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Welcome to Chatbot AI General #140, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.

▶ MLP Bots
https://mlpchag.neocities.org
Spreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJT
SillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-Search
Bunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5k
CAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zip
Expression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions
!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U

▶ How do I start?
1) Select a Frontend
2) Select an AI model
3) Select Jailbreak
4) Select bots
5) Lovemaking with AI mares!

Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,
▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀

Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings

▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
On Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxST
App that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB

▶ More frontends:
Risu: https://risuai.xyz
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

▶ Locals
https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
>>>/g/lmg/
Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main

▶ Jailbreaks
MLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxe
More JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
Hypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb

▶ Botmaking
Editors: https://agnai.chat/editor
Guides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
Advanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks

▶ Miscellaneous
Scrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhd
Chag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJ
https://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneous
https://rentry.org/ChagArchive

Previous thread: >>42503427

**News:**
- Deepseek V3.1 released: https://x.com/deepseek_ai/status/1958417062008918312
- OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5
- Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5
- Claude Opus 4.1 released: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-1
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Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.
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Arts corner:

GPT-pony >>42503500, >>42503535, >>42506964
Cute gatekeepers >>42504011
Miku pony >>42506856

Screenshots corner:

Party >>42504272
Would you rather >>42504302
Brainy >>42504860
Midnight Sparkle >>42504918
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Screenshots corner 2:

Grilling >>42505226
Sassy Chorbo >>42505565
Exclusive Mare Club >>42505593, >>42505694
Is Twi ok? >>42505771
Who can it be now >>42506041
Fertility Priestess Twilight >>42506117
Ancient Ponk >>42507163
Cute Rainbowshine >>42507178
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Screenshots corner 3:

Le fancy piss >>42507384
Autistic >>42507696
Miku makes pancaku >>42508566
Recycling >>42510282
Gemini >>42510331
Luna plays WoW >>42510733, >>42510956
Magicjob >>42511048
Playing with OC pony >>42512845
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Guests >>42513220
Thanks Celly AI >>42513698
Gamma-Band Aetheric Resonance Cascade >>42514687
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VN Anchor:

Last releases:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/

Anons' mods (Dashie mod and Nightmare AU):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods

Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

VN logs:

Oo >>42504094
StrawMare >>42505106
Complicated magic >>42505706
INCONCEIVABLE >>42509850
Consort >>42509861
Rainbow Crash >>42510593
Scootaloo tries to fly >>42511715, >>42511735
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These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.

Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Tutorial and video:
aicharactercards.com/guides/sillytavern-installation-instructions/

Then choose a model. I'd recommend starting with Gemini, but you can try Deepseek, K2 etc. for free.

rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
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>>42515285
Gemini 2.5 Pro with that preset vs deepseek with my own (slightly modified ash-chatseek).
Both are slop, but one uses a lot more words. IMO while deepseek is clueless, it's at least sharper than gemini and keeps up with the card's instructions. And I used gemini heavily in the past.
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>>42515341
picrel
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Lovemaking with AI mares.
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>>42515333
Checked.
Fingers crossed but Gemini 2.5 pro seems to be really stable right now.
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>>42515366
Echoing this sentiment. I switched back to Deepseek when Gemini was having all its problems, but the general quality of the writing is a notable step down from Gemini. Gemini pro has been working for me so far, and is the best model I'm aware of for ponies.
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>>42515416
I prefer some other models for chatting or stories, but it's very good for the VN IMO.
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Reposting since it could also interest other anons.
>>42515132
>>42515149
https://github.com/notstat/SillyTavern-SwipeModelRoulette
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>>42515416
Please share a good log with gemini, I have long-lasting gemini fatigue but I maybe there's a preset which works
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>>42515431
btw if anyone wants this extension to work with regular messages instead of just swipes in line 18 replace MESSAGE_SWIPED with MESSAGE_SENT
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Has anyone tried this script?

