Albums that were or still are incredibly influential any genre This is not a "greatest album" or "greatest band/artist" thread, but a thread about albums that were incredibly influential and whose fingerprints are still found in modern music
>>122566986The Man Machine is more influential.
several Bathory albums
it’s the blueprint for an entire genre and even inspired artists who worked in other genres to change their sound (blackgaze)completely unrelated to pic related but how is it that Eminem, one of the most popular and best selling artists of all time, is practically fading into obscurity? he has no influence.
best album i heard, maybe pass the flask or goodbye to the gallows is close
>>122568474>OP asks for influential albums>five posts in and some retard has already barged in to shill the “best” album of all timefucking illiterate cunt kys
>>122568490you uhh retardo or something? thats what i gave, three of em to be exact and i think until your heart stops to be the best of the 3 mentionedsperg elsewhere boy
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>>122566407How the fuck is this influential when it just sounds like Slayer?
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>>122566407-->> Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath <<--Possessed - Seven ChurchesVenom - Black MetalBathory - BathorySuffocation - Effigy of the ForgottenAlcest - Souvenirs d'un autre monde
>>122568729tard alert!
>>122568797Literally Slayer with some Leprosy in it. Again why the fuck is this "influential?"https://youtu.be/g0IDDGnCzNA?si=c_nH-P_kM9invNLM
>>122568980you're literally a retard with some idiot in it.
>>122568738>Who is the ocean blue>Who is Riverside >Who is the railway children >Who is the chameleons>Who is the wake>Literally all dream pop from 90's and 00'sLmao you zoomies dont know shit
>>122570065all that shit sounds way to 80s, especially with the production on the drums. Beach Fossils influenced the whole indie sound in new york from 2011-2013
Probably not even a top 5 Ye album but without out it the hip-hop and R&B of today would sound dramatically differentIt gave us Cudi and the only good Drake era, and that’s only a fraction of it
>released in 1992>the genre would be nothing without it>progressive metal is still having some of it's best albums released even to this day
>>122568474I haven't really heard anything that sounds like Pass the Flask, even The Bled's later stuff. What artists do you think are influenced by them?
This was everywhere in 2008, and within 2 years hundreds of bands were ripping it off.
>>122568980Every genre draws influence from somewhere else, but they clearly define their own genre with their own sound. It wouldn't have been an influential melodic death metal record if they didn't draw from death metal, which itself drew from thrash metal. It went on to influence many a band and album, that was what I was getting at.
>>122568439I guess him being a white rapper is his biggest influence. One that was taken "seriously" but the greatest irony of all is that he not only has become that which he sought to destroy during his career, a corny, whack, self-parody of a white rapper, but also inspired those very same corny goofballs he distanced himself from during his career like logic, tom macdonald, maybe g eazy.Every time a white rapper is mentioned, vanilla ice is the joke, eminem is the credible one, literally every other white rapper is corny except eminem in his prime, not eminem now. No one wants to say it directly, but yes, rap and hip hop are mostly a very black genre, so there is this huge thing about a "white" rapper, and eminem was the exception to the whole uncool white rapper thing.
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>>122566407Through Silver and Blood was the album that fully kicked of Post metal as a subgenre. There was also Souls at Zero and Godflesh's Pure but Silver was the tipping point
>>122568729are you legitimately retarded? bands have been ripping off specifically slaughter of the soul ever since it came out.
>>122572102 Aren't their first albums more influential?
>>122570065Chameleons are fucking great. But I need to listen to anything but Script of the Bridge
>>122575270You could argue all are in some way imo. I was going to post their first two albums but many could argue they didn’t really create glam rock just popularized it (and perfected it imo), but avalon was the stepping stone for the trajectory of how 80s music was going. It pushed the popularity of sleek adult contemporary vocals and sophisti-pop, a la sade, joe Jackson, blue nile. The genre in turn later transformed into synth-pop through the late 80s and 90s
>>122575270Early albums did inspire lots of new wave/post punk bands tho so yes. Basically they were ahead of the curve with every one of their albums. Avalon was just more mainstream
Probably the only album/band I can think of that spawned an entire genre (that wasn't a shortlived meme microgenre) solely by itself.
>>122568439>>122572064all of Kendrick’s weird voices are straight out of Eminem’s playbook anything vulgar from the early 2000s like South Park, limp bizkit is just no longer acceptable to talk about openly. that’s all it is
>>122576361I can actually see what you're saying, never saw kendricks voices being an extension of eminems whole slim shady, marshall mathers, eminem alter ego thing but it actually makes sense. I wouldn't necessarily consider eminem "influential" though, because although he is a very big name in hip hop, he showed and proved that "white boys" can be taken seriously as rappers, as mcs, can have bars and be respected, musically speaking, his offspring and students are usually white guys with not even a shred of the talent that he had, just cheap derivatives of his worst qualities."look at me, i'm a self aware white guy who can rap fast, but i'm not eminem, i'll just mimic him and say it is inspiration, hyuk, hyuk, hyuk"
>>122575887>Zeuhl>not a meme microgenreLOL
>>122576399most rappers aren’t particularly talented, Eminem is. so you can’t really pretend to be Eminem if you haven’t mastered the craft of rapping. Kendrick is definitely the best out of the people that have been influenced by Eminem, but most of the others are corny or just white boy rappers like you said. big Sean, hopsin, bones, and logic are at least competent rappers. that’s all I can think of right now
>>122576473Hmm, I think i get what you're saying, his influence is subtle, not so much a grand before there was this and after there was this. His more horrorcore and zany stuff, i guess he can be "influential", and i'm not knocking on him for his talent, because he is definitely good at what he does, just that his influence kind of leans into the cornier side of things, mainly the white rappers. It is funny you said logic because that is mainly one of his disciples, the whole "hyuk, hyuk, hurr durr, look at me, i'm a (((WHITE))) rapper who is self aware" shtick.I'd argue that dre was more influential than eminem ever was. Again, not saying that eminem isn't influential at all, but his influence is debatable and i'd agree that he has had some influence on rappers, but if we're talking the overall musical landscape of hip hop, his mark, his direct and impactful influence, i'd argue that dre with the chronic was far more influential in rhymes, sound, and direction towards hip hop than eminem ever was. Eminem definitely had an impact on culture, he is, to some extent, hip hop, but so was dre. Dre signed eminem, so he saw something in him. Em is more of a spectacle, also, sadly, more of a product of his time. Have you seen the shift in quality from eminem in his prime to eminem now? I don't think anyone is picking up the mic and truly inspired by him making a song with rhianna in the 2010s, or seeing him rap about venom from a marvel movie, or him talking about bashing coffee pots over donald trump's head and really using that as a template for what music they should make.
