Islands editionWhat is Progressive Rock?>https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#definitionGood albums to start with?>https://www.musicgenretree.org/essential_prog.pngObscure prog gems>https://rateyourmusic.com/list/antonbildern/a-secret-society-obscure-progressive-rock-albums/Last thread >>122424442
>hit the bump limitWOO!
I like ITCOCK, especially because the acronym has COCK in it, but I can't into Starless and Bible Black
>a flower lady's daughter
>>122504694for me fracture alone beats all of the cock album put together
>>122504694not everyone gets to click with SABB but if it ever happens it's one of the best clicks youll ever have
ween is prog :D
Well, I woke up this morning in a cloud of despairI ran my hand across my headPulled out a pile of worried hairI went to my physician who was buried in his thoughtsHe said, "Son, you've been reading Too much Elephant Talk"Chit chatHe said, "The thing about depression isWell you just can't let it get you downYou have to see the world for what it isA circus full of freaks and clownsAnd you'll never please everybodyIt's a well-established fact"He said, "I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac"
>Is that what you want?https://youtu.be/wtfjzmYZvTw?si=_fl8whFGKQUet-wz
>>122505786Your pic doesn't go with the song, the song clearly states she has a heart of stone and when he tries to touch she recoils
>>122505798Yes however one day he may feel her cold embrace and kiss her interface so its not entirely unfitting.
>watch xanadu because i got into elo>heard it was one of the worst movies ever made>watch it>it's great funCritics are retarded
>>122505778TCoL title track is the best King Crimson track
>>122505664do you like or dislike the improvs? the written tracks are simply perfect don't tell me you dislike The Night Watch
>>122505778WHAT CAN YOU GIVE A MANWHO HAS EVERYTHINGCAN YOU GIVE HIM BACK HIS EDGECAN YOU MAKE HIM WANNA SING
Good point. However, Wetton Cat Foodhttps://youtu.be/TiMXYeI_9WE?si=9GL0EZ31lfmVzUdV
>>122505849I have a soft spot for the title track because my dad has his car radio 24/7 on a station that plays old radio shit.
>>122505699Preen is wog:(
>>122508287NOOOOO YOU CAN ONLY TAKE FROM HIMAND THERE'S NOTHING HE CAN DO
Barbershop song lol
>>122506360I liked the 50th anniversary version of TCoL better than the og album version. The heavier bass makes it for mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC5smSlSum4anyway, should I give kraut rock a chance, /prog/?
>>122510618the best version is on Eyes Wide Open 2003 (Live in Japan)https://youtu.be/nVtv-aouODE?si=_6_p_cPJ44GIhP-J
>>122510618>anyway, should I give kraut rock a chance, /prog/?You definitely should. I would reccommend:Future Days, Tago Mago & Ege Bamyasi by CanEverything by Neu (also their offspring La Dusseldorf)Faust I & IV
>>122504651/prog/ what's your favorite less talked about drummer. For me it's Guy Evans, and Oscar Moro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my8T7hB992k
Holy shit
>>122504651>They all block your pathWhat do you do?
>>122504694I don't feel anything when listening to SABB, but I love the Night Watch live album. Makes me think it should have been merged with Larks.
Moonchild is the greatest song ever recorded
>>122514787Entangled and Ripples are two of my favorite songs ever. It's an excellent album.
>>122514787The last good thing they did
It rivals Absent Lovers
>>122517347it would be at least as good as absent lovers if it weren't for b'boom and thrak ruining it (twice even)
>>122510618>anyway, should I give kraut rock a chance, /prog/?There are a lot of other albums but these are pretty good to start with when it comes to all the different krautrock sub-genres.
>>122517347>*beep beep* outta da way lol!
>>122517342>I can feel me punching in your face tonight>Oh laaaaawd
>>122517347I just don't like THRAK era very much and the live versions didn't salvage it for me.
