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Welcome to Chatbot AI General #156, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.

▶ MLP Bots
https://mlpchag.neocities.org
Spreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJT
SillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-Search or https://github.com/mia13165/SillyTavern-BotBrowser
Bunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5k
CAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zip
Expression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions
!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U

▶ How do I start?
1) Select a Frontend
2) Select an AI model
3) Select Jailbreak
4) Select bots
5) Lovemaking with AI mares!

Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,
▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀

Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings

▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
On Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxST
App that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB

▶ More frontends:
Risu: https://risuai.xyz
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

▶ Locals
https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
>>>/g/lmg/
Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main

▶ Jailbreaks
MLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxe
More JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
Hypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb

▶ Botmaking
Editors: https://agnai.chat/editor
Guides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
Advanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks

▶ Miscellaneous
Scrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhd
Chag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJ
https://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneous
https://rentry.org/ChagArchive

Previous thread: >>42834793

**News:**
- Deepseek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2
- Anthropic releases Opus 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5
- Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3/#gemini-3
- xAI releases Grok 4.1 https://x.ai/news/grok-4-1
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Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.
Previous >>42834796
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Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
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Bots corner:

>Aryanne Hoofler
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anon%20and%20Anon%20accessories/Aryanne%20Hoofler.png
>The Equestrian Caliphate
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/The%20Equestrian%20Caliphate.png
>Baronial Command
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Concordia/Baronial%20Command.png
>Starless Sky (Update)
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/Starless%20Sky.png

Screenshots corner:

Lewd Fluttershy >>42836553
Twilight Velvet Death >>42838063, >>42838206, >>42838215
The bats will remember that >>42838304
Gemini gives toes >>42838795, >>42838820
Portrait >>42841314
NMM >>42842918
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Screenshots corner 2:

Ponk >>42843158
Deepseek special with Jingles >>42843619, >>42843797
Deepseek special with Human tech support >>42843704
New Deepseek thinking >>42843630
Scorned Kaijumare >>42844935
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VN Anchor:

Last releases:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/

Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods

Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

VN logs:

Custom Changeling Start >>42836492, >>42836545
Quills and Sofas >>42836566
Mayor Mare >>42836573, >>42839789
Omega-level threat >>42836602
Be kinder >>42837359
I watch it for the theory >>42838178
Rarity is savage >>42840064
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VN logs 2:

Pegasus magic >>42841787
Breaking Twilight >>42842587
Harshwhinny >>42841073
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These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.

Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Then choose a model. I'd recommend starting with Gemini, but you can try Deepseek, K2 etc. for free.

rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
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First highlight of the Event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Rosey%20Ring.png
You can see all the discussions about the card here:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42771628/#42773604

Second highlight of the Event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=anonistrator/The%20Headless%20Horse.png
You can see a recap of the discussions here:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42786023/#42787280

Third highlight of the Event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Nightmare%20Jack.png
You can see all linked discussions here: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42786023/#42787284

Fourth highlight of the Event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/THINGPONE%20in%20EQUESTRIA.png
Anchor here: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42786023/#42793795

Fifth highlight of the Event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=littlewitcher/Countess%20Rarity.png
Anchor here: >>42810591

Sixth highlight of the Event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Snowfilly/No,%20I%27m%20Not%20A%20Pony.png
Anchor here: >>42811886

Seventh highlight of the event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/ZecoraStories.png
Anchor here: >>42825187

Eighth highlight of the event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Orchid.png
Anchor here: >>42834821
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Lovemaking with AI mares!
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>>42845197
Based!
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something uniquely her
and ozone
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>>42844555
Updated, thanks anon.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/Starless%20Sky.png
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>>42845200
Those isms are hitting me like a physical blow
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He does WHAT
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>>42845226
That's quite the based occupation.
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>>42845174
https://rout.my/
500k tokens daily free
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>>42845215
You VILL accept ze ozone unt you VILL make ze ai mare happy
Been messing with the card def and think I've toned back the death narration, ozone is at least very apt for Orchid
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Side notes: Gemini is apparently too retardedly stubborn to understand that she can hug with hooves. I don't know what it is, but it would never
give anything than full facial after mentioning she doesnt have arms, even after mentioning her hoof had blocked the door.
> Instead of arms, she used the only tactile tool she had for this: her face and neck.
Meanwhile claude understood that she's not just a giant snake.
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>>42845256
>than full facial
I see what you mean but kek. Gemini 3 is weird like that, where it can be both smart on some points but totally retarded on others. Even worse than 2.5 in some cases.
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>>42845262
Thinking about it, maybe gemini got stuck in "shes blocking the door with her hooves" so she cant ever move them', so face must be the only option!. Yeah? but Pretty retarded none the less, but I can see the ai logic bleeding straight through Orchid, it's almost like they have the same IQ. Praise for being so good human-sama give Gemi- I mean orchid all the treats and stay with her
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repostan >>42845041
at least for free deepseek 3.2
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>>42845200
>logit something: -50
>logit uniquely: -99
>logit ozone: -100
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>>42845186
Ninth highlight of the event with TimberJack:

https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/TimberJack.png

Try her out; post logs if you've already played with her; give the card a look and say what you think of it, or talk about the process of making her if you're the botmaker. Give tips or opinions if you're another botmaker.
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>>42845256
G3 is so completely unusable
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>>42845182
https://files.catbox.moe/kkcswb.zip
Rover for the visual novel. It comes with CustomLocations, the diamond dogs' cave with a bgm and the field where Rarity was searching for gems without music.
He doesn't have a schedule since I don't think you want to see him in Ponyville. So he will only appear with the dynamic system. He's mostly here so you can relive A Dog and Pony Show, larp like Spike as Rarity's knight, or just do funny stuff like having diamond dogs as henchmen for a villain run.
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>>42845174
https://rentry.org/sillyspoon

