Aesthetic
otherwise known as SIGMA.
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>>41832098
Yeah, in the interview he said he won't make anatomically accurate ponies (horse pussy) because his mom watches his videos with him
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>>41830004
Dont trust tamerfags.
The content is shit and they only watch it because their waifus have lesbian ***
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>>41833777
lesbian what
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>>41833782
it's the epic new meme, people censoring cuss words that normally wouldn't get censored here, in order to get replies/(you)s
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>>41831973
impossible because chrysalis is alone
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>>41833286
yugioh king of games duel
>you look like a No 2 pencil
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>>41832807
If you've had an experience even close to the Soarin/Baeburn/BigMac love triangle I either feel really fucking bad for you or you are a massive prick
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>>41833294
>Specific scenes are S tier
I feel like this. I couldn't give it a number, because some scenes were bad and some scenes were very good. Here is my opinion chart.
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I couldnt be bothered to finish the third movie, it honestly just drags on with huge chunks of melodramatic anime bullshit. I think the problem is that Tamers' comedy is super unique but his character writing isn't, its mostly just tropey bullshit with gay horses and as a result my enjoyment significantly decreases when the latter takes precedent. I'm starting to see the cracks in the pony era tbqh. At first I didn't mind it, since the videos were effectively the same as the SU ones tone wise. Now things are shifting for the worse. I really hope he doesnt become too focused on drama shit and wholesome chungus character interactions because that isn't where his strength lies.
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>>41832599
Incestuous love saved the world. Baste.
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>>41833918
Usually humor would even that boat out and raise it up, but there was too much focus on plot and character. If there were more applejack and rarity funny sideplot this would be much easier A, but I feel like a B is warranted
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SH was such a letdown it gaslighted me into thinking the Soarin and Braeburn movie was good I just want back to watch some of it and it's actually way better than I remember, I don't know what's happening
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>>41834076
if tamers had any balls then Soaring would never have been able to fly after this
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wait a second
what the fuck is pulling the wagon
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>>41832796
God I wish I were Shimmy in that scene.
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>>41833277
I want to be good friends with Flora. Autistic girls are more often than not awful girlfriends if you yourself are also autistic. I mean I wouldn't turn down a "friends with benefits" kinda deal but still.
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What was the song used around the 30 minute mark? I didn't see it listed in the credits.
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>>41833406
For me I'd rather have a micropenis then a lower-than-average penis. At least I have a fetish for it, I jack off to them all the time imagining my life with one. I am so jealous of Soarin, seriously,
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>>41832439 I always knew that Spec was based all along.
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>>41834076
It was good the whole time bitch. Now slob on my knob so you stop saying dumb shit about how the gay subplot is distracting from the good stuff.
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>>41832842
>Drama is not his strong suit.
the dramatic scenes are his greatest strength imo
Too many good ones to list
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>>41830207
>Sexually motivated!
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>>41830552

That like the third time Tamers has used that pose.
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>>41833235
>the granny smith parts were the worst parts
Yeah, I mean Rarity is clearly the killer but no one is talking about that.
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>Tamers explicitly shows how much he's willing to lie through his teeth by saying he doesn't know who Sunset is right before she has a major role in the movie
>References the shim sham nickname, something incredibly hard for any newfag to know about
Morons will somehow still insist that he doesn't know.
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>>41834316
It's pretty clear he was an early-season brony who got tired of the fandom and is coming back to it about a decade later, but it's funny for him to pretend that he has no clue about any of this stuff. It's better that way.
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There's too many dykes
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>>41833349
Sorry, that was a single use one I've made since I couldn't be bothered to make an account and the only other tier list related to Tamers' videos was only up to S&B.

>>41831911
Scoots being a unhinged Rainbow Dash-obsessed psychopath early on was fucking hilarious and the fact she essentially became a non-character afterwards even with her new retarded alicorn powers was extremely lame. What's worse is that she probably wouldn't be as funny anymore since he decided to age the CMC up.
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Cute little colt.
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>>41834503
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>>41834503
>>41834506
Both of these are perfect
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>>41834082
I bet he seriously considered this but wanted the flight kiss at the end
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>>41834503
Alas AKU'S genes were too powerful!
Alas Sparkle's ladysperm was too potent.

Hehehehehehe oh how I wish the smart ones and beautiful ones had naturally dominant genes. :/
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>>41830207
What was the other one?
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>>41833336
The peter pan and the vacation episodes were kinda lame
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Every Manic focus episode suck ass
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>>41830207
those flashes of Cadence
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>>41834564
The Pizza Hut episode was fine, and him actually learning to Earthbend was actually satisfying after all of his failures in previous episodes.
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>>41834564
The wedding episode was kino. Especially the ending with Tamers making a cameo.
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>>41834316
He's not really lying. The persona we see in his videos is fake for entertainment sake. Even his accent isn't real and he broke character in some of his older videos by speaking in his real voice. Take what he says with a grain of salt and as jokes isn't of facts.
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>>41830004
She has the (second) most powerfull magic of all

retconjuration
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>>41834486
Oh fuck. If they're aged up, they'll get new voices. I hope he doesn't make Scoots lust after Dash. Shit I was kind of just unhappy he used the shitty adult haircut for Scootaloo. I didn't think about how this would affect the CMC personality wise.
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>>41832796
I think flawless shouldn't have come back honestly, she was best left as a one-off and doesn't really need a redemption arc.
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>>41835240
I feel the same way about Big Mac, Braeburn, and Soarin. Their arc was already done. Why put them in the Hearth's Warming episode?
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>>41835259
I guess they're sticking around since tamers probably wants to have a reoccurring gay male romance.
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>>41835238
They had very little personality honestly, so this is him actually writing them to do something with the only plot they have, he even seemed to drop the whole AB having cancer thing
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>>41835259
>Their arc was already done.
Part of it was done, Mainly the part that involves Breaburn. There is still the matter of the fact he is still an alicorn which celestia said was not something he could actually suppress and something that she can't fix meaning that the story that got completed was just about Braburn himself and maybe big mac who accepts he's a faggot. The hearth's warming episode was about what comes next for them.
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>>41833257
>DoTS
DoTS
>great
bowling, rainboom, unicorn con, SH
>good
birthday bash, Arson, bardonic, Trixie
>ok
sleepover, toola roola, hearts warming (when the fags arent on screen)
>meh
g5, hot pot
>S&B
s&b
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>>41835335
>he is still an alicorn
confirmed he no longer is one
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>>41831426
Tamers Cadence a cutie
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>>41835335
Hmm, I never thought of it that way. I guess maybe, for Tamers, Flawless' arc isn't done either, which is why he brought her back.
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>>41835323
AB and Sweetie were basically open books that tamers could do anything with, and Scootaloo already had a fun personality that other characters could play off of. There wasn't any need to age them up. It seems like he's only doing it to prepare for more romance which is honestly the last thing the series needs right now.
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>>41835384
Implicit rape between adults is one thing. Implicit rape between fillies is another.
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>>41833294
>>41833322
>>41833340

how the fuck Fluttershy's Hot Pot Party is better than Soarin & Braeburn?

