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Satanic Speed Metal edition

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>>121790322
absolutely based edition
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>non-meme edition
am I dreaming?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7mFcM0PQ5s
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BLASTING
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Artist: Darkthrone
Album: Panzerfaust
Song: Beholding The Throne of Might

>And destruction upon the holy man
>Who hails a jew
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>>121790619
Varg Vikernes about the Early Norwegian Scene gathering in Helvete(direct quotation):

>Turns out that, pretty much everybody were so-called "racist", they were anti-immigration, they were pro-nationalist, we cultivated this
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Last good edition we've had was the Taake one. This edition is a total meme
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taake fucking blows lmao
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Abigail
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Taake is neither good nor bad
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>>121790811
Correct
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>>121790669
Ah yes, the nth BM meme edition is totally not a meme bro
Must be nice being 14
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>>121790820
If you look for more schizos this is just the place we have dozens (probably just one)
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Who’s the most iconic manlet in metal? I need some inspo
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>>121791001
>Most iconic
Probs dio
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https://open.spotify.com/album/0hLB4CxCG2JwzuDCYqtr64
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Glen Benton killed Steve Albini.
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>>121791122
>BigMac (NEW)
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>never got to hear an Albini recorded extreme metal album
Shame
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>>121791001
danzig
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>>121790669
Correct.
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>>121790984
The avantasiafag turned out to be about 3 or 4 recognisable schizos all in one.
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>>121790524
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>>121791376
I realized that moment he started samefagging to hector and pretending to be him
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>>121791376
Who else? The cartoon robot avatarfag?
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NOCTURNO CULTOOOOOOO
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>brown schizo crying about schizos ruining generals
they really have no self-awareness do they
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^Uokschizobro?^
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lol
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>>121790524
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>>121791732
Did they say "Slipknot is metal, Heil Hitler" or how'd they get 0% on ma?
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>>121791807
It's just a dogshit-sounding bunch of rerecorded songs. Also, that original AI cover was far better than the new one, which looks like a cheap live album.
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>>121791955
>Rerecorded
Ew, pestilence washed up and mastered for blutooth pills... Understandable.
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>>121790322
based
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Is thall the next evolution of metal?
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I just realized I'm too uneducated to write good lyrics. Now what?
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>>121792120
no, it's yall
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>>121792239
Read books
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>>121792239
Google translate into German and claim it's nsbm
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>>121792239
get a.i. to do it. You can also rip good things off and change them a little
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Grindcore
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>>121792448
What about it?
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we were blessed to live in a timeline where Albini worked with HHH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uY3DmzVL4Q
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>>121792448
>>121792473
Not metal
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>>121792448
>>121792473
Metal
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>>121791001
its danzig, yeah
>>121791376
what? i never did anything excessive. you are conflating someone else's shitposting with mine. it would be disheartening to find out that 4 of the total 14 people who post here was just me.
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>I'm browsing books again
This is why I don't even try starting a music collection outside downloading. I'd go fucking broke.
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I just wanted to say hi to you autistic schizos and let you know how pathetic you are huhuhuhuhu
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEyTNjKrgww
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>>121793018
Not metal
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>>121793018
Nazissy homo noise
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>>121791376
I'm nearly positive the reason they removed the IP count was to hide how many posts on this site are made by a relatively few mentally ill losers
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>>121790524
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>>121793171
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>>121793133
The removal of poster count was the straw that broke this general's back
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>>121793555
It's still obvious there's just a few deranged spammers, but for some reason posters here engage them as if they are actually here to talk about metal instead of only shit up thread
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The Baise ma Hache half of this is peak blast beats. If a band includes a double bass, it will make or break an entire album. It either sounds flat and artificial or deep and overflowing with SOVL
https://youtu.be/tkK2CoKnP-A
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/metal/ covers with old bearded men on the cover art like pic rel? Odin, Väinämöinen etc.

