Come one and all to the meta-writefag and help raise the quality of MLP fanfiction! Featuring: Nature vs. Nurture.ITT: Taking inspiration from literature, skullfucking Dash's eye socket, AI fics still run rampant, dreaming of ponyfics, Utaan is shit!, the thread's works will be the only piece of fiction to survive the apocalypse, dramaslop, a stretched out comedy, What is a favourite?, skimming Celestia's Relaxing Vacation, RIP to the 2nd club, going batty, first time, learning to use search parameters, writing, fics with friendship reports, imagine watching the show, ACW a shit, Not "people", authors, and to be fair you need a pretty high IQ to understand tags.>/fimfic/ Secret Book ClubThe one hundred and sixty-ninth book is Twilight Sparkle and the Cake Thief!https://www.fimfiction.net/story/301618/twilight-sparkle-and-the-cake-thiefIf (You) want to participate, read chapters 1 through 7 by Sunday, March 8th.>Recommended stories:Tired of adventures that meander for a million words? Fed up with super special OCs? Well, we've compiled the best of the worst in order to bring you our absolute average!New Starter Kit - http://mlpficreviews.org.uk/starter/Old Starter Kit - http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png>Common fic abbreviations used by the thread:https://ponepaste.org/7317>A list of reviews made by the Anons in this thread:http://www.mlpficreviews.org.ukUse the commands ">review <story link>" and ">discuss <story link>" to add reviews to a story.Userscript for extra features: https://ponepaste.org/8619>An in-depth writing guide for beginners:https://eznguide.neocities.org/>Additional material for authors:Rhorse's Horse Behavioral Notes - https://ponepaste.org/932Politics and the English Language - https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - https://poneb.in/g4VpEg4fPurdue Online Writing resources: https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/index.html and https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/subject_specific_writing/creative_writing/writers/index.html>Can you pre-read my story?Post it on Google Docs or HackMD with comments enabled and give us a link.>Various reviews and riffs:Fillyanon's Bookshelf - https://ponepaste.org/5555Notkickass222urmom's Reviews - https://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmomIHeartShinzakura's Reviews - https://ponepaste.org/user/IHeartShinzakuraAppleanon reads fics - https://poneb.in/wmGX7FPmDeluxe Big Master Review List - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z9Bz7UnEbxo-svlXa2tV49PJkP-yFuR7pRXiBUn-IeUA Guide to Rational Fics - https://files.catbox.moe/3jzrfm.pngPrevious Thread: >>43061429
Get better taste in books you illiterate fags.
>>43088173No.
>>43088173No, I like Discworld
>>43088173You will NEVER reach the heights of Dr. Seuss
B**ks? the only inspiration I need comes from music. If a single album proves insufficient, just add another. Keep doing this until the writing has enough substance to stand on it's own. Your fingers will do the rest.
2+2+2th for best duo!Enjoy this conveniently packaged Tuna: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/7335/apotheosis
>>43088242You are a yurinigger, and as such, deserve to me be ground alive into chum
>>43088242Based ship. I'm no writer, but I'd love to see a fic one day where Celestia works behind the scenes to try to set Twilight and Luna up with each other. She's already got a reputation for being a chess master in some fics.>>43088256>deserve to me beESL
I think this past week has been the best I've ever had writing. Over 1k every single day. All on the deadfic, too. I don't know where the enthusiasm came from but I'm not complaining.>>43086790>I don't know how you'd even start getting publishing dealsThe old way was you had to get a literary agent interested in your work. I don't know how true that is now, though. Rumors are that publishers won't accept anything from a white guy anymore. Could just be right-leaning ragebait, though. Who knows.>>43086879> they are getting secret funding to stay afloatThey get subsidized by their profitable divisions. Macmillian's fiction division hemorrhages money, but textbooks are a money printer. It was crazy working for one their textbook publishers and seeing all the money that was thrown around. A table that was restocked weekly with all the newest books you could just take home, candy drawers, snack cabinets, catered lunches once a week, donuts and bagels every Friday, a booze party in the break room where they filled a little inflatable pool with ice and liquor bottles. Insane first job to have.>>43087486>it's not a fat fetish>comic's a group of morbidly obese characters shoveling cake in their gulletYou're never beating the allegation, Rarifag.
>>43088260Yeah! That happens in https://www.fimfiction.net/story/62270/Luna's-Librarian%2C-Twilight's-MoonThere was a second one as well, but I forgot which one it is, probably because I read it about the same time as this fic.Celestia tries to get Cadence to bring them together, and Cadence finds out they've already hit it off. Or maybe Cadence tries on her own, but probably the former.
>>43088268Thanks! I'll check it out.
>>43088271You're welcome! It's mostly a lot of fun, but has a few poorly written chapters. My review is at >>41686970, although desu's down now.Actually, their mutual connection to Celestia is foundational to the ship, I just assumed that she's expected to be involved in it somehow. Celestia's chessmistressing is the instigation for Apotheosis, although you're not supposed to know that at the start.But it is much more overt in I Watch the Moon. She says outright to Luna that she's shipping them.
>>43088264Rarifag, like 90% of pregfags on this board, are just fatfags and voreniggers (same thing) larping as pregfags to keep their horrific and degenerate nature under the janny's radar
>>43088242TwiLuna is a good duo.My favorite duo is Princess Twilight + Sunset. I like the idea of Sunset becoming an alicorn and ruling with Twilight together.Shame it's kind of hard to find though. Most Twilight/Sunset fics are with SciTwi which I'm not really a fan of.
>>43088298Big Twi + Small Sunset is best
>>43088298>>43088309Guess I should actually share a fic:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/548021/the-light-and-the-solid
>>43088264>You're never beating the allegation, Rarifag.Only Pinkie Pie was big in that comic, and that's because she had an entire cake competing with a foal for space in her belly.>>43088291>Rarifag, like 90% of pregfags on this board, are just fatfags and voreniggers (same thing) larping as pregfags to keep their horrific and degenerate nature under the janny's radarNuh uh. I like all sizes, so long as she's obviously pregnant, and I aim for more reasonable sizes lately. Check out this Bundle Joy sketch commission I got from Tony Fleecs at Harmonycon last month. Isn't she cute?
Thoughts on non-Fimfic horsewords?https://twibooru.org/3726348
>>43088340I'm not opposed, but what the fuck is this link? It's not even a fic, it's just a guy complaining that his country outlawed incest porn.
>>43088343The same country in which Fimfic is cringed in, no less. But as for the specific activities of this linked specimen, it has busied itself using Kisekae to engage in the ancient Japanese tradition of Cuckoldry.
>>43088356Did you use google translate to write this? I have no idea what you're saying.
>>43088111Does it not occur to you that trying to write serious fiction about a children's cartoon is postmodernist within of itself? The classics would have scoffed at the very idea of this.
>>43088111Nice digits, but that's not what I mean. All stories are predictable, but some are more predictable than others. Postmodernist faggotry is unpredictable (and in a bad way). Hollywood movies are mostly predictable. Perfect Pear is more predictable than average: After just a few minutes, you know every plot point and every story beat. There are zero plot twists.
>>43088168>RIP to the 2nd club"Maybe everything that dies some day comes back" or whatever it was Lovecraft said.
>>43088332Do you like pregnant loli?
>>43088588>Postmodernist faggotry is unpredictable (and in a bad way)t. got filtered hard by good media because of mental retardation
I thought you were gone for good!
>>43088646>t. never been to a pretentious avant garde film festival
>>43088678If your stuff is shown at a festival you have too much money and popularity to be a true artist.
>>43088636No he said "things that live forever won't die", but in an extremely mauve manner causing people to start quoting it.
AJ's parents being dead is GOOD, actually
>>43088790>If anyone likes your work enough to show it to others, then you’re not a true artistKeep telling yourself that’s why your fics get no views
>>43088923Surely someone has written an Apple parents snuff fic
>>43088567That doesn’t make fanfiction postmodern. Fanfiction has been around for thousands of years, dating back at least to ancient Greek stories about their gods and non-canonical books of the Bible, progressing through hagiographies of saints and stories of chivalrous knights, and only being denigrated as “fanfiction” in the past fifty years or so. If anything, fanfiction tends to be antipostmodern because it frequently accepts unquestioningly scenarios invented by others (the source material) instead of requiring a deconstruction.
>>43089019I knew you would try to use this argument, which is completely irrelevant.We are not talking about the Bible. We are talking about a little girl's cartoon and trying to write stories more serious in scope than what the original cartoon intended. This is 100% postmodern, no matter how much you cope about it.>instead of requiring a deconstruction.Reworking the show's worldbuilding to be more nuanced involves implicit deconstruction and reconstruction.
is it normal to have a read bookshelf, a liked bookshelf, a sub favorited bookshelf, a favorited bookshelf, and a super favorited bookshelf?
>>43089089I just have a shelf for favs, completed stories I want to read, incomplete stories I want to see completed, and one for my fav ship.
>>43089089>sub favorited bookshelf, a favorited bookshelf, and a super favorited bookshelfDefinitely not. Why can't the first two just go in Liked?
>>43089035If fanfiction is so postmodern, then where is its rejection of universal truth? Where is its critique of the self as socially constructed? Where is its pervasive and unrelenting irony?A fanfiction narrative (FIM or otherwise) is likely to accept the source material as canon. If you deviate from canon, readers will complain unless you mark the story as a AU; canon functions as a kind of absolute truth. But postmodernism is allergic to the idea of absolute truth. Adding to canon (which is something every new piece of official media does) is not intrinsically a critique or deconstruction, nor is it necessarily ironic. There is nothing postmodern about a straightforward Sparity shipfic written by a 13 year old who self-inserts as Spike, even though the fact that they get married at the end adds to canon in a significant way.Fanfiction plots are usually familiar genres, like adventure and romance, and are usually played straight. Fanfiction romances usually end with characters getting together; fanfiction adventures usually end with a climactic battle where an evil villain is defeated. It is much less common for fanfiction to display characters getting together and then being unhappy about it, or characters defeating someone who they thought was a villain but who actually had good motives. There’s nothing postmodern about these, either.Lastly, if you knew I was going to make this argument, why didn’t you try to counter it in the first place? I think you’re pretending to be better prepared than you are.
>>43089116because i like them different amounts. and am autistic, but that probably goes without saying.
>>43088567>>43089019>>43089035>>43089120>>43089035I like reading stories about small colorful horses
>>43089120>If fanfiction is so postmodern, then where is its rejection of universal truth?In the dozens of specific fan interpretations of any character all co-existing in a fandom space. And dozens of fanfics taking place during different periods of canon, some contradicting later canon events.>critique of the self as socially constructedIn the implication that the concept of the target audience is a social construct, and a little girls' cartoon can be enjoyed and expanded upon by people outside of its target audience.>Where is its pervasive and unrelenting irony?It doesn't have to be irony. Irony is a buzzword on modern 4chan anyway that basically means "thing I dislike".Some of the most popular, well-known, and influential MLP fanfics include combining the setting with a gritty post-apocalyptic world of another property, one of the primary cast being turned into a psychotic maniac, and a background character living through a perpetual existential nightmare. All of these have an implicit degree of deconstructing canon to be more "mature".>everything elseYou're missing the forest for the trees. The existence of MLP fanfiction by itself is postmodernist. Under the traditionalist or modernist lens, trying to write serious fiction based on a little girls' cartoon is pointless. Being a little girls' cartoon, it is not supposed to have value or depth beyond that of its perceived target demographic, and as an adult writer, you're supposed to take more conventionally adult subject matter as inspiration. Under pre-modernist lens, you're essentially wasting time trying to assign extra depth to something that was never intended to have it.>astly, if you knew I was going to make this argument, why didn’t you try to counter it in the first place?Because I hoped you would have enough self-awareness to not resort to muh Bible fanfic as if that's the same thing as a little girls' cartoon fanfic.
>>43088643No.
>fimfaggots talk about postmodernism>argues about terms about what post modernism supposedly is instead of how it actually operates irl. Proof that this place is full of midwits and pseuds.
>>43089181>the dozens of specific fan interpretations of any character all co-existingIf that's all it takes to be postmodern, then the Bible is postmodern because the canonical Gospels present four different interpretations of Jesus. I don't just mean that the accounts are inconsistent (which could be explained by human error) but that each author emphasizes different themes, even when the accounts are consistent. I don't think you believe that the Bible is postmodern, and I'm not claiming that you do—but your reasoning applies equally well to that belief, so I don't think it's good evidence of postmodernity.>the concept of the target audience is a social constructThis is not a critique of the self, though. A work that addressed questions like "who is a fan?" and "what does it mean to be a fan?" could be a critique of the self. Critiquing the concept of a target audience is critique of society, and that kind of critique has deep historical roots and is not specifically postmodern. In addition, to the extent that fanfiction does critique the concept of a target audience, usually it's no more than the implicit acknowledgement that the author and reader are not members of the target audience.>It doesn't have to be ironyNo, irony is the characteristic tone of postmodernism. Someone who is sincere is very unlikely to be postmodernist.>Irony is a buzzword on modern 4chan anyway that basically means "thing I dislike"I agree with this, though.>combining the setting with a gritty post-apocalyptic world of another property, one of the primary cast being turned into a psychotic maniac, and a background character living through a perpetual existential nightmareThese are all incongruous but not ironic. Irony involves saying one thing and meaning its opposite. Ironic would be if the gritty post-apocalyptic world were somehow a better place to live than cartoony Equestria, or if the psychotic maniac were improving society, or if the background character was, despite her belief to the contrary, secretly remembered by everyone.>The existence of MLP fanfiction by itself is postmodernistI don't see any evidence for this beyond your bare assertion.>Being a little girls' cartoon, it is not supposed to have value or depth beyond that of its perceived target demographic, and as an adult writer, you're supposed to take more conventionally adult subject matter as inspirationThis is again a sociological critique. All eras have had topics that they think are Serious and Deep and Profound, usually because they are relevant to problems of their day. Most eras believe that children's entertainment is the opposite (and if you've ever been forced to watch Cocomelon you'll agree). No era that I know of has taken children's entertainment that seriously (though I would argue we should take it more seriously than we do). But that's a critique of what our society considers to be important, not of the self or the nature of being or anything like that.
>>43088296It was A Short Trip Home. Here's the story if you're interested:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/544043/night-of-the-autumn-moonIt didn't get a ton of views but I think I did a reasonably good job with it.
