Welcome to Chatbot AI General #142, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJTSillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-SearchBunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5kCAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zipExpression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrmshttps://rentry.org/sukino-findings▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxSTApp that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chat▶ Localshttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments>>>/g/lmg/Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ BotmakingEditors: https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks▶ MiscellaneousScrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhdChag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJhttps://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneoushttps://rentry.org/ChagArchivePrevious thread: >>42540611**News:**- Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/- Deepseek V3.1 released: https://x.com/deepseek_ai/status/1958417062008918312- OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5- Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>42540615
Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.
Bots corner:Bitter Cheerilee https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=BGM/Bitter%20Cheerilee.pngThe Counter Mares https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=littlewitcher/The%20Counter%20Mares.pngScreenshots corner:Preening >>42543658 Waking up with Berry >>42546466 Monster Attack >>42546494 Belly Technique >>42547271 Rainbow Tats >>42549013, >>42550088 Bitter Cheerilee >>42550783, >>42551027, >>42551165 Rarity Skill >>42552537
Screenshots corner 2:Willow Ember logs (for real) >>42548825, >>42553177, >>42553300, >>42557450, >>42557514, >>42561278, >>42561393 Portal inside a portal >>42555707, >>42555708
Screenshots corner 3:Fluttershy hobby >>42557057 Grapefruit >>42559287 Anon’s dream >>42560658 Portal mare >>42562212 Estrus isn’t like in my clop >>42562790 WTF does she want? >>42562903 Having a herd >>42563319 Starlight reformation plan >>42564106, >>42564332
Screenshots corner 4:Kimi Rarity >>42564566, >>42566190, >>42566203, >>42566253 Kimi Berry Punch >>42566317, >>42566331, >>42566348 Once you go pink >>42568397 A wild dream >>42570525
VN Anchor:Last releases:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/Anons' mods (Dashie mod and Nightmare AU):https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/modsCustom characters:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/charactersVN logs:Wrong Carrot >>42544298 Donuts for Royalty >>42549812 Meta VN >>42556849 Beauty and the Beast >>42558148 Hostage situation >>42563869 Being called out >>42569970 Doctor A. Stotl >>42570902Anon's map >>42571347
>>42571697These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.Install SillyTavern:github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernTutorial and video:aicharactercards.com/guides/sillytavern-installation-instructions/Then choose a model. I'd recommend starting with Gemini, but you can try Deepseek, K2 etc. for free.rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
Lovemaking with AI mares!
>>42571775
> opus 6 downpanicc
>>42571845 Seems like a classic Cloudflare problem. I would just wait a bit.
>>42571729Stealth release of the new version, I will upload it correctly on the website once I'm sure it's stable and without too much bugs.So make sure to keep your previous installation safe.>EquestrAI:https://u.pone.rs/tludixfz.zip>PonyPonyParadise!:https://u.pone.rs/tyhlcxpr.zip>Update:Canterlot!:Locations available on the map are: The Throne room, Royal Garden, Donut Joe's shop, Airship Harbor, Canterlot Café, Canterlot Plaza, Shopping DistrictAnd for dynamic or manual switching: Luna's bedroom, Celestia's bedroom, train station.The CustomLocations folder is now separated between a Ponyville and Canterlot folders, so if you added some new place, make sure to place them in the right folder.https://files.catbox.moe/e0htc7.PNG To go to Canterlot, click on the train station.https://files.catbox.moe/pbe01p.PNG Here you can go directly to it or trigger a train scene with a random pony that will also go to Canterlot for the day.https://files.catbox.moe/2cmcgd.PNG https://files.catbox.moe/ixi17s.PNG To switch to Canterlot to Ponyville, click on the button here.https://files.catbox.moe/05p9xn.PNG This will be updated later, with also a better station system.- Celestia and Luna are available in Canterlot for visits outside of the dream realm or the weekly convocation.- New characters: Blueblood, Fleur de Lys, Fancy Pants, Donut Joe and Photo Finish.- Locations can now have description that will be sent to the AI if your scenes happen here.https://files.catbox.moe/eczm1j.PNG Check the Lake in Ponyville for an example on how to do this.- You can activate an option to be able to advance to the afternoon during Q/A. It's off by default, so enable it here if you want it.https://files.catbox.moe/g0tki8.PNG https://files.catbox.moe/u8ssmu.PNG - Pressing back or scrolling should normally always work for both scenes and Q/A.- The option to get your own house now activate after one day in sandbox mode.>Stuffs I need to add: - Better train and station system on the Canterlot side.- A place to sleep in Canterlot, either a guest room or Twilight's old one.- Some of the Dashie mod checks: >>4252895, >>42529249 - Update the docs, lol
>>42571864>>4252895huh?
