what exactly is this and why does it trigger some people so much?
Boomers hate it because they are only impressed by virtuosos, but it’s also overused by trannies so they can sound like women.
>>122903482Autotune doesn't do thatformant and pitch shift does that
Autotune converts pitch discrepancies the average person can't hear into digital artifacts that are very audible.
That sfx they did on "Believe" where it sounds like the singer is being punched in the throat. I fucking hate that bullshit.
>>122903453https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-Tune
>>122903453it allows one to accurately express their love for a stripper
>>122903482>dumbass pseud doesnt know the diff between autotune and melodyne
>>122903482>Boomers hate it because they are only impressed by virtuosos, butbeg pardon? boomers always said rock was supposed to deprecate virtuoso singing like they had in the 50s.
>>122903595Disturbia is another song I can think of with that shit.
>>122903619People are bad-faith holders of both these positions all the time. People think it's noble to wrestle power for themselves by lowering the bar, but when it comes time for them to oversee the new generation, they'll cry out like it's not fair
>>122903619I guess they meant singers like Eydie Gorme or some shit where their performance is just a brute display of lung capacity with no expression at all.
>>122903490>>122903610Trannies expose themselves itt
>>122904078I actually use formant and pitch shift to make my voice deeper because I think it's funny
>>122903482The same boomers never had any problem with vocoders. They just lost their minds when producers started using computer software to achieve the exact same effect and apply it to genres other than dad-rock. It was always a kneejerk emotional response, not a rational position.
>>122904220Vocorders were such a rare novelty that when you'd use them on a track like "Sweet Emotion" it almost stood out. It's not quite so bad as that asinine throat punching effect that was introduced on "Believe." I literally cannot stand listening to a song where that's used.
>>122903453Pitch correction software. Most people that are triggered by it don't really know what it is and are only reacting in those instances where it is intentionally used as a vocal effect.Legitimate reasons to be skeptical of the use of auto-tune is that some of the "warmth" of older or live recordings originates in the more complex harmonics created by slight pitch deviation, the difference is perhaps most noticeable when comparing an older to a newer string ensemble recording.
>>122904268That song came out like 20 fucking years ago dude
I love Zapp and Roger though...
>>122903453every shitty rapper uses autotune in a blatant in your face fashion. it sounds like shit and like a mix of a shit robot and keyboard
>>122904280nta but "Sweet Emotion" was '74? that's a bit more than 20 years ago.
>>122904277>WARMTHOpinion discarded>Newer string ensemblesDo you think that people use autotune on classical recordings?
>>122904285To be fair rap is an absolute sewer pipe so no standards are expected from it anyway.
>>122904292Believe not Sweet EmotionAutotune has been employed in so many other contexts lol
>>122903619Source? I would say boomers respected musical ability, as long as it wasn't too formal/academic sounding. They don't want to hear bel canto or opera singing, but they loved male singers who could hit super high notes with a full voice and a lot of grit, which is not easy to do (or particularly good for the voice).
>>122904293>Do you think that people use autotune on classical recordings?They do, in addition to a shitload of editing, whereas most older recordings would consist of live cuts.
>>122904305Well Believe came out in 1997 and that was also a bit more than 20 years ago. 20 years ago was 2004, you know.
>>122903453>triggersgrow up
>>122904332Most string ensembles are recorded with microphones capturing multiple instruments at once. Autotuning multiple voices sounds like shit.What you're talking about is tape warble not autotune, and the rest is a whole lot of nonsense
>>122904340So it's 27 years ago? Lol what's the point of getting pedantic
>>122904324>They don't want to hear bel canto or opera singing, but>>122904182Like this.
>>122904268Sweet Emotion is a talkbox. But you're right in that a vocoder would be a novelty - it wasn't something that was meant to replace vocals entirely. Whereas the modern attitude towards auto-tune is that it's now expected that every singer of every genre uses it to get a "professional" sounding recording.
>>122904413>Whereas the modern attitude towards auto-tune is that it's now expected that every singer of every genre uses it to get a "professional" sounding recordingI assume people who think that sounds good never actually listened to the recording afterward because I can't imagine who would heard Disturbia and think that should have even gotten out of the building.
>>122904447That song has a lot more problems than just Rihanna sounding like her throat is being punched.
it triggers me alot and i can't listen to alot of pop and hiphop cause of it. esp whats popular atm. if you do it just a bit (idk like pinkpanthress if we're talking modern) its ok, as long as your real voice isnt taken over by the pitch correction "robot voice"
>>122904447I hear it all the time in so many genres, and it always sounds bad, unless the singer is close enough to pitch that it wasn't even necessary (or unless it's obviously an effect). I remember hearing a newer Willy Nelson song and the autotune kicked in bad when he tried to reach a higher not (and apparently failed).
>>122904405even the bad 50s-60s pop never irritates me to the extent that bad 2000s-2010s pop does