Ensiferum - Ensiferum comes to mind, Burzum - The Ways of Yore too. What else?
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>>121793672
Also it's confirmed he's janny affiliated.
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>>121793672
>>121793843
debunked
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>>121793843
prebunked
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>>121790524
Considering the OP
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Listening to Filosofem for the first time in 3 months, I forgot how fucking hard it slaps.
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>>121794003
Do you listen any real metal? Or only this black shit etc.?
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>>121794033
<<dont reply to this mentally ill schizo>>
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Is there really such an autistic division between black metal and death metal fans IRL? Or is it just some autists on the internet?
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>>121794219
comparing death metal to black metal is like comparing nickelback to nirvana
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>>121794219
No. Most have a preference but like stuff from both.
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>faggots shitting up the thread by complaining about boogymen shitting up the thread

>>121793646
double bass isnt mandatory for making your shit sick as fuck? also the vocals got so much better later that it ruins it for me

>>121794033
whats wrong with the trve metal?
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>>121794219
Autists on the internet
Whenever I talk to people at gigs they just like a wide range of things. Like, I went to one of the dates of last month's Marduk tour, and chatting with some guys (and girls) we were talking how they enjoyed the hell out of seeing Judas Priest, then talking about the latest Necrot album and going to see Megadeth and so on.
Of course most people have a preference, mine's BM but I also listen to most metal subgenres.
I sure hope you don't think the shitposters in sewage of /meal/ are the norm kek
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>>121794219
Autists on the internet who probably never even played an instrument. No actual metalhead has the genre war retard mentality
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>>121794452
I know many metal musicians who never would listen any black shit
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>>121794219
The latter for the most part
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>>121794503
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I often have fistfights over genre autism at gigs.
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>>121794219
I don't know. I only listen to Raw Black Metal. Other genres sound like pop to me. Like Beyonce or some shit, it's all same to me.
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>>121794546
Is that the deodorant you refuse to wear?
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>>121794573
because you are a teenager, timothy
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For me, it's early Kreator
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>>121794620
i kneel before the white noise infused sauerkraut eating contest
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>>121794620
based
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>>121793805
i'd say gorguts - obscura but i'm not sure if it's some old dude or a pig head
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>>121792448
>Fagcore
Fuck off tranny
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>>121794620
Early Kreator is best but I don't mind some of the latter records like Hordes of Chaos, Enemy of God or Phantom Antichrist.

>>121794578
Listen gookposter, you have 5 or more active threads where you can dump pics your plastic ridden whores.
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>>121794838
>>121794620

