How many keys exist?I'm getting mixed answers from 12 to 15 to 24!?
>>12258946272. all twelve notes, plus all twelve notes sharp, plus all twelve notes flat; all major and minor.
>>122590513inb4 someone says that c-sharp and d-flat are the same key. they are the same tone, but not the same key.
>>122589462I’m assuming you mean keys as in song keyIf I remember correctly 7 major notes, 7 minor notes and then the flat or sharp versions of those notes so it’s like 24 total
>>122589462Frankly it depends on what you count as a key. "Modes" are literally not any different to keys except we pretend otherwise to make the list of keys seem smaller.
>>122590532Yeah they're the same key. Maybe you choose one or the other for reading purposes but you're being obtuse to suggest they're actually different aurally>>122589462>how many keys are there12 major, 12 minor (no sense in splitting harmonic and melodic minor as those are merely functions not separate keys)Then you have six additional modes if you want to count those (ionaian and aeolian are just standard major and minor, respectively) and then you have other unusual scales which I guess you could include if you wantSo my answer is 30+ I guess. Whatever.>but c sharp and D flat are different!Alright dipshit are you going to include F flat major too? How about B sharp major? Whoa we got a badass theoretician over here gonna get double sharps in the mix too? I'll kill you.
>>122590588You’re retarded. Key and modes are different thingsKeys are just the total amount of notes you can play in a certain range Modes are a specific set of notes within a key range that you can play.It would make more sense to say scales and modes are more ambiguous terms because they both kinda mean the same but a mode is a scale but a scale is not a mode.
>>122590631The major and minor keys are modes.
>>122590631A scale is a mode, actually.
>>122590640No they are not.Take the scale of A Major for exampleThe entire set of notes that can be played within the key of A Major is pitches A, B, C, D, E, F, and GIf you wanted to play a certain mode, let’s say Phrygian mode over a certain key, you would play it this way Major: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 11 being the tonic and so on.
>>122590646>>122590631>>122590640There's functionally no difference, it's pure convention. In medieval and remaissance usage the diatonic notes (as in no sharps or flats) contained 7 regular modes and then altered versions of those modes made by placing the upper tetrachord below the lower tetrachord(without altering conventions regarding the tenor/reciting tone). Then they also started transposing the intervalic relationships inherent in each of those modes to different starting tones, including musica ficta tones. The naming of one pair of the 7 transposing modes major and minor scales is purely due to how the frequency of their use in music from the late renaissance onward. There's too many to bother counting, especially when taking in to account scales not typically covered by the traditional system such as the augmented scale. Not that you are going to use f flat hypolocrian unless you are determined to impress your jazz school friends.
>>122589462its an infinity
>>122591000HERE'S MY KEYPHILOSOPHYA FREAK LIKE ME NEEDS INFINITY
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>>122590532They are the same key
>>122590735Anon you fucking donkeyWhat do you think ionian mode is