>>122576556eh I think you got it. I think hopsin and logic are both corny but I’m trying to be fair, they can rap. Eminem went soft out of guilt and old age, it’d be worse if he was 50 and still in the same place mentally as far as Dre is concerned the guy is a godfather of west coast hip hop, no questioning that
>>122576460>hundreds of bands with new bands still forming 50 years later>microgenre
>>122576638I'm not saying he couldn't be influential, but from where i stand, my bias, nothing against him because he was something i listened to growing up because i really enjoyed his raw, passionate, just fed up anger that he vented through his music, some of which hasn't aged well like "kim", i just find it kind of hard to see how he "influenced" hip hop, rap, and the overall culture, but you pointed out kendrick, hopsin, logic, and i think that you've made pretty great points, i had never seen how kendrick could have been influenced by em but you changed that. I don't think i can unsee it now, the whole pitch shifting of his alter ego voices, the whole disconnected but off the wall rapping, I can see how em may have had subtle bits here and there influence later rappers, but i guess it is still hard for me to see. Kind of sad to see him lose his spirit, but he couldn't stay the same angry, drug addicted, 28 year old forever.
this album along with everything meshuggah is great proto djent
>>122570850For real. They had already invented the "djent" sound on Nothing, but it felt like this record really cemented it a core element of modern and mainstream metal music
>>122570850>>122577196anyone who thinks meshuggah was influential for modern metal has never heard either meshuggah or modern metal
fucking tards
>>122578503Who the hell doesnt like this album? BLUE. Crystalized WhiteMETHIT'S FREE METHAND YOU HAVENT EVEN CONSIDERED THAT IT WAS METHBECAUSE U WERE STUCK IN THE DUNGEON DRAGON SH1T U NORMAL FAGS ARE DOINGGOD FUCKING DAMN IT
it's hard to pin point the first actual Psychedelic Rock album, but this is probably the most influential album in terms of sound and aesthetic
>>122579639Lol im not gonna jumpunless theres a big hoop
>>122577196>They had already invented the "djent" sound on Nothingthey already had djent on DEI, there's no djent on nothing
>>122567650Venom influenced them and Celtic Frost and Hellhammer as much as Quorthon denied it. Hell Venom influenced a lot of the 2nd wave as well. What would become the "staples" of the genre though were mostly established by Bathory's first 4 then Viking metal is from their 5th.Venom though holds the crown for influencing thrash, death and black metal . People don't like to give them credit because they were shitty musicians.
In the realm of punk and extreme metal sub-genres it would hard to find a band more influential than Discharge. From inspiring the big early Thrash Bands, to changing the face of hardcore punk around the world and to this day spawning copycat bands with Dis- or -charge in their name, with the same art and logo, not to mention the exact same style of music and going so far as to having D-Beat named after them (even though it pre-dated the band) it's clear Discharge is the amongst the most influential bands of all time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRgt-H50Pxk
If only they knew what they were starting...Do you think they at least got any scene pussy as compensation?
>>122588688my nigger
>>122588688>all downhill from herereal emo consists only of etc etcmoss icon was better tho
>>122589138untrue, Rites of Spring & One Last Wish are unparallel in the Rev Summer canon
Still getting ripped off to this day
>>122589161also very truemetalcore shouldve stopped here desu
>>122589138to be fair a lot of the 90s emocore and "skramz" shit was good too
>>122589220love 90s screamo man. the genre was never that good again. ik its having a resurgence right now but the new shit is honestly weak
THE stoner rock album
>>122576662>THERE ARE DOZENS OF US
>>122590164>>122589161I like both of these albums when stoned actually
>>122590664Who are you quoting?
SO many rappers owe their careers to Illmatic
>>122570065>RiversideHow is Polish prog band related to this?
>>122578503Which bands are influenced by CoB besides Kalmah
Pretty much every big alternative rock band was inspired by REM or U2
>>122578028You're a fucking dumbass bro holy shit. Enjoy the Parkway Drive concert absolute faggot
Simply for inspiring phil anselmo
he was more of a singles artist, but this couldn't be his most famous album for no reason
>>122575887>solely by itself.The first Zeuhl composition was Les noces/The Wedding by Stravinsky, premiered in 1923.
