>called "grunge">it's actually just heavy metal with a bit of psychadelia
Not much of their stuff prior to Superunknown sounded “grunge”
It’s rock music, guitars and drums
>>122896733Why are you /mu/tards so obsessed with however the fuck they call music? The names they use are not even consistent, they change them all the time and are always coined *after* the artists release their shit. You're literally debating on what some guy that has nothing to do with making music said.
Room a Thousand Years Wide is the type of thing the guitar was made for
>>122896733>>122896781grunge is metal plus punk plus psychedelia. see also green river and screaming trees.
>>122896733>called "grunge">it's actually just 70s Who with a bit of Neil Young>called "grunge">it's actually just punk with a bit of PixiesGrunge isn't a real genre anon, doesn't mean the bands aren't good
>>122896733Welcome to the world of marketing
>>122896733grunge was entirely a marketing term. AiC was sludge metal and Nirvana was punk with some noise elements and pop melodies, dunno what to call Pearl Jam besides hard rock but they don't sound cleaner than nirvana dunno how to describe. They also sound like nothing like them tbf>>122896821i don't really take it that seriously but I'm not above genre labels cause it helps you find shit
>>122897061I meant to say they sound cleaner not they dont
>>122897061>AiC was sludge metal*hair metal
https://youtu.be/V9qfTYeXlR4
>>122897061>grunge was entirely a marketing termEvery genre is entirely a marketing term you dipshit.
>>122896936It's metalish slow-motion punk, at least initially. Then it began to be more rockish than metalish in the 90's with Nirvana, Pearl Jam, & STP. It doesn't have a single defining sound because of this.
>>122896733>heavy metalnot really
the correct term is grudge
there are bands doing musicgenres are for journoszoomers are lost
>>122896733i would go with psychedelic alternative metal
>>122896733these grunge bands are posted so often , is it because music now sucks, grunge is awesome, or this board is filled with gen x;rs.soundgarden was my fav band during the 90s. cornell was so active across so many albums and songs >temple of the dog>sap album>singles soundtrack
>>122896821it's a milennial thing, they cant think outside of genre. their generation has accomplished nothing better than a dance remix of a corny 80s song
>>122897725It's infuriating, and they keep arguing as we speak over if Alice in Chains is sludge metal, hair metal or some other shit.... fuckin Alice in Chains! who are literally one of the most well-known bands ever. It's not like someone's gonna look into the trash metal section and completely miss out on Alice in Chains because they're actually sludge metal. Fucking ridiculous.
>>122897685One or more of the schizos that haunt this board is obsessed with AiC/Soundgarden. I like them too, but that's why
Soundgarden and Screaming Trees are the only "grunge" I like because they're psychedelic.
Mogged by Alice
>>122896733Grunge is basically sludge rock, seventies metal combined with 80's hardcore punk. Different bands put more emphasis on one or the other.>>122897870Do yourself a favor and check out Truly.
>>122897904they're both great in their own way
>>122897305That's not true, asshole. Some genre labels come from the community and most are objective descriptions of the elements in the music. It's just that people label things wrong
>>122897002>called "grunge">it's actually slowed down hair metal with depressing lyrics
>>122898826Should've got Hiro to do vocals on this album, Circle of power is better than every song on here
>>122897904Who the fuck is alice is she from Buckingham palace
>>122896936I didn't realize until trying a decent dose of acid just what a large amount of the music I have been hearing throughout my entire life was psychedelic, both influenced by the aesthetic of psychedelia in a way I didn't notice at first as well as the music or production being purposefully synesthetic and visual, which I didn't even know was a thing, that a sound stage converts into like a 3d visual painting in your head with consistent elements, if they aren't being overridden by other hallucinations.
>>122896733it was a form of punk - metal. One that was different than the radio hard rock of the time, and it replaced it on the radio.
>>122896821well the term grunge was before that Soundgarden album.They were talking about the new sounds from Seattle before September 1991 and Nevermind. Don't remember if the word grunge was being used then. By 1994, that was all mainstream rock radio hitmakers.
>>122897002sub genre of hard rock, sub genre of punk-metal.If the genre name was never created, there wouldn't necessarily have been a need for the name.However, as someone who was there, there was a strong desire for new names to announce that something new was happening, and the new name that was chosen was grunge. There certainly was something new happening. It wasn't all that different from Blue Cheer, MC5 and The Stooges.Emo as a term wasn't needed, that could have been folded under hardcore. Emo came before grunge, but only a handful of people around Washington DC actually heard Rites of Spring. It became popular 15-20 years later.
