I Love Cute Yunky
mhj unironically saved them kids
>JULY COMEBACKS1 STAYC https://youtu.be/s-UXxaQdUew KISS OF LIFE single https://youtu.be/IajeQM00yfE BABYMONSTER single https://youtu.be/eJCHKjt0MPw CHUU (CHUU) mv https://youtu.be/Hjc6AaESmQg CHEEZE https://youtu.be/hPwxv3iElyY JO1 ost https://youtu.be/yXxkP7yE-FA2 aespa jp https://youtu.be/2iK3ccCsI6s Chorong (Apink) single https://youtu.be/p4An4H8n5ic Key (SHINee) jp mv https://youtu.be/aH0zux6WOM43 Lee Chaeyeon https://youtu.be/JDUUniN4rXc Winter (aespa) cf https://youtu.be/Sj5aqPbesWU CSR jp https://youtu.be/jx5qRBdQ2hw meenoi https://youtu.be/lSvKoNRtd4c5 LEEBADA https://youtu.be/2jXwv92Mxa0 eaJ X Hindia https://youtu.be/X-DZ-hTGn4E7 NCT 127 pr https://youtu.be/CkSh1vvRmH48 Taeyeon (SNSD) single https://youtu.be/oE8hAQie8fw (G)I-DLE https://youtu.be/rTKqSmX9XhQ Xdinary Heroes https://youtu.be/kvjShHlG-nc9 Weeekly https://youtu.be/WPGkYxm8xps NTX https://youtu.be/xX-1vVcUrqg TWICE jp pr https://youtu.be/QGCkDOkpWf810 Dreamcatcher https://youtu.be/Wkn6s8RuUDg 12 ENHYPEN https://youtu.be/FPDYeRk2PO8 Wheein (MAMAMOO) https://youtu.be/IKISOlTAYLY15 NCT 127 https://youtu.be/MA_B8RU9BsQ Onew (SHINee) single https://youtu.be/CKtmlo22P9E16 KARA pr https://youtu.be/X9rnV4aMcko WAKER https://youtu.be/fc5DoHjIXu417 TWICE jp https://youtu.be/sML_1FMTn6c TXT cf https://youtu.be/EoMnrKW3Rnw19 Stray Kids https://youtu.be/0P0aQreFs8w Jimin (BTS) https://youtu.be/Av9DvtlJ9_M20 tripleS jp https://youtu.be/rycmOCrOAJM22 Stray Kids remix https://youtu.be/g1OvJCxFe2M24 KARA, RIIZE jp25 OoOo (Ornette) single26 XG pr>ResourcesHelpful Info (Show Times, Music, Guides, etc) https://pastebin.com/N6sw4gLGWebm Making https://pastebin.com/YUwVnVwwPrev Polls https://pastebin.com/vjUXD5RZShinsadong Tiger playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEkZT4VOMrjQpOoQJbHIAgzFR97sAzTVt
>>122886858what kpop-on-topic sports are you following this year?for us it's seolhyun's hobby of bouldering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SivlE7J7MI
predebut footage of newjeans members training under source musichttps://tv.naver.com/v/57930708
>>122886910Kotone looks like a chad to me, I bet she whistles and there's some lower member giving her a foot massage
Heejin and Yves confirmed for ISAC lfgggg
Sticky finally clicks with me
lel j
>>122886933where's dani
eebu hmmmmmm?
how is dayeon skinny yet fat at the same time?
newjeans doing attention predebut with some additional membershttps://tv.naver.com/v/57930633this essentially debunks mhj entire argument that she hand picked the members after audition>>122886942dani was the only member recruited by mhj after the fact apparently, she was a late addition
ugly op
>>122886948wished the other members weren't blurred, I'm more interested in that
>>122886922blessed slug thread
the life of an average kpop fan is incredibly grim, not people who listen to it casually here and there but actual fans who support these talentless hacks
>>122886946she has a big face like other koreans it makes them look fat but they aren't really
why did everyone forgive seulgi right away when some people still haven't forgiven irene?
>>122886933If it's so bad, and controversial of them to release them, it's equally bad for you to continue to share it.
>>122886922Is she possessed by a ghost?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Jsn32DhHa4c?feature=shareNew short from Sarang (formerly of Daydream). Vlog coming soon?
