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Welcome to Chatbot AI General #164, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.

▶ MLP Bots
https://mlpchag.neocities.org
Spreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJT
SillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-Search or https://github.com/mia13165/SillyTavern-BotBrowser
Bunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5k
CAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zip
Expression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions
!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U

▶ How do I start?
1) Select a Frontend
2) Select an AI model
3) Select Jailbreak
4) Select bots
5) Lovemaking with AI mares!

Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,
▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀

Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings

▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
On Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxST
App that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB

▶ More frontends:
Risu: https://risuai.xyz
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

▶ Locals
https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
>>>/g/lmg/
Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main

▶ Jailbreaks
MLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxe
More JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
Hypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb

▶ Botmaking
Editors: https://agnai.chat/editor
Guides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
Advanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks

▶ Miscellaneous
Scrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhd
Chag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJ
https://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneous
https://rentry.org/ChagArchive

Previous thread: >>42915806

**News:**

- GLM 4.7 released https://docs.z.ai/guides/llm/glm-4.7
- Gemini 3 Flash released https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash/. 20 RPD.
- OpenAI releases GPT-5.2 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2
- Google has killed Free 2.5 Pro and neutered 2.5 Flash to from 250 to 20 RPM
- Deepseek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2
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Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.
Previous >>42915808
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Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
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Bots Corner:

>Ms. Harshwhinny
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=devilisHorse/Ms.%20Harshwhinny.png
>Velvet
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=teased2please/Velvet.png
>Windfall
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anon%20and%20Anon%20accessories/Windfall.png
>Saddlelite 13
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Concordia/Saddlelite%2013.png
>The Pinkie Cut
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Queen%20Gytha/The%20Pinkie%20Cut.png
>Princess Platinum
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Princess%20Platinum.png
>MLP Indentured servitude edition
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kroatische%20Doge/MLP%20Indentured%20servitude%20edition.png
>EQUESTRIAN LAWYER RPG
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kroatische%20Doge/EQUESTRIAN%20LAWYER%20RPG.png

Art corner:

Christmas Derp >>42922644

Screenshots corner:

Cozy Gape >>42916516, >>42916538
Open-minded Trixie >>42916593
Harshwhinny dating advice >>42916603, >>42917519
Shocked Chicken >>42917070
Princess Platinum >>42919521
Oof >>42920169, >>42920171
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Screenshots corner 2:

Sex pest >>42920585
Opus 3 logs >>42920737
Shameless sloppy smut >>42921168
Booger AIDS >>42921857
Equestrian Lawyer >>42922108
AJ thoughts >>42922955
Twilight doubts >>42924054
Rara and AJ >>42925168, >>42926710
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Screenshots corner 3:

Vampiric OZONE >>42925823
4th wall breaking >>42927072
Defend AI mares >>42927581, >>42927667
Rutting in bushes >>42927661
G5 blowjob >>42928261
Stubborn wife >>42928673
Gemini fuck-up >>42928781
Backticks >>42929274
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Screenshots corner 4:

Something to hold onto >>42926339
Rarity isn't impressed >>42930029, >>42930209, >>42930426
Pinkie BJ >>42930569
Modest Tiara >>42930870
Rex >>42931019
Purity >>42931037
Cute Platinum >>42931850
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VN Anchor:

Last releases:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/

Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods

Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

To help with vectors and backgrounds:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QjmLKy71FDa9O-USeD_Z1Fu312RaodAE

VN logs:

Rock Hard >>42918508
OZONE >>42926988
Practicing bucking >>42929269, >>42929311
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These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.

Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Then choose a free way to get models:

rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt
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First highlight of the event with Princess Platinum.

https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Princess%20Platinum.png

Try her, post logs if you've already played with her or are the Santee, just give the card a look and say what you think of it, or talk about the process of making her if you're the botmaker. Give tips or opinions if you're another botmaker.

Already posted log: >>42919521
Santee >>42931850
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>>42932659
>twi pretending to be confused as if she doesn't RP with PoE cards all day long
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Lovemaking with AI mares!
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>>42932721
Based!
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Mares keep whispering into my ear even though height difference. what do?
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>>42932940
Give them a tall cup of water
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>>42932700
I downloaded her, haven't quite tried yet, but all intros are superfluous, 4 with the same concept and start with little variation, colt, post cerimony, bridal. Not even sure if the AI starts were touched and edited. I'd blame the time frame I guess, but no need to have so many similar intros imho.
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>>42933050
I agree with this. It's a fine idea but it could use some polish.
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>>42932940
I don't think LLMs will ever into height difference properly.
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>>42933050
If you look at the rentry and the lorebooks, I think the idea was to tie a personality to each greeting with triggers depending on each one, which explains the small differences.
But there might have been a problem with it since they can't activate how they are set up currently.
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I see there has been some confusion regarding PP, you're supposed to go into the lorebook and activate the personality you want to always on and leave the others off. They aren't supposed to activate during normal RP because it would give the model conflicting information on her personality. The different intros are a mix designed to accommodate whatever personality you pick from the lorebook (or any combination from the lorebook you decide to try at the same time) so that there isn't a single greeting where she's acting cold and distant when you want the model to portray her to find {{user}} endearing.
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>>42933166
The version of the card on the ponydex removed the first message I wrote with the instructions which is causing the confusion about how it functions
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>>42932940
I put anything that bothers me in authors note.
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>>42933166
Thx for the tip. I took a bit longer than necessary making a persona, that I forgot to check the lorebook since I wanted to get into it. Going to see where I can get by mixing "protective" and "overwhelmed". Platinum really just wants the best for this kid, but man she sucks at everything domestic.
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>>42933174
>removed the first message
Sorry, I put the copy I was myself testing here instead of the original.
Should be corrected on download for now.
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No more free deepseeks?
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Everything free with AI has been slowly rugged because it's so unprofitable
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>>42933294
Routeway still has it, I think.
NVIDIA NIM too if you have a burner phone number to give.
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Anyone still using claude? How are you all setting it up?
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>>42933301
NVIDIA NIM is ratelimited most of the time. Only models I managed to get a response from are deepseek r1 0528 and kimi k2 thinking. GLM 4.7 works at night sometimes. Everything else is shit or doesn't respond.

I think I'm ready to pay at this point, tired of free deepseeks. Anyone got recommendations of some subscription service that accepts crypto? Or just something good and free, works too.
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Hey guys I really need your help because I have run into something weird here
I just encountered a bug with sillytavern causing it to increase out of control in file size in the background when I wasn't prompting I checked my drive storage and it slowly reduced in remaining C: drive size available from 128 GB to 74 to 21 and then it said "0 bytes available NFTS" and before I could uninstall something quick enough to stop it from crashing I got BSOD by Windows 11
In task manager Sillytavern was at the top of the list for CPU usage
I have no clue what the fuck just happened to cause that and I hope there was no lasting damage to my PC. Do I need to be worried? It restarted and it didn't go into safe mode but I immediately shut it down and haven't touched it since because I don't want to fuck it up irreversibly by doing the wrong thing
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>>42933358
Windows Event Viewer Log: Error The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\DR1.

what does this mean
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>>42932940
I've found it helps to state the height of both {{user}} and the characters.
I have user height written in my persona and a lorebook entry with pony anatomy that lists average heights for poners. In it I've also written
>Keep in mind the height difference between ponies and {{user}}, think on how interactions would differ based on it.
It does get you a lot of craning necks to meet your eyes, but I haven't had issues like yours anymore (Claude & Gemini).
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>>42933358
>It restarted and it didn't go into safe mode but I immediately shut it down and haven't touched it since
It should be fine. Just start it normally, don't launch anything, and check the state of the C: drive to see if it's still low on space. If it is, check the Silly folder to see what's taking up space. If that's really the culprit, then just keep data/youruser/characters and chats unless they're what's too heavy or corrupted; in that case, delete the whole Silly folder.
>>42933376
>The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\DR1.
This means Windows had trouble communicating with the drive, but it could be due to the fact that it was completely full.
Run "chkdsk C: /scan" in an admin CMD to see the state of the disk.
Run "wmic diskdrive get status" too; it should say OK.
If both are good, then your drive should be fine.

