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Come one and all to the meta-writefag and help raise the quality of MLP fanfiction! Featuring: AI slop!

ITT: Luna's cellulite, a month long one week warning, Princesses being kids, writing, removing adverbs expeditiously, sockpuppeting from your own account, a '12 fic feels more dated than the 80s themselves, how does one stop being terrible at writing?, a certificate of writing ability from the school of ChatGPT, filtering subhumans from posting, no reason to bother with G5, most of the mares in the show would be good mothers, Wasp and Spiders, stories update after five years, masked autism, and using TEL to track monochromatic's menstrual cycle!

>/fimfic/ Secret Book Club
The one hundred and forty fourth, hundred and forty fifth, hundred and forty sixth, and hundred and forty seventh books are:
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/93573/the-most-inappropriate-hearthswarming-stories-for-foals
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/72777/a-canterlot-carol
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/56826/yes-apple-bloom-there-is-a-santa-hooves
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/71244/our-gifts
If (You) want to participate, read up to and including "Chapter 7: Mad World" by December 14th.
Past bookclubs: https://ponepaste.org/11255

>Recommended stories:
Tired of adventures that meander for a million words? Fed up with super special OCs? Well, we've compiled the best of the worst in order to bring you our absolute average!
New Starter Kit - http://mlpficreviews.org.uk/starter/
Old Starter Kit - http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png

>Common fic abbreviations used by the thread:
https://ponepaste.org/7317

>A list of reviews made by the Anons in this thread:
http://www.mlpficreviews.org.uk
Use the commands ">review <story link>" and ">discuss <story link>" to add reviews to a story.
Userscript for extra features: https://ponepaste.org/8619

>An in-depth writing guide for beginners:
https://eznguide.neocities.org/

>Additional material for authors:
Rhorse's Horse Behavioral Notes - https://ponepaste.org/932
Politics and the English Language - https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/
Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - https://poneb.in/g4VpEg4f
Purdue Online Writing resources: https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/index.html and https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/subject_specific_writing/creative_writing/writers/index.html

>Can you pre-read my story?
Post it on Google Docs or HackMD with comments enabled and give us a link.

>Various reviews and riffs:
Fillyanon's Bookshelf - https://ponepaste.org/5555
Notkickass222urmom's Reviews - https://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmom
IHeartShinzakura's Reviews - https://ponepaste.org/user/IHeartShinzakura
Appleanon reads fics - https://poneb.in/wmGX7FPm
Deluxe Big Master Review List - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z9Bz7UnEbxo-svlXa2tV49PJkP-yFuR7pRXiBUn-IeU
A Guide to Rational Fics - https://files.catbox.moe/3jzrfm.png

Previous Thread: >>42866133
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First for FUCK the TUNERD
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2nd for happy holidays and happy horse words!
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Merry Christmas, Anons. I'm happy to see things are mostly the same around here.

>>42900253
Well, I'm here now, so if there is serious intent behind modifying the SK (and Reviewanon is still present) I can do that. But I'm not sure if it's worth reopening that can of worms.

>>42900259
CZ was an ambitious story, but it kinda fell apart towards the end. I feel Sarge works much better with fantasy, though that might just be because he has a lot more experience in that genre.
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>>42901089
It's okay, we're all adults here. You don't have to pretend you were trying to do anything other than insult me. But you need to work harder. That attempt was so petty and juvenile that I found myself amused rather than offended. Good luck in the future!
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2026 better be my year or I'm going to shit your pants
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>>42901110
>off by one
Off to a great start!
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https://www.fimfiction.net/group/787/nsfw/thread/568956/zebradom-contest-announcement
Brace yourselves, a wave of barely literate anthro shit is coming.
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>>42901123
BASED
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>>42901097
It's probably just Q, he does that.
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>>42901123
>Grammar as a scoring pillar
>"becoming more feminin"
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>>42901123
>that cover pic
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>>42901123
>First Place: 100$
Do people really?
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>>42901051
Can you guys believe it? Filly! And just a _ away!
I am so happy with this information!
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What'd you get for Christmas fimfic?
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>>42901186
Even funnier, you get only five points for good grammar, but you may get additional $10 for including cuckolding.
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>>42901268
Some books (not fanfics), insulated pants, new work shoes (old ones clapped out) , gloves, a new phone case, t-shirts, candy, jerky, and some scratch off lottery tickets (made less than they cost)
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>>42901268
Wife drew our horsonas together as a gift, and I wrote a story about her OCs for her.
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>>42901406
If that's not love, I don't know what is.
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Happy Hearth's Warming, /fimfic/
>>42900212
>>42900253
I really do appreciate it, you two. Thanks for sharing your interpretation, the kind words, and of course, for reading.
>>42900259
>>42901051
I think CZ sucks!
>Published: Dec 25th, 2022
Has it really been that long? Time to post the last Fokienia, I s'pose.
>Was that any good?
It was my first and only long fic. I'm biased, so, I'll say this: I personally still really like it in a lot of ways (such as the fact that it's actually completed), but I don't recommend going out of your way to read it. I always wanted to write a sci-fi fic, so I did. And I did so by throwing in allllll the sci-fi shit I like. CZ is sloppa, but it's MY sloppa.
>I feel Sarge works much better with fantasy, though that might just be because he has a lot more experience in that genre.
Yes, fantasy is much more palatable, as I get to fully lean into whimsy and ponydom. I do not sit well in the sci-fi writing chair.
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>>42901097
I mean, I've seen the female name and the story about trans characters so it was a reasonable assumption to make. I forgot you're also bipolar though.
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>>42901133
I must have missed that particular episode of TNG.
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>>42901473
If you're willing to reveal your hand (hoof?) a little, did you mean the seapony to be an actual, living being or a metaphor / personification?
>>Published: Dec 25th, 2022
Damn, feels like yesterday.
>Fokienia
FWIW, I think your OC is great. She could easily fit into your other stories too, just perhaps not as a cyborg.
>CZ is sloppa, but it's MY sloppa.
Yeah, I know what that's like. Making Witless was this for me. I knew it'd be very niche, but the idea just kept prodding me until I wrote it.

>>42901406
That is absolutely lovely.

>>42901268
Some clothes, some sweets. I'm at the point in life where I no longer really want big presents and I much more appreciate spending time with the family.
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>>42901406
That's so fucking cute
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>>42901268
A hundred bucks from relatives, a scarf, and my girlfriend bought me Skong. I also bought myself some weebshit but it won't arrive until spring.
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>>42901524
>Skong
Did you beat the first one though
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Been wanting to do a Skong crossover but it's sunlight instead of silk as the curse.
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>>42901512
>If you're willing to reveal your hand (hoof?) a little, did you mean the seapony to be an actual, living being or a metaphor / personification?
all the ponies are real to me, filly
>She could easily fit into your other stories too
No, she's too big for that!
>the idea just kept prodding me until I wrote it.
It do be like that...
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>>42901530
I don't play sequels without playing the previous entries.
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>>42901268
Some high quality bell-bottom pants and lots of alcohol.
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>>42901504
My name's not female, and I've never written any story with trans characters. Also, I'm ADHD but not bipolar. Either you're thinking of someone else, or you're trying to troll me. I think it's the latter? But ridiculous nonsense doesn't make me angry. It makes me laugh (hence my affection for crackfics). You should probably give up. I realize that's hard (and your commitment to your bit has been admirable so far), but if you keep replying, I might have to tell my family what I think is so funny. Then all of us will laugh at you, not just me.
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>>42901773
>My name's not female; what is female is what I'm going to >rape.
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>>42901773
>but if you keep replying, I might have to tell my family what I think is so funny. Then all of us will laugh at you, not just me
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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/586104/effective-vigilance

This was cute
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>>42901797
>>42901862
I'm not sure what you're getting at here. These weren't funny, just incomprehensible. Is your problem jealousy? You're jealous of the fact that I can write and you can't? That I completed a Jinglemas story, on time, and the recipient liked it? Anon, all of us have our talents. One of my talents is competence. I signed up for Jinglemas, and because I'm competent, I delivered. It sounds like maybe you weren't able to finish your fic in time. But that's okay! Not everyone can be competent. I'm sure you have other talents.
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>>42901510
It was the Jadzia/Lenara kiss of its time
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>>42901406
How lovely. Hope you both had a merry Christmas Anon
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>>42901913
Are you sure it's only ADHD you have?
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>>42901947
it's been a good month, all things considered.
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>>42901974
I have many things: A house, a stable job, a family, all of that. But life isn't about stuff, Anon! You can be happy without any of that. You need only one thing to be truly happy.
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>>42901406
You are an incredibly lucky man. Be grateful.
Also I think I have seen you and your wives OCs on this board before.
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>>42902022
Most obvious ragebait ever and anon kept falling for it post after post.
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>>42902031
>you and your wives OCs
Anon got upgraded to harem haver I see.
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Happy Hearth's Warming, and Merry Christmas, you guys. Hey, printFag, what do you think of my proposition that we share a table at next year's Mare Fair? If I don't mention it now, I'll forget for another week.