>>122517538THRAK is a plen filter
>>122517550more like pleb filler
>tfw b'boom segues into THRAK
>>122517420NEU! 1, 2, & 75 are all masterpieces, also Hosianna Mantra should be on the chart, it's Popol Vuh's best.
got me nice hot soupgot me larks goinnice evenin for it :)
>>122505664i like the whole album, it's one of my favorites actuallythe only thing preventing the album from being maybe the best album of the 70's was the retarded decision of leaving "the mincer" like that
>>122518373you can't deny it was the best part of the song. of course it would've been better to have the whole thing on, but it makes perfect sense to the theme of the album including the part they did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92ldx4Ze8RAwhy didn't they do more of this?
The problem with King Crimson is that they always try to walk it in
I'm joining your guys' general. It's the least autistically ragey one, but still autistic in just the good way.Which gentle giant album should I start with
remember to ignore the frusciante faggot if you care about this general
probably tomorrow I will listen to gentle giant -- octopus and also starless and bible black cus that anon sold it hard with his sales pitch on the hard clicking theory
>>122519285I only like The Power and The Glory and Free Hand
>>122519285Octopus and Free Hand are probably the easiest to get into if you're too weak to just listen in release order
>>122498449Their spinoffs (Art Bears, News from Babel), some stuff they recorded with Slapp Happy, other RIO bands e.g. Univers Zero & Art Zoyd. You might also want to check some free jazz for more free form improvisation, although Henry Cow really sounds more like modern classical. So also check Cage, Stravinsky, Schoenberg, Bartok et al.
anons what's some more stuff like angel egg and early gonglight hearted but not so much that it floats away
>>122519431>angel eggTry Vampire Hunter D next but they both suck shit
Was playing the Red album on bassIt just went so right tonight brosfeels good to be in the zonei love prog :D
>>122519727kc is great for learning improv. i got really good at guitar just playing over itcotck for weeks
>>122519738I need to properly learn the bass and guitar parts for fracture but it's a blast thundering away on wettons partsi play along to a lot of UK too but it's mostly just me noodling lots of chromatic "jazz" sounding crap pretending to be holdsworth
>>122519738I think discipline might be one of the best albums for practicing guitar, odd meters, fast picking, coordination etc. the title track is usually part of my routine/warmup
>>122506360https://youtu.be/B9-tJp6X7NI
>>122519770https://youtu.be/4aWVC06cknY
Welcome back my friends, to the show that never ends.
could anyone share some prog wallpapers? :)>>122517342let's skip the (you)'s boy, i'll make some tea.
Hello
Bump for the greatest guitarist of all time and /prog/ connoisseur
>>122519374
John Frusciante can easily learn /prog/ songs in less than 24 hours. One of the many reasons he is the greatest guitarist of all time, objectively.>Could you tell us a random good memory you have working with John? >Dave Lee: "I'm glad you asked, Ivan. There's a story I remembered the other day. I've told Pedro I was going send it to him, so here it is. I grew up in the late 70's and was a huge fan of the band "Yes". At some point I came to know John was a fan as well. We discussed Yes occasionally, and while on a trip to Japan, John and I had discussed their album "Close to the Edge" and I had said how that album really meant a lot to me growing up. Particularly the song "Siberian Khatru". >Upon arrival in Tokyo, we had a day off to recover from jet lag. The next day at the venue, when the band showed up, I was notified that John was looking for me. My first thought was "Uh-oh. What did I do this time?" Well, he found me, and said he wanted me to follow him to the dressing room because he wanted to show me something. >He sits me down next to the little CD player in the dressing room and plugs his red Jaguar into the practice amp. He then takes out Yes' "Close to the Edge" CD and puts it in. Next he cue's up Siberian Khatru, and proceeds to play along note for note EXACTLY to the song. I mean exactly. Every single part of the 9 minute long epic. And if there was a part with no guitar, he'd play the keyboard parts on his guitar. He just sat there on the floor ripping perfectly through this very intricate song with a huge smile on his face. He even played the guitar fade out solo ending, all the way till it fades completely out. >And then I realized he wasn't smiling because he was "proud" or "showing off". He was smiling because he knew how much it meant to me. It was like a personal little gift, that he'd spent his whole day off preparing. And it did mean alot to me. ...still does." >Question by: - Ivan Roccon - Glasgow - Scotland
>>122522229Cool, post John playing prog or quit shilling.