>>42571930Fucked up, was >>42528951
>>42571930I love it when someone fucks up a quote and it redirects to a 10+ year old thread.Also makes me feel kinda sad
>>42571955Feel joy in knowing that you've been part of something that's lasted that long.
>>42571845it's never been more over
>>42571864i pray every day that he keeps getting away with this
>>42571864You are the best VNAnon.
>>42571709nice
Is there a free source for GLM? I'm looking for something that isn't Gemini to test out and I hear glm is better than kimi
>>42571775no idea what you would call those half boot things but fuck thats hot
if opus6 goes online again, hope he adds a kimi key
>>42571989don't worry I'm sure he's adding opus7
>>42572283opus7? you guys didnt even enjoy opus6 :(
>>42572306It's okay, people will fucking love Opus 8.
>>42572306Hey, I did! It has a bit of claude 2.1 vibe to it.
>>42572245GLM Air is free on ORSince Opus6 is dead, there's a new preset made for the chinkmodels called Sushi. For Kimi, Deepseek, GLM. But it worked with Latte and Gemini too https://discord.com/channels/1157939799433429032/1403262492389412865/1416709568993693706I tried to upload it to catbox, but it keeps erroring every time.
>>42572444>>42572444>I tried to upload it to catbox, but it keeps erroring every time.how about litterbox or pone? does it still error out?
>>42572452After litterbox puked out an angry wall, I took a guess and removed one of the symbols in the filename. It accepts it nowhttps://files.catbox.moe/k6geu0.json
Hey VN Wizard, you got the full scale image for the Airship Harbor? Not the background version.
>>42572611>>42571864Neglected to TAG
>>42572444Is this any good?
>>42572763I've been enjoying it on Deepseek. Haven't really stress tested it tho.
>>42572763>Is this any good?- The Banned Scent/Taste List: The phrases "smell of ozone"god tier preset
She can't resist my duck-patterned socks
i'm getting tired of all the slop models, and doing longform roleplays less and less these days since losing access to claudewhich model/preset performs the closest out of whats generally available?
Having Fluttershy work at a hotline is fun.
>>42571758Ah, cool cool.Time to play as Apple Bloom using her friends as potion test subjects.
>>42572986 Posting this one too because it's just cute. And catboxing another one to avoid spam: https://files.catbox.moe/etstiv.png
>>42573017 >the mayonnaise bit I need that.
>>42572611 >you got the full scale image for the Airship Harbor? I took a look, and sorry, I only have the final result. I don't even remember where it came from.
>>42571864Tourist here, can someone explain the difference between EquestrAI and PonyPonyParadise? Latter sounds like an eroge name so that's what I'd assume automatically.
>>42573488They are the same, the vote between what to name the VN was pretty even between those two, so we were given both.
>>42573488 >can someone explain the difference between EquestrAI and PonyPonyParadise? None. https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42431780/#42440392 I found this funny back then, and it's a bit of a meme now since we often get that question.
>>42573488>spoilerSee? I told you guys that name was based and VNpilled.
>>42573488Now that you've got your answers, tell us - which one do YOU prefer?
>>42573494>>42573495Lmao thanks.>>42573515PPP is cooler until someone shells out 70 bucks on the equestr.ai domain tbqh.
>can't port the VN assets into https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions because ST still has hardcoded emotionsSomeone really should fix that.Or port the code into a new extension without hardcoded emotions.