Damn, I can't believe I found a good image to post. This thing's old, too.

>>42902022
>that image
Fucking disgusting. Twilight Sparkle would never have wings.
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>>42902061
>heretical bastardization of twilight follows heretical bastardization of judaism
It fits.
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The way Rarity pulled AJ to Strawberry Sunrise implies she already knew her and was literally just waiting for a time AJ would fuck up to spring it on her.
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>>42902131
Keeping a dedicated hater in one's back pocket is always a smart idea.
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>>42902156
Who knows the kinds of things she's gaslit Sweetie Belle into believing.
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Congrats on becoming a janny, Kaz.
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49th for best duo!
Enjoy this conveniently packaged Tuna: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/70272/becoming-one-with-the-night
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>>42902173
I do also like it when the captcha is a moon.
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>>42902165
kek
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How many of you are Jinglemasing this year?
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>>42902177
>No Captcha required.
>No valid Captcha.
Well then how the fuck am I supposed to post lol
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>>42902464
With my luck I'd get a diaperfag
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>>42902470
I got that right before refreshing the page into a 4chanX update and not since.
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>>42902474
Last year, I got someone going as far removed from the prompt I asked while still technically complying that I was somewhat impressed.
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>>42902732
I'm seeing real big time authors get paired up with amateurs that are Not Good and I almost feel bad.
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>>42902888
I'm not sure why people do this because everyone seems to be describing every single thing being bad.
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>>42902898
Some of us have faith in others.
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>>42902903
Persistent faith in the face of overwhelming evidence is simple delusion.
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>>42902903
From what I see having faith in your jinglemas partner is like praying for a parachute right before you hit the ground.
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>>42902898
It's one of the few things that get me to actually write something.
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It produced one of my favorite fics, at least.
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>>42902959
Oh wait, no, that was a gift exchange from a discord, nevermind.
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>>42902961
Well, what story was it?
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>>42902966
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/500819
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>>42900088
>coomer patreon discord server
It's probably more to combat patreon "archiver" websites like Kenomo. I've seen artists try weird DRM like giving out a password to a MEGA link for 24 hours before deleting it, hoping the pirate with access is too lazy to manually upload the content and instead rely on the auto scrapper.

>>42901123
>10$ The Spade (QoS - Queen of Stripes): Using the iconic black spade, either as an accessory or a tattoo on the characters body to subtly imply the characters preferences.
>iconic black spade
FoE has sub fetishes? What fucking rabbit hole am I staring down right now?

>>42901268
Clothes, tools, a chair cover. If it wasn't for the candy, I would have fully ascended into boring grown-up presents. I still remember the first time I got exciting getting underwear. That's when I knew it was over.

>>42902470
Gotta update your 4chan script of choice. 4chanX has an update they released a few days ago. Not sure about the other choices.
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>>42903108
It's a blacked thing, it's just some dude pushing his racism fetish.
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>>42901123
Lmao
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>>42903129
Judging by his reading comprehension, he's probably not a great writer. But then, he is, may Allah forgive me for uttering these words, a vorefag.
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>>42901123
>1. Story length must be at least 5,000 words. No limit on how long the story can be.
Oh, I'm sure. I'd love to write to have a chance to make less than my current rate for commissions.

>8. The dont's of the contest:
>>Pregnancy/Pregnant Characters The act of impregnation is fair game tho!
kek

>Extra Achievements
>>10$ The Spade (QoS - Queen of Stripes): Using the iconic black spade, either as an accessory or a tattoo on the characters body to subtly imply the characters preferences.
>subtly imply
Yeah, real fucking subtle these days.
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>>42903357
>in an appalling escalation of racial tensions four zebras were found using a fat mare as a pillow
>the shocked authorities alerted the Princesses who promptly issued a summon to the Zebrican ambassador
>follow the story here as it develops
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>>42903423
kek

They're worshipping her as a fertility goddess.
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>>42901123
>Using the iconic black spade, either as an accessory or a tattoo on the characters body to subtly imply the characters preferences.
WTF even is this? Is this a thing? What preferences? Am I terminally square?
>Stories graded on grammar, flow, and atmosphere.
Grammar sure, but the others seem kind of arbitrary and abstract... especially for a porn contest.
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>>42903548
how new
r u
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/77217654
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Fic where everything zebradom turns out to be kink stories Zecora told the ponies and other zebras are completely confused when horny ponies come running up to them demanding to be striped.
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>>42903612
>inverse Tariq Nasheed
I'd say "fund it" but I'd rather my money go to Hamas than anyone entertaining this filth.
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Are there any good zebra romance fics where the zebra(s) is/are not watermelon people coded?
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>>42903647
>are there any good miscegenyfics that aren't degenerate?
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>>42903647
This is the only one that comes to mind.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/512761/the-guard-of-a-different-stripe
I remember it being pretty good.
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While we've got 'Nippone' for a fun pony name for Japan as an example, what does Russia have other than 'Stalliongrad', that's just a city rather than a country.
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>>42903611
I have the same question as him. That thread isn't an answer because it's just a nigger coom thread, and I've never even wanted to try cooming to shitskins. Does the spade have any meaning beyond "blacked"? Where does it come from?
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>>42903710
I'm fairly certain it was just chosen because some dude liked card deck suits.
Incidentally, BLEACHED took off after the blacked shit ramped up and they took the heart suit as their counter to the spade.
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>>42903683
Prussia(Pony Russia)
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Lot of insecure ponyboys in the thread.
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>>42903714
>whyteboys claiming hearts
Reminds me of spic supremacists employing the clubs suit in a similarly derivative move.
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>>42903683
Considering the size of places in Equus, it seems fine to treat places like Neighpon and Stalliongrad as both a city and a state in furtherance of puns.
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>>42903714
Riced (or maybe it was the reverse of it) and Transed are fighting for the diamond last I checked.
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>>42903710
>Does the spade have any meaning beyond "blacked"?
My assumption is just that it's a visual pun on "black queen", but then I suppose a chess piece would work better for that.
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>>42903765
>Transed
Now they should have clubs. They already have one in their pants.
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>>42903782
>his chess sets aren't white and red
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>>42903720
I may be a ponyboy but I will stay gold.
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>>42901797
This got a kek from me
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>>42903782
Hmmm...
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>>42903612
Wasn't that Weaver's character
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>write zebras racistly
>racistly mad about zebras, because racism
Funny how that entire class of problems just goes away if you blend both sides.
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I'm really disappointed by the racist community. I don't think I've seen even one fic with Saddle Arabians coming to Equestria and causing trouble.
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>>42904016
Saddle Arabian pegasi aren't welcome in Equestria since that one incident in Manehattan?
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>>42903683
Petrotgrad
Murmaresk
Mosscow
Yakaterinburg
Chelyabitsk
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>>42904054
>THEY HIT THE BUCKING PONETAGON!
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>>42903710
It is used because "spade" is another epithet for niggers, like "spearchucker" or "jigaboo".
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Gonna write one where a ponyville stallion has sex with a fat assed zebra mare.
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>>42904116
Is exotic pussy the solution to racism?
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On the other hand, there is a fic where Shining PONE.COM's the zebras with portals
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/574518/stud-service
It's probably the closest I think I've ever seen Some Leech get to writing something with actual erotic appeal
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>>42904152
>exotic
She's lived in Fillydelphia her whole life anon. She works at a Starbucks.
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>>42904164
Reminds me of the fic where Shining Armor outfucks Futa Celestia and she's ashamed of it.
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>>42904188
Yeah, but I'm not from Fillydelphia, am I?
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>>42904195
Saying Fillydelphia is exotic is like saying you eat ethnic food because you put jalapenos on your hayburger.
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>>42904199
Neither jalapeños nor burgers are native to where I'm from.
What's common to ones is exotic to others.
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>>42904308
What really fucks with me is how if you were to ask what's the two most rustic foods one could think of in my country, people would immediately answer potatoes and paprika. They are in centuries old recipes, they are part of folklore and folk tales, they are present throughout our entire lives... and yet they've only been around since like the 16th century.
Which is obviously still quite a long time, but on a historical scale, it's barely a sneeze.
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>>42904322
I can't believe guns are older than potatoes.
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>>42904339
See, that's the exact opposite effect in my opinion.
I'd expect guns to be a relatively modern thing. Say, nearing the end of the middle ages, 15th-16th century, but no, the Chinese have been merrily blasting each other since around the 10th century and by the 13th, they've been present in Europe too (even if it only really became big later).
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>>42904322
>having a century-old national history
Nobody likes a show-off.
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>>42904358
Hey now, the US is actually older than some European countries if you go by their modern founding state. You just mostly tried to kill the preceding culture so it feels younger.
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>>42904412
>implying I'm a mutt
Unfortunately, Chance doesn't let me select my waifu's flag anymore, so you have to rely on your pattern recognition skills.
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>>42904429
>>implying I'm a mutt
Spiritually your nations are one.
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Trying to think of a horse pun name for Rome. The obvious one is "Roam", right? But then I wanna use that phrase. "When in Roam, do as the Roamin' do". Does that work, you think?
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>>42904453
When in Roam, start roaming.
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I don't like how in Days of Wasp and Spider they start off just calling their parents mother and father and then switch to dam and sire in Final Solution.
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>>42904475
Love it. Thanks Anon, definitely going to use that.
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>>42904453
Why not Romane? There's a lettuce pun there somewhere.
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>>42904453
Roan?
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>>42904539
Which is what becomes Roam.
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>>42900727
>Did they agree to take it slower? I thought Peter's position in the hot tub scene was "if you don't put out tonight, I won't keep waiting, and I'll probably start banging someone else as soon as we get to the city".
You're right after looking at the chapter again, although it's worded in a very poor way. Peter did say he may find someone else in the city, but confusion comes from the moment after from how the MC said they do indeed like him and said they needed more time to be ready before Peter responds by agreeing and saying they'll see where that takes them. Essentially, instead of Peter giving up and actually letting the MC know that they should only remain friends from now, he left it in the air to keep his options open. Worse, it was worded in a way to make it sound that Peter was agreeing to WAIT for the MC to be ready, while also getting off on the technicality that he did say before that he would seek someone else at the city. In the end, Peter is just a character in it for the sex, even if he has to string along someone's emotions, just in case he gets an in. Regardless it that was the original intent in his writing or not.