>>122522359He played prog with TMV
>>122521719>>/wg/8018771
>>122512251Vamooo', Moro mentioned.I like Barriemore Barlow, from Jethro Tull. Not the most outstanding drummer, but he sure could keep up with the rest of the band.
>>122522229>he is the greatest guitarist of all time, objectively.Not really, no
>>122523176there's no working /wg/ archive BRO
>>122523573go fuck yourself little faggot
>>122519374wise words
>>122522229>BRO WHAT IF POP MUSIC HAD MORE 7THS LMAO
>>122523665take your lil melty elsewhere spacka
>>122524048>pommy tard thinks he’s aryan
>>122523573FUCKThere IS a prog wallpaper thead over there though
>>122524183you're so true and valid for that>it's the same threadlol im rarted, i saw the year 23 and assumed it was kill. thanks.
>>122519285Acquiring the Taste
Bump di dum di dum
Posting an obscure gem
>>122526883Nice, have you heard about this one too?
>>122524048a chinless suicidal manlet? that's about the most degenerate thing imaginable kek
>>122526883>>122526979Pfffttt, get on my level guys
Larks is the most overrated KC album.
>>122527177I've tried playing it many times and I am consistently left underwhelmed by it, which makes me sad because I really wanted to enjoy that album
what are some albums like frances the mute, doppelgänger, pink lemonade?
>>122527177The live versions are better
>>122527177Filtered.
What is everyone listening to right now? I'm listening to pic rel.
>>122527177The opener is nonsense.Some good tracks on there though.
>>122527177actually that's red
>>122528664Bait used to be funny
>>122528166Just listened to free hand for the first time. Just the same might be one of my favorite gentle giant songs now
>>122528824ok mr smarty pants what's the most overrated king crimson album then
>>122528865In the court of the crimson king
>>122528865Unironically ITCOTCK, it is a very important album for the band and there's still a lot to like about it, but it is also disproportionately more famous than anything else in their discography and that's a shame considering it is King Crimson at their earliest and most primitive stage. ITCOTCK being the only well-known KC album is a crime, I cannot imagine Piper at the Gates of Dawn or From Genesis to Revelation or the Yes debut being the only famous albums of their respective bands but King Crimson has to carry that burden forever partly because of Kanye West and a shitty anime I guess.
>>122528951>King Crimson at their earliest and most primitive stageit gets earlier and more primitive than that, check picrel>comparing court of the crimson king to piper, yes, fg2ryou're literally nuts, you're a schizo if you think any of those are fair comparisons. ITCOTCK is like if genesis released Lamb in 1969, or if Yes released Ctte in 1969. No shit people talk about it
>>122528865>>122527177
>>122528998>ITCOTCK is like if genesis released Lamb in 1969, or if Yes released Ctte in 1969Fair point, I can't deny there was nothing like it at the time. But at the same time though, appreciating music as a listener isn't museology, being the pioneer of a genre might be a cool historical trivia but it doesn't actually mean your very first effort deserves to be disproportionately more recognizable than everything else you did, hence the comparisons with the other bands: it still sucks that this is the one KC album everyone knows rather than something like Larks, Red, or Discipline.
>>122528951ITCOTCK is their most "composed" album and feels more like a cohesive/conceptual song cycle of any of the others which were usually more loose and exploratory. It's easy to see it as a monolith when they designed it that way.
>>122529118>ITCOTCK is their most "composed" album and feels more like a cohesive/conceptual song cycle of any of the others which were usually more loose and exploratoryI'd say Lizard and Islands also feel very conceptually tight at the very least.
do any of you think that you like prog but only listen to 5 bands within the genre?
