Shostakovich Editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lydTIHUvTkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45uCQuIkF_E>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFhprevious thread: >>123056250
now playingstart of Symphony No. 5, Op. 50, FS 97:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2IzvzDLS6U&list=OLAK5uy_m7KebGr5ce-SAQN82D9Fwcj2HR3GuBGF4&index=2start of Symphony No. 6, FS 116, "Sinfonia semplice":https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-efCHIwyH5A&list=OLAK5uy_m7KebGr5ce-SAQN82D9Fwcj2HR3GuBGF4&index=8https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m7KebGr5ce-SAQN82D9Fwcj2HR3GuBGF4Maybe I'll listen to Shosty's masterpiece Piano Quintet after this in honor of the thread.
How Mozart Became A Bad Composerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wLMdi8R4qgMozart, Piano Concert Nr 24 c Moll KV 491 Rudolf Buchbinder Piano & Conducterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POWVTXuB68I
>>123084066gould ghouls are truly some of the funniest people in all of classical music, even if they don’t realize it
>>123084066so true
Now Playing - Guitar Recital: Goran Krivokapichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaxzb0eD4g0&list=OLAK5uy_mG0wUx8j_UJ3-KLlTUywYeHaYZgJA0PME&index=10
Mozart and Schoenberg together at last -what a truly bizarre idea for an album
>>123084095the Sacred AND the Propane
>>123084095FVS and SVS.
>>123084105who knew that schoenberg was hank hill all along
More like Mozshart
Respighihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok6JZDX523A&list=OLAK5uy_kRcji-aWL0acfm6yBd7JYhjHfUp7nijnQ
>>123084403Young Stephen Hawking didn't like Mozart either?
Bach BWV 666https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U53wlsIq5As
>>123084263https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHghdD6y160Includes choral music by Schoenberg himself after the clip
Just took two Benadryl to try and fix my sleep schedule, as I napped several hours earlier today. What should I listen to while trying to sleep in like an hour? Rachmaninoff's piano works? Some cantatas?
>>123084428I thought he was from the baroque era.And that made me think how the biggest italian composers after the classical period focused on operas rather than chamber or orchestral works.
>>123084737Don’t take too many of those or Mozart will start to sound like Schoenberg
>>123084994lol
>>123084066>How Mozart Became A Bad ComposerLiterally starts with except for all the things that make music good the C Minor Concerto is bad actual reddit tier arguing.
>>123084024That fugue is bonkers
>>123085212https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f2Ydkhj8hQ&t=90
Mozarthttps://youtube.com/watch?v=up4_6UKrcxE
Which is better, Concerto or Symphony?
>>123085717Symphonic Poem
>>123085717Music drama
>>123085717Concertos.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNfpMRSCFPE
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qku2K6vbQtM&t=560
>>123085734>>123085834Im talking absolute music, romatic sisters
>>123086015fine, symphonies then.
>>123086015Prelude and fugues.
>>123086039Contrarian take.
>>123086086I stand by it.
>>123086096Name a good prelude and fugue that wasn't by Bach, if you truly think it was such a great form for absolute music that got totallg unfairly abandoned in the classical period.
>>123086279https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMdJuRk6aOcBOOM
WTF? It's good. Not taking /classical/s word on anything again.
>>123086279https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wr4UjW6vGKgnow fuck off.
>>123086340>>123087420Both inferior to any sonata form piece.
>>123087497why not both?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX_hZPRRERA
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CclQ1tGmGws
any more pieces like this?>>123086007
Rameau https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kO3zcbIFRVM
>The most tremendous genius raised Mozart above all masters, in all centuries and in all the arts. A light, bright, fine day this will remain throughout my whole life. As from afar, the magic notes of Mozart's music still gently haunts me. He is the highest, the culminating point that beauty has attained in the sphere of music as for one moment in the history of music all opposites were reconciled; all tensions resolved; that luminous moment was Mozart.>Mozart creates music from a mysterious center, and so knows the limits to the right and the left, above and below. He maintains moderation. It always sounds unburdened, effortless, and light. This is why it unburdens, releases, and liberates us. He never abandons himself to any one sense; even at his most ecstatic moments his mind is vigorous, alert, and on the wing. He dives unerringly on to his finest ideas like a bird of prey, and once an idea is seized he soars off again with an undiminished power. It does not give the listener time to catch his breath, for no sooner is one inclined to reflect upon a beautiful inspiration than another appears, even more splendid, which drives away the first, and this continues on and on, so that in the end one is unable to retain any of these beauties in the memory. It is particularly difficult to perform.
