Essential croonershit?
>>121550127Watertown for me
croonerkino is a singles focused genre
Ultimate Sinatra is a great album
>>121550138absolutely not
Chet Baker > all other crooners
>>121550127There is no essential croonershit. You can go your entire life without needing this reddit garbage
>>121550325Is everything you don’t like Reddit?
>>121550138>croonerkino is a singles focused genreIt depends. In the 78 era obviously it was because there were no LPs. And the bad thing is that Sinatra dominated the format so completely that listening to other singers is only a letdown; nobody else really came close to him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK_yz_Zl9LwAnd in that spirit I leave you with one of FS's less famous contemporaries laying down the bobby soxer love man tunes which your grandma may or may not have schlicked herself to.
>>121550454No but everything reddit, I don't like
>>121550530man how old are you if your grandma was alive and old enough to have pubic hair in 1947? my grandma was born in 1963.
>>121550598I bet she has a really hairy snatch, too.
>>121550584The mark of a dedicated pseud.
>The period following World War II and the demise of the big bands was generally regarded as a drab, banal era of popular music. Only two types of songs existed--the romantic ballad and the novelty tune, both sung in the 32-bar crooner style and featuring singing and arrangements largely inspired by classical and opera. Lyrics were monosyllabic and saccharine; suggestive words were not allowed and it was up to the singer to add meaning and sexuality to them through his or her delivery (as singer-songwriter Randy Newman once remarked "Behind every good metaphor in a song is mainly fucking.") The ballad was considered the moneymaker and usually the A-side of a record.>Radio stations in this era were deeply risk-adverse and generally avoided anything controversial. Black artists and bands were not played on white radio outside Nat King Cole. Music featuring patriotic or religious themes was also avoided.>Although rock-and-roll would be decried as juvenile slop compared to the "sophisticated, adult" music that came before it, that belies the fact that pre-rock pop was mainly romantic music for young urbanite couples. It was a plain vanilla kind of lovemaking, music for couples who had missionary-only sex with the lights off. None of the songwriters who penned these songs would have considered them serious or sophisticated music; most were consciously aware that it was banal material written for a paycheck in a time when showtunes were what gave a songwriter artistic credentials.
>>121550127no you're not your grandparents or an extra in Boardwalk Empire
>>121552374Nobody here is old enough to have grandparents who were adults in the 40s
>>121553741My paternal grandfather turned 18 in 1948
>>121553751Is he still alive tho?
>>121550127Ol Man Riverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh9WayN7R-s
>>121550127Taylors tortured poets album was her attempt to do a theme album about being depressed over a romantic breakup. But its too long and too confused and unfocused.
for me it's Scott Walker https://youtu.be/fSzOcvAJmi0?si=h2S8XPgDsBN5nJx9
>>121553741my grandfather was born in 1925, he's 99 years old today and well. He still listens to Carlos Gardel.
>>121553741I'm 34. All four of my grandparents were born in the 1920s.
>>121554426Take Care was kind of trying to be In The Wee Small Hours for the 2010s. Too bad the music sucked dick.
>>121550598My grandma had multiple children before ww2 broke out, and then had more afterwards.
>>121553839>Ol Man River>written by ((Oscar Hammerstein II))
>>121554683I know. Old Man River is a Jewish man's projecting Jews being pogrom-ed and kicked around in Ukraine onto blacks.
>>121550491It happens a lot. Just like how Metallica dominated thrash metal and nobody really came close to them or how nobody ever matched Eminem in white guy rap.
>>121550127Is it still croonershit when a woman does the same style of music?
Well, i like The Fly and Naked Lunch
>>121554795https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEDyFmZ7P9YGril singers were usually called "canaries." But for this era of music don't just look to studio recordings, radio broadcasts were important as well especially because singers often performed songs on the radio that they never cut to disc.
Perry Como is godtier. Jack Jones was the best Brit crooner. >>121554426This has nothing to do with crooner music.
>>121554888the late 40s was a really sleepy low energy era of music. probably after the war people just needed to give their senses a rest for a while.
>>121554649get Take Care's name out of your fucking mouth
>>121550127https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYV6kb5P9Q
>>121555134yeah that's pretty fucking bad. this and Pat Boone were hits with the dork kids who found Elvis too intimidating.
>>121555166What about Buddy Holly?