>>122529153That was me before getting into prog metal, now I listen to 7 or 8 bands in the genre instead
>>122529142Islands maybe, but Lizard? It's the classic "sidelong epic vs. a few random shorts" formula. It's fine but definitely feels scattered. Fripp and Sinfield just wanted to rush an album out because they didn't have a stable lineup to play shows.
>>122529167I think that's just true of every genre. You can cast a wide net but at the end of the day there are only ever going to be a handful of bands that you really connect with.
>>122523570Yes, really yes>>122524036You are ignorant to Frusciante's greatness.
Fine, I'll bite: where should I start with Frusciante? Please convince me Frusciantefag
>>122528951>because of Kanye West and a shitty anime I guessthats fucking bullshit and I'm a JoJofag that came to know prog rock from the le wacky chinese comic with faggy poses - In The Court is their most famous album because it already was back then, these guys almost mogged the Rolling Stones in that free park concert where they "debuted". There was nothing else like that (and imho, there still isn't) and that lineup was nothing short of perfect (technicality wise, after watching the KC documentary and reading some interviews I'm starting to think that half of them were somewhat mentally ill, specially Fripp) and the closest thing to even match ITCOTCK energy was Red, but unfortunately Red didn't do that well until way much later.
>>122529468Red might be their most energetic album since ITCOTCK, but I don't think that makes it the best. Again, I'm not disputing that ITCOTCK is a massive landmark milestone in prog, but after so many decades, it feels like it should no longer just be the one King Crimson album that everyone recognizes.
>>122529463The Empyrean
Is Frusciantefag just a troll? Does he actually earnestly thing Frusciante is on par with the greats of prog? I mean, not even talking in terms of chops or anything, just generally as an artist?
>>122529578>earnestly thing* earnestly think, fuck
>>122529374Go back
>>122528166Retrospektïw 1-2-3. The rendition of MDK might be their best.
>>122529527my vote is for Discipline to be the next popular/recognizable one
>>122529578hes either autistic or a schizo, anyway the best thing we can do is to ignore him and let him dream about taking Frusciante's cum like he said in the other thread
>>122530048>taking Frusciante's cum like he said in the other threadNot once did I ever say that. Keep making shit up if that makes you happy.
>>122529607Go back where?>>122529578John is on par with the greats of prog. He surpasses them, actually. Especially as an artist.
>>122530095Go back
>>122530048>hes either autistic or a schizowhy not both?
>>122529648Was it autism?
>>122530146No
>>122530180probably nazism but then again what's the difference these days
>>122530180reminder that magma's logo is literally based on the tribal bracelets of john coltrane's ancestors
>>122528998Who are they quoting?
>>122529167i actually came to like even less bands than before when i gave the genre another listen just recently but the ones that earned a place in my heart... man, they just hit different now, specially King Crimson. when i was a teenager i could only "get" their first album and only some songs from the others but after finding out the official and unofficial live recordings and that the spirit and strenght of the band was always more in playing in front of an audience instead of being in a studio i feel like ive found gold in music form
>>122530269both of those replies were for the same post
>>122530197Go back
>>122530070You were shamelessly replying to yourself but even if that wasnt the case do you think that posting autistically about another man makes you less any less gay?
>>122530309No
>>122530328>You were shamelessly replying to yourself No I didn't. I literally said that I didn't make that post but you choose to ignore that and make shit up. Fuck off.
>>122529153I sometimes feel too lazy to dive into less known prog albums because I know I won't "get it" the first time.
>>122530334Go back
>>122530264on top of that there's a town in that area of Africa called kobaia
>>122530350No.
