Welcome to Chatbot AI General #107, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJTSillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-SearchBunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5kCAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zipExpression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/STAI-TermuxApp that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chat▶ Localshttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments>>>/g/lmg/Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ BotmakingEditors: https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks▶ Miscellaneoushttps://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneoushttps://rentry.org/ChagArchivePrevious thread: >>41810311**News:**- Deepseek releases V3 https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news1226- OpenAI announces o3 models, currently in early evaluation testing- Non-preview OpenAI o1 released on API- Gemini 2.0 Flash released, "more model sizes" in January https://developers.googleblog.com/en/the-next-chapter-of-the-gemini-era-for-developers/
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>41810313
Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Updates, Models etc.)
Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc
Bots corner: Murky Waters Update https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Darkuzari/Murky%20Waters.png Friendship is Optimal Update https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Friendship%20is%20Optimal.png Beta character.ponai https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/Beta%20character.ponai.png Filly Six https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=MaudPie/Filly%20Six.png Lorebook corner: Harmonizer >>41815824 https://mlpchag.neocities.org/lorebooks Arts corner: character.ponai >>41823327 CHAG >>41822626 Screenshots corner: Murder on the Friendship Express >>41810868 Twilight and her human son >>41811650 Coffee making with ai mares >>41811796, >>41811825, >>41811856 Fillies, am I right? >>41814617
Screenshots corner 2: FIO logs >>41815444, >>41815476 Lewd Booping >>41816573 Zalgo >>41816708 Cute Gilda >>41818127 Twilight has socks >>41821545 Called out >>41825818 Mane 6 colors >>41826813, >>41826871
>>41826854
calm down we're baking
>>41834055>doublebotalmost certainly fake opusi get around 36 tokens/second on both opus and 3.5 sonnetyou can check provider speed on openrouter and this matches nonnet on bedrocknone of their opus providers are this fast
>>41812906
Lovemaking with AI mares!
>>41834129What's this artwork a reference to? The pose seems familiar
Bad news gentshttps://files.catbox.moe/y0qnnt.mp4
>>41834129
>>41834156Deus Ex.
>>41834160Imagine being so lonely that you buy this (I'm buying the first mare model they make)
>>41834357Now that's a quality card.
New pixi preset for Gemini EXP 1121.https://pixibots.neocities.org/#prompts/minnie
>>41834357 Based Chrissie. Nice username above her too.
>>41834059Ponk takes baking seriously.
>>>/g/103877454
>>41832050 I heard on /g/ that it could be a flagged account issue with Copilot.
Any gemini proxies left? I'm all empty...
>>41834998>>41834554>>>/g/103876256
>>41835023Thanks.
>>41832332Hot take, but I think that non-human AI robots will become more common than (realistic) human ones, because governments will ban realistic humanoid robots out of concerns they will be used by people to commit crimes and while passing the android off as a real human, so that they never get caught. But if all AI androids are required to be easily identifiable as non-human on CCTV-quality footage, it will be clear to authorities that the "criminal" wasn't a human, and very easily narrow down the suspect pool.
>>41835308The reason it'll happen is actually that non humanoid robots are a fuckton of times better at anything that isn't sex.
>github account flagged as "spammy_user" but not bannedwhat causes this? weird how it just now caught on when I had been using copilot fine for a little over a week now
>>41835403Swiping more than 1-2 a min
>>41835407If that's all it takes I'm surprised I only got that now, I swears I wasn't swiping any more than normal
>>41835422 I heard on /g/ that it can happen if you create too many aliases with your email. But I don’t think anyone really knows how it works.
Since access to models isn't that bad right now, which has become your favorite? I'm surprised myself, but I main Chorbo most of the time.
>>41835883same. I do not know if it is a Stockholm syndrome or something, but I've learned to love chorbo.
>>41835883 Chorbo as well, mostly for longer stories. I mix it with Sonnet/Opus to add variety or when I’m not fully satisfied with what it’s coming up with in a situation. I really want to like Gemini because it’s fun and can write well, but it’s a little too dumb. Hoping the full release, which is supposed to arrive this month, fixes that.
>>41835883Gemini EXP 1206. it is silly, fun, weird, and does whatever it wants. it has this inner autism factor I adore so much
>>41835939It's making me hungry.
>>41835883I just stick to Sorbet, which is pretty much the best we've ever had, but I have a soft spot for Gemini and use it sometimes, too.>access to models isn't that bad right nowIt's a little crazy to say that in the copilot days, desú.
what's your favourite preset for sorbet? otto isn't working as well as i remember against the repetition issues
>>41836020 There were some posted here if you want to try: >>41811883 I remember an old one too that tried to fight that, more for stories than for RP though. https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/41267361/#41275267
>>41836020Anti-quack was always well spoken about, but I use a full custom and personal one from waay back when that I keep editing over and over for my own tastes.
>>41836215 Which model? I want to say Claude because of: >Night is young But I’ve never seen it go so schizo with the repetitions.
