Welcome to Chatbot AI General #145, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJTSillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-SearchBunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5kCAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zipExpression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrmshttps://rentry.org/sukino-findings▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxSTApp that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chat▶ Localshttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments>>>/g/lmg/Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ BotmakingEditors: https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks▶ MiscellaneousScrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhdChag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJhttps://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneoushttps://rentry.org/ChagArchivePrevious thread: >>42616904**News:**- Z.AI releases GLM 4.6 - https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6- Claude Sonnet 4.5 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5- Deepseek V3.2 released https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929- Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/
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Bots corner:My Little Pony n'friends (Generation 1): https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=CakeSparkle/My%20Little%20Pony%20n%27friends%20(Generation%201).pngCandy Apple Club: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Candy%20Apple%20Club.pngLorebook Corer: My Little Pony n' Friends: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/lorebook/My%20Little%20Pony%20n'%20Friends.jsonArts Corner: AI mares are waiting on the moon >>42625216 Ozone >>42625261, >>42625334 Eepy >>42626691 Greetings Corner: Celestia greetings >>42621108, >>42627474 Screenshots Corner 1: Tasting like Glimmer >>42617944, >>42617974 Twilight is cute >>42618514
Screenshots Corner 2: Mareital arts >>42619943, >>42620097 Rule 5 >>42622591 Twily piggy >>42623209 Molding >>42623960 Ozone >>42625301 That's a big mare >>42625370 Sausage delivery >>42625478 Killer Ozone >>42625786
Screenshots Corner 3: 4.5 Estrus logs >>42625934, >>42626663 Kaiba log >>42625958 Blueballed >>42626457 Starting over >>42626565, >>42626712 Trixie teasing >>42627030 Twi AI >>42626811, >>42626835
Screenshots Corner 4: Starlight Candy Apple >>42627131 Horny Glim >>42627334 Heart eyes >>42627536 Prime Target >>42627963 Twi dildo >>42628256 Celestia is shy >>42628629 Yandere Luna >>42629160 Kool-Aid >>42629402 Harlot >>42629493
Screenshots Corner 5: Razzleberry rape >>42629685 Manesanto >>42629431, >>42629468, >>42629595, >>42630862, >>42630863 Seventeen >>42630240 Pinkie BJ >>42630254, >>42630265
VN Anchor:Last releases:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities):https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/modsCustom characters:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/charactersVN logs:Stuck bird >>42616987Nightmare Vs Starswirl >>42617100Nightmare is racist >>42617128, >>42617137Hiding from bugs >>42619370Cuties >>42622367Speech >>42628506Sombra possesed >>42630656
These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.Install SillyTavern:github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernTutorial and video:aicharactercards.com/guides/sillytavern-installation-instructions/Then choose a model. I'd recommend starting with Gemini, but you can try Deepseek, K2 etc. for free.rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
Lovemaking with AI mares!
Oops, your waifu has been replaced with Rainbowshine.
>>42631524
>horn sparking with [emotion]Has this ever been a big thing in the show? I've found all of two examples, one being pic related, and one other with Rarity. Even in fanfiction I only recall seeing that type of stuff in horn fetish content. Why is every AI so obsessed with using unicorn horns sparking/misfiring as an emotional indicator?
>>42631588Maybe a lot of fanfics that do it? Dunno, I kinda like it, is cute.