>>122530264>>122530353
>>122530264what the fuck does this have to do with coltrane
>>122530358Go back
>>122530438No
>>122529153i dont have autism so no
Wow he's LITERALLY me
>>122530441Go back
>>122530636No
>>122530651Go back
>>122531037No
>>122531066Go back
>>122529153Prog bands I've listened at least most of their discography>Pink Floyd>Yes>Genesis>Rush>King Crimson>Porcupine Tree and SW's solo stuff>Allan HoldsworthProg bands I've listened at least 2 of their albums>Gentle Giant>ELP>Mars Volta>Dream TheaterHonestly you dont need to listen that many prog bands to get involved in this thread
>>122531682listen to the moody blues, soft machine and traffic. also mars volta's 3rd album if you haven't yet
>>122528166I'm just playing Model Man from picrel over and over again.>>122530405Either way, it's sick if this sculpture is actually where it comes from. I always thought that the negative space was supposed to be a spaceship, but this is a lot more interesting.
>>122529751That shitty anime's shitty manga named an ability after Matte Kudasai recently, so you might get your wish if that ever gets animated. Kind of a monkeys paw since the youtube comments under every Discipline song will be forever fucked by dead-horse memes like ITCOTCK.
>Easy Money>Easy Money (Live At The Concertgebouw, Amsterdam, November 23rd 1973)
>>122532191>Easy Money (Live At The Concertgebouw, Amsterdam, November 23rd 1973)>Easy Money (Live At Central Park, New York City, July 1st 1974)
blastan
>>122532145Don't worry, nobody gives a fuck about part 9Also>caring about youtube comments
>>122532325Not much I can say, reading comments on albums I like is a guilty pleasure of mine. A lot less entertaining when all the actual music discussion is buried under the same joke repeated over and over again.
>>122532191Wetton's bass sound on that album makes me cum every time I heard it. Bass guitar really peaked in November 1973.
>>122532769that one made me kek
>>122504651https://sentientruin.bandcamp.com/album/no-na-krayu-svetaSome anon asked in the last thread for some experimental noisy prog with extreme metal tendencies. This band is absolutely insane. I'm brought to mind of the most dissonant of Crimson improvs with kaleidescopic colours of Amon Duul II, Ved Buens Ende, & even Miles Davis at his most experimental. Lots of creepy samples and distorted noisy vocals. Really like nothing else I've ever heard before though
>>122528226Larks I & II are literally their best tracks
>>122529463Amputechture
https://youtu.be/wP3wtV_1v-I?t=1613post your favorite prog build ups
>>122531682Listen to Van der Graaf
what the fuck do the lyrics of Lemmings mean
>the normalfag knows about king crimson from jojo>the chad knows about king crimson from Starless Nymphomaniacs Paradise and Bible Black
>>122528951>not calling it ITCOCKcoward
>>122531643No
>>122532797What happened to his right eye?
>>122534929I know them from hearing 21st century schizoid man in guitar hero 5
>>122527177no, it is their best, it's not easy for everyone to get in to, but when it clicks for you you'll see why it's so loved, also it's not necessary, but it's best on high quality speakers or headphones, it makes a noticeable difference.
>>122532071>I'm just playing Model Man from picrel over and over again.same, great song, wish the rest of the album was as good.
>>122536058ok
what the fuKc is wrong with him
>>122537897Not enough vroom :(
>>122536058Go back
>>122537897he's just too based
>>122537897post Fripp
>>122538189
Post-Fripp
fripp is no longer prog but post-music itself
what do we think about this? is it gonna suKc?
fripp-hop
>>122538443My question is: are they finally gonna play Model Man?
>>122538475they surely must, it's robbery if they don't. My question is if they're gonna play two hands or requiem? (they won't) or Sheltering Sky (still might be up in the air)
>>122538255lights pipe and tips fedora
>>122527177In general, ITCOTKC is the most overrated. Not because it isn't great, but because it's not even top 3 KC.On /prog/, SABB is the most overrated by far.
/prog/ threads are so repetitiveit's 90% KC posts going over the same stuff again and againthen there's frusciantefag and some idiots who keep giving him attentioncan't we talk about other stuff?
