>single handily invents both thrash and black metal in one albumHeh, nothing personnel kid
>Lies about ripping you off until you’re forced to admit it in an interviewhttps://www.metalforcesmagazine.com/site/feature-bathory-mf24/
Angel Witch did it first (and better)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayh268dw_1Q
>>123280218Still sounds like early Iron Maiden thou
Urmmmm achtually, this is the first release listed on both thrash and black metal on RYMhttps://youtu.be/u3UaRTl3sc8
>>123280147I think it two albums to do that, since the genre was named after Venom’s second album.Still impressive though.
>>123280218angel witch is underrated
>>123280281Sodom doesn’t get enough appreciation
>Single handily invented Death Metal
>>123280147>>123280218>>123280281Black metal originated in 1977 ackchyuallyhttps://youtu.be/Ml-mHo-3FYA?t=67
>>123280712>the first NSBM band
>>123280712Death SS are a bunch of Italian clowns
>>123280737Yeah but their early stuff is gold before they sold out
>>123280147>personnel
>>123280147Not really Black Metal,maybe Thrash but I'd argue Tank or Mötorhead probably did that. If any NWOBHM band resembles black metal whatsoever it would probably be Saxon.
>>123280281Sodom were just Thrash Metal. Helped inspire black metal for sure though. Moreso than Venom did I would say,if it's any late 79s British band though it would have to be Saxon or Iron Maiden overall not Venom. Venom inspired more Thrash Metal and like Nirvana than it did most Black Metal.
>>123280712Varg... This is where Varg found his sound.
>>123280786>>123280771Then who's the first black metal band, Bathory?
>>123280794Not him but Parabellum is probably the first "real" black metal band though they called their style Ultra Metal at the timeThis sounds an entire decade ahead of its timehttps://youtu.be/wSyzklFX7RI?t=262
We're all in agreement here that first metal band was Black Sabbath, right?
>>123280712https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9bE8zZAndUyou might like Absu.
>>123280826https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOOBiX-soDchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls9umbx_Dwohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgditCCmkuw
>invents black metal in 1969https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8jOhqOsouM
Black metal was invented in Norway 1989Stigma Diabolicum & Mayhem (excluding Deathcrush) are the very first black metal records. No one else can apply
Remember when Rap Metal was invented?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qIs_4gKqZw
>>123280904Master's Hammer from Czechia were calling themselves black metal, referenced black metal on their album sleeve, and released an EP in 1989 with blastbeats, shrieked vocals and tremolo riffs, and they credited all of their influences (in 1989) and not a single Norwegian was named.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODbxYjuYfqc
>>123280904>>123280943Blasphemy in 1989 too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUyMTogIqkI
>>123280921I personally liked when Mother's Finest invented funk metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHZHTuUgjQ
>>123280902Cromagnon were very far ahead in so many ways.
>>123280953>blasphemyI will never get over an actual black guy being an early pioneer of black metal
>>123281000There's a story that they beat up the lead singer of Destroyer 666 when that singer called the black member the n-word.
>>123281000He's an honorary aryan
>>1232806031983 - Rudimentary Penihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7ZrfCe9nOQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI5pvp89YIU
>>123280603Yeah, but Slayer thou, Show No Mercy is such a good album.
>>123280971https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12D0tMzxH4A
>>123280888https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTHyHvtSFaEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM9nx3rUdSg
>proto-extreme metal from 1976 with growled vocalshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzyOi5XRu_g
>>123281190https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEl0ZhKm-lo
>>123281201The ancestor of dissoblack and dissodeath
>>123280995they invented folk metal, black metal and stoner metal in one go.
The first prog metal album in 1971, 15 years before prog metal really caught on.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIjshrNAO6c
Pretty sure this is the first industrial metal bandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWR3D0r4YZI
>>123280712Death SS recorded no music prior to 1982. The 1977 pertains to a writing claim, which means nothing without proof.
>>123280826Pretty muchDistortion and loudness aren't enough, it needs to sound sinister as well, and not many songs before Sabbath qualify. You've got In a gadda da vida and 21st century schizoid man
>>123281287They even had a hand in influencing thrash with Symptom of the universe
>>123281248i'm not sure how this is prog but this is certainly a great find
>>123281287I think King Crimson and Soft Machine also really helped metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX0caf1HvNshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX8r5zgudbQ
>>123281287> has to sound sinister.nope, not really: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gfZuhNsElY1969...
