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Who's better and why? Let's settle this once and for all.
https://strawpoll.com/GJn478qMbyz
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Not music.
Both should die in an avalanche.
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>>121570838
You = retard
GTFO
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>>121570887
Stay mad, faggot.
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>>121570816
lana easy
better voice and more interesting music
also sexier personality. taylor swift is too basic
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>>121570816
the one who has a fat asshole. my vote goes to lana
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>>121570983
But Lana's music is very samey. If Taylor is basic then Lana is even more.
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>>121570960
Nobody who's not used to seething regularly saves an image like this
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Where's their Gee?
Where's their TT?
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>>121570816
Stay in your containment thread, coomer retard.

>>121509727
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>>121571094
Kys faggot
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>>121570816
I'm going to go with Lana. Her work has an air of depth and mystery and is just steeped in many more layers. Taylor's songs are easy to decode if you have even a passing familiarity with her exes and fueds.
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>>121570816
well only one had ripped off the other so that should tell you something
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>>121570816
Taylor is a better musician
But Lana (Elizabeth Woodridge Grant) is Lady Gaga's Arch Nemesis so that's pretty hot
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>>121570816
oh sorry, does taylor have a towering achievement like "the blackest day" in her catalog? maybe i missed it. does she have unreleased ABBA-tier pop songs like "queen of disaster" or "roses (original 80s version)"? i'm unaware of them. can she make a shitty bose speaker fuck me like "freak/art deco"? tell me, maybe this is a closer race than i think
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>>121570838
Based
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>>121571014
Taylor swift songs are all I IV V vi ii standard boring bullshit. Lana has a few modal tunes
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>>121570838
fobs
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>>121570816

Taylor Swift gives me praying mantis vibes like she's gonna bite my head off or have teeth in her pussy if I try to hook up with her - Taylor feels like a predatory creature that was bred in a lab to secure bread from white women.

Lana just gives me the vibe of a boring art hoe who knows she can't use her decent looks and voice to coast for much longer, but at least she seems like an actual human being who I could have a drink with. I could see Lana working at mcdonalds or target or just somewhere in the real world - Taylor Swift feels like she could only exist on camera during this era of whole foods bush/Obama neoliberalism she came up in, an era that is thankfully ending as we enter a multipolar world.

I think of Taylor Swift the same way I think of frutiger aero or some corporate art style - she was engineered to be a product. Lana feels like an actual person - like a mid artist that sucked the right dicks to get where she is today. Taylor feels like a doll meant to sell albums, clothes, and NFL tickets to girls - Lana feels like an overvalued artist who won't be remembered in 10 more years.
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>>121574636
Manlet detected
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>>121574636
>"Taylor Swift feels like she could only exist on camera during this era of whole foods bush/Obama neoliberalism she came up in"
>"an era that is thankfully ending"
>TPD flops
how did you know
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>>121574699
Because america has been demographically raped and destroyed. You can't go to omaha nebraska without seeing poo in loos, beans, ns, swarthoids of all shapes and sizes. The age of the white is over. The age of the orc is now.
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>>121574636
but if you actually look into lana's history, you get a picture of someone who is obsessed with music like a fan as well as fascinated by songwriting. this seems freakishly rare in this realm of mainstream popularity
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>>121574816
So why is all of it low bpm 4/4 with no memorable leads or basslines
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>>121574829
because she's a girl so she can't play anything or really into harmony. her genius is in vocal melodies and lyrics. however i would say she has benefitted from very good production on the whole and on that front you can't discount the contribution of her own good taste
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>>121574872
I've burned myself out on stuff like this to the point where the only low bpm i can listen to has to still have a ton of notes like bill evans
https://youtu.be/IxEIQQkhyeI?si=fqmlrr6WstxvLED1
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>>121574636
Imagine being dead and your smol pp immortalized in song...
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>>121574668
Why does height matter so much to you? Projection much? I'm 5'9 and I've literally never had my height mentioned once on a date, nor have I ever had issues getting laid or getting a gf. I'm just participating in this dumb thread for fun. Touch grass, fag

>>121574816
That's the interesting thing: she's such a fan of music and she's actually a smart woman - but she just isn't very talented. She probably had to do a lot of favors to get where she is (as is standard practice for most very famous people actually). She seems like she doesn't belong there any way you slice it. Doesn't fit the corporate vibe and she isn't crazy talented or hot - she seems the most like a normal person compared to Taylor and her ilk. That being said I'm still not much of a fan of Lana - she's fine.