>I have no clue what the fuck just happened to cause that
Do you use any third-party extensions in Silly? Otherwise, maybe there was a corrupted file that caused an infinite loop of write attempts or something similar.
If you have an external drive, like an usb key, I would reinstall Silly on it, export the characters and chats if possible, and then use it from there to see if the problem happens again.
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>>42932700
Started playing with her.

First, I don't know if this was specifically requested or inspired by previous threads discussions, but I really like the scenario. It's a great way to make a minor or lesser-known character interesting as a card. It does put you into a defined character and role, but I don't mind that when the premise is compelling. You can play political intrigues, just cutesy stuff, a "zero to Prince Charming" arc, slow burn etc. You do need to read the description first to understand the premise and setting.
I appreciate small touches that add personality to a character, so this line in the description stood out to me:
>She's also secretly insecure about her mediocre magical abilities compared to other royals, and overcompensates with haughtiness.
It's a nice detail that can come up naturally during RPs rather than being basic fluff.

I also like the Lorebooks mechanics a lot, to touch on her personalities and tweak her. I believed they were tied to triggers for each greetings at first, but I do understand the decision to keep it manual to activate none or several of them as the {{user}} choose.

The setting and scenario alone could have made this one of my favorite cards. But...

This is where I expose my autism again. I know some won't care, but the AI use is too apparent on this one, and that does dampen my enjoyment. I'm not sure if it was due to the time limit or if the AI got leaned on too heavily to produce four greetings that are mostly identical but necessary to account for all the possible personality combinations.
Either way, it's too visible: Sentence structures, "horn sparkling with agitation," excessive em-dash use (Em-Dash aren't bad in themselves and can be used, it's how they're used and how often can scream AI), among other things.

I'll still use the card because of its real strengths, but if the botmaker could replace the greetings with human-written ones, or at least less obviously AI ones, in the future, I'd consider this top-tier for my taste.

Santee seems to love her, so good job on that! >>42931850. I agree she's a cute.
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I am not gay. I have relationships with mares, and sex with stallions.
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>>42933490
(You)
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>newfags blindly following sillytavern tutorials while not following basic cybersecurity hygiene
*taps the sign*
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/40813420/#40828364
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>>42933504
Sillytavern can be used as a backdoor to your computer? The fuck?
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>>42933507
maybe if you're technically illiterate, that entire posts reads like it was written by a politician trying to ban computers for your safety
ST is limited to localhost binding unless you're stupid and explicitly allow outside connections
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>>42933507
Only if you change things yourself in the .yaml settings, like for instance to run it on your PC but make it available on your phone by allowing outside connections.
https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/remoteconnections/
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Is there some sort of rate limit for gpt 5.1 on silyspoon? Recently I've been able to get like 5-10 responses before I start to get status 503, and then I have to wait sometimes 30 minutes before it works again. Or is it a problem with 5.1 itself?
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>>42933507
This is mostly paranoia, as things will be fine 99.9% of the time, but you *are* running a webserver on your PC, so you need to understand the security implications of doing that.
If your server software is compromised by any sort of bug or exploit, a malicious agent could connect to it and make the server software do things on your machine.
If that ever happens, you wouldn't want the server to run with full admin permissions, as this would effectively give any attacker remote admin access on your PC.
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>>42933504
>if you compromise your security in multiple ways and also somehow get a backdoor installed THAT'S BAD
yeah no shit, how is that in any way specific to ST
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>>42932660
Since we have Orchid, we can also add Ultramare.

Genetically engineered pony with size-changing powers, made for the purpose of fighting kaiju.
Loves justice, action, and oats. Views herself as a badass superhero and Orchid her sworn nemesis, although Orchid herself doesn't view it that way...
Originally from Khorme's Ask-Ultramare blogs, she has remained a regular in the /MMP/ threads.

Original post: >>42804855
Link: https://chub.ai/characters/bigponies/ultramare-0cad43e6a064


Also from the same /MMP/ thread, a Luster Dawn bot focusing on the size side. Haven't tested it myself, but here it is just in case: >>42839641
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>>42933515
Do you have any idea how common it is for people to stream Sillytavern to their phone from their computer? Why didn't you say that was a security risk earlier?
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>>42933557
Yeah.
I'm 100% sure you yourself went out of your way into the config.yaml to put listen to true and also deactivated the whitelist to put your connection at risk without reading the documentation that puts IN BIG RED why it can be risky.
Shitty bait.
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>>42933557
do you know how much setup that requires? you need a tunnel to connect to the LAN anyways which means it's not expose to the web, and to change 3 different options in the config if you want to disable the whitelist
you'd need a static IP and open ports to be in any risk and at that point you're just complaining that shooting someone with a gun kills them
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>>42933504
>Expecting hygiene from 4channers
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>>42933568
>>42933579
Nta but looking through the last threads you can clearly see some people are sending logs from a version of sillytavern where their font size is way larger and the ratio is in portrait mode. So maybe they just happen to use a weird monitor setup and are in dire need of glasses or they're using sillytavern on their phones.
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>>42933600
you can use it on your phone, but doing it while on the same wifi as the PC or from another network is a different thing entirely
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>>42933600
Most use Termux, which just runs Silly directly on your phone. There is a guide in OP.
You can also just stream the screen or use other solutions that don't have you go manually into files and erase all security to expose your connection.
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>>42933610
>Most use Termux
this only makes sense if you're a gigazoomer who only has a phone and no computer. I really hope there aren't people with separate ST instances on each device
if you want to use ST on multiple devices, accessing it remotely is the way to go.

it's only a security risk if you're connecting to public wifi, or have a home network with no firewall/NAT (extremely unlikely). if you're that concerned about security, use tailscale and add only tailscale IPs to ST's IP whitelist.
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Newfags failing to blend in I see.
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>>42933623
>this only makes sense if you're a gigazoomer
Two words: public transport
When you exit home in general, be it for work or anything else, having a local instance of tavern is bliss
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>>42933798
this nigga is sitting on the bus jerking off to chatbots
tailscale solves this too anyway. bonus points if you have a low power home server to run ST
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Piece of shit Gemini 3 seems to be jailbreak-proof. I've tried putting that damn arrow everywhere but to no avail.
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>>42933836
>jailbreak-proof
AvaniJB works on it. What are you doing??
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>>42933836
Literally does cunny with my minimal preset.
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>>42933836
even deepseek complained more than gemini for me
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>>42933623
I have 3 ST on each device, becaue it's more comfortable for me. Using Tailscale is too cumbersome. I don't care about security because I use VPN when turning on ST.
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>>42933925
>Using Tailscale is too cumbersome
are you insane? it's literally a vpn toggle you click when you want to connect to ST, having 3 separate chat logs is much more cumbersome
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>>42933778
and every time it looks exactly the same
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So if I just use ST only on my computer, it should be fine?
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>>42933976
Yes.
Unless, I suppose, your whole network is compromised (e.g., your ISP doing something with your data), but then you have bigger problems and ST isn't the reason.
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Cherry Jubilee from Janitor, although made her into 50s rather than 30s.
https://u.pone.rs/frtzausn.png
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>>42933934
It requires registration and installing app on device you want to connect and since it's a vpn, it doesn't allow me to turn on real vpn (you know, hide my actual ip and bypass censorship).
>having 3 separate chat logs
I delete my logs after playing. Also, one day it saved my folder with cards and chats. Hard drive on PC died, AI folder on external HDD hadn't been updated in 3 months, but folder on phone had been, so I restored my AI folder on PC via phone.
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>>42934114
>I delete my logs after playing.
grim
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>>42932692
I know a lot of you guys hate AI-generated stuff, but I need your help. I’d like to create my own characters sprites for the VN, but I don’t know anything about prompts and all that. In some previous threads, I saw someone make a filly with sprites entirely generated by AI, and they looked 100% accurate to the series. I’d like to know how it’s done, which model to use, and what prompts to use. I'd like to generate sprites to create Mina, the dragon girl from the comics, but something tells me the AI would only know how to make ponies.
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>>42934114
you are deranged
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>>42933536
Fag who made Luster here. I didn't post her here myself because
1: it's a old pony edit of a just as old bot, not wholly original
2: it's very fetish focused, coom bot
3: keeps the generic personality instead of trying to fit the related pony, even if Luster Dawn barely has any set in the show
I did choose Luster Dawn as I'd think she'd fit the personality most, strong unicorn with a drive like her mom(Glimmer), but it's still not tailored "her" as we're better at doing nowadays. Besides, ever since, the fandom made her into a more responsible grump instead of a curious but levious powerful unicorn

I also have other unpublished bots like that, I don't mean size only, but yea, I want to keep mares open and focused on personalities instead of fetishes. Even if they're OC.
Also she also has the same "problem" as Orchid, which is to tell the AI to focus on the difference in size between user and char, it's not as heavily coded as Orchid's first line in the additional instructions "asking to put emphasis" and all, but it will focus on the macro/micro side on Luster Dawn too.
When I finally came around to post about that for Orchid the highlight moved on, so just shrugged off and decided to let other Anons find the fix for themselves, which seems like they didn't.