did you forget that both episodes are about the faggot horses?
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>>41835359
He says he's not one and that he gave up the powers but Celestia herself both knows more than him and it's clear that he's lying after what is shown at the end of the episode
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>>41831566
she's chinese (no she's not)
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>>41835387
filly rape > adult horse rape
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>>41835384
He didn't seem to have any real care to write them to begin with, AB was basically left out of the retard alicorn dynamic and it largely goes nowhere unless the nightmare night episode was gonna to anything with it, which it didn't seem to really hint to or seem like it would have ended up being about given the title and what bit he did show of it. Scootaloo was very one note and technically the only one with an actual character out of the three and most of that personality was bitchier ranbow dash fan while sweetie was pretty much just existing to give rarity a pity dynamic during unicorn con and fawn over scootaloo.

Aging them up was likely the only way he'd ever care to turn them into focus characters since he could take them in a different direction instead of trying to write them as is, also possibly actually move their magic plot along.
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>>41835472
>how the fuck is the funnier episode with better pacing better than the 57 minute monologue slogfest
gee I don't fuckin know
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>>41835498
I feel like braeburn or mac would have seen or felt his forehead at some point, and mac for sure would have called him out
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>>41835816
The horn shrunk back, doesn't mean his powers are actually gone as was said. He can't be fixed and can't actually suppress being an alicorn because the spell was both never undone and at this point has been on for too long.
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>>41835792
Aging them up doesn't change anything though. My point is that he can already do anything he wants with the CMC because we have seen so little of them. What does them being older change about their characters? The only reason I can see to age them up is so that it's less awkward when they start getting into relationships.
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>>41835862
Aging them means they can go anywhere on their own rather than only being allowed to tag along if allowed, Sweetie's magic will be stronger and by extension so will Scootaloo, they will have to actually be treated like adults, and that AB may have been able to dodge death by cancer due to aging past it. Scootaloo can actually fly now that her wings have grown as well.

Many newer doors have come just off of actions alone but then comes the fact that every other character has to address the change as well
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>>41835862
they're not babies anymore, which opens a lot of story choices that would be really awkward to do with fuckin babies
I'd prefer if he'd just left them out altogether but he didn't so this is probably the best choice he's got for not writing himself into a corner or abandoning them
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>>41835804
I think S&B has the better jokes.
FHPP apart from Big Mac , Twilight and Trixie interactions, it's not that funny.
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>>41835878
None of those limits existed until now though. They were already going wherever they wanted without adults, AB's cancer was always a joke, but even if it wasn't aging past cancer doesn't make sense. And Scootaloo being able to fly would be stupid but it's the only change that would actually make a difference. They should act just like they did before aging because it's only their bodies that have changed, not their minds. Separating them from the other characters is also meaningless because they barely had any relationship with them before that. All of these possible story directions are just basic coming of age story tropes that could have easily been done while they were fillies. Especially for someone like tamers who regularly just does whatever the fuck he wants. He could easily make the fillies more independent without aging them up.
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>>41835976
Those limits were inherent, to the degree they don't actually appear because the show is mainly about the 6, mostly twilight, meaning they just can't go where she does more often than not because Tamers does write them as kids just like he does with Sonic and his sibs in SU. They are uninvolved with all events because they are kids and can't actually do much of anything or be anywhere past a certain point because they are basically never needed to do anything. It would be like questioning why those many kids were what pinkie used as weapons: Children aren't really all that useful for much compared to an adult by basic logic as below Sonic and friends in SU is actual children younger than themselves and they are treated like dirt for various reasons.

>Coming of age
Not really a thing unless they were the actaul main cast, given they are about Mindy to Mandy tier character, that was never gonna be a narrative piece as without the spell, they would never actually age in any compacity as time wouldn't pass enough for them to ever reach any new significant age ironically just as the real show had them.

You seem to think tamers actually does just always ignore ages but SU ironically has them as a recurring detail like the fact that Sonic & everyone that isn't an adult or Bartelby is canonically in school or the fact that they are treated like kids by anyone older than them, the only difference being that they(behind Bartelby) are the actual central cast of SU, independence would require the CMC to be lone characters or Orphans like Scootaloo which isn't the case.

>AB's cancer was a joke
Only as much as Cancer is a joke over in SU, it's a real thing that some characters have.

> Separating them from the other characters is also meaningless because they barely had any relationship with them before that
AB was the one person AJ confined in and AB actually gave her a real and good answer to her questions about life and straying from the way of the apples, Sweetie is one of the few ponies that actually like her sister and vice versa, and Scootaloo has her obsession's and purpose of living being for Rainbow. All 3 were going to reappear in the Halloween episode but with Rainbow Chaperoning them because they are kids and because Rainbow notes that Ponville would unironically be the place where they get blades and drugs in their candy.