>>123281307It's cool they just straight up invented Doom Metal too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lVdMbUx1_k
>>123281344Yeah it does, that's just a rock song, hard rock at bestThe sinister sound is the most significant difference between heavy metal and hard rockZep's Dazed and Confused would be a better example
>>123280821This sucks
>>123281395Sill, they had some decent precursorshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYPv5zGoYpAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAe2Q_LhY8g
>>123280214Honestly who exactly was he trying to fool when he said he wasn't inspired by Venom? Why not just admit it when firstly it's incredibly obvious and secondly every other emerging metal band was admitting it. I'm glad he admitted he was a fan of Discharge though.
Apocalyptic RaidsIn the Sign of EvilHell AwaitsThe ReturnSeven ChurchesPleasure to KillMorbid VisionsScream Bloody GoreI.N.R.I.Altars of Madness
So glad Earth single handily invented Drone Metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv66eCW8Lto
>>123281440Skip to 6:25https://youtu.be/GET-g_qPcXc?feature=shared
>>123280281Sodom formed in 1981, naming themselves after the song "One Thousand Days In Sodom" by... Venom.
>>123281264Swans thoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCS2fygDA2Y
>>123281483Get ready to have your mind blownhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dw-MvBnlFg
>>123281000>first demo in 1989>pioneersYou're American
>>123281401Black Sabbath is just blues solos and rock rhythm played slow, good when you are high.
>>123281572https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWow-tQX3Yohttps://youtu.be/YbTpBAn1kwA?t=1697https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PdpRZKYvbw
>>123280603There was nothing original in music on the early Death demos. And the original vocals were by Kam Lee.
>>123281201Vander's vocals were, by his own admission, inspired by the speeches of Adolf Hitler, who he also admired.
No one single-handedly did anything. Extreme metal in the 80s was release after release after release each one taking things up one notch. Like a relay race, passing the baton to the next guy.
>>123281612>black sabbath, electric funeral, under the sun, symptom of the universeYeah man, just like chuck berry
Who invented folk metal?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__0C0wGTsSEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zs0Sh3ez5Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8o9vyAOa6s
>>123280794Hellhammer/Celtic Frost
>>123281264https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z1zqw2LkoI
>>123281563>>123281264>>123281720https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBH-76b3YLsSwans is good thoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Dp9WNgX08
>>123281738Also forgothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfO3waEOU2o
>>123281665> what is flanger.> what is Jimi Hendrix
>>123281703No, but they did invent goth metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b99khRNToKs
>>123280764babby got filtered by a fucking 2017 meme? KWAB
What if I like thrash metal but dislike black metal, though?
>>123281814https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92bjqDttn_Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzDG3uer1SAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3M610s-HEI
>>123281788Not a single evil sounding riff in his career though, you know, the defining characteristic of metal
>>123281860Here's something really evil for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjzZh6-h9fMblasphemy and mockery it was considered to the flag.All Along the Watch Tower is Dazed And Confused levels but more upbeat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLV4_xaYynY
>>123280603Possessed literally named the genre though, fucking Seven Churches man.
>>123281703>Venom - Welcome To Hell>This is the exact antidote to Emerson, Lake & Palmer, but it's equally important to me. Of course it's pretty much the most primitive heavy metal album ever recorded, at least at the time, but that's exactly what clicked for me.> I discovered Discharge immediately after I discovered the first Venom single, and once we had heard the Venom single we couldn't wait for the album to be released, and in December 1981 we ran to the record store to get it. It's a life changing album. It made me dissolve my first band and form Hellhammer afterwards, and of course from there on the path of my life was pre-destined, and that's in large part down to Welcome To Hell.>And then came Venom, and they really didn't give a shit. They were just heavy and primitive, and again there was nothing that sounded like that at the time - when this album hit, you stood there in the record store with headphones on, and you looked at each other because you couldn't believe that you were hearing. 'One Thousand Days In Sodom' or 'Red Light Fever' or things like that. There was nothing like that - it was a breakthrough, it was the creation of extreme metal. For us it was like heroin.>I can't even sufficiently describe how iconic Venom was for us, how important.Tom G Warrior
>changes metal completelyheh, nuttin personnelAlso Amebix just for the hell of ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paRVoLD4ETQ
It's cool to see how old grindcore ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Zqkuslt-Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJi4t5oskOshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXtiG-oBXOchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpgY2GxwquE
>>123281935Amebix is so good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1k2Oewk4GM
Thrash metal in 1972https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52gCpLwUrNshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C19fOZ9c-Fs
Proto Industrial Folk Black Metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8jOhqOsouM
>>123282002That's pretty wild yeah
>>123281935>>123281980Fucking love the old school crust/d-beat/UK82 scenehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqUuu6sFSdkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2TzG6OpUyMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJgzMg-UhvUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34a9_3_650whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMvYe23p83Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6wMmcdZRKAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmXfSYEwlvg
>>123280943>calling themselves black metal,Totally irrelevant.>blastbeatsIrrelevant, doesn't make it BM>shrieked vocalsSame here>tremolo riffsSame here, again.You don't know what makes it black metal, never will apparently. Even if I keep explaining over and over, your rotten brain is incapable of understanding basic concepts such as intervals, chords, even tremolo picking comes in many different shapes, and you don't seem to know any of it.>Master's HammerNBM (Not Black Metal).>Mayhem, Stigma DiabolicumRoots of black metal>Burzum, Grymyrk, Under A Funeral Moon, Pure HolocaustThe very first pure black metal releasesEverywhere it says>Country: NorwaySorry, no czechfags allowed.
