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Anyone got one of these new Launchkey mk4 in 49 or 61 keys? What's the keybed like? I was thinking of getting the new Keylab essential but since this dropped I've been looking into it since it seems to have better keys and that's all I really care for in a board. I got through a couple of boards about a year or so ago but ended up returning all of them for various reasons and now that I'm getting back into keyboard music, I really want a good board to replace my cheapo Yamaha I've been playing on for the most part.
im never going to find a reverb pedal that i like. they all sound extremely digital, have built in, unwanted modulation, or least of all, the pedals look like shit. someone develop me a reverb pedal that is good please
>>123857938I just bought Amplitube v5. anyone else here use it? seems quite powerful. the trouble is it looks like its going to take me hours to dial in a guitar tone that i want
>>123857943trying too hard to make it bad, but it ended up being an absolute tune. everyone who posts here could learn from this.
This song was my first time recording my guitar mic'd up thru the amp. How's it all sound?https://vocaroo.com/1fBqMKfLCmq4This song is just two ideas at the moment. The two different sections are great on their own but I can't figure out how to get from the first one to the last one.https://vocaroo.com/1kwAFPkk4lsr
trying a trance/ hip hop thinghttps://vocaroo.com/1hE0ivADr7aG
>>123859386I used it but the signal was really weak for some reason. Tone was okay
The shit I make is boring and basic, how do I get better at this?
>>123858065I have an novation impulse which has the best keybed of all the budget keyboards, I haven't tried the mk4 but the FLkey49s keybed was just one step down from the impulse and if they have improved the keybed on the Launchkey mk4 there's a chance it's as good as the impulse.I don't recommend the Impulse though since the modwheels always get fucked up on them. I just want novation to put the keybed of the Impulse on their other keyboards. WHY DONT THEY DO THIS.
>>123860278>How's it all sound?>https://vocaroo.com/1fBqMKfLCmq4Like a 15 year old riffing on his guitar in his room - that riff is so fucking uninspired. Everything is a bit of a mess really. Drums are way too quiet, not sure if there's any bass, the playing is a bit stiff and basic and the weird whining tone at the end sounds awful against the rhythm guitar (out of key). Not bothered to check the other as I assume it's more of the same.
>just when i thought i know what counterpoint is aboutnew patch just dropped
>>123860619I used to wonder what counterpoint is because people act all mysterious like you have to "learn" it and it is a "technique" but it is literally just 2 melodies going simultaneously and usually one is 2x-4x faster than the other.That's all you need to know.
how to beat music addiction? :/
>>123860436>signal was really weak for some reasoni have the opposite problem. sometimes even i turn down the input volume to the lowest and im still getting some clipping. maybe i need a DI box for the guitar.
>>123860596I was thinking the snare, kick, and bass were too quiet. I'll be disregarding the rest
>>123860918>I'll be disregarding the rest
>>123860918>>123860278lol
tips on how to make the drums sound more beefier? https://voca.ro/1cF9d1PPpT4r
https://voca.ro/11PX1lrU4VZg this sounds like it should be more hype, have more energy then it should. Would vocals fix that, or does it need percussion to hype it up? Or is it absolute trash and should be deleted? Lol i aint got no one to share with.
>transcribin>double check against piano covers on yt>everybody's adding their own shit and re-harmonizing and everything is in japanesei hate piano players and i'm racist now
>>123860580Yeah I've been looking at the impulse as well cause it has some nice features for the price but I'd much rather go for something newer like mk4. I'm hoping the keybed upgrade is worth it cause the keys are all I really care about.
>>123861442get some fucking ears first. you'll be needing those.
>>123860395where's the trance?
love it
more weed induced stoner stuff>Spooktober editionhttps://vocaroo.com/1hLGM3EylYRZ
>>123862548Especially Asians have a thing with substitutions. I think it's their right hand language is usually a hit lackluster so they make up for it with shiny chords
>>123863410idk i think it's genetics or something t b h everybody always thinks i'm asian and i do the same thing
>>123863477Just work on bebop language and you can do both. Bud has good modular stuff but it's chop heavyIm the opposite. I suck at subs because I don't work changes on 12 I just focus on patterns and texture. Thats gonna change here soon tho then I'll have both
Kinde trying to recreate this dnb remix:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYBO0kXTar4Any pointers for the bass? Standard reese bass and something sawy maybe?
I give up.
>>123865062You'll be back
>>123857938any tips on approximating the y2k-era sounds from namco? i followed a tutorial to get this ace combat 3-esque demo track, no mastering or anything, but i'm outright lost on what to do theory-wise for the more energetic stuffhttps://voca.ro/12ywBAKRsAHm
>>123865263No. This is it. I'm not capable. Every time I listen to my reference track compared to mine it becomes so unbearable that I feel physical pain.