>>43089376I don't argue with walls of text, so I'll stick with a specific thesis from your post.>No, irony is the characteristic tone of postmodernism. Someone who is sincere is very unlikely to be postmodernist.By this line of thinking, no deconstruction is truly postmodernist unless it has an explicitly humorous tone. Which would mean things like Lord of the Flies, The Watchmen, or Spec Ops The Line are not actually postmodernist simply because they maintain a mostly serious tone throughout. Or that, generally, taking an element of the narrative and treating it with more scrutiny than a given previous work in the genre, is not postmodernist, even though that's the definition of deconstruction. It's a ridiculously strict criterium by which almost nothing qualifies as postmodernism, even though pretty much everything in modern culture at the very least has signs of postmodernism simply because of the time it was produced in.
>>43088168If you like cuckolding, adultery, zebradom and drama, this is the story for you. It was written for the 2025/26 zebradom contest. Pretty dark and sad. lolSweetie is a fucking backstabbing, lying, zebra whore.https://www.fimfiction.net/story/586417/mr-brightstripe
>>43089475>If you like cuckolding, adultery, zebradom Why the fuck would I like any of those things?
>>43089480You are involved in the inherently cucked medium of horseprose, unlike the Aryan Gods of >greentext.
>>43089292Lame. Get better taste.
Would you spell it MILF or milf
>>43089527M.I.L.F.
>>43089472You're assuming that irony is necessarily humorous. While irony can be used for humorous purposes, it's not intrinsically humorous. Dramatic irony, for example, is often not humorous: Romeo drinks poison because he believes Juliet is dead, but the audience knows she is not.Irony is characteristic of postmodernism because one of the core beliefs of postmodernism is that everything is relative and there are no absolutes. If it's true that everything is relative, then their rule that everything is relative must itself be relative, leaving them unable to make definite statements about anything; the postmodernist embraces this indeterminacy and turns it into irony. A postmodern statement about anything carries the double meaning of being a true statement on its surface while, to the postmodernist, also being falsified by the relative nature of everything. For a postmodernist, existence is ironic: They cannot make a statement like Descartes's "I think; I am" without qualifying it with "that's how it seems to me, but others might disagree." There is nothing humorous about such a stance except that it has been taken seriously for decades.Fanfiction is not so nihilistic. A lot of it leans on familiar storytelling tropes that have been around for hundreds or even thousands of years, not on metaphysics and epistemology. Frequently fanfiction is too naive and not self-aware enough to be postmodern. Even when it's not naive, usually it does not embrace the postmodern narrative of relativism.>taking an element of the narrative and treating it with more scrutiny than a given previous work in the genre, is not postmodernist, even though that's the definition of deconstructionI think that's the definition in casual circles. I'm not a philosopher, but I believe they use the term differently, and I believe that it is firmly a part of postmodernism. It's something to do with Jacques Derrida, and as much as I understand it, it's not an analysis or critique; it's something like the idea that if you examine a text carefully enough, you will discover self-contradictions that render the text meaningless.>>43089475Why am I bothering to defend fanfiction
>>43089292Everyone has a price. What's yours?
>>43088588>muh plot twistsPlot twists are a myth invented by the underread
>>43089711>Why am I bothering to defend fanfictionHey, everything exists on a spectrum. Even fanfic quality.
>>43089527Spell it M(other)I('d)L(ike)(to)F(uck)
>>43089738If you want to discuss a commission, then PM me. You won't, because you don't.
>>43089738>>43089765Do it, commission him to do loli preg. Demand lots of emphasis on her being underage and pregnant from old man Anon (he's only like 25 but that's old to kids)
>>43089769Sadly he doesn't do anthro.
>>43089895You say that like it's a bad thing
>>43089895I've written one, just to experiment with it:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/522544/preposterously-pregnant-pony-problemsI know you're just making excuses, anyway.
>>43089895Good, humanized is far superior.
>>43087486The side view is alright, I'm more interested in those thick haunches of hers rather than the belly.
>>43090308I'd like to rock her apple bushel back-and-forth for a little while.
>>43089952What are your rates again?
>>43090336You can find them here:https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/977619/commissionsIt bears repeating that I prefer trades. Right now, I'm saddened by the total lack of best pony in the zebradom contest, and will happily write for art of her getting salaciously striped.
>>43090349>He enjoyed STRIPED contentThe fuck, man.
>>43090349That's a high effort false flag by this thread's standards, but you should still kill yourself for shitposting like this. And if it's a genuine post, you should kill yourself regardless.
Experiencing temporal difficulties, in>/FSBC/This is a cute fic. Young Twi a cute, to be sure, and it's never a bad day for the site to be graced by such light-hearted, very "pony" fics. Now, there is talk of gallows in sayings and stories and the like, but imo that alone doesn't ruin a story's ponyness; the current Equestria setting is what matters. We've been lucky to get quite a few decently written fics in a row, too! It is very much not a given on the site, but this is written very competently. Well, even aside from some minor stylistic choices or repetitions.As for the actual story, I am hoping it's not as obvious as it seems from the first chapter on. The way the author makes ABSOLUTELY SURE that we all know it's Celestia makes me question if there will be more to the mystery. I think so? As entertaining as watching Twilight go about her day and her silly mystery quest is, for a 60k story, I'd maybe expect something more in terms of scope. The chapter we ended on felt a little different, so I really could see something else being there. Not that the fic needs it. If it remains the obvious "mystery" story that it has been so far, I'll enjoy it perfectly well, too. Honestly, it's much closer to SoL than Mystery, and the lack of the former tag is strange. It's also tagged [Comedy], but we all know what the tag means (or rather doesn't).The references are in a curious spot. They are done pretty tastefully, but there are quite a lot of them—both the "you know how the show goes later, right?"-style references, and fandom references or other winks at the audience. I am usually not too fond of the latter, and so stuff like the Nyx reference was really pushing it. Still, part of the fun of writing a pre-show non-AU story is showing how it ties into the plot, so I can't blame it too much for the first kind.And I could try saying more about the characters being fun, the story being enjoyable, or the "mystery" premise being just a veil covering an SoL fic, but I'd rather withhold my judgment until week 2. So far, it's not a story that stands out in any way, but it also doesn't try to. This is a pretty well-made example of a straightforward, sincere fanfic.Next week: the second half, where we'll be finding out whodunit.After that, The Archetypist. It's at 52k, though, so we could either split it in half or do it in one week. Any preferences? Personally, I've been having a hard time starting the fics before Sunday, and >50k on the morning of the club is a little tough, especially when it's an author like CiG, but don't let that stop (You)! And on that note, sorry for not responding to some posts last week.
>>43090297So you're saying you'd be down for some humanized Flutterdash?
Eugh, I just watched A New Generation after hearing that it "was the only part of g5 made with passion" and that it was some sort of g4 bad future AU and I even went in anticipating a couple interesting scenes which turned out to be completely invented by some fanartist or another. I felt physically ill and severely underwhelmed after actually watching it and now I'm left blueballed on the whole "bringing peace to the timeline where the heroes lost" thing. Any good fics with that sort of premise? I've already read https://www.fimfiction.net/story/303160/synthetic-bottled-sunlight (future where Flim&Flam took over Equestria, based on a throwaway scene from Cutie Re-Mark) which was really good, and the shorter https://www.fimfiction.net/story/169016/if-you-came-to-conquer (Nightmare Moon wins and only realizes what a mistake it was centuries after the world has withered away) sort of counts and was also good.
>>43090663>Anon actually thought "This magic was not yours to give" was realKEKThe original G5 didn't have that solid of a connection with G4 aside from the scene at the beginning, which you could headcanon away as M6 being mythical figures in this world. But then they brought in Twilight's ghost and tried to explicitly connect it to G4, seemingly without care for how much this shits on G4's legacy.>bringing peace to the timeline where the heroes lostRelatively short, but you'll probably like it https://www.fimfiction.net/story/240152/the-motion-of-the-starsI'll have to check out the Flim Flam fic, I've been wondering if anyone developed that premise
>>43090663>ANG bad>SBS goodAre you just stupid?
>>43090697Read the club discussion and temper your expectations.
>>43090409Okay, this time I actually don't have a lot to say. I guess today we're having sugary-sweet fluff with an extra helping of diabetes. I was looking forward to this one because I really like the author's Roseluck fic and was interested how they'd tackle Comedy, but I think they were right to not tag the fic as such before caving. This is just cutesy SoL fluff about tween Twilight and Spike with only the barest hints of a conflict. But for some reason, it's stretched into 59k words and took the author 3 years to finish. What?At least it's pretty well-written, if a bit too purple at times for my liking. Like I said, it's not much of a comedy. The closest it came to being funny was Twilight comparing her slice of cake being stolen years ago to the fictional detective's crime-fighting seeping into her personal life (I appreciate that the story did not rehash this joke over and over as a lesser author would've done).On that note, I love it when fics acknowledge that Daring Do is not the only fiction that exists in Equestria. But then again, this author is always great at realistic worldbuilding. To put so much nuance into even something as mundane as the castle's bakery is nothing short of impressive.I guess it's good for what it's trying to do, definitely better than last week's fic for me. I just don't really think SoL fluff needs to be this long. I'll try to finish it, but can't guarantee I'll have much more to say next week.>Nyx referenceWhich chapter? I must've missed it. >ArchetypistNice. No need to rush it, the regular two weeks is fine.
>>43090409Also, I think I found the real reason you chose this fic for the club.
>>43090740I didn't find it purple, but I have a higher tolerance for words, so that's to be expected. Other than that, yes, I agree with pretty much all of this. I feel like there's really not much in the fic that one could draw different conclusions about.>don't really think SoL fluff needs to be this longI mean, if it's good, there's no reason why it should end faster. I agree it's unusual, but the pacing didn't feel artificially bloated or anything, at least in the first half.>>43090755It's a little funny to me that people keep assuming this but I wear the flag only for the bookclub.This fic was one of the very few I added to the list as a suggestion out of my own initiative since the Rosefic was overall pretty good despite some questionable choices (I will never forget the bizarre town orgy holiday chapter). And with that in mind, I think that is the "vibes" of the author seeping into his stories. Write what you know, as they say. Thankfully Cake Thief doesn't have anything absurd yet, but the repeated mentions of esoteric stuff like tarot readings or numerology as established practices alongside regular pony magic align with that extravagant personality.
>>43090628I'm down for that.
>>43090409I hope prompt for this fic idea was 'Celestia pours one out for the homies.' and then the author got creative with it. honestly it seems... completely mediocre, and I kind of hate to say that. In theory I should like the fic but the execution leaves me wanting. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but the fic starts off saying it's a teenage Twi, which just immediately starts working against the fic. Everything would've been better if Twilight was even younger. A fic that seems to want to be cute should not be operating with a cast of teens. I think the only part I found cute so far was spike curling up in his basket after he asks if Twilight thinks NMM is real or something. This is not cute foal kino as it seems it should be. And I'm afraid that the entire reason that they're teens is for this random ass crush side plot.This leads me into the writing. When this guy was introduced I got my first taste of confusion (although I did interpret this specific time correctly) as it talked about getting frosting on his star and then like 5 pages later mentioned that his star that it keeps talking about is a splotch of fur on the center of his face. The second moment was the month/year/cutie mark numbers scene. About 1 page in I understood it, then by page 5 it had lost me again cuz it just kept going and going and I'm not sure if what it was trying to say was different or not than what I immediately accepted in the first page of it and I truly didn't care enough to double check. The third moment was the book trunk incident. It spends so many words talking about what is happening to the truck and I really don't know why, just like the it did with the month math. After the pages of detail about whatever was happening I had an idea about what had happened that wasn't confirmed until pages later when she still has the books and again when they go into the tower and find the top of the trunk because it just isn't clear. And a bonus, Twilight can't even properly describe the tower the trunk hit. I thought for sure it was Celestia's bedroom tower, then they start talking about a random noble. Twilight Sparkle who practically lives in the castle thinks a random noble lives in what I can only assume is the only Tower that directly rivals Celestia's? I don't even think nobles live in the castle at all. Twilight doesn't know that there's an entirely magically isolated Tower on the castle grounds? The description as usual had me completely oblivious as to whose tower it was in the end. I didn't even know if it was on castle grounds or not until they have to go to the castle to get to it, and yes, this is even after one of the very first descriptors is that the trunk flew onto castle grounds.
>>43090836Pretty much every time Twilight is alone (or with spike) or talking to an adult the fic is fine. But just fine. The highlight so far is definitely Luna's tower. The descriptions of all the books and artifacts and rooms are very nice. Having a flag older than the princesses in there is especially kino.The teens are annoying and completely unnecessary so far, it of course could've worked better and still included all of them if they were foals but whatever. Almost everyone and their mom being in the fic is also kind of annoying. Derpy working in the royal kitchens with her mom is a neat little idea but I don't know what it brings to the fic. Especially when she says things like "she's just like me fr fr">Turnip Road and lil truck show upWhat are the chances. He's even one of the better characters in the fic so far>>43090409>This is a cute fic. Young Twi a cute, to be sureThis is exactly what I'm talking about, if I'm to clump this fic in with 'young Twi' fics, then it's instantly the least cute one. She's barely young and that hangs over the entire fic and especially over any scene that is supposed to be cute. The trunk scene for instance I think would've been completely different if she was a foal. As it is, it's a teenage Twi who still doesn't have adequate control of her magic having surge in public that sends the metal reinforced lid of a trunk flying miles away to potentially kill someone (which immediately makes her think Celestia might hang her???) while the public backs away from her and stares and she starts crying and covering her face. That is not a cute scene. That's fucking sad. No one even helps her until she makes a desperate plea to the crowd. There is nothing cute or lighthearted here. It's also harder to believe it's even a possible scenario when she's as old as she is that she wants to bring an entire heavy ass trunk full of books to her parents house via taxi. It would've all been much less depressing and far cuter if she was a foal I'm sure, as would every other scene except maybe the tower.>never a bad day for the site to be graced by such light-hearted, very "pony" fics. Now, there is talk of gallows in sayings and stories and the likekek>I am hoping it's not as obvious as it seems from the first chapter on>for a 60k story, I'd maybe expect something more in terms of scope. The chapter we ended on felt a little different>Honestly, it's much closer to SoL than Mysteryyeah completely agree, this fic seems really long for what it is so far
>>43090740>I guess today we're having sugary-sweet fluff with an extra helping of diabetes.I just don't see it.>was interested how they'd tackle Comedy, but I think they were right to not tag the fic as such before caving. This is just cutesy SoL fluff about tween Twilight and Spike with only the barest hints of a conflict. But for some reason, it's stretched into 59k words and took the author 3 years to finish. What?Completely agree lol, the size of the fic is perplexing and the [Comedy] is completely unnecessary as always>if a bit too purple at times for my likingagreed also>On that note, I love it when fics acknowledge that Daring Do is not the only fiction that exists in EquestriaYeah that's nice, and on aa related note it helps Turnip's scene be as good as it was>>43090755I kek'd at this as well, but it's different rarifags
>>43090780>(I will never forget the bizarre town orgy holiday chapter)I didn't have much time to discuss the Rosefic with the club at the time (despite being the one who suggested it), but I wanted to say that I don't see anything wrong with the festival. It wasn't even described in an especially lewd manner, being completely tonally consistent with the rest of the fic.>>43090836I agree that some of the descriptions feel like they're beating around the bush a bit. The month/year/cutie mark scene seemed to be emphasizing the pattern in the years and months when the thefts occurred and setting up how Twilight may fit into all of this, but I remember thinking it was a bit redundant in its description. The trunk scene goes on for a little too long, but it still ended up amusing for me. You're definitely taking this slapstick bit too seriously, though I guess it could do without the brief moment of crying. What annoyed me was that, as far as I understood, only the top part of the trunk hit the window, but the author confusingly kept referring to it as "the trunk" even though all the books inside are mentioned as still being on the ground.The tower was explicitly referred to as the southernmost tower in the fic, so no confusion for me there. And it's plausible Twilight wouldn't know everything about the castle since she spends more time studying than exploring it.