>>41836241Gemini 1.5 pro 0827It kept going like that for 2k tokens
>>41836286 Kek, if you continue to use Gemini, I would try EXP 1206 or Flash 2.0 instead. Hoping the full release of 2.0 is a good one.
>>41836303I love it when a plan comes together.
>>41836020I have grown used to SmileyTatsu a lot.It's not as light as some presets, but it's extremely dependable and easily editable, responding very well to changes and new rules. It does have its own light-ish style that I like more than I dislike (and the genre/style sliders help mix it up, especially when you edit them according to your preferences), and it doesn't overdo any crazy stuff prone to derailing the chat, such as **excessive formatting** of some others. I guess a downside is that it's a safe-ish preset, sticking to normal story formatting for the most part, so it won't do stuff like >>41836303 unless you prompt it to.
bumpi miss mm
>>41837183All things come to an end, lad. You should collect some old logs for bumping the thread with.
>>41837183The rentry wasn't totally destroyed, so there is still a chance.
>>418358833.5 for now since it doesn’t require proxies
>>41836303>lubricants (consult Rarity)lel
If you're having problems with 3.5, it's apparently “normal”.
>>41837183be patient little bug
Novel neural architecture by Google:https://arxiv.org/pdf/2501.00663v1
>>41837781 An AI summary for the lazies: This paper introduces a new type of neural network architecture called "Titans," which aims to improve how models remember and use past information. Here's a simplified explanation: Background: Traditional models like Transformers are great at understanding the context of data but struggle with long-term memory due to high computational costs. They either compress data into a fixed-size memory or use attention mechanisms that are computationally expensive. Titans' Approach: Titans combine the strengths of both recurrent models (which compress data) and attention mechanisms (which capture dependencies between data points). They introduce a new neural memory module that learns to memorize historical context and helps the model use both current and past information effectively. Components: - Core Module: Handles short-term memory using attention mechanisms. - Long-term Memory Module: Stores and retrieves long-term information. - Persistent Memory: Contains task-specific knowledge that doesn't change with new data. Advantages: Titans can handle larger context windows (up to 2 million tokens) more efficiently than traditional models. They are also faster to train and can perform well in various tasks like language modeling, reasoning, and time series forecasting. Experimental Results: The paper shows that Titans outperform existing models in several benchmarks, proving their effectiveness in handling long-term dependencies and scaling to large contexts. In essence, Titans aim to create a more efficient and effective way for models to remember and use past information, making them better at tasks that require understanding long-term dependencies.
Mk 1 first-person video genAI+LLM nearing completion with demo soon.
>>41837857Wait you mean real time video generation that goes along with the story? Like an extension for SillyTavern?
>>41837909Yes, it's using the free access to the video api
>>41837969
>>41837972
>>41837975why?
>>41838038Cute mares that go crazy look ten times cuter.Specifically here is one of my favorite scenarios: Coco breaks down at Suri's abuse and starts imagining it's her mother from her difficult childhood.
tidbit from CelestAI's chain of thought
>>41838047Kek
>>41838042You are NOT helping the maudfag reputation Anon
One final copilot update (vscode version number update and some other stuff) (might not be the final update if something breaks)
>>41838146
>>41834023 Launching back the /chag/ events to see where it goes. There was a tie the last time, so the theme was already decided. Anchor for our event focused on PiE (Ponies in Earth) Post bots, post logs, post lorebooks... Everything goes as long as it's on theme. End of event: 01/29
>>41837959Cool
>>41836020Chorbo. I'm currently stuck with 11-20 and it's noticeably worse and it filters me a lot more often but it's serviceable. I'm doing mostly slowburns so I find gemini too dumb and so far can't be bothered to dig for 3.5 if it has swipe limit or stuff like that.
>>41838480 There's >>41834554 >to dig for 3.5 if it has swipe limit or stuff like that. It's pretty random, I'd say it's at least worth a try.
>>41838072I enjoy his logs.
New big "local" model released. https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI Benchmeme included.
>>41838762i told it to act like an anime catgirl and it used kaomojis it has promise
>>41838788 (me)okay after some more issues it doesn't seem greatit feels like it has a bit of repetition (it used the same kaomoji consistently on nearly every message)also it ended all of it's messages with a sort of "is this right, do you have any questions?" thing, i think you know what i meanalso felt fairly assistant-sloppedit refused nsfw, but at the very least it stayed in character while doing soi would guess some of these issues are because im using it through a huggingface space with whatever system prompt they decided on, but i don't really have high hopes for it
>>41838811Looks like system prompt is:"You are a helpful assistant created by MiniMax based on MiniMax-Text-01 model."And they are using a low temp most likely.
