Streaming is superior in literally every way. If you want to buyfag, vinyl sleeves are much better at showcasing album art than jewel cases.
>>122920169why the fuck would I want to buy a vinyl? I like women and am not 80 years old
>>122920169because some people like the ritual of opening a case, putting it in the player, and listening to the whole thing, but they're too clumsy for vinyl.
>>122920169CD is more convenient and cheaper
>>122920205>>122920262CDs nuts
>>122920169cds are objectively the superior physical format, especially compared to records. with the same mastering, they sound better. they're more convenient and durable. they're cheaper. you can play them in portable players or your car. "MuH CovEr ArT!1!" is a meme because nobody but the most cretinous simpleton is sitting there gawking at a 12" square piece of "art" for more than 30 seconds. there's a reason they beat both vinyl and cassettes, and that's because they're just better.streaming vs physical media is a separate discussion altogether.
>>122920169Most streaming isn't lossless. Rip a CD and you own both lossless digital and a physical copy, it's two formats in one. No-brainer.
>>122920169I just like cds better is all. They use lasers to play them, that fucking cool.
>>122920242What? No. "They like the ritual". What are you smoking? No one who likes music gives a thought to that when they play a CD. CDs exist because they were a popular medium in the past. Things just don't disappear into the ether when they become archaic. There are lots of albums that are only available on CD.
>>122920169when there is no internet connection or power to charge, there is a cd player that runs on batteries. and cd has wav files.
>>122920649vinyl records can do you one better because you technically don't even need electricity to play them
>>122920647nigga, i listen to CD's because of the ritual involved. it's one of the things that i enjoy most in life. FOH.
>>122920669cassette tapes is even better because you can choke yourself with the unspooled tape
>>122920169CDs are a dated and inferior format for playing music Vinyl, which is also a dated and superior physical media format. But I believe they should start looking for an alternative
>>122920698>But I believe they should start looking for an alternativethe time for that was 20+ years ago, it’s digital files
>>122920606well said, fren
I have a stack of cds as tall as my boy, of classical recordings, half of which are not online in any format, streaming or torrent. I will have them burried with me but i will play them for family and friends. I will let family members copy them onto cassettes if they ask me nicely.
>>122920698CDs exploded in popularity when they came out because everyone was amazed you could listen to music without a bunch of extra noise. Analog vinyl and tapes are such a shit medium that there is a whole vocabulary for all the different ways they can sound like shit: hum, hiss, pops, crackle, "surface noise", "wow & flutter", etc.Calling CDs an "inferior format" to vinyl is really dumb.
>>122920677Glad you enjoy your hobby of putting CDs into a slot or tray bro but this board is for music.
>>122921240that's a part of the experience tho. a blunt, a few cd's i wanna listen to, some of my homebrew mead, and either my headset or through my cerwin vega system if nobody's around.
>>122921155I know, these vinyl morons obviously weren't there. CDs were a major upgrade over vinal and cassettes, effectively doing away with both formats completely once cd players became standard in cars and every pc had a cd burner. I do think vinyl are cool from a collector standpoint, just like collecting old memorabilia or lighters or something like that but when they start with "its superior" its too much. Also, lasers are cool.
>>122920169CDs are the best physical format because you can easily rip them to whatever digital format you like and play/copy/transfer/share/convert/compress the files all you want. Then you can either resell the CDs and get your money back or keep them as a backup without having to use them. By contrast, vinyl rips are trash and a record has a finite number of plays before it wears out and needs to be replaced.Actually listening to physical media of any kind is pointless unless you’re a hardcore audiophile fag with a fetish for vinyl warmth and at least $50k worth of gear. If you’re not managing your own library of lossless (or at the very least 320 or v0) music files, then you’re doing it wrong. And if you’re relying 100% on streaming services with shitty bitrates and either paying a monthly or sitting through commercials between songs, then you’re beyond hope.
Outside of niche vinyl DJing and the few release that were never digitized CD is superior in like everyway
>>122921240How is that different than putting a record on the platter and pressing the "Play" button? Because you have to flip the record over halfway through?>inb4 poorfags don't have an automatic turntableIt's not 1930. Fuck you and fuck turntable manufacturers for not having the features of turntables from the 80's.
>>122920169I can buy CD for $1.00 in my area (records are $15+) and I own the music. I would only use Youtube (not YouTube Music) for streaming. Even then, that is usually to download onto a USB Flash Drive.
>>122920169Just keep listening to more and more music. You'll eventually understand.