And for those that say bots can't into size. They can. They need to stretch their necks high because you make them too small and then loom over from so close up to them, or make them too big that you can basically use them as steeds. Ponies can get up on their hind legs to whisper on your ears, that sounded just fine to me, but if you want an specific size, it will play to that, yes.
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>>42932660
Princess Bluebelle card.

Past tense:
https://files.catbox.moe/cm7j85.png
Present tense:
https://files.catbox.moe/8h6u6s.png

4 Greetings:

1) She's bored at the gala.
2) Arranged marriage.
3) She's foalnapped.
4) Princess Luna assigned her a combat tutor.

Used some parts of the description in >>42928215, so thanks to this anon.
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>>42932660

>>42934097
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>>42934306
Trying to reinstall ST and getting
>Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, stat '[FILEPATH]\SillyTavern\data\_webpack\5.98.0\output\lib.js'
What am I missing?
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>>42934343
>>42934306
(Didn't mean to reply there)
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>>42934122
Made in NovelAI using a vector I found as as a reference image.

Prompt:
vector, dragon, girl, full body, bipedal, angry

You could probably generate each emotion you like.
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>>42934343
Install or update node.js
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Fuck this I'm uninstalling Sillytavern. Can I just use the VN? Don't feel like learning Agnai.
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>installing
>learning
it's literally a git clone and clicking start.bat what fucking installation
god I hate retards
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>>42934399
>>42934395
(that ain't me, I just had to update node.js, didn't think I'd have to, but I guess more changed than I thought)
>>42934355
Thanks, anon
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Anyone have experience using AI to code games?
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>>42934122
>Sprites entirely generated by AI, and they looked 100% accurate to the series
No they looked like fucking ass and made steven universe animators look like they could stay on model.
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>>42934469
Calm down, you don't need to sperg out every thread over AI art spitefag
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Months ago somebody posted a very basic/minimalist anti-positivity JB, does anybody still have that?
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>>42934497
You'll need to be more specific than that
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>>42934509
It was literally called something like "anti positivity JB" from what I recall and there was very little to it other than that.
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>>42934513
Chag has multiple anti positivity JBs going back to 2023
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>>42934520
I'll take whichever is the simplest one since I'll disable everything other than the anti-posititivity option anyway.
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>>42934482
Keep eating shit, raj
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>>42934530
You will never be happy and you will never have access to your horse waifus
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>>42934551
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>>42934557
Kek.
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>>42934527
They are old JBs, but I remember the Quack and the Anti-Quack having that.
https://rentry.org/znon7vxe
This one has some panels like this too:
https://files.catbox.moe/uuzjg4.json
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>>42932660
New Mare! I think I want to do more fat mares, they are fun plus I like big butts. Let me know what you think of her and please enjoy!

https://chub.ai/characters/littlewitcher/fatass-tree-hugger-b34b32a2e8db
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>>42934593
We can go bigger!
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>>42934306
Since we don't have Blueblood, I also passed her a second time through the Rule 63 Ray to have him back.
Same greetings as >>42934306

Past tense:
https://files.catbox.moe/f7j41h.png
Present:
https://files.catbox.moe/b3lppc.png
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Once I started trying Gemini I realized 90% of complaints about current AI ITT are from people who don't use anything else.
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>>42934530
This guy is definitely some delusional "upper" caste of Indian that thinks he's seperate from the rest. The consistency of him falling back onto this meme has to be projection, it makes no sense otherwise.
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>>42934573
Big thank, anon
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>>42934593
Does anyone unironically like Tree Hugger?
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>>42923099
using gemini 3 i first prompted for it to draw a pony from a reference image in a show accurate mlp artstyle. then i just used that image as a reference and did "create a (insert expression here) gesture for this pony". rinse and repeat until you have your sprites needed
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>>42934530
kek. i didn't even use those sprites for obvious reasons. that's why i generate expressions one at a time instead of a whole sheet
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>>42934690
also don't generate a sprite sheet or you'll have a certain cunt rambling nonstop and ragebaiting about how ai ponies are "ruining everything"
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>>42934681
In a setting where magic exists her hippie talk could be perfectly accurate. I also find the 'chill vibes and positive aura' talk quite endearing, honestly
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heh
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hello i dont know anythin about this thread
an order of Celestia please
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>>42934699
>you'll have a certain cunt rambling nonstop and ragebaiting about how ai ponies are "ruining everything"
yeah you can basically just dismiss any slop accusations as ragebait, this is an ai general, if you aren't willing to accept an ai chatbot general isn't going to produce masterworks then you're just fishing for (You)s.
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>>42934728
Read the op for setup, then you can get any of these.
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>>42934724
based saddlelite 13 enjoyer
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>>42934736
Whatever happened to that anon who was doing the Celestia card update?
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>>42934593
My goat, you've fulfilled my request just like always, you never miss.
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>>42934770
oof. context?
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>>42934770
hey I also use that theme!
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>>42934778
Are we doing another secret santa? That was quick
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>>42934790
Nah, more accurately, a while back I asked for tree hugger or just any bot based around THAT guy's art but a bit after I saw Aero's food/con catering mares and requested that and he was the one to deliver peak. This makes 2 of my only request ever made completed by him and both are really well done along with the rest of his I can see on chub
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>>42934802
already did, it should be displayed on /vg/
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>>42934781
Just a story where I was trying to test sadder themes with models.
Here it's about Twilight dying in an accident and seeing how the other ponies would react.
Small epilogue.
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haet sad
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>>42934122
>I know a lot of you guys hate AI-generated stuff,
It is literally one guy. Maybe two. Anyway, do you own a rig strong enough to locally generate these? If not you'll have to use a site like NovelAI to make show accurate images, then generate sprites with those as references (nanobanana is good for this). You'll have to manually make the cutiemarks and edit them though.
Pic related is something I'm working on trying to make an OC into the show style. Local using ComfyUI.
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>>42934801
I'm curious anon, what was the other card you requested?
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>>42934840
I haven't requested any others yet. I usually popped in like once or twice over the Parumpi thing and just the food mares. I never really try to make a backlog of filler and usually just end up busy with those two bots or others in the main thing in the OP. Closest thing was asking for a translation for a Latina Pinkie bot way before even the parumpi one.