>His admirable clarity exacts absolute cleanness: the slightest mistake in it stands out like black on white. It is music in which all the notes must be heard. Free of all exaggeration, of all sharp breaks and contradictions. The sun shines but does not blind, does not burn or consume. Heaven arches over the earth, but it does not weigh it down, it does not crush or devour it. Easy to read, but very difficult to interpret. The least speck of dust spoils them. They are clear, transparent, and joyful as a spring, and not only those muddy pools which seem deep only because the bottom cannot be seen. His simplicity is merely purity. It is a crystalline thing in which all the emotions play a role, but as if already celestially transposed. Moderation consists in feeling emotions as the angels do.>Mozart makes you believe in God because it cannot be by chance that such a phenomenon arrives into this world and leaves such an unbounded number of unparalleled masterpieces. It represents neither the prolonged sigh of faith that characterizes so much of the music written before his time, nor the stormy idealism which cloaks most music after him. Rather he is that mercurial balance of the skeptic and the humane. Like him, and in him, we can always discover new worlds.- Maho Hiyajo
>>123088176>>123088188have you considered reading an actual textbook about music?
>>123087343We love Chopin here. Especially his Ballades.
>>123088298I did.
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7NmiM019pg
>>123088298have you considered not evading your ban, porn addicted pedophile kraut?
>>123089106
>>123089115hilariously feeble, chomo germ
So which Mozart and Haydn symphonies are actually worth listening to? 25, then 35+ for the former, 96+ for the latter?
>>123090263The majority of Haydn's symphonies are worth listening to.
>>123090273But there's over a hundred!
>>123090292Well, Haydn more or less invented the classical symphony as it's usually understood. If it makes it easier, there are selections of the symphonies conventionally organised under the three headings of the Sturm und Drang symphonies, the Paris symphonies, and the London symphonies, and these make a good starting point.
>>123090330Yeah I've only heard the London ones. Any recommended recordings for a set of the other two?
>>123090338I recommend just looking up the symphonies concerned and listening to them off Dorati's complete Haydn symphonies which is a great baseline set of pretty uniform quality. Scherchen's Haydn is great and distinctive and covers a range of the Haydn chronology but the sound is not always great. There are of course HIP choices in Harnoncourt and Bruggen but they come with the usual caveats about HIP.
>>123090338Bernstein (yes, really)SzellHarnoncourtScherchenWoldike BeechamRosbaud
>>123090423>>123090440Thank you very much.
>>123090505*sister
>>123089106Diligent work canny tranny janny
Debussy>Liszt>Chopin
>>123091027obsessed as always, schizophrenic ESL
>>123091047>>123091047A Chopin's Ballade is worth more than everything by Debussy and Liszt, altogether.
>>123089106hey at least he's not post random fucking notes/chords that sound awful when played.
>leave for a month>come back>same fucking spammers and posting the same fucking shit stillI know this is thrown around as an insult to the point of meaninglessness but I seriously can't see you people ever getting laid holy shit
>>123091279that doesn’t make him any less of a mentally ill pedophile, and it’s only a matter of time before he posts that garbage again anyways
>>123086039What's the relation between a prelude and a fugue?
>>123091430You sure seem to like accusing others of paedophiia-a guilty conscience perhaps, TJ?
>>123091920not at all, just stating the truth. https://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/122901034/#122918033
>>123092024I think that was a joke.
>>123092076ah yes, he was merely joking about being a pedophile and grooming kids, very normal humor.
>>123092083For 4chan it's pretty common, yeah
>>123092024>>123092076>Autistic tranny jannies unable to detect obvious sarcasm and other news at ten
>>123092093then i guess i'm just joking about calling him a pedophile and him being a mentally ill ban evading freak. >>123092096>i was merely pretending to be a pedophile!the absolute state of literal schizophrenics
>>123092101>someone makes a very obvious joke and you insist on pretending they were serious to score a 'victory' The absolute state of literal schizo tranny jannies
>>123092160>it was a joke i swear! i only groomed kids on discord for a joke! tell that to the judge, schizo chomo.
Where do they even find these tranny jannies? Shaking my head
>>123092299where do they even find these schizophrenic pedophile apologists? probably on discord
>>123092323You don't need to respond to literally every post TJ
>>123086007>>123088110Seconding this. Bartok's Piano Concertos are a triumph of music imaginative power, I guess I shouldn't be surprised if there's nothing else really like it.