>>122921719This, CDs are cheap as fuck.
Someday there'll be no internet or your favourite artist gets scrubbed from the web and all that'll be left will be physical media. Burn CDrs if you have to. Physical is King. I say this as an ardent digital pirate. Back your shit up on discs, I implore you.
>tfw you pop your cd in a ps1
I'm just not going to stream. I KNOW. It's just that I'm not going to stream.
>>122921469I think it's cool that it's coming back and people are refusing to let physical music go, I just don't want to see CDs be replaced by vinyl. It's like going from papyrus scrolls to cuneiform tablets because nostalgia.
>>122920169>Why do CDs still exist?it's unironically because of k-pop, best selling albums last year (all formats):SEVENTEEN FML 6.4mStray Kids 5-STAR 5.3mNCT DREAM ISTJ 4.6mSEVENTEEN SEVENTEENTH HEAVEN 4.5mStray Kids ROCK-STAR 4.2mTaylor Swift 1989 (Taylor’s Version) 2.8mJung Kook GOLDEN 2.7mEXO EXIST 2.3mIVE I’ve MINE 2.2mV Layover 2.2mZEROBASEONE YOUTH IN THE SHADE 2.2maespa MY WORLD 2.1mTOMORROW X TOGETHER The Name Chapter : FREEFALL 2.0m(G)I-DLE I feel 2.0mNCT 127 Fact Check 1.9mENHYPEN DARK BLOOD 1.7mIVE I’ve IVE 1.7mJimin FACE 1.7mENHYPEN ORANGE BLOOD 1.7maespa Drama 1.5mthe vinyl market is a little more diversified though Taylor Swift is a huge part of it:Taylor Swift 1989 (Taylor’s Version) 1,400kTaylor Swift Speak Now (Taylor’s Version) 684kTaylor Swift Midnights 562kTravis Scott UTOPIA 415kPink Floyd The Dark Side of The Moon 402kOlivia Rodrigo GUTS 398kTaylor Swift folklore 377kLana Del Rey Did you know that… 352kTaylor Swift Lover 323kFleetwood Mac Rumours 323kThe Rolling Stones Hackney Diamonds 305kLana Del Rey Born To Die 256kTaylor Swift evermore 237kQueen Greatest Hits 227kTaylor Swift Red (Taylor’s Version) 225kTyler, The Creator IGOR 218kMichael Jackson Thriller 217kMetallica 72 Seasons 206kHarry Styles Harry’s House 204kboygenius the record 200k
>>122922446>best selling albums last year>everything is K-pop with the exception of a single Taylor Swift albumExtraordinarily grim
>>122920169Vinyl is like five times as expensive for product with a shorter lifespan
>>122920169Why do you care what other people do or spend their money on, faggot?
>>122921799they used to be very cheap until 5-10 years ago, both brand new or pre-owned. Now it's harder to find good deals on CDs. Old albums are 10 euros minimum, unless we're talking about the bottom of the barrel. You used to be able to buy those for much less.Also, a lot of CDs have gone out of print recently, so the prices on the second hand market have skyrocketed.overall, it's like the CD format gradually went from being a declining mass product to a niche product. Most people have abandoned it, but if you still want it, you have to pay a substantial price.
>>122923055I guess there is a different reality in America, I can still get Beatles CDs for like $2.00 from a flea market (used).
>holds audio in crisp format>can be played in cars, boomboxes, computers and the most kvlt device every conceived (sony discman)>can easily burn audio to them with a few clicks on your mouse>can satisfy the morons
>>122923055I think the most I've paid for a CD album was $30, and that was for an album that's been OOP since the 80's. I really don't mind paying $17 for a reissue either. It was always expensive to import CDs from Japan or Europe, then you had to pay the record store an extra $5 for importing the album for you. The real problem is that is where most of the reissues are now.
>>122923090Paid $25 for two Title Fight cds this past week that are slowly slipping out of print. Not terrible by any means. It's been a while since I've bought a cd that wasn't a new release that cost that much.
>>122921859i back my shit up on HARD discs, the greatest of all physical media
>>122920647ngmisorry lass
>>122922239Me too, and I'm happy that right now CDs are overlooked in thrift shops etc, I buy so many a buck a piece and every now and then I splurge and spend $10. Actually I went a little nuts a month ago and spent $20 for a Helen Merrill cd from japan.