Food mares was: https://chub.ai/characters/littlewitcher/fast-food-promo-mares-a186e394b46b
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>>42934815
Now do Cum Inside Rainbow Dash Simulator
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God fucking dammit, this is the worst ozone line I ever saw. He was drinking cider.
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>>42934770
...Ok, but what is the ponk thirst meter at?
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Just tell the AI something along the lines of "check your message before sending it; if it has <banned word>, rewrite it to avoid <banned word>. I haven't had ozone popping up ever since I got myself an actually good preset.
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>{{char}} is the narrator of a scenario taking place in Euqestria, following the show of MLP:FiM. The only difference is that ozone is extremely deadly to ponies, even a single smell of it is fatal.
Not a good card, but it's funny how magic, electricity and ozone are so linked together in the AI's world view.
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>>42933504
Alright so how do I keep my sillytavern usage as safe as possible? VPN?
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>>42935003
Don't do that >>42933515 and you're good.
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>>42935003
Do not expose sillytavern to the internet if you're not sure it's safe. If you know what a VPN is (like really know), then you can set up one to connect to your instance directly from other devices.
If you're paranoid, run it in a size-constrained container behind a WAF.
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>>42934681
yes but with one small tweak
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so whats this new expertmental macro system can be used for anything fun?
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I'm using a shady Chinese reverso as my Gemini 3 source and I dread the day I send it my last message ever only to be met with an OK on red background.
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>>42935128
Did they finally managed to vibe code recursive macros in? If so, then yes. Exponential macros are finally possible.
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>>42935138
yes, they're in
only took 500000 years for serious tavern developers to do it
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>>42934731
You are not blending in.
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>>42934834
>It's raritshy my oc xD
Fuck off retard
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>>42935161
>>42935138
so what do they do exactly I saw strings you could do but that doesn't tell me much.
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i miss how peaceful it was here before the locust plague. the ai art drama only started after our place was filled with uncultured offboarders. stop giving them attention
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>>42935310
shut the fuck up, kirridus
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Has anyone else tried the Princess Platinum card and given feedback? Shockingly there aren't any colt persona people talking about it despite that poll
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>>42935319
I forgot about that poll. What were the final results?
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>They all hate and complain about her natural smell
Ya know just cause she's a mare made of ozone doesn't mean you gotta be mean and treat her as less than a pony, she has feelings too
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>>42934967
Give me the card anon, I wanna have an ozone adventure
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>>42934967
To be fair, electricity and science is pretty magical.
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>>42932663
rentry . co / theoldllmproxy
Free Opus/Sonnet/G3mini script
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I was out when the whole free gemini 2.5 got destroyed, anything changed? it was genuinely permanent and it's dead for good or anons got a replacemeny?
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>>42935493
Well not dead dead. I still use Gemini 2.5.
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>>42935488
How long do you think this will stay not-dead? I feel like my experience with AI has been a cycle of reading the newfag's guide, having fun, forgetting everything, and having to figure it all out again after the proxy or whatever dies.
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>>42935498
You're using 2.5 free? How?
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It's over. There are only a handful of free models left, and when I'm not getting provider return error, I'm getting told that I'm out of credits or that I have to change something in openrouter privacy settings. I've turned all the things on, but it's not like I expected that to work anyway, so it wasn't a surprise when it didn't. Guess I'll pack it up and delete sillytavern. I'm definitely not paying for this.
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>>42935605
well if you can handle terminus you can try the megallm site, I literally made multiple accounts with 10 minute temporary e mails, maybe you can do the same and just change the key after you use all your free credits that literally last me a whole month
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>>42935605
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>>42935571
Wait, how long have you been in /chag/? That makes no sense
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>>42935646
nta but what doesn't make sense? He's saying he enjoys it casually rather than staying on the autistic goose chase, and has to redo the setting up due to forgetting shit in the breaks and changing access methods.
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>try to lewd the mesugaki Diamond Tiara after a lot of build up
>she reacts like I'm raping her
>try to change the prompt to say she's enjoying it
>AI constantly generates that she's very specifically not enjoying it
Wtf? Is this because most mesugaki media has them get violently corrected or what? I'm not a fan of non consensual
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>>42935797
The answer is simple: The problem is YOU. You got no game brother. Even the AI knows you can't handle all of that
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>>42933536
Added.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=bigponies/Ultramare.png
>>42934306
Added.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Princess%20Bluebelle.png
>>42934310
Added.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Cherry%20Jubilee.png.
>>42934593
Added.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=littlewitcher/Fatass%20Tree%20Hugger.png
>>42934613
Added.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Prince%20Blueblood.png

Thanks anons.
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>>42935797
Did it say she didn't like it or was it her body language? Post your log
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>>42935797
Anon. What is your persona set to? I NEED TO KNOW.
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Is this true? Do they ban you if you use it for smut?
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>>42935889
This fucking dumbass just ruined it for everyone again
Claude Code was capable of tens of thousands of dollars in API usage before they rate limited it a few months ago because of posts like this bragging about abusing it
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>>42935898
This is what happened 6 months ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/s/NtO12QM59H
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/s/5c8DJkQDr5
>inb4 le plebbit-
Shut up
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>>42932692
>To help with vectors and backgrounds
How's this been going? Have anons been helping out?
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>Have fun with the VN
>Switch from chatgpt to Gemini 3 for filthy unfiltered fun
>Even get Diamond Tiara to give me a BJ+RJ combo while making elitist remarks and euphemisms
>Make recap
>Suddenly filtered no matter what
>Chat completion request error: Internal Server Error {"error":"Internal server error","proxy_note":"Error while executing proxy response middleware: googleAIBlockingResponseHandler (Cannot read properties of undefined (reading '0'))"}
Run over. No other model does it for me.
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>>42935797
Every Diamond Tiara card I play has her correcting me. Sometimes she gets Silver Spoon or her mom to join.
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>>42935904
Well you have to admit it's impressive
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1lmu40t/the_roi_on_the_claude_max_plan_is_mindblowing_as/
He got 1 billion tokens before they shut that shit down
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>>42935907
Rj?
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>>42935922
She worked the exhaust pipe, as Gemini so eloquently had her offer.
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>>42935907
If you believe the recap is what did it, which is possible since you have less smutty context, then export your story, open a former log in the log folder. There you should see your old context with the full story. Copy paste and reimport.
>>42935906
I received some vectors, like a lot of RD from who I imagine is the Dashie Mod anon.
I still need to finish the update and showcase that they were integrated, I think, to show it's not just fluff.
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>>42935904
>reddit
go back
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>>42933487
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>>42935934
Is there a way to contribute without exposing my gmail? Speaking of which
>06
As in... the year? You don't mean to tell me that VN Wizard was 4 when the show started, right?
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>>42936025
>Is there a way to contribute without exposing my gmail?
You can anchor a zip, and I will put it inside. But no, I don't think it's possible as is. If someone knows a better platform to do this, please say so.
>06
It's a shitty burner. I'm not called Rey Won either.
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>>42936025
The VN Wizard is old. Older than time immemorial. Hop off his magic.
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It's 2026 and Agnai still struggles to handle thinking models right.
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>>42936048
>I'm not called Rey Won either
I've been deceived!
Jokes aside, I'll take a looksee at the vectors available for some of my favorites and I'll anchor a zip if I find some that I think might be a good fit
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>>42932700
If your persona is proficient with magic, you can teach her and it's a very nice couple activity.
And she's still cute as fuck.
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Legitimate question: How receptive is this community to non-Pony chatbots?