>>123865376I wish it was that easy to quit. Youll be back. Making music is like a hard drug. If you wanna quit youll have to find jesus.
>>123865549I've been doing this for 8 fucking years. Why aren't I good yet?
I've been working on this cover of "Bad Town" by Operation Ivy for over a month now and you guys always give me great advice and feedback. This is my 3rd iteration and I have vocals on it now. Any feedback or advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.https://vocaroo.com/1kWAEgwVcNUz
>>123863410no, they have more interesting jazz harmony still as the basis for pop music while the west has fallen to unsophisticated, puerile slop since the 80s/90s
>>123865333https://nnty.fun/downloads/other/90ssamplecds/converts/Download Spectrasonics Distorted Reality 1&2Just ctrl - f : SpectrasonicsThen Jungle Warfare 1, 2 and 3 for some breakbeats, jungle and dnb loops.Go wild, have fun. Probably alot of old samplepacks in there that gets you closer to that 2000's sound you're after.
you suck because you put in normal levels of effort but you need a bee level of effort, all the time work workbrrrzrrrrrrrrrzrrrrrzrzbzzzrzrzrzzzzzzzzz
>>123865549I found Jesus through music. There truly is no quitting
>>123865717I expect the next 4 years you'll see 500-10000x if you're somewhat serious and methodical about it If you're burnt enjoy the break but if you've been chosen the god of music is insatiable for our time
>>123865952>WorkFor me, What most people call life is work, and my work is my life. Ya dig? Get into the groove. It's an hours game, he with most hours wins
>>123865850And thats a good thing. Minimalism is peak aesthetic
I've got so many song ideas floating around in my head but I never know how to start structuring and recording them. my brother and I used to jam but he's not interested anymore. I've got some drum vsts which sound promising but I need to start actually recording shit.
>>123865874fucking based, thank you anon. this sort of repo might not help with my music theory issues but it's gonna help a ton regardless.
https://vocaroo.com/1f407KjKkd8fhow do i make music
>>123866718Bum baaaa dummmmBa da ba dum Bumbaaaa dummmm
>>123857938https://vocaroo.com/1gvtbX9HkodEI'm working on this. Does this sound arcade video-gamey? I'm trying to get away from that sound, but somehow, it always sticks to me.Been doing this for nearing a year now. (Also, mixing is shit, forgive me, but feel free to point out where I majorly fucked up. Any advice is appreciated.)>>123857943Kek, sounds bad and good at the same time anon.>>123860395Good, but the horn feels out of place. And maybe it's me, but at the end, things become a bit too distorted sounding.>>123860278The other anon was a bit harsh imo, but there's some truth to it. If you keep learning about composition/melody and keep practicing, you'll get better. (I'm shit, but that's what I notice as a flaw in most people, including myself.)You may hate him, but putting the man aside and judging only his music, Varg Vikernes/Burzum has some clean composition.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP-Pm_rdqxECompare it to what you posted and try to see where things differ.
>>123865831I think the lyrics coming in at around 30s can be a bit louder, as it sounds drowned out compared to your instruments.Though take my advice with a grain of salt, I'm still learning myself, maybe another anon can chime in better.
>>123868509>It's a blues
How do you make the bass in Serum?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAE9V_4Ru3k
>>123860532Write down what you think would be cool on paper.Do research on your favorite albums. Research what recording techniques they used, and take notes.Then come up with random song titles, and make a song around the idea itself.If the overall idea sucks, that is fine. Try grouping the good ideas into EP folders, and album folders.Never be afraid of trying, and even if the song sucks, save it in a folder on your computer and sample it later.Copy a song you like in terms of ripping the drums via midi and then make your own song on top.Take that existing song, export the song to a wav or whatever format you want to get it on your phone, hook it up to your car stereo and then record yourself singing random vocals to it as you drive around town.What I am trying to say is that you're one step closer to greatness and don't know it yet. I believe in you Anon.t. over 15 solo albums in, and I still have fun with it, usually make one or two albums a year and still have fun with it to express myself. Some were good, some were bad, a very small handful were great though I make music for myself really and am still proud.
>>123869739>serious response to a chronic ngmi doom poster
>>123866718I would recommend looking at math rock loop bands like Don Caballero or Mylets.You quickly realize that they start a lot of ideas that change bar to bar and are meant to keep interest but not overwhelm.Try to loop a segment to get a cool sounding drum part, and borrow drum parts from everywhere you can including guitar tabs of songs you like.Start with there and have fun. If you get stuck with closing songs, either end it or add more effects. That or learn song grouping structures like bridge, verse, chorus, etc but only if you want to.