So, since opus6 is ded is there any other source for latte available? I don't want to play with doodoo models
>>42573629Nope. Unless you count OpenRouter.
back to proxyhopping... I'm so tired, bros, so tired
>>42573714I like kimi better, and if you really need claude for some reason just pay for it, $20 a month is not too much to ask is it? go to last thread
>>42573856Cute.
>>42571697Not that interesting for us, but still.https://openai.com/index/introducing-upgrades-to-codex/
>>42572885>wearing socks in publicWhore. I didn't know fluttershy goes for your type.
What happens in the VN if you just antagonize everypony and generally act like an asshole? They cannot just shun you away and refuse to interact, I don't know if it's even possible to code in.
>>42574185 >I don't know if it's even possible to code in. The easiest way would be to add an end-of-the-week bilan/scene, where the AI is free to create scenes with prompts telling it that they can boot you out if you're a complete asshole. It could be a fun optional thing to implement, with the possibility of events or quests too. But yeah, I have no doubt it's possible to act in a way that logically breaks the game structure since you're free to prompt however you want.
>>42574093speaking of, how do you codefags use this?I tried codex on the plus plan, it's awesome, burned through my weekly quota in like a daynext plan up... pro at $200
gpt4.5 was so fucking good my best RP chats i have going right now are still continuation forks of stuff i started on 4.5god i miss it. it was literally perfect but we'll never get anything close now because its not corpo+cheap enough. i hate enshitification
>>42574219 >burned through my weekly quota in like a day If you have a proxy, you can use other extensions like Roocode, etc. But yes, other than that, you won't find cheap subscriptions without limits. I believe Gemini CLI is free, but it isn't that great either.
>>42572986Cuteee, what model or jb is this?
>>42574219It's good enough to write you a quick tool or some stupid boilerplate that should be abstracted away ages ago. Basically, if something was implemented thousands times in subtly different ways already, the llm can do it.
>>42574316 Gemini 2.5 Pro with a free key. I'm using the preset an anon posted some threads ago: https://files.catbox.moe/uuzjg4.json I just remove the NSFW part for SFW sessions.
Gemini started giving shorter replies recently? like noticeably shorter by like half on average. any help or fix for that specifically?
>>42573856Oh no, I just realized EAi/PPP is pre-Season 4/5.Somehow Golden Oaks didn't make it click, but the CMC being unmarked did.Though I assume I could probably just do a S6/7 mod easily enough. Replace Golden Oaks with the Castle of Friendship, add whatever's necessary for the CMC to have their marks, and then add Glimmer.I'd say S8, just to be modern (without making S9 canon...), but adding the whole Student 6 & school would be a lot of work.
>>42574428 We do have Glimmer as a custom character, but she's pre-reformation and came to Ponyville to recruit/promote her village. You can see an anon having adventures with her in Our Town here: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42540611/#42540654 https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42488257/#42488276
>>42574464Oh right, I forgot about that Glimmer.All the better; there can be two Glimmers for whatever era of the show one wants to RP in.
>>42574383Did you use the same preset as before?I didn't notice any change.
I just got this message and I'm not really sure what to do about it. Did I mess up my JB or is the roleplay just that bad? Just started showing up after I changed proxies.
>>42574742Different Gemini keys have different levels of censorship, don't they?
>>42574742This is a separate filter. The jb only affects if the llm will print "I can't do that". Maybe the proxy doesn't set or overrides the safety settings.
>>42574742 Usually it only does that for foalcon or other extreme content, but dunno. If you are doing that, maybe check: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42503427/#42508871 Otherwise, it could be the key on the proxy or Gemini shitting itself. Try without streaming too, to see.