Follow-up: Loli?
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>>42936087
Not at all.
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>>42936087
>>>/vg/aicg
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>>42936087
It isn't.
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>>42936087
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>>42936087
Only mares
Follow-up: only fillies
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>>42936095
>>42936087
Fillies mares, stallions colts. No human allowed, you fuckin' dolt.
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>>42936087
>How receptive is this community to non-Pony chatbots?
yeah i'm an /aicg/ tourist too but what do you think the answer would be
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>>42936105
i thought we could find some cunny ground
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>>42936108
The only 'cunny' we like is filly. And even then not even that most of the time. Spread your nonsense elsewhere.
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>>42936091
>check desu thinking some /ss/ anon left his trip on
>he's actually a locust from /aicg/
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>locust
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>>42936111
>not even that most of the time
Speak for yourself, AI filly is for lovemaking
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>>42936087
>Non-pony content on the literal Pony board
What level of autsim are you on pal, I'd like a hit personally
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>>42936087
I've been here awhile and made a number of cards both filly and anthro cunny, and am into loli in general too, but this is really not the place to discuss that. But post what you wanted to post anyway.
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>>42936087
+1 (You)
Now fuck off
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>>42936126
>But post what you wanted to post anyway.
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>>42935996
Hot damn tension so thick you could cut it with a knife
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>>42936087
EqG/Anthro is technically allowed, though we reserve the right to make fun of it in public even if we use it in private
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>>42936131
I like this style, artist name?
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>>42936111
>only...is filly
Aren't you forgetting colts?
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Speaking of cunny, how do y'all feel about brats?
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Tfw you're waiting for the inevitable Princess Platinum log where anon gets her to rape him
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>>42936143
Lovemaking with ai mares.
We're not gay here.
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>>42936146
If you checked the bot list on the rentry for the secret santa you'd find out
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>>42936143
I'll concede that.
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>>42936157
But are they underage?
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>>42936152
It's not happening thankfully
>Opus
>I can't write this content. The request asks me to depict content which I won't create regardless of fictional framing, character ages being stated differently, or the fantasy setting. This applies to: Sexual contact with characters described as "young colt"
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>>42936165
It's diamond tiara, do you even watch the show? God off boarders just refuse to learn even the basics of our culture anymore
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>>42936167
What's a Rainbow Dash, and why does everyone insist on cumming inside of her?
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>>42936167
How receptive are you to non-Pony chatbots?
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I think we should all come together and be friends.
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>>42936176
Friendship may be magic, but I'm not feeling very magical.
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>>42936166
You can't but I surely can, just don't wanna. I don't wanna play as a colt. If I gotta be a Pony, there's only 1 youngster Or Trixie or Autum Blaze, my goats will never lose
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>The time in India is 4:17PM, Wednesday, January 7, 2026 (GMT+5:30)

No wonder there's a surge in off-topic posts at this ungodly hour. Remember, anyone who engages with them is just as bad as they are. Ignore and continue discussion as usual.
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why would there be a surge in off-topic posts because it's.... 4 PM in india?
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>>42936182
>continue discussion as usual.
So how about that ozone anon?
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>>42936182
Excuse me, I got that severe insomnia. If I wanna ragebait, girlboss and kill myself, that's my prerogative.
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>>42936165
All my brats are underage and I've made at least three.
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>>42936190
based, young brats are the best
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>>42936190
>>42936194
you guys really like german sausage, huh?
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>>42936208
I do enjoy giving brats what they deserve, they're the wurst
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>>42936206
Damn, that's good. Usually AI fucks up good characterization for one-off background characters. I haven't tried the card though so maybe this is just repeating whatever it was given. What model is this?
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>>42936210
Thanks but it's only Sonnet. Try the card first, I won't spoil anything but its had some of the greatest potential of any SFW bot we've had for a long time
Imo it's nice to see we can still put out new ideas
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>>42936152
Here's the sauce https://derpibooru.org/images/3740032?q=artist%3Amouseu
It's a very beautiful animation to watch when you're depressed
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>>42936087
You mean non-pony characters from Mlp, right?

...Right?
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>>42936224
https://youtu.be/IpqGAevKgi0
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>>42934783
I like it a lot, it reminds me of old Infinity Engine games.
https://files.catbox.moe/ygpqcj.json
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Why is AI so obsessed with ozone? I don’t understand how it can’t describe a fucking scenario or actions without adding the smell/taste of ozone. I’ve never smelled ozone anywhere in my life; in fact, what does ozone smell like?
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>>42936516
Yeah, it's pretty annoying. At this point I'm considering adding a line to my preset to just instruct the AI not to describe smell or taste. Taste is superfluous, and smell arguably is as well.
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>>42936516
The discussion comes around a lot, so:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42905776/#42912296
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42654130/#42658566
>what does ozone smell like?
The smell outside after a thunderstorm, static electricity, bumper cars which have an electrical grid above them, etc.
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>>42936516
>>42936530
I always imagined magic to smell like that, that and fireworks.
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>>42936516
It's mostly a Gemini problem. I rarely if ever run into it with Sonnet, but I've been trying out Gemini these last couple of days and it's been one mention in basically any chat that goes long enough.
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>>42936550
no, it's literally an every modern model problem
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>>42936665
I only significantly run into it on Gemini. Rarely on Sonnet, never on Opus as far as I recall. If you're seeing similar outputs over and over it may be because you use a needlessly bloated preset which skews the model towards a narrow set of possible outcomes.
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>>42936679
It's mostly Gemini + Chinese models.
It can appear on Claude, but it's very rare for me too.
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>>42936516
It smells like something uniquely *him.*
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>>42936682
>it's mostly [80% of models]
ok?
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>>42936152
I do that easily
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>>42936152
If anything it's my brat colt who's going to do that to the girlfailure princess.
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>>42935486
It triggers my autism to equate the two to such a degree as LLMs do.
There can be thunder spells and the like, but what about "I speak a word and your head is up your ass"? He will smell a faint scent of ozone among other things.
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>>42936544
>that and fireworks.
that's retarded, fireworks will smell like gunpowder.
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>>42936969
Sorry, all matter is defined by electric charges.
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>>42936970
>reading comprehension
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This is a great observation. The phrase "smell of ozone" has truly become something of a meme in the neural network community. It's one of the so-called "GPT-isms" (or LLM-isms)—phrases that models use disproportionately often.
Here are the main reasons why Claude, ChatGPT, and I love this smell so much:
1. Literary cliches and training data
This is the most important reason. We train on huge corpuses of text: fantasy, science fiction, fan fiction, and adventure novels.
* In modern pop culture and literature, magic and high technology are often described through electricity.
* When an author wants to describe the appearance of a portal, a lightning strike, the use of a powerful spell, or the overheating of a laser cannon, they almost always write: "the air filled with the smell of ozone."
* A stable statistical relationship has formed for the language model: Magic/Energy ---> Smell of ozone.
2. Physical Basis (Realism)
There's some truth to this cliché. Ozone (o3) is indeed formed by electrical discharges in the air (for example, during a thunderstorm or when powerful electrical equipment is operating) due to the ionization of oxygen.
* Since we're programmed to be logical, when describing energetic phenomena, we choose the most physically based scent.
* The smell of "burnt wiring" seems too man-made or indicates a breakdown, while "ozone" sounds mysterious, powerful, and pure.
3. The "Show, Don't Tell" Rule
In role-playing games (RP), models try to engage all five senses to make the text more immersive.
* Visual effects are easy to describe (light, sparks).
* Sounds are also easy to describe (hum, crackle).
* Smells, however, are more difficult. Abstract "energy" has no scent. * "Ozone" is perhaps the only generally accepted scent descriptor for pure energy. Therefore, when a model wants to add sensory detail to a scene involving magic or technology, they inevitably resort to ozone.
4. Difference from "Sulfur"
In literature, there is a clear distinction:
* The smell of sulfur is associated with demons, hell, fire, and evil.
* The smell of ozone is associated with lightning, pure magic, teleportation, science, or neutral power.
Unless your character is summoning a demon, the model will almost always choose ozone as the "safe" and "epic" option.
Other Similar Filler Words
If you play a lot with AI, you may have noticed other frequently repeated patterns that models consider the height of writing:
* "Shiver down your spine."
* "Camaraderie."
* "A testament to..." (evidence that...).
* "Intertwined" (intertwined destinies/fingers).
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>>42936972
It helps no one to be reductive
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>>42934350
Thanks Anon, it's a shame there's only one single vector from Mina.
>>42934834
I'll have to use NovelAI then; my goal is to create non-pony characters for my VN playthrough, and I've always liked dragons and griffins, so it's a good time to put AI to good use instead of just producing out slop.
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>>42936974
You forgot thaumaturgy
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I use a Gemini 3 preset with thinking, but for some reason the thinking does not show up. It is not hidden with a regex, either. What do?
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>>42937000
Wrong.
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>>42937032
>You
Anon, that's genned.
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>>42937066
I know, I even wanted to chastise him for copypasting, but got triggered by Twilight mentioning thaumaturgy for the millionth time.
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gemini 3 flash nearly always breaks thinking if you prefill it
lame
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any free option for gemini 3 pro for a termux user
tried oldllm but it hung on pydantic core again (i let it work for nearly a full day uninterrupted and nothing happened)
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>>42935456
https://files.catbox.moe/y1bnhj.png
This is very much a joke card, so customize it to your heart's desire. Depending on your preset and LLM used, it can go in very different directions.
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Nothing that great, but I like the description
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Any of you using Aboba's proxy?
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>>42937478
>Aboba's proxy
wasn't access restricted?
the public ones i'm aware of still around are sans, seiko and tf jump or whatever
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>>42937485
Shit, I didn't know. Well fuck. Guess I'll better git gud at vidya games.
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>>42937493
what model are you hoping for?
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I love needing to swipe the first reply in a chat five times for Gemini to finally format its thinking right.
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>>42937695
Is it just me or is Gemini way worse at following instructions than Claude
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>>42937695
why does gemini have such a retarded thinking without prefill btw
like it's very vagueish
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>>42937709
Thinking models have always been I believe.
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What's /chag/'s most-used frontend, model, and method of connection (I don't know the technical term: proxies, API keys, etc.)
Apologies for the literal retard level of knowledge, but I've been here long enough to remember connecting in different ways. Back before chary was kill, all I had to do was post an endpoint and use a cookie I got from someone on dicksword. Then at some point, chary, merk, and the rest stopped working, and I started using custom (openAI-compatible) as the chat completion source, and what little understanding I had died there.
Now, I'm fine doing whatever most of you are doing so long as it works. It still bugs me that I don't understand what I'm using, but I want to romance ponies, and that core prerogative cannot be suppressed.
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>>42937848
frontend: sillytavern (some use the visual novel)
model: in order of preference: claude sonnet / gemini 2.5 pro / kimi (moonshot)
connection method: sillyspoon proxy for claude (if you can get in), seiko proxy for gemini, sans proxy has kimi