>nothing can top the bit with the mechanic colt in Sisters of Willowbrook
I may regret asking, but what happened in that instance? Never read anything from Starscribe up to this point, so I'm curious of what the worst example of their writing is.

>That would honestly be fine. I'm not a huge fan of the way Sunburst is written in the last few chapters, but at least he has some personality
Less bothered by Sunburst himself and more from the MC side of things, and the potential railroading of the situation. It's just frustrating to see the MC be easily adapt to the idea of having sex with the opposite gender with little to no resistance on the matter. For what's suppose to be a serious story about an apocalypse, a human man going through a gender bend into an alien species sounds like a situation where they would get angry and fight back with all their might if they noticed themselves falling into a form of instinct they knew was part of their alien body, especially if that instinct is changing something as personal as sexual attraction, which is exactly what that bat pony guard perfectly illustrated (before they completely fucked it up), but instead the MC is written to be easily giving in to stallion scent and the idea of sleeping with them to the point of low standards. Again, the potential was there to explore the conundrum of alien instincts, especially if Starscribe actually had the relationship with their ex remain for whatever time, but instead it's just written closely to a porn scenario involving a gender bend.
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>>42904797
the simple answer is the instinct isn't alien and he was just in the closet and now has an excuse to lust after stallions
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Incredible
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>>42904843
Vibes
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>>42904843
The Scottish pony ghost in this fic was so bad it made me racist against Scots IRL
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>>42904843
same energy
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>>42904878
Why would you read it? Why would you read the SECOND one?
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>>42904931
Because I gotta know if he finds the Titans' Orbs and saves Equestria from the Rising Storm, it's right there in the title
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Titans' Orbs is so fucking awkward. Why not just The Orbs of the Titans?
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>>42904967
Because that's a mouthful, and his mouth is already full of the Titans' Orbs.
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>>42904843
Oh to have the confidence of a socially unaware autistic...
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>>42904797
>Worse, it was worded in a way to make it sound that Peter was agreeing to WAIT for the MC to be ready
I think he pretty explicitly says that he's NOT going to wait:
>If we get down there, we meet other people—there's nothing that says the two of us are ever gonna be together like this again. Right now, we're just friends.
He's willing to commit to a relationship if the MC is, but if not, then they're "just friends", and he may well start dating someone else before she finishes making up her mind.

>It's just frustrating to see the MC be easily adapt to the idea of having sex with the opposite gender with little to no resistance on the matter
>the MC is written to be easily giving in to stallion scent
Yeah that's Starscribe's standard "omg why does this big manly stallion smell so good". Pic related
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>>42904797
>>nothing can top the bit with the mechanic colt in Sisters of Willowbrook
>I may regret asking, but what happened in that instance?
The MC, who is supposed to be fairly responsible for a 14-yera-old filly (which makes sense given she was previously a 25-year-old human man), has sex with a colt she just met a few days ago and lets him cum inside. He actually thought she was a dude the whole time (she's been in disguise each time they met so far), but once he realizes, he starts making out with her less than five minutes later. In the span of about 500 words, the story goes from him seeing her closet full of dresses and saying "hang on, you're actually a filly?" to him sneaking out of her room as she lays on the bed wondering if she just got herself knocked up. She never had any romantic feelings toward him prior to this, and also never sees him again afterward.

This is obviously "oh shit filly, wtf are you doing" tier behavior on the part of both characters, and I fucking hate it. But I could just barely be persuaded to look past that if the author had a good reason. For example, if the MC were to actually get pregnant (by a commoner, no less), that would create all sorts of interesting problems for her back at home.

The author did not have a good reason. He just needed her to get laid as a milestone of her growing up (the human MCs get turned into 10 year old fillies, and the story follows them until age 17 or so), and for some reason decided to have her do it with this random-ass guy instead of an established character. IIRC after this point she pretty abruptly goes from having no interest in colts to wanting to bang the servant's kid (who by the way is another nothingburger of a character, not quite as bad as Peter, but still badly underdeveloped given he's a major love interest). She also starts having a more mature mindset in general - not "having sex has given her a better understanding of sex and relationships", but rather "having sex makes her metaphysically an adult, so she magically has a better understanding of other random shit". Kinda like that deranged Stephen King book where the kids all have to screw each other before they can escape from the sewer.

Honestly, this fic wuold have been so much better if the author had shipped the two MCs with each other (there are in fact two human guys who both get turned into fillies at the same time). They aren't even sisters in any meaningful sense (they're raised in separate households and barely interact for most of the fic) so it wouldn't even be incest.
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>>42905693
>this story would be better if it was gay
Never change, /fimfic/.
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>>42905693
The sex scene in IT is good actually. Narratively I mean, not good as a sex scene.
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>>42905732
Sometimes that's the case. The first Equestria Girls movie would be better if Sunset had vengeful lesbian lust for Twilight instead of whatever the fuck Flash Sentry was.
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>>42905800
Equestria Girls is already 100% gay.
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>>42905853
Yeah the extended scissoring scene between Rarity and Applejack seemed kind of unneeded.
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>>42905693
I read Sisters of Willowbrook and I completely forgot this happened and was utterly confused reading about it until my brain managed to dredge up the memory.