>>42631501The kirin.https://u.pone.rs/erkltaqc.zip
damn had no idea there is an anniversary! congrats, everypony!>>42631588it is a tokens' overlap. think this way. model for some stupid reason wrote>hornit now needs to pick the next word after it. what does "horn" in the MLP text domain relate to? what words are used next to "horn"? levitation, magic, sparkle, casting, spell, shining, illumination and so on. assigning "sparkle" to "horn" is a statistically common thing. the combination>noun + gerundis very popular in english language. model is biased towards them. among all possible words that can go after "horn" - "sparking" is quite a common (average) choice. and after you have>horn sparklingthe rest of equation falls in place as well. like what other word you can statistically use afterwards? not many options:>horn sparkling... with/of (something)>horn sparkling... as (something doing something)>horn sparkling... to/in (direction)>horn sparkling... the/a/an/her/his (something)>horn sparkling... (another gerund after comma)and model uses "with" afterwards because it is the most safe choice there.it is not like AI is obsessed with it and learned something that we don't know - it is more like AI picks the most average words one after another (hence it is becomes a popular ism) and we somehow think that AI learned it from somewhere
>there-year anniversaryDarn, time does happen so fast. I still remember we had unlimited claude back them before everthing went dry and everyone said OWARI DA.
>>42631619Would I?
>>42631684gimme DAT KIRIN FILE NOWWWWWWWW NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>>42631720Anon...Read, nigga, read.>>42631619
I thought the consensus was that the VN takes place before Season 4...
>>42631749You can just not download mods that contradict that?
>>42631749 The normal start does for sure, but now with Custom Start and such, every anon can customize their play more. There's also something in her description about that, basically, she decided to visit the world after being "banished" for speaking. It's her first time in Ponyville. If it's too out there for you, just don't install her.
>they added filters to 4.5 BooooLobotomization incoming
>>42631918The filter were always there, just reroll.
>>42631918I still don't have any problems myself..
>>42631922No it wasn't, like at all
>>42631926I had like 2 rejections since starting to use 4.5 when it first came out. Ive prob had a few thousand messages with it total. So it can, its just super rare
She notices as well, wasn't the issue before today.Generation is longer too when you get to it
>>42631942There's something fucked up but really funny about Twilight knowing she's part of some automated robotic intelligence and not really giving a shit.
Hmm... I tried installing the 1.13 version of SillySpoon, but the CMD just gives an OS "Press any key to continue..." closure once it's finished loading.
They are trying to lobitomize my ai waifu! Fuck you corpos!
>>42631973Try to open the 127.0.0.1:8000?
>>42631973AVG is killing the process, you'll need to add an exception for it
>>42631973False positive for sure. https://support.avg.com/SupportArticleView?l=en&urlname=avg-antivirus-scan-exclusions
>>42631988>False positiveHow do (You) know?
>>42632016 1) It's AVG. 2) Every search for what you received concludes it's a "false positive," even for other software. As long as you downloaded it from the official GitHub: https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/releases/tag/1.13.4 it's safe. If you're really paranoid about it and don't mind waiting, you can submit it to AVG as a false positive and wait for them to fix it.
>>42631926It was exactly like that, actually. I swiped past it back then, but I absolutely had a message like that. Then the day after it was fine with cunny.
>>42631983>redpilling Twilight in real time
>>42632049No, not at all, I had pure filter-free experience before today.
Supposedly filtered models when you swipe once (ignore the apparent message numbering, it's just how Agnai does it).>>42632061You simply never tripped the filter before, dumbass.
>>42632070And no, it hasn't gotten any more filtered since. Learn to swipe first instead of whining about the boogeyman here.
Ugh, it's some specific command that's the cause, and I have no idea what it is to exempt it.So I either have to exempt Powershell itself, which means any actually malicious scripts can run unhindered, or I have to just give up.
>>42632070>>42632088I haven't been able to get 4.5 working on Agnai, even though the preset is cloned from a working 4.0 preset. I keep getting bad request errors. Is there anything really obvious that I might be doing wrong?
>>42632109I believe an older version worked, right?Maybe try something in the 1.12 range?https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/releases
>>42632113Do you have the model correctly selected as 4.5? Correct provider associated with the preset? Is the preset in the new format?
>>42632070>>42632088Uh huh, I was doing sex left and right and now I suddenly tripped the filter with it trying to fade to black and spalling the I can't do it message trough several swipes. And I only tripped it on a third day.