>>122920344>a meme because nobody but the most cretinous simpleton is sitting there gawking at a 12" square piece of "art" for more than 30 seconds.shitting on the concept of album art just to add an edge to your post and maybe get some (You)s, I see what you're doing>>122920698There were all sorts of failed attempts at technically super CD formats but there just isn't enough of a market for ithttps://obsoletemedia.org/super-audio-cd/https://obsoletemedia.org/dvd-audio/https://obsoletemedia.org/high-fidelity-pure-audio/
>>122923991*superior
>>122920169i kinda regret selling all my cd's now after looking at all these posts. i have my vinyl but i will admit sometimes im just not in the mood to fuck with all of it sometimes
>>122920169why are they called jewel cases anyway?
>>122920367For me this is the reason. I can rip a CD to MP3 or FLAC and then I still have the album on the shelf as an archival back-up with all the liner notes, etc. I even went back through some liner notes from 90s rave CD compilations a couple months ago just to clarify the year of their release since that info wasn't even available on Discogs, etc.
>>122923067it mostly depends on the contitions.You can find worn-out copies for cheap, but if you want something in really good shape the prices are much higher.Personally, I only search for Mint or Near Mint copies. I'm not interested in owning shitty beat-up CDs.
>>122922516the point is only kpop fans (and some swifties) buy CDs and they don't actually listen to them, see picrel
>>122924018the same reason the glass on a a watch is called a "crystal"
Jewel cases > digipacks, any day.
>>122920169>Why do CDs still exist?did you not notice that they're rapidly declining every year?
CDs were cheap for like 5 years before the execs at Sony realized they could astroturf them into a niche interest market like LPs. Used CDs at Value Village went from a buck to $5–$10 each. Total cunts.
>>122923090not even just reissues, europe & japan have a much bigger used CD market toowhenever i'm looking for something - even local artists - on discogs, i usually have to get it shipped from europe
>>122920169because they can't take away my cd after I already paid for it just because they feel like it
vinyls >>>>>>>>>having physical media is important in case the streaming service I use ever goes to shit
>>122924311On high-end watches it literally is crystal (synthetic sapphire) for scratch resistance. Same stuff as used in phone camera lenses.
>>122924521this is a bad argumentyes streaming is bad because they can take tracks awayno the answer is not buying obsolete fragile crackly plastic that degrades the more you play ithard drives are physical media and anyone who does not realize this is a moron
>>122924320I like thick, high quality digipaks with multiple panels, booklets, slipcases, etc.4 panel digipaks with no booklet are the worst. On top of being very basic, they can easily get damaged, unlike jewel box cds.no, wait, "digisleeve" cds like pic related are actually the worst. Sometimes it's even hard to get the disc out, and it will get scratched over time anyway.
>0101010001001001001001001000010010101110101001010101001010>IMMA FIRIN MAH LAZAHI do wish some CDs from the past were mixed a bit louder. I can't listen to albums between 80s-90s without it being super quiet
>>122924796yeah any sleeve-based cases were by far the worsti do prefer the ring holder on digipaks to the jewel case one that has very breakable teeth>>122925086that's what replaygain is for
>>122925086Turn it up. CDs have literally zero noise floor.
>>122924320>>122924796One of the best digipaks I've ever bought was Death Grips - The Powers That B
>>122920344a lot of CDs have terrible mastering and mixing, and a lot of the time the only listenable versions of certain albums are on vinyl.
i like the ritual of stealing multiple different issues of albums off the internet, comparing, and deleting the inferior versions.
>>122921591>resell the CDs and get your money bacKek good luck with that
>>122920169CD is cheaper, smaller, so easier to storage, and sound quality is superior to vinylVinyl is expensive, takes a lot of space, has worst quality of sound, and the worst of all, it deteriorates very fast. many of the records my father bought in the 70's and 80's are ruined due to having spinned too much. Even a 128 kbit mp3 file sounds better than that shit.CD lasts for centuries. Viny after 40 years is ruined
>>122920169I can't play vinyl records on my car, you boomer wanna-be faggot zoomer.
>>122920169because i like to have my music on me without having to use the internet
>>122923055>Old albums are 10 euros minimumUtter bollocks
>>122929139yes you can, it's called a vinyl rip
>>122929747>vinyl ripa funny thing about vinyl is that unlike CDs, the equipment you use to play it really mattersso you can buy a record and play it on your entry-mid level system OR you could download a recording of that same vinyl being played on someone's $50k turntable/cart/phono/adc setup which will sound way better
>>122929117selling vinyl to get your money back is a tremendous faff for what it's worth. if you think you'll just offload it to a record store be prepared to get offered pennies on the dollar
>>122929119Vinyl lasts hundreds of plays if you keep it clean. Dirt/dust is the biggest enemy of vinyl longevity.