I could probably write several posts complaining about and disambiguating what is subtly and not so subtly wrong with staracribes fics since there is a lot but I won’t because i have already done so before and because I don’t want to think about this authors stupid fucking fics anymore.
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Why does this thread talk about famous horsewords authors more than good horsewords authors?
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>>42905961
Because we are all stupid evil monkeys
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>>42905961
I post stories I like anon, why don't you?
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>>42905635
>Yeah that's Starscribe's standard "omg why does this big manly stallion smell so good". Pic related
Will make sure to avoid any Starscribe fics that involves any gender bending then, I suppose. Not sure why they write such settings if they're not going to bother delving into the obvious dysphoria and resistance that should come. Does the poor romance problem extend to any female lead they write where they can't help but fall back into shallow chemistry, or is it specifically only where gender bending is going on?

>Sisters of Willowbrook scene
Can't imagine the whiplash of an MC suddenly liking guys now and rushing to having underaged sex with a rando for the sole purpose of 'character development'...

>>42905961
Partly my fault for extending the conversation and wanting to see how bad the rabbithole of this author's writing was after that one post.
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>>42905693
Fucking kek, I'm so glad we have people here who can tell us about Starscribe's antics
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>>42903129
>adventure
>romance
>sad
>romance
>comedy
>darkest vore snuff imaginable
>move off Fimfiction to the vore site to revel in the sadism like you're moving to the Black Forest
Probably the hardest degeneracy turn I've seen. Guy hasn't touched a normal fic in nearly a decade. I wonder if he even can now.

>>42904453
Romane is practically a gift.
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A little over a day left, and I still have about 2k words to go, according to my estimates.
I shouldn't have procrastinated so much.
Though, in my defence, I got assigned fucking Student Six characters.
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>>42906113
>student shits
I want to say that's a valid reason to Grinch, but the only way for you to get a prompt like that is to request some late-season garbage yourself.
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>>42906177
I did not!
Same thing happened some years ago when I got Aria and I had to watch the EqG movie and a bunch of shorts.
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>>42904843
Had the upper part been the whole cover, it would actually kinda work. Even if "Titans' Orb" is very awkward.

>>42905961
Talking about good literature is insightful, but talking about bad literature is funny.
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>>42906202
>not writing her based entirely off the Shadow Play flashback
Skill issue.
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>>42906279
At the time, watching EqG seemed like just a bad a punishment as watching something from the latter seasons.
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>>42906025
>Does the poor romance problem extend to any female lead they write where they can't help but fall back into shallow chemistry, or is it specifically only where gender bending is going on?
Starscribe is just bad at writing romance in general. There are a few notable exceptions, but afterward he went right back to writing garbage. The good ones are:
>Fine Print: really good except for the ending. The main conflict of the whole story is "will he decide to give up his entire life on earth to be with Rose?" In the end he never actually decides, he just gets b& from earth due to Discord shenanigans so he has no choice but to stay with Rose.
>Forbidden Places: the romance plot involving Kaelynn is good, the other one is not. The ending is kind of dumb, but for non-romance-related reasons.
>Through the Aurora: this one actually starts out with TFTG and "omg stallion smell good", but they don't actually get together until after they've gone on a bunch of adventures together and saved each other's life several times. Though from the screencap I posted earlier, apparently two years ago I thought it sucked.
>Mew Like Me (pokemon fic): not really the same thing since the MC and his girlfriend are already together at the start of the fic, but he gets TFTG'd and they actually stay together afterward.
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>>42906025
>Will make sure to avoid any Starscribe fics that involves any gender bending then, I suppose
That is approximately half of their fics. And the other half still involve transformation/transhumanism shit or FIO shit.
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is there a mlp fanfiction author that has been discussed about and had their fics discussed about here more than starscribe? I imagine there is/are but I recall them and their fics being discussed here semi regularly.
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>>42906682
Currently, sure. He's the top one.
For a while, skirts was in the spotlight.
Overall, I'm sure kkat or the FiO guy would be decent contenders for consistency over the years.
Back in the day, the title would've gone to kickass222urmom, sadly.
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Beyond secondhand embarrassment, why did people not like the 'Fluttershy is mentally ill and Rarity does her best White Rabbit impression' episode?
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>>42906815
because nobody likes rarity
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>>42906824
But her being a bitch is so fun.
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>>42906758
I mean, who isn't enraptured by the subtle and profound existential comedy of https://www.fimfiction.net/story/24755/pinkie-pie-learns-a-new-word
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Are the princesses Hobbesian leviathans?
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>>42906832
300 iq story. Aristophanes? Dante? Shakespeare? Dostoyevsky? All Nothing. They would all kill themselves immediately if they ever saw this and realized how inferior their life’s work were in comparison.
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>>42906758
I doubt it's as much of a contest as you say. kkat is the winner.
For one, the Starscribe comment chains only ever have substance on the club weeks. The rest of the time, it's just the same "I want to get validation that the trans characters are too happy and the ships suck" followed immediately by validation that the trans character are too happy and the ships suck, and a smattering of keks, and then maybe it's repeated.

For another, there's still a Fallout thread, and importantly distinguishing it from the FiO threads, there's an element of care to compare FoE spinoff stories against kkat's work. The thread doesn't want to talk about good fics, so that tends to manifest in how much worse Somber's writing is than kkat's, but a lot of it still revolves around kkat. In contrast, it's hard to believe that big of a fraction of FiO posters even know Iceman authored FiO. That story was written to be released as a "what if scifi trope you guys" and generally left to spin on its own afterwards. People are much more likely to know about FoE than FiO out in the bigger fandom.

Even this thread has certainly talked about Forthwith and Luna-tic more than Starscribe, overall.

>triforce captcha
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>>42907038
are you monitoring my tyrant twi search results?
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>>42907038
In a very loose sense, I guess? Based on the list of "principal rights" from the wiki:
>They are absolute authorities, whom all good ponies swore fealty to and those who try to dissent are universally seen as agents of chaos
>Without their presence ponies can easily revert to a general state of panic (Reflecting the concept of "war of all against all")
>They act like ultimate judges to preserve peace and the well being of their subjects (think Discord and Tartarus, or even Luna)
>They choose their officials / power is vested by the Crown (Every important official defers to their advice in time of need)
>They personally reward and punish good and evil
>They personally pick their successor, who is not their own blood
>One might even twist things a little and argue Nightmare Moon disappearing from history was a coverup (i.e. censorship by the sovereign)
But then there are a lot of principles that either don't make sense or are irrelevant in the context of the setting. I cannot think of a reason ponies would try to overthrow their monarchy one way or another. Much of the day-to-day life feels very regional and leaning towards self-organizing rather than mandates from above. Bits seem to be the universal legal tender, but taxation is never really discussed (but then why would it be).
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>>42907162
Equestria NEEDS a detailed tax policy for maximum immersion, and so I can write a revolution to overthrow the monarchy
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>>42907165
Okay Sunset.
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>>42907162
Since Equestria is just a lazy horse-themed reskin of America it's safe to assume its tax policy works the same way.
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>>42907173
Does its healthcare work the same way?
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>>42907178
I don't see why not, the few times they showed hospitals in the show they did.
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>>42907178
Nobles keep trying to cancel Celestiacare
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>>42907179
But Dash did a two week stay in a hospital and doesn't live in a cardboard box.
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>>42907187
she has Elements of Harmony Royal Insurance with 0 copay
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It's free healthcare unless you're an orphan.
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>>42907165
There must be something, since there are clearly public amenities. Transport (the train), postal services (Derps), public healthcare. Hell, they even had funds to build a library in Ponyville, an otherwise tiny village.
On the other hand, parts of the rural economy seem to be informal. Even the main six is pretty varied:
>Twiggles is probably on a stipend from the Princesses, I can't imagine she's paid for her library work
>Pinkie is employed and/or Pinkie
>Rara is an entrepreneur
>Dash before becoming a Wonderbolt is pretty much a gig worker
>AJ has the family business
>how the hell does Flutters even afford things
Of these I can see two, maybe three who actually pays taxes.
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>>42907201
>Mane 6 tax audit arc
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>>42907201
>>Dash before becoming a Wonderbolt is pretty much a gig worker
She's the head of the weather team in town, and Fluttershy was stated to be in charge of doing work with animals at the behest of the mayor and stuff so presumably she's got some sort of employment deal with the local government.
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>>42907211
Fair, fair.
>She's the head of the weather team in town
Equestria must have some crazy strong workers' rights laws.
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>>42907205
Jimmy has stories on this premise.
They are ongoing and highly amusing.
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>>42907224
>Equestria must have some crazy strong workers' rights laws.