>>122886957we do not forgivewe do not forget expect us
>>122886948well she can still have picked them?
So newjeans were going to debut under source probably with the name lesserafim. Then mhj stepped in and saved the girls and source grabbed salura and chimp and other trainees and a jap ballerina and made lesserafim v2.0Which makes me wonder who would have been forced to have Huh's personality?
Haerin should've been in lsf doing floorfucking choreos
>>122886962truth hurts
>>122886964(this Sarang)
izna debut status?
>>122886967minji
>>122886935
>>122886957seulgi's feet aren't flat and buniony
>>122886964sheesh
>>122886970Which one is Eunchae?
kim gaeul is the prettiest girl in the world
>>122886957>forgive slugwhat happened
>>122886974
>>122886946>>122886955dayeon chose not to get buccal fat removal like wony
>>122886967huh? newjeans was gonna have the music they have now, and nexjeans personalities are already huh's tier, especially minji and hanni who are some of the most obnoxious idols i've ever listenned to
all kpops personalities are fake (except my girls)
>>122886970So, you don't actually care about morality. This is why all you will ever know is pain.
it's 11:11
>>122886983well yeah
>>122886981what do you mean by that?
>>122886984see. nobody cares
>>122886994No its not
>>122886975idk but that song is cringe and people should be ashamed of doing those gay tiktoks to it
>your waifu>your position in footballgo go go
>>122886988Not really, attention is not like their recent stuff its closer to lsf
>>122886982in the white hat on fat left, or the one directly above minji/dani
>>122886890cover :O NICE thats fun i hope so toomaybe something sporty? but stay with me was recently sporty concept so many something differentim glad youre good too im bit tiredd zzz i might sleep sorrytri.be expert haha there is another true here i think knows more than me but she is called elly!!! in the subs and videoslike this FAMOUS VLOG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rin25i0Rtgok maybe not famous but famous for me it was the first tri.be thing i saw outside mv and it was elly going to give hyunbina rapping lesson and hyunbin is like oh great lol in a sarcastic way like showed some actual personally made me like them hahai maybe sleep now ok stayc chingu thanks for talking ok hope you have a good and fun day too oksee you later chingu
>>122886994based anchoragebro
>>122886983explains why shes getting pounded by that gaypop
>>122886984she's a disgusting meat dropper
>>122886900ok ok i think i am rn lol u convinced mei actually havent watched the vlog i was just asking lol sorry..... i think gonig to sleep tho sorry not talk much friend have a good day tomorrow and sleep well soon too ok!see you later
>>122887003stfu
>>122886984she made her manager wear shoes
I'm sorry
>>122887008hyunjae...
not sure why posting some predebut stuff is controversial everyone else does it
>>122887003karinatowel boy
>>122886996chic yoon
>>122886984She made me smell her sweaty shoes while maintaining eye contact
>>122887003chimpstarted at tight end but moved to wide receiver
>>122886984Some dumb shit you have to be a gook to understand the fuss about
lesserafim needs to have hot women in it. newjeans are better for boring pop
>>122886984shes the ugliest shit
goodnight everyone see you all later
>>122886964>>122886974wtf really? I used to follow those ultra nugus because of Ara, I think she still looks the same, very thin qt
hyein
>>122886954seems everyone these days is addicted to some or other meaningless dogshit. if it's not kpop, it's tiktok, twitch, gaming, or schizo politics
you guys just dont know how amazing soominnie is her face alone theres no one like her thats why jaden had to get her in his harem i mean kpop group
>>122887013take your meds taeyeon
>>122886984she made wendy drink out of the toilet
>>122887021hi
we wont stand for slug hate in this thread
>>122887032she's ok
>>122887003dani marsh#12, back rower
>>122887003JiURight winger
>>122887027goodnight
>Idol Stars Athletics Championship (ISAC 2024) Confirmed LineupHeejin (artms)TripleSRocketPunchUNISWeeeklyCignatureBEWAVEICHILLIN'BilllieCandy ShopWOOAHLightsumYvesHyojung and Seunghee (OH MY GIRL)also some gaypops
do u guys remember Daydream?
Is slug mean or not?
marsh danielle pelvic ligament status?