>>123092382you don’g need to respond to literally every post i make, obsessed pedophile apologist
>>123092450>he still responds with a basic no uVery childish snide sister
>>123092554>he still respondsvery childish, obsessed pedophile apologist
>The tranitor is still going
>the obsessed pedophile apologist is still going
>The obsessed tranitor is still de facto responding
Can you two please stop shitting up every single thread
Ooft that's some gory looking sheet music
>the obsessed pedophile apologist is still de facto responding>>123092645looks like the composer didn't get the memo that it's time to change key signatures.
>>123092660that composer? Gustav Mahler.
>>123092793which mahler piece is written for piano solo again?
now playingstart of Cantata for the 20th Anniversary of the October Revolution, Op. 74:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQsdWJoO9jo&list=OLAK5uy_kzk-X859GmwuqUJBdrrCzKT1sCvOu1jXk&index=1https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kzk-X859GmwuqUJBdrrCzKT1sCvOu1jXk
Now Playing - Mozart: Laudate Dominumhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsh4hRNBv2Y&list=OLAK5uy_m-o1TD01PdDDnFtemV65bP95yjdE9ZlOs&index=14
mo'shart
>>123091425Dont care about getting laid, im not a woman
>>123093319>>123093351thank you pedophiles
>>123093319damn the tranny janny shows their true colors
How do I learn how to talk about Classical Music better than I like this and I don't like this. I've been listening to classical music for around 2 decades and I wish to learn more.
>>123093432typical schizophrenic behavior from the obsessed pedophile apologist
Prelude and Fugue in C Shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QryLtzSb2_MSo far so good. It wouldn't surprise me if these turned out to be better than Bach's
>>123093438read critics reviews to sound extra irritating
>>123093474actually delusional
>>123093459>The Tranny Janny is themselves a paedophile and accuses others of being paedo apologists to cover their own tracksMany Such Cases
>>123093513wow, you really showed by screenshotting this anonymous post. way to go, obsessed pedophile apologist.
Tchaikovsky: Dumka, Op. 59https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLSgzoRAnqYI'm not going to tell you who's playing it because you don't need to know that information
>>123091425>getting laidEveryone here and their virginity was taken violently when they heard Pilgrim's Chorus for the first time. Get you facts straight.>>123093351Exactly. Sex is just too boring.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u99f9RAvwu4
>>123093527I don't see a denial, just an attempt at obfuscation
>>123093546what is there to deny, that an anonymous post with no relation to me whatsoever is obviously not mine? you suck at this, obsessed pedophile apologist.
>>123091425the brain rot is real across most boards or maybe /g/ in particular. being a genius helps fall into midwit traps for extended periods of time because i'll get my things to >99% of perfection and i'll have enough knowledge to know where i'm at so that i can move on to the next thing that will make an actual improvement to my life
Please can one of you show the necessary restraint and stop spamming replies.
>helps *avoid* falling into midwit traps
>>123093560Clearly edited, nice try
>>123093664please tell me how to edit the 4chanX post borders identifying my own posts and replies to my posts so i can use it to shitpost in the future.
>>123093679Easily done
>>123093755show me how to do it in 52 seconds.
Would you count Hans Zimmer as a classical composer?
>The tranny now deletes their original post to hide the evidence
Passacaglia and Sarabande for Violin and Viola (With Variations on a Theme by Handel)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ut2jbALbNc
>>123093844not /classical/, try >>>/mu/ instead>>123093856why didn't you respond to >>123093757, obsessed schizophrenic? aren't you so fond of replying to every post i make?
>>123092866>cantata>it's orchestralHmmm...
>>123093844no, not really
Dukashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P60z7m7RhE8&list=OLAK5uy_kM9P0Ve0ddPj3h4cGWTl6dU93gPDenT_A
>>123093890You're obsessed, creepy janny. How do it in 52 seconds? Just do it fast that's how. Not an obstacle at all, especially not to one well versed in lies and obfuscation. The fact that you did it so quickly is testament to your skills at deception
>>123094018you can't even show me how to do it period, nevermind in less than a minute. you're full of shit, pedo apologist. give up.
Aguilera de Herredia: Registro baixo de 1er Tom Duet for Organ and Duckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaMu5JOG2fs
>>123094037I could I just don't feel like it-I don't you think your subterfuge should be rewarded you're the one who needs to apologise for your paedophilic behaviour
>>123094149you can't and you won't because you're a subpar concern troll unwilling to put in a modicum of effort to keep the bit going.