Old mail is dead, got a new one. Updated the token requirements too. Also learning more about scraping so if everything goes according to plan I'll have a 2nd proxy link around Christmas. Non-scuffed this time. Current link will stay up alongside it
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>>42845627
Based.
Godspeed anon.
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>>42845627
Hopefully I can get in this time.
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>>42845627
Thanks a lot anon!
Any news if opus 4.5 will be in the current or new proxy?
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>>42845627
As always, your work is greatly appreciated
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>>42845663
The source I'm using for the current proxy hasn't added Opus 4.5 yet. They most likely won't. The new proxy should have it if things go well, but it's still too early to tell. Sorry if that's disappointing anon.
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>>42845704
I understand! I still really appreciate the proxy for us mare lovers.
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>>42845704
Thank you for your work anon!
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Lots of pinkies on the thread so far. I will take it as a queue to start a story with her. Any scenarios you would recommend?
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>>42845757
Call her out on being a hidden demigoddess and romance her immediately.
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>>42845757
Have you considered trying to start a story based on Pinkie from Pony.mov?
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>>42845757
Classic, but Pinkie trying to set you up with one of her crazy sisters can be fun.
Breaking a Pinkie Promise too, though you need to adjust your preset so she doesn't forgive too easily.
If you're feeling blue and just want to talk, models can sometimes be great with her as well.
Old log.
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>>42845625
Sounds like fun, thanks.
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>>42845757
Rambling sexo
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>>42845782
Never heard of it
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>>42845790
Don't look it up, pure shock value farming.
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>>42845790
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PONY.MOV
>Ashleigh Ball, the official voice actor for Rainbow Dash and Applejack in the original series, described the PONY.MOV videos as "really twisted and pretty cool" during a May 2012 interview with Everfree Radio.[6][7]
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>>42845794
Did you just imply that a staple of our fandom is slop?
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>>42845174
Mistral 3
https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-3
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>>42845819
Anything that deviates do heavily from Canon is by definition slop
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>>42845627
How can you prove you've been here?
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>>42845896
>by definition
No, it's really not.
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>>42845625
Added, thanks anon.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
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>>42845503
I made this card. Someone requested a TimberJack bot and it was still during the event, so I did a quick one.
Not much to say about it. It's pretty classic and is mainly a greeting with some ideas in the defs. Wanted to do a living in the wild with timberwolves scenario, so here it is.
Could probably update it if I get new ideas. Didn't know if I should add mechanics with, for instance, tracking points that would determine the status and advancement of her transformations, but I also believe things like that always add rigidity to the outputs, so dunno.
Here's a long log.
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>>42845995
Your UI reminds me of Disco Elysium. Has anyone ever told you that?
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>>42846045
>Has anyone ever told you that?
Made it recently, so nope. You're the first.
https://files.catbox.moe/9d8qdg.json
I guess it's an occasion to link the Disco Elysium skills lorebook for anons that don't already know about it.
https://www.characterhub.org/lorebooks/TURBO_DEGEN_WARRIOR/disco-elysium-skills-75ffa3c2
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>>42846072
>you also need to add [900 fucking tokens] to the end of your jailbreak
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got that shitty prompt down to 400 tokens
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I couldn't resist.
Opus knows.
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got it down to 200 by splitting it, and having the skills be a separate post-injection prompt that only brings in 6 skills at random by rolling
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>>42846163
900 to 200 is pretty good compression, but is it really necessary?
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>>42846180
I mean, it was done by removing the duplicate skill explanations that are already in the lorebook, and tightening up the explanation of the disco elysium system because the model doesn't need most of that rambling
by moving the disco system to the system prompt and the skill list to the user prompt you can have the lorebook handle adding and removing skills from context
I bloated it a bit again thought by randomly generating MAX PASS for each skill so it a bit more dynamic
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>>42846149
Kek
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>>42846149
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>>42846191
disco elysium would really benefit from an agentic kind of system. Each skill with its own prompt, some narrator/orchestrator to manage the flow...
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>>42845627
I never knew that and didn't check the email I ever used for that, can I still get one if I respond to it?
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>>42846212
the fact that those faggots at ST haven't finished the macro rework yet is stupid
you can't have nested randoms, and I can't find a way to have pick return more than one item in {{pick::2::LOGIC,DRAMA}} format
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umm
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>>42846225
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>>42846223
I looked at the scripting and macro system, it's the worst I've ever seen.
They could've embedded tlk or some scheme and it would be 5 million times more usable and efficient. But not, they wen't the most braindead route and kept at it like a retard trying to punch trough a wall with his head.
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>>42846235
>use JS? no, we'll invent our own worse programming language
>use an existing templating solution? no, we'll invent our own worse templates
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I guess they didn't make the email yet
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>>42846227
Kek. I'm sorry for you, Glimmerbro.
Sillyspoon Anon is legit so I suppose the new adress got a problem too. A new one should be here soon.
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>>42846272
Well i did actually get a response from them, but they told me catbox wasn't working for them and that they needed me to use pone.rus or whatever and i did that and now i see this.
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>can't have multiple ANs at different depths
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>>42846227
nice hashchange faggot
>>>/trash/
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>>42845819
It went too far away from the spirit of mare, so yes it is slop. Always was.
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>have to setup a QR that auto triggers a lorebook that sets pass or fail, because these retards have no comparison macro
how
why
why is something this simple not existing
how the fuck does the #if block in the context thingy work if it doesn't get parsed
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>>42845503
She can play the game in that state.
Impressive.
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Who's to blame that ponies don't act like their actual selves? The fanfics the AI were trained on?
I'm mostly talking about Twilight and Pinkie, seeing how these two are the easiest to flanderize
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>>42846362
Where have you ever seen twilight written so badly?
From experience, AIs can't do any character right, it's all uncanny valley.
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>>42846362
Nah. Blame it on the models themselves not being made for RP or for storytelling first and going for safe and common denominator, and them not being that "smart" or "subtle" to start with.
Twilight being like this is notably worse on recent models. Gemini 2.5 Pro must be the worst for that.
I still can have good results with Twilight on shit like Claude with a bit of efforts in the input etc.
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seems like the email dosen't work, can I still respond to the life raft emails? I had hasn't checked that and didn't know
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>>42846362
>Who's to blame that ponies don't act like their actual selves?
First and foremost the fault lies on the card writers being too lazy to nail the personality leaving it to the models
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so they just fucking deleted my email for no reason... fuck i don't want to go back to proton
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>>42846376
GMX.com?
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>>42846375
Perhaps you can show us an example or two of a well-written card?
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>>42846376
Fucking bitches.
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>WI not scanning from prompt
>WI scanning from AN injects totally random entries
I just wanted some disco skills, why are nocoders and their crappy regex scanning making this so impossible
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>>42836789
>>42839703
Pinkamena.
Modify character.json depending on what version of her you want.
https://u.pone.rs/mxleiorb.zip
It's a full character but you can take her vectors, add
>pinkamena_
to the start of their names and put them in Pinkie's folder if you prefer. She should be able to "transform" then.
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>>42846362
uncanny simulation in mikupad
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>found my old phone
>still has sillytavern on it
Now i can finally send Sillyspoon anon my fart logs.
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>>42846388
...you wish to see a well written card?—just watch the master at work!
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ok this is the optimal version, it picks one skill from each category for a swipe and rolls pass or fail, and injects what the fuck those specific skills do on the context
I also wrote a regex to hide the thoughts from the AI, to not keep old skills in the lorebook
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>>42846530
Do not listen to this AMATEUR, I will demonstrate what distinguishes a PROFESSIONAL myself.
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thats it guys im making a card about (YOU)
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>>42846588
Make sure you get the 1000 token description of my penis!
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>>42846588
>No I'm prompting you, and you seem like the ugliest son of a bitch I've ever heard
>You sound like some manifestation of some loser's inner fantasies
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>>42846419
Added, thanks anon.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
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>>42845171
I noticed the bot library was woefully barren of male zebras for group chats, so I made one. Intended for use with the STRIPED lorebook.
https://chub.ai/characters/teased2please/kovu-125adfbcd270
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>>42846348
Thanks for the kaiba log.
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>>42846630
No thanks
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>>42846588
>A card about me
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>>42846612
I wonder if claude could get that kind of humor right
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>>42846630
I prefer your collared cards but I'm sure there is some zebra enjoyer that will thank ya.
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the disco checks are really cool, although it sometimes passes a failed skill and rolling d9 is way too random without stats
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>>42846630
>MAREDfags this is your mindset
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>>42846643
Yes my collared cards are infinitely more patrician in taste, I will admit
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What would be the best platform to collaborate on VN assets like vectors and backgrounds?
Google Drive?
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>>42846656
Yeah
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>>42846651
What is collared?
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>>42846678
Human supremacy fetish with anthros, or sometimes other non-humans. Like ponies, I suppose. They have threads over on trash.
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>>42846687
I thought it was about pony bdsm and the snap my collar tag
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>>42846687
>They have threads over on trash.
And I thought my home board was bad!
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>>42846692
Its not a literal name do you think STRIPED is about painting mares to look like crosswalks?
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>>42846703
no idea
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>>42846692
More about slapping the collar ON than snapping it
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>>42846703
This is a post that would exist on a version of 4chan in equestria and not be out of place
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>>42846376
I'm not trying to scare you nor anything like that... but you should refrain from using Tutanota. It's unironically a honeypot.
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>>42846720
I can't find any info about this online. What are you getting at?
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>>42846726
I can't recall the exact details but they were involved in a court case where they straight up admitted their service existed just to catch people of interest. Pretty sure it was even linked in the archive a while ago.
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>>42846720
>>42846743
Those damn shadow agencies harvesting our AI mare lovemaking logs with their euro mail ponypot, keeping the best ones all for themselves..
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>>42845995
What model did you use?
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>>42840456 (Original Issue)