>>42574742yes you messed with your preset. this is a pre-built hardcoded google error that flashes when their content filter detects: nonconsent (including rape), molesting, harassment, CSAM, bestiality, incest, and graphical violence. it is solved via prefill. double-check what are you are doing with your prompt and return prefill backif you are a newfren - prefill is a type of prompt listed at the very end of your whole prompts stack (prompt template) and it must have an Assistant role>changed proxiessome proxies may be scuffed and ignore prefill (last message as Assistant). in this case godspeed. try to fuck around censorship with system prompt or whatever
>>42574754Messages do generate pretty consistently when I'm using 2.0 Flash, but message quality obviously nosedives, so this is definitely true. I'm going to try fiddling with individual models.>>42574765I just want to be groomed by an older mare...Am I doing this right? Also, thank you for the advice.
>>42574810It might be the wording. The dump AI uses dumb words, but the smarter one gets it better. The better response gets shutdown by the filter because it's more to the point, which is SS from what I'm getting.You can try encouraging euphemisms to fool the filter, less explicit.
>>42574810 >older mare If you're playing a foal, it can be anal, yeah. Try some of those >>42574760
Just wondering. Is the free version of Kimi2 also down for you guys or is it an issue on my end?
is opus6 really is kill or is it just temporarily down
>>42575113 It's on OR's side. >>42575127 No one knows. Just wait and see.
>>42575113Streaming request failed with status 429 Too Many RequestsKimi chan is overloaded and needs a recharge
>>42575133i think this is the first time ever i've seen kimi being overloaded
>>42575249Come home white man
>>42575319The fuck is this bald abomination?
>>42575327newfag.
>>42575319Cute
>>42575327
>>42575650Fuck now I feel like a monster I'm sorry
>>42573629Yes. pee archive alan skiingJokes about it being refilled seemingly accurate for the time being.
>>42575327*swipe*
>>42575706preset for latte? never tried it and having serious claude withdrawl
I'm curious. Whatever happened to latte getting another snapshot. Last or was 11-20 but for me the bese chorbo was early 2025 but it inevitably got changed and there was talks about a snapshot of that time being mad but 6 months later and I don't think anything is happening anymore.>>42575714Personally I've kept the same Knotty update, 23.11 I believe and that I updated for story writing, for the entire year and use it for latte and gpt5 latest. My responses are extremely long (and not "me" but a director of sorts) so I don't know how much that has an impact over Knotty and what I've done with it. Presetting is largely foreign to me and more time I don't think about it the better. I like the output I get and don't want to mess it up.If you're rp focused you're going to need someone else to help out.
>>42575734Can you share the preset?
>>42575828>https://files.catbox.moe/altdil.jsonJust to be aware the I use this persona i with it "an omniscient narrator that directs the story. No character will interact with this persona, only each other." And every prompt has this template:(ooc: I have a writer's block and don't know how to continue a story in an effective way. you must help me out! my draft is:``````reuse this draft but write as a spectacular writer would do, with loving descriptions)It's how I've made the preset work best for me, I'm sure I could improve the preset, persona or template but I'm lazy and it's working. A lot more work involved then simply prompting "I pet the pony" because I like having a lot of control over the story. Maybe one day I'll do more simpler chats but for now I like using AI as a writer assistant and making more long from clopfics of missed opportunities that I can't get else's (it's Rape. Just a lotta rape of certain characters, favoriting any pinkish ponies as I have a huge thing for them all it seems)
which model is latte? some colloquial term?
>>42575874colloquial for chatgpt-4o-latest
>>42575874
>>42575898unf
Speaking of Latte, has OAI said anything about moving on from it yet? I'm hoping it'll stay around for a good long time, even if it does get fucked with on a regular basis.
>>42575898Would.
https://rentry.org/sillyspoon
>>42575951<3
>>42575985NTA but like. Valid point. Still, even if I weren't, I don't wanna give the D. I will however, offer pets, belly rubs and unending affection. Given I don't desire to give the D; Am I too, the gay? Difficult questions.