>>123093574
Now Listening:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KogIxfV9Rk
yeah, that's what i thought, tranime faggot
Can we pretend that this thread at least pretends to be about Classical music? If I wanted to call everyone in the thread a fucking tranny I'd be on /pol/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWyNbCRgU6Enice playing, if a bit heavy handed
>>123094168All buzzwords there's no bit apart from disgust at a pedo apologist
>>123094378boring. put some effort into it, loser.
>>123094393That's so rich coming from you
>>123094408i'm not the one stupid enough to make claims i can't deliver on. that's the difference between you and me.
>>123094419You do actually constantly , in this very thread in fact
>>123094459link to a single post doing so.
>>123094469Apart from all the times you accuse people of being paedophiles and or paedophile apologists?
>>123094489i have a link to an archived post by the kraut's tripcode admitting to pedophilic behavior, and i have people excusing it as a "joke" on absolutely no grounds. what else is that other than pedophilia and pedophilic apologism respectively?
>>123094378>>123094393>>123094408>>123094419>>123094459>>123094469>>123094489>>123094501not /classical/ try >>>/pol/ instead
>>123094501you mean the post you made using my tripcode which you found here?https://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/122901034/#122901861
>>123094584why would i have your tripcode, you delusional retard? stop trying to make this all about people persecuting you.
>>123094595
>>123094610retarded fucking pedophile kraut copping out as usual
Beethoven Pathetique Piano Sonata no.8, op.13 ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpImPsVPteA
>>123088176>>123088188He has an unmatched capacity to be truly boring
>>123093920The vocals are in the other parts of the playlist! I knew this might happen lol
>>123093920>>123094762For example, the next track:https://youtube.com/watch?v=jTQTii2OGPo
>put on Bach cantata>glorious, divine, and beautiful chorus opening>next movement begins>boring ass male vocals soloevery time
Music of Changes Book 1John Cagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPGxiWssKbI
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwZsrmxaAUU&t=307
>>123094934never post here again.
>>123094948It's based on the I Ching John Cage - Sonatas and Interludes for prepared pianohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X990zJyVguc
>>123094934based i love Cage
>>123095021It belongs in the trash thats what it is.
>>123094834some of them are alright, but what do you expect from a church servicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLnsj6SUeCE&list=OLAK5uy_mAJ46bDD8kVaIQVZQyIRZNMRQXyW_fn6I&index=4
>>123094934>>123095021do RYMsisters really
>>123095027Try the Sonatas for prepared piano-you might like it
>>123095350no thanks RYMsister
>>123095382For all you know it's your favorite piece of music and you don't know it yet
>>123095421laughably delusional, RYMsister
>>123095481This is a mischaracterisation of John Cage's music. These are top rated classical albums by Rate Your Music-John Cage is not in the top 100https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/all-time/g:classical%2dmusic/
Philp Glass Anthem Part 1:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfcR_5lEKaE2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt94TsQvEyUand 3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idwx9tcOWug
>>123095540thank you RYMsister
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNYMQU0Hi60&list=OLAK5uy_kTdtm12faTpFcfbVE0mZFyKKBUxK2bJzA&index=1https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kTdtm12faTpFcfbVE0mZFyKKBUxK2bJzA
>>123095664its a good piece
>>123095664That album is actually variations on Beethoven's boogie-woogie from the 32nd
>>123095664>thinking RYM can differentiate between jazz and classicallmao
>>123095703how so
>>123095709I'm kidding, anon
>>123095703there is nothing boogie woogie about continuous rhythmic division of a 9/16 rhythm
>>123095706Jazz is a type of classical
>>123095747not /classical/, try >>>/mu/ instead
>>123095737At the school I went to, the 32nd was sometimes referred to as the 'Proto-Jazz Sonata' by the music faculty
>>123095350i listened to it came away thinking john cage and 90% of composer's composing after 1950 ought to have been drowned at birth.
>>123095747classical music has form. jazz does not.
>>123095773you must have went to berklee or a similarly retarded school, i can't imagine any serious conservatory being able to come up with such an uninformed opinion>>123095784put your trip back on, pedo kraut
Huge Wang Philip Glass Etude no 6https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJkeKmtLnDY
>>123095601>If you liked the Saint-Saens 3rd, Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique, or anything of the "excessive" romantic reportoire, you shouldn't miss this work.Considering I really like those symphonies, and am really enjoying the Faust Symphony right now, what other works would fall under this umbrella that I may have missed?
>>123095797Again I'm just yankin' your chain, anon
>>123095823you jest, but there are probably music teachers out there stupid enough to believe that sort of thing.