>>123282157You'll love this thenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrtFoVSA318
>>123281577>You're from <insert prosperous country with a higher GDKP than me>, checkmateAnd of course it's a pioneer. Black metal didn't begin to distinguish itself from thrash metal until '89 when the blastbeat/shriek/tremolo combination started popping up from early war metal, with Blasphemy being among the first of that style.Don't tell my you genuinely fucking believe Hellhammer, Bathory and Deathcrush era Mayhem are black metal.
It's funny how just Deftones and Korn invented nu metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEQFKpjYhYshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kgKsT9cAskBut I did find this too, from 1985https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRygKBeBqfs
>>123280921>>123280971>>123281161Bad Brains invented alt metal with the I Against I album
>>123282228White Zombie thoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XfNoS7Jx60
>>123282228I thought faith no more created nu metal
Pantera before Panterahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gox0YYHkrwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z0NjdNKQzQ
>>123282315https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyshX3Hg_os
What's the first Metalcore band though?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKCeMiYGlJohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB8T_K24L38https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2j5SgcJaZ4
>>123281248https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV0F_XiR48Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=lB4jJvfYN7E
>>123281659this
>>123282159Are you sure you haven’t exceeded your hour allotment
>>123281859>evil sounding riff>, the defining characteristic of metalSo then Metal is chromatism and/or minor scales? Vivaldi's summer is metal? Beethoven's 5th is metal?
>>123282002That's just Deep Purple doing Guns And Roses/Eddie Van Halen, lol. Way ahead of its time.
>>123280921Not so fast!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oyVgYWYfLA
Power metal in 1977https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbQm-nSjuHIthere's a version from '75 but the sound quality's shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDw0RHgAlt0
>>123283038American Power Metal mainly stayed to the first one's example, europe followed Symphonic Power Metal stylings with their speed metal gerne instead.
>>123280943That sounds like some weird Psychedelic Thrash Metal or something. Close to BM, but not quite there.
>>123283081>Psychedelic Thrash MetalThis is the new weirdest cope, people seem to get really up and arms when their Norwegian fantasy gets challenged by Master's Hammer, happens on /mu/ whenever it gets brought up, metallum whenever it gets brought up, rym whenever it gets brought upYet people will somehow give a pass to groups like sigh for screaming over celtic frost and iron maiden riffs
>>123282884Did they play electric guitar?https://youtu.be/wOuoSxQBtxQ?feature=shared
>>123283261So now the rock sound became essential again
>>123283298Uhh, the electric guitar is essential to metal as well.Should I have written evil sounding electric guitar riffs? I thought that was obvious
SATAN IS COOLSATAN IS MY DAD SATANSATANSATAN SATAN LET'S YOU DO ANAL ...the album.
>>123283389https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYrH8sWLuXodo you classify this as metal or no?
>>123281838>filtered
>>123283470>>123283389https://youtu.be/rAhZx7-8WYk?si=SD5UkL64xp-LANxC
>>123280147>what if we do Motörhead has already done for four years but...LE BAD?
>>123283535delete everything after ? tracking link.
>>1232834701 minute in, sure why not. So what's your issue, you want to consider songs like helter skelter, you really got me and born to be wild as metal because they're.....loud? Okay, personally I find that simplistic, but you do you.
>>123283611they are loud, aggressive, rhythmic with a clear melody and grit you only find in metal/hard rock and they pushed what would become the sound for that genre.sorry pal no guitar in that thing, all bass and drums baby!