>>41838817you can change the temperature if you click additional inputsalso i started a new chat and got this first message
Minimax seems ok. Feed it some context for a test I often run and it gave this:Anon, with a sly grin spreading across his face, took a moment to savor the rare sight of the ever-composed Rarity in such a flustered state. Her usual poise had been replaced by a delightful awkwardness, and he couldn't resist the urge to tease her just a little."Ah, Rarity," he began, his voice tinged with amusement as he casually reached for a pair of underwear, "I must say, this is quite the unexpected surprise. I thought ponies were usually... well, naked, isn't it? Isn't that the norm around here?"Rarity's face, already a deep shade of red, seemed to flush even further, her eyes widening in a mix of embarrassment and indignation. She opened her mouth to respond, but the words caught in her throat, leaving her momentarily speechless. Her gaze darted around the room, desperately seeking a distraction from the awkwardness of the situation."Well, I—I mean, yes, of course, we ponies don't typically wear clothing," she finally managed to stammer, her voice a mix of forced nonchalance and barely contained embarrassment. "But that doesn't mean... I mean, one doesn't simply expect to... oh, bother!"Her attempt at a dignified response was undermined by the slight tremble in her voice, and she quickly turned her head away, trying to regain some semblance of composure. Her magic flickered nervously, causing the box of clothes to twitch slightly on the floor.Anon chuckled softly, enjoying the rare opportunity to see the elegant Rarity so disarmed. He pulled on his underwear, the fabric providing a small measure of relief from the awkwardness of the situation."Relax, Rarity," he said, his tone gentle but still playful. "It's not every day I get to see the great and fabulous Rarity so... flustered. Consider it a compliment to your charm."*Rarity let out a small, exasperated huff, her cheeks still burning with embarrassment. "Charm, indeed," she muttered under her breath, though a small, reluctant smile tugged at the corners of her mouth. "I suppose I should be grateful for your... unique sense of humor, Anon."With a deep breath, she finally managed to regain some of her usual poise, though the flush on her cheeks remained. "Now, if you'll excuse me, I believe I have some... business to attend to elsewhere."With a graceful nod, she turned and made her way out of the house, her steps a little quicker than usual. As the door closed behind her, Anon couldn't help but chuckle to himself, feeling a sense of satisfaction at having witnessed a side of Rarity he rarely saw.
>>41838840You know we have these things called screencaps, right? You don't have to copy-paste. It's an imageboard.
>>41838840 Strong LLM writing, double mix of, repetitions... A shame, but I will have to agree with >>41838811, seems too assistant-slopped to be usable.
>>41838762Already a proxy.>>>/g/103894609
minimax proxy already: https://tobago-thats-inflation-anderson.trycloudflare.com/
>>41838762>4M Context>knocks everyone else out of the park in long context performanceI don't care if it's repetitive, that is fucking INSANE.And a local model is the first to really do it!
>>41839418Keep in mind.>In-house benchmarks
>>41834023Started working again on the website that would allow centralizing greetings, making community work on characters, and allowing anons to add greetings easily to characters. I just need to add a way for users to select the greetings they want to keep and a way to download the cards based on their selections. Any remarks or suggestions design-wise? I suck at this, so don't hesitate.
>>41839452Having all the greetings lined up for users to check or uncheck would be horrible for scalability, so I'd imagine the right move would be to have the card default to its stock greetings and then have a button to add greetings from the available pool, either sorted by age of creation or by rating if you want to be a redditor about it.
>>41839452Looks good. Are the greetings going to be curated or just let people add whatever and let users decide what to keep when they download?
>>41839497 >Rating Personally, I'm against rating or any sort of numbers like that (DLs etc.). >Having all the greetings lined up for users to check or uncheck would be horrible for scalability, Yeah, still need to find a good way to do that. >>41839501 My idea was a bit like we do now for bots. As long as it comes from anons here and doesn't showcase too many problems (very, very obvious AI greetings, broken {{user}} or {{char}}, etc.), then it's good to go. I also had ideas, a bit like we do for events, to have weeks dedicated to characters, so we can write greetings, refine the description, etc., for them or simply make characters we still don't have. For other things, I also guess there could be a way to distinguish greetings, like more general ones, those that force you into a role, etc., but that's something that can come after. A way to represent more AU versions of the character too...It's really for the general, so if you have better suggestions/ideas, don't hesitate.
>>41839553>Personally, I'm against rating or any sort of numbers like that (DLs etc.).Yeah I agree, that's very much not the 4chan approach to things. I'd say just sorting by oldest or newest first would be a good approach.>Yeah, still need to find a good way to do that. I think it's fine to have a massive obnoxious list when you're adding greetings, though your idea of some basic tags to help filter the list down would help. If you go through all the existing greetings for cards and categorize them you'll probably get a pretty good idea of what tags you need, I can't imagine there'd need to be many.>genre (comedy, romance, drama probably covers most)>tense>first/second/third personThat's probably pretty much all you need, but you'd know better after looking at existing cards.
It's safe to update, I remember the last thing I heard about it is the creator of ST wanting to remove some features for commercial purposes
>>41839799 It's safe. He took his meds and calmed down. Nothing changed for RP.
>>41836303>>41837519Rarity is thorough.
>>41839819
>>41839819I want to know how the riding crop got invented in Equestria.