>>123095844maybe they know something you dontmaybe their categories arent so rigid as yours
>>123096053maybe they're just fucking wrong and retarded and musically illiterate like a good percentage of music teachers (especially non-classical ones) today. i'll go with that one.
>>123096068maybe youre rightbut i wonder how good your music must be for you to speak so arrogantly
>Thanks to Chandos's ravishing sonics, the recording is sumptuous in terms of color and timbre -- you can smell the fumes of an Oriental houkah in the sinuous Larghetto.Well I've gotta give this a try then
>>123096068from my point of view you are musically illiterate, TJ. what is it they say about glass houses?
>>123084024Why people hate Sibelius?
>>123096107good enough>>123096119dave hurwitz must be the only person on this planet who thinks that chandos records have good production. >>123096124you left your tripcode on you fucking retard AHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>>123096138yes.
>>123096160thanks for admitting that you did indeed post about grooming kids as a "joke" here >>123092096fucking chomo faggot
>>123096132I don't hate him but his music just isn't for me, I'm not big into what I like to refer to as 'soundscape classical.' I think most people here are fans of at least some of his symphonies, minus sisteranon, obviously
get a room you two
>>123096181the only room the pedophile kraut needs is a jail cell
Time to embark on...
>>123096204The best cycle. Single-handedly convinced me Linz version was the best one for the First
>>123096236Glad to hear!
>>123096204get ready for the snooze of a lifetime>>123096236do people really care that much about editions for the first? it's really just minor differences in orchestration.
The magnificently named Vikingur Olafsson plays Philip Glass
>>123096265agreedgreat namei really like his performance of prelude and fugue in C minor BWV 847
>>123096264I though that too, but it really does sound nicer
>>123096107They'll never post it though so you just have to trust them
>>123096300true
>>123096294i've personally never cared. the huge structural differences in the different editions of the 4th and 8th are way more important to me. >>123096300>>123096308if i wanted to shill my music i'd go to one of the various dedicated shill your own music threads on this shitboard. why the fuck does my composition in my own time have any bearing on the topic of this thread (classical music discussion)?
Verdihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2-4zsQlP3E
>>123096300wrote and recorded this little piece this morning, pls no bullyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMQTm8zxJ9Y
>>123096338I hear ya sister
>>123096349Gorgeous
>>123096369Thanks sis
npAnyone else here a fan of Mendelssohn's oratorios? First time listening to this, love de Burgos' recording of Elijah. Also added recordings of this by Helmuth Rilling and Herreweghe (aka ostensibly both ends of the spectrum). Shame the Masur one isn't on YouTube Music.
>>123096519If anyone wants a little sampling:Opening overture:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ROeQcNsC3E&list=OLAK5uy_kKJBfX0MqMY2JmS9wGpV3QcOW_Qy9h6Xo&index=2Opening chorus:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjlhuQ0bQqs&list=OLAK5uy_kKJBfX0MqMY2JmS9wGpV3QcOW_Qy9h6Xo&index=3
>>123096519older recordings, shame they didn't recorded more or they recorded it on english for some reasonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEnkSbWAj74&list=OLAK5uy_nYFrnNwAylGIaZZSTlsfClAEzsNJ9zKu0&index=7https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ2oFCZymoU&list=OLAK5uy_ndTQ_NC1tGhC04Z-PSc5izXs8I05zGfGQ&index=4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx5EF35R2LE&list=OLAK5uy_ndTQ_NC1tGhC04Z-PSc5izXs8I05zGfGQ&index=5https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX-wwiTZrnw
>>123096695Neat stuff, thanks for sharing!
Sisterkovich
>>123096833more incel music than tranny music
Love it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rub5Ts9KSY
>>123096753yeah, you can find good singing if you look deeperhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyuRoSOPFq8
Was he the Andy Warhol of music?
>>123097147no, at least andy warhol was a good dresser. cage is just a faggot.
>>123097147yes. I hope he is in hell.
>>123097167l0l
Why isn't vaughan williams liked by the critics?
>>123097147I wouldn't say so, since his music really is trendy or anything. A lot of the Aleatoric stuff is just unlistenable makes Schoenberg seem...less shit. He has some at least one nice piece I've heard, but I think he's more famous for being crazy and out there than actually enjoyed and listened to . Andy Warhol made pop art, that's nothing if not accessible. Maybe he's more like the Mark Rothko of music
>>123097147Shitakovsky
>>123097333Vaughan Williams deliberately avoided writing music influenced by Teutonic culture and therefore anything of quality. If the Germans invented sliced bread, he would have refused to buy it out of spite.