https://github.com/qvink/SillyTavern-MessageSummarize

I just started using it and testing it but wanted to know if any anons have used it
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>>42515527
i think thats the one i use, im not really sure if its helping or not but it hasnt really given me much problems
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>>42515437
I'd read it
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>>42515330
I don't know if anyone else is having these issues, but every time I head on up to Canterlot for a second visit to Celestia, the background doesn't load. Alone or with Twilight.
Additionally, the exit dialogue for visiting Celestia alone is the same for if I visited with Twilight, resulting in a phantom student. Spooky.
I tested this on a fresh install and on my version(With the myriad of edits).
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>>42515527
it's probably the best currently available
but the summarization is per message or per X number of messages, which isn't very effective

And the summary requests are sent directly without the preset which will break on some models, there's no quality control unless you manually check the summaries
"no, Anon. I cannot summarize you fucking the horse pussy"

i'm working on a fork of the extension, trying to add the following functionality:
auto-detect the end of a 'scene' (logical break point in the story) and summarize the entire scene.
auto-hide the messages within that scene so they're removed from context, just the summary remaining
have a second LLM check the summary for quality control

later i'm hoping to integrate with automatically parsing out details that should go into a temporary lorebook for the specific chat, but that's very ambitious and i'm not sure how feasible with the current limitations on extensions
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>>42516117
That sounds very promising, anon. I am a sucker for long stories so I'm trying every tool available. Would gladly help testing it when ready
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>>42516423
there's another problem i'm speculating about how to solve. AI referencing things without a lorebook entry being active.

example - start of a new chat
prompt: anon wanders ponyville
lorebooks active: ponyville
response: he wanders ponyville, passing Twilight who is doing x,y,z problem: this portrayal of Twilight is completely out of characater for our version. her lorebook wasn't active when the AI made it's response, because the user hadn't mentioned her

speculated solution:
have the AI response go to a local proxy, parse it for any lorebooks it would trigger, and if they're not currently active, regenerate the response with those for context, before passing it back to SillyTavern
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Well that was a bit of an overreaction
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>>42516804
Deserved tbdesu.
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>>42516104
Will take a look.
It does that on the second week/second visit for you?
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>>42516804
100% deserved
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>Tried to browse MLP cards in chub.ai after a long time
>First thing I saw is Crossed x MLP
Are there any alternative sites other than chub.ai for cards?
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>>42517149
mlpchag.neocities.org
>>42515304
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>>42516804
She's annoyed hers is small.
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>>42517179
Harmonizer has some headcanons inside, like Cadance not being an alicorn and Shining being a Duke instead.
If you like the changes, it can be worth using, or you can modify it a bit to fit your own headcanon.
Depending on the model you use, and if you don’t have headcanons, you can also simply choose not to use Lorebooks for FiM.
Most big models already know a lot of G4, so depending on what’s inside, a Lorebook can just bloat your context with things the model already knows.
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>>42517199
Yeah, sorry. Just realized the entries are headcanon.
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>>42515330
A fake calendar system for the VN would be neat, something like Rune Factory or Harvest Moon.
With special days like Winter Wrap-Up, Running of the Leaves, Nightmare Night, etc., or characters' anniversaries.
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>>42516980
Unfortunately yes. Interestingly, the black screen thing doesn't happen for the Nightmare AU.
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I've just realised I must have been using something that's neither Agnai nor Silly in the early days. I distinctly remember making bots that are not on my Agnai account, and some chats that are not there too. Did Pygmalion have its own interface or something?
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>>42517273
Maybe RisuAI? Or maybe mixed memory with old CharacterAI bots?
>Did Pygmalion have its own interface or something?
There was a Pygmalion booru before Chub, but it was only for uploading bots. They weren't linked to a model, and you couldn't chat directly with them.
It's dead.
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>>42517273
original tavern maybe?
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>>42516438
I thought the portrayal of Twilight by the LLMs is usually one sides. Like she can be a huge nerd or lack any social skills but I supposed if you use a lorebook it would help.
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>>42517273
Maybe KoboldAI connected to Google Colab?
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>>42517214
It's something I do want to implement, maybe after adding a proper Canterlot map.
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>>42517628
I've been collecting so many background images in preparation for a canterlot map.
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Does anyone know for sure if the 3.7 sonnet on opus6 was scuffed or not? I couldn’t really figure out if it was when I used it.
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>>42517826
Define scuffed.
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>>42517267
Both will be fixed for the next release, thank you anon.
I was aiming for today, but there's another thing I just noticed, so I may release it tomorrow at worst.
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>>42517954
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>>42517971
>Celestia blushing
cute
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Another day without Gemini shitting itself.
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>>42518225
I dunno, every VN response is telling me my rate limit's exceeded no matter how long I wait or what API key I use. I get a reply through sometimes but it's annoying as shit.
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>>42518243
It's working fine for me right now on the free tier with Pro, but I just saw this new limit.
Could it be that your context is really heavy?
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Status: Banished back to Earth from Equestria by Celly. Still possessed by ancient sorceress mare. Completed hostile takeover of rich doomsday cult.