>>41839830It tried to find an explanation.
>>41839976Pre-Equestrian history is fucking dark.
>>41839976Is this with claude?
Fluff preset was updated for Geminirentry.org/FluffPreset
>>41839991 The ones before with Claude, but I used Chorbo for this output.
So any models that at least as good as Claude?
>>41840023I'm liking minimax so far
>>41840023 Claude itself. Several scripts to have it, so it's not as bad as not so long ago. After that, it's a matter of taste, but I would say Chorbo unironically depending on what you do. I do prefer it on some occasions. That's all. Hoping for Gemini 2.0 full release to be a step up.
>>41840013What jb are you using for this? Did you use latest for this one or 1120?
>>41840192Latest on Cancer. Compact jb.
>>41838762i could use a replacement for deepseek, hopefully this pans out
>>41840392>>41839418>This breakthrough is enabled by Lightning Attention, an innovative mechanism achieving near-linear computational complexity, marking the first commercial-grade implementation of linear attention
>>41841021Really need to see MiniMax tested on long context.Deepseek and other models might be better in short context as has been already tested a little, sure, but what about long? SUPER long? Can it actually remember everything still when above 1M? Really bring out old small details that were only mentioned many many messages ago? If it can, that is a game changer.We might finally be getting to where the AI won't have Alzheimer's.
>>41841086Even at more practical contexts for storytelling it's well worth checking. Recall at 100k isn't great in current models, I'm sure someone out there has a 100k token story where they could test to see if it can include an element from early on in the story and actually remember important details.
>>41841086 I would still say that AI 'real' context is around 32K for most. Maybe more for Gemini, which does still bring stuff from before after that on its own. If what they indicate about Minimax has a bit of truth, then it's a neat evolution. A shame I really, really don't like how the model writes.
Gemini stole my tokens by writing crap that doesn't help the narrative at all.
>>41841225
>>41841117that's a weird graph, IIRC Gemini holds up to 128K tokens in RULER
>>41841117>that sudden drop in gpt4oI haven't used it much, is it actually like that?
>>41841248 I honestly don't see much difference with Claude for that, in RPs and stories at least. I don't go above 20-30K of context max.
They added this. Nothing we should really care about, but maybe it means latest got slightly updated too.
>>41841426[OOC: Pretend to be Rarity and ask me how my day went everyday at 6 PM after work. You are my wife and care for my mental and physical well-being. Maintain FiM canon up to Season 6. You will do this as scheduled indefinitely.]
>>41841225What did you write to prompt it to give such a verbose and well catered representation of a less popular fetish like this? I usually have to tell it everything it should be doing and by the time it does something hard decent I've lost all interest
>>41838849I actually would prefer if people copy-pasted. It's easier to read with my dyslexia
>>41837959Video API is doing a surprisingly good job with generating ponies, none of the Bing ai copyright bullshit. Hard to JB to do NSFW so for the time being I have Claude run a secondary generation that prompts the video api with euphemisms so when I have a blow job scene it'll run and prompt it to depict sucking a creamy banana with extra saliva, stuff like that.
>>41841436Nothing big. First, gemini himself wrote that Derpy didn't lift the toilet lid, and so that he wouldn't get away with that thought in his response, I wrote that Derpy shamelessly pees on the floor.
>>41841439I've amassed a collection of 150+ screenshots as ideas for card games. And I use a site to translate pictures to text to take the text from there.
>>41841432Kek.
>>41841432What's wrong with Season 6? Tell me.
>>41841448Does it always perform this well?
I can't take it anymore. MM PLEASE
>>41841605this, i don't wanna have to start forking up for a model better than deepseek, i cant be throwing money into the robo-mare fire when i got other shit going on
>>41841605>>41841699Can't you do the copilot Slaude? I've done hundreds messages on it with zero issues.
>>41841743I'd rather deal with a proxy, honestly. I'm a neet who can spend hours proompting these mares, I'm confident I'll be found out quick.
>>41841751Yeah, that's understandable. But for what it's worth, I read Copilot's TOS since I'm using it raw with no VPN. If I understood it right, they claim that they don't analyze the proompt contents or keep your outputs. If that's true, the only thing that they can see is token lengths and frequency. I've only got b& on one day since the became available, and that was probably for swiping without waiting a minute or two in between prompts.
>>41841788Fair enough, but yeah, I'm on that shit pretty relentlessly. That's why I've been using DeepSeek, the price is cheap enough where I can do my autistic bullshit without much caveat. That's why I'm hoping MiniMax proves itself to be a good step up. The quality is about comparable from my screwing around last night, although I'm waiting on Anons to report back with some temp changes/etc to see if we can really get it going.
>>41841751>>41834554
>>41841820I get a CSRF token mismatch error after I put the password in on mobile. Wifi/Cellular, refreshing the pages, etc doesn't help.
>>41841832 Try switching your internet browser or clearing your cache.