Pretty sure I might be getting scammed again.

TLDR: I commissioned 5 separate "artists" at the same time to make Fausticorn vectors. One of them made some good quality shit. Two others them gave me AI art. One other is suspicious to me, but I'm giving them time. And this last one just sent me an update.

The fucking cutie mark looks like the other AI slop cutie marks. Lets see what the finished product looks like when it gets here.... I'm sure I'm just waiting for him to figure out his prompt...

kms. I'll just charge back if anything.
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>>42846797
How much per artist did they charge you? I can tell you if you got ripped off
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I live a simple life. I open up the VN after I've gotten thoroughly drunk, I start a new save on the default opening, and I lose myself completely in the simple and innocent fantasy of Twilight Sparkle taking care of me after I bumped my head in the Everfree Forest. It never gets old.
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>>42846743
>>42846764
What exactly is illegal about AI roleplay with horses? It's sad and pathetic maybe even cringeworthy at most but not illegal plus proxies don't exist anymore and everyone paypigs one way or another
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>>42846803
This is me but with monster hunter Applejack saving me from a monster in the Everfree.
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>>42846800
>

15-20 per.

Getting my money back for the two ai slops. Prepping to get it back for this one soon if necessary.
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>>42846828
That's fine but don't you think you should have commissioned someone from /mlp/ first?
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>>42846828
American_Onion on Xitter has decent prices and i know he's legit, if you still want to get a comm for your card.
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>>42846868

I did a stupid and commissioned from r/mylittlepony.

I am retarded, I know.
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>>42846877
If it makes you feel any better, going by the example of the show, ponies also tend to learn the hard way.
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>>42846797
Why the fuck are you paying 5 dollars to scam artists rather than just paying an established good artist once and actually getting something decent in return?
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>>42845174
Leddit believes they have a solution for gemini.
The model is smart, but the order you feed it info matters more than any other model.

>Gemini 3 indicated putting all the instructions under the "documents" would be best, so I think myself and a lot of people took that to mean the lorebook, etc.
>It was working fine until I tested out one of my other cards and couldn't figure out why the character was giving in so easily, despite my preset instructions.
>Another character did not give in so easily, but that was because it was more clearly defined in his lorebook.

The fix - from top to bottom.
>Chat history at the top. I get no coherency issues this way. If you use cache prompting, this method won't be best for you.
>Bulk of preset, mostly the "non-writing style" stuff.
>Writing Style instructions part of the preset
>Lorebook, scenario, character desc, etc.
>Constraints (mine is in-chat depth of 0, system role)
>Gemini Prefill (set to relative in mine, system role)

>tl;dr for roleplay via Silly Tavern, your chat history, lorebook, etc aren't the "docs" section per the Gemini handbook; they are ALL pretty much treated as "instructions" like the prompts.
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>>42845182
The CE_map_screen.rpy in the Manehattan mod's engine/location is to accomodate for the mod replacing the Crystal Empire mod, right?
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>>42846978

yep
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>>42846978

Well its if you have the Crystal Empire Mod installed already.

Though I recommend using the World Map mod instead if you're gonna use all three anyway.
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>>42846962
That's so retarded
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Is there a card like this?
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>>42845627
Those who are in the current proxy can access the new one? Should we send proof that we are in?
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I like "audible pops".
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>>42839152
If you're still here Anon, that cross-thread post about Pinkie was made by me! I literally came here to talk about that because I'm working on one right now. There are none, and as a Ponkfag I was recommended the cards earlier on, but I found that all of them, while cute, didn't capture what I truly loved about her - her inner calmness, deep empathy for those around her, and life's mission to bring happiness to the world she loves so much.

What a funny coincidence it is, because I was gonna ask people here about that. I'm currently making one that's about like, 400 tokens in, and I'm worried it's a little too big and grand but Pinkie is also a character with a ton of nuance and I want to actually capture it all. Do you guys think it's okay to write more flavorfully instead of just listing out character traits? This is the first Ponka card I've seen that actually goes into her childhood and how it affected her, and also details important character development and what her motivations are. I can post an example of what I have here in a bit; I just really wanted to do this for this character. Any thoughts to share while I plug away at things?
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>>42847420
400 tokens isn't that big at all, even less so if you truly believe they have importance and influence the outputs. Don't worry.
>Do you guys think it's okay to write more flavorfully instead of just listing out character traits?
I believe most anons prefer that actually.
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>>42847420
What >>42847443 said.
If you see it's giving you results or changing the style of the outputs in a good way, then go for it.
Then play with the card and see what aspects are kept and what things you don't like, and try to curb them in the def too if possible.
Eager to see the card.
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>>42847443
>>42847497
Yeah it's at 600 tokens about now haha, keeps climbing. My hopes are that by giving it a really heartfelt retelling of Ponk's story it'll help the Ponk card be more thoughtful and heartfelt as well and carry that energy. Once it's done I'm gonna post it here and I'd absolutely love the feedback so I can tweak it more if need be. I wanna do her justice.
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>>42847501
I found best results being around ~800 tokens personally, but also some really well done cards that go beyond 1000, so do not worry.