>>123869775You never know. I have been there and know the feeling.It wipes you and you feel like you can't do anything.I just wanted to maybe provide the alternative opinion to see it from a different perspective.
>>123869823yeah i gotchu, idk why i green texted a negative response like that, the thread needs more positive advice like yours
>>123869775reddit spacer to boot
>>123869991positive reddit posters>assholes performing what they think is "4chan"
>>123870044i'll pass on both
>>123869991You got me. I prefer that style of paragraph spacing. I just have done a lot of self analysis lately and found I was absolutely full of anger recently, and resolved it with the related Anger book by Thich Nhat Hanh.Slight forms of mistranslated and cringey sections but also contains some interesting help.I only mention it because I have come to peace with my career stuff and even hobbies in general. I would rather be positive than negative since it's a choice you can make despite what life gives you.Anyway what I am trying to say is that I have felt the same way about music production and realized that there is always a gem waiting to come out if you try hard enough, and consistently with volume output of work over the years.Some people measure this by listens by others but I am still just happy I make music for myself. I have literally only had one person say that one of my albums made their day, and even then I still haven't gotten a single cent from it all lol.Just do it for fun.
>>123869807thanks for the tip anon, ill give it a go. when ive composed on my own, it generallys stems from a basic chord progression, but i can generally imagine how a song sounds quite well, lack of inspiration is a doozy though
why do the drums sound so thin on this album? stylistic choice? compromise to make the guitars sound fat as fuck?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K71wJXO6Fls
>>123863370i like it. mind telling me which vsts you used? im interested in making psytrance stuff and i feel like these sounds are appropriate
>>123870167it sounds like a room mic with no directs, only thing you hear is the snare rattling lol. kinda sounds better for the guitars and bass than the other tracks where it's better mic'd
>>123870256ah yep that's probably what's happening. so i guess they probably wanted to make the drums fatter but were limited by their budget and/or recording means. either way, the guitars sound great
i need a good reverb pedal, one that doesn't muddy the sound, but actually accentuates it
>>123870402are you the bedroom rocker?
>>123870420i bedroom rock, yeshttps://vocaroo.com/1epm3CWNhT2y my latest mixing endeavour, sloppy as shit performance but i was happy with the mix anyway. what do you think?
>>123870402your toan sucks and no pedal is going to fix it
>>123870477my tone is cool, i just like washy sounds on my guitar
>>123870476it's a skill issue
>>123870512probably but i found a decent reverb pedal the other day, it's just a bit expensive
>>123870524keeping buying more gear, surely the next pedal will solve everything for your retarded ass
>>123870574damn you're very hostile. i only buy a pedal once a year or even less frequent than that. i already have a pedal board, im just experimenting a bit.
>>123870609you asked about it at the top of the thread. nothing you buy in a pedal will be better than what you can do in a daw
>>123870638fair enough
>>123870489Whatever pedal company makes the Julia chorus pedal is what you want
>>123870638This is somewhat true to be fair, even if said Anon is a bit too straightforward. I would say buy dirt and fuzz pedals but seek plugins to make spacey and reverb sounds later imo.
>>123870837thanks mate, i'll check it out>>123870850yeah i can't disagree with him, but i simply enjoy playing around with pedals, it's a cool tactile exercise.
>>123870645i have probably $2-3k spent on pedals from back when i played live with a board. presently, i di bass and guitar rarely using a qtron and fuzz pedal. everything else in daw/guitar pluginsthe pedals made sense at a time for me playing in bands/live, but if you can't get a good mix or sound out of the box, then another pedal is a waste. with the number of pedals that aren't even circuits but just dsp chips, you're paying a massive luxury tax to have less options than you do on your pc
>>123870837it was walrus audio by the way and they are very nice sounding pedals, the Fathom Multi-Function Reverb or SLÖER Stereo Ambient Reverb. much obliged anon, definitely going in my wishlist
>>123870903to be honest, im looking to minimise my pedalboard as much as possible because as you say, daws and plugins have become increasingly powerful and indispensable to guitarists. i am mainly after a fuzz, delay, reverb and maybe a modulator like a phaser, and i want to do this with the bare minimum. im no longer going for an early mars volta size pedal board.