What about Destruction
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>>121794799
>fugcore
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esteemed riffs?
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>>121794219
>Lofi, trebly guitars, with shrieking
>Caveman chugging with dissonance in order to be le experimental
They definitely have an obvious difference faggot
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>>121794860
All music has riffs anon
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Sodom>>>Tankard>Kreator>Destruction
German thrash is overrated.
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>>121794870
?
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>he keeps spamming plastic bug whores while leaving terrible bait
Tiresome.
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>>121790322
Immortal are still not black metal. Without the makeup and branding no own would think that they're a black metal band. Believing that Immortal is black metal is the same as believing that Ghost is a metal band because shitty publications told you so. Stop being a poser sheep and listen to the actual music for once. Abbath doing crazy frog vocals isn't BM either.
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>>121794980
Now that I think of the Norseshit scene, Immortal might be the ONLY good black metal band Norway was able to produce
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Haha le funny reddit dog meme so epic. Remember when this was funny in 2012? He he
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why are 4chuds obsessed with reddit
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>spurdo is a dog now
>m-muh reddit
lmao, the absolute state of gookshitposters
>>121795063
They post there, guaranteed. Somehow they know what's popular there, what is allowed, the writing style and whatnot without going there? Right.
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Only soulless scandinavians would find Spurdoodoo the wholesome Redditdog funny.
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>>121794980
We really don't care Joshua
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>>121795350
Whatever you say Chris
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>>121790524
This blast is dedicated to Adolf Hitler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHJTYsjNYKw
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>>121795729
This blast as well!
>*blasts a mega diarrhea doo doo fountain right in der Führer's face*
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>>121790322
cringe
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>>121794980
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>>121795796
Leave the hall poser
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Speed Metal revival used to be good until every whoreson and their whoremother thought it would be a good idea to start their own shitty speed metal band.
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holy shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rpp1-8q2EM
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FUCKS GIVEN ABOUT U : 000000000
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>>121792448
Peak.
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>>121795964
>le satanism
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>>121796124
If you are not a card-carrying Satanist, you have no place here.
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>>121795964
Speed metal is for posers, poserboy. Elite don't listen to that shit.
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>>121794219
>Or is it just some autists on the internet?
it's always this. go to actual shows IRL to talk about music and everyone gets along. it's only socially maladjusted shut-ins that have a tantrum when you don't like the same things they do
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>go to actual shows IRL to talk about music and everyone gets along
no one wants to talk with me
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satanism is fucking gay. look at how big of a homo Nergal is
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>>121796508
Maybe if you started to shower and/or learned how to properly wipe your ass...
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>>121796563
Satanists are little more than gay(er) libertarians
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>>121796563
Satanism is for sodomites, but metal is still cool faggot.
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>>121790689
... blows Niklas
>>121796563
Yes but paganism is also gay. Just look at (Hoe)st the gay sex haver
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>>121796785
Religions in general are for sodomites and losers. No real man cares about any -ism crap.
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FOR UNLAWFUL
CARNAL KNOWLEDGE
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>Religions in general are for sodomites and losers. No real man cares about any -ism crap.
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>>121790524
For me its furia
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>>121796563
>Nergal
>satanist
lmao, it's all a facade,dude wanted to donate to fucking UNICEF, do you think that's some satanic shit?
It's just a facade like for Dimmu Borgir and... 99.999% of the bands?
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>>121790524
Once you get past the weird production, this is an extremely enjoyable album, potentially their best.
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>>121796204
i didnt think satanists actually existed other than 13 year olds
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finna heem
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Did you guys even talk about the new Darkthrone at all? Was it as shit as the other new stuff?
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>>121798525
Cool, cool. I will give it a listen then
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>>121798525

Stop hating i listen to NSBM and kpop
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These hippie anti Americans being allowed in the scene is going to be the demise of it.
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>>121798654
Merica bad
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>>121790322
any metal without cymbals? i always hated it
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>>121798603
I only feel pity for someone like you. Genuinely like I'm looking at a quadriplegic kid.
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>>121790322
>sneedtanic feed metal edition
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>>121791197
he did a zao album which is pretty good
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>>121798814
Sounds more like anger and frustration to me my dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mxZKrWlI-U
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What the fuck was his problem?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1faoreMaZQ
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>>121792448
Based, we love and respect the genre that paved the way for extreme metal here.
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olla hyvällä tuulella ;)
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>>121795793
BASED
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>>121798927
What's he listening to?
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>>121796204
>>121796240
you need to be 18 to post here.
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Varg heemed Steve Albini straight to hel
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Steve Albini? More like Steve Alibi because he and Varg were fucking the night Euro was murdered
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>>121798457
I think the consensus is its pretty decent trad/doom kinda stuff. some cool riffs but zero black metal
I liked it more than the last 2
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>>121798983
you should spell it "hell" since that's the spelling Varg used for his latest grift book
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>>121799078
braindead zoomers think a stapler just puts holes into things
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>>121799097
it's not true and it's just a joke
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>>121799097
people talk about what a pedantic asshole you are after you leave a room
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>>121796830
Hoest is the Diddy of Europe, he picked drugged out homeless Niklas up off the street and gave him a career in exchange for sexual pleasure and now publicly humiliates him to remind him who is the boss
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>>121799312
Correct.
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>>121799312
Z E S T Y
E
S
T
Y
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>>121799097
>getting this upset over a cat video
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The cocking guns are an awesome touch
Famine a genius
https://youtu.be/FNYzD58Jy8I
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>>121799444
I just noticed this for the first time but is that the smoking World Trade Center on the album cover? It fits in with the theme of Peste Noire hating Islam but it's also an interesting choice for an album that is so thoroughly French
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>>121799486
I think you dooby right
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>>121799444
me on the left
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>>121794573
i listen to raw black metal as well, but damn you're a faggot you make us look bad
(black metal subgenres as an a whole aren't underground as you think are)
dsbm and raw black metal pretty popular nowadays especially
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>>121799486
No one believes that Islam did 9/11 lol
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>>121793805
Apraxia - Hymns of Dark Forests
what do i win?
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>>121793805
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>>121797940
What’s wrong with that cat
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thoughts? they seem like the biggest posers Tbh
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>>121800201
I heard that euronomos heemed the drummer back in 92 because he spilled a milkshake in helvete
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>>121800201
early stuff is good but yeah they're heads got too big with the commercial success (relatively speaking of course)
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>>121799444
Kekking at Anne Frank, bottom right.