>>121574740
Ignore this retard he's falling for the rightoid pipeline trap - it's the same type of dead-end as the "progressive" pipeline. He doesn't understand socioeconomics at all and has no idea why the neoliberal hegemony is actually ending. This literally has everything to do with imperialism and next to nothing to do with race or migration or "wokeism" or any stupid shit like that. All that crap is put out by the same oligarchs who pump the virtue signalling woke crap. It's all bs meant to get us to attack each other instead of our slavers.

>>121574699
Cuz I pay attention. Just look at gold prices - that alone will tell you that this cute little rent-seeking service-sector consumption bubble we're all trapped in is about to burst badly. There will be no room for such saccharine and obnoxiously corporate mega-"artists' like Taylor. BRICS is on the way up and the West is on the way down - simple as. Nothing can be done to change that either and the West did it to ourselves when we started the whole neoliberal project in the 70s instead of just cannibalizing our wealthy oligarchy and the military industrial complex like a smarter nation would've. It's so jover lol
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>>121575762
>Why does height matter so much to you? Projection much? I'm 5'9 and I've literally never had my height mentioned once on a date, nor have I ever had issues getting laid or getting a gf. I'm just participating in this dumb thread for fun. Touch grass, fag
Because taylor is 5'10, female height
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>>121575762
>Ignore this retard he's falling for the rightoid pipeline trap - it's the same type of dead-end as the "progressive" pipeline. He doesn't understand socioeconomics at all and has no idea why the neoliberal hegemony is actually ending. This literally has everything to do with imperialism and next to nothing to do with race or migration or "wokeism" or any stupid shit like that. All that crap is put out by the same oligarchs who pump the virtue signalling woke crap. It's all bs meant to get us to attack each other instead of our slavers.
he fell for marxist classism, meanwhile the immigration reform act of 1965 happened and the fabians took over the anglosphere. sad. so this is the power of public education
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>>121575815
So? I've dated chicks taller than me (one was a literal model so she was like 6'5) - it's super fucking hot to dominate a woman who's bigger than you, it makes you feel so powerful to bring some Amazonian bitch to tears and have moan your name. That being said, Taylor is still too weird and creepy for me. I feel like I'm gonna be cursed fucking her.

>>121575950
Obviously you use ethnic minorities to create tensions amongst the workers - that's an imperial tactic as old as fucking Mesopotamia. It only works for a little while though before those disparate groups either tear each other apart ala Yugoslavia (although the US bombing campaign did as much to obliterate that country as ethnic tensions did) - or the groups unite against their common enemy. You are saying nothing new or interesting with your little counter. In fact you are reducing it down to population demographics - that is an artificial and arbitrary issue. You could fit the entire world population comfortably in Texas if you had to - and most people get along with each other just fine if left to their own devices. The actual issue is we have a predatory class of oligarchs - most of whom are related by blood and participate in esoteric rituals and death cults - that actively inflames tensions and creates artificial scarcity, as well as arbitrary and false problems and conflicts - all so they can maintain the control they've had for thousands of years now.