Thank Triangle Shirtwaist and his efforts to make all the earth ponies unionize, all them years ago.
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>>42907199
>Scootaloo's condition is actually perfectly treatable it's just that nobody has ever bothered to get her checked out
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>>42907201
I wonder if Equestria's tax forms have a box you have to tick if you are, or have ever been Pinkie.
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Would you look at that. A 2016 story has finished.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/320509/as-a-family
Never lose hope, Anons.
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>>42907258
>2016 was a decade ago
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>>42907260
No it
Wasn't...
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>>42907258
Then there's still a chance for Unseen, Unheard. Please god.
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>>42907293
anon, the ponies are getting old...
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>>42907305
Aren't we all, buddy, aren't we all.
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>>42907330
not me old man hahahahahaha
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>>42907363
Missing the "seamstress" Discworld reference opportunity.
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>>42907392
Thank you for adding to my Rarislander vocabulary and reminding me of another thing I should read before wasting any more time on longfics.
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>>42907421
I can't believe you haven't read any Discworld. It's like required reading for any quirky horsewords writer.
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>>42907433
I've never read that and never plan on doing so
same with homestuck or whatever it's called
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>>42907441
Thou meanst Homosuck.
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>>42907441
Oh no, stay away from Homestuck, but Discworld is actually good. There's a reason they're classics.
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>>42907201
You know all of those can just be private enterprises right?

>I can't imagine she's paid for her library work
>implying she does it for free
I refuse to accept twilight being on the same level as a janny
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>>42907201
>how the hell does Flutters even afford things
By being the head of an army of small rodents that's constantly feeding her bits that they steal from other pony's homes.
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>>42907857
I bet she has a deal with at least some crows to bring her bits every now and then.
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>>42907201
It is abstracted by the whimsy of the setting, and trying to pick it apart kills the magic. And that's not a problem with the world, but with you asking the question. If you end up thinking about Equestria's tax policy, that's a sign you went astray somewhere along the way.
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>>42907919
but how am I supposed to write my grimdark sufferfic about the tyranny of the sun without oppressive taxation to fuel canterlot orgies?
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>>42907258
>253k words. How do people have the patience to put something like this together
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>>42907949
That's about how much I wrote this year.
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>>42907949
>>42907956
Feels herculean. I just submitted my first story and it's barely over 2k words. Felt like a Hell of a task just to get that much out.
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>>42907965
how the fuck is 2k a lot, I accidentally write that much when I'm trying to plan an outline
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>>42907970
I'm pretty sure I just implied that it infact wasn't a lot, anon. I'm immediately questioning the quality of your writing if your reading comprehension's that poor.
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>>42907970
It's not really. It gets easier.
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>>42906113
>Though, in my defence, I got assigned fucking Student Six characters.
That kind of nightmare scenario is why I don't participate.

>>42907949
>>42907965
Agreed. I'm just shy of 150,000 words after several years of writing. I think it helps if you have some kind of structured goal in mind. I've got an anthology where each chapter is around 2,000 words, so I carefully monitor where I'm at and stop writing once I reach it. Next year, I'm aiming to have a story with chapters measuring about 5,000 words each.

>>42907970
I've got a question: How much of that do you keep? Basically everything I put down is the final draft by the time it leaves my mind through my fingertips, wordplay and everything. I rarely change something once it's outside of my mind beyond adding to it here and there.
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>>42907970
I dunno man, I've done that in a night easily for a oneshot.
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>>42907986
you implied it was herculean, and I implied if you think writing 2k words is herculean you should figure out what you're doing wrong
>>42908002
Most of it? If it's an outline for an arc it's basically set in stone, I only get bored with the overall story guideline sometimes because partway through I get an idea from an offhand line that would require me to set everything on fire and derail things.
>>42908013
yes? that's what I'm saying
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>>42908014
Not at all. Both of the anons I quoted were talking about writing 250k words, and I described that as herculean.
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>>42908014
>yes? that's what I'm saying
Right, which is why I'm saying "i dunno man". It's an agreement.
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>>42908021
250k words in a year is just under 1.5k words a day. That's pretty easy.
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>>42908029
If you divide it out like that, sure. But who's actually doing that? Almost 2k words a day, every day. What are they even writing?
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>>42908037
horse sex
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>>42908037
>What are they even writing?
Longer fics.
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>>42908029
My writing goal for next year is an average of 200 to 300 each day. No, 1,500 is a lot.
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>>42908051
That's because you never expand on your stories beyond describing the pictures and comics you commission, dude.
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>>42908040
That tracks.
>>42908041
Obviously. It just feels like an attempt to cut an accomplishment like that's legs out from under it. 250k is two-and-a-half average novel's worth of horse words. "That's 1.5k words a day, I wake up with that done" is reductive and meaningless, given that most people aren't doing that.
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>>42908120
To be fair, I've read plenty of sadfics that went so hard into mopiness they made me laugh.
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>>42908120
He's right. Redact your negative vote at once.
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>>42908054
Fact check: mostly false.

Let's see. I've written and published 39,554 words this year so far, and it's not looking like I'll get any more published before the year's end. Of those, 17,689 were commissions, 11,796 of those were for a single commission that's currently my single longest story; 11,774 were directly about artwork in short anthologies, as you've mentioned, although 1,995 of those were my Nightmare Night story with another 2,054 adding to it later; a measly 1,800 were my Flashfic submissions; 2,207 were a story for an art pack; and 6,084 were part of a trade.

What's your year on Fimfiction look like, lads?
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>>42908063
>most people are weak therefore we should pretend doing something simple is actually hard
Participation trophy mentality is a blight.
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>>42908171
Absolute nonsense. You're not actually responding to what I'm saying, you just dug a completely unrelated phrase out of your taint to try and be pithy towards. You are not a serious person.
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>>42908170
>What's your year on Fimfiction look like, lads?
Apparently I really like Luna.
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>>42908170
>What's your year on Fimfiction look like, lads?
45k words on my Twinkie horror.
9k for the anthology (RIP)
9k(?) for Jinglemas
2k for an unfinished chapter of an ongoing fic.
I suppose I've had worse years.
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>>42907970
Eh, on a good night i can do that in a few hours
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>>42908029
I guess my question is how do you keep a coherent story going that long without it feeling like it drags on needlessly
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>>42908264
Don't be mentally stunted?
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>>42908229
The fuck are you writing that much, that's like Rune Scribe slop level.
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>>42908670
That might be the meanest thing anyone ever said to me...
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>>42908229
Great!
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Alright, I need some opinions.
Yeah, Student Six. Nobody cares.
I just want to know if these summaries sound like something that would catch your eye:

Short:
>A Hearth’s Warming Talent Showcase goes off the rails, and two shy hearts find they don't need perfection... Just each other.

Long:
>This Hearth’s Warming, the School of Friendship is putting on a Talent Showcase. And for some students, it’s more than just a chance to perform.
>Sandbar sees the Showcase as the perfect opportunity to finally express something he’s never quite been able to say out loud. Meanwhile, Yona is preparing her own performance, torn between the powerful traditions she loves and the quiet worry that being herself might be too much.
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>>42908795
No, it wouldn't.
It's a Students story.
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>>42908795
Yeah, that ain't bad. If I was into yaks I'd read it.
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There any fic making fun of Pinkie Pie having shit like her own train and her own car and other stuff from the toy line?
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>>42908229
8k story
3k story
2k story
3k May Pairings contest entry
5x1k 1000 words contest entries
8k Jinglemas story
~5k unpublished work
So 34k words total. Not an impressive quantity, but I'm happy with what I wrote.
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>>42907187
She worked for the government's weather team then later joins the military, so she's firmly on Celestia's teat.