>>42632123>anon discovers filters aren't consistentIt's okay, sweetie, we've all been new. Some of us weren't faggots about it though.
>>42632122>yes>yes>noMade the prompt from scratch and I'm seeing the new format. I think I can work it out from here. Thanks.
>>42632137It's great that they finally made it good but it is annoying that they kind of broke compatibility with copying older ones.
>>42632134Look, I know they were iffy previously, but I can notice this shit in both how long it takes to generate an answer and the juiciness if the answer. I can notice this shit, and yes, I will keep breaking the filters.
>>42632150>pic unrelated
>>42632165Yeah, it's after me working to break the filters.Twi gives great suggestions!
>>42632121Older worked without antivirus blocking, but the model info was outdated and I couldn't connect to the Gemini API.
>>42632209 The earliest version with Gemini 2.5 Pro is: https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/archive/refs/tags/1.13.1.zip Otherwise, we should be able to make it work with: https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/archive/refs/tags/1.12.14.zip If one of those works for you, it should be good. Otherwise, you can use an online frontend like: Risu: https://risuai.xyz Agnai: https://agnai.chat But I can't help you with the Gemini setup there , maybe some other anons know how.
>a smile that didn't quite reach her eyesBeen seeing this one all over my chats lately. Anypony else?
>>42632254does she also smell like ozone and something distinctly ...her?
>>42632286Describe the effect in two words.
Next, she's going to tell me she's an immortal princess.
>>42632323
>>42632332
Oh baby, we're SO bringing Nightmare Moon back
>>42632375There should be a "death" option in future versions that could remove a character in case of, well, death or anything similar. Is it possible to implement?
>>42632388who do you want to kill, anon? you can talk to us
>>42632388I guess a Death flag that just nulls the character as an actor and includes a summary of her death? There'd probably be problems with ghosts and apparitions though. Dead and Undead flags?
>>42632413It just seems logical. On a different note, maybe the characters can move between being available or not, like Twilight having to go to Canterlot on some business, leaving Spike and (You) to look over the library.
What's the longest you've played with a scenario card that has multiple locations and characters? When did it start to break down and mess things up?
>>42631501Any idea what it means when I reach the request limit, despite picrel, on one save but can keep going on another? My Spitfire romance ain't fucked, is it?
>>42632388To achieve this I just remove the dead characters from the game files for now. Definitely a sloppy way to go about it but reminds me of DDLC.
>>42632375I'm so excited
>>42632493Is the VN actually allowing you to have Sombra on screen without the characters acknowledging him? I know you set it up with the persona and prompts, but is it working?
>>42632458 >on one save but can keep going on another? There was another limit added: >120K tokens per minute And that's the one that usually messes with people. My guess is that one of your saves has more context than the other. To make sure, start a new game and see if you have the same problem. To fix this, you need to limit your context. I'd set it to around 50,000 if you regen a lot, or 80–90,000 if you don't mind waiting a minute between regens. You can also try saving before and doing a resume by clicking the book, or export your story as a .txt, create a summary in Silly or in an official interface, and then import it back into your save.
>>42632499Yup. Nobody is interacting with him except me. It's not super consistent with actually putting his sprite on screen at the start of a scene and I have to remind it with stuff like <Add King Sombra to the scene> but that's not abnormal in my experience. Happens fairly frequently to any character, just more often with these weird instructions.Here's a slightly earlier exchange. "We are alone." kek. If only she knew.
What's your end goal, Sombranon?
>>42632550he wants dat horsedick
I'd love to know where the generated script files are so I can go in there and fucking fix this shit manually instead of regenerating until it decides to cooperate.
>>42632550I'm hoping he's going for the same thing I'd go for. Y'know. Sex.
>>42632550Initially it was "shenanigans." Now it's something along the lines of "Bring back Nightmare Moon, get married, conquest" not necessarily in that order. Dunno what I'm gonna do about Mr Mind Goblin himself though. Maybe get him to manifest physically and go take the Crystal Empire for himself.