Their age has always been apart of their writing to tamers, their relationships extend to their sisters(or figure of worship) as half of AB's dialogues are just to her family or AJ to begin with
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After thinking about it some more I think I figured out my biggest grip with the latest episode. It insists upon itself too much.
>Sunset Shimmer explicitly saying she was in the episode for fanservice(though it was funny in the moment)
>Rainbow and Twilight both getting anime aura power ups to perform a single ultra cool finisher attack.
>Pinkie and Sunset's sudden lust for human cock, thrown in for the bronies
>Having to constantly being told by Tamers himself that Shining Armor was an attractive anime protag
>Fanservice rape scene resulting in after-credits rape baby to keep viewers around for next time
>Cadance dressing like slut mid-movie with zero explanation as to why (Tamers probably went back on the idea of Trixie wearing her socks because he didn't want his 2 female leads dressed like Strippers)
It felt less like Tamers wrote it and more like somebody else trying to emulate Tamers, and then tamers did the drawings. The only part that genuienly felt like tamers was the Equestria girls gag and the Rarijack scene where they smashed a rock over that guys head.
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>>41835976
It takes out potential story lines like having the pink retard babysit or the cancelled halloween episode. By being the only fillies before the rape baby, they had a unique role that could have been used. Now I'm worried that they'll just end up being more relationship drama like literally every other character. My only hope is that Applebloom is immune to this since she has no pairing at the moment.
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>>41835950
>S&B has jokes
literally where
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>>41836103
>>Rainbow and Twilight both getting anime aura power ups to perform a single ultra cool finisher attack.
I'll speak on this one that Tamers does it more than you think, SU doesn't have a ton of actual fight scenes to begin with but in one of the last ones before the MLP S1 trek, Sonic takes the bus specifically, the entire fight has a the anime aura moments meeting at the final part of the battle where you have Sonic and Knuckles jumping into the sky to manage some ultimate combo move to kill the russian. The entire fight is pretty much the precursor to MLP being so battle heavy.

https://youtu.be/dOBRP0QGlkg?t=1622

With Rainbow Dash's big attack being pretty much just like Soarin's back when he fought twilight. Twilight was probably technically the only transformation based one but technically even that's less about the transformation more about the move itself.

>Cadence in socks
This was on pacing and whatever that 3 day gap was since Chrysallis also just isn't there around the point where we see Cadence again

>Having to constantly being told by Tamers himself that Shining Armor was an attractive anime protag
This was something insisted since Bowling(unicorn con if you wanna push it) and not much different from Bartelby glaze back in SU
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>>41836073
>Tamers does write them as kids just like he does with Sonic and his sibs in SU. They are uninvolved with all events because they are kids and can't actually do much of anything or be anywhere past a certain point because they are basically never needed to do anything.
I don't really know what you are talking about here. Sonic and his siblings are involved in almost every story. Sonic Knuckles and Manic are always doing crazy shit despite the fact they are kids. Bartleby may be more of a driving force but the kids have never been uninvolved with the narrative. The girls are the ones who are portrayed as useless because they are women. But even Mindy was able to battle with Athair.
>You seem to think tamers actually does just always ignore ages
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying them being kids is not nearly as limiting for the narrative as you think. I don't know how you can say that the CMC can't be important characters as kids while using the SU cast as an example, almost all of whom are kids.
>AB was the one person AJ confined in and AB actually gave her a real and good answer to her questions about life and straying from the way of the apples, Sweetie is one of the few ponies that actually like her sister and vice versa, and Scootaloo has her obsession's and purpose of living being for Rainbow
None of these scenarios have anything to do with them being kids, and none of them would change if they were adults. The Halloween episode focusing on them going trick or treating isn't any kind of limitation either. It an opportunity for a story that only makes sense because they are kids. The only limitations that come from them being kids are the ones tamers creates himself. Soarin was just a pegasus but no one complained when he got alicorn powers. What's stopping tamers from giving the CMC more relevancy as kids?
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>>41836137
>"There's nothing ponies love more than friendship than garage sales"
>Celestia masterfully haggling Twilight at said garage sale
>Twilight gaslighting literally everybody about everything that's ever happened
>Soarin swearing he's going to fuck Twilight's dad
>Soarin and Big Mac talking about eachothers penises for a full minute
>Fluttershy being the only one clapping during Soarin's extended torture
>Twilight leaving Fluttershy out of the magical barrier but letting in Spitfire
>Drunk Celestia visiting Twilight in her bed
>"Derpy isn't even retarded, we just think she is becuase her eyes are lock that"
>Celestia awkwardly clapping along at Twilight's speech made to dawg on her out of fear of a revolt.
>Pinkie farting Celestia into the sun
Actually one of the funniest videos if you put aside the drama
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>slaps Luna's ass and dresses her up in a maid costume
>throws up when Luna professes her love
What the fuck is her problem
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>>41836186
>Sonic and his siblings are involved in almost every story.
Because, as I already said: They are the main cast(behind Bartelby), most of the events out right start with them doing stuff mostly kids would do before spiraling off into whatever grand adventure they end up doing. Not to forget but they were also freedom fighters for the longest and independence came very early in the actual show since they up and dip from their homes to go find their mom. It's the inverse of MLP, where grown adults are the main cast as unlike MLP almost every adult has no focus with only a few episodes featuring them in length or in any major compacity.

> I'm saying them being kids is not nearly as limiting for the narrative as you think.
It is when they aren't the central cast and the only plot they were ever given was being used more for someone else as well as their version being more crippled because Scootaloo is a runt pegasi who can't fly making her even worse off as a retarded alicorn as the fix for them is also just putting the eyes back where they belong.

>None of these scenarios have anything to do with them being kids
All of them do, Halloween features them because only kids were really going to go trick or treating during that holiday and the entire reason that they were central characters for the episode.