>>42907201
>Transport (the train)
It's never confirmed to be run by the government. Trains were originally private. If we're basing it off the tech, that era of train is firmly in the corporate times.

>public healthcare
AJ goes to the Gala to try and get money to pay for Granny Smith's hip surgery, so at the very least there's still a private component to the healthcare system.

Education might even be private as well, given Celestia and the government appears to have no power over the EEA and its regulation of the school system. Though it is debatable whether the EEA is just some kind of private accreditation organization like the College Board or something more powerful.

>>42907258
>what could be so exciting that it takes 256k to tell?
>who's Scootaloo's dad?
I'm understanding why it has a 29% retention rate from the original story.

>>42907965
Better be dialogue-heavy. The narrator can blow through 2k like it's nothing.
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>>42908795
I'm the target audience (Yonabar fan and student 6 apologist) and I would read it based off of that description.
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>>42909084
Public healthcare not covering optional surgeries is standard fare, and they still come out much cheaper.
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Happy Horsemas, everyone!
>/FSBC/

What do you mean I'm late? Impossible! At least the post is.

>A Canterlot Carol
I was positively surprised! Whom the Princesses... was a good (or even very good) story that I liked a lot less than it deserved, in part for the pretty unpleasant humanization (worse, making them br*tish!) and bureaucratization of Equestria. This still has traces of that because we're in the same setting, but owing perhaps to the Hearth's Warming nature of the fic or it being a shorter oneshot, that nonsense is vastly reduced here—the worst you get is the zebras=blacks thing, but that can be blamed on the show. Oh, and this fic does close to a 180 on the role of the Princesses. Whom the Princesses(...) was downright disrespectful, and this is not. Very good.
Comedy is also reduced, which I'm sure would be a problem for those who enjoyed the very br*tish humor of the original, but I wasn't one of those people, so for me, it's all improvement. In short, I liked this fic a whole lot. The author is a very capable writer, his idea was good, and the execution leaves nothing to be desired. Almost nothing. While the tone of the story is very Hearthswarm'y, and the big conversation with the zebra ambassador actually works super nicely for a "moral" of a Christmas story, the last scenes of the fic are a bit underwhelming. Yes, I can see what he was going for, but having both Celly and him end up working and alone on the holiday in an attempt to say that this is also good and a valid way of spending Hearth's Warming... sorry, I disagree. It soured me a little on the fic, but it didn't ruin the 95% of the story before it. Good fic! Like a 7/10, because the writing is really excellent. I am writing these parts as I read the fics, and I'd expect this to be either the best or second-best story now. We'll probably see in a second, when I read TD's fic next.

>Our Gifts
Have we been unlucky, or is The Descendant wildly overrated? Maybe I shouldn't start with such a controversial take, but this is pretty medium. Not a bad fic, like a 5/10, but this really isn't doing it for me. The Hearth's Warming atmosphere is pretty good. It is also evoked in a somewhat forceful way, but alright, for the holidays I'll permit that. It's just that... the character voices are pretty mediocre, trending towards bad. And for a fluff Slice of Life fic, messing up characterizations in this way takes away a lot of points. The writing is pretty good—far better than the site's expected level in 2012—but the story is sort of fine, and the characters somewhat ruin it. Also, I think his interpretations of some of them are straight-up awful (like making Shining dumb), and having such direct sex allusions in an E story is also wrong.
The emotional climax of the story was also just okay. Exactly opposite of the previous fic, I came here with a pretty good opinion of the writer and walked away disappointed. I won't downvote it, but I hesitate to leave an updoot on it!

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>>42909554
(2/2)

>Santa
Five letters in, I'm sold! Amazing. Away with all the formatting bullshit done by people who want to look cool and postmodernist and shit. THIS is great! The effort into personalizing each letter (the look, errors, style, formatting, etc.) elevates this into the status of a great fic! The character voices are excellent, and the fic gets probably the most points for uniqueness that I've given a story. The ending is a little abrupt, but I can't honestly dock any points for that, with all the effort already in the story. Excellent!
10/10, go straight into Favorites; no objections will be accepted. This fic humbles TD's story so badly it's not even funny. Holy shit.

>Stories
The second latest comment under this is by a deleted no-story default pic account saying simply, "What utter shite." And look, while mr. Jonathan is close to being "objectively" wrong, I do kind of wish I had the clarity of purpose that he seemed to live his life with.
Instead, I'll say that I disliked reading this. I won't downboop it because I don't think it's a bad story, but I kind of sort of hated the idea of this. This is basically a collection of simple "dark" stories meant to take apart old pony myths and the romanticization of them. And the author does this by submerging us in a pretty bad Shitquestria, kept "compatible with general canon". Awful, really. Also, it should maybe be obvious, but I don't mind reading some bad AU Equestria fics, as long as it's done for a valid reason. For instance, Synthetic Bottled Sunlight had some issues, but its (exaggerated, even) shitquestria wasn't one of them. Or the infamous ToD, where the absolute moral corruption of DT serves as a driving force in the first part of the story and is later— well, spoilers! If we're being generous, I'd guess that the "point" here is dark humor, as a juxtaposition of how bad things were then and how they are now, so much so that the Princesses and Cadance don't even see the problem? In either case, ew. I couldn't bring myself to read the third one in this mini-series.

[VOTING]
Well, back to the our regularly-scheduled program we go!
Some suggestions:
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/450660/trouble-in-tiatarta
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/37820/lines-and-webs
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/76931/the-monster-below
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/3479/the-games-we-play
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/755/on-a-cross-and-arrow
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>>42907258
Gives me inspiration to start writing my 2014 story...
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>>42909598
Share the plot, anon!
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Pet theory: all works over 500,000 words will be considered by someone to be a masterpiece. This is because the only people who got to the end were true lovers.
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>>42909554
A Canterlot Carol
>dimensional entities inconveniencing canterlot bureaucrats
Fucking booooring, way too many of these
>EQUESTRIA TO GROVEL BEFORE ZEBRAS
Oh, so is this a hidden entry into the nigger contest you fags can't shut up about?
>going to the zeeb embassy in full blackface
fucking kek (although there's no mention of it in the story so I guess he had time to take a shower or something)
Also the zebra's importance on words was kino. Blueblood's word is that of a stray dog barking and the word of a princess is the voice of god
Well pretty good. I thought he had real plans but I guess not unless his plan the entire time was to gaslight himself into thinking he was walking home when he was actually going to check on the princess since he expected her to be working just like he was or something. I'm just glad something other than the chimney entity happened and that was just a minor detail

The most inappropriate
Hurricane's fall
>The other foals at the academy would bully her, as was expected and proper.
Kek
>Thunder Hooves the dragonslayer
Kino derpy ancestry and spartan tier civilization.
Wedding night jitters
Not sure why Celestia is such a little bitch in front of Platinum. Even luna said she's millenia old already. And this problem extends into the 3rd story as well, but based Luna for trying to get Celestia to not get married and that the ponies will eventually find peace themselves and even if the marriage goes through that they will die anyway.
Oracle of the Moon
>Celestia's story just trolls them all even harder
kek. I like how the stories were linked together in the fic by all of the princesses just trolling the M6. Literally none of these stories are nice, and they cut Luna off before the happy ending

Yes ab tiash
Alright, this is pretty kino, especially the drawings. And the variations of hoof/mouth/magic writing are great.
>Dear Santa I put traps around my fireplace
>"Celelestia help me if I get my hooves on him"
Kek
>sweetie sending glitter bombs in the mail
Holy based
>cmc and aj save Christmas from becoming a corporate hellhole in equestria
Kino. I'm glad I heeded the warning on my ereader and read it online. Santa's letter to bloom was kino. I feel like this is what a good christmas story is all about, purely focusing on the friends and family around Apple Bloom. This was definitely my favorite fic of the bunch.
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>>42909712
I think you can easily dial that number back to like 200 thousand or so.
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>>42909554
Our gifts
>sweet story about twilight reminiscing about being a foal while her family spends the holidays together
>cadence shining scene: i think im gonna have to fall asleep with my cock buried in you
Fuck off with this, it's waaay too common. You can have these two in the same fic and not get horny with it. It destroys the atmosphere in at least 90% of the fics they're in. Can cadence not hear the distressed door opening that shining is currently paying attention to?
>... her great little guy.
Kek I saved this one for last because I thought it would be the best, but ehh. Some nice visuals, but too much sappy actions. Constantly rubbing and touching on each other and that's not even in reference to the hornyness. Spike is constantly petting Twilight and if he isn't then he's petting his own frills or his tail. The scene where Twilight chased him around 'trying' to get his candy cane was better than all the weird petting scenes, and the hugging was fine too. The author just seemed a little too focused on the skinship. Also it was hard to tell how old they were supposed to be. We eventually get a definitive number, but their behavior seemed all over the place to me.