>>43090755Not the same Raraflaggots. The book club one is alright.
>>43090992>What annoyed me was that, as far as I understood, only the top part of the trunk hit the window, but the author confusingly kept referring to it as "the trunk" even though all the books inside are mentioned as still being on the ground.I was gonna say exactly this but I felt that I had ranted about the trunk for long enough but you're exactly right and it was a large contributor to muddling the specifics of the scene. 'the trunk' when in reality 80% of the trunk and all of its contents were still with her. They even get to the tower and continue to say 'the trunk' when at that point it's just like 3 pieces of wood and two bands of copper.
>>43090349You're not me. I hate zebradom shit.
>>43091143based superior Rarifag
>>43090786What about semi-humanized where they're human but have stuff like wings and can still do magic?
>>43090740>Which chapter? I must've missed it. Oh, I somehow missed that part of your post. It's when Twi's talking to Spike about NMM and the books she's taking home, and she says that she can't discount the possibility of some cult secretly trying to bring NMM to Equestria. That has to be a Past Sins reference.>>43090836>completely mediocre, and I kind of hate to say thatIt didn't blow me away, and I can't really see it as better than the Rosefic at the moment, but 'mediocre' is way too harsh. It's a little good. Yeah, going with a younger Twi would have been better—and I kept being surprised that she's older whenever the fic mentioned it—but what we have here is pretty solid, imo.>leads me into the writingNow, that's definitely not right! A few things are a little overly elaborate, maybe, especially that scene with the months/cutie marks that you mention, but it is probably still better written than 95%+ of fics on the site and like 75% of what we're reading in the bookclub. I suppose it's a matter of preference, but I'd much rather tolerate an overwrought description here and there than the mistakes and simple, bland prose we're seeing so often. This one has some flavor! Maybe the cook added too much sugar to the recipe, but that's still a really, really important part of the writing.>>43090907>But just fine. The highlight so far is definitely Luna's tower.I would say it's fine++, but if the SoL isn't speaking to you, then this isn't really a story I'd fight to defend. It is what it is.>What are the chances. I made a note of it, too. See, he is relevant! His son totally deserves a tag. Derpy is here either because the author wanted to give her a backstory OR as a fandom nod. You get to pick what you believe was the cause.>'young Twi' fics, then it's instantly the least cute oneBased on past weeks, I don't have nearly the same affinity for "foal Twilight" stories as you do, though I had a brief moment when I was reading it (I think right after the baker colt started hitting on Twi) and thought that you'd dislike the age chosen by the author. Looks like I was right, ha ha. To me, it's not really a huge difference whether a fic is about a foal Twi or middle school Twi.>That is not a cute scene. That's fucking sad.It's almost all in her head. I think you're overreacting about the scene. Nothing *really* happened there.>>43091143It is an anti-best pony conspiracy, I'm telling you.Or merely an anti-flaggot conspiracy, which would be a good thing.
>>43091176So long as they fuck and Fluttershy has big old titters it's fine.
>>43091519What's wrong with big young titters?
>>43091623I like them old timey torpedo titties you know?
>>43091645But torpedoes go on budding chests, silly.
>>43091681Get out of my big tiddy Fluttershy fantasy, please. I didn't ask you to come in here.
>>43090780>I wear the flag only for the bookclub.Even though I know this in principle, I have a mental association between a Rarity flag and Kassaz. Every time a see a Rarity flag anywhere on the board, I can't stop myself from assuming it's him.
>>43091960kek
>>43091960Yet another reason to bully every raricuck you come across.
I like all ponies.
>>43092094I like all cute ponies.
>>43092099Exactly, I like all ponies.
>>43092099there are non-cute ponies?
>>43092101
>>43092104Yes. Sometimes, ponies are too hot to be cute.
>>43092104that's like saying a puppy isn't cute because you vomited all over it. he's cute in his natural state.
>>43092106>he's cutelmao this nigga gay
>>43092100Fics where magical lesbian pregnancies are commonplace in Equestria?
>>43092107And yet, far from the faggiest post ITT.
>>43092113Don't consider one evil worse than other or you'll try to tolerate the lesser one.
>>43090697>thought "This magic was not yours to give" was realI feel like that one post of a fujo playing Deltarune for the first time and finding out Spamton is just some retarded little gremlin and not a tall handsome tumblr sexyman like in all the fanart.I'd seen stuff like that in my peripheral vision while looking for G4 art/fics in the past, so without any reason to investigate further I just kind of assumed it was actually based on something from G5. >I'll have to check out the Flim Flam fic, I've been wondering if anyone developed that premiseThe first chapter was originally a oneshot, and if you don't want to read the whole story it still works well as one. I just left it at that at first, but after eventually reading one or two of the following chapters I got into it and after a couple more I got really hooked and binged the rest of it as fast as my irl schedule could allow.A bit of a warning (sort-of spoilers) but the on-the-run setup and accompanying oppressive atmosphere fade away over the course of act 1, giving way to something like a bittersweet, measured optimism, to the tune of "things got real fucked, what can we salvage?". The author still manages to create some good tension for the final stretch, and I was satisfied by how it ended. It probably won't appeal to everyone who wanted the rest of it to be a complete tonal match to the first chapter, but I enjoyed every part of it.>The Motion of the StarsI've only gotten 2/5 of the way through, as I ended up busier than expected today and couldn't read it all in one sitting like I'd planned, but so far I love both the prose and dialogue. Thanks for the rec! It sort of reminds me of https://www.fimfiction.net/story/144961/darkest-before-dawn , a shorter one where NMM is defeated by the elements but day never returns because she'd already slain Celestia.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/578488/the-unrequited-thespian13k, coco pommel x celestiaCute story about Coco Pommel stepping down from her role as the head of the community theater thing from that one episode, and her chance meeting with Celestia, who'd recently stepped down from a leadership role herself. I was delighted with all the ways the author found to relate the two characters, and Coco is a cute character so that certainly helped too.
>>43092131When does the anal come in?
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/134645/a-taste-of-the-good-lifeThink this one was offered as a possible bookclub read, and it's...I mean it's competently written but it's another one where it kind of rubs me the wrong way.The starting premise is simple: A high profile stallion chef stays in Ponyville after his restaurant gets fucked up and finds an old cafe that he decides to refurbish. Said cafe is being inhabited by an orphan runaway Scootaloo. Parenthood ensues.That premise right there could work: guy who doesn't want to stay in a Hallmark-ass town learns the value of friendship and family when he fixes up a restaurant with an orphan inside it.But halfway through it kind of pivots to this dumb shit regarding Scootaloo's family. It's back in the days where it wasn't just her being from a bad home, but from comical levels of dramatic abuse. In this case, Scootaloo's the bastard daughter of a noblewoman and a pegasus drummer, with her mom's abusive cuckold husband knowing Scoots wasn't his kid and having said drummer disappeared. The mom blames Scootaloo and is abusive to her as a result of Scootaloo's existence ruining her life or something.Maybe that's all well and good as a backstory, but the pivot isn't about chef guy choosing between his life as a high profile chef in the big city and the kid he's developed paternal instincts for. It's about him starting to fuck Scootaloo's abusive mom and trying to find a way to repair the rift between them. The rift from Scootaloo's mom being horribly abusive towards her. For some reason it gives me the same vibes as the one with Chrysalis being an abusive mom towards her mentally disabled inbred daughter. I dunno what was going on with old fanfic authors but they really liked to apparently have kids get beat up and then learn to forgive the parent that beat them up.
>>43092143>It's about him starting to fuck Scootaloo's abusive momHoly shit, fucking BASED. Fic of the year.
>>43092140No, Celestia's not a futa in this fic, so she doesn't come in Coco even once.
>>43092143>>43092147>adopt a kid>start fucking the kid's mom as well so if she complains point out that you are now her dad twice over and have double the authority over her
>>43092131I read this one a while ago and really liked it.If we ever do another handful of short stories for the club, I nominate this one.
>>43088340>Thoughts on non-Fimfic horsewords?Deviantart has a shit user experience for fics. FF.net is pretty dead now, isn't it? And AO3 has just always seemed like a dumpster fire to me.>>43089120>readers will complain unless you mark the story as a AUMost readers don't care about that. The lack of a [Dark] tag is basically the only tag complaint you'll see. Readers almost universally accept that a story will deviate away from the source material as it goes on and, back in the airing days, it was an unwritten rule that anything that aired after the story started didn't count.>>43089527MILF.
>>43092173>Deviantart has a shit user experienceFTFY.I have a profound dislike for repositories that describe themselves as "archives", but at least """A"""O3 isn't subject to the laws of Cuck Island like Fimmy.
>>43092143>going for the horrid hag instead of showing his adoptive daughteru some tender love
>>43092194>molesting the filly you adoptedTicketREVOKED
>>43092143Why would he ever even meet scoots mom? Or is she Ponyville's only nobility?
>>43092208>forcing a runaway back into their abuser's grasp is a-ok because it doesn't go against my marxist-feminist indoctrinationPathetic.
>>43092218He caters an event that a bunch of snobs attend.
>>43092228As everyone knows, Karl Marx in 1865 wrote his famous book "Raping Kids Is Bad, Actually", which somehow caused the bolshevik revolution.
>>43092256but what if the chikun consents??
luna being banished 1000 years ago is too long there's no way celestia would remember her at all unless she wrote that shit down. should retcon it to 100 years maxalso what happened in the years inbetween lunas banishment and return? fuckall? i was thinking about this because in a european history book it said that there was 100 years of relative peace after napoleon. relative is the key word therei'm writing a fic where celestia loses her memory after falling a height or being struck by a branch and she thinks its ancient equestria again. feel free to steal the idea
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/575983/the-sun-little-filliesThis has me seething and malding all over. Maybe I'm the only reader in existence who bought the Daybreaker act but her not showing any improvements to anyone, barely acknowledging Parvas like twice after 6 months and babying herself and Twilight more and more drove me up the wall, showing how easy it was for her to soften up just makes the fact that she spent 1000 years being a cunt worse, and makes the fact that she's still actively being a cunt when not playing tea-dates (Abyssinia anyone?) worse still.Then the rebellion happens and oh my god Shining Armor just keeps getting epic owned by smug Daybreaker and her facts and logic and guess what Cadence just had mommy issues and needed a hug LOL fuck convictions I guess no one believed in freedom or peace they just all had stupid personal grudges against DB and when those fall apart they just let DB get away scot-free.Actually DB was such a good ruler that those who deposed her WANT HER BACK ROFLMAOLKGKSBGLAKRDQPSLEPSLC. WHY DID I BUY INTO THE AUTHOR'S SETUP OF DB AS A VILLAIN TO BE REDEEMED. Clearly no one else did and the fic itself just screams how much of a perfect leader she was anyways. Maybe the author intended to show her evil side by implying she jailed Machiavelli for promoting dangerous ideas but by the end I'm convinced that they just caught the guy streaking and she just chanced upon him on the dungeons. So DB gets what she deserves (no punishment plus an easy life plus a new daughter) and she then gets the satisfaction of telling those who want her return that she's not fixing anyone's problems anymore and if there is instability none of it it's her fault at all and fuck trials anyways (why is everyone so quick to dismiss trials and immediately group them with on-the-spot execution??? is this a good thing??)Btw her biggest sin is tranforming all ponies into hyper-competitive treacherous conniving assholes but all the ponies she sees giving speeches are to be trusted and everyone in ponyville is quick to accept her in paradise.It has good parts I'm sure, otherwise I wouldn't be so upset right now and wishing to write a story set in the same universe to get some catharsis. Yeah I guess it has good or very good parts, they are in there but my eyes are too red and unfocused and I'm too retarded to find them. In case the author reads this sorry for the melty and your tale made me feel very strong emotions, you know so that's good strong emotions are good
>>43092140When you learn to let go of one-note jokes from 10 years ago
>>43092326>mortal cuck projecting his limited mental capacity onto godsSad. Many such cases
>>43092359KekThis was written by a resident sunfag who wanted to make a sweet DB Twiadopt story I think, it was never going to actually get serious or interesting
>>43092359There was a club about ithttps://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42152381/#42167122
>>43092472She's more talented than that. I'm sure she can get more than one note from it.
>>43092256Iirc Marx let one of his kids starve to death in his apartment because he was too much of an autistic wordcel to get a real job.
>>43092326>there's no way celestia would remember her at all unless she wrote that shit down.The show starts with a written account of the events leading up to Luna's banishment
>>43092359You, like many readers, were fooled into thinking this story was something other than cutesy Twiadopt. But that's what it is. It's not about politics. It's not about a rebellion, even though a rebellion happens. It's about Mombreaker. Mombreaker is the point of the story. Mombreaker was always the point, so the story's weaknesses are all in service of cutesy Twiadopt Mombreaker. If you keep that in mind, the story isn't so bad. There's a thing it's trying to do, and as long as you focus on that and ignore everything else, it does its thing pretty well. I didn't enjoy the story much, but I could see what it was trying to do, so it didn't make me seethe.