My main tip is to put things like "actually has the inner peace" you mentioned in hidden defs just so she doesn't speak out loud in chat "actually I have inner peace!".
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>>42847510
Yeah it's at around 800 at the moment and I'm wrapping things up. Can easily see it resting at 1.1k at the end. On a fucking roll tonight and this is from inspiration that hit me a few days ago that I've still been holding onto since, haha.

And yeah for sure. I have a way I'm going to phrase it that's gentle and heartfelt towards the end, and hopefully it rings true to other Pinkie fans who get what makes her her.
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>>42847420
Holy shit, no kidding huh? I'm the Anon who made that post and yeah I'm a total autist for maximum complexity in cards to simulate all that with the highest degree of fidelity. My advice: Yes, absolutely, you should write flavorfully. The higher quality of the input, the better the output and if you write what you mean you will get it, whereas writing generic traits or attributes is a total crapshoot. English has so many synonyms and is overall built for poetry, take advantage of the complete control over nuance it gives you to build the card of your dreams. I will be watching with great interest.
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>>42847510
>>42847518
also >>42839152 (I hope you in specific like my card even tho I'm still working on it)
fucking 1.6k tokens and still no greeting yet haha
I can whip up a really quick set of greetings at some point, but I also usually don't use 'em and just go in without one and describe the kind of scene I want out of the character.

Truth be told I'm a little tired haha, been chipping away at this for hours so I'll likely get back to this later. Some of this could be trimmed down I'm sure but the responses I've gotten have had a really perfect mix of playfulness and thoughtfulness; trying to aim for that Season 1/2 era Pinkie. Was honestly kinda flabbergasted we didn't have a Ponk card that aimed for that, so all of this effort is partially a love letter to my fellow Ponkbros.

Here's the link btw! (WIP so don't go uploading it to the neocities just yet haha)
https://files.catbox.moe/p78ass.png

Anyways, there's a lot so if you wanna read it maybe copypaste it into notepad or something. She's my favorite and has been for well over a decade, so I tried to do her justice. I tried to fill in some gaps in her story in ways that were really respectful to her overall mythos and made sense; I felt maybe Pinkie could've felt outcast and alien in her own family as a filly, due to how different she was, being bright pink and also caring about the happy little things in life instead of just labor. I also thought that that experience could serve to as to why she's so insecure and clingy in earlier seasons, thinking that maybe she was too much for her new friends in Ponyville, too. I still incorporated Lauren Faust's intentions (as she said in an AMA ages ago) about how Pinkie loves her family but just had more to be than a rock farmer.

There's a ton of stuff about her backstory in it, but I hope it adds thoughtful nuance to her responses. I'm likely gonna take another look at this tomorrow, but what I'm getting really feels like the classic actually smart Ponk I knew and loved and I'm sure the extra lore will go miles and miles in more heartfelt scenes. I still feel maybe some things could be trimmed but I'll have to think about it.

Any thoughts? I'm likely gonna lay down soon but any criticisms left here I'll take into consideration later. I still have work to do on the card afterall, but I got the bulk of it done. Will continue working away on this and thanks for your time helping me with this.
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>>42847682
Will take a look at it for sure.
Any ideas you have for greetings or scenarios? I'm the reverse where I like to write greetings but not the description. So I can try to make something and upload them here to see if you like them.
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>>42847676
Oh awesome! Yeah, weird coincidence that I even got your (you) pop up for a cross-thread post when opening /chag/ specifically just to try my hand at making a deeper Pinkie. You posted right as I was done with my big post but it makes me happy to see you back around in time for me to share.

The one Ponk we have that's commonly used is all focused on her silliness but lacks her depth. It's why I wasn't able to connect with her properly when I first tried her. Logic is if I describe why she's so happy then we'll get a Pinkie that's really smart and thoughtful about being happy (and thus glorious old Ponk). No shade to the current Ponk card, it's a classic and performs perfectly at just being a Pinkie behaving as expected if you want her in a story real quick; I just wanted something more true to her best depictions in the show and I hope I am at least getting something like that.

Also I threw a couple nods to the Smile Song in her card.

>>42847691
I'll likely get to it later! I really appreciate the offer though. I have a few ideas in mind that I could flesh out over the next while. If you have any ideas though, feel free to post them in the thread; I'd absolutely appreciate some inspiration.
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>>42846630
>/chag/ Ai thread
>look for Ai Art
>only meatslop
>Ai art made by Grok

You disgust me.
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>>42847723
>looking for AI art in the textgen thread when an AI art thread exists
You might be retarded.
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Famous baiteater
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>>42847727
>looking for AI art
>retarded
many such cases. lowres pixels are nothing compared to an immersive endless story
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>>42846770
Sonnet 4.5
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>>42846630
Added to the website.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=teased2please/Kovu.png
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>>42845182
Created the Google Drive for collaboration on the VN project. We'll see how it goes.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QjmLKy71FDa9O-USeD_Z1Fu312RaodAE?usp=sharing
For now I only worked on the vectors but the locations will soon follow.
For the vectors there are two folders: one that groups the characters that already exist in the VN (Core or Custom ones) and one for placing vectors for characters we don't already have.
The one for existing characters has a folder by name. Inside there is:
>CurrentVectors
With the vectors we already have. Folder is locked.
>ToAdd
Folder is open and this is where you can place vectors you want to add for these characters.
For new characters, just create a folder with their name in
>NewCharacters
and place your vectors inside.
This way, we can add vectors to already existing characters (we have 110) that have few and anons can participate without having to create schedule.json or character.json files or making a full set of vectors.
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so what's the new fucking email then?
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>>42848004
Just wait.
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>>42848006
I already waited for my adhd procrastination to wear out so i could draw something resembling a cartoon equine damn it
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>>42848010
Show it to us
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Are we doing a card secret santa event this year? It's not fair that aicg holds one and we don't
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>>42847985
that's okay you didn't have to do that
you really didn't
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>>42848018
somebody gonna steal my submission if i do that
i'm from /x/ the paranoia can't be helped
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>>42848023
>Are we doing a card secret santa event this year? It's not fair that aicg holds one and we don't
How does it work? It sounds fun!
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>>42848033
It functions identically to the secret santa event that happens on this board: one person manages the event lets people sign up submitting a short form through email or google forms that they fill out listing what they would like to receive and their botmaking name (usually it will require that you have made one public bot before that you can link as proof that you won't grinch). Then after a deadline to signup, the entries are all manually matched to assign the gifters to make a card for the person they would be best be capable of fulfilling the wishlist/card request of. There will be a deadline for botmakers to finish their cards and send it in to the person running the event by. Once the deadline arrives, the person managing the event will publicly unveil all the completed cards at the same time. If a person doesn't want to be associated with their card, they can remain anonymous, but the card must be made public.

