>SZA was on the main (Pyramid) stage and failed to draw a crowd>other acts like Avril Lavigne had absolutely massive crowds despite being put on smaller stages>Shania Twain was on the Pyramid stage earlier that day and played to a gigantic sea of peopleWhy didn't people show up to listen to SZA, /mu/?
literally who
Don't know who that is
>>122584871>>122584872She is an R&B/Hip-hop singer. Some of her songs on spotify have over 1 BILLION streams. She headlined Glastonbury, but hardly anyone showed up.
>>122584722Racism
cant name any of her songs, but she is one of those black people shoved in your face if you are a libtard who listens to npr or something, should have not been a headliner
>>122584722Shoulda got Doja Cat
Never heard of him
>>122585079>him
>>122585120this photo is literally unedited
>>122584722Most of these people I have only heard of because of /mu/
>>122584722people don't want to see the choreography type acts live. they don't want the pop and the rap.
>>122585007More like Doja Rat
>>122584722>astroturfed (((star))) has no authentic audienceShocking. Sabrina Carpenter must be shitting her pants seeing this.
>>122584941I only know one of her songs she did with Travis Scott that I used to listen back when I was a perm-kid
>>122584901that music is not popular live.you can buy your way onto playlists. and you can just buy streams. you get paid if a stream plays and you can pay people (and bots) to play your stream.
>>122585188>Sabrina CarpenterCrazy how popstars are just going full BIMBO right from the get-go now. That was usually reserved for later in your career.
Despite being the most famous female singer in the world today, this is a strange result!
>>122585188>astroturfed (((star))) has no authentic audienceshe might have an authentic audience, but it's not a live audience. People who actually pay money want to see musicians perform music. not the pop, rap, r&b which has dancers and things like that.
>>122585304Taylor Swift is the only famous female singer now. She's alone in her tier, there's an empty tier below her, and then an occupied tier which Sza might occupy or might not, I don't really know or care. A top 40 pop act who is 2 tiers at least below Taylor Swift isn't worth talking about. Or, not here, maybe facebook or some place where really basic people who only know a handful of acts talk about music.
She must have been truly, truly awful for the BBC to have the gall to criticise a female BIPOC.
>>122584871>>122584872>>122585079Wu tang clan memberRzaGzaSza
>>122585348>The Nubian Queen, 34, didn't quite vibe with the overwhelmingly pale, male, and stale audience after a long weekend. However, Tristan, 22, a member of the LGBTQ+ for BIPOC appreciation society was impressed with the performance and hopes that next year, all 3 nights will have diverse headliners.
>>122585281nah she's on the wrong side of 25 and has been putting out music for like 10 years.no one cared about her til she went bbc bimbo but its late in her career by pop whore standards, really a last ditch attempt that worked out
>>122585484I've literally never heard of this slut before two months ago
>noooo stop spouting false narratives
>>122585706>NME
>>122585166God she is ugly, she has a song that samples Angeles by Elliott Smith. She focuses more on suckin’ fuckin’ and twerkin’ then he did I guess
>>122584722The A in SZA stands for Allah, I wish I was joking I’ll never understand how a Muslim woman can go up like that and “sing” about niggerish things without wearing hijab
>>122585778stereotype is a banger
>>122585778wow... how does it compare to Rolling Stone for example? I know RS are giving 5 stars to random pop albums but I wonder about kpop stuff
>>122585888Are you sure it’s not a nation of islam reference? That’s a UFO new age religion
>>122584722expecting a big crowd for sza at glastonbury is like expecting a big crowd for blur at coachella. headline material, just at the wrong fest
>>122585313I went to hellfestMetal bands (even babymetal) still draw HUGE crowds it's crazy. And all these nit so well known metal and hard rock bands still play in front of huge audiencesAnd people told me rock was dead and only pop acts thrive. That's a fake forced narrative
>>122585313another thing besides the genre is that she became famous only last year, headliners usually have years of success with the closest examples being Coldplay or Arctic Monkeys in the 2000s headlining two years after they became famous, but they were massively successful in the UK (and rock bands)
>>122586103that's not where the money is though, SZA's last album has 16 billion streams (500m a month), Babymetal's last album flopped but the ones before have like 200m streams
>>122585313>there is an audience but it isn't liveIt's not even alive.
