Heej Riffs edition
Just like a snake I'm slitheringThrough my world divineAnd like the cat I'm stalkingI'll take your soul and you'll be like mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyPvUIt_YWg
Nico sucks
>>122942635Moped Angel
BLASTINGhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl21ki8YeOU
This is the thread
>>122942736Based and catpilled
Real Thread>>122942633herbs
>>122942749Gay as fuck.Tranime is cringe.
>Exodus and Soulfly next weekCan't wait
How low will Hector stoop to keep his thread alive?
>>122942843His will most likely be deleted only for him to samefag spam this one until it hits bump limit, like every weekend.
>>122942859This.
anyone else notice how Aussie extreme vocalists all have that same little rasp in their upper register
>>122942925It's the ciggies they smoko
>>122942622>Kramer
>>122942922He was watching and waiting for it
>>122942922Cats are the best
>>122942922That cat wasn't protecting though? He was pissed off that he wasn't getting pet and had to take out his rage on something.
AOTY so far?
>>122942720bilbo blastinshttps://youtu.be/VlioJzfrh9o?si=XKEcsevazjVQwgKT
>>122943035Christopher Cross s/t
Any King of the Hill metal
>>122942922>grab em by the pussypussy grabs backhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yev3JqH6TpY
Diaperdookie Poopblaster fucking rules the Finnish black metal scene.
>>122943091from Cali but who cares so was CCRhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P3CQdBlOHC4
What does he listen to?
>>122943175DsO and Gorguts
>>122943180Gorguts is good though
>>122943239Snoreguts is for pansies
>>122943270They have epic riffs
what has white wine Phil been up to these days
>>122943402Touring with Zombietera
Is Ozzy really jewish?
>>122943534Pozzy is a disgrace regardless
The nameless moon presence beckoned by Laurence and his associates. Hector
>>122943562Based Poopzy
>>122943239Only their first couple albums
>>122943605Their entire discog mogs your favorite albums.
>>122943534Metal is jew
>>122943686Based, me too.
people like to say meat and potatoes a lot but exactly what is the meat and what is the potatoes
>>122943850It's what you eat
>>122943534His wife certainly is>Judaism is the only religion I have and the only one I’m comfortable with, says Sharon Osbournehttps://www.thejc.com/life-and-culture/judaism-is-the-only-religion-i-have-and-the-only-one-im-comfortable-with-says-sharon-osbourne-j7i6tum2And this tweet from him.What do you think?Is he a Christian?
>>122944028Ozzy stuck up on all caps lol I’m pretty sure Sabbath are all Christians now
BLASTING
>>122944028Based of Ozzy to BTFO Chudye like that.
>>122943175Jute Gayte
>>122944110
>>122944205Cringe, we hate chuddery here-
>>122944226>chudderyWhat exactly defines chuddery?I often see Burzum being called a racist band but Varg does not have a single racist lyric in his music.
>>122944347When the racist stuff is said or someone in the band is a chudster.
>>122944226Yeah same.
>>122944394The nazi cross on it: not listening.
>>122944370Varg is entitled to his beliefs.And he makes great music.Just saying.
>>122944433He is entitled to my dick in his chudmouth.
>>122944446It seems you are the intolerant one.
I was listening to White Neighbor by Eyehategod
>>122944428Alright so if it just doesn't have anything obvious on the front, you're fine with it?
>>122944473Frankly, I hate anything chudderific.
>>122944491I'll send one of these your way then.
>>122944508Probably a dud.Like you in bed LOL
>>122944525You've used that joke before, or someone has at least.Get some original material.
>>122944545It is a common joke because NSBummers are notoriously gay and bad in bed.
>>122944608That's pretty homophobic of you, bigot.
iiiiiii aaaamthe great mighty poooooooooo
>>122944643Unironically mogs most of metal vocally.
Knocked Loose motherfucker
>>122944745AOTY
>>122944508Hate Forest kicks asshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihYyBmV3W4U
>>122944797More like licks ass, like Shitler did.
>>122944797chud music, won't be listening
I love metal
>>122944825>>122944991We love and support Ukraine here
>>122945028Not the chuddy part.