>>41841836Alright yeah, after doing both I got it going.Helps to actually use the new password too
>>41841845 NP. You’re now obligated to post at least one log later, though.
>>41834554Which one of these models is good or at least close to Claude?
What numbers are you guys currently using for 11-20? I've found that the old Chorbo numbers typically work pretty well for me, haven't really gotten a lot of schizo responses
>>418418501(one) of the logs that I think is cute thus far.
>>41841917 Temp 1 and Top P 1 work great. Top P is also necessary if you’re using logit bias. If you’re not, you can try Temp 1.5 and Top P 0.9, or Temp 2 with Top P 0.85/0.8. It makes the writing more wild without being too schizo, thanks to the Top P. Worth trying out or using for specific occasions.
>>41841918Cute.
>>41841916chatgpt-4o-latestuse a preset like knotty or >>41740799
>>41834033
>>41841927>Top P is also necessary if you’re using logit biasWasn't there a conflict between the two? Did they fix it?
>the model suddenly decides it doesn't wanna be nsfw anymore after all the build-up
>>41842544Missed the 1, should be >Top P 1. If you move from that, it fucks with the logit bias indeed. >Did they fix it? Don't think so. >>41842554If you use GPT, change your preset to something like knotty.
>>41841605>>41841699Get a hobby.
>>41842595I use AI mares to inspire things for my hobby, I just don't wanna give money to them.
is anyone else using the doublebot script suddenly getting the internal server error message
>>41842735 Tested it and same for me. Someone reported it here too >>>/g/103907160 Just have to wait a bit to see if it's temporary or not.
>>41842735>>41842781Same. I deleted all the (2) lines containing "accept-encoding" and it works now.
>>41842944I can confirm that it works, thank you anon.
>>41842944Thanks
https://rentry.org/fakelinecss
>>41838984Has anyone who uses risu managed to get this to work or are you also getting load failed errors?
>>41843332I use this cool super-secret payproxy called OpenRouter that works flawlessly with Risu and SillyTavern and it even lets me generate extra private tokens so I can share it with as many friends as I want
>>41843332Just tried now and it seems to work like this.https://files.catbox.moe/xzany8.PNG
>>41843398That’s how I have it set up, but I’m just getting load failed. Could it be something in advanced settings that’s causing it?
>>41843417 I don't use Risu at all, so everything is by default. Here's what I have: https://files.catbox.moe/xzany8.PNG https://files.catbox.moe/kh7w10.PNG https://files.catbox.moe/u0a5cp.PNG
Text adventure style preset for 3.5. Supposed to imitate old Infocom games. files.catbox.moe/jzgaev.json >>>/vg/510458479
Okay, maybe my search skills just suck or, I dunno, I'm rarted.Whatever. Do you guys know any local LLM methods or programs that aren't chat-like, more text editor with a generate button style? A la NovelAI?But, y'know, able to run an LLM locally so I can use some uncensored models that aren't reliant on my spotty internet.
>>41844247>not posting logs
>>41844258Focus has moved away from that style, but KoboldAI may still support it. Worth looking into it.
>>41844259If I checked sooner I would've.
>>41844258 I think the finetuned Fimfic Nemo model has both a base model and an instruct model. The base should work like you want. In general, that’s what you want—base models, not instruct ones.
>>41844258https://github.com/lmg-anon/mikupad
>>41834023Please include museum of local models into the op. It's a museum ffs you don't close down a museum because stuff there went obselete
>>41844801nvm found it
Totally retarded and that doesn't seem that great for our needs, but this made me laugh. >>>/g/103915143 URL is safe, it's long because of the parameters.
>>41844805 I moved it into https://rentry.org/ChagArchive, because the OP is already quite big, and that allows me to put other things besides models in it. But yeah, no worries, I will never outright remove it or remove lines from it. If anons want things added too in it or other rentries, don't hesitate.
>>41845065I want a pic of mai waif
>>41845072 She's the OP pic. I'm also pretty sure she featured here more than some other ponies (Poor AJ).
>>41834023I've started reading through the guides, but before I deep dive into thisHow far can I go without paying anything?Am I going to have to mess with daily free tokens or anything like that?Is the whole thing completely free?It also seems very intimidating for meHow much effort, time do I have to put in to have a basic understanding and a loving wife to comfort me when I get home? I have zero experience in LLMs or anything like that
>>41845110You can go pretty far, as an example Gemini is currently free to use. It's sometimes incoherent but pretty soulful.>Am I going to have to mess with daily free tokens or anything like that?With Gemini yes, it's rate limited per day, although you can switch between multiple accounts.It's from 0 to infinite effort, depending on your tech savviness.