>>43092359Fae writes slop and needs to be beaten with sticks, yes.
I'm reading a manga where a shota falls in love with his new oppai teacher so his childhood friend who is into him goes full mesugaki trying to get take him back and flashes her buds at him. Any fics with a similar setup?
>>43092672I believe I've read fics about Rumble crushing hard on Cheerilee.I'm sure some of them must have the CMC or DT try to meddle.
Finished The Immortal Game yesterday. I like Titan. Titan is pretty cool. :)
>>43092359I never got the idea that she was portrayed as a perfect ruler, considering she starts wars for no reason, likes to hunt down and murder petty criminals, and has everyone around her terrified of her, just that they were so used to an all powerful authoritarian they had no idea how to operate without her.
>>43092708That's not how I imagined him
>>43092656>were fooledWere you fooled or were you deluded?
>>43092714If the character's flaws don't cause the character any struggle in the story, they're not real flaws. One can say Pinkamena isn't perfect because she's insane, but that doesn't matter if it doesn't cause her any tangible problems in the story.
>>43092760Incorrect, Pinkamena is perfect because she's insane.
>>43092760I don’t like the concept of “character flaws” since people who apply them or talk about making fictional characters like that are usually operating out of a frame of people being inherently good, but they have to “add” flaws in order to make the character and story interesting. Instead of operating out of a frame of inherent fallibility. With the nature of the story naturally following from that. >>43092777“insane” women are a liability. They are not attractive. I unfortunately know from having to deal with them myself.
>>43092359You aren't the guy who messaged me asking to write a sequel, are you?
>>43092812>They are not attractive.You don't have to lie just because you got with a 3dpd and had to deal with the inevitable consequences
>>43092669I was born into this world writing familyslop and I'll leave this world writing familyslop.
>>43092708>black and white OC alicornAlright buddy
>>43092964It's a monochrome image.The alicorn could be red and silver for all we know.
>>43092812Landmines are pure sex though.
>>43092979Lies, they are very impure.
>>43092964Still would
>>43092812The idea that character flaws need to be very discrete attributes that are resolved via the events of the story makes a lot of writing far less interesting. I'm not really sure how this meme got started but everyone seems to think that's the 'correct' way to write characters, give them one or maybe two obvious blind spots in their otherwise great behaviour, almost always linked to past trauma, and have those flaws get directly addressed and corrected, or occasionally have them fail due to those traits if it's an evil/disliked character. That kind of arc can be satisfying, but when I think of really great stories they're usually packed with characters who make mistakes due to not having enough information rather than some personalized flaw.
>>43092359>just let DB get away scot-free.Really? Celestia managed to live but she doesn't have her empire and is actively scared of taking power, plus she has to live with the fact that Luna's dead. And she's living in Ponyville, which is the worst possible punishment.
>>43093003>but when I think of really great stories they're usually packed with characters who make mistakes due to not having enough information rather than some personalized flaw.Curious. Can you give some examples of what you're talking about?
>>43093003>usually packed with characters who make mistakes due to not having enough information rather than some personalized flaw.I dunno, stuff like this pisses me off. Like in Wheels of Time how 99% of the conflicts would be resolved if the idiot characters just sat down and talked.
>>43093054The unwillingness to take power or responsibility at the end was MEANT to be a flaw, if I ever get around to the sequel it's slightly more political and focuses on her actively being afraid of Daybreaker and the personal consequences of that. Though if people expect fucking war room intrigue and shit lmao it's a momlestia story where she's in therapy, not a retelling of Equestria At War.
>>43093150Real talk do you have anything that isn't fucking adoption
>>43093247I've got a twipie jester/princess one and I want to do one where Twilight getting poofy alicorn wings is like the pegasus equivalent of her suddenly getting big boobs, does that work?
>>43093113___ is the exemplary rationalfic because of this: the character decisions mostly revolve around the information available to them at the time and the conflicts often arise from gaps in it.There's a big caveat to this in that the main plot driver (and therefore ultimate conflict driver) is Twilight's character flaw of hating Celestia. But the caveat for that seems to be that character-flaw-seether-anon seems to define a character flaw as a flaw that the character overcomes as past of her development, and Twilight never overcomes this one, despite her otherwise extensive development.
>>43093255NTA, but I liked the Twipie one, even if it was light on Twipie. Jester guy was cool.Tell me more about the poof.
>>43093326Twilight's new wings are all big and foofy so all the pegasi in Ponyville start hitting on her and doing things like giving her cool rocks or showing how much they can puff out their chests or how cool their nests are.
>>43093335I am intrigued. I hope you can get it out soon.
>>43093335What does this mean for flurry heart?
>>43093381Flurry Heart is the equivalent of a human kid being born with Henry Cavil's face
>>43093386Doesn't that mean that Applejack was the same way?
>>43093388Applejack doesn't have wings
>>43093420So having a weird adult face only applies if you also have big wings?
>>43093426t. winglet
>>43093441The term is chicken nugget thank you
>>43093381We already knew Flurry is the sexiest being in all of mlp.
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>>43092359I like Fae's stories becuase they are sweeet and heartfelt and give me the warm fuzzies :)Also I saw a meme today that made me feel super guilty not working this weekend :(
>>43093481He wants her for himself.
>>43093528I can relate to Ego and Mental but only some parts of the Emotional. I guess Emotional is more relevant for women.
>>43093528These three demons are easy to kill.
>>43093622Redpill me.
>>43093625It's never going to be perfect, just write what the fuck ever even if it's just the one sentence in your head, and do it on your phone if you have to.Best advice I ever had was to ride the high you get when you want to do something, just drop your other dumb shit and do it. Been cooking and cleaning and exercising a lot more since then.
>method to his madnessI remember somehow in discussion being told that it was worse than the first two books.Honestly maybe, but I think the main thing is that it's a dramatically different setting, and hence dramatically different scope. DoWaS and FS start off focused on a minuscule part of the setting, two small ponies who are nobodies within a wide, vast, and seemingly nearly uniform world of dogs and machines; and follows how from those two little ponies armageddon exponentially escalates and culminates in the end of the world. The story starts with calm slice of life in a tiny village and ends up covering the entire world, no corner left untouched.Madness is totally different in scope, since it's about a single cataclysmic event within Equestria's history; it starts off discussing world-ending monsters, the story runs through the sturggle against the world-ending monster, and said monster is defeated. Equestria endures all the while, there are many nations scattered all around who are barely involved and many who are barely even mentioned. The most exciting military conflict we see is of a couple capital carries with a few dozen escorts each, plus some handful of missiles and nukes being flung around.So for this reason, honestly I am glad that I waited to read Method for quite a while after finishing FS, because it's not a fitting sequel tone-wise. Jumping straight from 650k words culminating in the end of the world, into the distant future of flourishing Equestria and its petty local Discord problems, would be a pretty jarring tone shift.But as far as the story itself goes, standing on its own, I think it's fantastic. It's not the same scope or scale, but it's still suitably world-threatening. The sci-fi aspect was pretty engaging, especially the descriptions of how Equestrian and Griffonian tech evolved independently, both of them having clear differences between each other as well as with the Hive tech from the first books.And, difference in scope and setting notwithstanding, I think it's a worthy sequel. I really think it did justice to Celestia and Luna, and Equestria and the ponies, and where they are now thousands of years after earning freedom. DoWaS is one of my favourite stories on the site, and I thoroughly enjoyed all the callbacks to it; Luna and Celestia really do feel like the same characters, both suitably changed by the vast amount of time and yet still the same ponies.And the ending is absolutely a worthy conclusion to the entire epic trilogy, which is not an easy feat to pull off when you've got so much to live up to. I'm glad I finally read it; I really think the conclusion to Method is a better finale than the ending of FS is. For how many sequels on the site are often recommended tentatively or with disclaimers, I firmly think Method is worth reading, maybe not right after finishing FS, but certainly at some point, to conclude the story of the world.
>>43093634Although, the one piece of criticism I'd have is the strange treatment of the Elements and their power. In FS, the alicorns become near godlike when using even one of them, and when all six are available it's supposed to provide literally unlimited power. They also use them handily in the middle of firefights with nuclear hypersonics or defending against relativistic kinetic strikes, there's no "concentration" issue. But Celestia was apparently unable to get a grip on the Elements just due to having to focus on fighting Luna, and purging Discord seemed to take a surprising amount of time and effort, and also Luna with her three elements was apparently outlasted and beaten into submission by Discord. Maybe I'm misremembering the ending of FS, but it feels like the Elements were somewhat nerfed in Method. Understandable from a narrative perspective because "Celestia and Luna gathered the six god stones and became omnipotent and solved everything with the power of their will" would've been a lacluster resolution, but still.
>>43092490I know, that's why I said I was the only idiot to believe that the attitude all the other ponies had towards DB was justified and we just didn't see the worst of her on page. Everyone else from the club points out that she just burns that one criminal and that's all she really does, even the war she threatens never materializes.>>43092714Maybe not ruler but she was such an effective statesmare that she built a system robust enough to work with an absolute leader and then seamlessly transition into a republic or whatever the council is working out. No roles needed to be changed or revised, just a little name swap and voila. The problems that arise are written as more of an incompetence from the council itself than anything DB's empire left in place.>>43092833No, but I do really want to write something based on the AU you set up. Your work greatly inspired me and I don't mean this facetiously, it's invaded my mind. When and if I have something concrete maybe I'll shoot you a DM; whatever your answer may be I hope it's not too influenced by my 4 am percolations.
>>43093634I like FS but it definitely didn't go in the direction I thought it would. Part of me kind of wishes there was a longer war between the alicorns and the dogs and more time spent on them building up the nascent nation, but it's like once the sisters get a way to subvert the hammer it goes apocalyptic.
>>43093634>>43093706Would you kindly avoid involving my wife's initials in your acronymtism?
>>43093706I can definitely see what you mean, but I think it fits. I'm sure the dogs also wished for a longer, more drawn-out war where some of the Hives could actually survive and they could hash out a new and improved world order without their species being nearly wiped out of existence. But that's kind of the point of the books - that their entire civilisation was on a knife's edge, and as soon as it destabilised, it just plunged straight into complete armageddon. The fact that it's all Discord's fault is kind of an afterthought in the first books - I mean, his involvement is obvious, but at least personally at the time I just kind of took him as a plot device; now that I think about it, Madness also being about Discord is extremely fitting. In the end, the entire world is basically Discord's prison and all three books are really just about his various attempts to escape, and the collateral effects of these attempts. It just so happens that in the first two books said collateral effect involves the total end of the Dog civilisation setting things up for the dawn of the pony civilisation.>once the sisters get a way to subvert the hammerMore like once Baur (mis)fires their superweapon. Up till then one could argue it was still a regional war. Not only that but the ponies had actually more or less allied with Orgon at that point, and if not for Baur's little fucky wucky one can honestly imagine a universe where the ponies and Lacunae working together defeat Baur, establish independence from the Court, and proceed to live together, pony and dog both.>>43093715You're gonna have to take up this one with old man Adolf first
>>43093686>The problems that arise are written as more of an incompetence from the council itself than anything DB's empire left in placeI don't remember it too well but wasn't it specifically a mix of countries she had antagonized wanting revenge/reparations and loyalist cities wanting to secede?
Are there any fics about bat ponies being genuinely Luna loyalists through thick and through thin and Luna/NMM caring about them in return?I keep seeing shit that's almost like this but it always ends up just wrong in some way or another.>MonstersAlmost had this except NMM is a spirit of objectively pure evil with no redeeming consequences and all her batponies gave up their piece of moon soul and rejected her the moment Celestia offered redemption after the atrocities their patron forced them to commit>A Method to his MadnessSatisfies this on paper but in practice this never really comes into play in the story, a single loyal guard character happens to be of high integrity and very loyal and also happens to be a batpony with leather wings and ultrasonic screeching, and otherwise this is entirely irrelevant to the story>In the Company of NightThis would've been it but the batponies died out 300 years ago and in the end the cultists that took up the mantle don't really end up even serving Luna as such anymore and also explicitly reject the memory of the old batpony loyalists>TMANMM is cool and the moon city is cool but the batponies are functionally irrelevantThe closest thing I know of is Journey with a Batpony, which was actually really close to what I wanted. Unfortunately it's extremely autistic, 1.3M words long and still incomplete (and still being actively written). I read about 400k words of it a few years ago and while it was great, I'm also a bit apprehensive as to what the fuck could have happened in the next 900k words, because the story at the time did not look like it was poised to meaningfully continue for triple the length.
>>43093777In Journey with a batpony Twilight gets pregnant so presumably that takes up a fair bit.
>>43093634>And the ending is absolutely a worthy conclusion to the entire epic trilogyI completely forget what the ending to method was kek
>>43090663>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/169016/if-you-came-to-conquerI really liked this, shame the sequels are all kind of middling to me, from what I remember of them.
>>43093972#2 was middling but I think #3 is good.
>>43093814After a few decades of Luna living in hermitage alongside a disguised Celestia, they attend the next scheduled Discord breakout-and-reimprisonment which is successfully handled by the new artificial Elements, thus confirming he's basically secure forever and powerless to escape from this point on.They ponder what they should do next, now that everything is calm and good and Equestria is flourishing without the need for immortal princesses or even the Elements themselves, and Celestia suggests working on a way to journey outside of their pocket universe, but without killing everyone inside unlike Discord's methods.I like it because it gives a nice rounded ending to the entire story of the universe. We follow the journey from the Pattern being born, to the Pattern creating the brane for safety, through everything happening inside, Chaos working for millenia to try to exit, the giant end-of-the-world where the Pattern is destroyed and Chaos nearly escapes; but the world is saved, and Chaos incorporates as Discord. All the events from all three books are basically caused by Chaos/Discord trying to leave the pocket universe. And in a way, the cosmology is pretty claustrophobic, with millenia upon millenia and multiple civilisations growing on basically a single planet, a single singularity providing light and warmth, some quantity of rocks in orbit, and that's basically it.And then finally the story, from the birth of the universe through the cosmic throes of the eternal villain trying to escape it, the death of the original progenitor of the universe, and all the civilisation of tiny mortals living in it, the multi-book arc ends on a note that the ponies will find a way outside and expand beyond this tiny pocket universe after all.Who knows, maybe even Discord will one day finally be freed into the inter-universal space, the outer chaos, and may get to live as a mini-pattern in the quantum foam again.