>>122887010ok thats good sleep is importantits really laid back and cute she goes shopping and goes to a restaurant :Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcDo6dCZIkQthats ok have good sleep and have a good day tomorrow! thanks for saying! goodnight chingu!
>>122887026love the skelly loonas
>>122887044where the fuck are the good groups
>>122887027gn sis
>>122887045this is Sarang from Daydream
>>122887003haramgoalie
>>122887046nokorea likes to think she is
dayeon always specifically requests to get smacked in the backside for variety punishment gamesshe also began wiggling and shaking her ass a lot last yearwhat does she mean by this?
>>122887044can't wait for the sad Yves sitting by herself webms
>>122887036
>>122887044grim lineup
>>122887003suzyscrum half
>>122887006maybe, maybe apink cover finally but i doubt it.right, i kinda remember this vlog, the hardsubs say "elly", thanks.goodnight>>122887019as always
>>122887032i liked you more when your ramblings were like "dayeon-nyan big head so cutieful so so cutieful i need to study hard to become an astronaut that will neomu (very) impress cutieful dayeon-nyan!"this soomin character sucks.
>>122887031extremely online people and zoomers arenormies and older people can live normal lives
>>122887050wdym a bunch of good groups there
>>122887044nugubros won it's only missing cherry bullet
>>122887056don't know but i'll tell you one thingi've seen like 20 kpop groups irl and dayeon had the best body by far
>>122887044ALL THE STARS ARE HERE
>>122887068cherry bullet disbanded 3 months ago
>>122887044>Hyojung and Seungheethey will crush everyone in football
>>122887027soeun kind of looking like arin heregn
>>122887053NUMNUM was their debut track
>>122887044delulu orbits about to be SHATTERED
>>122887067theyre alright but there's no good groups like twice, blackpink, red velvet, mamamoo, dreamcatcher, oh my girl....
>>122887044>no stayc
>>122887044all those sweaty girl idols oommoooooo
>>122887046gooks are insane and slug is lovely
>>122887068>he doesn't know
>>122887064people change and mature and so do their tastes in life food music and love and perhaps i found my true love and they call her soominnie
>>122887050>where the fuck are the good groupsthey're taking a nice vacation overseas while these retards have to work for free
>>122887076do you guys remember?
>>122887045ahahah what a joke. I bet after the photoshoot she removed those shoes and put one some slippers or sneakers.Asian women can't walk in high heels. They fail at being femine. The look liek absolute clown when they try to do itMy brazilian black queen gf mogs them. She knows how to walk in high heels, and will do so for many hours. She knows hwo to be properly feminine
>>122887044sheon gonna wreck a bitches day
>>122887045>>122887053gyat
>>122887050lightsum is right there
>>122887069really?does she even have the best body in kep1er?
what's the story of the normie that sometimes shows up and talks to his 'friend' like they're on reddit it's like >did you see seulgi's latest blog? lol it was so funny>yes chingu I watched it, she is a cutie
>>122887045More like wetdream
>>122887094how onew
>>122887094old men larping as teenage girls for years
>>122887093>best body in kep1eryeseo…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjXXSsVNncQthis ones for soominnie and all the soominpinos out there
>>122887086>>122887088are you okay? like... in your brain?
>>122887044More like Nugu Stars Athletics Championships
>>122887089sheon just gonna sit back and chat with her gp999 frens xinyu and kotone all day
>>122886984she had blisters on her feet and her manager offered to switch shoes with her in the airporta couple lonely miserable people online said she forced her manager to switch shoes
>>122887094it's a sophisticated form of erp
>>122887044Holy fuck all the kpg nugu favs are there
>>122887100It’s one man
>>122887069her head is quite big for her body and her legs are short
danielle confirmed chosen by the shaman, not min hee jin>MHJ: What about Daniel? The American kid. Are you pretentious? (I haven't met him)>Shaman: Daniel is clueless>MHJ: Are you going to cause trouble?>Shaman: He's good for getting us into the U.S.
>>122887094it's literally all one guy
>>122887094girls post here too brother
>>122887109right? in particular some anon made me aware that the BEWAVE girls have huge asses, I'm sure it will come in handy
>>122887088everyone knows that black women are the most masculine and asian women are the most feminine
>>122887050 at least unis are attending otherwise itd be unwatchable
>>122887044if your group is not here, they've made it
>>122887113thank you based shaman
im a guy and i want to kiss kim yohan
>>122887044will they have nunchuck fighting?