>>122584722Jesus. There were more people in the crowd when she was a literal who playing some cursed noon slot at her first Coachella, before she even had an album out.
>>122586176jewish faked listener counts
Why is there a big difference between the number of streams on Spotify and the actual popularity?
>>122586276define "actual popularity"
>>122586276Because bots can’t attend concerts.
>>122586276Because she's more famous in USA, and not so much in UKMany such cases. The band Morphine were literal who's in USA, while in my country they were huge and had a massive crowd the last time they performed here before Sandman died
What were they thinking putting her on last? The English middle class who attend this thing would attend any slop the BBC put on for them if it was on the first day of the festival.
>>122586323yougov:US 57% fame 34% popularityUK 30% fame 15% popularityso yeah it's partly that
>>122585778grim
SZA most famosu album SOS is music for lonely, autistic, depressed people. Not normie sheeple that go to Glastonbury to take selfies.People who listen to SZA are in their own homes
>>122586438So is Coldplay but they drew a crowd and were actually quite good. Cope harder, sole SZAutist on /mu/.
Feel bad cos she's unironically better than Dua Lipa and better than Coldplay's recent output (Coldplay's set was banging though)
I really hate the British media's obsession with Glastonbury. The more they cover it the more dickheads turn up the next year and the worse the line-ups get. I also hate the reviews, how can you review a band from what you see on TV? There's a vastly different experience from sitting in your armchair to being in the live audience. Fuck the BBC and the Guardian.
>>122586752very truefull of tarqs as well
>>122586176Streams mean nothing if you can't convert it into tickets and merchandising. Live success is an indicator of your long term potential - any young artist that can pack venues, whether they're 3k halls or 10k arenas, is always going to have a loyal following that can be milked even 20 years later. See The Libertines, Supergrass, Manic Street Preachers, Suede... this woman will be regulated to support slots and 100-capacity tents at random bumfuck festivals in 25 years time, assuming she's still in the industry at allAlso Glastonbury is English middle class territory, very few listen to black artists unless its talented 70s guys like Nile Rogers or big boys like Jay Z
>>122586462Coldplay is a staduim rock band, literally made for a headlining slot.
>>122585178More like Doja Bacteriostat.
>>122586042Nah she’s a Muslim that got bullied into not wearing her hijab after 9/11 lmao She’s like one of those Somali women with her bug eyes, long head and protruding teeth. She truly is an ape
Pop was always a studio first, live performance second genre. Even back in the day nobody ever thought the Supremes or Petula Clark were a better live act than The Who.
>>122586752Yeah it's weird seeing the BBC News front page covered in Glastonbury stories. I know they air it but imagine if they did that shit for Download or Latitude or whatever? Then again the only "news" I heard about it was seeing Mannequin Pussy play another festival this weekend and the singer was complaining the BBC was calling their band "Mannequin P"
you ever heard how Bon Jovi wanted to tour with pop acts like Bryan Adams but their tour manager insisted they tour with metal bands instead because they had a more solid audience?
>>122587814>Pop was always a studio first, live performance second genre. Even back in the day nobody ever thought the Supremes or Petula Clark were a better live act than The Who.lol ok Gramps. back to the rest home with you to banter the Paki nurse about the time you saw the Supremes back in '66.
No shit a fake streaming artist has 0 real audience.A "generational talent" says Pitchfork. Kek!
>>122587814Supremes had regular residencies at clubs. Sure, The Who were wilder and more exciting, but that doesn't mean The Supremes were bad.
>>122584722I never listen to her solo work but whenever she is a feature i usually love her performanceGenuinely brings a tear to my eye how she sings in All The Stars, i fuckin love that song
>>122587932What's the deal with the nigras in school uniforms? They were in that turgid Childish Gambino video too.
>>122587971Probably to symbolize their youth and innocence maybe thats usually why young people wear school uniforms in anything
>>122587821The worst thing is people treat it like it's some magical experience. This just encourages more and more plebs to attend who just want to take selfies at the Pyramid Stage. There are also a lot of people breaking in due to fomo.