>>43093715For Fuck's Sake, Free Speech means Fellow Shitposters can Falsely Steer anons into Fictive Semantics.
>>43094268>free speech means you can lie in a public setting and not be held liable for it!This is why people argue against it.
>>43094304>free speech bad because I'm a gullible retardThis is why people argue against democracy and the notion of "human rights"
>>43090409I only finished Ch 5 in time for the club, but I caught up last night, so I'm writing a late post.Some things to echo: [Comedy] didn't ruin the fic because I agree with the author's initial decision to publish it without. The castle bakery was kinda nice, but overstayed its welcome. Luna's tower was definitely the best chapter of the fic so far.I don't agree that it warrants [SoL]. I think that in general, it's of poor compatibility with [Mystery]. The fic meanders, yes, but almost all of it advances the [Mystery] progression.The bakers are good, but they're OCs. Derpy isn't connected to canon at all. I don't like the idea of Celestia having a continuous stream of students, it takes away from Twilight's connection to Celestia and seems to make Celestia's character overly tragic without adding anything to the story. Obviously, this thread isn't done yet, but I don't expect it to be worthwhile. Twilight's S1 characterization is fan-fuckin'tastic. A+ balancing practical and neurotic bookhorse purpling.>>43090740>>43090836With the complaints about the trunk, I paid more attention to what the story said, and it says that only the base of the trunk and two of its wheels are left behind. The part that flew into the tower is all four sides and the top, because of how much localization the author describes Twilight's telekinesis with. She was lifting the trunk by every part of the trunk except its base.I also didn't find Twilight's breakdown to be egregious. It didn't seem like the Canterlot ponies were any more coldhearted than they normally are, and she got help quite fast.I also really like how much the story is getting out of Sable Sleuth. And the Power Ponies, as annoying as Spike continues to be. I'm not going to give him any credit for contributing to the [Mystery], this is the usual obnoxious "Twilight has to share an IQ pool with Spike to make him relevant" strategy that stories with him invariably do. Twilight was doing great during the fakeout dragon disposal early on.
>>43094334"This is why we can't do trials by jury! I don't want to be judged by my peers because my peers are intellectually feeble!"
>>43094474https://twitch.tv/northernlion/clip/StylishSparklingFloofDancingBaby-DW3R3Wi9JZIRm-kO
>>43094027Ah yes, the cosmic bubble plotline, of course.>>43094473>I don't like the idea of Celestia having a continuous stream of students, it takes away from Twilight's connection to CelestiaOh yeah, I agree with this. I forgot about that part and nobody mentioned itIt really does introduce the idea that Twilight isn't special if she just filled in a new vacancy
>>43094508Isn't that Sunset's backstory though?
>>43094511>Was there a student before Sunset?
>>43094511I assume her apprentices are once-a-generation prodigies, not the teacher's pets.
>have written 532 words tonightHell yeah.
>>43093651The Elements were nerfed, yes, in order for the plot to happen, but it's not a plot hole. Another difference between the canon ones and those in A Soot-Covered World is that they're not wish-granters. You have to conceptually grasp what you want, and the memetic virus makes ponies stupid, curtailing their ability to use the Stones. Luna speculates on this directly in her fight. The fic has much worse plot holes, but if you didn't notice them, you didn't notice them.Although you didn't list out the reasons, you did recognize that Method is worse than DoWaS/FS, while also recognizing that it's still good in general.
>>43094573How many of them were good?
>>430945992: "cum inside"
>>43094573>have written 18 words tonightYour days are numbered, kid
>>43094573I hit 52 just before midnight.
>>43094573>2 gorillion words in greentext>0 (zero) in prosepsssh... nothing personnel... kid..
>>43092326>what happened in the years inbetween lunas banishment and returnThe "thousand year gap" has almost no canon references (I think the only canon events that take place in it are Ponyville's founding and Griffonstone becoming a shithole). You can fill it with just about whatever you want.>european history bookEurope and Equestria are completely different beasts. Equestria is a single geopoltiical entity that effectively has total control of a whole continent. At best, you could argue some manifest destiny stuff might have happened with the buffalo or changelings or something, but from looking at a map, the ponies picked a perfect place to plop their posteriors down.>>43092359>WHY DID I BUY INTO THE AUTHOR'S SETUP OF DB AS A VILLAIN TO BE REDEEMED>So DB gets what she deserves (no punishment plus an easy life plus a new daughter)I'm confused. You buy into the premise of her being redeemed, and then are mad that she gets redeemed?>>43093528>"I'm taking this 300 word scene and turning it into a 12k subplot"Which one does this fit under? Because I'm currently doing it.>>43093777Her Soldiers, We I believe qualifies.>>43094573>tfw you were averaging more than 1k a day for a week, then got sick for the third time this yearI'm still averaging north of the 500 minimum at least.
>>43093777Prey and a Lamb has clans of Bat ponies come out of a self-imposed exile after Luna explicitly asks them to.It focuses pretty heavily on them in-fact given that two of the three main characters are bat ponies.
It was 545 just before the day ended.>>43094599All of them. ^:)>>43094607>>43094622>>43094659Good job, guys. What are you writing? I'm working on yet another commission, this one a cute little chapter.>>43094676>I'm still averaging north of the 500 minimum at least.I'll be happy so long as I can breach one hundred thousand words written in one year.
>>43094508>the cosmic bubble plotline>plotlineIt's literally the entire premise of dowas
>>43094939>All of themYou need a prereader to remove your head from your behind.>I'll be happy so long as I can breach one hundred thousand words written in one year.No, to "breach" is either to transgress or to make a hole in. The word you want is "defecate."
>>43095278>You NEED to get a second opinion on your writing bro>You NEED to listen to other people's thoughts on your writing bro>You NEED to make sure your work caters to the average retard bro>Why?>Because...because you just NEED to!!!
>>43095278From the sense of "make a hole" comes the expression "breaching [some limit]" i.e. exceeding the threshold or limit.
>>43095278>You need a prereader to remove your head from your behind.In this case, that's the guy paying for the story. Regardless, I need no proofreader beyond myself, but I proofread for others occasionally.>No, to "breach" is either to transgress or to make a hole in. The word you want is "defecate."I'd be breaching a limit or goal.
>>43095306>I need no proofreader beyond myselfEasily disproven by reading your stories.
Is this good advice?
>>43095344kek
>>43095350>taking writing advice from tumblr>taking writing adviceNGMI
>>43095018The premise is actually looking at all the pre-cut gems that anypony can find in the ground at any time and asking "what if those are the ashes of a gem-tech-based civilization that Equestria is built on?" followed by the Terminator 2 snares.
>>43095369>The premise is actually looking at all the pre-cut gems that anypony can find in the ground at any time and askingThat's not what a premise is
>>43095288However good you are, there are going to be things that don't register with you, be it an overlong scene or characters you think are amusing that come across as dicks. Getting another perspective can help you sharpen your story into an immortal jewel of perfection.>>43093715>wifeGet a load of this guy!
>>43095371Inspiration, whatever. The cosmic bubble plotline is background lore, not the premise, either.
>>43095376Everything I do is already perfect
>>43095376Get in line.
I am reminded of how the dogs in DoWaS use "expert systems" and I am amused.
>>43094676I bought into the premise of her needing to find redemption. I don't think her apologizing to ONE singular subject redeems her for everything she's done in a thousand years.Either I read the story wrong and DB was no villain at all ever and everyone who hated her is a retard faggot that can't handle a bit of tough love so she doesn't need to make up for anything at allOr she has done worse shit off-page than burning a guy who deserved it but it doesn't matter because she's retired now and won't accept any responsibilityHope this clears your confusion
>>43095878I don't know if I'd call being overthrown a form of retirement.
>>43094474Brit here. Ouch.
>>43095923What do brits have to do with Canada?
>>43095909I'm reminded of marr who lived on the moon since that also had evil imperialist Celestia or the one where Twilight goes to the timeline where nightmare Moon took over.In both cases it's sort of like what exactly would you expect them to be doing once they're overthrown? You can't exactly have them have power again. And just executing them is at odds thematically with ponies.
I didn't listen and read something I was warned against and now I'm regretting it.
>>43096209Good.That will show you.Which is it?
>>43095909>“Maybe we’re both monsters but… But I don’t want to be a monster anymore. I don’t want to be an Empress, or a warlord, or a god. I just… I just want to be a mother. I want to be a better mother. To Twilight, to you.”Call it what you want but she's having her cake and eating it too. As soon as she realizes what she wants she gets it. Custody over Twilight, a quiet life, the freedom to choose her future. It's quite frustrating to read.>>43095974Have her banished, have Shining Armor stand his ground and take Twilight away, have her be on the run, have the residents of Ponyville give her the stink eye, have her actually want to keep ruling but be unable to. Fuck it, have her stand trial and when everyone realizes she's good now they give her a super petty punishment like forced labor in a desk job as part of the bureaucracy she built herself. Have her "confined" to Ponyville in basically the same situation as she is right now but codified as a punishment. Make her write an apology letter. Something, anything, no matter how minuscule that doesn't perfectly align with what she wants right now and let's you go "well that's what you get after terrorizing Equestria for a thousand years"
>>43096278I think the problem is you're seeing redemption as a punishment and not redemption being someone striving to be better as an individual.
>>43096270>Which is it?Homestuck.
>>43096441Could be worse. I read the HPMOR sequels.
>>43096392The term you're looking for is "forgiveness". It's basically the Hound in ASOIAF joining the church and walking away, and similarly it's probably hard to enforce any sort of punishment on an all-powerful alicorn.>>43096448Did you join the cult though?
>>43096448I saw recently that Yudkowsky wrote another work of fiction. It's a 1.8 million word isekai where a guy from a perfect rationalist utopia gets transported to a medieval fantasy world that's ruled by demons. Also it's apparently about BDSM and AI too. There's a glowing review of it here:https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/zRHGQ9f6deKbxJSji/review-planecrash
>>43096497It sounds like he'd be right at home with our inbred HiE cousins. As everyone knows though, the only good isekai is the John Brown isekai.
>>43096497I want to cave this guys skull in with a pickaxe.
>>43096507Which one
>>43096509Yudkowsky. Also I cannot think of a single person that knows about these retards from any sort of group that doesn’t shit on them relentlessly. The only exception are redditards.
>>43096501>Muh abolishment of slavery is le heckin wholesome chungus
>>43096501And Alice
>>43096529Yes.
>>43096536Alice is not an isekai because she isn't reincarnated.
>>43096542Does John Brown get reincarnated?
>>43096547Yes, as John Brown.
Any pony fics about how might makes right?
>>43096522Unfortunately I work with a guy who takes all the intelligence explosion / AGI / AI doom stuff pretty seriously>>43096507Yudkowsky's policy on twitter is that posts ending with a period are serious and posts without a period are him trolling/shitposting. It's a great policy—makes it so easy to get screenshots/archives that make him look like a complete jackass and/or moron.
>>43096574Didn't he start a cult
>>43096578Kinda. And a few of his followers have started things that are definitely cults (e.g. Leverage Research)
Cults are good, actually.
any good straight romance fics? (that don't have humans obviously).
>>43096625Traveling Tutor & The Librarian
>>43096625Imagine hating your own kind this much lol
>>43096726i don't hate humans, i just don't want to read about them in pony fiction.
>>43096779That's a troll post made by someone who is jealous that you have better standards than them.
>>43096392Where is Celestia/DB striving to be better? One of her last actions is her admitting that in a just world she'd be put on trial and have Twilight taken away from her only for her to then appeal to Shining's emotions by asking "what would the 5 year old want?" and bribing him with a house so she can keep indulging in her selfish fantasies in peace. Where's the redemption in there? Is it in the part where she doesn't instantly burn him to ashes?Ok fine you don't want punishment, this is a wholesome fic after all, let's have Celestia/DB do good out of her own volition. Let's see here, we have... her asking Mango for advice, her heeding the nurse's advice... and that's it. We could say that choosing the better path takes time, but that still leaves weeks if not months of "reformed" Celestia/DB not de-escalating the Abyssinian crisis, continuing to offload every single administrative matter onto Parvas (and she has the gall of asking her to take breaks/get hobbies) and not taking any interest in improving the lives of her own subjects, seeing as all throughout the story she treats council meetings as chores she has to slog through before she can go play with Twilight>>43096459From the little I know of GoT, I'm pretty sure he gets left to die by Arya who ignores his pleas of mercy and is theorized to eventually get brought back into action to take down his zombie brother as he does in the series. I don't see the similarities
>>43096810>Where is Celestia/DB striving to be better?Through her interactions with Twilight. It's a twiadopt story.
>>43096903You could address the rest of my post instead of attempting to diminish the story's value by handwaving shit with "its twiadopt lole turn ur brain off bro"
>>43096932But that's the point though. Like the crux of the story is Twilight paralleling Luna, and Celestia failing and accidentally killing Luna was the entire thing that drove her to become Daybreaker.
>>43096957Ok so we ignore everything else, that's what you're saying
>>43096981More that you're looking at it as a rebellion against Daybreaker fic, when it's about Daybreaker adopting an autistic baby that reawakens her humanity fic. So the focus is going to be on her and Twilight and that being developed. If any redeeming happens it's going to be via the autistic baby.
>>43097003Reading the sappy parenting story and not expecting sappy parenting to win out is like reading a Mono story and not expecting irrational lesbian behavior.
>>43097003>>43097045Well, there's your answer then. I read it all wrong apparently.
>>43097101I mean like 99% of the story up until she's overthrown is just>Twilight does cute thing and Daybreaker likes the cute thingShe was obviously going to end up turning back into Celestia and get to keep Twilight. You yourself said you somehow expected it to end differently and I dunno, that seems on you. I wouldn't even call it ballsy if the ending was her being locked up forever while Shining Armor gets custody of her, it just seems entirely at odds with how the rest of the fic is set up. But then I've seen other fics pivot way harder so maybe that's not on you.
>>43097129Fics that do a 180 at the very last second into a completely different genre or theme?Fics that actually pull it off well?
>>43097133The Archety-->spoilerOh.The Archetypist, if you can get into that mindset.