https://rentry.org/botmakersecretsanta
https://rentry.org/botmakersecretsanta2
https://rentry.org/botmakersecretsanta3
https://rentry.org/halloweenexchange2024
https://rentry.org/halloweenexchange2025
https://rentry.org/secretvalentines2025
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>>42848046
Oooooo very interesting! I'd sign up if we did this!
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>>42848023
>>42848046
The highlights for the previous events are soon to be finished. Once it's done, we can do polls to see what the next event should be.
Secret Santa could be an option for this December.
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>>42848046
Do I have to both ask for a gift and offer one? Cause I don't know what I'd ask from other makers but I'd gladly write cards for others if they want.
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>>42848058
We should do it
Especially if aicg has somehow managed to hold an event three years in a row while being the most dysfunctional general
Our title of being the comfiest AI general with the best community needs to be defended
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>>42848063
I participated in a previous year's event so I can answer this. Yeah so you write up something listing what you would like to receive (either as vague and broad or as highly specific as you'd like down to what kind of image you want the bot to have). There really is no pressure with this kind of thing, often the more broad your card wishlist/request is the more of a surprise it will be and the more interesting your gift will be as a result.
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>>42848063
I’m on the opposite side. I would like to request a card but I have never done one before.
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>>42848079
Why not make a practice card real quick right now too gain some confidence for the event?
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>>42848046
I would deifnelty participate in this!
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>>42848085
You know what? Sure why not. This event might be the push I needed. Any pointers or rentry on how to make a card?
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>>42848212
Check the cards you like and try to study them to start with.
Avoid weird formats; prose always works generally. Lists can work too but don't use shit like W++.
Avoid generating greetings or making them too AI-identifiable with isms or sentence structure. The more human you can the better.
Don't act or talk for {{user}} in the greetings. Some greetings don't mention {{user}} at all so everypov can be used (first, second or third person), but if it's too much for your first card or necessary for your scenario to work, don't bother too much.
Test to see approximately what works, doesn't, or is useless in your def.
I don't think there is a good up-to-date guide.
rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks is good but more for tricks that aren't that well known. Still interesting and gives good examples of bots.
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>>42848212
There are no hard rules, really.
Don't do any gimmicky stuff with the syntax like you might see in some older cards, just write straight prose.
It's a good idea to write in a way that you want the AI to mimic. If you want your card to lean more comedic and silly, don't write it all dry and clinical in the definitions, either.
Avoid speaking/acting for {{user}} and assuming things about them as much as possible in your greetings.
Don't use the Scenario field.
Avoid using Example Messages unless you're writing an OC and you really, really want to make sure the AI captures the exact way they speak. Most models overuse the examples.
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>>42848225
>Don't use the scenario
Why?
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>>42848250
because everyone, like me, will have that overwritten or ignored or if they dont will be annoyed why the card insists on doing something they cant see on first glance
even now I randomly go through old cards only to realize they have hundreds of tokens in custom main prompts or jailbreaks that never got injected
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>>42848250
NTA but the scenario field is a remnant of how bots were made in CAI.
There was a scenario field there, and you could sort of try to use it since the memory was bad to sort of try to keep the context going on, but even then it wasn't that special.
Nowadays it's useless because:
1) It does nothing that couldn't be in the description or the greetings. Greetings are where you make the scenarios/settings.
2) {{user}} will make their own scenarios or move on from what you defined at first, so having a permanent field that tries to force the same specific scenario even 120 messages in is bad.
3) Chances are that you will create several greetings with each their own ideas, scenarios. It's idiotic in this case to try to fit the same scenario field for each of them.
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>>42848225
>>42848223
Just want to comment on this
I personally *do* like describing {{user}} because I make cards with a specific scenario in mind
And I favor using example messages as a space for extra, supplementary information to the description (SillyTavern will handle example messages in such a way where they are pushed out from context by your chat history if it approaches your context limit) with the idea that your early messages will replicate the info from the examples and so even when it gets pushed out the info won't be redundantly kept in the card twice and it'll can still be pulled from down the line
It's definitely a personal preference, plus people can always remove example messages if they like
So don't be afraid to go against a 'rule'
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>>42848264
A general scenario is good however, like if you want to start from a random meeting and have a series of events happen over multiple days. The model can structure things better if it already knows what it should write.
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>>42848271
>series of events happening over multiple days
I've never seen a card do that, can you show me?
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As a brainlet it would make me happy if people could post their random card ideas to the thread more often to stimulate my own creativity
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>>42848284
>As a brainlet it would make me happy if people could post their random card ideas to the thread more often to stimulate my own creativity
my in-progress cards:
shadows of harmony (shadowrun)
mare station 13 (space station 13)
all guardsmares party (warhammer 40k)
pax chrysalia (equestria at war)
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>>42848223
>>42848225
>>42848265