>>122944797I like their earlier stuff but it can be a bit meh.Hour of the Centaur is one of the best BM albums I've heard though. Just concentrated great riffs and fuck all else
>>122945081All of it is dookie.
>>122945201I disagree.
>>122945347Sorry but you are wrong.
>>122945347>>>/b/>signsWe had this before.
this is a demo I worked on for a few hours today and yesterdayI'm probably not going to publish anywhere, I just did it for funIf anyone does gurgle vox, feel free to do your thing, claim it as your own, whatever.>E STANDARD DEATH METAL NIGGAShttps://voca.ro/11e9G8dolL3M
>>122945361"no u" etc>>122945375u wot
>>122945441based
good lord I'm fucked upFUCKING DWARVES LET'S FUCKING GO, OIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlrXIADuAy4
>>122945423Sounds like me when I poop
>>122945028Z
>>122945483>t
>>122942622Hey guys I thought you were metal not kpop
>>122945507>int%rel.bp-arky-f
>>122945507Metal and Kpop are sister genresKpop is more high test though
>>122944608100% correct
Varg Vikernes about the Early Norwegian Scene gathering in Helvete(direct quotation):>Turns out that, pretty much everybody were so-called "racist", they were anti-immigration, they were pro-nationalist, we cultivated this
>>122945507Its literally one german troon, this is xim >>122945531
>no good DSBM in 2024
Any good yuri metal
>>122946025https://youtu.be/ITkwLoY9F8o?si=R9vncamGykjVcFQd
Lol just as this thread was dying off the jannies come to the rescue to save Sitcompopper her second disgrace as her thread would have died (again) despite making it first.
>the virgin home headphone quiet listener>constantly looking around to see who might be able to hear his music>lowers volume when people are next to him>stammers one word answers when people ask what he’s listening to
>>122946374why would that happen in my home retard
>>122946360You’re not fooling anyone
WE CAN SEE OUR CHAOS IN MOTIOOONN
>>122946455Fooling anyone of what exactly? This shit was literally on page 5 with half the posts as the other thread despite being made first. Last weekend the same thing happened to Trannypopper's thread but no mod came to save it, so it literally page 10'd and died KEK. No one on /metal/ wants these kringepop threads besides one transgender German.
>>122946482true
>>122946360natural selectionbased jannies
>>122945507Its some faggot jannie enabling this tranny faggot behavior. They seethe at the fact that we out bump their gook faggot shit.
>>122946506Natural selection would be kringepopper's thread page 10ing and dying like it does without the unnatural forced moderator intervention.
>>122946519Fascinating. Tell me more hector
>>122946510Yep, been that way for a long time too, I remember when we tried to enforce non shitpost OP's through community driven effort the mods would just come and nuke the on topic threads anyways. The dogshit moderation of /mu/ and 4chan as a whole is a total embarrassment.
>xe does it for free
I have to admit, I don't get what Lemay sees in Porcupine Trees.
>>122946531What would you like to know more about?
If you do an image search for paracletus you see a bunch of gross bugs
Why is hector acting like he's any better than the kpop poster? You're a shitposting spammer no one wants to be here but suddenly the thread quality is important or something
>>122946600Anything
bought 2 kilos of korean bbq flavoured jerky at costco, time to blast some big boy riffs and consume to much salt
>>122945571Artist: DarkthroneAlbum: PanzerfaustSong: Beholding The Throne of Might>And destruction upon the holy man>Who hails a jew
>>122946636That will be $65 plus tax
>>122946631we respect hector here
Hector isn’t here at the moment
Anyone saw that video Trey uploaded recently?
no
>>122942720
>>122946632My plan is to grow enough microgreens in my place to not have to buy veg ever again. Its going to be great. Also I finished listening to Porcupine Trees and now its time to hunt through noise/industrial again. Probably dark ambient as well. First a quick pit stop at this famous album, the title of it is perfect for me.
>>122942622imagine the peej
>>122946746I don't see the correlation, personally..
Varg won, holy shit I'm jelous
>>122946746great record
i'm gonna make the ultimate anti-hectorian album>no dissoshit>no techshit>no solos>no bridges or breakdowns even>all powerchords>blast and skank beats all the way through with no fills>lyrics about LGBT rights in Mexico
>>122947005Isn't this literally describing Queercore LMAO
>>122947063nah because i'm making metal
>>122945347That's one sexy pussy
>>122942622Any Glam bros here? Post Glam.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4j1LtCdww
>>122947153None. They don't exist.