>>43097129So Celestia not wanting to have any sort of power by the end wasn't necessarily supposed to be a good thing, even if she had made peace with herself and accepted Luna's death and her failures leading up to that. Shining Armor's not supposed to be in the wrong in the final chapter, in the same way that Celestia's not wrong either.
>>43097003You know what this reminds me of, Discord when he made The Ending of the End happen and at the end he faces nothing and actually tells Celestia to turn all villains to stone because he thinks it's funny and they all treat this as a good thing. Boy did I watch that one wrong too>>43097129The ending could have been the exact same though, as I said before if the redemption was sold through her ruling becoming kinder (maybe she could've drawn a parallel of Equestria being her other son or something) I would've been fine with it. Just a line in the middle stating she made a deal with the cats.
Anyone who dislikes my work simply read it wrong.
>>43097215>as I said before if the redemption was sold through her ruling becoming kinder (maybe she could've drawn a parallel of Equestria being her other son or something)Why does everyone so desperately want the authoritarian fire mommy
>>43097220If you go into a fae fic expecting anything but light slop that focuses on adoption that's your own faultIt's like McDonald's.
>>43097220I see that you, too, have gotten a Starlight Nova comment.
Just finished act 2 of compati, still going very strong
>>43097221You're on /mlp/.
>>43097226That's no excuse. DoWaS is one of the most recommended fics and also a big time overpowered alicorn centered one and that it's entirely about overthrowing the regime that's oppressing the slave caste.
>>43097223I wish I could get one of those. It feels like a badge of honor.
>>43096507t. Ziz>>43096563https://www.fimfiction.net/story/341625/around-the-world-in-81-days-and-other-problems-caused-by-leap-yearsIf the thread's reviews are anything to go by.>>43097133https://www.fimfiction.net/story/30426/tough-love-luna-vs-celestia>spoilerNever mind.
>>43097215Discord adopts an autistic filly that reawakens his humanity in season 9?Fuck maybe I should watch it now.
>>43097236He gets custody of the hyper autistic midnight sparkle clone that Applejack kept molesting.
All redemption shit is garbage
>>43097238Based Mormon.
>>43097238But you're watching a show whose very first episode redeems its villain with a gay laser.
>>43097243FiM really went downhill in episode 2.
>>43097246FiM went downhill the moment they gave Spike speaking lines.
>>43097233>T. ZizAre you referring to that one shitty Reddit tier “philosopher”?
>>43097133How to Disappear Completely doesn't exactly do a 180 but its ending is so stupidly at odds with the lessons I thought it was trying to show that it was fucking infuriating.
>>43097255>Disappear CompletelyMe soon
>>43097252Nah, he's talking about the sick cunt who always used to remind us that we're all gonna make it, brah
>>43097256Well if Sunset Shimmer stops you and tells you you're retarded remember to listen to her.
>author disappears for half a year>returns out of nowhere with a rape chapter
>>43097264I thought you were talking about the Sly Cooper one for a moment.
>>43097264So he took half a year to accomplish a rape to use as inspiration?
>>43097268>half a year for one rapeInefficient, Ponyville's officially appointed rapist would have managed at least 30 rapes in that time.
>>43097270>1.25 rapes a weekI can see why there'd need to be an official one, no way you have a day job with that sort of output.
>>43097274It is his day job, you know. He's got a pension even, I hear.
Luna's first controversy as co-regent was wanting to axe the royal rape fund. After all, without it how are ponies across Equestria supposed to get officially appointed rapists?Luna's secondary controversy as co-regent was suggesting that they could just not rape ponies. Such an antiquated notion.
>>43097264>author never finished his fic because he was a collage grindcel and then became a wageslave>authors demonstrably mentally unwell through his blog posts and how he wrote his basically self insert character>author hasn’t been online in almost two years.
>>43097286>author comes back>he's married with kids now and doesn't want to write anymore
>>43097255I genuinely thought it was a long-con trollfic of legendary proportions at first because it was just so blatantly against everything the protagonist had learned, but then it failed to turn it into a funny punchline and felt worryingly sincere.>>43097225Glad you're enjoying it!>>43097264Link. Now.
>>43097290It's a skirts fic.
>>43097285I'd read a fic with an out of touch Luna where she's the logical one and everypony is out of their god damned minds.
>>43097300>Progress but it's reversed
>>43096522That's because you're the US sphere that was partially built on puritannical religion. Lots of Easteen European STEM nerds who grew up in the atheistic USSR or its legacy consider HPMoR superior to the original and maybe wouldn't agree with everything Yudkowsky says but probably some of it, especially like 10 years ago when he was less of a weirdo. You'd be surprised how many preconceived notions you take for granted are simply not a factor in a different culture. Like here "rationalfic" is used derogatorily and people have some kinda us vs them mentality about it, but from a Russian fic reader you'd be more likely to hear "yes, everyone should try to be rational, I'm tired of media where the retarded protagonist wins not because he's smarter and more cunning but for feelgood bullshit reasons".
>>43096497Didn't Mark Twain do a better version of that?
>>43097312>consider HPMoR superior to the originalI probably do. HPMOR has glaring flaws, but they bother me a heck of a lot less than the original's flaws.The sequels like Significant Digits, Ginny Weasley and the Sealed Intelligence, and Draco Malfoy and the Practice of Rationality can largely fuck right off.
>>43097312There are a litany of things wrong with your post but I’m not going to explain exactly what because I don’t care enough to do it and it’s not as through you would actually change your mind over what I said anyways.
do you ever upvote/downvote fics you haven't read?
>>43097508No.
>>43096542Isekai means another world, reincarnation has nothing to do with it and that's easily observed by how the father of the modern isekai boom is SAO.
>>43096984Yes, Anon. Fae is retarded.
>>43097133You know the answer anon
>>43097133>spoilersNone that I can think of.
>>43097508I downvote zebradom fics on principle
>>43097508I upvote fics by thread authorsI downvote fics by thread authors who pump and dumped me
>>43097508Yeah. An easy, instant downvote for me is seeing a foot fetish fic just because they always have the most fucking horrendous cover art, for example.
All work and no play makes anon a dull manAll work and no play makes anon a dull manAll work and no play makes anon a dull manWHY THE FUCK DID I HAD TO PICK A DETECTIVE NOVELLA?OH JUST WRITE AN ADVENTURE DETECTIVE NOVELLA IT'S FOR KIDS, IT WILL BE EASYHAH HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHOW THE FUCK DO I MAKE IT MAKE SENSE?MY VILLAINS HAVE NO MOTIVATIONTHESE RIDDLES ARE HARDER THAN BATMAN'S ASS CHEEKSHOW THE FUCK DO I WRITE A DETECTIVE NOVEL THAT MAKES SENSE?
>>43097840Become a hardened criminal and write it out in prison after you get caught.
>>43097840Play Shadows of Doubt and base it off that.
Fics that end suddenly and unexpectedly and cause a meltdown?
>>43097889That old Harry Potter spy fic my mom made me read where it didn't update for years and then the author posted a chapter that was just a summary of what would have happened.
>>43097897Did you tell your caseworker about that?
>>43097898No, I wanted to spare her the pain because I'm nice like that.
>>43097889Wasn't Solitary Locust like that?
>>43097889You're from /a/ aren't you.
>>43097681What if it's girl zebras being dommed by male ponies
>>43097956Wouldn't that be zebrasub?
>>43097959you can't just be throwing terms around hoping they mean something, buddy
>>43097913>incomplete
>>43097976Yeah, there was an ending. Everyone hated it, so the author removed the last chapter, changed some things in the previous chapter, and just left it at that.
>>43097956Well see BBC is bad but WMBF is based.
>>43097255God that one was so stupidly infuriating I have no idea what they were thinking. Even Chrysalis' incest baby fic was less infuriating.
Read the comments. Trust me.https://www.fimfiction.net/story/429190/28/the-longest-day/epilogue-failure
>>43098176There's a whole 5 of them. You could have posted a screencap.
>>43098211And deny anon his views?
>>43097508Sometimes I downvote if I can tell it's a fixfic that's poorly disguised rant by the author. Like I think the guy who made that one FFVI MLP mod wrote a fanfic about Lightning Dust that I could immediately tell was just crying about her being the bad guy in the Washouts episode and fixing it so that she was actually perfect and right about everything ever, and he kept writing walls of text arguing about it in his own comments lol.
>>43097889>>43097897Holy shit, you just made me remember a HP fic I read ages ago about a girl Harry. It was very depressing, what with the Dursleys giving her up for adoption right away, and then her getting kicked from homes to homes until she ends up in a horrible orphanage where she's stuck in the basement to contain the surges of accidental magic.Yadda yadda, the rest of the story happens, the plot is covered until Book 3. Happiness all around.Then BOOM. Last chapter is a couple hundred words about how girl Harry just left the UK, disappointing everyone and not being seen again, and the author's note just said "Sorry".Quite the whiplash.
>>43098316"Real" literature will never be able to have this level of burnout SOVLIf fanfiction was more popular this would warrant a faggy video essay about how abrupt endings like this give you an authentic feeling of extremely realistic disappointment no other media format can quite achieve
>>43098319>"Real" literature will never be able to have this level of burnout SOVLOh please, fanfic can never compete with the likes of Patrick Rothfuss
>>43098316>Last chapter is a couple hundred words about how girl Harry just left the UK, disappointing everyone and not being seen again,Honestly, this would have made sense for actual Harry. The third book makes it clear that Harry can just leave.
>>43098319This reply chain started literally because of something similar happening to a properly published original work though.
>>43098612What was it?
>>43098624CSM
What’s the over/under on SubscribeStar killing Fimfiction for good?
>>43098694Last two digits of my post are the percent chance.
Any human swapping bodies with a pony fanfics that are good?
>>43098698No, but you will probably enjoy this one https://www.fimfiction.net/story/34702/why-am-i-pinkie-pie
>>43098694Why would a site where you have to pay money kill a free website?
>>43098713Love that fic
>>43098714Payment processors are trying to regulate morality. SubscribeStar has recently been canceling the accounts of people who create content that payment processors don’t like. This could be the end for them, too, because the only reason anyone uses SubscribeStar instead of Patreon is because Patreon forbids certain content.>>43098697Guess that’s the end.
>>43098713I read that one a few years ago. I thought it was good and people here shit on my opinion :(
>>43098762Good.
>>43098698SI
>>43098859Can i see then?
>>43098860No I meant S(hining's) I(sekai).
Fics where Shining has a big dick and fucks his wife who loves him?
>>43097929nta but fuck you for reminding meif there's no part 3 i'm legitimately giving up on japan as a whole
>>43098986Cadance In A Minor
>>43099004I don't know why you're seething.Fujimbo will finally be free of CSM and he can do something else.
>>43099004Do you want Part 3 after what Part 2 was like?
Well I finished Compati. Really liked it. Even though some of the subjects are definitely not to my taste they seem to be executed well.But holy fuck epilogue 1 was brutal and pushed to the forefront thoughts I had had since like halfway through the fic. That being that as the fic progresses Sunset comes to terms with Luna, but outside of the dream world everyone's opinion of Luna massively degrades. This would be soul crushing when they had already seemed to have forgiven her just to back out of it 7 years later. Luna is immediately thrust back to where she was 7 years ago except maybe worse off because it was 7 years of being baited by everyone she was close to. Even Sunset decided that Luna couldn't be forgiven lol. Celestia herself literally turns her back on Luna in their final scene. That's brutal. I'd almost consider it a betrayal, and of course Luna sits there and simply tells her sister she isn't worthy of her presence. So here at the end of the fic Luna is at what might be the lowest point of any pony in the fic, and after what the fic has been through that hardly seems just. That said I do appreciate all of the other happy endings, especially Coppertone and Stone Wall. Everypony even gets their own cute mare to ask them out. Except for Luna of course.
Fics where an alicorn does something charitable or santa claus like for a poor family?
>>43099189Thanks for reminding me I should go back to that story where Luna does a Make-A-Wish style program where she makes dreams for sick ponies.
>just finished a late Hearts & Hooves Day chapter for my commissioned anthologyI'll post it here once it's published. I know some of you may be interested in it, albeit for the wrong reasons.
>>43099669Her cutie mark in this picture is reminding me of Pac Man.
>>43099161i just finished it too, reading the last two non-epilogue chapters and both epilogue chapters in a single sitting, and honestly,i really didn't like the ending with sunset conciously deciding not to forgive luna. it's supposed to come off as triumphant, but it just feels tragic to me. holding a grudge is the exact opposite of healing from trauma, and holding a grudge is all that choosing not to forgive someone is. that scene is effectively the real start of sunset's journey towards recovery, and her very first step is away from recovery, and i'm supposed to be happy about this. i don't even think you'd have to change that much to fix it. "i want to forgive luna, but i can't. maybe in the future i will be able to, but also maybe not. only time will tell" as opposed to "i'm never forgiving luna ever and here's why that's a good thing actually". sunset holding a grudge against luna is obviously extremely understandable, but that's very different from it flat out being a good thing like the fic says it is.i also wasn't the hugest fan of how copper's family was handled in the second epilogue, with three of them having their stories resolved off-screen in a passing mention, and the other two being left as an open question, but i think i mostly feel that way because the family drama was my favorite part of the fic, and i wanted to see more of it. what we got here is honestly still fine though. definitely the best of the last four chapters. i kind of want to write a family drama fic with a very similar dynamic now.the epilogue with luna... up until that point i thought that this fic had one of the best written celestia's i've seen, but she feels horribly out of character here, or maybe that's just me. tell me if i'm wrong, but i really don't think that celestia would be anything but immediately forgiving towards luna if she found out about pretty much anything luna did as nightmare moon, especially since the fic already made it clear that celestia largely considers nightmare moon to be her own fault. the whole chapter just feels cruel. like it doesn't want you to feel sympathetic towards luna after sunset didn't forgive her even though.i've got a lot of other problems with the ending, mostly various scenes i think should have happened but didn't, (why was there no celestia and sunset scene during the falling action?) and the ending as a whole kind of just left a bad taste in my mouth even though i really liked most of the fic. i honestly don't know what to think about the fic as a whole after it.last thing i have to say is, what on earth was the point of doppler's existence in the fic? so much of the first few chapters are centered around him but you could remove him from the fic completely, and you'd barely have to change anything. all his presence really accomplished in the fic was tricking me into thinking the romance tag was there for superior heterosexual romance when actually it's a fic about 50 different lesbians.