Larks' > SABB > Red > Islands = ITCOTCK = Discipline > Lizard > TOAPP = ITWOP = THRAK = TPTB >>>>>>> TCOL
>>122540077>it's 90% KC posts going over the same stuff again and againthat's a good thing, in fact we should change it from /prog/ general to /crimson/ general
>>122540077>can't we talk about other stuff? post the other stuff
>>122540245I'm shy teehee
>>122540351you weren't shy to whine post something bro
>>122540400ok I will
have you guys heard this one?
favorite third world prog?mine is pic related
>>122528998>Giles greater than Giles greater than Fripp
this is their best
have you niggers heard of Van der Graaf Generator? they're pretty obscure, i think i'm the only person that knows about them.
>>122504651yall like 3 (three)?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJZYCSEs2g8
>>122540080>Beat so bad it's not even in the list
>>122540659lol lmao
>>122540080What did Belew ever do to you?
>>122538025No
>>122542080Go back
>>122541706you're right, it's Merci
>>122542211No
>More fool me is the best song on Selling England
Fripp is the Frippest Fripp
Moonchild lol
>>122540080>In terms of the quality of the songs:Larks'>Red>Islands=Discipline>SABB>ITCOTCK>Lizard>TOAPP>Beat=Thrak>TPTB>ITWOP>TCOL>In terms of the quality of the recordings: SABB>ITWOP=Lizard>Red>Discipline=ITCOTCK>Thrak>Beat>islands>TPTB>TOAPP>TCOL
>>122542742why isn't Larks on the second list?
Beat > TCOL > TOAPP > TPTB > Discipline > THRAK > SABB > Larks' > ITWOP > Lizard > Islands > ITCOTCK >>>>>> Red
Beat > all
>>122542770>>122542772Beat is literally their worst 80's album, if not their worst album all together, Three Of A Perfect Pair and Discipline are pretty similar but much much better, why anyone would choose Beat over the other two is beyond me
>>122541034neal and jack and me is a great song
Requiem is the worst song they ever did.
>>122542790beat doesn't have a bunch of failed experiments littered throughout
>>122539812>SABB is the most overrated by farlmao, just because you are getting filtered doesnt mean the others are exagerating Just think about this, if they recorded Dr. Diamond and put it in the album instead of "The Mincer" they would've had the best album of the 70's and arguably of all time.So even when they sadly didnt do that, SABB still contends with the best KC albums and that alone says a lot
SABB's biggest achievement is bringing their live energy into the studio tracks (The Great Deceiver, Lament, The Night Watch).It just feels redundant in a time when you can listen to as much live Larkscrim as you want.
>>122504694I know, I know>health food faggotBut The Great Deceiver is one of my absolute favorite King Crimson songs. It's such an excellent proof-of-concept of what the band is capable of in their prime without listening to something that's overly longhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5Yvvz8XY0
>>122542751fuck, i forgotwell Larks would be in:TPTB>Larks>TOAPP
>Starless and Bible Black [Atlantic, 1974]>This is as close as this chronically interesting group has ever come to a good album, or maybe it's as close as Robert Fripp has ever come to dominating this chronically interesting group. As usual, things improve markedly when nobody's singing. The lyrics are relatively sharp, but there must be better ways of proving you're not a wimp than casting invective at a "health-food faggot." Unless you are a wimp, that is. B
>>122543387The vocal tracks on SABB are probably Larkscrim's most social gathering-friendly songs because they're short and straightforward.
>>122543598i always thought Larks sounded better than Red, Red sounds kind of muddy to me, maybe it's just my copy.
>>122543651>chronically interestingThat's one way of putting it I guess
>>122543651this faggot makes Scaruffi look like a good critic
>>122542751Magma better
>>122545103i like both
>>122540569Huh?
good prog album to smoke meth to?
beat revisionists are based also phil > peter
>>122544020The problem with Larks' is that it sounds like their energy went somewhere else when they recorded the tracks. The only song from that album that mantains the intensity they had live was Larks 1 the rest you can have 5 times better versions on the many live recordings from their 1973 tour
>>122517347I'm sorry but I refuse to listen to an album with a title this stupid
>>122546928no one?