>What's stopping tamers from giving the CMC more relevancy as kids?
They aren't critical to anything going on and the two that from a retard alicorn are too young and unspecial to be strong or in real view as an issue as even twi lays out: Scootaloo can't fly due to her wings and Sweetie is a filly with average to below magic as far as things are concerned. Their simple minds prevent either from doing that much or pushing their abilities. MLP is mostly about twi, and unlike a certain 2 mares, she's no pedo and doesn't hang around kids
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>>41830184
Luna is good and still went nightmare moon, twilight is good and still burned braeburns orchard farm, flawless is and good and still _____
You get the idea.
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>>41836245
Turning them into adults doesn't magically turn them into part of the main cast. Tamers could absolutely give them important parts in the story as fillies. Twilight literally lost to them in the same episode where she calls them useless. And as I said before there is nothing stopping tamers from just giving them more power like with Soarin. Why does Scootaloo have to be aged up to be able to fly instead of just gaining the ability to fly? The capabilities of tamers characters varies wildly between episodes, as I have already explained with both Twilight and Soarin. That's why it seems obvious to me that the ages were changed just so the future romance is less awkward.
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>Twilight, Trixie, and the stallion trio are going to continue going off on wacky adventures homo and lesbo adventures while Cadance, Shining, and Chrysalis have been sidelined for a Fairly Odd Parents Baby Poof storyline
TAMERS NOOOOOOO YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO NOT DO THIS, WHAT WAS THE POINT OF RETCONNING FLURRY HEART THEN
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>>41836348
I don't think tamers cares about how awkward a romantic pairing is when one of the main ships is gay incest. If anything he probably aged them up so he's not stuck using the little baby girl tts that pinkie also uses.
Also, did anybody bring up the fact that a mane6's fart altered their lives for a second time
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>>41836435
Farts change the world, everyone knows that.
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Wait a minute. Flawless did some time switcheroo shit in DOTS huh? Holy fuck my memory sucks so fucking bad
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>>41836435
pedophilia is worse than gay incest. especially for the twitter audience. most of the pony musicians that have been contributing to his videos would probably drop him if he went through with that. the shared voices are also a problem too though.
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>>41836525
Ironic considering pedophilia begets gay people
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It was obvious to you guys that Trixie is set up to be Twilight's sister, right?.
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>>41836542
That wouldn't make sense because they would have to be twins but they both have moms.
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>>41836542
Isn't it required that Trixie's sister is dead?
The whole reason twilight guessed there was a sister at all was because her death would explain trixie's mana-pool.

If twilight's her sister, there would be no other setup for that other than mirroring luna.
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>>41836348
>romance
You keep acting like age affects this when that’s never been the case in tamers as even sweetiebell or SU characters will show.

You seem to forget MLP is a story series and things can’t just suddenly happen as much as you think, tamers has honest to god been firing reasons and justification into nearly everything and refusing to drop it. Shit just happening and being so untethered to the main cast in any way is how we ended up with the current movies issues of pacing and too many plots going on.

I’d say more but I’m working for now
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>>41836578
they literally got aged up by a random bolt of magic that shot out from twilight's ass. he doesn't give a shit about justification.
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>>41836551
>>41836546
Two things seem apparent to me. First that mixing Trixie's mom with Twilights dad would explain her fur color, and second, since Twilight is exceptionally skilled at magic, Trixie theoretically could siphon some in the womb without killing her, which would explain why Trixie can just do the magic while Twilight has to study and practice it.
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>>41836588
You guys do get that this whole thing is a silly shitpost web video right
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>>41836613
Except Trixie's father is Jackpot you filthy tertiary.
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>>41836614
Tamers pretty clearly wants his new videos to be taken seriously.
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>>41836617
#notmycanon
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>>41836620
Anon Chrysalis drinks Shining Armor's piss.
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>>41836625
Me putting my balls into your ass until your insides are ruptured and you die of internal bleeding is considered rape?
#notmycanon
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>>41836632
I take that very seriously.
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>>41836637
Okay Chryssy, go sew a dick onto another doll
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>>41835238
Makes me more upset that the Nightmare Night episode got scrapped. It would have been fun seeing her use her powers to extort more candy from others in the most hilariously malicious ways possible or something.

Lots of weird missed opportunities from Tamers recently. Makes me think he's taking too much influence from his pony audience instead of just doing his own thing.
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>>41830102
>>41830105
>>41830110
is this the snowpity everypony talks about?
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>>41836665
>Makes me think he's taking too much influence from his pony audience instead of just doing his own thing.
He's one guy after all. Sonic Rainboom will always be the ideal non-plot heavy episode, before the fandom started love bombing him
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Tamers needs co-writers. If he assembles a team he could could easily get serialized on Adult Swim.
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>>41836691
oh my science, just what we need! more adult slop
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>>41836667
Yes. Stinky snowpitys.
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>>41836691
Isn't Adult Swim literally dying?
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>>41836691
Is there even anything good on AS anymore? I only know about Smiling Friends but I haven't watched it.
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>>41834316
>>References the shim sham nickname, something incredibly hard for any newfag to know abou
Huh?
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>>41836708
nta but idk about "hard to know of" but I'm pretty sure Shim Sham did in fact come from 4chan as it was also a relative of the "Can't film flam the zim zam" meme
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>>41836617
Do you think he's going to show up for the inevitable Twixie wedding episode?
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>>41836691
MLP without the tamers would just be regular MLP
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>>41836763
Considering he wasn't there for his daughter during her childhood, doubt he'd show up now.
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>>41836774
Think of the plot point where Celestia begrudgingly accepts Twilight dating a mare but Trixie having a deadbeat zigger-in-spirit father crosses the line for her.
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>>41836588
Anon you just proved my point about justification by any means, he could have easily off screened the entire age up but instead rounds it into a joke of twilight fucking up a spell she offered to do, a growth spell to fix cadence’s hair after cadence does the same for her. He gave a justification for why they’ll be older going forward and gave a reason to even why the spell made them grow. Every no move has to have a calculation and reason even if they aren’t good or directly important reasons.

Just like the book returning despite us originally thinking it was burned to ash or how we rainbow’s pedophike joked tied into one of the piss & sing duo being a pedophile which also looped back into Harthswarming eve. For as much as many things tie into bits or seem to just happen tamers has been putting extensive thought to details that would have just been something unimportant or a seen as a humorous error, even down to trixie’s magic.
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>>41836945
Imagine her farting in that chair
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>>41836613
Well first off, wouldn't be possible even for Tamers world as Twi's dad is not seen as appealing, second, Trixie's entire magical formula is about the fact she was to have a Twi who died and in death filtered and gave all her magic to her (big) sister leading to Trixie gaining dual magic.

Third, tamers proved he either read, saw or looked up Trixie's wiki/IDW comics cause her mom doesn't appear anywhere else and the same page also mentions her father who is, by word of the people that actually made him, very much a deadbeat who doesn't actually know Trixie is his kid and has never met her (they also said he was washed up so it might have been implied Trixie's mom, Spectacle/Showcase was either a groupie or a former assistant) which Tamers did make a joke about back in DoTS where he has Celestia call her a bastard child.