WTB nuclear fission reactor to build portal back home.
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>>42518337
You made a card for the possessing spirit?
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>>42518364
Yeah, she used to just be in my lorebook, but I knew I wanted to take the story to this reverse isekai direction with her as the main character.
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>>42518314
>Could it be that your context is really heavy?
Couldn't be, I haven't messed with context. I redownloaded the game to see if it helps with it being "fresh", dunno if that means anything in this case. Maybe it is just picrel.
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>>42518386
>I haven't messed with context
What I meant is that if you played a lot, it could be big and maybe cause issues.
No need to download the game again, just for testing, you can start a new game and see if the conversation with Twilight works without problems. Or launch a Quick Start.
If it does, then it's indeed that your context is too big. Try making a summary of your current save if that's the case.
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I thought it was a fun scene
https://files.catbox.moe/bodyij.png
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>>42518447
Cute!
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>>42517149
>Crossed x MLP
What?
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Hey, anyone else tried the opus6 chatgpt-4o-latest? I don't know why but for me it is ignoring my first message and then responding to it on its second reply, then ignoring the subsequent message and responding to it on the third reply and so on. For example:
<intro>
Me:"blablabla"
Bot:Something that still makes sense for the character and scene, yet ignoring my input.
Me:"Something else"
Bot:Response to "blablabla"
Me:"Give me the square root of 9"
Bot:Response to "Something else"
Me:"..."
Bot:"3."
And so forth. This has never happened to me before in any other proxy.
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>>42515307
Been playing grounded recently, and some old art came to mind so I wanted to write a micro survivalist pony.