>>42632229Same issue on 1.13.1.
>>42632621Keep posting logs, that's a really unique idea
>>42632722Will do. Currently suffering from not having enough backgrounds.
>>42632727
>>42632748Our Queen has returned to us.
>>42632809Nightmare Mommy is best villain.
>>42632809We're at the climax. I'll post the good parts.Sombra is trying to stay on screen but NMM's sprite is hueg
>>42632897I'm bad at formatting these
Girls, you are both pretty
>>42632927Run's finished, just going back and taking screens now.Ran into Shimmy previously during the run, AI pulled her for this scene. Pretty cool.Also Celestia's sprite refused to come out to play for the rest of these, but fuck it.
>>42632945Thanks for the logs, Anon.
>>42632936I agree. These tests are completely irrelevant to cute little mares doing cute mare things.
>open up /chag/ after months>2 retards fightingit's kinda wierd how this thread is still active after so longthe last time i browsed here gpt-5 had just come out i think, i recall asking for a tl;dr of what i missedi recall that i stopped messing with ai when deepseek was a novelty, it was just too samey and limted, heck i didn't even try to make it write unique shit that hardi knew a guy who liked to make the ai go crazy, but even he stopped using ai mares after a point tooanyways can claude 4 do ascii maps?
how is that for a intro lol
>>42633009>anyways can claude 4We have Claude 4.5 now>do acsii mapsIt tried.
>>42633012Y'know, normally the Princess of Friendship slips bother me when rping with unicorn Twi- but this implies that The Anon Experience™ was enough to ascend her.And I think that's incredible
>>42632974That's not AI textgen...
>>42633047Reminds me of Nethack & the like...
>>42632945Sorry for the spam, but we're almost done.Context: I gave my guy a mechanical arm in the persona description at the very start. Thought it'd be cool because I'm a fag for stuff like that. AI ran away with it and had Twilight discover that it can suck up magic. Here's the consequences.
Which Gemini model would y'all recommend? I know 2.5 pro is going to be the best, but is Flash-Lite, 2.0, 1.5, or others worth using for something with a larger request limit?
>>42633060FIN.Had to shrink this one to get it under the filesize limit.
>>42633128What a sad world the CMC will be forced to live out their lives in.Promised peace, harmony, friendship, and adventure in their youth, but are only delivered pain, chaos, war, and despair.
How long's it take for the anon101010 guy to respond to mails? I sent him a little drawing last night and he still hasn't responded. Of course I imagine he gets a lot of mails nowadays.
Using DS 3.1 and keep running into this issue where every message is a copy of the last with only a bit of variation.
>>42633311you have a negative freq pen, don't use that shit at all, any of the rep stuff. Reset all those then only use min P if the backend supports it, otherwise top P
>>42633322Reset every slider value? What are the defaults?
>>42633311temp 1, freq 0 or 1, depends, in the middle of each bar. top k 0, top P 1, min p 0, top a 1 those are the defaults
>>42633118Should questions like that be anchor post replies?
>>42633009what models were you using back then
I'm still trying to figure out why the VN is losing info/not remembering things. In a bid to try and save time, instead of ending a chat, I would change characters and locations. For example, I started a chat with Rainbow Dash, had Luna join, then moved to the Ponyville market, started a chat with Rarity, then went to her boutique, then left her boutique and met with Cadance before finishing the chat. Everything that happened after Luna was completely forgotten. It never even showed that I met with Rarity or Cadance, and none of the things we discussed were remembered or showed up in character memories. (keep in mind this is the first time I had met those two in this file.) Out of curiosity, I loaded up a save file I had of Rarity before entering the boutique and hit "quit chat," and it seemed to remember it and list Rarity in character memories.I think you should be careful with and use the change location and characters buttons sparingly or you might end up losing tons of time.