Beyond that stuff, it just wouldn't work based on colors, Trixie isn't white and Night light & his wife are only purple and grey, with Blue being a non option in the color equation given how weak NL's genes are and how ugly he is. Not to mention neither of them are balding from anything more than age unlike Trixie.

Simple fact is the idea only works if it was Velvet who was Trixie's mom as NO ONE would willingly fuck Night Light outside of her and Night Light is unironically never laying real pipe again as even his wife prefers Shining because he looks better and has a bigger dick
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>>41836763
Bigger question is would flawless try to stop the wedding because she doesn't want trixie to marry anyone as it means no more attention for her
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I'm wondering if Tamers will ever reference this relative
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Fags lost
Dykes won
Simple as
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>>41836999
>dykes won
>literal straight ship as the main plot
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>>41837003
>Straight ships
>Both are formed out of rape or ultimatums to end the world
>Mare on Mare action
>Tender, cute, accepted and the exception to a fag hating god, built on forgiveness, smells and having a kid born of love who learns love and is accepted by her mothers

NTA but I defiantly feel Twixie was just superior even when it was barely in the movie
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Trixie and Flawless both tripping whenever they run away if frickin' cute as heck.
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now that i think it over, i don't think i've ever seen tamers draw a cutie mark, it's odd considering that it's such an integral part of ponydom
has he ever given a reason for this? did anyone ever ask about it?
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>>41837025
He didn't know ponies have cutie marks because he doesn't watch MLP, since it's a show for girls.
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>>41837025
Just no real point since it's extra work on top of the rest and even G5 pretty much started the trend of half assing them by having them on just one cheek. It's an extra bit of work that at the end of the day doesn't really matter for anything in the long run as before stuff like the cutie map and even starlight, all they did was act as a flavor element but in most cases they were of course just random ass art for background characters that end up defining random names from fans. Plus, Changelings don't have em
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>>41837023
They both keep tripping over their massive marecocks.
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>>41837043
Well Flawless does have a bit of twilight in her, it's not as girthy as Trixie and that is why Flawless hates Twilight so much.
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>>41837025
I remember him saying that drawing every cutie mark for every character would be too big of a hassle so he just avoids them entirely. Which is weird because Soarin's cutie mark started flashing on screen as he was going full psycho in the S&B movie, so there could be more to them in Tamers' version of the characters.
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>>41837091
I mean they probably exist then and it's just like
Not relevant
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>>41834834
So she's a mary sue donut deviant art trash oc, got it. Making Starlight's power trips look like kids play, this is the true poochie
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>>41836922
This is complete bullshit. You said it yourself.
>Shit just happening and being so untethered to the main cast in any way is how we ended up with the current movies issues of pacing and too many plots going on.
There was no explanation for Soarin's book magically being totally fine just like there was no explanation for how Twilight suddenly had the perfect spell to defeat Flawless when she needed it. If you will accept these ridiculously contrived reasons for things happening then it should be even easier for you to accept the idea that the fillies had no need to be aged up. Watch this, I'm about to write a whole outline of how the fillies could stay relevant while staying kids.

>The school goes on a field trip to Celestia's castle.
>After Apple Bloom made a rude comment about Rainbow Dash, Scootaloo grabbed her to find a toilet where she could dunk AB's head into as punishment.
>Sweetie followed to try and stop them from fighting as usual.
>Unable to find a bathroom because they are retarded babies, Scoots picks the next best place. A quiet library.
>Little do they know this is actually the forbidden library but Celestia doesn't care enough to keep it locked up.
>While trying to bash AB's head in with a book, Scootaloo accidentally knocks over an entire bookshelf that falls on all three of them.
>These enchanted books open up and curse them with unique abilities.
>They now have to keep this a secret between each other and maybe their sisters and Dash because if Celestia finds out she'll fart them to death but it's hard because they can't control their power yet.

There, wow now the fillies have a story and it can even involve the adult ponies.
>Every no move has to have a calculation and reason even if they aren’t good
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but good stories need good reasons for happening. That's what a story is. If your story is just a bunch of bullshit leading up to one moment then it's a bad story. Because the journey is the experience. By your logic we can just erase all the episodes and just have one scene where Twilight goes "Wow I love Trixie, good thing there isn't a reason to remember how I came to love her. It was really stupid." I mean that's basically what she did with her new transformation. The difference between aging and growing alone should make you realize that it's total nonsense.
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>>41837171
>There was no explanation
Both of these are explained, for the first From the perspective we saw, Twilight's, Braeburn just throws it into the flams and then she attacks them pretty much mere moments after that ending in her getting her shit pushed in hard enough to end up in a full body cast and beyond that crippling herself bad enough to be dragged away after mind controlling Soarin. She honest to good never looked back and never went to see if she could find away of it still intact and just assumed it burned to ash, something that Soarin says didn't happen as he found it when they went back to the farm and he used his magic to regrow everything and from then on they kept it as a reminder. For the spell, twilight says it was a celestia teaching, that alone is all that really needed to be said to build it up as, ironically just as with the show, we have no clue what the fuck Celestia actually teaches her after a point and the show as well as Tamers rarely ever state what magic she does or doesn't know since most of the time they use guns or more basic or nameless magic. The movie has her name drop about 3 spells: immobilization, growth, and the unnamed spell for purifying darkness. She doesn't just pull it out of her ass, she tells you directly what it is and it's purpose and apparently needed Sunset to also do with her as far as things were concerned.

As contrived as they may seem, there is a build to them and point where there is a logical enough answer given on the why/how.

>School episode
If twilight or one of the 6 or stallions aren't part of it, it really just isn't gonna happen. I'm not kidding, literally every episode must feature either the M6 or G3(Gay 3), it's a key reason as to why there was no build up for SH: Tamers has never given those characters some episode of their own because it just didn't feature any of the 6, and even every part of they gay plot has some of the six in critical rolls.

>good stories need good reasons for happening.
I'm sorry to tell you but good reasons ARE given, from the explaination of Trixie's magic, to the very Sun spell, they are both given full explanations on what they are, why they are used or haven't been used and what they do. You keep calling the move a transformation but it's simply a side affect of the spell she used as it only stuck when used and left the moment it was done.