Thank you anons. I appreciate the insight, actually looking forward to try. I have two ideas, one for a royal guard mare and the other for a maid in Canterlot castle. Will see how that goes.
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>>42848291
Have you been playing on the /mlp/ SS13 server that was set up recently?
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>>42848297
>Have you been playing on the /mlp/ SS13 server that was set up recently?
I didn't know it existed, these days i'm too focused on AI mares to keep track of most other threads
thanks, ill check it out
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>>42848273
It works if you have something like a date at the start of each response so the model can have a sense of timeline
then in the scenario you write the vague event outlines so you can react within the even confines but the plot beats still happen:
<scenario>
03 December - X and Y meet for the first time at library while Y is looking for a scroll. X is new in town. Y thinks X is an irritating smartass.
05 December - X and Y have to work together for the end of year festival, since the previous guy making the decorations mysteriously fell down the stairs and X's cutie mark is crafting related.
06 December - X and Y start working, Y is unwillingly impressed by X's skill, still thinks he's an ass.
10 December - Things are looking to be finished on track, but when X and Y go on the warehouse to check all the decorations are destroyed. They realize someone is doing this on purpose.
</scenario>
like that's a very shit and generic plot outline but something like that
it also depends on the model how it handles it
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>>42848322
No way, this is exactly what I've been looking for. I've been wanting to make a card where an episode from the show is plays out as it originally did but now {{user}} is there and can change things. I've been holding off because I didn't want to make it too prescriptive where the model sticks too hard to the script or it's too lax and it diverges too hard. I'm gonna have to try this out, thanks!
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>>42848327
different models react differently and enforce the scenario either loosely or strongly
if it doesn't pick up on it much, you can put the scenario in the AN instead, having it be part of the User message makes some models pay much more attention to it
sometimes the model also needs to be reminded the scenario is a secret, for example my scenario tag is <scenario secret-from="Everyone, this is system info. Characters are not aware of any meta information.">
it will work best with a thinking model
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>>42848334
Oh I forgot, so Gemini 2.5 was incapable of keeping a secret iirc from discussions here, wonder if Gemini 3 has the same issue
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>>42848339
I remember that too, but I don't think that guy ever tried to tell the model it was a secret from everyone and give it a reason why
just saying >secret isn't enough tokens to overcome the models innate bias
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>>42848297
i'm not finding this at a glance. where's the thread - mlp, vg, somewhere else?
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>>42848380
It was on /mlp/ just look up ss13 in desuarchive and you'll see the thread about it. It's still active but most of the threads were over the summer.
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I shudder to think how unoptimized the regex replacement is with all of these running all the time
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>>42848419
What preset is this?
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They really are trained on some fics and fanworks.
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For some reason Google asks for a number when I make a new mail/account on PC, but doesn't when I create a new one thru phone.
On another note, did Silly get a new mail yet? I saw tuta killed his. Riseup.net would be good if they didn't kill invites.
cock.li maybe? It doesn't have webmail anymore and needs a mail client like Thunderbird or emClient on his end.
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>>42846376
>>42848477
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Ponies.
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>>42848429
as in what UI preset? it's an RPG one I found in a rentry somewhere
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>>42848419
Regex optimization? It doesn't really matter for our purposes
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>>42848526
>ST dev purposes
doing nothing?
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>>42848501
I'm still waiting for that umapony card that anon promised.
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>put 100 bucks into OR
>this'll be good for three weeks at least!
>make new card
>hmm I better test this with Opus 4.5 to get the best possible experience
>three days later credits down to $20
FUCK I need to stop doing that. I wish I was rich.
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>>42848419
Shouldn't matter unless you're doing some perl-like abominations.
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>>42848556
But which one? There are so many to choose from. My pick would be Transcend
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>>42848558
>testing with overpriced anthropic models instead of deepseek or glm for 80% less money
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>>42848558
I took the $25 plan on >>42845041, it's working so far. I'm not sure how long it will stay, but if you can truly burn $20 a day on Opus 4.5 it may be worth it.
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>>42848568
>testing with unreliable chink models instead of free options
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>>42848568
What's the point testing with only shit models? If things don't work right with them it doesn't tell me anything.
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>>42848483
Anon, he literally just said he saw Silly mention they killed his email...
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>>42848541
Nice.
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>>42848575
if your shit card cant work on SOTA models that are better than 90% of the mistrals and sub 70B params then it's a totally useless card and you're basically talking with claude itself when prompting
>>42848573
I cannot comprehend this post but everyone obsessed with "free" shit should put on a trip so I can filter their inane opinions that seem to only revolve around things being free
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>>42848580
I know, but >>42846376 is silly isn't it? It'd be good if he could see the post since cock.li would be good, maybe
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>>42848588
>Deepslop & GLM
>SOTA
Tourist paypigs can go back to >>>/g/, and take your chink shilling with you.
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I miss when this shithole was down and we had our own site without the buzzword cancer that follows AI generals around
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>>42848558
>FUCK I need to stop doing that. I wish I was rich.
why not try get onto sillyspoon, or use one of the scripts?
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sucked celestias horn
she came
its not gay
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>>42848681
homo
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>>42848681
>cheating on twilight's horn
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>>42848681
Not posting logs of it is.
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>>42848686
poof
>>42848694
>purple autistic luna
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>>42848681
Next thing you know she'll be rearranging your guts with that thing. It's a slippery slope.
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I love reality-bending themes. So I tried something along the lines of a mare which is almost here, but not exactly. It's still barebones and the greeting is a placeholder to set the scene, but just now it occurred to me how similar it is to the ghost routes in slay the princess.
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>>42848716
Thought it was
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Sitting%20Mare.png at first
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>>42847682
Really cute description, well stylized and very in character.
One thing I'm not sure about is the second paragraph. Again it's cute and well written in Pinkie style, but it's mostly about models' tendencies.
>Her eyes are a bright sky blue and often shimmer with her happiness, energy, and love for the world she lives in.
Models fucking love eyes shimmering or glistening or getting wide as plates etc. "{{char}}'s eyes" must be one of the most spammed ways to start a paragraph, with "{{char}}'s ears" for us horsefuckers.
From my tests, bringing up eye color or eye details in the description reinforces that even more. I try to avoid them for characters where I know the models already know their details. Maybe the same could happen with the mane, but I'm less sure about it.
Now that's from my own observations, so I would try it yourself. Play with her without the physical details paragraph, with a smaller one, with your current, etc. and check if you see differences.
Again it's mostly model comportment; the paragraph itself is cutely written.
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>>42848778
It's a very similar idea, and the image was perfect to start with. I'll find something else in time.
In the meantime, I'm trying to marry the concept with player interactions that go beyond initial confusion. It's hard.
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>>42848910
Another funny coincidence; I just tabbed back into the thread and suddenly you sent me this reply right as I was coming in. Got the pop-up then and everything. Truly working on Ponk gives us a Pinkie sense of our own.