You are still trapped in your little bubble, still thinking in "-isms" and purely material ideological frameworks. I am merely an awakened human who sees beyond these small things. I'm trying to get humanity to spiritually advance - which requires us to materially advance first. We are being held back by the global socioeconomic system as it is - but thankfully that is changing. The decline of American culture internationally (such as with the recent lukewarm performance of the new Taylor Swift album) is just a sign of this transition.
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>>121576176
They are importing ethnic minorities both as a direct result of the fiat ponzi scheme/ socialized retirement & health care ponzi scheme and because breaking up demographics makes a population easier to control. Sending in a large foreign ethnic minority is the same tactic stalin used on all of the USSR satellite countries. It works by destroying any sense of unity or unique cultural identity. For the record, the fabians are a phony socialist organization from britian that coined the gradualist progressive tactics widespread today. Infiltration of political, banking, and education institutions in order to effect social change toward their goals is laid out in their manifesto. This is in direct contrast to marx who advocated direct takeover. Lenin despised them because he saw them as the merchant class using the carrot of some socialist reforms to bring workers onto their sides with unions as the strategy that it ultimately was and is- business getting in bed with government to legislate away competition and using hoardes of dumbasses to do so. And the result is the bongistan you see before you today, a nannystate with zero upward mobility potential for the common man. And across the west where these tactics have swollen and been implemented you can see the effect personally at the micro level where none of us gets to live with like-people, we have no community, and we have a degraded low trust culture. This is just a side effect of the larger goals. It's not about class, class is a spook. It is about controlling the state and the mob for the goals of the oligarchy. And you can join them if you want, they don't rule out newcomers. You just can't have any ethics. Widespread multiculturalism is disgusting and it is the destruction of culture.
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>>121576176
6'5 is too tall to model for both women and men retard
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>>121570816
Considering Swift has been stealing all of Lana's shit since 2019
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Lana is a better vocalist in the studio, though both women are terrible live performers.

Lana's songs aren't as catchy, but they have better production and I think the quality of the songwriting is superior to Swift's best.

Lana is capable of writing lyrics that don't specifically refer to certain very public situations of her life, and that content puts her about Swift as 90% of Swift's discography is just that. Taylor will write being stupid enough to get used by a dude who was just looking for a fling, but try to make it poetic by writing something like "your cheshire grin was a joker in my half-full deck". Dressner, who was responsible for Folklore and Evermore, will read the line, groan, but refuse to tell her how stupid it is.
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Lana and Taytay have been lezzing out with eachother for YEARS. They've had oceans of wild porno sex with eachother on countless occasions.
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>>121570838
kek
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>>121570816
both, at the same time
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>>121570816
I was a big LDR fan until I saw her at Coachella last weekend.
She was ass, the show was ass, she's no longer doing the "Lana del Rey" as a persona, she's just "famous person (kind of) singing songs".

I thought she was going to be great.
It was like she hadn't sung in years.
Her voice was shit, her backing track did most of the singing, and she didn't care.
The second half of the show, she was barely part of it.

I'd really hyped her up tp my friends, too.
I felt like a fool.
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>>121570816
There's not a single metric in which Taylor is better than Lana, you'll know for sure in 30 years when the former will be forgotten and the latter will be iconic.
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>>121578201
She is always ass live
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What the fuck is that plebbit format doing in a 4chan thread?
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>>121578520
Sales
Net worth
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>>121575762
>she's such a fan of music and she's actually a smart woman
>She seems like she doesn't belong there any way you slice it. Doesn't fit the corporate vibe
this all seems pretty insightful, so i don't know how you can miss the conclusion. she IS crazy talented, that's how she got the enormous promotional push she did for an out-of-step debut album where she wrote all the songs. maybe she did favors, she's certainly alluded to it. doesn't change anything
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Lana has listed Fellini as a influence I'm going with her
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>Lana feels like an overvalued artist who won't be remembered in 10 more years.
Funny, this is what I would've said around 10 years ago. Yet her catalog has shown remarkable durability for someone who gets little to no radio play and doesn't splash on big promo cycles. I wouldn't go so far as to predict that Lana will end up in some grand songwriters' hall of fame, as some people do, but even if her mainstream popularity fades (which it inevitably will at some point) she'll definitely remain a huge cult artist, especially if she just changes up her formula every once in a while. Born to Die is about as 'classic' as a full-length LP can get in the 21st century.
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talyor swift should have sex with ugly homeless guys with smegma desu
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>>121570816
that's like asking me to choose between great value bread and filet mignon
Lana easily
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Mommy Lana
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>>121578170
where has this picture of lana been all my life



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