>>122887110proof?
>>122887096>>122887069>>122887093>>122887102chaehyun
>>122887113the shaman is very powerful >>122887113
reddit spacing chingu mad his is not invited
>>122887123go to bed already cbs
>>122887113only people who speak korean should post translations here. using google translate or AI shit is embarrassing
>>122887113Origin: French. Meaning:God is my Judge. Danielle is a feminine name that embodies beauty, intellect, and defiance. A French variation of Daniel, Danielle is born from the Hebrew daniy'el and means "God is my Judge." It's a name that celebrates staying true to oneself, caring only for judgments of a higher power.
>>122887123nigga you gay
>>122887117they do have nice butts
if the fat bastard had his waythere would've been some kim gookju instead of our precious dani
>>122887113its funny how this reveals that those retards who called me retarded for saying that Danielle and Hanni weren't actually australian were actually retardsHanni was scouted from a vietnamese communityDanielle's father is of british descent
>>122887117omo I need to investigate this
>>122887044>Cignature>LightsumJEEWON AND CHOWON WRESTLING
>>122887044Missing Tri.be :(
>>122887044this can't be the full lineup haewon is mc'ing but no nmixx? and it's not the same as dubu and twice
i like chingu hoursthey're the most positive hours
Min hee jin confirmed to have delayed Newjeans' debut herself because she didnt hold to her schedule, not because Soumu wanted to debut LSF firstMin hee jin confirmed to have created Newjeans only after her Shaman told her to do sothis disproves her entire narrative>As confirmed by meeting minutes, he initial goal of Source was, N-Team Q3 2021, S-Team ( now Le Seraphim) Q1 2022. However, as of June 2021, the N-Team Council was still only coordinating R&R.>MHJ Spent over 40 Million won in shaman fees in that period, delaying production meetings with Source over 4 times.>June 9, 2021. Park Ji-won, So Seong-jin, and Min Hee-jin gathered. Park Ji-won said on the spot, "Team S could become HYBE's first girl group.">Min Hee-jin responded on the spot, “Are you a gangster?” However, she had a different strategy after consulting the shaman.>She asked,>MHJ “What if I bring the N team to my own label?”>Shaman: Since you said publicly you were managing the Sakura Team, take advantage of that.>MHJ: So you said to let the Sakura team debut first, and then take care of debuting the other girl group myself?>Shaman: take the kids (N team) and make a bold move.
>>122887063oh i forgot to say it was elly even oops yes elly! we will watch the stayc movie byee lol
>>122887048ok ok ill watch it for sure thank you for saying toobyeee
>>122887124where did her boobies go?
>>122887138yes you are retarded
>>122887141:(
what's with the shaman? why is this a big deal?
Xinyu will be the best athlete
>>122887138dumbest post in the thread right hereholy smokes
>>122887043>>122887048>>122887051>>122887063>>122887075>>122887095thank you guys <3 goodnight
>>122887151it isn't
>>122887128meatlovers love her
>>122887142it's only the lineup so far, announcements are still coming in
>>122887149>>122887154Australians should stop taking credit for other country's accomplishmentsthat doesn't make me retarded
>>122887140chowon's big knockers rubbing against jeewon...
>>122887147they're hidden
You would think Stayc could use some free promotion for their latest flop...
>>122887093dayeon is the sexiest
>>122887094we like seulgi here i watched her vlog and it was cute
>>122887154it's just one HDI-let mad that we have the best posters and best idols
>>122887066shit's quickly spreading to the oldies, too. listened to my step mum talk about k-drama the other day and how pretty koreans are
How does the metaverse and aespa relate?
>>122887157men love her
>>122887151shes consulting with her friend about business decisions and she actually gave her helpful enough advice so now they are upset
>>122887169Who's her husbando?
>>122887175Min hee jin confirmed to have dropped a trainee because her shaman told her she was possesseddoes this seem like helpful business advice?>Min Hee Jin: [Picture] Do you agree with getting rid of her?>Shaman “K”: I totally agree>Min Hee Jin: [Picture]>Shaman “K”: She looks like a total fool. Her eyes look like she has a second soul.>Min Hee Jin: Is she possessed by a ghost?>Shaman “K”: Totally. It’s dark under her eyes and she looks like she is completely out of it.>Min Hee Jin: She is eliminated, confirmed.>Shaman “K”: Confirmed.this entire article is gold
>>122887161jeewon's mega milker squishing into chowon...