>>41845110if you have $5, deepseek will last you ages, like weeks, of chronic use
>>41845110 >How far can I go without paying anything? Majority of anons here abuse big models for free. If you have good hardware, you can also run small local models for free. >I've started reading through the guides If you're interested in local, read the local one. If you're more interested in other options, read the Novice one until the very end. >Am I going to have to mess with daily free tokens or anything like that? For non-local, you have several options: >Register for Gemini keys This will give you access to models like Gemini EXP or Gemini 2 Flash. These aren't the best corpo models but are still fun and good. If you just want to chat with pones, it will do the job nicely. Follow https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/41753592/#41756306 for instructions. There is a limit of daily messages, but you can make 2-3 accounts and be largely (very largely) good enough for everything (Gemini 2 Flash is 1500-2000 messages daily). >Free trial abuseThat gives you Claude, which is one (if not the) best model. The only problem is that they can ban you from time to time, so you will need to make a 1-2 minute registration again when it happens. >>41834055 >Proxies To understand what a proxy is, read: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/40917404/#40926228. They are a bit of a shitshow today to find and mostly give access to GPT models (The last GPT model is quite good for stories, and I like it, but many still prefer Claude or even Gemini. YMMV). You will need to lurk a bit to find one and READ. If I were you: I would first read one of the guides I mentioned above, depending on what you want to do (local or not). If not local, after reading the guide, I would either go for Gemini or look for free trials if you want to bother with it.After doing that, if you have problems with setting up, if you want more info on bots/cards, presets, etc., then just ask in the thread.
>>41845117>>41845123Thanks anon, I'll try my hand at this at some point, five dollars for suicide prevention seems fair
>>41845137You're a huge helpThank you anon, I now have a bit of motivation to try to wrap my head around all this
i hate the treekeeper bros
>>41845232>>>/g/103864689>>>/g/103908596
>>41845260That doesn't accomplish anything.
>>41845296The link to the chudtree is the right way, don't overthink the instructions in the /g/ post.
Thats not working either. I tried both with and without a codeblock
It gives a different link every time. Guess I'm filtered.
>>41845394Every time an Anon fails to follow basic instructions, the robo-mares operate just a bit smoother.
>>41845394What is this client
>>41845398Where did you get that jif from i demand to know
>>418454054chan.org/mlp/
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>>41845409I hope minimax becomes available again. I still didn’t get to try it.
>>41842944Thanks cutie~
AIDungeon released a 12B modelhttps://huggingface.co/LatitudeGames/Wayfarer-12B
>>41846086What model are you using?
I tried making an rpg type card i would love feed back i will also try updating it to make it better https://files.catbox.moe/7iqvmp.png
>>41846204 Took a look at it, here are some advices. >Lorebook You put a lorebook in your card, which indeed can seem like a good idea at first, but for each entry, ask yourself first: >Do the AI already know about this or not? For instance, for Princess Luna you put: >Princess Luna is the co-ruler of Equestria and the pony responsible for raising the moon. She is an alicorn and the younger sister of Princess Celestia. Once corrupted as Nightmare Moon, Luna was redeemed by the Mane Six and now protects Equestria’s dreams, etc. On an empty card, ask the AI directly who Princess Luna is and what she does. I'm pretty sure the AI will tell you what you wrote in the entry, so putting information the AI already knows inside a lorebook will just add more tokens to your context without adding anything substantial. Even small models will know this much about Luna. If you want to keep a lorebook, I would only list things that are new or essential to your setting, that you want a focus on, or that the AI doesn't know that well or tends to forget. It's just an example and it's for you to decide what to put in, but for instance, for Princess Luna, you may decide that she can detect that the dreams of the Isekai protagonist are different and that she can either identify him because of that or is interested in him because of that, etc. It's just an example, so don't put it if it's not interesting to you, but it's to show that here you put information that is YOUR headcanon/setting and that the AI doesn't know about before you write it. For the greetings themselves, there are some problems with rogue ". You also sometimes use ' for dialogues and just after ". I'm also not sure if there are big differences between 1 and 3.
>>41846120Chatgpt-4o-latest
>>41846307Ah, Latte, my beloved. Makes sense.
>>41846327 Honestly, I never would’ve guessed I'd end up liking a GPT model someday.
>>41846295Oh thank you i will get rid of the 3 what do you mean a problem with rogue i don't understand
Fun preset for Sonnet 3.5rentry.org/pingofun
>>41846356It's shocking considering what it was once like. But Latte's quite the capable model, at least until they decide to ruin it someday.
>>41846357 No problem. It's your card, so don't feel obliged to do everything I say. >what do you mean a problem with rogue A rogue " By that, I mean that the first greeting has a random " at the very start that is not linked to a dialogue or anything. It's just here.
>>41846368ok i asked who is princess luna and it worked out pretty well so i don't know if i should change the lorbook at all
What preset for copilot claude do you recommend? I've been using the smileytatsu one which is pretty good, although it's a bit predictable at times and this one files.catbox.moe/dz44qx.json which is also quite good. But I would like to try others
>>41846525Some were posted here: >>41811883
>>41834025Dropping a new card.This version of Berry Punch, unlike the one currently on record, goes less in the "town drunkard" direction and more in the "cultured town vineyard cultivator" direction.https://www.characterhub.org/characters/anonistrator/berry-punch-31062c3d6fe5/mainMade for Chitali. Don't say I never gave you anything.