Heeb riffs.
>>122942824Lol
>>122947085If you say so Iass...
>>122946770he's the only black metal artist who truly made it
well, I thought my demo tune was good. I thought the guitar tone made e standard sound lower. suppose you LASSES (I said it) would rather share your own music????????
>>122947357Post your fictional demo
Plz gib recs for brutal slamming death metal, thenk u verry mut
>>122942952kek
>>122943562>Pozzy using a toiletFake news
The Hobbit
>>122947347Fenriz? He can literally do any retarded thing under the sun and people will cheer
Rashomon
>>122947447Led Zeppelin
>>122947452>He can literally do anythingExcept make another black metal album
>>122946708link?i thought his channel was deletedshame as well, he had some good bootlegs and funny schizo videos uploaded there
>>122947516The video got deleted, but it was him threatening to kill himself while fucked up on meth
Last video I saw of Trey he had a bunch of bloody wounds on his arms or something
>>122947373This is the heaviest release of all time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPLXkAdvbak
>>122947366>>122945423i actually already did lame o
>>122947568I agree with this. it's musically, production-wise, vocally, technically fucking insane. yet to be topped
>>122947568>>122947625>4 way splitI'm intrigued.
>>122947536Fuck that's sadDidn't anyone make him to go to rehab after the shit that happened last tour?>>122947553im pretty sure he's been cutting himself since 89
>>122947661All of the bands on it have their own releases that are worth checking out too. But they all knocked it out of the park on this split. I'm partial to Ecchymosis the most for their own albums.
I had no idea Trey Agzathoth was such a psycho. I'm not a MA fan so I don't keep on top of the band's antics or anything.
>>122947609At least someone here can play something, not too bad
Did Louis Cachet enjoy the olimpics opening ceremonry?
This song makes me lose my shit: https://youtu.be/OwG0J78ibMw?si=q6K7O6EgSe70My58>>122947721Defo not. He hates anything even approaching globalism.
>>122947721He actually made fun of the Christian complaining about it on twitter
Kpop is literally one of the most right wing genre
>>122947679>>122947661for me it's bleeding > ecchymosis > dissevered > deusional parisitosisbleeding is best because of simple riffs, lofi sound and unheard of before vocal stylethey're all amazing tho
>>122947749>in my mind it was real
>>122947697thanks bro. just wish I knew how to do vocals. my vox are shit, so they never get finished and stay instrumentals :-(
>>122947568>4 way split>click throughout entire EP>sounds like the same garbage band is playing the entire time. Lol.
TAKE A LOOK TO THE SKY JUST BEFORE YOU DIEIT'S THE LAST TIME YOU WILL
>>122947854go back to burzum, loser
>>122947875No thanks, I would rather listen to Jute Gyte. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpaQcKhKFx4
>>122947910deicide mogs
>>122947922>deicide mogs
>>122947910Not metal. >>>/leftypol/
>>122947922Correct.
>>122947910The "musician" on his Bandcamp has written paragraphs and paragraphs explaining the compositions for his albums.That is just so many light years deep into retardation. It wouldn't matter if he was writing the best music on planet earth, nobody does that unless their music is purely intellectual.Seems like something someone would do who is lacking confidence in their own work.
>>122947910Jute Gyte sucks hector-kun
>>122947984what's wrong with that?
>>122947984>The "musician" on his Bandcamp has written paragraphs and paragraphs explaining the compositions for his albums.I love that, I wish he wrote a lot more tbqh. Like I wouldn't mind reading an entire breakdown note by note. >>122947985Nah. I don't think there is a single bad part of JG besides still making "riffs".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSdRSDarSW8
>>122948047What's wrong with riffs? They're the best part of metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfBmYfnjLho
Good metal to listen to while staring at the hot female Olympians' asses on TV?
>>122948047a riff is just any repeated musical phrase. even mozart has "riffs". if you want zero repetition you would surely enjoy other music much more.