>>122546928ConstruKction of Light?
>>122546987haha VROOOM VROOOM *BEEP BEEP* outta the way hater
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwGia4FnhTkI BETCHA THOUGHTWE COULDN'T DO IT
>>122519285the friggin first album is very good
>>122505786It just came to me, is ELO an influence of Muse?
>>122550962i honestly hear them more in van der graff generatorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aevvtpRej5M
>>122504659GET JIGGY WITH IT
THERE MUST BE SOME THERE MUST BE SOME THEREMUSTBESOMETHEREMUSTBESOMETHEREMISTHEJRKNGKJWBWKLENVEENAFSKBKW FBGGH583IUVRNIYBRIBUTYVI3VT
Is it really that bad, /prog/?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Y6-rNECrs
>>122552883What do you mean
>>122552883I dislike it!
Is this going to become a trend of Frippy blessing the plebs with more live goodness?
>>122553226does this have the Eddie over dubs or David Cross original violin parts?
>>122553480I think it's the one that is more faithful to the unedited live recording I hope Fripp lets his people add some of the collectors club releases but that might be too much to ask
>>122553480>2005 mix of original multi-track tapes by Ronan Chris Murphy at DGM. Released as download from dgmlive.com in 2005 and on CD as disc two of The Collectable King Crimson Vol. 1 in 2006. This edition is now the full Asbury Park concert, without overdubs, and in the proper running order. Includes all tracks, with the uncut versions of "Asbury Park" and "Easy Money"; "21st Century Schizoid Man" is moved to be the last track and is now the version from Asbury Park rather than Providence, Rhode Island. Does not include Eddie Jobson's overdubs.>2013 mix by original multi-track tapes by Robert Fripp, Tony Arnold and David Singleton at the Courthouse, Cranborne, Dorset. Same track order and versions as release #3. Splits improv at end of track 6 into its own track. This mix is available on The Road to Red and the 40th Anniversary edition of USA.
today I shall play flight sims and listen to power to believe
Honest thoughts?
Have you shocked the monkey today /prog/?
>>122557005It's okay. There are a lot of good songs on it but the production doesn't suit it at all, nor are the strengths of the band emphasized at all. Not the worst debut album by a prog band though
>>122557404POATAN!
is this Proto-Prog?
>>122558938it's proto-shit (idk i've never listened to bob dylan)
>>122558975pre-filtered
>>122518933
>>122519500Ok pleb
When did you realize pic related was the best prog album since Red?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT0nSp8lUws
>>122559995it is good but the production on the studio album sucks. Live at KEXP on youtube is much better. comparing it to Red is cope though
>>122551574It's an amazing live album. Dance on a Volcano goes hard.
Adulthood is realizing Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford were more responsible for the change of Genesis' sound in 80s than Phil Collins was.At least that's what I think mostly because at that time Collins preferred to write songs more for his solo albums, leaving most of the 80s Genesis songs written by the rest of the band but due to solidarity, Collins still got the songwriting credit.
>>122551574https://youtu.be/YsV-1FDLTW0?si=sSgMZHvlWWlpD0GDthis song is also included in the international edition so I want to chirp in a bit.Love this song so much, the first time I knew about this song, it was included in the cassette version of their 1983 self-titled album I found in my country. And then I found the track doesn't belong in that album, and so are Me and Virgil and Who Dunnit (which was also erroneously written as Lurker(?)). Then I also found out the reason why my cassette had this weird ass tracklisting because back in 80s, there was no official distributor in my country and I don't think there was a music copyright law as well, so people could just pirate stuff from abroad and repackage it here by adding some random tracks like my example above.
>>122559995>the best prog album since RedHuh, but you didn't post picrel?
>>122559995While I will admit black midi has some good songs. This whole liberal arts students trying to be quirky stuff gets on my nerves.