The very example you are using is quite literally based in all the same principals as Trixie and twi's entire relationship has many random events and the same set of made up events all tie to a childhood that only suddenly exists, even down to her nightmare night Luna costume being another random addition that still explains why Luna likes her. Tamers isn't writing a good story, he writes HIS story, a fun story. Looking too deep ruins the simplicity of it as he has said before: DoTS is literally just his excuse for Twi and Trix to kiss at the end of the day.
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>>41836767
Tamers would still be on the team, he just needs to collab with others. As these threads keep noting, he's really not good at writing drama.
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Will we see Aryanne in the Tamers mlp universe?
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>>41837248
If you add other writers you ruin the charm of Tamers, what he writes is fine 80% of the time. But at times like this it was clear time was the issue or the bigger issue that the plot done just didn't feel like it had any of the build the others did meaning the investment isn't really there. By the end of the film, unlike the rest, they key players of Chryss, Cadence, and Shining have no real change in dynamic either unlike the other films: Chryss is still free to roam and still trying to hit on Shining armor as shown by the credits and all she got was at most what looks to be told to go away or a disgruntled look from Shining himself, something he was already doing most of the time they talked. meanwhile Everyone else actually gets a signifgant life or direction change: Twi and Trixie move in, Flawless and Trixie meet on equal grounds(?), AJ and Rarity are together and AJ is free from the apple way, the CMC are now bigger, Sunny and Izzy are bonding and skating together, Zipp and Hitch may start dating or she's dropping hints, Pinkie and Dash are about to try to actually learn and pursue the careers they abandoned, and Sunset gets scitwi back(she made it out of the coma and to pony world). The only signifcant change from the movie is that Luna spoke her feelings and Chryss now has a rape kid she either doesn't recall popping out or lost in the midst of combat since she's by the destroyed hive for the ED. For the focus characters of the film they went right back to where they were before it happened while everyone else moved at minimum a full inch or mile.

The issue was these characters really didn't have enough ground for their own film and, if the issue really wasn't a matter of time itself or possible burn out to backlog, Tamers may have known this when what he had didn't end up being an hour like the rest so he shoved in several other plotlines to meet up with the last Big ED and many plots he teased for it.

This film is the only crowded one to date and the only short one by Tamers MLP standards.
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>>41837235
I don't know how to properly explain this, but you worship tamers to an unhealthy degree. You will defend anything he does because you are genuinely convinced that he can't make mistakes. And you convince yourself that any possible flaw that anyone else sees is just an error on their part and that they just don't understand something that isn't even there. I have really enjoyed almost all of tamers' content including the last movie. But I can't keep this discussion going with someone who refuses to even entertain the idea that they might be wrong.
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>>41837276
Anon, this isn't worship, it's looking at what he writes and actually understanding his style especially in what he's been open about is his first real venture into this type of story and writing. It's also a matter of being actually objective rather than trying to force in a personal bias because I didn't like a decision made. The film has flaws a plenty, but the CMC and the age change isn't one as before now they were actually doing virtually nothing to begin with, claiming that he has made a mistake because of possibility and then trying to mentally force in that possibility despite knowing that more what you want rather than anything he possibly wants is a key factor of actually understanding what makes him who he is and what makes his content so special.

You need to learn to just admit YOU would have taken it some other direction rather than saying he should have done things you say because the entire point is HE DIDN'T WANT TO. It's ironic that your say "someone who refuses to even entertain the idea that they might be wrong." when you can't admit that very thing and just say he's wrong to have aged them up and then try to force some idea that it was for romance of all things.
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>>41837290
Anon, I really don't want to be mean. So I'm just going to let you know that I'm not going to reply to your posts anymore.
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>>41837301
Anon, you need to learn when to admit some things about yourself rather than suddenly believing you know best or that suddenly your idea is the way it could have or should have been.
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>>41837256
This cringe oc has no chance, are you retarded?
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>>41837256
I'd wager unlikely solely since he hasn't seemingly done any known OCs yet and doesn't seem to typically go that far into interaction even for SU, he does collab for music now though so who knows
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>>41837256
The amount of salt it would cause from Tamers "fans" on Twitter would be hilarious, the fucking speed they'd turn on him, like they always do.
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When are they just gonna adopt Pinkie already? She's already in the will.
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>>41836999
If anything I'd argue fags and dykes won since they all god their happy endings, while the one straight couple are now forever fucked and hindered by a rape baby
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>>41837609
Rape baby doesn't change all that much at the end of the day, Chrysalis kept saying she would and eventually delivered, Shining goes right back to cadence after and then has sex with her later. He didn't cheat and wasn't willingly unfaithful and it's currently in the air weather or not Chrysalis even knows she popped out that black gumball. Honestly, the part that's bad is they went nowhere by the end of it due to how it happens and we are right back where we started.
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>>41837631
That's kinda what I mean, I don't necessarily mean hindered by the actual baby but hindered by it's addition to the story. any stories about them will either be

A: About the baby while they as characters take a backseat (like Flurry's addition in the actual show)
or
B: Tamers will ignore the babies existence and the viewers will constantly be waiting when the baby plot will come in.

It's like real life parents. Their story and interest as characters are effectively over. I half expect Tamers to reveal in the next episode that Chrysalis just put a wig on a random baby she kidnapped to try and get Shining to pay child support cause honestly it's the only way to salvage it
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>>41836999
>>41837003
>>41837609
Shipfags in general won. Straight, lesbian, gay, even incest. There's something for everyone!
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Have there been any greens or fics set in the Tamers version of Equestria? Or at least any that feature Flawless?
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>>41837768
It's not that much different than now or previous as technically before the movie weather or not those three actually had a grand plot was in question as the detail often felt as relevant as the SB and Scootaloo eye swap which in the end still hasn't amounted to much all this time later with only 1 episode actually addressing what the swap even did for them. They were kinda already in the back seat as they basically never appeared outside of being last min cameos or side plot material like in bowling. It's more like they just have an extra sitting with them and said extra doesn't even have to get a real ai voice since it's a baby. Their story before the movie was Chrysalis is still hitting on shining armor and hates Cadence, their story is now Chrysalis is still hitting on Shining armor and hates Cadence. The baby is quite frankly the only chance to see anything come of them because they weren't doing all that much after unicorn con which didn't really last as a Shining armor plot as by the time he returns he breaks up with Blueblood. Unless he was supposed to come back it's not like the baby did anything to what little story they already had.
>>41837777
Nice quads
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>>41837817
Not yet but the first can hopefully be about >>41837055
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Listen here you dense motherfuckers

The dumb baby is just the latest iteration of a theme which has been echoed in every other plotline. She's the big mac cape, she's flawless, she's two homos still persisting in a world that can't stand to look upon their uglyness.