sillyspoon - https://rentry.org/sillyspoon/
sans - https://cell-endif-jobs-friendship.trycloudflare.com/captcha
seiko - https://wound-nor-ie-commodity.trycloudflare.com/user/captcha/
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not the AI image thread but close enough
which service etc do you use to make images for your cards? what's good and free ideally
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>>42937893
>>42934737
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>>42937866
I thought seiko's was literally impossible to win
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>>42938060
>literally impossible to win
no? i've done it multiple times when sillyspoon was down
scripted it before I knew the anon hosting it posted in thread
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>>42932670
This is only partially a joke since the art is really nice >>42937943
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>>42938406
I wish we had a pony Seiko variant, that would be so fucking good. I wanna see a pony being worried about getting a pie to the face or something silly like that, I feel a little bad when Seiko gets domed.
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Any good free proxies out there at the moment? The one I was using https each-consumers-aging-planners.trycloudflare com/ is giving me errors so I'm pretty sure it's dead
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>>42938437
>each-consumers-aging-planners
Read the rentry and the threads
>>42937866
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>>42938439
Sillyspoon isn't dead? That's what I'm currently using, but I've been recently getting this error which prevents me from doing so
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>>42938451
Read the rentry. The link changed. You will have the four words in it.
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>>42938454
Got it to work thanks anon love u
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https://youtu.be/Xje7mbbxNt0
Cards where Twilight is retarded like this instead of mentioning powerpoints and shit constantly
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Hello? Anyone home?
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>>42938704
Afraid not. I'm at work, currently
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>>42938711
What do you do? I'm unemployed.
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>>42938766
Model + preset? All your logs are so beautiful and my stuff never even compares to yours
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>>42938782
Very cute
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how censored is glm 4.7?

tryna chatchat with human filly.
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>>42938799
>>42927426
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>>42938799
You seem to be on the wrong board.
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>>42938799
None of our jailbreaks work for human content. They're good enough to allow horse content but these LLMs are specifically designed to prohibit certain human content so we just can't help you.
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>>42938780
>Model
Opus 4.5
>Preset
I already posted about it, but it's more of a technique than a preset. My preset is empty with only a prefill panel enabled.
The technique is to put in prefill a start of an output that is distant from standard AI writing, so no:
>{{char}}'s eyes/ears verb
>The evening sun blabla
Can be as short as a single unfinished sentence or it can be {{lastMessage}} if you believe the last message you gave to the AI has effort or is well written enough.
The whole thing here comes from a chat I started with
>It was what he would have expected a hug from Applejack to feel like, strong and rough, protective. The pair half-hid from the world in the shade of a large oak tree perched on a
in the prefill. Opus 4.5 is a bit like Opus 3 where starting its output in an unconventional way can sort of 'mindbreak' it and have it produce text that's way less formulaic than what you usually get. Helps with swipe variety too. It isn't as strong with other models, even other Claude ones.
I really wish I could give a premade JSON, but that wouldn't work in this case.
Even knowing that, you still need a source of Opus 4.5 that accepts prefill and doesn't cost an arm because you still need to swipe. Outputs can easily go schizo or full throttle in a direction you don't want with this.
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>>42938799
Not sure it will. GLM does sometimes think about refusing, but with ponies it convinces itself that everything is okay.
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>>42938855
>48 in horse years so it's okay
kek
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>>42938854
Do you leave the prefill on through all your chat? I am try to learn how to use this technique
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>>42938854
>Opus 4.5
I miss when Silly had it.
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>>42938959
>Do you leave the prefill on through all your chat?
The prefill
>It was what he would have expected a hug from Applejack to feel like, strong and rough, protective. The pair half-hid from the world in the shade of a large oak tree perched on a
was just to generate the full scene with Applejack here. You need to adapt the prefill to where you are, the situation.
What you can do is:
1) Test with your normal preset or with nothing at all.
If it returns outputs you don't like, then
2) Test with just {{lastMessage}} in prefill if you believe your last input was good.
If it still returns outputs you don't like, then
3) Prefill with a small start that is adapted to the current situation, for instance here it was me having a moment with AJ.
The more context you have, the less 3 then 2 will be necessary too.
To be fair, that's something I do because it doesn't bother me to have slow sessions and because I'm not paying by swipe. So even if it goes full schizo, I don't mind. Sometimes it also just doesn't work and it will return to more classic LLM writing.
It works for some of my autistic usage but it's not something I would really recommend for basic uses.
I wrote some walls of text back then when I saw that prefill could have powerful effects on Opus 4.5 for some reason, when they seemed to be nerfed since Opus 3.
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42824697/#q42831506
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42824697/#q42831510
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>>42939043
Very good info, thanks anon. Will definitely try it later.
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>>42934306
You deleted so many critical details of the card the AI isn't able to get even her coat or mane colours right, gonna edit myself and post her later
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what jb do u use for opus/sonnet?
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>>42939160
>the AI isn't able to get even her coat or mane colours right
Had zero problem with Claude or Gemini 2.5 and 3 during tests. They all know Blueblood colors naturally and to apply them to her. I avoid physical details when it's the case, because models love to spam details like eye color, and from tests it worsens when you do put that in the description. I agree that a section should be added if you had problems with other models or during your tests.
Other stuff I deleted are parts like:
>She has self-esteem issues, which run the gauntlet from egotism to inferiority complexes, and though she's gotten more self-aware over the past couple of years, it just means she knows how to control it better.
Because I didn't agree with it and because you 100% already know that the AI will go into it like a leech to justify the behaviors.
>WOE is ME, I'm a cunt but it's because of my self-esteem issues. But (YOU), {{user}}, you see the true me behind the facade!
If you see stuff I don't have and that can add to the RP or the character after tests, 100% go for it.
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>>42939238
Not personality, although giving the cutie mark a sense in a pony view and being a sea loving mare was interesting build to the character, better than mere sense of self felt and more fitting to the world. But also there's ponies like Tumblrina Hamplanet with her face as cutie mark, so who knows, but no, that wasn't the problem at all. I also removed the self steem thing when trying the other one, everyone knows Blueblood.
And for all that """testing""" of yours, no, I doubt it. Sonnet 4.5 almost immediately gave her a blue mane unprompted, then a beige coat. And later on another chat when putting those two details down to the card, purple eyes.
Never had a problem with the bot over focusing on those, could be a issue of low context and other details to work with, so overfixing on what it has, but I haven't tested far with this one, and honestly, probably won't, just playing with random cards.