>>121799839
Correct.
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>>121800086
It's not expiring in a dog's jaw
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>>121798654
>american metal
https://voca.ro/1lN22L6XPCSv
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHs94mayeCc
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>>121800241
>Euronymous heeming anyone
I'm skeptical, but if he did heem anyone, it'd be someone from Watain
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>>121800241
so he heemed a 12 year old?
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Isn't all OSDM just DeathThrash?
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Glen Benton paid my cab fare
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>>121800786
that sounds about like the upper limit of person he could heem
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the unheemable
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>goil I was talking to blocked me out of nowhere
It is time to listen to metal, lads.
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>>121800857
Unthinkably cringe image, mongrel post.
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>>121800877
I might be cringe but that doesn’t mean I’m different
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkoYsXDvL8s&t=157s
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>>121800857
>>121800914
blast deicide immediately my nigga
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>>121800857
It's OK anon, music starts sounding better once you stop caring about what women think of you. It only took around 3 years of me not having sex to finally appreciate the production on Infernal Battles.
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I want Trey and Varg to make an album together. Brian Eno can produce.
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>>121800914
Not me.
>>121800929
I'm listening to picrel and it fucking sucks lmao. Also Deicide suck and Glenn Bentoff is fake and gay and should kill himself already.
>>121800942
I'm a wizard
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Tbqh I'm kinda nuking my ratings.
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>>121800877
Has an unmistakeably based image been posted in this thread yet?
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>>121801000
No futurist image has been posted yet, so no.
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>>121800970
>talking to girl
>wizard status

You're halfway there anon, now you just have to offer her the Forbidden Magical White Powder and she's all yours.
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>Get off my case, Motherfucker
THE SUN BURNS IN THE STRANGER'S EYES
JUST ONE TEAR BEFORE HE DIES
BLACK MASS CAN'T EASE THE PAIN
THERE'S NOTHING HERE, THERE'S NOTHING, NOTHING SANE
I HOPE THIS FUCKIN' WORLD FUCKIN' BURNS AWAY
AND I'D KILL YOU ALL IF I HAD MY WAY
BUT I'LL LIVE FOREVER, QUESTIONS CURSE ME WHY
OH, LORD ABOVE, WHY WON'T YOU LET ME DIE?
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This is, for me, the best release other than the magnificent ''Carelian Satanist Madness’’ of the legendary and controversial finnish Black Metal band Satanic Warmaster.The purest and most honest delivery of old school Black Metal in our decade. Songs like ''Warmaster Returns'' or ''One Shining Star'' are hymns that remind us of the power that this genre has, providing the most nostalgic listeners a door to the past.
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>>121801146
Not metal.
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>>121801146
Satanic Warmaster is so fucking good and has a cool logo I want to patch onto my jacket, but I'm worried people will call me a Nazi.
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What is ritualistic Black metal and how does it differentiate from other Black metal?
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>>121801179
It's for nerds.
>>121801172
Shut the fuck up.
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>>121793805
That album is so under appreciated. Reminds me of The Gallery
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>>121801179
>ritualistic Black metal
No such thing exists, not a real genre.
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>>121800804
A lot of it falls into that category, ya
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>>121801227
>music can only be defined by genres
Retard.
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i miss them so much bros
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>>121801260
Cool cover but is the music actually good?
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>>121801258
Ok so since its your own imaginary description then define the musical traits of a "ritualistic Black metal".
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>>121801272
yes. doom-y blackened death metal. it's relaxing
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>>121801260
one of the best death metal bands ever
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>>121800804
>isn't death thrash just death metal?
correct.
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>>121801287
lots of ambient tracks
lots of bells and chimes
lots of mumbled chanting in latin
close to 0 riffs
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>>121801172
absolute state of bmcels kek
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>mfw going through heccys rym ratings and rating everything the exact opposite to balance out the overall score
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Only black death is real
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>>121801331
2easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXzGg811vag