>>123097438German bread is organic, French Bread is ornamental
>>123097438The Germans gave us Schoenberg who gave us the fucking mess we are (hopefully)just emerging from,
Glen Gould discussing his love for audienceshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nZTgAGSajA
>>123097438I think my favourite composers are all anything but German
These covers man... should buy these in vinyl and hang 'em on the wall
>>123097587gtfo and never come back.
>>123097572Gould was a retarded autistic snob. Imagine caring about anything he said.
>>123097587average slaveslopper>>123097612sounds like the musical version of a college dorm with the kiss hung up
>>123097587Average Based French appreciator
>>123097861pretty much the entirety of french music is indebted to german music, much like how the entirety of french dress is indebted to the british.
>>123084024What does /classical/ think about Hillary Hahn?
>>123097877ive only listened to her performance of bachs chaconnei thought it was a bit low energyi like julia fischer much more
>>123097877Solid but never the best for recordings. Can't go wrong listening to one hers, though.
>>123097918I love her version of Mendelsson's Violim Concerto, but I have the same impression that her Brahm's is kinda boring. So my feelings are mixed
>>123097877>>123097918>>123098071>>123098080Hillary Hahn is easily the WORST professional violinist on the stage today. Yes, she has "rhythm", if by rhythm you mean making as close to an approximation of an atomic clock as possible. Her playing is sterile, without interpretation, says nothing except "these are the notes". She has no rubato, takes no time and gives no time. It is like listening to a human computer play what should be organic music. It's like putting a simple midi of Mozart's facile sonata in C major through a self playing piano and saying "this is Mozart". it is the OPPOSITE of real music, pure garbage.
>>123097874laughable German cope
>>123098084So she plays the music like the composer wrote it?
>>123098177frenchoids basically haven’t invented anything other than gay revolutions and perfume
>>123098204Impressionism was good though.
>>123098259didn’t ask, pedo kraut
>>123098339schizophrenic post
>>123098368pedophilic post
Please listen to the first movementhttps://youtu.be/H0x_dCrKd4w?si=ER47pr1s-1Eog0Y5
>>123098388Okay, then what? Are you getting a referral fee?
>>123098370Nonsensical reply
>>123098423pedophilic reply
>>123098437
Apologies for the recent Levine spam but this is a great set! >>123098388 made me wanna listen to the 39th/K.543. Now to try his Mahler...
>>123098471posting cropped furry porn, chomo germ?
>>123097877I think she has the best Sibelius Violin Concerto recording. I'm not much into anything that isn't piano but I like that one piece.
>>123098969I like the Schoenberg VC on that album more than the Sibelius desu. Everyone except Heifetz plays the Sibelius VC too damn slow
The greatest composers and musicians are German.
>>123099755Mozart was Austrian.
>>123099807If he looks like a german, talks like a german and acts like a german, i'll just consider him german. Besides, all germanics are gvrmans in soul
>>123099835is kafka a german by your standards
>>123099940Well, he was czech wasnt he? Too different genetically
>>123099940Jews aren't German.
>>123100152surefinethough he did look talk and act like a german to some extentdid he not
>>123100283Germans dont have long noses though
>>123099755Also Russian, it's a tie.>>123099807>born in a german family>born on a land that is historically german>b...but it said austrian on wikipedia or something bro!
>>123100366some of them dodont they
>>123099755I think Nordics are the greatest composers.
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYzZVOY2FT4
>>123100399>Also Russian, it's a tie.Kek, you think Bach, Handel, Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven and Wagner are equaled by Glinka, Korsakov, Tchaikovsky, Scriabin and Stravinsky?
>>123100700I don't think, I know for a fact. Also since you listed 6 germans and 5 russians, let us add Rachmaninoff for good measure.
>>123100804let it go, anon. This is not a fight that you can win.
>>123100840>a fight with /classical/ germoid imperialist autistI have won before it even started. Russians are equally great in every regard.
>>123100876ok then who is the Russian equivalent of Beethoven and why?
Any modern composers that arent literal shit and compose absolute music?
>>123100912there are but they are either teachers or in the film industry.
>>123100399embarrassing
>>123100904 Tchaikovsky. They have had similar impact, and legacy, they are both the center of their own cultures. As well as symphonic mastery (different eras, countries, cultures = different music albeit). There are no exact parallels, every composer excels in some genres and not others.
>>123100939humiliating
>>123100938>>123100953Didn't ask, sister.
>>123100939Tchaikovsky's sense of form is inferior to Beethoven's and his counterpoint is second rate.try again.