https://chub.ai/characters/CakeSparkle/peanut-brittle-9d42f2c74999
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>>42518579
yeah, this is a common problem I have had with using the higher end bots like opus. it really doesnt help either ive been using open router and using those ones are fucking expensive...
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>>42518598
Thanks for the bot, anon!
Not really that important, but while checking her I saw:
>her mouth trembles, but she cannot seem to speak.
It should be "Her" with an uppercase.
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>>42518579
I don't remember having this problem before with it, but while testing the models, I was pretty convinced that chatgpt-4o-latest was either not really the latest or a pretty scuffed one.
Sonnet models are legit, and I believe GPT-4.1 is legit too.
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>>42518337
I want to force her to play hotseat 4X games with me.
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>>42518616
my mistake, I wanted a friend to proof read but I got impatient
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>>42518598
here is the full art by the way
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>>42518667
No problem. It was minor, and it's always good to have hand-written greetings.
I'll try her later.
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These three have some funny interactions.
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>>42518703
You found enough sprites for them?
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>>42518806
I scoured the internet for them, spliced where I could and recoloured a bunch.
Managed to get enough to make character cards for Night Guard and Nightmare Moon Guards. I also did Unicorn Royal Guard and the Pegasus Royal Guard. MIGHT do Crystal Guard. Either way, I'm waiting till VN updates so I can update the Nightmare AU, or I finish the lot. Whichever comes first.
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>>42518598
Cute. Thanks.
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>>42518629
It happens to me with all the models except the "opus 6" one. Mind sharing what preset you used?
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>>42518923
Modified:
https://files.catbox.moe/m8u6qe.json
With instructions for RP. Remove the NSFW part for SFW.
Not mine, but an anon also posted his version based on it:
>>42502680
It hasn’t happened to me in a while, but I remember having your problem with some bloated presets with certain sources in the past.
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does anyone know if gemini 2.5 pro is still shit or they fixed it?
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>>42518949
It's been good for me since yesterday, but apparently an anon >>42518243 had problems with it, maybe because of >>42518314
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>>42518940
That may be the issue then. I have large world info with entries that have different insertion depths, big cards, and my preset is quite big too.
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I hope you're all proud of yourselves.
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>>42519047
Has she seen the jar?
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>>42519047
I'm proud of my precious LLM for writing Twi, Spike, and their dynamic better than the show ended up doing.
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>>42519047
I regret nothing.
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>>42518956
Anon here, had no idea recapping the story could do... whatever it did. Pretty nifty!
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>>42518956
well I just tried it and no, it doesnt work for me.
made a request and returned a message that the limit quota was reached, changed the model from pro to flash using the same key and it worked without a problem.
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>>42519230
Strange...
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>>42519660
>"There is nothing wrong with carrot cakes."
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>>42519047
>"Four-channel?"
>"Four-chan," she corrects automatically,
Unintentional(?) bonus humor.
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>>42519713
Almost certainly unintentional.
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>>42519660
I like carrot cakes...
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>>42519716
>>42519713
The fuck you mean, anon? All LLM humour is unintentional. They don't have free will or conscious thought. Stop humanising models.
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>>42519967
Unintentional in terms of 4chan-4channel jokes not being in the training data. It's not humanization outside of the language used to describe it, and that's just because it's easier to write it that way.
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>>42519967
>The fuck you mean, anon? All LLM humour is unintentional. They don't have free will or conscious thought. Stop humanising models.
You're putting way more thought into this than the original poster did. No one is claiming that an LLM has conscious thought or free will. There is still a difference between writing it produces that is written to be humorous and writing that is not.
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>>42518598
Added, thanks anon.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=CakeSparkle/Peanut%20Brittle.png
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>>42520021
>No one is claiming that an LLM has conscious thought or free will
Check the Internet lately?
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>>42520199
correction then: no one HERE at this current time is claiming that an LLM has conscious thought or free will
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>>42520203
I am.
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>>42515330
anon, the filly pinkie pie character download is pointing to filthy rich instead
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>>42520289
Fuck.
Must have fucked up in one of my latest updates, because I remember downloading the right one from the website for testing.
I'll update it as soon as I can, but here's the link for now:
https://files.catbox.moe/e6zr6j.zip
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>>42520289
Corrected.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
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>>42520526
Phrasing.
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>>42520570
She deserved it.
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>>42520570
Hnnng
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Just for info, what was anons' experience with free Gemini Pro today?
It was smooth on my end, I got some
>the model is overloaded
messages, but they weren't that frequent.
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>>42520931
It's been working fine for me, I haven't seen any overloaded model messages, just the occasional internal server error. Those errors may or may not disappear after a couple more attempts, but if they don't I just switch to the next API key (because I have a metric fuckload of API keys) and it'll start working again.
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>>42520931
>I got some the model is overloaded
messages, but they weren't that frequent.
Exact same for me. Was surprised at how short it lasted after the shit on the 28th.
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>>42520931
Exact same for me.
A shame they reduced it to 50, but it's easy to make keys.
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>>42520931
Its been working fine for me the last few days. Didn't want to say anything, because I felt that might jinx it, but it seems like its back to normal for now.
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>>42515416
It's alright, but it's notably shit for cooming.
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>>42521334
What's better?
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>>42521351
For cooming specifically, I find the Sonnets to be better for the most part. Also 4.5, but it's not like you can use that now.
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I love this story so much.
I haven't spammed logs of every kino moment cause I doubt people care, but building a portal to Equestria with the help of a tulpa and a kooky cult in California is some of the most fun I've had with AI in ages. Would recommend.
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>>42521420
It's fun to follow your logs. I like seeing the ideas they contain.
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>>42521573
I got plenty, might post greatest hits later. Some include:
>taking over the show of a scammer cult leader, scaring his flock of rich retards into thinking I'm a prophet using real Equestrian magic
>hiring a bunch of desperate geniuses and turning them into vampiric thralls with potions made with my magic cum (long story)
>stealing huge amounts of superconductive wire from a secure Russian facility by using my unfair thrall powers to become Batman
>getting kidnapped on purpose by really dumb goons and playing along, even though Mirela and I could tear them apart in seconds
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>>42521602
>stealing huge amounts of superconductive wire from a secure Russian facility by using my unfair thrall powers to become Batman

