>Anon, according to this book, animals raised for meat in your world were horribly abused. They were bred to be so monstrously large that it hurt them to walk, mutilated without anesthetic, packed together by the thousands in indoor buildings where they never saw the sky, and then were transported in cramped cages to killing factories where they were mass slaughtered mere weeks into their lives.>You didn't really eat these, did you?>Cruelty to animals is the single most reliable predictor of psychopathic personality disorder. It's a telltale sign that somepony will grow up to be a serial killer. >I'm having Princess Celestia place you under house arrest and surveillance. We can't trust an evil, carnivorous species like yours to participate in Equestrian society. Not until you've shown a willingness to repent for what you've done and give up eating meat.
>>41847365shut up nerd
>>41847365Griffons eat meat
>>41847365>>Cruelty to animals is the single most reliable predictor of psychopathic personality disorder. It's a telltale sign that somepony will grow up to be a serial killer. Think about what you're saying, Twi, do you think most people on Earth are serial killers?
>>41847365How about you shut that trap and chomp on my meat, if you know what I mean. You purple pig.
>>41847365Psychopathic huh, what about all those Pinkies you killed? I know a psychopath when I see one.
Can we just cut to the chase? Veganism is stupid. No one would eat animals if they had personalities and sapience on the level of humans, and presumably the same result could be achieved by just breeding a brainless organism that grew like a plant but was all meat and flesh. This would never become a problem in Equestria.
>>41847432Twilights been waiting to kill or get back at Pinkie since Feeling Pinkie Keen. She smiled inside when this happened.
>>41847365You can't stop me from making my pony sandwiches
>>41847365Yeah, and all that so jews could pack more people into smaller spaces as tax cattle. It wasn't a good place twiggles, usury, not even fucking once.
>>41847443I cannot wait for lab meat to be a viable option. It's probably going to take a lot longer though, and I'm not that early of an adopter.
>>41847365>horribly abusedDepends on the place but most won't(unless you want to count 3rd world ones and I can't say about it)>mutilated without anestheticnot true>packed together by the thousands in indoor buildings where they never saw the skypoint take but only for pigs and chikens
>>41847540Lab meat will never be financially viable, the technology is available now, it's not done because you couldn't keep prices low enough to sell on the market, so it'd have to have the absolute shit subsidised out of it, and as you know...>government efficiencyYou either treat livestock ethically and accept the human population has to be smaller to sustain it, or you decide you want infinite growth forever and lose sleep over the consequences.
>>41847643You can't genuinely tell me that keeping animals alive will be cheaper than feeding nutrient paste to cell cultures forever.
>>41847623>Depends on the place but most won'tI mean, most factory farming conditions would be considered abusive by most people.
>>41847660The equipment is expensive as fuck to operate and maintain and you need a lot of it just to feed one person, and that one person has to be able to afford the product. You don't need an MIT graduate to put a cow out to pasture, let alone operate an industrial farm. Industrial farming is what's been keeping food relatively cheap, you have no idea just how quickly everything would go to shit without it.
>>41847623>>mutilated without anesthetic>not truehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beak_trimmingBeak trimming, a form of mutilation in which the beaks of farmed birds are partially removed, as birds become highly stressed in high density environments and will try to cannibalize each other. It is almost universally practiced in US poultry farms (except in free-range ones) and is legal everywhere on Earth except for parts of Northern Europe. It is never performed with anaesthetic, and is known to cause chronic pain (B.O. Hughes and M.J. Gentle, 1995)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docking_(animal)Tail docking, a form of mutilation in which the tails of of pigs are cut off, always without anaesthetic (except in the EU where regulation requires it), for similar reasons (pigs are stressed out by factory farm conditions and try to compulsively bite each other's tails. Tail docking is extremely common worldwide, and nearly universal in the United States except in California where it was banned by Prop 12 in 2018. Besides the obvious acute pain of having ones tail cut off, it is known to cause chronic pain through hyperalgesia, which is an exaggerated response to noxious stimuli in the affected area (C. Larrondo and H. Bustamante, 2023). It was also regular practice for dairy cattle in the US until it was phased out during the 2010's after new evidence indicated it did not improve milk hygiene as previously believed. Other mutilations without anaesthetic performed on farm animals in the USA and other developed countries include: castration in pigs and cattle (however, in 22% of cases in the US cattle receive anaesthetic before castration, pigs never do), ear cropping and teeth clipping in pigs, and dubbing/desnooding chickens/turkeys (removing their wattles, the fleshy little red thing on their heads). All of this information is available on wikipedia, or you could go to the library and check out a textbook on poultry science or animal welfare and read it for yourself. Or you could ask a farmer. Or you could use common sense and realize that painkillers are not free and farmers are not giving away tens of thousands of dollars to help animals for no reason and the fact that you assumed without evidence that they did betrays an infantile understanding of both the food system and of economics in general.