>>121554989>This has nothing to do with crooner music.Ok well Dino belongs on any list of crooner music. https://youtu.be/KqVUwJvde44?si=MDie4kOcvTA9T3Vw
Mel Torméhttps://youtu.be/MOFIwO3e_cc?si=Kx4jk02Y-IRDQT1s
>>121554997>well i suppose nobody's happy after a world war
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O04VcM_RY8gPatti Page's breakout hit from 1948 which was famous for the vocal doubler gimmick that became a hallmark of her recordings. It's a quite pleasant little tune that runs on a nice jazz arrangement instead of stringslop or big band slop and actually has a decent melody which a lot of songs from this era didn't.
>>121555261oh of coursehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svXxeaWwIno
>>121553812Yeah
This music is shit. Many boomers were conceived to it.
Bobby Darin’s Mack the Knife is one of the greatest recordings of all time.
>>121554989>Perry Como is godtier...at putting you to sleep
>>121556213Ever listen to Bobby Darin's later albums?
>>121555134His 40s stuff is where it’s at >>121555166Perry and Pat are both better than Elvis https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fw7vYUGIlY&pp=ygUeRnVsbCBtb29uIGFuZCBlbXB0eSBhcm1zIHBlcnJ5
>>121556351the 50s ruined him like it did a lot of his peers>>121550530Johnny Desmond's 50s records were also kind of meh.
>>121556351>Perry and Pat are both better than Elvis>Pat better than ElvisAt least Elvis had more energy, Pat was a snooze!
>>121550127I listened to that album on loop 6 stories over a college campus with snow falling at midnight, yellow streetlamps and zero cars after freshman year winter finals that I had failed, halfway through my only year of college.Thank you for reminding me of a bittersweet moment in my life
>>121556419they say that Sinatra, Doris Day, and Peggy Lee didn't become fully developed singers until the 50s which is somewhat true. i find PL's 50s-60s output kind of self-indulgent compared to her 78 era records and Ella Fitzgerald's 50s-60s records were even more self-indulgent. Doris got better because she wasn't a very good singer pre-Mitch Miller.
>>121556464ha ha yes PB was astonishingly boring. some of the records have good arrangements but his nodding off to sleep vocals ruin it.
the crooner sound was a very Northeast/NYC style and it's still kind of revered there by New York boomers. but because the Depression caused the recorded music biz to shrink to largely be centered in the New York area as nobody else could afford a recorded music biz, NYC dominated and almost had a monopoly on music for years until the economic expansion of the 50s caused new labels to start and other styles of music became popular instead,
>>121554521based
>>121556309Yeah, the folk stuff I’m assuming you mean, I like it all, I’m pretty big on his whole body of work.
>>121550325>frank sinatra>reddityou have brain damage
>>121554521Scott 3-4 are essential albums in general. Scott 1-2 are essential croonershit
>>121554521>>121557017>>121562990Yeah Scott Walker is the undeniable zenith of the whole crooner genre. The voice, the delivery, the arrangements, the song selection. Just doesn't get any better. 1 & 2 are his best albums though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gDf7misJvkthat's corny af, man
>>121563776This was a song originally written in the 1890s and requires some context.>I can't afford a stylish marriage>But you'd look so sweet>On the seat>Of a bicycle built for twoBecause there was a severe economic depression in the US in the 1890s and that's what it's alluding to. The song was revived and covered by Dinah Shore on an early recording of hers from 1941 and works there in the context of Depression-era America but this Nat King Cole version was just cheese and wouldn't have made a lot of sense in the 60s when the times were good.
>>121563776sounds good to me
>>121550584Not doing something because someone you don't like is doing it is basically the same as being controlled by them. How about you just don't give a fuck what redditors do? You are probably going to like some of the same things as people you don't like once in a while anon.
>>121563833neat. could be well revived, no?>I can't afford a stylish marriage>The wedding cake cost $50 more than it did last year (thanks, Joe)>But you'd look so sweet>On the seat>Of a bicycle built for two
>>121550127weezer pinkerton
>>121563871>it won’t be a stylish marriage >I can’t gyatt a Fanum tax >but you’ll look rizzed >upon the lid>of a skibidi toilet
>>121563871that's ok, there's no Millenial/Gen Z women worth marrying anyway
Neil Sedaka roy orbinson
>>121550127ONLY THE LONELY KNOW
>>121564126>>>/r9k/
It was at the start of the 50s when Teresa Brewer and Rosemary Clooney emerged with more punchy vocal styles that the first move away from crooner singing in pop music was apparent.
>>121550774https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKxg6TCMfwYCute little song that's basically an adaption of "A Bicycle Built For Two."
>>121554521you're goddamn right it is
>>121550774>It was a plain vanilla kind of lovemaking, music for couples who had missionary-only sex with the lights off.Silent Generationers didn't know how good they had it.