>>42909554
>Whom the Princesses
Oh is that the other dimensional entities inconveniencing canterlot bureaucrats fic?
>While the tone of the story is very Hearthswarm'y, and the big conversation with the zebra ambassador actually works super nicely for a "moral" of a Christmas story, the last scenes of the fic are a bit underwhelming.
Yeah I'd agree. While it is certainly selfless, it's not exactly Christmassy to just isolate yourself and do work all night. Celestia doesn't want to spend time with Luna? Ouch. The MC even said it was the prettiest night of the year or something. And clearly it's common if this guy knew exactly where Celestia was going to be and what she was doing.
>the writing is really excellent.
True
>but this is pretty medium. Not a bad fic, like a 5/10
The kids are saying 'mid' these days. Get with the times 'unc'
>The Hearth's Warming atmosphere is pretty good.
Yeah, that's the fic's strong point. When the characters calm the fuck down and the scene focuses on their surroundings, it's great. The lights, the windowsill scene, the living room and fireplace. Very nice.
>the character voices are pretty mediocre
Agreed, and it really is pretty much all 6 characters
>having such direct sex allusions in an E story is also wrong. The emotional climax of the story was also just okay.
yup
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>>42909795
That's just a decent sized novel though, that's not that long.
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>>42909555
>Five letters in, I'm sold! Amazing.
Absolutely agreed. I had no idea what this fic was and the epub literally just tells you to fuck off and read the fic somewhere else kek. 1 letter in and I knew it was my favorite
>The effort into personalizing each letter (the look, errors, style, formatting, etc.) elevates this into the status of a great fic!
Yup, AJ writing Celelestia was a highlight. Even something like that adds so much world building to the fic, I bet it's not uncommon for a decent chunk of ponies to have pretty common writing errors like that and somehow it adds to the ponyness of it all. And holy shit Sweetie Belle's letters were beyond extra and yet I loved it. Especially when she double's down. This style is incredible honestly. Letting SB have the same errors as the other cmc but a vastly better presentation is perfect. And AJ was just a more mature AB style that even kept some of the errors, kino.
>10/10, go straight into Favorites
definitely
>I won't downboop it because I don't think it's a bad story, but I kind of sort of hated the idea of this.
kek, the princesses just like to do a little trolling
>guess that the "point" here is dark humor, as a juxtaposition of how bad things were then and how they are now, so much so that the Princesses and Cadance don't even see the problem? In either case, ew. I couldn't bring myself to read the third one in this mini-series.
Celestia just trolls them the hardest, her story is about Luna creating Sombra and then Cadence tries to get in a fight with Luna. Definitely absurd and it really just never should've mentioned anything about canon compatibility for this short of a fic. Just let the readers read the fic.
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>>42908170
Between two stories, I published a whole 10k words this year. Took part in one contest, I even allegedly won something, but those fuckers ghosted me.
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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/586257/winter-glimpse-finding-the-perfect-pets

Huh, new Nyx fic.
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>>42909555
I vote for cross and arrow.
Though I was the anon who voted for tiatarta to be on the starter kit my opinion of it has soured a bit and I’m interested in reading an old rule63 fic like this. Plus Tiatarta is a fic in the middle of an incomplete series, and reading the previous short fic would be necessary for context.
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>>42909918
Meh.
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>>42909792
You've finished posting just as I was leaving, but I'm back now.

>way too many of these
I think it was just a reference to the main fic.
>>EQUESTRIA TO GROVEL BEFORE ZEBRAS
That scandal was what I meant when I complained about IRL-themed garbage, but thankfully the fic didn't really go there and instead went with zebra lore.

>Kino derpy ancestry and spartan tier civilization.
Yeah, my problem is just that trying to tie it to canon FiM is bad.
>why Celestia is such a little bitch in front of Platinum
Because she has to be miserable for the fic. If she acted any more firmly, the story would have a good ending and it'd ruin what the fic was going for. Celestia HAS to be fucked by the Prince Faggot. I guess one thing I liked here was using the very good headcanon that C&L's princesshood is a title inherited from Platinum's line, and that Blueblood is also related to those.

>this is pretty kino
I also just barely dodged the e-reader bullet.

>>42909843
>Can cadence not hear the distressed door opening that shining is currently paying attention to?
She can, it just turns her on. She probably wanted Twilight to join them.
>The scene where Twilight chased him around 'trying' to get his candy cane was better
That was a nice scene.
>Oh is that the other dimensional (...)
It is. I don't blame you for not recognizing the OCs, but I do blame you for not realizing that it's the exact same setting and almost the same tone as that fic.
>Celestia doesn't want to spend time with Luna?
This was exactly the part that ruined the ending for me. McFaggot's lesson is bad and shame on the author for writing it like that (I get where he's coming from, but Christmas isn't the time), but it is sort of defensible as Hearth's Warming-themed, and it underscores his speech to the beeg zeeb. But Celestia working through Hearth's Warming is awful. It kind of makes sense in the story, with her trying to let him go home for the holiday (and these scenes are meant to show both of them spending the Hearth's Warming "together"), but writing this problem into a Christmas fic is poor taste.
>The kids are saying 'mid' these days.
Doesn't 'mid' actually mean that the thing in question is sort of bad? Like mediocre; perhaps even worse. 5/10 is almost average (and perhaps 5.5/10 would be even more appropriate), not really bad.
>pretty much all 6 characters
At least it's better than in Youth in the Garden, if not by much.

>>42909867
>the epub literally just tells you to fuck off and read the fic somewhere else
Ha ha, that was my experience, too. I opened the fic and the story immediately tells me to not do it. Well OK, I'll read it later, I guess.
>Celelestia
Please be patient with her; she's an earth pony. Sweebles' letters were really cute, too. And Scoots's writing being barely legible in terms of grammar and, well—
If I start listing it like that, I won't end until I quote the whole fic.
>This style is incredible honestly.
I don't remember being this impressed in a while.
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Magnifique
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>>42910597
What the fuck even is that Twilight
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>>42910597
Not a spark of joy behind those eyes. He's made it to Equestria, but at what cost.
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>>42910643
the cost of looking like an ugly gay metrosexual
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>>42910648
idk seems worth it
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>>42910648
>metrosexual
That species of hominid died out around 2012
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>>42910722
Ain't that the truth. Back in college in 2010 it was all the rage.
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>>42910597
In the movie adaptation he'll be played by Miles Teller
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>>42909303
Alright. Here it is. Maybe you can get some enjoyment out of it.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/586244/louder-than-words
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>>42910888
It should have become fanon that Sandbar died at a young age some time after the show ended and after he got together with Yona not because I hate the character but because there is no way in hell he is surviving yak sex.
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>>42909554
>Inappropriate Hearthswarming Stories
The most appropriate title of all!
I'm a fan of dark stories, and the tales themselves are interesting enough explorations of dark themes. I just find it hilarious that they're framed the way they are. Why everything? Hard Spartan societies, royal rape, mutilation and the rise of a tyrant. Happy Hearth's Warming, girls!
Honestly, this is just bad. If you like comfy pony, you'll be disgusted. If you like grimdark, you'll be bored by the framing device. If you like this kind of whiplash and tonal inconsitency... It's not really that good overall.
I mean, I don't hate it. But I won't call it good.