>>123100958Subjective irrelevancy.
>>123100967then which aspects are not subjective?
>>123100921I said absolute music you asswipe, if its in a film score it's program music
>>123100997besides some people on youtube and musescore, not really.
>>123101015I dont trust your word.
>>123100985Legacy, impact, cultural worth. Both are still played, recorded and loved after hundreds of years.
>>123101025so what you're saying is that any discussion comparing one composer to another cannot use technical skill as a criteria.
>>123101056Of course they can. But they are (mostly) subjective criterias, and those subjective criterias may be objective within a certain context(such as a German culture, or Classical era) but on the whole they remain purely subjective.
>>123101092I give up.
Do you prefer Mozart's symphonies or Concertos?
Thoughts about learning the oboe?My clarinet lessons start in September but the more I listen to music and the more I think about it, the more I realise that even though Clarinet sounds nice, no instrument makes me feel like the oboe does, it’s just so beautiful I know this is the sound I want to make.
>>123101875His last four symphonies trump any concerto he ever wrote.
>>123101894what could have been...
Today on contemporary composers: Eduardo Angulohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UueTkVHJ2I&list=PLccw7AYw1INOPE7t7C5fEw-10uMUgqBx3(note the playlist has the piece as movement 3-1-2 for some reason)
>>123101894His piano concertos beat them honestly speaking.
>>123100668>>123100840>>123100904>>123100921>>123100958>>123100985>>123101015>>123101056>>123101104stop ban evading, pedophile kraut
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>>123103393keep copping out, chomo germ
>>123103341What makes him a pedo anyways? Like i know you clutch pearls at me posting my cute mahos but what'd he do?Also posting some based Böhm to keep it classicalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmd5iNDOXOQ
>>123103684he literally admitted to grooming kidshttps://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/122901034/#122918033he confirmed he did in fact make those posts as a “joke” (and not someone else who hacked his tripcode like he tried to claim earlier) when he accidentally outed himself as the “TJ” spammer>>123092096>>123092160>>123096124
no comment, just wanted to post this album cover that perfectly captures the music
>>123104275i think more austrian countryside and less rampant overgrown vegetation in primordial eden when i hear mahler 4
>>123104287I guess I can see that. Isn't the 4th movement supposed to be a child's innocence and blissful view of the gates of Heaven or something? That's why I think the Eden cover works. Plenty of divine inspiration in the European countryside though, admittedly.
>>123104328yes, but it’s an innocent naive dream of heaven, not a literal or critical interpretation of it
>>123104358Fair, fair. I suppose the 8th would be the literal Heaven.
>>123101875What about operas
>>123104411and even so, there is nothing pastoral or unkempt about the unfiltered transcendent nature of the 8th, so that cover would be even more unsuitable for it.
>>123104508Oh I completely agree, I didn't mean to say that it would be a better cover for the 8th.
Speaking of which, I still don't get what the fuck most of these covers are meant to be
>>123104627That's Neo Rauch, pretty cool desu
>>123104638Thanks! Was wondering what the source of all of them were
>>123104275Damn this was actually a pretty great recording until the 4th movement; not Ameling's best effort.
>>123104646saw an exposition of his once, they're actually huge paintings like 2 or 3 meters tall
>>123104795I'm now imagining the Blu-ray cases for those recordings as also being 2-3 meters tall to maintain fidelity to the artwork. That's really cool though, would love to see them in real life too myself.
let's try
>>123104891They're fairly normal in size actually. I have the whole set.
>>123105343Damn! Nice.
>>123105343Sorry for breaking necks. Also, cool quote about the 9th in relation to the 4th on the inside.
>>123105365Love it, thank you very much. I still need to listen to the 8th from that cycle.
>>123105386Personally I think it's the weakest performance in the cycle. Chailly never really got the momentum and perpetual thrust that the 8th really needs, especially in the second movement. Texturally it's gorgeous though
classical noob here, what are your favourite recordings of beehoven's late string quartets? My first instinct is to get khronos because I remember enjoying some other stuff for them, but maybe there are better options.
>>123105531takacs and petersen
>>123105531Since I'm listening to them right now too, here's a quick link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YytQEjYRdUI&list=PLO6zBTEo45QhwK0K1NWmIDesKrduHficv
no new thread? grim
>>123105470Damn. Yeah I listened to the first movement when I first downloaded the cycle and I switched to a different recording because it didn't sound right, but I kinda wanna give it another try for the sake of completionism and because I quite like the 8th off of his Decca/Concertgebouw cycle.