>>122948069https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGye1pK2ysQ
>>122948047>>122948078you know? if this genre isn't for you there is free jazz, noise, free improvisation. that stuff has zero repetition and is completely spontaneous. zero riffing guaranteed. maybe try that? start with albert ayler, thank me later
>>122948062Riffs are the worst part of metal, music should flow and shift, not stagnate and dwell. What is being played matters less than what will come after it, the transitions, development, and movement are what separate great artists vs the hacks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9BZWNBFV1U>>122948078Already discussed this with you, I have very little desire to entertain your inferiority complex. >uhhh that makes no sense!It does, I doubt you can see it.
>>122948140I have never discussed this with you. you're nuts lol
>>122948140>transitions
>>122948147>w*jak>>122948145>wooOOOOooooo look at me I'm a totally new person you've never spoken to on this general with only 3 active postersNGMI Iass.
>>122948158Rage comics are for redditors, faggot. Hence why normies are 'nostalgic' for them.
>>122948047That's like someone holding your hand and reassuring you that you've made the right choice
UNJUSTIFIABLE EXISTENCE KILL YOURSELF NOW
>>122948140>music should flow and shift, not stagnate and dwellSssssssssssssssssssssssssss
>>122948163Redditors stole them from us, they are 4chan culture. Anything is better than j*ks which aren't even just r*ddit, they are f*cebook, they are tw*tter, they are on j*wtube, inst*gram, and every other abominable site. We hate fucking j*ks and fucking fr*gs here, enough with both of them, they should die the r*ddit death they deserve. >>122948168Incoherent post.
why does hector like the gayest, most fartsniffing soi metal ever
>>122948182>lagging behind reading abililty
>>122948182Fuk u sai?
>>122948219
>>122948182Jaks and frogs also started here retard
Wojak came from Krautchan
>>122948140rigid intellectual critical system = doomed to cognitive dissonance + emotional dishonesty
gnaw their tongues
>>122948249Emotional dishonesty about Paracletus
Full of Hell rules.
>>122948249>its all about da soul maneWe hate your rock n roll, we hate the beatles, everything you enjoy we are opposed to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmjtvZv9Es4>>122948234and just like rage comics we should have dropped them the second they became normalfag. Unfortunately the 2016 facebook baldcuck flood from r/the_donald killed the site, now all thats left is j*k and fr*g spam till gook moot forgets this site exists and doesn't pay the bills.
Snorre looks like a faggot
>>122948324Did trannypoper wake up or something?
>>122948324Snorre is based if you ask me
>>122948324and is one>>122948313jaks are only now becoming normalfag. 2016 pepe popularity doesn't count because he became a cultural icon
>>122948313I like jute gyte, also i like 93696 and filosofem and svitlana and anime pictures!
tim henson... my beloved...
>>122948353We know hector
>>122948353>>122948362Oops meant to say I didn't like jute gyte, and also I'm trans and balding.
Hellhammer
>>122948361the best rawrjob I ever had
>>122948378what's a rawrjob?
>>122948370Based. I need some recs for bands that do that sound. I already listened to Warhammer (a band whose entire MO is aping Hellhammer)'s entire discog and I NEED MOAR.
>>122948386>hes never gotten a rawrjobNGMI Iass.
Minimalism reigns supremest.
>>122948412>MinimalismHated here. The p*nk of classical.
>>122948432/metal/s GOAT adam kalmback loves minimalism tho.
i was listening to a jewy guty ambient album at 2x speed and didnt even realise until 5 songs in
For anyone who thinks they can make fun of Adam Kalmbach you should listen to this firsthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRe8NpF2W8A&list=OLAK5uy_nNd7cyQLsgfAAnHe4EfawQjAbGuFUOpbU
>>122948454He is a temporary great, in time he will fade for his love of minimalism in the same way Hasjarl will for his love of rock n roll. He could have written a proper atonal metal fugue instead peaking with minimalist ideas. What could have been...
>>122948495Fire
>>122948495Peak of metal.
>>122948351Was he a buddhist? is this how one can achieve inner dissonance?
