Why has prog rock only ever existed for about ten years between 1970 and 1980 (give or take a few years) never to be seen again doesnt matter how many times people tried to rekindle the flame (and what is more, coming mostly from a single island with around 50 million people at the time)?
>>123159519Idk but the 80s were a disaster for music. Though the majority of great prog albums are only from the first half of the 70s.
>>123159519>Why has prog rock only ever existed for about ten years between 1970 and 1980erm no? obviously the genre has mutated into different subgenres and whatnot but there's still plenty of bands worshiping prog rock.
>>123159519There are tons of different modern prog bands you fucking idiot
>>123159519Things come and go OP, prog fulfilled its porpouse>>123160748his point is that it will never be as big as it was
>>123159519Idk this sounds like an uninformed opinion, but I think maybe rock just evolved into something else, like when you listen to something like Spirits in the Material World or Out of Touch by Hall & Oates, I mean even Alan Parsons Project in the 80's wasnt really prog right? It's like rock just evolved into something else, that wasn't prog.
>>123160830>Parsons Project in the 80's wasnt really progWait, yes it was, I suck. nevermind on that
>>123159519prog rock was not for the masses, and not radio friendly, so big music studios started a massive attack on the genre, painting it as pretentious and overblown, as a way to take it downonce it was no longer in the spotlight, it lost a lot of momentum, and talented musicians took their skills elsewherefrankly, it was the logical conclusion to rock music as a genre, the most inventive and interesting it's ever beeneverything that came after it has been nothing but derivative bullshit
>>123159519it has been solved
>>123160826>it will never be as big as it wasBands like Tool, Dream Theater or Mastodon were fairly successful
>>123160826>it will never be as big as it wasNeither will bebop, surf rock, or barbershop quartets. Shit evolves.
>>123161904yep
>>123159519shit music for incels
>>123161929back to rap thread faggot
>>123159519prog is a genre for bands, large bands at that, and nobody wants to pay for a whole band. much cheaper to just have one person and a cast of session musicians. it also needs big touring bands who can make albums that will sell well with a large dedicated fanbase, and labels have little interest in cultivating these niches and they don't make as much money now anyways
No matter how many new progressive rock bands come out, they can't surpass Pink Floyd, King Crimson, and YES.Metal bands were able to innovate one after another after ZEP, Black Sabbath, and Deep Purple with Van Halen, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Guns N' Roses, Slipknot, etc.
>>123159519prog still exists, but also what prog from the period of time you described basically did what it needed to do. it blended a ton of genres and allowed artists to not be so rigid within a genre. the only problem with modern prog, and music in general, is the forgoing of classical theory and basically only trying to make pop radio shit.
>>123159519prog metal mogs low diff
>>123159519maybe just maybe the whole thing sux
>>123161856Prog rock, not prog metal
>>123170208Forgot to mention I'm trans if that matters
>>123169668>forgoing of classical theoryThat's how that early 70s stuff was so good. Neo prog always sounds too slick and dated. It's sad that no one could make an album like Pawn Hearts anymore.
>>123169668Which prog do you consider pop radio shit lol
>>123159519Is Supertramp really prog? I know every song on each album sounds the exact same but does that alone make them prog?
>>123169668>classical theoryThe fundamental problem with prog is that classical music theory just doesn't work in a rock context. Guitar, bass, keyboard, and drums just aren't capable of creating the harmonic richness of, say, a string quartet, much less a symphony. It was always a doomed movement because of this.
>>123175127Considering what a lot of jazz trios and quartets are capable of, I don't think it's an instrumentation problem, I think rock musicians just never fully bothered to dive into symphonic concepts besides length and occasionally form, for example they never use counterpoint as often as third stream or chamber jazz groups.
>>123159519what lasts is things with universal appeal. lyrics about love or struggle, danceable rhythms, and catchy melodies that have existed since before recorded music.prog rock is hippie pothead shit that lives and dies with hippie potheads who grew up in the very localized and short-lived environment where it was relevant. it was never meant to last.
>>123169668>>123171735>>123175127>>123177637There is only one theory of music.
>>123172901their albums from before they got famous were legitimate prog.
>>123177936>i like Mediterranean seafood>there's only one type of seafood
>>123177968>tfw all food is animals and plants prepared differently
Because modern prog rock is just 70's worship bands
>>123177992There are lots of bands who aren't but you have no idea what you are talking about
>>123177928Spoken like a true normie
>>123159519maybe you should try listening to a greater variety of music
This thread is further proof /mu/ knows nothing about prog
>>123177928Because talking about your pussy like it's pizza is really riveting universal appeal music. Face it women and gays control the industry now and fuck you if you don't find it appealing like a small bit of the population
>>123178080living vicariously
>>123178426>talking about your pussy like it's pizzai was talking about real love songs like I'd Rather Go Blind.you fucking mongoloid, you literally have no soul.
>>123178456There are prog songs about love, Genesis, Yes and Marillion have a few
>>123178494aren't Genesis and Yes on the more normie side of prog?
>>123178520Yes, so?
>>123179194so the bands that sing about relatable themes have normie appeal and the longevity that comes with it (at least for the relevant songs)
>need skilled musicians and a buttload of equipment>no guarantee of commercial successnot a profitable investment compared to one man rapping or three kids in a punk bandbut also all these genres have their day under the sun before fizzling out, hard rock also lasted from 1965 to about 1977
>>123159519It was a product of it's place and time just like the 60s summer of love stuff
>>123159519Cool ESL rambling post
>>123159519Prog could only be mainstream in the 70s because that was the only era when people had great hifi systems (better than modern ones) but shitty little televisions with only a few channels. In the 70s, listening to prog albums was the pinnacle of home entertainment.
>>123171741Yes and Genesis both moved to making pop rock radio songs, which was also their worst eras (even if i still like what they produced in those eras). for something contemporary, bands like muse and the mars volta also produce a sound that is more pop radio.>>123175127there is no reason you can't have a larger band with a wider variation of instruments. all the great prog from the 70s had other instrumentation other than your standard garage band, often flutes and violins and sax. complaining about there not being a string quartet or an entire symphony has nothing to do with the actual composition of a piece. zappa could produce a piece and play it with a band or have it played by a symphony, doesn't change the theory behind the composition.https://youtu.be/DgxqVa5eQ24?si=PC-95hfGWS0ii0nWhttps://youtu.be/vT8wlkAQAVM?si=2gIF4RUE_8APT1aD>>123177936dumb>>123177974yes. prepared differently. exactly.
>>123170435King Gizzard is huge and at least a third of their albums are various flavors of prog rock. They regularly sell out shows all over the world
>>123159519.... you just ignoring most of the 60's? and what about how much was arounnd in the late 90-early00's? One of the biggest record store bands of this decade is prog too (even if they're boring)
>>123159519Because if it overdoes it's stay than it is no longer "Prog/Progressive". Not saying that as some critique of the genre as it would influence many other stuff down the line