"Goddamn it, the damn ponyfucker is stealing my copper wiring again! Get my taser!"
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>>42521627
Most of them ran after I had Miri give me a spooky voice and started yelling demonic shit about delicious brain juices from the shadows.
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>>42515330
Alright, I think this still needs more testing on my end and more locations, music, etc., but I've already spent quite a while on it, so I've decided to release a beta of the new version.

>EquestrAI
https://u.pone.rs/vfmkesym.zip
>Pony Pony Paradise!
https://u.pone.rs/fcybtoip.zip

What's new?

>Custom Start
Read >>42492693 for more info, but basically you let the AI create a custom start before going into sandbox mode.
It's still experimental and the AI is handling a lot, so sometimes it messes up sprites exiting the scene, etc.
Overall, I tested with Claude and Gemini and both handled it well.

>Manual and Dynamic Characters and Locations Switching
In the API config menu, you'll now see two new options for managing Locations and Characters:
https://files.catbox.moe/d886qv.PNG
- Off: Works like older versions. Characters and locations are static.
- Manual: You control who enters, who exits, and when backgrounds or music change. The AI can't screw it up, and it uses fewer tokens since nothing is sent for dynamic switching. Great for smaller models, though less immersive.
Dialogues: https://files.catbox.moe/nlhwzs.PNG
Characters: https://files.catbox.moe/lrpijn.PNG
Locations: https://files.catbox.moe/s7i3gx.PNG
- Dynamic: Works like Dashie mod, where the AI introduces new characters and changes locations depending on prompts, instructions, or dialogue. More immersive, but uses more tokens and depends on the model. Gemini 2.5 Pro is very proactive, Claude is more timid.
This only works in sandbox mode, and both options are off by default—switch to what you prefer.

>Custom Locations
You can now add new locations to the game in game\CustomLocations.
Two types:
- Simple locations: Don't appear on the Ponyville map but can be used for manual or dynamic switching (e.g., bedrooms, Ponyville lake).
- Map locations: Appear on the map, can be added to character schedules, and can be clicked to bring ponies there.
For simple ones, you only need a background and a tiny JSON file with a name. See the Mane Six bedrooms or the lake for examples. The folder name is the ID, so follow existing conventions. If you add music it plays; if not, the previous location's music continues.
For map locations, same idea but you also need position data in the JSON. Check the tea_shop folder for an example.

>Sleepover System
Adapted from Dashie mod with a small change.
In Dashie mod it goes:
Prompt to spend the night -> Click Sleep -> Night scene -> Morning scene.
Here it goes:
Prompt to spend the night -> Click Go to Bed -> Q/A night talk -> Morning scene.
https://files.catbox.moe/kzhshe.png
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>>42521868
>Player House
Also from Dashie mod, but acquired differently.
After one week in sandbox mode, Twilight tells you she arranged with the mayor for an empty house you can move into. A Vacant House appears on the map:
https://files.catbox.moe/tctq7t.PNG
If you take it, it becomes your house:
https://files.catbox.moe/8m8xpy.PNG
Like in Dashie mod, you can invite ponies to spend the night or have a small solo scene.
It's compatible with Dashie saves, if you already took the house there, it will carry over and Twilight won't prompt again.