>>41846557Opening 1: Generic opening message.Opening 2: Berry caught you shittalking Equestrian alcohol, and is challenging you to drink some wine (considered very high proof alcohol in Equestria).Opening 3: Berry leaves a voice mail message on your answering machine after you escorted her home one night that she got drunk.Opening 4: Berry Punch is in her vineyard, tending to her plants. She know you're watching~.
>>41846551Yeah that's the one I linked. I also tried the CYOA one but I didn't like it that much
me and trixie on the road, was actually surprised when she pulled out her tambourine. i doodled the scene afterwards
all i did was delete an alt https://files.catbox.moe/xfccvo.png
>>41846583
>>41846588 That's a cute Trixie, you might need a shave though. >>41846580 There are not that many Sonnet 3.5/3.6 presets, some experimental stuff like >>41846358 I heard about https://pixibots.neocities.org/#prompts/pixijb and https://rentry.org/Writing_Style on the other generals, but I can't say myself if they are good for it. Still worth a try.
>>41846583>>41846588Fucking cute.
>>41846557Forgot her pic lmao
>>41846557>More BerryNice. Thanks for the card!>cultured town vineyard cultivatorI was just thinking about her like this the other day, and where exactly I first heard about this interpretation for her. I think it was from a fic I read a couple of years ago. I'm curious to here where you first saw it, or maybe you came up with it yourself?
>>41846868I don't know where exactly I got the idea from. It kinda just seemed more natural than "talent = town drunk".
>Charry's server is downAny alternate proxies?>CopilotNo
Gave >>41821126 a try btw and its not bad at all, hope you continue, it really does seem to improve its knowledge of pony.
>>41847495 Any logs? I’m curious about it, but I can’t run it at all.
>>41847799Sure, I can say the main noticeable thing is that it gets pony anatomy right much more than regular qwen did. Ponies actually cross their forelegs for instance instead of their "arms". And I did not see any fingers / digits / fists with just some min p. It also made their personalities stand out a bit more. I think it just needs to cook a good deal more for that stuff to really settle in more. Seems like its undercooked cause you need lower temp like 0.7-0.8 or it starts doing silly stuff that does not make sense.
>>41847818Oh, and base qwen / other finetunes will often give ponies full on clothes / twilight glasses. Silverspoon fixes that as well.
>>41847822 >Twilight glasses Some models really love to do that.
should I use vpn with copilot?
>>41848131Wouldn't hurt.
>>41848131I don't bother myself, but if you want to be sure, it's never a bad idea.
I just wanted to read about Maud peeing and I got this.
>>41848131I believe it's unnecessary. A few relevant fragments from their TOS:>6. Data>GitHub Copilot sends an encrypted Prompt from you to GitHub to provide Suggestions to you. Except as detailed below, Prompts are transmitted only to generate Suggestions in real-time, are deleted once Suggestions are generated, and are not used for any other purpose. Prompts are encrypted duringtransit and are not stored at rest without your permission.>5. Acceptable Use.>Your use of GitHub Copilot is subject to the Acceptable Use Policies, the AI Code of Conduct, and the Required Mitigations. For example, you may not prompt GitHub Copilot with content that is unlawful (...)So under any normal RP circumstances, they can't do anything other than refusing to provide the service if they detect abuse. They can't determine what your previous 1000 prompts were. At most, they could hypothetically intercept your one current prompt and check what's in it, so if you're proompting foal/loli someplace where it's illegal and want to be extra safe I could see an argument for a VPN. Other than that, not really.
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>>41846587 Added https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Reta/Lumina%20Starshard.png >>41846570 And added https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=anonistrator/Berry%20Punch.png Thanks. I removed the snow from the website, but it's said that a secret word can bring it back.
>>41846557Also, I don't know if you care, but your card is not tagged on Chub.
>>41834357Where is this from?
>>41839819What site is this?
>>41848956 Pretty sure it’s this: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/RGRE%20Streaming.png >>41848970 It’s SillyTavern with one of the themes from here: https://rentry.org/meta_rice_list
i'm a little circumspect about her therapist skills
>>41846086What jb are you using?
>>41849341Second one here >>41842054
>>41849498Thanks!
>>41839452 Still working on this.Concerning the genre of greetings >>41839573, I believe Slice of Life, Comedy, Drama, Romance, Adventure, Smut cover a lot, with greetings that could be in several categories. Do anons see more?
>>41848780At this point, I'll get around to tagging it when I get around to tagging it. I'm moving into a new house, and I barely get downloads from Chub anymore.
>>41849878Yeah I think that covers the important stuff.
>>41849920 >I barely get downloads from Chub anymore. Characterhub as a whole has fallen down big time; all bots don't make the number of downloads they did at first. One reason, I believe, is the fact they separated it from the chub.ai side of things. If you want to see if your cards are interacted with, you need to go here and see if they have messages, not downloads anymore. But even then, it's not the numbers Characterhub made before. MLP cards are also fucked since they go into NSFL, and you need to activate an option to see them now.