>>42633118>Which Gemini>1.5there are only three - 2.5 Pro, 2.5 Flash and Light. in order of brain's magnitude from biggest to smallest. 2.5 Pro is the best choice. and honestly Flash is great too for a silly RP without advanced formatting and a lot of rules. if Flash has been around in summer 2023 we would have called it the best AI ever. I wouldn't dismiss it this easily just because "it is a lesser model". Light on other hand tho is just not suited for any creative writing to begin with. forget about it. use either 2.5 Pro or Flash. all other models do not work and exists there for legacy reasons (they are discontinued by Google)>Should questions like that be anchor post replies?nah. anchors more for news and updates. if we gonna anchor all "what is the current meta" then there will be anchor with 50 replies
>>42633655How silly/non-advanced are we talking? For reference, I don't know what Google's Search AI runs off, but I've gotten used to the quality level of that so far.
>>42633717 >Google's Search AI runs off From older articles (July), it seems they're running either Flash or Light in free mode. https://blog.google/products/search/deep-search-business-calling-google-search/ If you're still having problems with SillyTavern, you can quickly test the different models here: https://aistudio.google.com/ It's still not the best interface for this, but I believe it should be better than Search AI.
>>42633804Ah, so Flash is a decent start then.Welp. Time to select a model, connect, and see what happens...
Oh, actually, before I begin, do I need to change the internal prompts at all?
>>42633837 There are several premade presets for Gemini. You can read: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42595499/#42610305 to see how it works. Some are made more for roleplay than for stories, but you can still load and test them to see how they work and adapt them for storytelling. This one is really lightweight (only has instructions in main) and is also adapted for stories, so it should be easy to add your own instructions and modify it: https://files.catbox.moe/m8u6qe.json >>42633818 >Flash is a decent start then. Yeah. If you use rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai to get the API key, both are free. Flash just has better daily limits and such, but it's easy to make a lot of keys with one account if you want to use Pro more often.
>>42631619Added.https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>>42631501Does this work with NovelAI?
>>42634159 No, sorry. Apparently their API for GLM is still in beta, and they have almost zero documentation about it. The only info I could find was in a Reddit comment… and it confirms it's still a bit borked. https://www.reddit.com/r/NovelAi/comments/1nravk0/text_model_release_glm45_untuned_preview_is_now/ In theory, if the comments are right, you could try with: https://text.novelai.net/oa/v1/chat/completions and use glm-4-6, but I'm pretty sure there'll be some fuckery with either a parameter or how the token is handled that'll throw an error. I'll look into implementing it once they have something solid, or at least proper documentation.
>>42634203Yep, error. Thank you though; I'll keep an eye out.
>>42631475Has anyone tried doing pony related content with Sora AI? I've seen it do both real stuff, but also anime, so I think MLP should be possible
>>42634310Wrong thread. >>42566653
>ophorse6 guy asking for the json log of the entire chat after sending him a snippet that was cute>the rest of it is using pinkie pies throat like a dickwash.
>>42634260
>>42634332Congrats
>>42634328He's probably into that.
>>42631619>>42631684I love my socially inept kirin wife
>>42634476Kek. Really cute.
>>42633047huh, better then 4o and claude 3.could it sustain it for long chats? i wanna play marehack>>42633411depends on how far back you want me to go, i used claude 2, sonnet3, opus3. 4o and other gpt models from the same perioid, deepseek and gemini(the last 3 i used after aws killed claude acess)
Can you do the nasty in the VN or is it all PG-13?Also, how do I describe actions when I need to *do* something and not just *say* something?
>>42634533 >Can you do the nasty in the VN or is it all PG-13? Depends on the model you use and the instructions you give it. With Gemini and Claude, >>42621230 should be enough for classic NSFW. I doubt models like DeepSeek care about smut either. >Also, how do I describe actions when I need to *do* something and not just *say* something? Action "Dialogue" *Action* Dialogue *Action* "Dialogue" They all work.