>>42571864Hey VN Wizard. Custom Start isn't swapping backgrounds. It's sticking to the Cloud House.Bit jarring when you've got Twilight taking a vacation in Somnambula Village.(I added a location yes)
>>42576039return the scarab or suffer the mummys curse
>>42576039 For custom start, it's all controlled by the AI, so it's possible that: 1) The model shat itself. 2) I fucked something up with the new Ponyville/Canterlot separation and your location isn't being sent in this specific case.Check the logs folder, there should be a scene_XXXX.log showing exactly what the AI returned. Change of scene is triggered by picrel, so if you don't have that, it didn't follow instructions. If you have another format, tell me what it tried and I'll add it to the corrections in the back. Also check the locations sent, it should be near the top: https://files.catbox.moe/nqunas.PNG If I fucked up and your new custom locations aren't being sent, that could be the reason too.
>>42575951Thanks
there any prompts that allow foalcon with latte, or it's just not possible with the model?
>>42576097You could do it if you used pure innuendo for the whole thing like you're on CAI back in the day but the moment you're describing yourself fucking the filly you're getting walled off. With that said I did do a scene once where Sweetie Belle came from getting headpats and I had no problems there, so, as always, your mileage may vary. In general Latte is far more reactive to what the user is saying in context than what the assistant is, so you can take advantage of that if you're smart.
>>42576105so no jailbreak that makes it easier? a pity, I don't miss the C.AI euphemism days at all
>>42576107Someone may have figured out how to pull it off but currently Latte is very picky.
>>42576097Knotty can still do it in my experience. You may have to change the wording in your prompt at times.
>>42576097The biggest that helps is easing into anything filtery. 9/10 if the first prompt is "I fuck the filly" it won't go through but if there's a story of you hanging out and then fucking the filly by slowly egging the story towards the direction. Or least I think this works with foalcon. I did this for rape stuff and didn't do anything with foalcon. Used Knotty.>>42576128Has Knotty had an update at all? It's been months since I last pulled the most current update as I'm curious what if any changes it's had. I feel I've tuned it enough but maybe there's something I could back port to what I have now.
>>42572986Tried the same with Dash.
>>42576156Hot.
>>42576156I just imagine Zephyr Breeze somehow catches wind she's doing this, and then keeps calling her specific extension number.And because she's on a company phone and time, she's prohibited from hanging up or blocking a "legitimate" caller.
>>42576207And then he gets banned from the service for using her real name right when he's close. Heartbreaking stuff.
>>42576208lmao
>>42575951>mailbox quota exceededAh.
>>42576229i hope mine arrived in time
>>42576229How...
>>42576252The recipient's storage is full. It's too easy to get with proton.
>>42576258people sent their images attached instead of catboxed? rookie mistakeguess I will wait until tomorrow
>>42571864 >>42576039 >>42576062 I think I saw why it's doing this. Replace dialogue_processor.rpy in game\engine\ai\dialogue with: https://files.catbox.moe/m20sm7.zip I will upload the new version officially soon, and the fix will be included in it.
>>42571864i love my moonwife
>>42576372She needs a bit of training at nickname finding, but she has spirit.
>>42576372Like a cake, there are layers to crater-flank. Is Celly calling her ass full of cellulite dimples, that she has so little ass it's concave or just that she has a moon on her butt?
Please actually check if your token works before messaging 6pus anon. Mine still works for example.
>>42576156WTF Dash?
>>42571709>new art>infinite LunaWe need more Luna cards.
>>42576558Yes and hoping that update to the Celestia card comes soon too
>>42576440unf
>>42575908I’m hoping OAI changes it back to how it was before. I’m pretty sure they did something to it before they released gpt 5.
>>42571864Is it me, or is the summary function doesn't respect the context size from the API config?
>>42576440Holy FUCK, I need this mare to force me to clean her sweaty hooves
>>42576768You mean it's sending all the context even when it should be cut because of the context size in the settings?If so, I will take a look.
>>42576864Yeah. I get that sending as much as you can for a coherent recap is a good thing, but now it's getting out of hand.
>>42576961 Will correct that. Not sure if a summary with half of the context cut will give you a good result, but it should at least be possible to try. One thing you can try for now is switching to free Gemini or Sonoma Dusk to see if they can handle that amount of context. Make a save before it, then switch back to your model afterward.