>>121801386
I'm deweighted anyways from some numale reporting me for rating his new album a low score.
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>>121801386
>mfw giving everythibg hacky rates the same rating because his ratings got deflated by a mod or something
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>>121801434
no one cares bud
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>>121801434
Everyone cares bud.
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>>121801435
yeah if he's really delegated maybe that would be funnier. shitposting misstep I'll take the l.
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>>121801434
if I took ratings seriously, the fact that an artist can do that would be very fucking cringe kek
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>filters /metal/
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>>121790524
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Reminder that early Bathory sounds nothing like Venom.
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>>121801526
Looks like avantasia
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i was thinking the same thing >>121801815.
sounds alot like meshuggah tho. so far pretty solid.
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Mark "The Shark" Shelton
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Timi "Grabber" Hansen
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Timberly "rawrjob" Henson
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https://wakegrind.bandcamp.com/album/thought-form-descent

This album is so full of itself but I love it.
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Spinoza "Curly" Prozak
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>>121801172
>I'm worried people will call me a Nazi
I'd be worried if people didn't call me one.
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>>121802235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oly6ayyckZI
METAL IS SO BACK
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Mark "The Animal" Mendoza
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>>121790524
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Chuck "Suck for a buck" Schuldiner
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Varg "Vhacky Vicky" Vikernes
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>>121802313
The perfect woman.
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>>121801386
whats his rym
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>>121802248
enjoyed this a lot a couple of years ago when it came out, haven't blasted in a while. Gonna revisit today thanks anon
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>>121802512
https://rateyourmusic.com/~ThatWhichIsNot
FYI I have just restructured my ratings, which I'm relatively close to finishing off right now. Although things could still move around a bit, most of it is much more accurate now as I had rampant overating that needed to be fixed.
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>>121802894
rawjob status?
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>>121802923
I'm getting Timberly to put the paw mittens on rn (right now)
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I'M AT HOME IN THE NORTHHHHH
I'M AT HOME IN THE NORTHERN
COLD
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ARGHgoyslent - Incorrigible Faggotry
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>>121803084
good post
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>>121803115
Thanks, dickhead.
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>>121803084
Correct.
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I love pussy and death metal

https://youtube.com/shorts/E_YfLsVNjys?si=49tn5tcwUrYSl5yb

like if u agree
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>>121803264
I'm more of a black metal and bussy type of guy.
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>>121803285
>black metal enjoyer prefers a boy's puffy butthole
checks out
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I like death metal in my black metal. I guess you could say I'm a maverick.
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I like metal. I guess you could say I'm a permavirgin.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFGG_-3RLgA
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I hate metal. I guess you could say I'm a sexhaver.
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What are some /meta/-approved prog rock bands? Camel, for example.
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>>121803578
Univers Zero