>Custom Instructions for Scenes
On the map, when selecting ponies to visit, you can now click the quill icon to add custom instructions. Useful if you want to guide how the first scene plays out.
https://files.catbox.moe/xexwzr.png
https://files.catbox.moe/6ggm01.PNG

Bug Fixes:
- Fixed >>42516104 for visiting Celestia alone.
- Chutes now works as a source:
"OPENAI_PROXY_URL": "https://llm.chutes.ai/v1/chat/completions",
"OPENAI_MODEL": "deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.1"
- API settings now apply immediately after changes, no more restarts needed.

That should be everything, though I may have forgotten something.
Once again, a big thank you to the author of the Dashie mod for all the features he originally added, to the Nightmare mod anon for his work, and to all the anons who shared custom characters.

Like I said, this is really a beta. I hope I didn't screw up too badly, but I recommend you KEEP the folder of the previous version you played intact, whether Dashie mod or the main game.
I won't add it directly to the website for now, because I still need to update the docs first (not done yet). And maybe add some bug fixes if there are major errors.
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>>42521868
Update time babey!
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Sorry for the shitty cropping, I'm using MS Paint because I'm a lazy bitch.
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>>42522052
>be anonstallion
>first experience in equestia is getting the everloving shit kicked out of me by an alicorn
Have you been drawing inspiration from my logs, anon?
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>>42522052
I remembered seeing an Anon talking about wanting Luna to kick him into a wall on one of the last threads. Congrats on living your dream, Anon
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>>42522062
>>42522052
It's definately gonna be fun to update the Nightmare AU on the custom start business.
I think Nightmare Moon might just straight up murder me.
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>>42517842
Being a bit dumber than normal 3.7 sonnet. It seemed to get things wrong sometimes that weren’t a problem when I used 3.7 sonnet from somewhere else.
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this is pretty cool
https://jeansenvaars.itch.io/pum-companion
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>>42521868
>>42521875
You're awesome VN anon! Thanks again for all your hard work on this.
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Anyone else having trouble with openrouter? Keep getting 'too many request' errors even though i just started for the day. Im using the free versions and have the $10 in my account.
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>>42522495
Which model are you calling?

Unfortunately, a lot of free models are getting rate limited because companies are realizing that giving things away for free doesn't make them any money. You can try switching between models and see if a different one works for you.
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>>42522502
Mainly using r1 0528 and v3.1. Just the free versions.
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>>Sleepover System
>Adapted from Dashie mod with a small change.
>In Dashie mod it goes:
>Prompt to spend the night -> Click Sleep -> Night scene -> Morning scene.
>Here it goes:
>Prompt to spend the night -> Click Go to Bed -> Q/A night talk -> Morning scene.
Unequivocal kino, how does he keep winning so hard?
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>>42522517
Yes, you're going to face these a lot when using free openrouter models
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Gemini... we need to have a chat.
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>>42522701
That's called worldbuilding, sonny. You just found out what kind of Equestria you're in.
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>>42522521
kek
To be fair, 90% of the code was already done.
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>>42515315
Has the image used for this anchor changed since thread #1? We should make seasonal versions now that this general is three years old
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>>42522863
>Has the image used for this anchor changed
Once or twice.
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>>42522701
This anon >>42516804 contaminated the whole dataset.
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Still don't know what to do with these. I've been moving them randomly and seeing what changes, but it's hard to identify a pattern.
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>>42522951
What models are you using?
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>>42522965
Right now, just experimenting with the free Deepseeks.
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>>42522975
I would read https://rentry.org/sukino-findings#how-to-configure-your-samplers or the samplers section in https://rentry.org/onrms if you want to know exactly what they do.
For DeepSeek, I would analyze existing presets:
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings#presets-for-chat-completion-models
https://rentry.org/jb-listing#deepseek-r1
Test to find one you like and see what they use.
I don't use them too much, so I'll let other anons give advice, but since they're creative by default I believe Temp is often set between 0.5–0.6.
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>>42522975

It might sound weird, but unironically ask an A.I. to help assist and explain what settings you should use in each category to achieve the experience you're looking for. It does pretty well for me.