>>122887170Meta universe existsnow Parallel worldAll beings have meaningPart of my heartWe use sympathetic wordsand share the body temperaturesIn the end, we only pursuethe value of goodwill
>>122887066>older people can live normal livesDid you miss the whole qanons boomers pipeline?
isac fell off, f
>>122887144>MHJ Spent over 40 Million won in shaman fees in that periodpaying her chingu 40 grand. is mhj also a loser?
>>122887179wow, she's not just a nonce - she's profoundly mentally disabled.
Isa ('s pants) fell off
shamans gave us newjeans maybe more kpop label should consult shamans
Y'all know you all will watch the shit out of isac anyway stop tripping
fyi if triples attends isaac that means at least 4 other groups wont be able to
>>122887151the shaman just helped construct the biggest thing in kpop, they should be given a raise if anything
It 3:33
>>122887094it's irpinnocent role playa tender cheek to cheek dance across the internet with a sweet young girl who has a tinge of mystery to herwhy do you hate fun
>>122887191why do you talk like that?
for the last time she didn't consult him in his capacity as a shaman, he's her trusted friend who just also happens to be a shaman
>>122887193I didn’t know the shaman was involved with triples
>>122887192surely they don't send all 24, that's fucking frustrating for my group who didn't even get the invite probably bc of it
>>122887182most boomers consider them freaks like everyone else
Koreans are so fucking weird and cultish
>>122887191i have never actually watched ISAC
imagine dropping out of high school, going to dance school 12 hours a day, going through ps and a excruciating diet, only to get dropped because a shaman doesnt like your face
>>122887199you don't just happen to be a shaman. that's a full time gig
>>122887177song joongki. she's right, too. very pretty dude
sometimes i do worry about soominnie she cant dance or sing and has an awkward body and dance line she cant really on her cutieful looks forever
>shamansis this a quirk of translation or do koreans really trust to hobo looking dudes who claim to be able to communicate with spirits? what the hell is a "shaman" in this context
aespa meatloverse
>>122887145later
>>122887211why do you always neg your current obsession you weirdo
>>122887212Nigga this ain't a wrpg
>>122887212>do koreans really trust to hobo looking dudes who claim to be able to communicate with spiritsyes, mhj's shaman is female though
>>122887170so the metaverse is a where kwangya and flat is and you have to go through flat to get to kwangya but normal people from the real world cant go to kwangya so aespa needs to meet their ae selves from the metaverse and synk so they can become the MY members and visit kwangya with help from naevis but they can't synk for too long and when they synk ae-selves can appear in the real world using rekall but they also cant do this for too long
>>122887212do you seriously not remember the Park Geun-hye scandal? i'm surprised there isn't more mystic horse shit in kpop to be honeset
>>122887210Yeah I liked him in Vincenzo
I am sure this "shaman" is in business suit and acting as a "consultant"
out of all the kpops yunjin has the most connections to other idols
she was like miyeon before miyeon
>>122887170they dropped that shit. karina said it was too expensive to animate the ae-members
>>122887212go look up korea's importance they place on shamans
slug is going overseas next month
Some sexy youngpussyness in the thread
>>122887224yea
>>122887235for what
Nobody likes me
>>122887217am i wrong?
>>122887228true. every single one of them hates her
>>122887212You have to understand that Koreans are only about a generation removed from being dirty peasants living in poverty. It takes longer to develop some sophiscation, even if they have money now.
>>122887227i prefer to imagine her as being dressed up like suguru geto from jjk
>>122887172one day she'll reach her full potential
Best Korea is literally runs like a cult how would SK be any different it is ingrained in the Koreans collective mentality
>>122887238she didn't say
>>122887227does this look like professional consulting to you?>>122887179
triples should play a full soccer match at isac
>>122887243it's 2024 not 1950
>>122887212it's best to think of koreans as one part siberian tribesmen and one part sino-japanese civilization
>>122887212do you really not know how superstitious koreans are? they see fortune tellers and shit all the time. it's just for fun these days, but in days of old they took it quite seriously. basically every korean person ive known genuinely believes in ghosts. the ways of陰陽道 are still strong in asians' minds.