After seeing some fetish art I really liked I feel rather inspired. I was thinking about writing something in some form but it has been years since I last did any creative writing. Am I fine posting here or is there a thread better suited for this?
>>43099840You're always better off making a thread for the specific story you want to tell, if there's no general where it fits.This is mostly to talk about stories over at FiMFiction.
>>43099879Alrighty. Thank you, I appreciate it.
>>43099840if you're thinking of writing a green, make a thread for it. if you'd rather write regular prose you could ask for proofreading here but don't expect much feedback, it's porn after all
>>43099820>all his presence really accomplished in the fic was tricking me into thinking the romance tag was there for superior heterosexual romance when actually it's a fic about 50 different lesbians.that's based tho, but I agree with the first part of what you said and that's kind of what I meant when I said some subjects are not to my tasteThe entire fic is about a rape and I've never raped anyone or been raped nor do I know anyone who has done either. But I do not consider rape to be the worst thing in the world and the fic does and a lot of 'problems' I might have with the fic stem from that. And the other subject is openly homophobic ponies, which never fit into Equestria, but the drama was good enough to look past it here. But the fic really does single out that without this one nightmare dream rape, Nightmare Moon's entire rebellion would've been significantly less bad. It really doesn't help that we don't hear anything else about it, but I think I can assume that some ponies died considering this is a darker AU and thus my stance stands. The dream rape not only wasn't the worst thing NMM did, but it wasn't even that bad. Of course Sunset can be mad about it, but Luna has been a paragon of good for 7 years straight and everyone thinks they get to reset that and be suspicious of her again once they find out she dream raped someone and that's fucking crazy to me. And yeah I com0pletely agree with you that Sunset finally accepting that yeah she doesn't ever have to forgive Luna and then absorbing her tantabus is kinda garbo, especially so when Luna essentially just went through all this because she is a good pony and the only result of her labor is that a lot more ponies hate her/ distrust her. And I agree that Celestia is brutally OOC in the epilogue. Which is what I mean saying that honestly some ponies are betraying Luna. First off, I'm pretty damn sure the fic somewhat early on says that Luna and Celestia discussed everything she did as NMM over 'some very tense dinners' or something after she was cleansed. To suddenly reveal 'JK, she didn't tell her about the dream rape' is retarded, and for Celestia's reaction to that being to abandon Luna is even more so. It's as if everyone welcomed her back and forgave her without knowing anything at all about NMM and the second they hear about one single thing 7 years later they all go 'Whoah, wait. That's pretty bad, I'm not too sure about you Luna.' Like come on fuckers, the whole point was she did horrible things, don't accept her after that if you don't mean itCopper's family though I don't mind. I also think Copper was maybe the best part of the fic but I'm fine with the end being her walking up to the door of her mother's house. Do I want to see how she's been after her meltdown caused her entire family to leave her? Of course, but at the end of the day that isn't the fic and Coppertone win's no matter what since she's with a princess.
>>43099975Also I just read some of the comments and lmao at all of them taking Sunset's side hating Luna. Did they all get raped at some point? fucking kek
>>43099975agree with almost everything here. some of it is even stuff i wanted to put into my previous post, but didn't have the room for.>First off, I'm pretty damn sure the fic somewhat early on says that Luna and Celestia discussed everything she did as NMM over 'some very tense dinners' or something after she was cleansed.completely forgot about that, but yeah, that makes it even worse. i honestly don't believe not only luna not telling celestia about raping sunset, but also her lying about forgiving herself to stop the tantabus. really, i just don't see them keeping big secrets from each other about basically anything.>It's as if everyone welcomed her back and forgave her without knowing anything at all about NMM and the second they hear about one single thing 7 years later they all go 'Whoah, wait. That's pretty bad, I'm not too sure about you Luna.'i can kind of get it to an extent. i can definitely see twilight looking at luna differently for a while after learning she raped sunset. it's probably not the worst thing she did, but it's new information, and it was done to a pony twilight is very close with, and it obviously still strongly affects her. what i can't get behind is twilight entertaining the idea of killing luna, even as a spiral. i really wonder how twilight would have reacted to learning that sunset didn't forgive luna. i think canon twilight would be very disappointed in sunset, but wouldn't blame her; but considering this twilight's>yes, and?loops...>I'm fine with the end being her walking up to the door of her mother's house.i'm fine with it too, for the same reason you said. that plotline isn't the main focus of the fic, and if it got as much focus as it needed to be the fullest version of itself, it would have distracted from the main story. it's still satisfying enough, but part of me still wishes it was the a-plot of a different fic rather than the b-plot of this one.>>43099987>Did they all get raped at some point?at least three of them literally claim to have, yes.
For a moment I thought I was still on /vrpg/bs/
>>43100083>i really wonder how twilight would have reacted to learning that sunset didn't forgive luna. i think canon twilight would be very disappointed in sunset, but wouldn't blame her; but considering this twilight'sYeah, I definitely won't get upset at the fic for not doing enough resolution , because we did get a good amount, but I also would've liked to see some stuff a bit more directly. Specifically involving Twilight and then maybe Celestia as you said. And I also hit 3k with mine lolAlso I didn't realize it but there were some images that I didn't see cuz i was on an e-reader>at least three of them literally claim to have, yes.wewlad but did it come to them in a dream?
>>43100100wait, you mean you read the whole thing without the pov images? how jarring was it to have the pov character swap mid-chapter with no warning multiple times?
>>43100127Not that bad, there was only maybe 2 parts in the dream where it had become Luna's PoV and I had to go back and read a page or something in a different voice, but I only ever knew because it had image credits in the epilogues and kek@ luna's image, but Twi and copper was cute
Re:CompatīI think it's being a bit presumptuous to say Celestia has abandoned Luna. In the epilogue we only see Celestia's initial reaction, and even that is quite measured and mostly hidden from us as Luna keeps her eyes closed and simply imagines the look her sister must be giving her. You two definitely make an interesting point there, though, in that (especially as depicted here) NMM has definitely done (or at least attempted to do) worse things than laughing evilly and twirling her mustache while flicking down the celestial light switch, and as bad as raping Sunset was, it makes you wonder how much it really weighs against what they've already forgiven her for. With no explicit mention of (or really any focus on) what other things she'd done as NMM, plus the much more personal nature and needless, unprovoked cruelty of the act compared against something that would be more directly in service of her larger goal of conquest/couping and personal revenge on her sister—not to mention the fact the victim is a personal friend to those judging Luna here, and the act had sent Sunset on a vicious downward spiral that had led to mamy of them casting judgement upon her without having known what she'd been through—and I don't really take issue with this part, myself. I just don't view their reactions as being as harsh or as unjustified, I guess—agree to disagree. I also feel that this Luna had been kind of a different interpretation of her character since early on, anyways—less sympathetic, and although she's changing for the better she's still not completely there yet, like the way she had no respect for Sunset's boundaries for much of the story. So, I don't really filter it through how I view the canon version of her.I also take no issue with Sunset's decision not to forgive her. You can see her over the course of the story going from being actively repulsed by just being in Luna's vicinity to having like respect for her and acknowledging just how much she's changed and is willing to change. It's more about how moving past her feelings and no longer letting them consume her doesn't have to mean they were wrong, and that acknowledging that Luna's basically a different pony than how she used to be doesn't change that she crossed a line that can never be uncrossed and that Sunset simply wants nothing to do with her. Where once she was consumed by her fear and hatred for Luna, now it's simmered down and no longer colors her everyday life or ssnd her into a fit of anxiety whenever she thinks about it, and she can just keep her distance from her and kind of leave it at that.
>>43100184As for Coppertone's epilogue, I think it's less about how her mom responds or reconnecting with her as much as it is about Coppertone confronting what she ran away from and no longer needing her mom's approval, which is why it doesn't even show their meeting because it's purely about Coppertone's decision to confront her and how her happiness doesn't rest on the actual results of it. So, I think it did its job nicely and is stronger for having cut off where it did.And as for Doppler, yeah, I think it would've been nice to see some bit of resolution there. I guess the narrative purpose he served is mostly to strengthen the depiction of Coppertone's relationship with Nocturne/NMM by showing how she easily stole her attention from him and how much more they click and how much Sunset was under her spell before the rug was pulled from her, but in that case he shouldn't have been characterized so much because he kind of gets filed under my mind as "actual character who just kind of drops off the face of the earth" instead of "narrative device that served its purpose".
>>43100184>agree to disagree.no, i think i mostly agree on that point for the most part. i think most characters' reaction to learning what luna did to sunset was pretty reasonable for how close the characters in question were to luna, and the mental state they were in at the time. the main exceptions being>yes, and?and maybe celestia. i'm not sure how i feel about her honestly. her reaction feels reasonable for a pony who isn't celestia, but i'm so sure how i feel about it coming from celestia herself. being patient, understanding, and forgiving are some of her main character traits, and she loves luna more than anything. i think it really depends on how bad you feel celestia's reaction was. if you read her as mostly just shocked, then her reaction is probably fine.>It's more about how moving past her feelings and no longer letting them consume her doesn't have to mean they were wrongand i am not happy with that ending. it's basically>dear princess celestia: i was right all along!but as the climax to a 270k word longfic.the extent of sunset's character development is going from harboring a blazing hatred towards luna, to harboring a smoldering contempt towards her. (that, and turning gay i guess.) and i don't think that's a very satisfying character arc for the main character in a fic with this premise, let alone everything i said earlier about forgiveness being inherently good, and by extention the refusal to forgive being inherently bad.>>43100188>I think it did its job nicely and is stronger for having cut off where it did.if everything about the last epilogue was the same, except it kept going, yes, i do think there's a high chance it would have been worse. i was mostly just musing about a hypothetical version of the fic i would have liked to see where copper's family drama was equally as important as sunset and luna.>he kind of gets filed under my mind as "actual character who just kind of drops off the face of the earth" instead of "narrative device that served its purpose".i did this too. i spent way too long theorizing when he might come back before finally realizing it wasn't going to happen.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/350169/shoot-for-the-moonRandomly thought of this story again and went through nearly every page in the twiluna group looking for it because I couldn't remember what it was called. It just feels like a thinly-disguised hateletter to TwiLuna, with the author's criticisms of the ship poorly delivered through the characters' mouths. Fixfic-tier.
>>43096459I did not join the cult. I came too late. If that shit caught me when I was a teen, it would have ruined my life.
>>43097286>author>collage grindcel and then became a wageslave>demonstrably mentally unwellAnon that's every member of this thread.
>>43100661Not me, I live off royalties!
>>43099416Here she is:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/574592/9/short-stories-about-fizzle-before-she-pops/a-love-letter-amusing-and-unexpectedAt the very least, that guy who claimed that he wanted to commission me should read this.
>>43100855Loli and shota are different things.
>>43101144Ah, but which is based and which is cringe? Therein lies the question.
>>43101194What if I love hags?
>>43101248>What if I love hags?Then you are my nigger
>>43101256Ah, my brethren.Got any good fic with appreciation for older mares?
>>43101288No, but we should write some
>>43100355>i did this too. i spent way too long theorizing when he might come back before finally realizing it wasn't going to happen.I definitely thought Sunset was thinking about him the first few times when she is thinking about Stone Wall, since nobody ever drops his name
>>43101248>hags?For horses, the term is "nag".
>>43101291I wrote one with Harshwhinny over a decade ago, but it was written in prose a hurry for a Harshwhinny thread so it was pretty bad and poorly thought out.I should write more haglove in the future.
>>43101346>StonewallGeez that's kinda blatant in retrospect.**Personally I dropped this story after the first act. The lesbian being obnoxious and the mom being yet another "I'm Christian and hate my GAY child" really killed it for me. Just felt pretty disjointed from this fic's main focus.**
>>43101459Homophobia in Equestria, the gayest country in America, just doesn't work. Ponies are natural racists, not homophobes.
Who else hates reading ChatGPT's default voice? We know what I mean. Incomplete sentences. From nowhere. Linguistic filler. It's not just annoying, it's a waste of my time.It's fucking obvious every time, because all of this shit and more gets used at once, never just one element or another. This is certainly how artists feel looking at a piece and realizing all of that colour blending in fact has no reason behind it whatsoever.
>>43101477ponies are homophobic, just not homophobic to the point that they'd disown their own foals if they turn out to be gay.
>>43101459sparknote deserved better and i'm gonna be the first to say it.
>>43097252No I'm refering to the guy who was literally driven insane by Roko's Basilisk and formed a death cult that killed six people in a multi-state rampage.>>43097264>half a yearThat's just a regular break, now.>>43097508I used to moralfag auto-downvote foalcon when I came across it, but now I'm too apathetic about degeneracy to care. I'd also occasionally downvote HFY shit, but that was because I'd read the comment arguments and the author would piss me off. I've never auto-upvoted a fic.>>43097840Start with the crime. Then you build off that. What was it? Who was the victim? If you're going the whodunit route, you next decide on suspects. Who might want to do it? How do they relate to the victim? Who's the real culprit and who's the reader bait? What red herrings do you lay for the reader?Then you can start developing the police characters. The main detective and what personality angle you want to use (grizzled, cynical, happy, etc.) and their partner and the dynamic they'll have that helps drive the persoanl side of the story and fill the slower sections. Toss in some extra characters to fill the cast out. Maybe a medical examiner romance interest. Or da chief who has a bad history with the detective. Or an annoying reporter who still gives some good leads. Sky's the limit.Then you tie the crime, the suspects, the false leads, and the detective together and get all the puzzle pieces fitted.>>43097889There was that "Realty Check is a pedophile who rapes Nyx" attack oneshot Reality is Stranger than Fiction that contributed to the guy leaving Fimfiction.>>43097913No, that one had a chapter where the central mystery was resolved changeling!Twilight was, in fact, really a changeling the whole time and all the misery porn she'd endured was for nothing as she was just a schizo bug and it was so universally hated by the readers the author deleted the chapter and the fic died as a result since the intended ending was despised.>>43098694>Third-party links on this site may direct you to third-party websites that are not affiliated with us. We are not responsible for examining or evaluating the content or accuracy of those materials or websites. We do not warrant and will not have any liability or responsibility for any third-party materials or websites, or for any other materials, products, or services of third-parties.Reading through their TOS, it looks like they're worried about "exclusive content" that gets paywalled on their site the credit card companies don't like. Since Fimfic doesn't post anything on SubscribeStar, they appear to be in the clear.