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE9EOogwq-g
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>>121803578
None that shit's gay
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>None that shit's gay
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>>121803578
i think most people here like Virus
https://youtu.be/YTO14teMVZ0?si=d9oZjz30i_3X3lua
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>>121803601
Correct.
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>>121803825
Why would Graveland be banned?
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>>121792448
Correct.
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good night
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>>121803858
incorrect
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>>121803833
they fear getting rightfully heemed
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i wear my arghoslent hoodie to every venue and i make no exceptions to this
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its so over

https://voca.ro/1huWWiuulr9b
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>>121803601
Correct.
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>>121803825
I saw this sign outside walmart
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>>121794494
Then you know many posers who are never going to make it.
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>>121804078
black metal is hipster trash, leave the hall.
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>>121804104
Correct.
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>>121804104
Dismissing any artform as (Social group I dislike)-trash is the surest way to never grow as a musician, or as a man. If your friends have dismissed an entire genre that spans 4 decades and includes hundreds of talented artists, then they are closeminded fools, and poor musicians by default.

posers.

See yourself out, young man, report to detention hall.
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>>121804268
ok so name your top 5 polka tracks
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>>121804268
>black metal
>hundreds of talented artists
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>>121804268
based hyperpop enjoyer
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>>121803833
They fear his army of Tubgirls.
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>>121804294
https://youtu.be/QIAXa6CirM0?si=mny-pub7wAi465nB
https://youtu.be/F8bAIXm5VbI?si=d5rdNIH8cGhqW-96
https://youtu.be/-fgso7M9azY?si=kE6KS4rcCWBIo-uE
https://youtu.be/9KZi9EtZHZM?si=LUJseQIGX8sy66FK
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I'm tired of pretending eyehategod isn't just emo music
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>>121804734
thats only 4 doebeit
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argh fuck kill
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>>121804791
Wierd Al counts as 2, because he's twice the musician of the others.
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>>121804802
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>>121804866
It'll never happen. Feelsbadman. Might as well kms now.
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>>121804879
same
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>>121804802
>>121804866
>>121804879
>>121804899
Not metal
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>>121804918
You're not metal, you fucking guy.
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>>121796045
Are you talking actual speed metal? Or do you mean thrash metal? What are some "revival" bands? I like that old school speed metal sound because of the production, modern stuff is too clean/polished/artificial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1_1s9tDLNc
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Is there a better live performance?
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>>121805178
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>>121805216
Fuck off lmao. Who takes these clowns seriously? They suck so hard.
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YOUR ONTARIO TOWN
IS A BURIAL GROUND
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>>121805122

Do you own these records or just listen them on YouTube etc. computer links?
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>>121805568
Downloads and YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXWHytDupmQ
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I WANT SHARON DEN ADEL TO CRUSH MY SKULL BETWEEN HER THICK MOMMY THIGHS PLEASE GOD GRANT ME THIS ONE WISH BEFORE I DIE
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>>121803825
>Hate Forest
>banned
Putinist venue
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>>121805272
bait needs to be believable
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The bridge of "By the Time You Read This I Will Already Be Dead" by WoY makes me lose my shit.
>>121805934
What's not believable about that you stupid fuck?
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How do you justify supporting problematic artists, anon?
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>>121806044
Free speech. That being said there are levels to it and most nsbm isn’t good. It’s probably good if you enjoy holding hands with a bunch of gremlin looking Europeans while you suck off hitlers cock together
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>>121806044
didn't realize I need to
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>>121806044
Steal their music.
>>121806104
Sup dickhead.
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>Can you get here in ten days?
>YES I CAN
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>>121806104
chudcels BTFO
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>most nsbm isn’t good
You know it is a cope when you see someone posting this nonsense. Kek.
MOST music isn't good, NSBM isn't magically worse than the rest, In fact a strong ideology(no matter which) will often make the music better, which it does. Not in the case of RABM as it's just a reaction to NSBM, there is no ideology in it.
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>>121806246
Correct.
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Trad Doom is right.
Pathetic chudcels might cry in anger, but it's true.
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>>121806246
100% true.
antifacucks on suicide watch
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>>121806312
N
>>121806312
E
>>121806312
W

>>121806312
NEW
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>>121806318
Cool edit.
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>>121802894
how did you make it so all recommendations you get are classical music?
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>>121807654
>>121808464



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