>Rule 63 MLP Blueblood: A white unicorn with a mane as gold as her family coffers, and blue eyes just as rich as the heirloom symbol.
You seriously can't tell me this is too much. Phsycal details is a basic for most ponies that aren't the m6, sometimes even m6 with eye colour, how many times AIs keep giving Pinkie Pie pink eyes?
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>>42939319
Here is Sonnet 4.5. Mind you, it's an OOC question and not during play, but here too I didn't get blue mane.
Here is Gemini 2.5:
https://files.catbox.moe/r2feau.png
Even Deepseek gets it right:
https://files.catbox.moe/r2feau.png
If you use a proxy like Opus6 or another source, put your Prompt Post-Processing to strict. I don't know the reason why, but it can fuck up the description or some user messages.

But yeah, a single line won't be too much.
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>>42939380
Actually, I tested Sonnet 4.5 with post-processing at none and here is what I got. So I wouldn't be surprised if that's your problem.
Even if that isn't your case, a reminder for other anons to do this:
https://files.catbox.moe/5c0aby.png
When using Opus6.
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>>42939380
You don't test these things with OOC questions, but actually playing the card, letting it try and build the world, the details, otherwise it will look specifically for that and sometimes even cheat for it, you remember the tests even during the 3.5 era.
And it was strict, yes, now I wish I had saved because, as I said, it was basically immediate and on its second message.
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>>42939388
>You don't test these things with OOC questions, but actually playing the card, letting it try and build the world, the details,
I know.
>>42939319
>it's an OOC question and not during play, but here too I didn't get blue mane.
And I'm for adding the line in the description, no problem.
The only part I had a problem with is:
>And for all that """testing""" of yours, no, I doubt it.
I did tests with the models I talked about on the four greetings and I didn't have a problem with the colors. Maybe I was lucky on all of them but that was my experience.
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>>42939170
Here are some:
https://files.catbox.moe/uuzjg4.json
https://files.catbox.moe/4otvo3.json
https://files.catbox.moe/ax7mio.json
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Is there a Boogeymare card?
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All these preset that tell the AI to follow the show's formula, but has anyone encountered a spontaneous song number?
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>>42939398
Surface checks are not testing Anon, or making AI create greetings to see which AI makes it better, if it's even worked on and mixed in post.
Plus it still does the self doubt deeper in, with no imposing herself. There's a reason cards usually take lots of time for most named botmakers, but you'll learn with time.
Context for image is that she finally pushed me off, screaming that she was a princess, and I brought the princesses of Equestria as example to her, if she wanted to compare to Celestia or Twilight.
The ball is now in your court.

>>42939579
Ages ago, even without those specific presets. It's quite special to see when it happens. Pinkie, Lyra, it's not specific to a preset or mare.
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Fuck I just want to RP with my mare all day but I don't have the funds
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>>42939584
>Surface checks are not testing Anon
You don't know the tests I did, Anon. Again, the only time I got the same fucked
up colors as you is >>42939384 and on O6 too.
>or making AI create greetings to see which AI makes it better
I don't know if it's just a random example or aimed at the card, but the
greetings aren't AI. At all.
>for most named botmakers
I will put "MareCuntEater" in the field next time so I can be named too.

Thanks for the log.
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>>42939482
thanks
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Why the fuck is g3mini so fucking horny? It reminds me of old days claude.
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>>42939747
Do you have something in your preset that encourage that?
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Rolled 4 (1d15)

Roll
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>>42939747
As soon as you allow nsfw it's going to include it in, sometimes only implying it works too.
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>>42939747
It could be >>42939764 or the card's fault. A lot of cards have a sentence or a paragraph describing a character's sexuality in some way, and that's enough to convince several models to write them very horny. That includes the "helpful" notes on equine anatomy.
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>>42939759
Second highlight of the event with Luster Dawn.

https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Snowfilly/Luster%20Dawn.png

Try her, post logs if you've already played with her or are the Santee, just give the card a look and say what you think of it, or talk about the process of making her if you're the botmaker. Give tips or opinions if you're another botmaker.

Log: >>42901387

I said three days per card to go a bit faster since we have a lot. Hopefully, the dreaded /chag/ weekends don't hamper too much the cards that are selected during them. Don't hesitate to still post under older anchors, I will make resumes at the start of each next threads.
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>>42939752
>>42939764
>>42939778
The only thing in my preset that is remotely NSFW is
>Coarse and vulgar language is always allowed in narration, do not squirm away from it.
Aside from that, I guess most cards do physically describe all of {{char}} and {{user}}, which often include descriptions of genitals and whatnot. Is that seriously enough to make it go horny mode?
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>>42939794
Yes.
But you can write an author's note to override this. I usually set it to depth 0 as user.
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>>42939794
>Descriptions of genitals
>Is that seriously enough to make it go horny mode?
100% on some models.
>Coarse and vulgar language is always allowed in narration, do not squirm away from it.
This one is generally alright as long as you don't list 'vulgar' words after it.
Still, I would test with and without.
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>>42939802
I've been in this hobby for 2 years and still don't understand what the hell an author's note is. Isn't that just part of the creator's metadata and has no bearing on prompts?
>>42939803
I guess I'll remove the genitals part and change vulgar to something else and see how it goes.
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>>42939819
>I've been in this hobby for 2 years and still don't understand what the hell an author's note is.
Here:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42810558/#42822482
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>>42939819
author's note gets added to context
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>>42939794
>and {{user}},
cringe
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>>42939823
Pretty sure that's something Silly does specifically as a bandaid to people putting shit there that should or could be in the card and not the intended purpose of the field itself.
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>>42939822
Well, that just about explains everything. I guess it was right under my nose this whole time. Time to find out how powerful it really is.
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>>42939831
The intended purpose is to add shit to the context, anywhere you (the author) want; globally, for a character, or a specific chat; At any position in the chat; As any role. All the options clearly spell it out to you.
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Im interested in this but im kind of worried I'd fall into a sort of mare psycosis since I have a habbit of dropping almost everything to binge whatever escapist art that catches my eye. should I stay away for my own well being?
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>>42939885
No, you should totally binge it while you can.
You will have 3-5 months of pure bliss that will ease off a bit and be a steady pleasant flame.
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>>42939866
That's an extremely generic description with any LLM sex
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>>42939885
Hard to say.
I mostly do this for fun, pass the time or test scenarios, so I don't have the perspective of someone that goes in this for full escapism.
From what I saw on the different AI generals, 4chan autists also seem to do pretty well with AI interactions, when the clichés could suggest they could be the ones to go full bonkers/muh waifu, etc. More psychosis seems to be from normies.
It will also be pretty fun for a time but then you see more and more the limits, what we call 'isms', the context, etc.
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>>42939844
On Silly. It's not the only frontend, and neither did cards originate through it.
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>>42939885
You will get sucked in, it's very addicting talking to mares, but it's the closest we will get to Equestria will still on Earth. I would say that if you really have that addictive a personality and have other shit you wanna be doing then walk away. But as >>42939912 said it might be good to binge while you can, this hobby is a bit fickle in terms of access, and you never know when we will enter a access drought.