>>123283717>bass guitar is not an electric guitarOkay bro, born to be wild is totally metal, you can stop having a hissy fit now
>>123283554Prettymuch this
>>123283554Recc me some Motorhead songs that sound like Black Metal, Don't Burn The Witch, At War With Satan or Possessed
>>123283801you have to goalpost shift now. rekt and checked.bass guitar isn't an electric guitar, you are a no musician if you don't understand that much.
>>123284194>guitar>uses electricity>not an electric guitarSure thing, and anything can be metal as long as it's loud, gotcha
>>123283857Black Metal is just Overkill by Motörhead but with worse vocals and not as tight musicianship.
>>123280902Too bad that's the only song of theirs that sounds like that. Everything else is just experimental hippie stuff.
Satanic warmaster
>>123284450Go back and take your meds
>>123284450ULTRA BASED
GISM invented black metal
>>123285567This but proto-post-ironicallyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ud41hOUH3Y
>>123280147I'm looking for a 80s American thrash/black metal band, I think it starts with an S and they also wore face paint
>>123285641Sarcofago is from south America (you didn't specify if it was the USA).
>>123285664Thank you! That's the band
>>123285664I forgot to put south
cronos looks like a older, trans limmy.
>>123280147>single handilylearn english, retard
>>123286245He's smart bloke >Cronos was injured in a climbing accident in 2002, which left him unable to play bass or sing for nearly two years.[2] >He took to the computer to pass the time and studied computing and games programming, he learned 3D software skills and worked as the main multimedia engineer for the computer and internet solutions companies K-Class Systems and Globalfibre.tv, where along with company owner Scott Toward, they created the first computer models for streaming media for the internet and mobile phones, as well as programming and building gaming maps and developing internet access via satellites.
Who started the New Wave of British Heavy Metal?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzCd90FI2fAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB5I8W2QbYQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3-l_T6AuNk
>>123287521impressive
>>123287528>New Wave of British Heavy Metalto me NWOBHM is basically this riffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUbLtdqdg9Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnYQrOwc0MQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2HDpHBR_ag
>>123287528https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFvDOZ52ZrYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lKAKTBfBdkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxQACAn5Q4
>>123283038Power Metal in 1974https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-RTCRPMoaQAnd some early demos:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjbPmv4SzQwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4cIGVWFNME
>>123280147Nice job, OP. I didn’t think this thread would last long, apparently it did. Also, you’re wrong.
>>123283066Early US Power Metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsEvhD73EUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xoFCr_ZVgEAlso this song from 1978 that feels very Power Metal:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY61R1bYO90
It's really nothing more that a really bad Discharge rip off with solos
>Single handily invents Post-Metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TICmWym9DmU
>>123280147it's really funny how their album called Black Metal is not black metal
>>123287744>He hasn't heard of God Machinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELPeIwJ3tm4
>>123287774https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bU0IuUgfxQ
>>123281125One of the best thrash albums ever.
>Single handily invents Sludge Metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sju7eEXcsmM
>>123282393Metalcore is gay as fuck. Get out of here with that Zoomer bullshit.
>>123287867https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p4rkjf3IAUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG6Phandmvc
>>123282157https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAMxYqAIBNUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTfb5vq7kshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKDFXDu9Mlohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwEXbVq7yOs
>>123287867Ehh, I think that's still Corrosionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2I2mK_3_ns
>>123281395And Stoner Metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eleGPkE9Gk
>>123288011You'd be surprised at this thou:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB5MCOY9sHIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyu00R6rz7Q
>>123288011Proto-Kyuss was recording demos in 1985 thouhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKbm-6VoQ-4
>>123288011https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVIqogksRlI
>>123280737>>123280712>>123280728i wanna like death ss cuz of their theatrics but the music i've heard is just not very good anyone know their best songs i wanna be a death ss fan they look so cool
>>123288011That was Blue Cheer thouhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as1NcX31szs
>>123280794Bathory didn't invent black metal, but he did invent Viking metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0yuhT4RZ7Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad1vITzPLJc
>>123288149There were precursorshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vpgQaMmAOE
>>123280147i thought diamond head invented thrash metal
I like early symphonic/neoclassical metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQIfYIDjWH0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL194GZhE64https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRCllnQQ44whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeM3swTFsJ8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhx3ll5xDVY
>>123288217Yeah, Lightning to the Nations feels like a thrash album
>>123280921Lone Ranger mention!
>>123288244Ozzy kind of invented it thouhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwWVE84OEIA
>>123288281spiral architect is an even earlier example
Who invented hair metal though?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og29l-hwvTkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT8avZGlnzY
>>123288335Kiss and Van Halen
Remember when Rammstein invented blackgaze?https://youtu.be/srN1GsnBui8