>Canterlot Carol
I don't like Ghost of Heraclitus writing style. I find it repelling.

>Apple Bloom
The quintessential Christmas fic. Fuck yeah.
Is it also the quintessential gimmick fic? I can't think of any other that does something unconventional with style that lands the way it does. It's just so earnest. Epistolary fics are nothing new. Using scans of actual letters is not unheard of. But man, the author really went out of his way to make every letter overflow character. It really feels like each character really is pouring their thoughts into the letter they wrote. Chef's kiss and all sorts of meme and clichés for praise.

>Our Gifts
Hey, speaking of a larger story containing some kernels of good.
I don't know. This feels like it could've been half as long while keeping all the highlights. Shining and Cadance's scene. General talks with Twi's parents. The heart to heart between Twilight and Spike.
Normally, I like fluff, and I like The Descendant. But this just didn't do it for me. I enjoyed the peaks, but everything else was meh.
How hilarious that we've read the worst stuff he has to offer.

Yeah, I was out all day. Sorry.
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>>42910906
Alicorn ascension for the sake of being durable enough for your spouse to fuck is the only type of sex plot in Equestria I'll accept.
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>>42910950
Weird preference but ok
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>>42909555
I was gonna vote for Monster Below, but I'll second >>42909937
Also, are we not gonna read a bunch of Jinglemas fics this time around?
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>>42910981
We already did that desu.
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>>42911036
joblestia...
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>>42910950
So, ___?
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>>42911093
Tried reading that recently and I genuinely could not get more than 2/3 of the way through it. I could only take so much of Celestia being a bumbling moron and Luna being a Machiavellian pedophile. Call me illiterate but it was honestly hard to tell sometimes whether or not the author was endorsing the awful shit Luna was doing. Seeking Power was better.
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>>42910888
>Username is Zaid ValRoa
Kek
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>>42911170
>spoiler
That fanfic was a good example of a fic which people in this general used to talk about a lot but now don’t. I remember being in this thread three years ago and it seemed there was a conversation about it every other thread. Also a good example of a fic people in this general had a superiority complex about liking.
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>>42911170
The donuts chapter does quite a lot to contextualize Celestia's actions and seeming inactions, I definitely wouldn't say she's written as a moron or any kind of bumbler. The only real exception is the premise (that she doesn't become Twilight's mentor), but I've already written about how the premise is impossible.

As for what Luna was doing, there were definitely some things that it was clear Forthwith was not endorsing, like Twilight's induction to hatred of Celestia. I would rather the story not have toed the line so closely, but in the end I don't think what Luna was doing was pedophilic. I know there are some posters here who assert that Celestia and Luna, due to their age, can only ever love each other, and I wonder if you're one of them. The story itself is not that ambiguous about Twilight understanding what it means to have sex with Luna (she can consent) and that she wants to have sex with Luna (she does consent).

I don't find the question of "if you say Twilight is 16 and write her more than half a decade older, is she 16?" to be very interesting, but there is another question in the story that is more interesting: Can an immortal raise her perfect mate? I think ___ answers it with "yes, but only in a fantasy." The thing that cinches it for me is that Twlight isn't coerced. Luna Rationally does both halves of making a perfect mate: she raises Twilight into her ideal partner while simultaneously predicting what Twilight's ideal partner is and transforming herself into that. In the end, Twilight could pursue a monogamous relationship with Twinkleshine. She doesn't, obviously, but Luna (by that point) clearly wouldn't make her stay.
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>pedophilia is when two adults
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>>42911317
I think it’s pretty fucked up to kill someone and then use their remains to grow a homunculus in a vat and then groom that homunculus from birth to be your perfect lover. I also do not condone incest.
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>>42911471
but that sounds great
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>>42911471
And you think Forthwith endorses all of that, or what?

Anyway, I agree that Sunset is a net negative on the fic, and that princest would've unnecessarily sucked a lot of the tension out of it.
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Year's about to end.
Will you try to increase your writing output before 2026 arrives?
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>>42912209
I'll certainly try.
I'm still mad I didn't get a chapter of my longfic out all year. I don't think I'll be able to do it, but it would be hilarious if I did.
I'll do my best, anyway.
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>muh ruining muh timeline bullshit
I have seen this in numerous fics involving things like time travel and parallel worlds and it makes no
sense if you think about it for five seconds why did people ever consider this a plot point that could be taken seriously?
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>>42912464
You're supposed to watch the show before reading the fics about it, and this is why.
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>>42912620
fanon > canon
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If you think about it, diverging from canon has a high risk of destroying the world because the author is likely to fail to step up to the task of writing a worthwhile alternate timeline, abandoning the fic.
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>>42912464
If time travel is a plot point i cannot take it seriously. It either opens up a can of worms that makes the plot utterly redundant or ends up being a waste of time
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>>42912836
yeah, there's certain McGuffins that create more problems than they solve, and require the chars to be idiots to have things work
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>>42912836
What if the variable passage of time was a plot point?
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>>42912861
find a better plot point
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>>42912836
>I have only ever read garbage and therefore cannot conceive of someone writing something well
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>>42912898
>I'm not like the other ponies!
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>>42912901
She's not like the other ponies.
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>>42913009
Oh, you were counting? When's the next milestone?
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>>42913297
As soon as you kill yourself.
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>>42913397
Oh well, easy come, easy go.
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>>42913397
ponies standing up are very huggable
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>>42914055
Fics about Luna and cheese?
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>>42912464
How does it not make sense? It's a pretty basic idea. You go back in time, fuck something up, and return to the present to see the fuck up had a domino effect. Or the opposite, you see a "bad" version of the future if you don't make the right choice in some upcoming decision.

A parallel/mirror universe is a distinct concept, in that its setting happened independently of the story and the protagonists' actions. They're just along for the ride and are usually trying to flee that continuity and return to theirs.

>>42912836
The main issue is authors don't write the whole story before posting. It's insanely hard to write a time travel plot and not have the whole thing planned out. It can run away from you really fast and start kicking up paradoxes real quick if you're not really anal about it.
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>>42909555
>>42909937
>>42910981
Right, so the next fic is On a Cross and Arrow:
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/755/on-a-cross-and-arrow
Week 1 we're reading the first 6 parts (chapters), the rest on week 2.
Holy early ID batmare! I've only read 5 three-digit ID stories before this one. I wonder if anything with a two-digit ID is any good.

>>42910981
>Jinglemas fics
They were still coming out at that time, but if there are enough decent-looking ones, we definitely could. I mean, it'll be a bit late for that in two weeks' time, but definitely still an option.

>>42910928
>interesting enough explorations of dark themes
Eh, are they? Maybe I'm being too hard on it due to the framing device being a complete miss for me and their lack of ponyness is more pronounced as a result, but they felt pretty cookie cutter'y.
>royal rape
To be desu, it's really not. Unlike similar situations in history, this Celestia has no obligations to the ponies (yet), and literally nopony is asking or forcing her to do it. She's not bound by duty nor station nor family to marry him; it is literally the consequence of her own plan that places her in this spot. She wanted to strike a deal with Platinum, heard the terms, and agreed to them. Definitely not a pretty situation, but calling it rape is very excessive.
>Is it also the quintessential gimmick fic?
Honestly, it might be. The amount of effort and soul put into this fic is so good. It'll for sure become my go-to gimmick fic. This having under 1k likes for a 2013 story is absolutely criminal!
>we've read the worst stuff he has to offer
I didn't dislike the fic, so I'm willing to give him one more chance. Especially since I remember Song of Syhlex (not in bookclub) being actually quite good.
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>>42914763
Well I already read the fic and I guess my earlier point is moot since this fic ALSO has an unfinished sequel. I’ll save my opinions on it for next week though.
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>>42915221
Why did she take a bite off the moon?
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>>42915368
Hungwy
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Oh, I'm featured. That's nice.
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>>42915368
Phenomenal cosmic flavor
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>>42915583
Hi, Pen Stroke.
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>>42915663
Not him, and no longer featured.
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>>42914763
wtf is this...
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>>42915663
Damn, even a Nyx fic isn't getting attention these days. Guess the fandom's really dead.



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