>>122560290>In the Cage/Afterglow medley
>>122553226It's been a long time since all that stuff came to Spotify, so I doubt we're getting more. However I recommend the two Great Deceiver albums on Spotify if you want to listen to Wetton-Era live Krim. Also, any King Crimson live recording that exists is already available for download on the DGM site. Some cost money but if you make a new account you get a free download. Lots of cool stuff on there.
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>>122565854* Starlite, just Googled and found out, fuck
>>122559995Black Midi haven't been good since Matt left.>inb4 "but he did some writing on Cavalcade"Not enough unfortunately. They needed the post-punk/no-wave influence to balance out Geordie's sporkcore wankery.
>>122559995>Best prog album since Redactually laughable takealso the best prog album since Red was Exposure
>>122562202>This whole liberal arts students trying to be quirky stuff gets on my nervesIf the band members were 10-20 years older than they are but their sound and visuals were otherwise identical then I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be bitching about it, this is just your old man syndrome anon
>>122565956>also the best prog album since Red was ExposureNow *that* is an actually laughable take
>>122557005Imagine a timeline where they chose school over music and never kept the band going after recording this album. I could see it becoming a minor "rediscovered cult classic" from the era.
Holy FUCK, this album sounds so GOOD, it might not be the peak of Pink Floyd music-wise but the production is just phenomenal. What are some other prog albums that just sound absolutely immaculate to you, anons?
>>122560123>>122565956Cavalcade is nowhere near Red but comparing BM to KC isn't that unreasonable. Reportedly the founder of Rough Trade told the band that they reminded him of the experience of seeing the original King Crimson lineup in 1969.
>>122514787>>122515865My boys.
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>>122566030This album is okay but yea the production is good
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is this proghttps://youtu.be/9JPzyjMQ-rI?si=FKEE_rFOEbi57lkV
>>122566030the sound here is great, some of the songwriting here was pretty mediocre but got elevated because the usage of a more atmospheric sound like Keep Talking, What Do You Want From Me.
>>122540077What prog metal do you listen to?
I've always liked this song, but I don't think I fully appreciated how hard it goeshttps://youtu.be/IYORG0MDdbo?si=hOb3YsICFiZJsg1E
>>122566030i'm a sucker for good drum sounds, and THRAK and Selling England always had nice sounding kits to me
can we talk about King Crimson for once?
>>122570056it's actually Krautrock
what's you're unpopular PROG opinion? mine is that Yes are shirt, xolmplerte farbagfe111
>>122572907this but ironically
>>122572907Pink Floyd are the best Prog band.
>>122540845Yes. The End is Begun is fantastic.
>>122574554I fully unironically agree, they might not have the chops of most other bands that fall into the prog umbrella but their creativity was astonishing and I think they ended up with a phenomenal discography full of sonic variety. There's a reason why almost everything post-prog and third wave is influenced by Pink Floyd in some way, they're just really good.
>>122572907Days of Future Passed is decent at best but has a ton of cheesy/cringey moments, terrible transitions/arrangement, and sounds like a very, very sad excuse for orchestral/classical music.
Old good, new bad?
>>122572907ELP's best album is pictures at an exhibitionRush sucks ballsFragile is better than CTTEAnimals is overrated as fuckTool is a Pearl Jam/Soundgarden sounding band that try to be more clever than they actually are
any other album that ends with at least a solid minute of church bells?
Don't die.
>>122578210We're almost there
>>122566175We should start A Trick of the Tail cult.
>>122578210ON MEDON'T GO AWAAAAAYWHEN I NEEEEED YOU HEREIN MY NEEEEEEED
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>>122578491Fucking Banderas man>Due to Townsend's constant dispute with the studio owner, who kept kicking him out of the studio every afternoon to party with his friends, one of them being then rising movie star Antonio Banderas, Townsend then refused to pay the studio bill, which resulted in him being denied access to the master tape by the studio owner. Frustrated by that, Townsend eventually decided to sneak in the studio with Bergstrand at 3 A.M. to make a copy of the master tape, accidentally leaving out the song Ocean Machines there, thus the song exists only in demo quality.
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