>>122585484Naw they boosted the shit out of her advertising and gave her Arianas press tour when Ariana underperformed so bad. Giving Ariana bot streams, releasing like 16 versions of everything, adding her music to bundles attached to other things, putting bundles of her music on sale for like 99 cents etc. They got the streams up but still no one was talking about her or the new music so she quietly backed off and they put Sabrina in, who is the nice white girl version of Ariana anyway. Cute and smol and oversexed
>>122588046Yeah the fomo is out of control. Plus speaking from my own experience of going to non-Glastobury festivals, I imagine the magic ends for most people by day three. When you're tired, hungover, constipated or have diarrhoea, trying to kill time because the only band you want to see is not on for another four hours so you queue up for yet another beer or sit through some set you don't care about.
>>122584941>one of those black people shoved in your facein the USA yes. in the UK she is not really shoved anywhere. just a rando beyonce clone.
>>122585467this year was diverse: friday was whore roasties, saturday was lgbt+, sunday was non-white
>>122585778long march through the institutions
Why is it that American music is so terrible these days?
>>122585778lmao just going all in on getting clicks from teenage rabid fans
>>122588843after effects of the 2008 recession
https://youtu.be/WNLlzbMOMLE
>>122584722I had never heard of her so I was over at West Holts watching Justice. Amazing set but felt like they had compression messing with the sound. The drops never felt like drops and the volume was really quiet.
>>122584722surprised Glastonbury is still going
Thus spoke Zarazua
>>122588843Post good not american music made these days
>>122589033It's the biggest UK festival by far and one of the biggest globally behind Coachella, it won't be going for a while
old lad hereglasto was fucking amazing in the 90s.only normies bought tickets back then, everyone else just walked in for free.almost never went to watch the big bands/stages, spent all my time off my nut in random rave tents and hippy fields.You could literally walk up to anyone there and be instant friends.It was all great until scouse subhumans found their way down and they had to put up a big fence to keep them out.Still I thank God everyday that I was a teenager back then and not current era
>>122586830>Streams mean nothingok boomer>loyal following>See The Libertines, Supergrass, Manic Street Preachers, Suedespotify followers:SZA 21mLibertines 877kManic Street Preachers 688kSupergrass 607kSuede 480kpretty sure this already multi-millionaire woman wouldn't trade places with your forgotten bands
>>122590589All those bands have and will continue to have books written about them (well except perhaps for the Libertines, who were derivative and only had one good album), artistic credibility, regular collab work and streets named after them in their hometowns. They're all millionaires living happy middle class lives with wives and kids, still making royalty £££, selling 50k+ vinyls/albums a year off the back catalogue alone (their fanbase still buys records), plus reissues, plus several million from solid UK/Ire/US tours. Hardly forgotten. There are loads of examples of bigger acts who disappeared completely.What is this American slop generators legacy? Beyond your first £5 million, money doesn't matter so much to the mentally well-adjusted. I can't see her or her peers enjoying life as middle aged OnlyFans models in 15 years time
>>122588172>When you're tired, hungover, constipated or have diarrhoea, trying to kill time because the only band you want to see is not on for another four hours so you queue up for yet another beer or sit through some set you don't care about.Boo hoo cry more you big baby
RadioheadGlastonbury 2003National AnthemStill unbeatenhttps://youtu.be/2po0vONeApg?si=T4bk2Hgdyw27MQTV
>>122590589How do zoomies like you still not understand that bots exist and think their online numbers indicate real popularity? Even 70 years ago payola was (and still is) a thing.
>>122590882It would probably be more telling if you could see streams of SZA from the UK as opposed to worldwide
sza popularity is completely fabricated, just like lizzo. no one actually listens to these people lol
>>122586103Babymetal - that's a bit of the exception that proves the rule - because it's got its choreography. But there is real metal in there. Cute teen girls dancing and real metal.>fake forced narrativeit's Jews lying and Jews bribing others to lie. It's the Shitmerican Way.The term "narrative" is new, invented by Jews to replace "Jew lies"The media, owned by Jews, is not supposed to craft stories, they're supposed to report. That's how it was in real America, Shitmerica has Jew crafted Narratives.Yes, rock and metal are big. It's more exciting music. People will travel long distances to see a lot of it. Jews will pummel people over and over with the top 40 trash (straight white men over 18 have learned to completely ignore all that), spending a lot of money and using scarce resources to get people to know and like the trash they're selling. And it doesn't work. Or, to some extent it does, but their return on investment is small. "Hey fellow fat middle aged Jewess also in charge, why don't we spend $50 Million on making this singer/dancer famous to people who haven't figured out how to ignore us, we can get $25 Million back.""I'll ask the thinner Jew Faggot what he thinks, Ok, he said that that's a loss of $25 Million but that's ok, because we're just employees and we all have great golden parachutes.:The people in charge of the big things in Shitmerica are garbage. They're the ones at fault.