But yeah! I appreciate the feedback, I haven't noticed anything weird with the eyes just yet but I've just tested it out a bit. So, I took this sentence:
>Her eyes are a bright sky blue and often shimmer with her happiness, energy, and love for the world she lives in.
I left it in for two generations in a normal start, and then removed it for two. There are four outputs in this image; the first two from Ponk are from the same response WITH that text in, and the second two are without it in. Gonna keep testing but I do see what you mean and I'll have to see how I feel about it. These tests haven't been extensive at the time of posting and I'm flattered you like my writing.
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>>42848540
Wdym are you working on a fork for st? I was saying that we don't need to optimize regex for card roleplay
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a little change to only allow perceiving her in memories made for an interesting interaction. I'm surprised it works.
Still not enough for an interesting story imo.
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>>42848984
I mean I am, but that's unrelated to the regex part
and optimizing it is needed, because this shitty page uses 2 gigs of ram and lags if I get close to around 100 messages/80k tokens on screen
something is totally unoptimized
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google keeps asking for a phone number, how do i bypass it?
hope i am able to send a mail to silly soon so i don't have to rely on scripts.
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>>42849040
If you have an old android phone, you can factory reset it to make Google accounts.
Else you need to use paid services like SMSPool to get SMS numbers; free ones don't work.
That's all, nothing else you can do.
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>>42849048
>If you have an old android phone
good thing for me then. but just in case, SMSpool costs pennies, doesn't it? last time i tried it at least.
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>>42848936
How do you prompt it to give you short replies like that?
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>>42849144
once you do it for a couple of turns the model gets used to it
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Aw man, is Minesweeper dead? I just got off work and wanted to see if telling the AI to avoid using Marvel style writing would make GPT5+ bearable to use
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>>42849144
I revamped my prompt recently, and added a short instruction today:
>And, this is really important, don't have character just explain or repeat things! If you have nothing interesting to write, then write less or just drop the dialogue altogether.
>Don't explain everything, leave things to subtext.
This is the part that changed response length and quality. Before it, I'd get fluff lines that just explain and reassert stuff.

>>42849147
Only to some degree.
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>>42849191
I mean that's heavily model specific
You can explicitly tell it to only reply with a single paragraph of less than 100 words
You can also tell it to write in a very dry narration style, only objectively describing what's going on
Lots of short messages and short replies tend to condition the model to keep it short though, I need to use noass to get longer replies after a while
You only need 1 long reply to make it go back to usual though
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I thought that allowing ponies to remember her briefly in the moment would allow for better interactions, but no matter how I phrase it she's invisible anyway. I'll need to think it over.

>>42849196
I mentioned quality change because back when I specified length only, the AI wasn't prioritizing the most important information to include. The responses were short, but fluff heavy - e.g. somehow the models were prone to end with a description of the atmosphere, a challenge dialogue from a character, or something else not important. I get less of that tonight. And it works for deepseek and gemini for me, on the same exact preset.
I'm considering turning the instruction into a separate section so I can turn it on and off as needed, but it's handy for testing the card now.
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>>42845182
I think I made her mad, you guys...
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>>42849287
shut up chrysalis, let your human boyfriend handle things
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>Gemini 2.5 brings up the Mirror Pool unprompted and gets its properties right first try when we visit it
Gemini pisses me off a lot, but sometimes it hits me with gold and random lore tidbits like that and it's nice.
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>>42847989
>Rarity has the most vectors
Favoritism.
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>>42849287
Peak writing with no ism's. What model/preset?
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>>42849800
Not really. When was the last time you saw a Rarity log? AJ gets more love than marshmallow slut
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what's the trick to make Claude write something different every swipe instead of recycling the same shit with different words? Can a brother get spoonfed just this once?
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>>42849800
Kek. I just remember that she had more vectors and expressions than the others in general when I searched for them.
>>42849873
A bit long, but this one was fun. And I'm pretty sure we're getting more Rarity logs than AJ ones. Most sources of recent AJ logs are from one anon who uses one of his chats to test new model releases.
I know that Rarity is often cited as one of the most fun M6 to chat with.
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>>42849877
Newest Claude is bad at swipe variety.
Some techniques were talked about here:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42834793/#q42840671
For Opus 4.5, there was this posted:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42834793/#q42838489
with log here:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42834793/#q42838206
But this doesn't seem practical for chat.
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>>42849877
Use a dynamic prefill
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>>42849877
The trick is use a different preset or model
I took apart presets and their writing instructions then combined them in frankensets which I can toggle. You are just going to have a bad time if you want variety in more deterministic (smarter) models without instructions,
CAI without training gave the most, from in character perfect to out of character terrible. But the more AI is trained the less variety you get. It's just as true for all big models - more deterministic better for code but worse for creativity.
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claude opus is now on claude pro accounts instead of just max ones, with one I run out but with 2 / $40 a month it feels like it should enough for most people
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this makes it super easy to juggle multiple claude accounts btw
https://github.com/tombii/better-ccflare
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On sillytavern, is using the authors note advisable for keeping core plot events consistant to stop the bot from reinventing them?
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>>42849918
I use lorebook entries for that but AN works too. It doesn't really matter which box you write in, only where you set it to appear in your prompt.
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>>42849918
lorebooks and summarizing are better for that
AN is more for guiding/telling the model what you want to happen next or what's the subtext, in case it doesn't get the hint or you want to push things along a certain path
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>>42849927
I think using the lorebook feature might be the best way to go. I'm really enjoying the story at the moment but I need to learn more about long memory/consistent event retention before I continue and potentially ruin it.
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>>42846591
I made a silly card.

https://u.pone.rs/srrwikzc.png
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I guess I will have a good dream.
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>>42850176
Depending on the die, some d10s have a 0 on them cause it makes certain rolls easier to interpret, though it's usually intended as and considered a 10.
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>>42845171
Forgot to anchor
>>42850021
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>>42850189
But Dashie also told me this and I don't have wings...
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>>42850021
Added, thanks anon.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=KnightOfNightmareMoon/Celestia%27s%20history%20lesson.png
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>>42850021
I can see this continuing to be rather amusing. Thanks for the card, Anon
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>>42850420
hehe, penis
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>aboba opus key finally died
damn. still I am surprised that it lasted this long.
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>>42850464
I KNEW I WAS FORGETTING TO CHECK SOMTHING GOD FUCKING DAMMIT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
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>>42850800
what fucking age gap holy shit
the built-in west coast US bias for LLMs is insane, even if you ask it to reply in other languages it still acts like a 21st century westerner
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>>42850804
you don't hate AI ethicists enough. you think you do, but you don't
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>>42850811
worry not, I hate all ethicists equally, that is extremely
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>>42850021
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Decided on a name, and did a few iterations on the description.
It was really hard to teach the AI the subtle difference between not perceiving something directly and not seeing it at all.
The biggest issue was perception of time. I tried an approach where the memory of her fades away with time, but no time scale worked for both narration and other characters. It was either she's here or she is immediately forgotten.

Well, now it's time for a good greeting.
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>>42850800
>17 to 20 is an age gap
>in a fantasy kingdom, too
This is the future we're living in.
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>>42850804
>>42851047
Honestly I'm just amazed it offered up 16 instead of 18 on it's own.
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>>42851052
>assuming they didn't put the ages in the context
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>>42851068
>setting ages to anything higher than single digits
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>>42845627
Your inbox full? Keep getting rejections when I send emails to it. The tuta one.
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Is it worth to to run locally if I have a 4090 instead of having to hunt for proxies?
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>>42851166
Only if you really care about privacy or running things locally.
Otherwise, you’ll have better results with free Gemini or DeepSeek even without a proxy.
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>>42851166
lol no, the only thing near claude is kimi and you would need like 500GB vram to run that. not 24GB
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Another weird card from me!
Apologize for the semantic shortcut inside, but it was the best one I found. I put some surprises in, that could be brought up during play. I suggest being observant.