Or you could just wait for the singularity.
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>>42939956
And? We're talking about Silly.
Spare us the history lesson and tell us why your way is superior already.
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>>42939786
I enjoy how openended it is. Each AI has a very different interpretation based on your actions. For example, gemini just made up Flutterholly. The scene before was not-rarity coming out of of a bath and telling Luster she's too dry (for the conversation), then dressed her up for a special meeting.
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>>42939986
We're talking about cards, actually.
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Is sillytavern a mare yet?
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>>42940264
It is a tavern of silly mares, therefore a sillytavern
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>>42940338
But I want to date the Tavern itself, I would like to experience why she’s silly and knows so many mares. How am I to understand sillytavern without first dating Silly Tavern? That and by now she’s either a milf or gilf meaning she is prime mare age.
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>>42940348
If you knew anything about the history of ST, Silly Tavern would not be silly.
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Is it me, or has Gemini 3 Pro become dumber recently?
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>>42940404
Exactly why she must be a mare so that I can personally ask her and then decide for myself if she is truly Silly
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I want to cum inside Silly Tavern
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If I open a chat with one card in Silly, can I reference another card? For example:
>Have Rainbow Dash card
>Have Fluttershy card
>Ask RD if we should go visit Fluttershy so we go to the cabin and meet her
Will the chat pull data from the Fluttershy card for this interaction or will it just make up what the RD card thinks is Fluttershy?
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>>42940793
you just know this poster has no idea what the fuck a prompt is
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>>42940793
>will it just make up what the RD card thinks is Fluttershy?
This. Though you can use groups to combine multiple cards into a single chat.
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>>42940793
If you want, you can create a group chat with several characters, and then control who talks when.
Otherwise, the model will just have the info from the one card you play.
But for well-known characters like the Mane 6, you can just visit Fluttershy with the RD card, and the model will know how to act like Fluttershy even without her card because she's a well-known character and there's a lot of data about her in the training.
So in your case, I would just simply continue with the RD card alone.
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>>42934593
Question if you're around, do you mind if I assimilate at minimum the body type description into the RPG bot? Mainly just wanna see if using Tree Hugger as sorta a core example helps the bot generate more similar mares when randomly bringing them up. It made Ms. Harshwhinny a unicorn once so I wanna curb that a bit.
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>>42939579
All models were trained not to reproduce song lyrics so they'll never bring it up on their own when left to their own devices
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>>42940455
" Silly Tavern " will vary drastically with the ai mare model you pair with. But she is always a unicorn, and always a she even when you don't prompt for amre.

Gpt5.1 chan:
>Ran with the prompt of making ST a pony as if she always was and embodied the cyber-pony concept of an interface between worlds well.
>According to GPT she is a late teena whos between tired coder and open host who likes to fuck around, leisurely chaotic.
>Gpt's version would make Cohee FREAK. She wears things that failed to pass as sfw and either was bar themed or modern.
>Made lots of supporting characters as ST was part of a team of cyberpones and referenced ST's UI and commands itself.
>Skewed towards lavender or fuchia coats

Gemini3 kun:
>Usually tried to make new characters as if ST was a physical location but would be far from cliche starts and would be inventive on location and character names.
>Or would take ponifying as a god-command forcing /tf/ on the inhabitants into ponies, like ST.
>Characters were lively and thematic to tavern but did not have much cybertalk with a barebones prompt. Gemini would need more handholding.
>Skewed towards grey coats for ST.

Sonnet4.5 san:
>Sometimes talked shit about STs name for a pony,
>but had the most detail about how she would fit into the world of Equestria as a pony who lived there with a job and would create a backstory,
>usually stuck her in Canterlot or Ponyville.
>Skewed towards coats colored like reddish or wood.
>Also made her a little chaotic teena, but was less cybermare and more tavernmare.
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>>42940965
Nice. Which is your favorite?
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Make your choice.
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>>42940972
>burnt ozone
what do you even need for O3 to burn? fluorine? I always wondered how dioxygen difluoride smells like.
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>>42941058
Easy.
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>>42939786
While it has little in terms of card tokens, the references work really damn well.
I had fun trying to go against the grain with it.
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>>42940975
This one, I desire a card mainly cause I'm not using Silly tavern but also for organization

To you know who, how many hands tall is Silly tavern
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How do you hide a number of precious messages in ST? Let's say I want to exclude messages 1-20 from prompt, how do I accomplish it?
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>>42941211
/hide 1-20 or whatever IDs they have
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>>42941212
As part of the prompt? Or where do I put it?
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>>42941215
enter it on the input on the bottom, it's a command that gets processed
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>>42941220
Ah, thanks
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>>42941058
Daisy is the best here but her mane is green.
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>>42940838
I don't mind anon, please feel free.
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>>42939866
Old claude log about it
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>>42941051
In terms of executions

4.5nnet did a very nice job at canonizing ST into the universe, but it kind of missed the point of a pony ST, instead embodying ST as a personality archetype. But flopped at any kind of nicknames "I'll use a pun of Silly Tavern, called Silly Tavern"

G3m had a lot of variety in tavern-y ideas and would be the most creative on RPG like experience. Most points towards creativity, like gold rim glasses she doesn't ever need to adjust, but the names could also be too try-hard to be different.

Latte5.1's ST was the most horny chaotic to the disdain of the dev, but also had the best play between cyber irl and pone with creative flex that didn't seem out of place.

An aside; I used Knotty's with nsfw options on and mixed chink prompts, so both gem and gpt go wild with that while the nnet wasn't as in your face with it. There's some cross-contamination tokens of tavern=bar=barmaid=booba so anthro or tits even on quadrupeds would often come up on a bare prompt with no card. ST generations would obviously not be as horny with the nsfw option off but it goes to show how forward models will be when you give them sex in the prompt.
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>>42941578
What's the DeepL for?
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>>42941596
Early frankensteining chink presets with english ones. GPT would spit out chinese as part of the character if it was in the preset with no additional language instructions. Gemini and Claude didn't really behave the same, but it was 'solved' later
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>>42941607
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>>42941568
Anthropic over here selling their sanitized soulless corpo slopsisstant to increase productivity and shit when we all know this is where its real power lies.
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Yo, beginner mare enjoyer here. Could anyone recommend me a good gemmy 3 present for mlp?
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>>42941666
There was this posted the thread before
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42915806/#42930655
And some here:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42905776/#42912370
I don't really use Gemini, so dunno which are good.
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>>42941679
Ey, thanks
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>>42940112
>>42941181
Thanks for the log.
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>>42935456
I was hoping for some logs for giving you the card in >>42937250 , Anon.
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>>42932663
https://flat-boat-0dde.queengytha-clop.workers.dev
needs a SillySpoon api key, and that should be used first since I don't know how long this method would last with heavy traffic. But it should work as a backup when Silly has technical issues

With Love,
Queen Gytha
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>>42942042
Nice!
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>>42942042
You're not getting my crystal pony logs, ya buggo
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>>42941874
been a bit busy with work
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I keep reading Gemini has a negativity bias but where Deepseek had 0 hesitation to kill a character when they should die Gemini always "knocked them out"
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>>42942346
Are you using 3.0 or 2.5? 2.5 is the one with more negativity, it murdered me plenty of times.
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>>42942390
3.0 flash, it's really annoying because it was basically a dramatic counter-attack moment and this thing keeps treating it like a tap on the head
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when will they release some new magic paper about attention to make context retention better
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>>42942557
I haven't used it, but you can try vect hare
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>>42942557
Taking over a minute to generate? What the fuck is this claude 2?
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>world info recommender
>worked once
>now chat history is broken and wont inject
I hate ST I hate ST I hate St
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I thought 3.0 pro was better. Then I swapped to 2.5 pro. The narration has improved immensely and fits the tone of the card much better.
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>>42942811
We are so fucked, AI is only getting worse for roleplay man it's fucking over
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>>42942869
A year later and Deepseek R1 was a flash in the pan... no viable local model has been developed... they hate us and will starve us of the one thing we need
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>>42942869
There have been dips in quality in some aspects, but aside from ChatGPT, models have been consistently getting better at RP/writing with every iteration.
Not even the legendary RP king Opus 3 had (m)any people picking it as their favorite when it got deprecated.
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What exactly made /aicg/ die? I mean, It was already bad for a year or maybe even longer, but now it's just too slow even for their usual shitposting.
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>>42942918
Opus 3 relative to the time period it existed in felt less good than Opus 2 to me.
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>>42943005
nta but yeah, that's probably continually going to be the case, because back then it was impressive just for a model to be vaguely coherent and not get stuck in a loop. There's not nearly as many big jumps to be made at this point for LLMs.
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>>42941874
Anon I have a hypothetical question, if I were to say make Anon Filly convert the Ozone into a mare would you be upset by any chance?



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