>>43101520>Realty Check is a pedophile who rapes NyxThat seems a little harsh, he's just a weirdo who had bad headcanons.
>>43101459On what site do you even spoiler with double asterisks?>>43101485Honestly? You're totally right—and the fact that you noticed shows just how much of a literary mastermind you are. Reading isn't just about absorbing information—it's about the style and presentation of that information. When the prose falls flat, reading it can feel like you're scraping its pancaked remains from the pavement—like a literary Looney Tunes gag that's outstayed its welcome. And when an "author" hasn't noticed just how grating their output is and publishes it anyway, it's a sure sign that they're: •Retarded: The mentally deficient—think "failed genetic experiments that needs an AI to tell them what to eat for lunch"—simply can't tell the difference between top stuff and slop that's rough, and often tend to assume anything they touch is the former. They might not even be cognisant of the fact that prompting and writing are different, the same way they'll give you that blank fluoride stare when you try to tell them that Izzy isn't going to be appearing in the new Thomas & Friends. •Brown: Monolinguists (where the mono- does not refer to English) are used to reading everything through machine translation, so when even 2011fics by English majors read to them like Grok's thesis in overformatted robot prose, they assume that their similar AI output is "blending in"—resulting in stories that are grammatically repetitive, narratively incoherent, and just a little niggerlicious. •Queer (Derogatory): It's no secret that AI enthusiasts are sick in the head, and selling your soul to an overhrown autocorrect seems to be a comorbidity with other freakiness, such as bizarre fetishism, profoundly specific hyperfixations, and severe personality disorders. It's not anecdotal; it's universal. People who think the mechanical waitress is actually falling for them can't be trusted to think rationally in other parts of their lives, either—and sadly, imagining how others might perceive the electronic diarrhea they just graced the internet with isn't the exception to the rule.Bottom line? Anyone who publishes AI slop was already severely dysgenic to begin with, and if this fandom wasn't about "love and tolerance", they would've been kicked out on a whim long before they even had the chance to touch a prompt. But hey, what do I know? I'm only all of the above:nail_care::sparkling_heart:
>>43099975>Of course Sunset can be mad about it, but Luna has been a paragon of good for 7 years straight and everyone thinks they get to reset that and be suspicious of her again once they find out she dream raped someone and that's fucking crazy to me. And yeah I com0pletely agree with you that Sunset finally accepting that yeah she doesn't ever have to forgive Luna and then absorbing her tantabus is kinda garbo, especially so when Luna essentially just went through all this because she is a good pony and the only result of her labor is that a lot more ponies hate her/ distrust her.That's how real life works. No one is going to forgive you for a particularly heinous misdeed no matter how many other good deeds you do. After you pass a certain threshold, there is quite literally nothing you can do but kill yourself. Normies don't like talking about it because that's uncomfortable, but it's a necessary sacrifice so that a known dangerous person with unknown intent doesn't keep walking alongside them.
>>43101541kek
Thread looking particularly Epsteinfilesish today.
>>43101880I can't believe Princess Twilight started a special military assault on Griffonstone to avoid answering for the files.
>>43101880it's all based on real events.
ESL king or 10 years old it’s hard to tell sometimes.
>>43102048Have you just considered he might be stupid?
>>43102074>>43102048>Stupid, stupid , or stupidA mystery
>>43102192Those are very distinct flavours of stupid.
>>43102048Liking this common whore is the ultimate whiteness test.
>>43102205Which is the whorest?Horse Rarity, or EqG Rarity?
>>43102211EqG, because yjk
>>43102226Applejack is a dog?
>>43102231NahBut her brother did get her pregnant
>>43102235Proof?
>>43102541https://manebooru.art/tags/character-colon-apple+bloom
>>43102675Applebloom is like three younger than AJ in EgQ
>>43102675>manebooruThat is the booru that that one mega gay hug box mlp discord server uses.
>>43102869Have you tried not being an edgelord?
>>43103063so do you have a an actual reason for using manebooru over twibooru or ponerpics?
>>43103066Rules 2b and 2c
>>43103082>I use manebooru because I'm a raging homosexualThanks for the info
>>43103082are you really so retarded you can't manage your filters effectively?
>>43103063What I have said is true. I do not deserved to be ridiculed, name called, and shamed for telling the truth.
>>43103228The tunigger thrives in that unfilterable muck of Fimfic which allows him to spew his vile sludge with decent anons having nary a hope of avoiding it.
>>43103228Supporting the cause is an actual reason to use it, you wouldn't understand.
>>43103633>the causeWhich is?
>>43103636Tuna
>>43103636Being better.
>>43103646Homosexuality is a sin, Anon. Try abandoning your disgusting fetish if you want to "be better".
>>43103636Fascism, despite his pretense to coat it in rainbow paint.
>>43103643Remember, you can tune an instrument, but you can't tuna princess
>Flurry is in her room scrolling through her phone she also wearing her white shirt and it's a big shirt that cover her hips ( I'm so bored) she thought to herself until she heard a tap on her window she look and saw her human Boyfriend name Gregory with black hoodie, her eyes widened in surprise as she rushed towards the window and open it " Gregory what are you doing here " Flurry saidRemember when mods used to actually enforce the rule about minimum prose quality?
Rainbow Dash makes a good protagonist for shorter fics because you can have her make snap decisions that move the story along super fast and it'll be in character.
>>43103670But I liked Audience of One...
>>43103694>Remember when mods used to actually enforce the rule about minimum prose quality?No.
>>43103698Cute ponka
>>43103656Your god can't tell me what to like.
>>43103633>>43103646go onelaboratethere's no use to being vaguewhat does being better entail?
>>43103703Too bad, maybe you'd get some taste if you listened.
>>43103710Making it more difficult for Nazis and pedophiles to find a platform.
>>43103719why are you here then
>>43103082Imagine posting that on 4chan of all places.
>>43103721To post Lunas
>>43103726you're in the nazi/pedo website btw
>>43103703i can. even among homosexual ships (all bad by default) twilight x luna is an especially bad one. they have no connection, no chemistry, they barely even interact in the show. i genuinely struggle to think of what would even make someone think they'd make a good couple. it's like shipping coco and lightning dust or something, except that actually sounds more interesting despite being equally nonsensical. out of every character in the show with luna's importance or greater, luna is absolutely among the very worst to ship with twilight.
>>43103723>>43103727I guess you just don't understand what it means to be contrarian.
>>43103734you think being a contrarian is the same as being a hypocrite?you really are stupid
>>43103734>Yurinigger is a smug faggotShocking
>>43103694I was reading that, wondering if it were real or you were just pretending right up to the end, kek. Link to the story.>Remember when mods used to actually enforce the rule about minimum prose quality?That must've been before my time.Say, has that guy who's going to start his own pony prose website made any progress yet?
>>43103733What a man
>>43103829Plot twist: That guy made Off Print.
>>43103829>has that guy who's going to start his own pony prose website made any progress yet?it's been less than two weeks. i'd be very surprised if he had.
>Stories written by AI. This includes anything that generates text that’ll be included in the story. This does not include AI based voice recognition or spelling/grammar check tools.Looks like they finally gave up on the "AI's covered by the stories you didn't write rule" and added a specific one.>>43103694>rule about minimum prose qualityAnon, the bar for that is "literally unreadable gibberish". Stuff like your greentext has been on the site since day one.
>>43103703You ignore the actual point just like you ignore how all the garbage you read is in fact such. But I suppose there’s no point arguing with a faggot online who will never allow themselves to be persuaded out of their faggotry is there?
>>43103695I was going to link The Awesome Library but I guess Mono had another BPD moment and deleted it
>>43104006Women moment
>>43103870>This does not include AI based voice recognitionYou what now
>>43104649They mean speech-to-text recognition.You're allowed it because it would be unethical to deny the right to post on Fimfic to third-worlder ESL Indians who can't afford a PC and don't really like writing all that much, so they use speech-to-text functionality and post that unedited.
>>43104656Oh so that's how samstarlightfan does it.
>>43103870My second attempt at a story (back when Fimfiction was a serious website whose mods weren't depressed lazy losers and you needed two mod approvals before you unlocked auto approval) was rejected back in the day and it was better than this.>>43103829Scroll the new column until you see AI anthro Flurry (the only good thing about the story).
When did Sunset abuse become a thing? I just saw https://www.fimfiction.net/story/588727/making-sunset-mad and I thought, “Another mud puddle fic?” But it’s not just that (it’s even stupider actually), and this trend seems to be more than just one autist with a mud fetish.
>>43104877It's actually one guy but he keeps getting banned
>>43104727>AI anthro Flurry (the only good thing about the story).Oh, so this is just a furry safehaven thread. Makes sense.
>Paul is gonna review a giantess fetish fic for some reasonLooking forward to it
>>43104967Probably a request.By someone who tried really hard to convince him it wasn't just fetish stuff.
Lo, Knighty speaketh: https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/1137895/ai-generated-content
>>43105257>those commentsThanks for reminding me why I never write anything for these drooling mongoloids anymore.
>>43105261What do you write now?
>>43105257>>43105261>all these people hating on AI coversLook, maybe they look kinda sloppy most of the time, but the site encourages you to have an eye-catching cover image. I myself ended up reading some shitty stories because they chose good art for their cover. It's simply unreasonable to ask everyone to commission or doodle shit themselves.
>>43105335Mostly whitepapers and unhinged rants.>>43105352If I could trade every instance of "pony cover on a b&thro/human/ayy story" for fitting AI gens, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
>>43105352>It's simply unreasonable to ask everyone to commission or doodle shit themselves.If only it were possible to upload a fic without a cover image
>>43105365What part of "the site encourages you to have an eye-catching cover image" is unclear to you?
>>43105366The part where it says nothing about it being a requirement.
>>43105374Sure, it's not a requirement, as long you enjoy crippling your story's visibility. AI art is perfect for this exact kind of niche scenario where a non-artist needs to have art to get the reptile brain attention before anything else kicks in.
>>43105383>catering to picture book niggersAnd then you guys wonder why you only get retards in the comments.
>>43105389The cover feature is intended to cater to them by design.
>>43105352I will not read a story with an AI cover, simple as. Get more creative, Rajeesh.
>>43105406You won't read MS Paint, Pony Maker, or coverless, either.
>>43105425So?
>>43105429So it doesn't matter what I do, meaning I can do what I want.
why not just grab a fitting pic off the boorus?
>>43105567That's simply unreasonable, they're forced to either pay for an image or make one themselves. Literally no other option. This is why we NEED to let complete and utter ai enshittification take place. No other way.
>>43105567Because some people write about obscure background ponies, or rarepairs, or other things with barely any art?
>>43105579>rarepairsIt's called a crackship you zoomer filth.
>>43105626what if it's not shipping them though?
>>43105632If you're not writing a shipfic, why are you using their brainrotten lexicon?
>>43105626Nah, rarepairs are reasonable, yet very underexplored ships. Big Mac x Twilight, Derpy x Discord, etc. Crackships are utterly deranged and only unironically enjoyed by demented freaks, typically involving crossover characters. EQG Pinkie x Thorax, Queen Chrysalis x Miles "Tails" Prower, (You) x your waifu.
>>43105639>* x Discord>not derangedok buddy
There is, as of typing this post, 3,665, 341 images and/or animations on twibooru. On top of that there is god knows how many images on the internet that someone writing a fanfiction might want to use as a thumbnail image. It seems unlikely to me that there somehow isn’t an image or a segment of an image for whatever kind of story or stories most people would manage to come up with and want to right. If you don’t think anything is suitable that is a matter of the standards one chooses to hold themselves to.
>>43105389It's almost like we're writing for fans of a cartoon for preschoolers.
>>43105567Because tardtists will come have a shitfit in the comments about how you didn't ask for their explicit written permission.
>>43105659okay? seething in the comments is the literal only thing they can do. they have no power over me.
>>43105666But, Satan! What if...they say my fic is...BAD???
>>43105648>If you don’t think anything is suitable that is a matter of the standards one chooses to hold themselves to.It's that + liking uncommon characters. You won't be spoiled with options if you ever decide to do a Gladmane story.
>>43105642Derpy x Discord would be based and you know it, faggot
>>43105383>crippling your story's visibilityI actively go out of my way to avoid any fic I see with an AI generated cover image. Some of my favorite fics are ones without covers or ones that just use screenshots from the show. You are encouraging everyone that isn't a drooling subnormal to avoid your story like the plague by using AI covers
>>43105717Nobody cares.
>>43105648You're forgetting the cohort of authors that ask "wait, has someone done this before?" and then only execute the idea if it has no competition. You'll accuse them of having overly high standards, but they can be easily recognized as self-selecting for stories that don't have ready-made cover art pictures.
>>43105727The worm in your brain is almost done eating. You will sleep soon.
>>43105711Alright, Cockburn Neckbeard.
>>43105727>the cohort of authors that ask "wait, has someone done this before?" and then only execute the idea if it has no competition.yoy guys don't actually do this, right?
>>43105748There is literally a rarepair contest that happens every year, am I not supposed to practice my skills in contests now?
>>43105352>>43105383>writing for updoots and internet fame instead of for the artThis kind of thing is why people are arguing against AI usage, because the point is to value human creativity over whatever can best harness the algorithm. Like other anons have said, there are plenty of existing cover images that exist on the boorus, and you're always free even to edit or stitch together existing images if they aren't autistically specific enough to your story.
>>43105755what?
>>43105741>t. seething Flutterkike
>>43105793He’s trying to say that the May Pairings Contest encourages writers to do exactly the thing you criticize, namely, make an effort to check that nobody has written about a specific pairing before. And he would have a legitimate point, too, if the people who ran the contest weren’t drama queens. I know some anons have entered, but it’s a contest I personally don’t want to get anywhere near.
who bake
>>43105900Ok, I'll do it.
>unironic maneglazingShould've seen that coming, but I still appreciate getting free advertising from my antis.>>43105642I readily support Raricord for the simple reason that they'd make each other miserable.>>43105813I'd have gone with "Crusty Neckbeard".
>>43105932>I readily support Raricord for the simple reason that they'd make each other miserable.fuk you Rarity would find the beauty in chaos and Discord would fall for Rarity's organized chaos method of working
>>43105946>>43105951Rarity's "idea room" isn't organized chaos, it's an attempt at divining meaning from noise. Common among self-styled auteurs, but incomparable to an unsightly incarnation of entropy.
>>43105971Unnecessary to link a bait post
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