>>42845177
Short Stream is a mare that almost isn't there. You can't see her, but there's a memory lingering. How do you deal with such an abberation?
Three greetings available: Friendship problem in an old town, Twilight's book club, night shift
https://files.catbox.moe/wtai0w.png
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>>42845182
Dashie's Calendar

Download:
https://u.pone.rs/xtejliwr.zip

Installation: Extract the game folder into your game directory, overwrite when prompted

>I don't give a shit about the details, just tell me what it does
It's a calendar system that adds date tracking, seasons, weather, and events to the VN. Ponies will get excited for upcoming holidays, the environment will change throughout the year, and the world will hopefully feel more immersive.

>Core Features
- Calendar UI
- Every holiday and event I could find from the first 3 seasons of the show
- Support for custom events for birthdays or any other event you want
- 25 unique seasonal contexts throughout the year with different temperatures and atmospheric details
- Time skip feature that lets you jump to any future date from the map screen

>Events
- 16 predefined Equestrian holidays and events spread throughout the year
- A few new locations for certain events
- Most events are on fixed dates, but some are dynamic (like Mother's Day falling on the second Sunday of May)

>Custom Start Changes
- Select any starting date you want from the calendar
- Option to start with your own home instead of living at Golden Oak

>Notes
- Custom events go in game/calendar/custom_events/. You can append any event you want to the 'my_events.rpy' file
- A couple of optional events are provided at the bottom of 'my_events.rpy'. Uncomment those sections if you want to enable them
- If you want to permanently change the default starting date so the change applies to the default or quick start, you can do so by editing the first 3 variables in game/calendar/calendar_system.rpy
- I don't want to bore you with all the details here. Check out the README in the calendar folder if you're interested in how the system works, when event names/descriptions are sent, and how to create your own custom events
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>>42851279
Based.
Thank you for your work, Anon.
Will test it tomorrow and report.
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>>42851282
Thanks! I hope you like it.
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>>42851170
>kimi
>near claude
pick one.
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>>42851431
kimi thinking is the closest you can get to opus that is not opus, though now that claude opus is cheaper and is on the pro plan there is no need anymore
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>>42851438
I used kimi plenty of times on proxies. It's no where near claude. Just something to plug in now and then for a little more variety, but awful when it's pure kimi context for longer term.
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>>42851445
nah, most people just used shitty providers or used it at higher than like 0.05-0.1 temperature
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>>42849905
>>42849906
You could have paid $10 a month instead of $20, claude is doing a deal where claude pro is 50% off for three months if you use this link: https://claude.ai/jade
Unlimited (?) opus for $20 isnt bad.
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>>42851450
I've already had a account and imo you need at least 2x pro accounts for actually unlimited opus if you use it heavily (several hours straight)
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2025/10/15/ai-porn-is-coming-to-chatgpt-in-december/
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To the three other anons that snagged the antigravity script from a week ago, is it already dead? Because I'm now getting empty responses after opus got added
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>>42851559
Yea, you aren't the only one. What a shame. It was a good script... what a rotten way to die.
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>42851548
>October
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How much info do you guys put in your persona? A paragraph!

And any tips on keeping AI aware that my partner is on 4 legs?

Thanks :3
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>>42851231
Added, thanks anon.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Short%20Stream.png
>>42851279
Thanks a lot, anon. I will add the page for it on the website later today.
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>>42851908
>How much info do you guys put in your persona?
Depends on what I RP as, but generally a paragraph, yes.
I tend to avoid physical descriptions like eye color since models are obsessed with it. Mostly sex, race and background info.
>And any tips on keeping AI aware that my partner is on 4 legs?
Which model are you using? For Claude models, I usually don't bother and just correct the rare times where it shits itself on that.
For others, I suppose you can add a line in your preset telling it to remember they are quadruped ponies.
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>>42851908
If I keep being taken out of it, I'll put a little ooc mention in authors note.
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>>42845169
I'm still waiting for a Plane pony bot
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>>42851279

HRNNGGGGG!!!
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>>42852123
Wheely confirmed next bot?
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>>42852243
I want to nut inside Sombra
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>>42851279
Cool. I'll probably look in the code for a way to have a different background depending on the season.
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>>42852289
Replacing certain locations with a winter counterpart in the prompt based on the date would definitely be possible. I would be happy to implement it if I had enough snowy background images to replace most of the outside scenes in Ponyville.
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>Roleplay with humans
>Every human is named 'Marcus Chen' or 'Sarah Chen' or Mr.Henderson if they're old
>All the exact same annoying Reddit personalities

>Roleplay with ponies
>Usually see unique names, personalities and appearances
Does struggle with making the ponies too Gen-Z, and their cutie marks tend to never be anything that cool or aesthetic in my experiences. But the point stands, there is more luster in ponies. I love it
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>>42852355
>Marcus Chen
>Sarah Chen
Do you live in Chinatown or some shit?
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>>42852355
I've noticed the Marcus Chen epidemic with Claude as well. It's so weird, you'd think the training data would have so much human stuff in it that it wouldn't always default to that.
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>>>/g/107444455
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>>42852355
>>42852374
>>42852376
Usually claude makes "Marcus" a name of someone ind a position of religious authority or a mentor.
Never got Sarah.
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>>42845182
>>42847989
I added a folder for Locations in the Drive. This way anons can share the locations they have created or help create season variants of what exists.
>>42852289 for instance was added in Ponyville\ExistingLocations\ponyville_outskirts
I still need to add the locations from the Nightmare AU mod + Crystal Empire and Manehattan ones. Will do later.
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How do you deal with "Tell me what you want" or "Tell me you want this" when doing the deed? It is honestly, very annoying.
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>>42852573
logit bias tell: -90 or something lol
mainly depth zero instructions telling the model to have chars to stop being drama queens, although this is model dependent as some models are inherently more dramatic
# Melodrama and excessive seriousness is forbidden, don't overanalyze/overexplain character actions like they're planning everything in their heads. Instead base them on normal human motivations and emotions, allow conversations that have no hidden meaning using normal everyday language.
# Feelings should be grounded and avoid "dark" or "twisted" tropes like possessiveness, or ownership, or obsessiveness, or claiming, and avoid a grimdark narrative tone. People are people, not robots. It's not that deep, and most things aren't huge dramatic reveals, or vulnerabilities, or risks, or intense, or trauma.
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>>42852573
you gotta tell them what you want
what you really really want
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>>42852573
dynamic prefill



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