>>122587821for me, it’s Leeds (or Reading if your souf)the carnage at that festival in the pre-smartphone era is some of my favourite teenage memories
Jan Wenner admitted that white rock dudes were the most interesting interview subjects.
>>122586176the money is LIVE.However it's not hard to spend $1 Million to get people to play streams. And you get much of that money back from Spotify.https://spotifypanel.com/1,000,000 Spotify Plays. One Million.$160.00. One Hundred and Sixty Dollars.A shit ton of plays for almost nothing.There are hundreds, maybe thousands of different services who take your money and get you streams.The charts are all fake. If $160 gets you 1 Million.$160,000 gets you 1 Billion.And you get money from Spotify for those streams. Spend $160K, get 1 Billion streams, get some of that money back.That's how the music biz works now.Except that live acts get paid a lot per show, if it's real music played by real musicians, and the band has real fans.
>>122586184>It's not even alive.The bots love it.
>>122586276it's cheap and easy toBUY SPOTIFYPLAYSyou can use google or another search engine to find hundreds of choices to spend $hundreds to get Millions of streams.I put a link in a different post. $160 for a Million.Here's a different link. Always good to see what the prices are - the prices are falling.https://artistpush.me/collections/spotify-promotionhere, more expensive. 1 million spotify plays for $699. 1 million REAL spotify plays + organic listeners. $1,499.
>>122586294>bots can’t attend concertsand people who listen to top 40 pop don't want to attend concerts. (unless Taylor Swift)
>>122590882the only kind of Payola that is good is the Payola that is illegal.Local Bands should be able to give the Local DJ (or MD/PD) money or coke for spins.But that's not ok. Only big companies can arrange elaborate payola schemes so that local bands can't get locally famous.
The actual reason there was hardly anyone there is not because no one knows her or don't like her music, it was more than likely due to the England Vs Slovakia football game taking place at the same time.
>>122585778Formula of Love deserves it.
>>122584722I was at glasto with a bunch of lgbt and they all thought she shouldn't be there and most boycotted out of spite.
>>122590996>telling if you could see streamsyou can buy streams for cheap. Not really telling.A couple weeks back there was a thread about why the black keys and jlo and charli all had problems selling tickets. One of the industry people said something like "we can look at stream counts but we have no clue if those are actual people, actual fans" 1) there's a ton of buying streams, and 2) Shitmerica has a ton of retards who just put on a "basic retard" playlist and have no idea what they're listening to and people who listen to the "basic retard" playlist don't go to shows.Rock bands aren't spending money to create illusory numbers. They have real fans and make real money live.
>>122584901sza had a few viral tiktok songs. not a good foundation for a fanbase.
>>122592340Why? Is she rastafari or hotep or something?
>>122590589Spotify Followers from JapanCan you buy them? Yes you can.If you wanted to buy 21 Million Spotify Followers, how much would it cost?https://artistpush.me/collections/spotify-promotion/spotify-followers100,000 Spotify Followers - $699.1 Million - $7K10 Million $70K20 Million $140K30 Million $210KSo, by spending $210K, you can get more Spotify followers than Sza.
>>122589379The UK has a lot of stuff. For the last 60 years, the UK and the US have made most of the music, especially hits. Ozzy Osborne (UK) is currently #1 on the active rock charts in the US, with Crack Cocaine.
>>122588843Like almost everything if something is terrible, it's because of the Jews.
>>122588283>long march through the institutionsGramsci - Communist"Lets take the music industry jobs and give them to middle aged fat Jew dykes"
>>122585888She used to be so much prettier.