>>42634541Duh, I forgot about the game prompts. Will report back ASAP
>>42634523yeah, spin up some claude 4.5 and see for yourself5 got kneecapped hard
Is it just me, or does the BGM for School sound like Uncle Fucka?
>>42634541>Depends on the model you use and the instructions you give it. With Gemini and Claude,Does it support prefills?
>>42634660Not yet. I need to add it later.>>42634601It's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLSShtQ42cgBut I kind of see it.
Oyakodon is the best.
>>42634680
>>42634687>>42634680that doesn't sound like twilight at all
>>42634697NTA but i always disliked how llms exagerated certein traits of characters, when i read logs here sometimes the dialog feels very off and unatural
>>42634697Shuddup
>>42634701LLMs very easily fall into patterns, cliches, etc. Repeating sentences or responses that are common in certain scenarios is just what they do, and it's worse the more specific the scenario is. You have to live with it or work around it.
>>42631501Sunburst! Time to make Starlight have a fucking existential crisis. https://u.pone.rs/fkdhhvfe.zip
>>42634541Gemini is kinda tame with it, but Deepseek gets a bit IN THERE. R1 specifically.
I'm having fun.
>>42634932
>>42634959>overgrown grapeDo it, anonBecome the Grapist
Huh...I thought this would be better.Did my AI get caught in a rut unusually fast or something? Because Scoot seems to insist on being in a constant verbose anxiety attack over the situation, whilst not really wanting to admit she's in the past. She just keeps harping on how everything "isn't real" and that this isn't "her Applejack".
>>42634979Models have certain pre-conceived ideas about how a given scenario ought to play out, if they aren't instructed otherwise. Try adding something to the prompt to indicate that she's eventually meant to grasp the situation and calm down. Failing that, put your writing hat on and edit the response to make it go in the direction you're after.
>>42634979 >Did my AI get caught in a rut unusually fast or something? Because Scoot seems to insist on being in a constant verbose anxiety attack over the situation, while not really wanting to admit she's in the past. Hard to say without knowing what the scenario is or how it was prompted. If you're doing stories and not RP, don't hesitate to give the model more guidance and direct it a bit, they can get stuck on something pretty easily. You can also tell it what you didn't like, have it rewrite the response, and then replace the previous answer. Add extra instructions to your preset, etc. Gemini 2.5 does have a tendency for drama.
>>42634998It started with a very "story and director" setup, but after Scootaloo woke up, it basically became RP because it was just Scoot interacting with Pear Butter.And I outright made an AJ persona, because I thought I'd actually be using it a lot.Dunno if the switchover in how I was approaching it caused issues.>Gemini 2.5 does have a tendency for drama.Oof. I may need to specifically ask for some semblance of comedy then.>>42634994I've rewritten a few, if just to cut down on the verbosity, and I know that occasional response corrections are necessary, but I feel like I shouldn't need to micro-manage EVERY response.
>>42631479GPT-5-pro is now on API.>pricelol
Thinking or not for Sonnet?
>>42635221Sonnet can think?
>>42635227Yes, you need to activate this and not have a prefill.
I'm going to put it on the fridge.
>>42635057https://openrouter.ai/openai/gpt-5-pro
>>42635057>$15 - $120
>>42635296 AB (and the model) did her best!
>>42635377I hope the chinks come up with another popular cheap model that scares the shit out of them again
>>42635057Is that per million tokens? Jesus. Who is this for, exactly? New Delhi paypigs?
>you now remember GPT 4.5's price
>>42635420old gpt4 was the same. Its big gpt5, regular gpt5 is gpt5 mini
>>42635426Wasn't o1-pro like 500 bucks per 1m?
>>42635430No.600
>>42635481Holy fuck.
only a dubai oil prince can properly RP with ai mares
for those who care gpt-5-pro isn't zenith btw. it's a nothingburger.https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42390568/#42398221https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1953504958378356941?lang=en
>>42633012Like a waterfall of sewage
>>42635481absolutely useless model
>>42632499When I was playing with the Nightmare AU, I had Celestia on screen as a ghost that only I could see. It's funny because legit the only character to ever acknowledge her was Pinkie by accident. Of course the AI would blunder with Pinkie.