This is a story about romance which deals in the suppression of true feeling as an insufficient and unsatisfying way to cover weakness. It covers homos perpetually in a way that lets it talk about sex as a goofy and silly construct of pure desire with no external mechanics in order to simplify the issue for the convenience of the discussion. Flawless was born from such a union, but was legitimately a contrived abomination outside of the concerns of the character's shared narrative. Mac-cape, with his association with soarin's mental damage and the imposable dark magic book, is a clear representation of unformed and undefined dark questions about the nature of their relationships and lives.

If you fuck in a non-existent relationship in real life, you're statistically straight, and you might have just made a baby. It's real, and the mental ramifications the show has been discussing take a back seat to the sudden economic and domestic concerns.

Oh so great and terrible, it is, so unthinkable, so destructive and arbitrary.
And then, life moves on, in spite of your melodrama and legitimate suffering. That which is abhorred, continues.

The icky homos moved past the actual end of the world
The group decision to agree that flawless died was overturned, because she is inevitable now that she's been given this meaning
Soarin isn't all better yet, actually
and that baby will cling to life.
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>>41837256
>>41837402


How could it be worse than his typical racist and homophobic humor?

I don't remember tamers ever mentioning nazi shit in his videos anyways
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>>41837777
checked and true
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>>41837777
Except foals. u.u
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>>41838113
>I don't remember tamers ever mentioning nazi shit in his videos anyways
https://youtu.be/q1y2_mvjPE8?si=abBs7ha46OkrgkS9&t=1818
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>>41838210
unf
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Anyone know the name of end credits song though? I don't think this song was officially released by the record label as all my efforts in finding it have been in vain.
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>>41838308
x.com/TheTamers12345/status/1877923268759372278
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>>41838347
Thank you anon!
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i just didnt like it desu.
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>>41838665
giwtwm
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He wouldn't add yet another gay stallion into the mix....would he?
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>>41839156
you already know the answer
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>>41839156
His goal is for every character to be a faggot, what do you think?
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>>41839156
Well if he doesn't Braeburn has no character and Big Mac and Soarin can't end up together.

If we're being real though, the likely answer is gonna be that he's been cheating, has another gay cousin who then starts getting fucked by big mac making him jealous, or he's gonna be the guy to try and drag the family back in and ruin their lives now that Granny smith is dead since the story kept saying that if the rest of the family were here they would kill them for going against the apple way
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>>41839156
>Braeburn cheating on Soarin while he's going through his schizo arc
I pray to god that schmaltzy happy ending from S&B gets ruined.
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I hope Tamers bring the rest of superior unicorn M6?
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>>41839453
good story
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/478439/another-side-of-friendship
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>>41839200
Except Shining Armor?
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>>41839466
did you forget about blueblood
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>>41839453
Fuck no, that shit is unneeded, we have our central 4 and that is the end of who is needed: Twi, Trix, Sun, Rare and Flaw. Anything more as central members is pushing it
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>>41839156
>Tamers finding the most random background pony that most forgot about and single handedly turning them into one of the most popular ponies in recent years
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>>41839471
its not gay they're cousins that's different
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>>41839471
Shining wasn't gay, money was money and he laid out that his choice was predicated on the fact that Cadence is actually very poor despite being a princess
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>>41839471
Already forgotten about. He is now canonically a straight femboy who got TWO girls pregnant
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>>41839512
It's going to be so bad for that Shining Armor when he hits Soarin's age, remember he's a fucking queer and also have a mental breakdown after realizes what the fuck he's done to his life. Except he's going to lose it even more since has a kid (maybe gonna be 2)
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>>41839550
>and also have a mental breakdown
ESL opinion discarded, lurk moar until your English is better Pablo
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I can't believe the gay community is now attacking Shining Armor because they're upset he's super-straight.
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>>41839555
how long until Pinkie insists to rainbow dash that shining be the surrogate for their foal
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>>41839550
>what the fuck he's done to his life
Married a princess and had an all powerful god child?
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>>41839555
reminder that gays unironically thought the end of s&b was a genuinely happy ending whereas everyone else knew better than to believe braeburn
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>>41839550
>have a mental breakdown after realizes what the fuck he's done to his life
https://youtu.be/CM8ACyBj43E?t=1332
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>>41839598
It is a happy ending. So far things are challenging between them but ultimately productive, they both want to make it work and are trying to figure out how to do even with the challenges that come with it.
It's an unearned happy ending, but it is still a happy ending. Thankfully Tamers is going to come up with something to end it based on the hallucination.
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>>41839601
>defending his mom
That's cute
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>>41839606
it's not a happy ending
they literally cannot be genuinely happy with each other
there's nothing but trauma there
they need to go their separate ways
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>>41839555
I just think it's funny that Blueblood won and Shining is stuck in the woes of marriage and child rearing.
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>>41839619
>marriage and family is soooooo terrible
Boomers leave
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>>41839617
>there's nothing but trauma there
Not really though, they're a bit of a vapid couple but that's because Braeburn is a 30iq bimbo bitch. Based on the Christmas special they've moved beyond the 'just trying to relive doing shit with Big Mac' stage that Braeburn was at during their previous relationship but it's still a bit awkward.
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>>41839619
Damn nigger how can you mess the meme that up?
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>>41839635
He's gay AND retarded.
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>>41839608
>I think she looks rather nice, like a Twilight that doesn't listen to Evanescence
the voice of the fandom
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>>41839663
She's literally just a palette swap of her daughter. She doesn't even have wrinkles