>>122930078Or buy it on CD and get great sound.
>>122920169can you prove that new albums are still being released on CD?
>>122924015i regret it too. traded all my punk cd's back in 2005 in for original pressings of jazz vinyl. there was really rare stuff in that lot of cd's i had collected since the early 90's and i never copied them to my PC.
>>122930510that's definitely the first choice but a lot of stuff is not available on CD
>>122929747Without audiophile / studio grade transfer equipment, CD will always sound better. And you can't "rip" a fuckin record, you make a digital recording. CD is a rip - digital to digital.
>>122924521>vinyls>having *hissss* physical *pop* media *crackle* is *chatter* important in case *skips*
>>122930520Classical labels regularly release on CDs and even SACDs in some cases.
>>122924015>>122930670I must have sold most of my original cds for weed or cigarettes money in the early 2000s, stil have a few and have replaced most that I care about now, by damn i regret it. What i regret more is my dad tossing out his cd collection the last time he moved, no fucking reason and for some reason in all the stressing and packing and moving i didnt even fucking think to take them until a few weeks later when i realized damn wtf is wrong with me.
>>122920169you can play CDs in the car, you can't say the same about vinyl
>>122931029I feel like it's easier to find most stuff on CD than to find really hi-fi vinyl recordings.
>>122929488if you buy new copies it's hard to find classic albums on CD under 10 euros
>>122933777a lot of electronic music is vinyl-only, also anything remotely obscure pre-1982
>>122933350I really don't understand why everyone decided to get rid of their CDs in the 2010's. I mean, I appreciated it because I found a glut of great metal/rock CDs cheap early in the decade. But I never stopped coming home and grabbing an album off the shelf, going to the garage and cracking open a beer. I get records just a bit more, because if you have even a moderate collection, it takes up a lot of space. But with 2 decades of collecting and some 500-ish albums, It takes up 2 shelves on my main bookshelf. They take up less space than books or DVDs.
>>122934457because you can make a bit-perfect copy of the CD and then play it on a much more convenient systemwhy keep the CD around after you have an exact rip? unless it's a CD you really love that has some kind of sentimental meaning
>>122934512Why use my phone/Ipod that I have all my music backed up to at home when the stereo and the CD is right there?
>>122921642>the few release that were never digitizedEvery thrift store in America has releases that have never been digitized or even submitted to Discogs. Every high school's band in America released records every year, and the digitized releases probably outnumber the digitized ones.
>>122929119>many of the records my father bought in the 70's and 80's are ruinedThat's because your father is fucking stupid and has nothing to do with the medium itself
>>122929082Literally this.It does help that autistic fucks at forums like Steve Hoffman like to discuss what the sonically best release of an album is, and you can decide for yourself with some comparisons.And you can find a CD rip or image of even the most obscure shit or japanese limited release on SoulSeek, or technically perfect, high dynamic range needledrops on RuTracker thanks to PBTHAL or Dr. Robert.You get to keep the lossless files for archiving, and then you can convert them to mp3 for portable playback. That way you know exactly how is it gonna sound.Plus, having informed yourself on what the best pressing/release is, you can search and buy the physical copy if you want.
>>122935189>even the most obscure shit or japanese limited release on SoulSeekman i wish, tell that to my 100-item wishlist...
>>122934116>new copiesThat's why you don't buy new copies of old albums.
>>122935620I bet at least 95 of those are actually there, just locked behind a single autist that wants you to find a 1/1 dungeon synth cassette produced by a Norwegian elder a hundred years ago in exchange.
>Audio unavailable in your country>Audio no longer available>Audio doesn't meet our shitass release standards>Audio has been removed due to some despot fuckSuperior in literally every way
>>122920169I like tapes
>>122929021Factually incorrect,1. you're referring to the loudness wars of the 00s when all the engineers got told to crank the gain up past the clipping point. Fair to say that doesn't happen as much anymore.2. the recent-ish reissue of sabbath's Paranoid which I bought ON VINYL, was unlistenable due to the fact they had lazily slapped a mono recording into stereo and then for some reason cut most of the audio in the left channel. Classic vinyls don't have that issue but still always be careful.
>>122938536>that doesn't happen as much anymoreMaybe slightly less common but it's still standard. Look at new releases on https://dr.loudness-war.info/And it's also still common for vinyl releases to be made from better masters.