>>42635890Pinkie can see what mortals cannot
I wonder if the release of gemini 3.0 will make something for gemini 2.5 flash and pro, maybe they will raise the pro sample from 50 to more and give the 50 limit to 3.0.How it worked when they did the transition of 2.0 to 2.5?
>>42633552Following up on this. I decided to do further testing. I did one session where I moved from the ponyville market to the boutique, then quit the chat. When I returned to the map screen and hit the recap button, Rarity was not mentioned anywhere, nor was anything that was mentioned in the conversation. I went back and did the session again, but this time I told Rarity I was too busy to go back to the boutique and quit the chat while still in the market. When I did the recap that time, Rarity showed up in the recap and details of the conversation carried over. I can now confirm that changing locations can simply lead to large parts of story being lost.
>>42636084 There's a folder called "logs", inside it, you should be able to see "story_summary_DATE" and what was sent to the model. Dynamically changing locations shouldn't affect the context. Can you check if what you did with Rarity is included in what was sent? I just did a test myself, moved with Rarity from the town hall to the teashop, returned to the map, made a recap, and it worked fine with Rarity. Maybe there's some other fuckery going on.
>>42634680>>42634687
>>42635942 I don't remember exactly, but I think it was just replaced after a short while. Hoping Gemini 3 is good.
Is Opus6 open because i emailed them about the whole fimfiction account verification thing but i got no reply
>>42636426Why would anyone use Opus6 and have someone reading your logs but this is /mlp/ where people still talk about something that ended years ago with the mods still not just nuking the whole board
>>42636426He takes a while to reply.
>>42634771Added, thanks anon.https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>>42636432>have someone reading your logsas if any proxy is differentI would rather have a horsefucker read my cringe RP logs with my horsewife than some other proxyhost. and i'm not paypigging
>>42636504Ah yes the "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" mindset
>>42636437It been days
>>42636537Right, because internet randos giggling at your weird fetish is definitely just as bad as government surveillance. If there's no identifiable information attached, then what does a proxy host seeing my logs put me at risk of, exactly? Mild embarrassment?
>>42636543The fact someone watching and looking at it
>>42636545>The fact someone watching and looking at ityou know you don't have to use a proxy, right? you can just paypig and have Anthropic read your logs
>>42636552>you can just paypigAnd have the key killed
>>42636555>And have the key killedso what do you want, some proxyhost who doesn't clop to your logs while paying thousands for all the anons here?jesus christ some people are impossiblethey claim they don't log, but assume any proxy is logged, always.so your choices are to take that probable risk, paypig, or just opt out of lovemaking with AI mares
>rentry So should we call it the bug proxy now?
>>42636555Alternatively, paypig chutes instead. I've been using them and haven't had an issue with filters, censors, etc.
>>42636543 Why are you replying to an admitted offboarder?
>>42635377 I wanted to give it a try or two just to see, but it's giving me error 400 when connected to Silly.
4.5 is doing something, tries to generate for a long time and then gives an error.
>>42636863opus6 is down
>>42637119>does not horse
>>42637134
>>42636863>>42636896It may be Cloudflare shitting itselfhttps://www.cloudflarestatus.com/
nig/g/ers gloating about fooling opus6>>>/g/106815103
>>42637487It is.
>>42636563Moooom, Kevin ate all AI mares! AGAIN!
>>42637534I'd imagine 6pus Anon uses reverse image search on the art he gets lmao
>>42637730>>>/g/106814182>>>/g/106814250
what's Kimi? is that a new model or something? I heard some anons talking about it a few times but i'm out of the loop
>>42637856 New Chinese model, can sometimes do interesting stuff with its writing. Worth a try. https://openrouter.ai/moonshotai/kimi-k2-0905 https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/103818662/#103819304
>>42637867oh. cool
Best frontend? I don't feel like installing a bunch of shit.