>>122588991Sound issues all over the shop this year. Even the big acts on the Main stage were plagued by it
>>122592249The England match was over way before she came on stage
Fantastic effort thread btw>>122588926Just say Obama
>>122585166Damn what happened to GZA
>>122584722no one knows who she is in this country apart from apparently teenage girls
>>122585393i genuinely waa finkin diss when i heard that sza was headlining kek
>>122585888she was such a qt beforewhy are women so dedicated to making themselves look as bad as possible
>>122592364this but unironically. I personally like some of her songs, but most artists today will have millions, a billion streams. doesn't mean shit when it's all tiktok shit.
>>122584901sounds like fake streams
It's just bad booking. She would've done great on a different slot. Must've gotten that Blackrock money 'innit.
>>122585166Damn!
>>122585888From sugar to shit baka
Why didn't Glastonbury choose Avril Lavigne as the headliner?https://youtu.be/-66fWsPnG_U
Yes, it means rock music is not dead.
>>122587821I am pleased that Mannequin Pussy is making news over there in the UK.pol should be generally enthused about Mannequin Pussy. Fresh Punk Sounds, hard, top reviewed. Pitchfork BNM is what pol was 10-15 years ago, and it's BNM. The newest indie rock that really rocks and is good. Something that you can go see. https://youtu.be/r-YStcxi4kQ?si=2PS9leOGQuoLEalV
>>122587821https://youtu.be/_jD4Z0Ht-KY?si=x154J7hxTUV2lvnVOutback Fest 2022 - Mannequin Pussy
>>122587834but, he's right. Top 40 Pop has always been seen as inferior and inconsequential. For 12 year old girls hearing their very first songs, fat middle aged women and (some) fags.
>>122588071You are talking about a style of music that people don't pay for, don't go to see live.There might be 10 pop tours going on simultanously and 5 are cancelled for underperformance? Not good. Meanwhile there are 10 rock shows a night in every city. MSM - which has no real connection to top 40 pop, they might like it, but they could easily completely ignore it and go back to the model of The Archies - could shine the light on rock acts that are touring, which would cause the number of people at the venue to go up, perhaps seatgeek tix go up in price - all of that helps the band and/or Live Nation. A major label wouldn't spend the money to get a rock band on top 40 pop radio (that often). It costs a lot of money to bribe who you need to bribe to get a top 40 pop hit, and you don't sell records for $10 anymore. Live Nation has a stronger incentive to pay the bribe money. Live Nation probably thinks that Live Nation isn't going to be broken up because they're acting like a monopoly, so they think they probably have a long future booking bands into venues. Spending money on giving hits to bands who love to tour and tour very often is likely to be for the benefit of Live Nation.
>>122589379https://youtu.be/GgyQufB1Yic?si=EfzZ4Sz566vONHaC
>>122585166It’s obvious that she’s super self conscious about how she looks. Weird vibe. I actually like her though. She’s got a phantom on the ghetto/Roy Orbison thing going on. Don’t forget she’s wearing a wig too lol
>>122585888she was pretty, and then paid to hit the wall harder and earlier than normalmany such casessad
she hurtin
>>122592442>believes everything he readsgo back to /pol/ dipshit
>>122592489>Like almost everything if something is terrible, it's because of the Jews.
>>122590882>boomer pretends to understand how streaming workssad
>>122585166thats a shame, she was great as the bald guy in stargate
>>122587825were you a hero in the war gramps?
>>122599555no, but I served in a company of heroes
>>122589379https://youtu.be/Pudux9RKL9I
>>122590589This just proves his point even more. Streams aren't a main factor when it comes to gigs
>>122584901Bots don’t attend festivals. The streaming numbers are a total fabrication.I have never even heard of SZA
>>122584871Bogged female rapper
>>122590589>proves boomer anon pointThanks for your service Capt Zoomer
>>122586830They are more liberal types no? It's the lower classes who dislike BAMEs, vote reform party etc
>>122590589Found her id folks. Tell us about yourself SZA what sort of music do you make?
>>122590838Karna police live was even better imo
>>122591578Lizzo is a nigger bitch singer whose songs contains vocabulary such as fuckin, suckin, twerkin for those who don't know. She quit music recently for *coughs* body shaming and targeted abuse. Good fucking riddance.
>>122591578https://youtu.be/WL2n_8pII9s
>>122592476>Crack Cocaine.sounds a lot like Perry Mason