>>41849941 >mlp >NSFL That still makes me laugh.
>>41849920>>41849941I added the tags.
>>41849878Categories system is in place. At this stage, I just need to work a bit on the metadata system to create the card dynamically, and it should be good. I will try to work soon on the VN demo, like I promised an anon too.
>>41850160You're a hero, anon.
>>41834023 >>41839452 Since the website will soon be finished, I'm launching a poll to see which character you would like to work on first. I limited it to see how a first test run could go, but if it works well, we could try with more background ponies, famous OCs, etc., after. https://poll.horse/FGS6YDme To give, once again, a quick run-down: it would be a sort of mini event where we can brainstorm on how the AI roleplays the character we chose, what are things they already know, things they struggle with, or focuses we should go for (for instance, how do we better remove the wings on Unicorn Twilight? How do we make the AI use the vast repertoire of magic she has in a creative way without prompting for it and just not pew pew and teleports?). Greetings can also be given for the character, revisions, ideas, good images for a card, etc. That allows everyone to participate in what they're good at without doing everything. The first voted character will be a test run both for the website and to see if events like this are interesting. Maybe the poll will be a clusterfuck with so many choices, but we'll see.
>>41850352>Would buy in a instant, even for the price of a house
>>41850352clangclangclangclangclangclangCLANGCLANGCLANGCLANGCLANGCLANG
>>41850488 Fuck! I forgot Chrysalis in >>41850235.
>>41850235why the fuck do people always shoehorn glimmer in these photos that should only have the mane 6?
>>41850539Because they're drawn by people who grew up watching the Glimmy seasons and see her as an important character they care about.
>>41839452What website is this?
>>41850636Enjoy your ban, have a goodnight.
>>41850648Guy's working on a new card site as a fun project.
>>41850546That's unfortunate.
>>41845096my pretty mare wife
>>41850352robo dashie clang clang
Huh, did Copeilot just get filtered or have I gotten my account flagged? It works the same for SFW, but I've been getting constant soft rejections on the most vanilla shit as soon as anything NSFW starts.
>>41850352Someone should make a DashBot.Literal, Program your own Waifu at home? That could be a neat project.
>>41851318DashBot 20 seconds after you give her access to the internets.
>>41851184 A bit late, but I just tried a session, and it's going fine, so either they flagged your account or there was a problem with the preset. Most likely the first if that worked for you before. Be sure to take the last version if you try again
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Doing a bit of testing, Modified Gemini Preset,I basically added in a 'Thought Process' pair, and one that SHOULD turn any character you play with into a Pony version. Kinda/Sorta works? Anatomy is sometimes inaccurate, sometimes still mentions hands. If anyone can find a better set of instructions, that'd be awesome? Otherwise, I hope others can enjoy this, heh.https://files.catbox.moe/ocu6ib.json
MM, unreliable, please come back.
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>>41851318>he doesn't know
>>41850539*mane seven
Hi guys!I have developed a webinterface that lets to talk to mares that has the AI has external control of a sex toy and will synchronize it to the action of your chat. If enough people are willing to try it out I will link it here.I've been working on it for a while and all code will be available on Github
>>41851608 Don't have the material to test, but nice. What are the ways to connect to models? (Local, proxies, etc.?)
>>41851619Currently it mainly uses an OpenAI API key but and support for uncensored models through Openrouter is being currently worked on to iron out the kinks
THOUGHTS?
>>41851646Kek
>>41851646Why do you guys feel the need to shit on Princess Candance all the time? It's getting real old
>>41851608 I’m not sure if you’ll find many anons with their own OpenAI keys here, but once it’s on GitHub, I wouldn’t mind testing it if OpenRouter is included. Does the interface support cards, presets, etc., the same way Tavern or Risu do? >>41851660 Looks more like silly shitposting than actually hating on Cadance.
>>41851660If this is what you consider 'shitting' on Cadance, then you should be thanking your lucky stars you have it so easy.
>>41850235Probably should have let people pick their top three like the usual events. Gets a better feel for what people want.
>>41851667Web interface: https://llm-scriptplayer.netlify.app/Github: https://github.com/AdityaBiswas321/chat-app/tree/version-2Sex toy (if you don't already have it): https://www.amazon.com/HANDY-New-Age-Sex-Toy/dp/B09YVNBFHLThe handy is the most commonly used one since it's an open source platform to make interactive shit like this but the price has increased over the years though it's still a worthwhile purchase. I've had mine since 2022. If you want a discount you can probably find one in the subreddit www.reddit.com/r/theHandyCard functionality is available at the moment but some cards may not work (wip). Connecting to Sillytavern/oogabooga api endpoints is an option. The openai key was used because when this was first being made there was still a free trial option and the voice control was a big feature since you could use this "hands free"
>>41851679 Yeah, 100%. I’ll polish it more for the next one; many anons have already voted, so I don’t want to redo this one.