>>122897087>>AiC was sludge metal>*hair metalMainstream Rock Radio Hits.Man in a Box was a pretty big rock radio hit, but it wasn't so fresh and new that people thought it was something that different than the other songs on the radio.
Grunge is an aesthetic, not a genre. There are certain grunge cliches that can make a band grunge.
>>122897395Soundgarden had a decent amount of popularity in the late 80s so did Mudhoney. Whatever you think this one is, is what grunge was before Nevermind.https://youtu.be/LYKAXJC1Lkk?si=2WrWQeQS2_prXIFzPunk - Metal.Indie Hard Rock.
>>122897685>>temple of the dogI had that album, bought in the summer of 91, before Nevermind came out. It was a PR copy which found its way to a indie record store.
>>122897771>literally one of the most well-known bands ever.not really. Certainly top 1000 most well known bands ever. so, yeah maybe. aic and stp were mainstream rock radio hitmakers.
>>122896733Grunge was the Scene. The bands were mostly all different genres, sonically.Trying to pin shit down with a prescriptivist style of taxonomy just makes a person seem like a tard trying to sound smarter than they could ever be.
>>122897144queen tie your mother sounds like drawing flies
>>122903695>They were talking about the new sounds from Seattle before September 1991 and Nevermind. Don't remember if the word grunge was being used then. By 1994, that was all mainstream rock radio hitmakers.western civilization peaked in 1994
The term "grunge" was directly adopted by SubPop as their branding in the late 80s. It wasn't music journalists.
>band is a little bit heavier than what I normally listen to>NOW THIS IS HEAVY METAL RIGHT HERE GUYSStop that
>>122897725It's Xers who coined all that shit as grunge and called it that the whole era, retard. Kys
>>122904060>um actually only extreme metal is metal, no music from before the 80s was ever considered metal
the first time anyone described the music coming out of seattle as "grunge" was Mark Arm in 1981
>>122904521he wrote that about an imaginary band he made up as a prank iirc. calling actual music grunge didn't really happen until subpop started using it in some of their press stuff.
>>122904847Mark worked with Pavett before he started the label, probably got it from him
>>122904858almost definitely, i'm just saying that quote wasn't really referring to music from seattle because the music he was taking about didn't actually exist.
>>122904847his quote was about his band Mr. Epp (and the Calculations) who played their first show in 1981, so they were a "real" band, just a not particularly good one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xeUWZh7W0o&list=PLl7vwYWvNN2Pe6AuRAM-o62rsyalsYPhq
>>122896839Best SG song hands down.
>>122901126He's obviously talking about Alice Mudgarden
>>122905689>Alice Mudgardenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7mY-1VvLWc
>>122908143>>122905689https://youtu.be/nERGdZw036M?t=140
>the term refers to a Mesa Boogie pre amp setting which was used on that albumI hate everyone born after 1980.
>>122898826>TrulyYou are a very based music appreciator.
>>122908207moron
>>122899092Lol
>>122896733more like blue metal than anything
>>122908179Buzzo told Mark Arm and KimThayil about drop-d tuning (Sabbath as the example)Thayil told Cantrellthe rest is history
>>122911721sabbath didnt use drop d dumbass.
>>122911786Buzz may have been wrong about Sabbath using it, but that's where they got the idea from. dumbass.KIM THAYIL: Mark Arm, myself, and Buzz Osborne were hanging out at Mark Arm’s apartment in the U District, listening to records and BS’ing about bands, around late ’86. Buzz mentioned that on a number of Black Sabbath songs, Tony Iommi used a tuning called drop D, where the low-E string was tuned down a whole step. It makes things a little bit lower, a little bit heavier. After that, I went ahead and wrote a number of songs in drop D tuning—the first song I wrote with it was “Nothing to Say”—and then we experimented with other drop tunings. People started comparing us to Zeppelin or Black Sabbath, but we weren’t listening to those bands then—we were listening to Bauhaus and Killing Joke.
>>122911885>um actually he got the idea to use it from a band that didn't use itkill yourself immediately
>>122911934>kill yourself immediatelyno u
>>122909944>blue metalfinally a good genre coinage
>>122897087alternative metal
>>122896936This, and some hardcore punk too, by way of Black Flag, Die Kreuzen, Flipper and Fang
>>122898826Pretty much and crossover is the same thing but with 80s metal instead.
>>122903788Those Greg Ginn style guitar licks
>>122908207Thanks I hate you too
>>122897685grunge is zoomies first intro to good music