Can non-piano fags explain to me if they like Chopin and all the other virtuoso slop composers like Liszt, Scriabin etc? If so, why?I'm not trying to be standoffish, I just don't see what's in it for somebody who doesn't understand the nuances of piano technique, especially that found in late Scriabin works. Even I'm too retarded to understand it sometimes, and I've been figuratively getting my holes resized by my (russian) piano teachers since I was 4.
>>123105770there’s nothing in it outside of technical virtuosity, which is why it’s slop
>>123105770Chopin's and Scriabin's piano music are the pinnacle of emotional depth, as well as some very lovely melodies. Liszt to me is less emotional but idiosyncratic and structurally and melodically very interesting. That's why for me at least.
>>123104627It’s pretty ugly and unpleasant I don’t why they used it
>>123105770>>123105973Debussy is better I’m that regard, Philip Glass had some excellent piano work as well
>>123106043Debussy is great but no music has touched and swelled the inner workings of my heart as much as some of the piano music of Chopin and Scriabin.
>Chopin’s music has no humor, except for a certain elegant wit present in some of the preludes and mazurkas. however, the intensity of most of his works, large- scale and miniature, generally surpasses that of all his contemporaries. it is perhaps not hard to pinpoint the source of this extraordinary intensity. it arises from the strange combination, on the one hand, of the techniques he mastered, the long- breathed sustaining of italian melody, supported as no italian opera composer knew how to accomplish, by the contrapuntal texture, and on the other, with the richness and continuous expressive interest of the inner voices that he learned from his study of Bach and Mozart. to this he added his adventurous and radical experiments in chromatic harmony that appalled his contemporaries but were exploited by later generations. rarely disturbed by the ostentatious virtuoso effects of liszt, never diluted by sallies of eccentric humor as in schumann and Berlioz, and never hemmed in by the prudent classicism of Mendelssohn’s art, much of his music has an intense, focused passion hardly ever equaled in the years between Beethoven and Wagner.
Aphex Twin
>>123105577>>123105641thanks anon
Scriabin is great, just listen to thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS5f_f7_7xsnothing to do with virtuosity, just emotionally and melodically a beautiful piece
>>123106713Agreed, one of my favorite works ever
>>123105941put your trip back on, pedophile kraut>>123106152>chopin>contrapuntal texturedo chopincels actually>>123106713vomit inducing
>>123106784Fuckin tranny pedo apologist
>>123105770Chopin is my favorite composer. Scriabin is good too but I prefer Chopin. His music is the perfect combination of virtuosity and emotion, unlike Liszt who mostly wrote music for the sake of being difficult to play. Liebestraum and La Campanella are great but the rest I would consider slop.Even when Chopin wrote super difficult pieces (mostly etudes and ballades lol) they still sound better than anything Liszt ever wrote. Liszt is slop for people that don't care about music that sounds good, they only care about watching elementary aged asian children play difficult pieces.
>>123107076put your trip back on, pedophile kraut>>123107095this is just plain embarrassing, we need to make a separate general for people like you.
>>123107109Threads over pedo apologist tj
>>123107095I find Liszt is more charming and contains more spiritual depth in his piano pieces than you're giving him credit for, but I respect your opinions here.
>>123107095I disagree I don’t think either are ‘slop’ but the criticisms people level against Liszt can all be applied equally to Chopin he might show a smidge more restraint but that’s it . Liszt wrote in my opinion more interesting and beautiful work than Chopin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiwPzHJ-Pic>that coloristic use of harmony in this desecending 7-6 pattern >functional harmony is completely shunned in favor of irregularly placed chromatic passing tones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIkKcUeYZe0>one of the most morbid, eerie and tonally adventurous piano pieces in all of music (begins in an ambiguous e minor/g major, ends in a minor)Only insecure brainlets dislike Chopin desu
>>123105365I'm more surprised to learn that Mehler and Walterberg were contemporaries.
>>123107109>this is just plain embarrassing, we need to make a separate general for people like you.Why? This is the classical general, we are talking about classical music right now.>>123107136I can see why you like Liszt more and I respect your opinion too. I'd be lying if I said I'm not salty that I can't play most of his music though lol.What Liszt pieces do you think have the most spiritual depth? I want to like Liszt honestly.>>123107178I see the comparisons between Chopin and Liszt although I'd say on average Chopin tends to be significantly less virtuostic than Liszt. Also same to you, what Liszt pieces do you think best represent his music? >>123107215A real brainlet thinks the pieces you posted are representative of Chopin.