>>122948495>Idea A, repeat a number of times, then idea B, unrelated to idea A, repeat a number of times, then idea C, unrelated to idea A or B, repeat a number of times, then idea D, unrelated to ideas A or B or C, repeat a number of times, etc.Worst compositional style, hardly a thought given to structure or flow at all. It's more of a compilation of unfinished ideas rather than a song.Some of the ideas are decent on their own, but they're not developed at all, and go nowhere.And you can get away with it in Black Metal because 'it's suppose to sound bad'No wonder he's so prolific, he doesn't put any effort into composition.
>>122948619>unrelated to idea A,NGMI Iass.
Was he the Adam Kalmbach of his time?
>>122948623>stubs showingKek pure rhetoric as always.
>leave /metal/ for a few months>come back>Hector is still sucking off Jute GyteCool. Guess I'll leave again.
>>122948682>gatekept by hULTRA FILTERED
>>122948642cope
>>122948653>was some untalented punkfaggot making lowbrow garbage in his bedroom the adam kalmbach of his timeNo.
>>122948653who is that baldbro
>>122948653ildjarn makes great punk rock
>>122948714>reclusive forest dwellers>make music no one cares about>"but it's le deep!">metal is le bad, time to start making ambient noisesJust waiting for Adam's "Jute Gyte is Dead"
>>122948728Incoherent post.
>>122948495Sounds like someone added distortion to a cartoon character playing the violin badly
>>122948748just think about it a little bit more And it makes sense
>>122948753Illjarn is just a repackaged Von. Untalented, uneducated, making punk garbage. Adam Kalmbach has no equal in metal, his sound is literally entirely his own and comes from an educated background on music. Feel free to post some other metal artists writing atonal canons if you think you can. This comparison is incoherent and you are stupid.
>>122948761You're really autistic aren't you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXp2iSM_HpI
>>122948797Autism is the natural state of the European man.
>>122948803what about Aspergers?
>>122948812Not a real diagnosis anymore.
>>122948893who's this balding fellow with the based T-shirt
>>122948893Shaxul is literally the personification of baldcuckery. Hasjarl must have been desperate to play with such a retard, thank god he left the band of his own free will.
Hirilorn supposedly ended because "Sinn and Yohann have betrayed and humiliated Hirilorn by taking part on a hard-core recording" [Source: Hirilorn/Nasav CD booklet]I can see you look up to him a lot
>>122948926Based Hasjarl putting punkfaggots in their place.
>>122948797Correct.
Darling symph sisters and fellow Disney adults, what are we listening to this evening?Album of the year?https://youtu.be/aPU4BEyD4g4
Lemon Demon
>>122948893>>122948908>>122948943Shaxul DsO slaps desu
>>122948975This, except the exact opposite.
>>122948972Not metal. Not even close
>>122949023>dissoshit is on the hitler axisULTRA BASED.
>>122949031Calm down little /pol/ly wolly
Lemon Demon is hot garbage
for me its dissodiaper
>>122949023What's in top left?
>>122949070Voivod.
>>122948972 Literal dust-bin of music. Not even close to metal
Bottom left Dissection
>>122949142who cares
>>122948950Do not offend my sensibilities ever again
any disneydisso?
>>122949220Inquisition might fit that
>>122949170I do, this manifold is comedy gold spliced in with some /myguy/ moments. >Even those few metalheads I’ve been in contact with over the years believe I’m an ok guy and hardly a threat with anyone. I guess its partly because I’ve never tried to act mean and intimidating. People have believed I was either one of them or an average Joe. Foolish beings!Straight up comic villain KEK. THE FOOLS.
>>122949252Lel
>>122944745I get that they're popular now and it's annoying but the lyrics on their last album genuinely hurt my feelings
>>122949252>they dont know im hiding muh power lever!>literally never does anythingmany such cases
have a good night metalheads
Inquisition has some pretty cringe disney craphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JThZKoSwkU&list=PLArAJlC1y5590A35xiXzg9JMcvZuFzOOy&index=9
>>122949325I thought you would post something from their newest album, but this is even worse lmao.
>>122949325the vocalist sounds like a retard kek
>>122949070Also Averse Sefira would work.