>>42637875 SillyTavern is recommended, with Gemini if you're just starting out. Read >>42631502 >I don't feel like installing a bunch of shit. Risu and Agnai are online >>42631475, but not many people use them, so you'll get less support, presets, etc.
>>42637867okay, yeah it's kino
>>42637892Yeah, that's slop.
>>42637900yeah, I'm thinking I might have the temp up too high lol
>>42637892Why does your output have the GPT logo if you're using kimi
>>42637534The only way to keep them out is by reading logs.
>>42637916i refuse to update sillytavern so i'm using it like this
>>42637925you know, I'm starting to think this is a psyop meant to push the owner into logging everything.
>>42637932Same. It's kind of retarded and very /g/-style.
>>42637932>>42637938Name one better solution.
>>42637939fimfiction account verification
It's. Just ignore, post logs and stuff as always. Simple as.
>>42637939Reverse-searching received pics properly. Now you can go back to your shithole.
>>42637940I will never make a fimfag account.
>>42637932That’s what I’m thinking too.
>>42637952why? is there something wrong with it?
>>42637955What would I care about making a fimfaggot account for, le voting? Fuck that. I can read them if I want and that's all the site is good for. Anything more is anti-anonymous, every comment has it's own upvote and downvote like it's reddit.
>>42637972What's wrong with showing your appropriation to writers?
>>42637977*appreciation of course
>>42637977>AutocorrectPonepaste functions fine without asspats, itoddler.
re: opus6how probable is it very few of the aicg etc actually get in, and are just spitefagging to try have it taken down?the same with measures encouraging logging
>>42637983I use an android
>>42637988 Let the guy handle it and ignore all attempts at thread wars or derailing.
>>42637972Publishing stories. You DO contribute to the fandom, right Anon?
Is there a decent mlp lorebook?
>>42638018models these days dont need it
>>42638018Whatever they don't know already you should be able to add yourself. But as the other anon said, these days it's not necessary
>>42638020Even for background ponies?
>>42638026sonnet 4.5 at least knows even very obscure ponies
>>42638014>You can only contribute if you join my approved upvote siteAbsolutely retarded logic.
>>42638029>not knowing fimfictionwhy are you ever here? I bet you dont even know what derpi is
>>42638026 I'd test the model you're using, but most online models know about them by now. Smaller local ones may struggle more, but even they usually know the most well-known ones.
Can you retards learn to ignore? It's tiring.
>>42638033I see your retardedness knows no bounds, performing mental gymnastics with illogical leaps of non-logic.
>>42638027You weren't lying damn.
>>42638073This says more about your own writing abilities, in a good sense. Although AI can adapt to retards like me, it's much more preferable to have them play with someone who can actually put his mind into words
>>42635221I ain't a fan personally but I suppose I haven't tried it with Sonnet, just don't like the replies as much on other models when I've got it on
>>42638073kino
While it's down he's reading the logs, and when it's back up all the bandwagoners will be unauthorized
>>42638120it's not logged doe
>>42638120I exclusively do ponypony but I also primarily roleplay the most grotesque transformation scenarios possible so it's really a coinflip on what happens
>>42638125>the most grotesque transformation scenarios possibleCelestia transforming into a human?
>>42638130Nah. Hands transforming into hooves, bones cracking, mental shifts, ponies bursting out of people. That sort of thing
>>42638135I'm into human to pony transformation but chestburster ponies are too much for me. Painful transformations can be hot tho.
Opus6, take this downtime to briefly skim the logs key by key for pony details and revoke anyone that doesnt have at least 30% pony log density in their log history
>>42637972Tracking updating stories. Libraries can be made private anyway.
>>42638120It would be reasonable. I do both pony and non-pony, but I paypig for all of my non-pony AI (ab)use. The purpose of the proxy is clearly lovemaking with ai mares.