>>41847738And this is just the stuff practiced in the west, it doesn't take long when looking at china to find video of chinese people frying dogs alive in a wok, or how meats are made kosher, the animal's throat is cut with an obsidian blade without anaesthetic and allowed to bleed out. The only ethical meat to be found is from farms that rely mostly on pre-industrial methods, free range and the like, but it's pretty expensive and that's with them operating on already thin profit margins.
>>41847738I care so much more about the mutilation of an infant male's genitals than I do some animal, and guess which is verboten to mention?All I'd have to do is show Twilight what the evil rulers of my world did to me and she'd understand and feel pity.
>>41847365/mlp/ is not place to shill veganism.
>>41847738>Beak trimming, a form of mutilation in which the beaks of farmed birds are partially removed, as birds become highly stressed in high density environments and will try to cannibalize each other. It is almost universally practiced in US poultry farms (except in free-range ones) and is legal everywhere on Earth except for parts of Northern Europe. It is never performed with anaesthetic, and is known to cause chronic pain (B.O. Hughes and M.J. Gentle, 1995)A shit like this is a shining example why normalfags do not deserve human rights and deserve their suffering.
>>41847365Lol dont care *dabs*
>>41847365Says the pony that allowed a child to be turned into stone
>>41847674>>41847443>Scientists develop non-sentient lichen-like protein-source organism that can absorb any and all nutrients to grow itself, all in the name of ethicsAw jeez, can't wait for the Pink Goo scenario!
>>41848282>become moss man>it's a gay colorfug
>>41847365Twilight that's a book about the griffin empire, what the fuck are you talking about. Why would a book from Earth be here you retard.
>>41847365>They were bred to be so monstrously large that it hurt them to walk, mutilated without anesthetic, packed together by the thousands in indoor buildings where they never saw the sky, and then were transported in cramped cagesBut enough about Americans
>>41847540Lab grown meat won't be healthy. Animals that ate healthy plants outside are packed full of nutrients and thus give high quality meat. Lab grown meat will be void of nutrients and thus be unhealthy.>>41847643>You either treat livestock ethically and accept the human population has to be smaller to sustain itI disagree, the human population doesn't have to be smaller. There is plenty of available space to turn into ethic cattle farms. It will be costly but it can be done. High quality meat is the best food for humans so it makes sense that the states would subsidize it.
>>41848580>There is plenty of available space to turn into ethic cattle farmsWithout collapsing the fucking biosphere, Anon. The agriculture we already do has severely fucked things up, and if you expect Africa to take point on any kind of reliable agriculture, you're laughing. If the natives aren't being obtuse about learning how to manage agriculture, they're busy genociding the people who can.
>>41847365Sounds like someone hasn't had their nuggies yet.
>>41849476>you show twilight dino nuggies>"Y-you mean... these are made out of dinosaurs!?"No. Well... yes, but also no. It's complicated. We'll discuss evolution sometime.
>>41847365But Twilight, you love bacon
>>41847365Has Fluttershy explained the concept of predation to you, Princess?I'm not going to apologize for being the alpha predator species of my world. We all have a job to do, even if you think it isn't pretty.
>>41847365>*checks book's front pages*"Twilight, you can't trust any book published by PETA. They are literally eco-terrorists."
>>41849639If you doubt any of the claims in the OP, you can google them for yourself. They're all quite easily verifiable. Industrial farming practices are not secret.
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