Twilights don't sunset, evidently.
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>>41837023
>How hecking wholesome my hero traced an animation for nostalgia bait
Fuck off.
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>>41839667
woah it only took you 8 months to post a trace proof, good job anon
>5:14 AM
up early again
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>>41839550
The parallels to Soarin are actually striking
>got it all
>commander of the royal guard/captain of the wonderbolts
>Shining correcting his did with "Um, it's a kingdom?" Soarin correcting Big Mac with "Um, it's a 2 million a month penthouse?" to casually brag about how good they've got it
>both secretly "fucking queers"
>both white, shining with his piercing eyes and hair that flows like a waterfall, Soarin being the literal silver fox of the wonderbolts
Soarin's entire story was about hiding that he was gay for so long, and we now know Shining who is in his 30s is stuck under the same boat. Soarin is Shining Armor's future but with a child from outside his marriage so it will be even harder to break him out of his closeted lifestyle. You'd have to be retarded to think Tamers didn't do all of this intentionally, when every single tory he's ever done till now have been about different faggots coming to terms with being gay, for various reasons at different stages in their lives (Twilight, Big mac, Soarin, even Trevor, Sleet, and Cyrus if we look back at sonic underground)
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>>41839685
>every single story
>lists 6 in 14 years
ok buddy
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>>41839667
>dude it's traced because limbs are on the ground and they're running away
Like, no shit she's doing the running away thing and tripping that Trixie did, but it's not traced
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>>41839700
who even cares if it is, its a direct reference to a specific scene, its supposed to look exactly like that scene lol
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>>41839700
It's traced. Cope about how you've been a shit eater.
>It's a le reference, so it's okay!
The shiteating continues
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>>41839685
Is there a single character in TamersMLP outside of Cadance and Chrysalis who has shown sexual attraction to only the opposite gender? I think every single other one is a faggot. He just likes writing fags in this series, it's his shtick.
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>Shining Armor himself: I'm a fucking queer
>Sunset shimmer: He's a straight femboy
Reminder Shining Armor said himself in a moment of stress and revelations that he's gay. Reminder that in the bowling video he admits that he's "trying to make it work" with cadance, so he's still gay.
>"But he had sex with Chrysalis"
He was possessed
>"But he had sex with Cadance"
He's a gay man trying to make it work and having a baby forces him to be stuck within the heteronormative lifestyle. He's literally Stolas from Helluva Boss in that way(which we know Tamers is a fan of based off of Soarin's facial expressions in S&B
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>>41839706
Are you genuinely retarded?
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>>41839711
Tamers plans his stories in advanced and it doesn't look good for Shining because we know who he really is (an angry, mysogonistic, money hungry queer). Just like how S&B ended with a happy ending between them, it immediately led to an evil hood comign to life, and Soarin on the verge of cheating on Braeburn with Big Mac
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>>41839715
What's this supposed to show, tammertroon?
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>>41839724
Do you notice how they're not actually overlapping like they would if they were traced
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>>41839730
Coping. Got it.
I'm sure its a cohencidence
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>>41839721
It's okay to admit that Shattered Harmony is better than S&B. There's no point in trying to frame a narrative that says Shining Armor is Soarin, but worse, and also Shining Armor is actually really gay even though he impregnated two mares in the same episode. When we shitpost about how "faggots lost", it's just that, a shitpost. You don't need to make the gay stallions such a core part of your identity you feel the need to manufacture lies.
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>>41839730
Here you go, you fucking retard. Is this any clearer for you?
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>>41839744
Not the same anon but genuinely curious, if the plotline does develop into Shining being too much of a fag to stick with Cadance will you be upset about it or would you be fine with it? Because I'm fine either way personally, as long as it comes out with a good (ideally very stupid and funny) story.
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>>41839749
Notice how the hat, cape, legs and tail are still not perfectly aligned?
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>>41839752
Forgive me for answering a question with a question, but if the plotline develops that Braeburn is toxicity incarnate and he's the source of all of Soarin's problems so every happy ending the two of them have had was a great big lie, will you be upset about it or would you be fine with it?
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>>41839755
>He doesnt trace!
>Ok he traces but it's not everything so it's okay
Nothing but cope from the tranners shills. I recognized the frames he traced over because I watched the show. He doesn't even come up with the cape flow and traces it too, godamn I hate you offboard niggers.
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>>41839758
If it's done in a way that's funny or otherwise engaging then yeah absolutely.
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>>41839744
>Shining Armor is actually really gay
Yes
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>>41839760
>He doesn't trace!
Yep, glad we can finally agree!
I'm really glad you dropped your retarded argument, it'd be like saying someone drawing a pony walking is tracing because ponies walk in the cartoon.
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>>41839555
He's bisexual/bicurious at best, that or he was willing with taking cock up the ass for good money.
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>>41839760
I think the thing you're confused about is that the word trace doesn't mean what you think it means. It's clearly directly referencing that specific run cycle but he's not tracing it. The fall pose has the same overall shape too but the cape does something entirely different.
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>>41839744
I just think Tamers has a fetish for gay men who have to live a struggling lifestyle in a heteronormative world.
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>>41839776
>Newshits from offboard don't know what greentext is.
Here's the reality. He traces with halfassed effort for his standard slop when he's drawing something like a fucking bowling pin and over circles like in the OP >>41830004 and when he wants to trick the paymetun suckers like you his traces are more accurate. He really did get strike gold with an audience of shiteaters, starved for content that they would ignore he's a hack.
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>>41839787
To be fair a fag relationship where they're entirely comfortable is boring as hell.
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Getting made at Tamers for tracing is like getting mad at tamer for using tts and not using real voices. He's got the tools and if it speed up his workflow then good for him. He's got a 2 week deadline after all
>>41839744
This reminds me of last months talk where people tried to say Chrysi wasn't gay after she said she wanted Cadance to sit on her face. You're taking this way to seriously for world that's designed so every single character is secretly gay(explicitely gay to us viewers) and homophobic
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>dude I can't believe how shit anime artists are, they obviously traced the suit of armor on the right
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>>41839156
The more the merrier!
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>>41839814
>He doesn't trace hes a weeel artist you should support
>Tracing isn't bad it's just a tool and I'm proud of him
Goalpost moved so far it's in the next stadium.
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>>41839824
If tamers doesn't trace, cool. If tamers traces I don't give a fuck
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Houston, we need more Tamers threads
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>>41839854
You still need to learn what greentext is, newfaggot.
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Reduce. Reuse. Recycle
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>>41839802
no it isn't
people just don't know how to write them
it's not even that hard, you can just make it haha funny faggots and it'll be funny (read: not boring)



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