>>122887238me nigga
>>122887252it was a good decision whats your point?
>>122887251could be a homing beacon or a treacking device
small titty kpops shouldn't debut
>>122887236holy FUCK
>>122887248its useful to remember that south korea was an absolute shithole full of dirtfarmers not that long ago. the entire contry is new money and acts like it.
>>122887212shamans are women
>>122887264he's talking about the football where you use your feet to kick a ball
>>122887236she should gain 10kg
>>122887212https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35FbwCIxT0gintergalactic shamans
>>12288726422 on the field with 1 sub each seems good
>>12288726411 a side plus 1 substitute
>>122887257>every korean person ive known genuinely believes in ghostsIVE ghost house prank...
>>122887252strategy consulting looks exactly like thati bet her shaman has an mba and worked for one of the big three
>>122887239tzuyu likes you :)
>>122887257why would anyone "just know" how superstitious koreans are
wives
>>122887255it takes a while. hell, in the west, ronald reagan consulted an astrologer for his presidential schedule
i cant believe the side that makes the most sense is the 45 year old femcel with depression and her shaman best friend. instead of the billion dollar megacorp full of lawyers and highly educated execs
>>122887251haeweon period blood ruining one of best new thigh webm
steve jobs shaman told him to not get chemo, mhj's is pretty good
shamen are men and yuzo koshiro needs to apologizehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfQ98A-6mG8
>shithole full of dirtfarmersthat was like every country before the 50s lol
god soominnie so cute i cant take it anymore!!!
I only take proper superstitious advice from the shooting stars I see and whatever appears in my dreams
>>122887276Stop lying
>>122887281that might say more about your personal mental faculties than them brother please reconsider your choices
heej and eebu vs. all 24 tripleS survival matchthe S come in waves of 2, 4, 6, then the last 12 all at once
Japan was lucky it was an island otherwise USSR would have homogenized both Korea and Japan together
>>122887281that's how magic works brother it triumphs over all circumstance and logic
>>122887251looks like some feminine hygiene product, but blood still leaked out. god womens bodies are such a clown show
>>122887282who? haewon?
>>122887279people here consult the % of blood in their penis to determine which music they should listen to they have no right to speak
>>122887257Wony LITERALLY believes she saw a UFO
>>122887293im pretty smart but thanks for worrying about me.
>>122887296that sounds pretty good though
>>122887288t. third worlderthe industrial revolution started ~1830 in non brown countries just saying
>>122887291>whatever appears in my dreamsalso how you should determine your waifu. if she contacts you in sleep, it's meant to be
None of us are as smart as Yooyeon
>>122887302tbf if she didnt know what it was then it's a ufo
>>122887307so UK is the only non-brown country
We're smarter than most idols except for the really smart ones like Wendy
>>122887308lily is a character in most of my dreams these dayscould it be...
>>122887281for me it's clear this is personal for bang sihyuk, he won't let her win, this could have ended some time ago, or at the very least could have been resolved behind doors
>>122887277because we're on kpg and i just assume that people will know shit about korea and the people.this shouldn't be a stretch but apparently it is.
>>122887307farming is based, tertiary countries are hellholes
https://streamable.com/zmcl4i
>>122887320cope
>>122887313would a smart person be browsing kpg
let's just hope all the drama continues to tear down hybe and benefit our girls, aespa and IVE
angels
Wony also randomly said she grew up in Atlanta out of nowhere bitch is lying
>>122887239but thats ok because i dont like yall anyway
>>122887316yea quite clearly, the timing is very telling, can't even let them and tokkis enjoy the 2nd anniversary without leaking bullshit
>he's not occult pilledLet me guess, you only believe what you see with your own eyes? What scientists tell you is real?
>>122887332
>>122887331yes
eunha cut her hair short on a whim in pittsburghremains a supremely cute look
>>122887331hahaha tell em tin foil hat timmy
Acting on superstition is literally how human operate throughout most of its history until very recently
>>1228873271 angel 2 angel 3 angel 4wonhee is a cripple and she's crawling on the floor
>>122887328I almost believed her but then I read your post and realized yeah I believe her