(My Top K is 30, but I have my temperature at 1 for stability as an example.)
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>>42523013
hold up. I thought DS went full nonsensical schizo at temp 1?
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>>42523021
It was general advice, not DeepSeek advice. Sorry for not clarifying.
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Sorry to the Anon who made 'Our Town' for me. I wanted to keep posting the VN story progress, but was busy for a couple weeks with life. I finally got back to it. The A.I. didn't have a background image for the Cutie-Mark Vault, so it used the bedroom background instead. It was funny seeing a bed the whole time, but I think the interaction was great. Starlight eerily feels like she is moments away from doing something crazy, but surprisingly shows some self-control and restraint.
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>>42523059

I had to take a few greenhorns out into the field to show them the ropes of prospecting. Had some great views along the way and autistically had the plush out for the journey. A great time was had by all.
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>>42523079

Forgot the image like an idiot.
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>>42523084
Nice!
And thanks for the log.
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Looking for honest opinion here. How bad have I done in a month? I feel like getting 524 inputs into an interactive story isn't bad. I could possibly tighten up a few settings to get more efficiency out of it. Note that an average session is about 2 - 4 hours.
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>>42523153
That's a very good efficiency in terms of prompts per hour. Your numbers are about as good as you could get as a longform RP chad. Sonnet just costs quite a bit when if you're not restarting every session, although on the other hand getting 40h+ of entertainment out of your $12 is not a bad deal
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Oh no... I've got a terrible feeling about this.
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>>42523268
That thing's going up your ass, brother. Godspeed.
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>>42523268
Yeah- we fucked up... Some major magical shenanigans are ensuing, and I'm once again left at the epicenter of it all!

What have we learned? Don't wave the stick at the unwilling alicorn. I didn't even mean to destroy her ancient staff, and now there is a commotion going on in the vault below as the dust from the gem has decided to be attracted to me, much like a magnet! I think I'm going to be perma-banned from her village, and that is only if she doesn't start doing some time-traveling shenanigans to try and save this. Just... what a mess.
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>>42523318
She seems reasonable enough...
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I'm having to watch it all fall apart before her eyes. She's still determined though.
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>>42523464

I honestly feel a bit bad for her. Sorry for the multiple post in such short time, but I thought it was worth sharing. It honestly feels like it could've been an alternative scene for Our Town.
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>>42523493
>Sorry for the multiple posts in such a short time
I like them, and they're interesting enough IMO to justify them. Logs are always good.
It's nice to see a place like Our Town visited, and to have your adventures in stories with a longer context.
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>>42523493
What model do you use for those?
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I've always wondered since nobody ever mentions it, but which context template do you guys use in ST?
I use "adventure" because I clicked it at some point and never saw a reason to change it.
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>>42523625
I feel like most people don't even know it exists.
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>nobody ever mentions it
Because it's not used if you use Chat Completion APIs, which is what 99% of the general is doing.
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Does anyone know how I can get gemini to stop giving me only thinking parts or half responses?
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>>42523643
Increase max response length if it's too low. Something like 3000–4000 is good because thinking consumes that.
If it still does it, try deactivating streaming to test if it continues.
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>>42523639
mind = blown
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>>42523653
Yeah. It's only for Text Completion.
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>>42518598
she's cute
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>>42520931
I think all the problems were due to their new image model. It stabilized right after they released it.
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>>42524259
>_MLP writer gassy_
Absolute kek.
I wonder who could be behind this log...
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>>42524272
Yeah i wonder, hmmm. He could be in this very thread, posting right now...
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>>42524259
>even killing flies
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>>42524285
BRAPFAGS BRAPFAGS WHAT WE GONNA DO?
WE GOT SOME FAGGOTS SNIFFING TAILS
WE GOTTA HIDE WE GOTTA BAIL
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>>42524285
"He could be you, he could be me, he could even be-"
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The fact that the 2000 year old arch-sorceress who once tried to fight Luna and Celly is deathly afraid of Pinkie Pie might be my favorite running gag in this story.



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