>>122949302How people see me:>>122948351Pic related is who they don't know they're messing with
>>122949302> egans hailing the true beasts of this world are not on my wanted-list, and in addition there may lie some other extremely few worthy, two-legged creatures out there, although I can never fully respect people who eat meat. Call it some kind of alliance, you kill some of mine; I’m in my full right to kill you. Its only fair. My time has been, and as long as I don’t meet anyone when out in nature. I don’t care about much else.>Meat needs a lot of time to digest, and some of it actually stays undigested until you dieGuy is a total vegan nutcase kek, some of the shit he spews is ridiculous. I've never understood these animal loving kooks myself. Guy spends so much time talking about wanting to evil but spreads this talk about loving animals, his talks about being betrayed and the rest are clear signs of someone who probably is actually someone who cares alot about others.Did he ever state literally a single evil action he did besides fuck whores and "congoloids"?
>>122949470nah hes just le heckin misanthrope
>>122949470He larps as some kind of shaman who channels the power of the animals
What kind of metal does picrel listen to?
metalheads
>>122949023What goes in quadrant III?
>band decides to have clean vocals because one of the guitarists thinks they can singEvery time
>>122949668We don't discuss that here.
>>122949494>>122949499I like some of his takes though>The black metal scene of Norway has become accepted and even considered part of mainstream culture. Shouldn’t this scene be intimidating and awake some fear? It has evolved into pop music, featured on the charts and for everybody to “enjoy”. Extreme metal has considerable amount of playing time on Norwegian national TV. Sorry, but chart music can hardly be considered black metal. At least, it is a negation in itself. And don’t think that the huge masses being subjected to this phenomenon will follow evil in any way; it just destroys the music, not its listeners.The one thing I'll say about Ildjarn's music is that its basically whatever Fenriz pretended his garbage was, this is the "primitive" black metal in its purest form while Trannyvanian Hunger was literally just protoshoegaze.Anyways, Ildjarn's personality is that of a naive guy with a good heart who actually believed the black metal garbage and also probably just had some bad personal relationships with others. Clearly a total kook in regards to the vegan/animals thing, I'm not sure how pushy he is in real life about this, I wonder if hes an annoying dishonest moralfag about it like some of the worst Vegancucks are. Most of his thoughts are poorly made and obvious delusions anyways, like parading around his hatred for everyone and never wanting to deal with them, yet publishing this manifesto and also selling his cd's to others (while also admitting it would be less contradictory if he had never published them).He's probably cool in my book, I like people who wear their hearts on their sleeves, honest in a way you won't find with many. Certainly the type who I imagine has a hard time fitting in with the modern cuckoldry of current life, and those are all /myguys/, we love weird people who don't fit in. Might actually trick myself into liking his music.Also crazy how you can quote a musician and get banned for it >>122949142, quality fucking mods.
>>122949023why do you always have to use derogatory words
>>122944745>why did you you leave?>I feel like I've failedI haven't felt that since the Christian metalcore movement in the late 2000's
>>122942622Heej is good guitarist, okay?https://youtu.be/GYao-8rowck?si=Zsqd8d2HuUrnqb8w
>>122949023what is disneyslop ?
Good metal for getting high in the dark?
I tell me black metal friends i listen to kpop to piss them off
>>122942720>RIDE THE BLACK MACHINEwhat they mean by this
Listening to this right now, pretty good>>122949838Earth 2: Special Low Frequency Version>>122949857Based>>122949859I think they're telling you to ride a black machine of some sort
>>122949668>>122949096
>>122949726Yes we do
>>122949880>Earth 2: Special Low Frequency VersionFucking based. I meet your rec and raise you picrel:
>>122949859In case you had any doubts they were american
>>122949929Doesn't exist.
>>122949929manowar
>>122949929judas priest
>>122949929https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bLmgUgPR58
new>>122949972>>122949972
>>122949939post evidence
>>122943562yeah cuz you say so....
>>122945531>Metal and Kpop are sister genres
>>122947984the opposite actually.
>>122949929kittie
>>122949732>Might actually trick myself into liking his music.And here it is. Your contrarianism. The other day I said you are going to listen to and enjoy the worst garbage because it's not popular, and you demanded examples, remember?
>>122949721https://voca.ro/1i6ctgLEfBjK>band decides to have opera vocals
>>122951232>>122951257>And here it is. Your contrarianism. Totally incoherent, nothing in my post was about being contrarian. Apply yourself.