>>123870223Main effects are coming from luxverb automation, itself being used as a send channel. The input comes from a selfmadde audiofile created in a complicated delay set, a somewhat blurred melody which i consolidated and redesigned.The Audio file got splitted up into low high frequencies effecting the send verb on different times and levels, since luxverb is able to sidechain.Speaking of sidechain, there is some special verbsidechain i made in fl limiter for cristal clear verberation effects.long post short, special luxverb send automation.i just can recommend to make a send channel and just go wild with
>>123870941i have done plenty of automation in a reverb send channel and it works wonders. im still quite locked into the idea of a pedal board but attempting to minimise it with like 4 or 5 really good pedals.
>>123870935then my recommendation is something like a headrush mx5 multi. there is no reason to own individual pedals for most things when multifx dab on everything else and are cheaper. that or the line6 equivalents, and then maybe accessory shit like a standalone tuner and volume pedal
>>123870953yeah ive checked out a few amp modellers. definitely something to consider. the line 6 ones are fantastic and look cool as fuck. really do appreciate the suggestions.
>>123870953forgot to say, these things are loaded with features of tons of pedals in one box and let you load in IRs for cabs/reverbs. just being able to load in irs is better than tons of pedals that charge 2-300 bucks
>>123870909You're welcome. My bro suggested this a while back, and that pedal is flat out one of those pedals I would buy if someone gave me a free $200 for that very reason.Very nice pedal imo.
Interesting to see the pedalboard talk.I currently have a Behringer tube screamer clone and blues driver and big muff going into a Nux Studio pedal simulating a Fender clone amp.Probably would just debate getting a Canyon delay pedal, another overdrive pedal like an OCD, or a Rat.Kind of just want Sonic Youth, Pavement, and Sebadoh tones, as well as some Midwest emo and math rock stuff too.Oh yeah should get a compressor. That's it for me.Effects pedals kind of lose focus for it all. If I did that I would get a second pedalboard dedicated to looping, reverbs, and delays (despite the canyon)
Direct to Guitar rig 5 :)
chasing highs when im feeling low
>>123859386my favorite amp sims are from bogren digital, i still use amplitube sometimes for cleaner stuff but otherwise I prefer the one knob plugins
>>123871982i must admit amplitube is very overwhelming. but im also pleased with the cleans. im trying to do some doom metal and so far it's been working out but i havent really put any time aside to dial in a tone that im happy with. im curious as to what heads and cabs you were happy with and did you ever delve deep into the mics and whatnot?
>anon is too harsh>anon is too straightforward>anon is hostile>anon correctly called me retardedWhy are you soft cunts here at all? You go to reddit for the hugbox experience, you come here for brutal honesty or shitposts - this is not a difficult concept to understand.
that one sound soon ?? :0https://vocaroo.com/1diOd1Njt7UBcoming up roooosesss....
>>123872215you're still thinking about our interaction? right on man
>>123872215
>>123872269literally me
>>123872273You can also take a shit without leaving the mix
>>123872002oh if you're playing doom forget amplitube and get one of the bogren amp sims, they offer demos for everything and they are super cheap. they also have some great IRs you can mix and match with the sims. i dont like amplitube for high gain stuff.as for the amplitube cleans, i really like how their roland jazz chorus sounds, the fender emulations are pretty damn good too. i also like the crunch that comes from their fender bassman emulation
>>123872269DK's battlestation
>>123872215>You go to redditno you.
>>123872578Kong Beatz
>>123872499im getting decent doom tones when i run my rat and big muff into a clean head on amplitube but im keen to check out some other sims as well. >the fender emulations are pretty damn good toothat's mostly what im using and yeah they're great. plus im using the orange heads from the crunch category which is also nice. shitloads of options to go through.
>>123872578
Ableton stock compressor is bad at low attack, use fab filter pro C2 instead
>>123872805i wish there was a sunn amp emulation for doom)) toanz
>>123872844there is pic related
>>123869739How often do you make music? Do you share any of it?I find that making a song (which are bad attempts at lofi instrumentals at this rate) takes a lot of energy for me and I can only do it once every one or two weeks, it annoys me how much I lack in creativity
>>123872855iirc this is just a rat with an octave and a boostim talking about an in-the-box emulation of a sunn beta lead or some shit
I remember making a track that sounds like what the Solar 42 does, took forever, now I just need to suck 35 cocks in a row to afford ithttps://youtu.be/qcjaBlqCHcA?si=VESp1hqHQ3EnFtnz&t=95
>>123872863listen to loads of random shit to give you ideas. Every now and then you will hear something that gives you an idea out of nowhere and just run with it
>>123869739>a very small handful were greatgot some examples?
>>123872863>takes a lot of energy for me and I can only do it once every one or two weeks, it annoys me how much I lack in creativitystrange? Is it really like this?As soon i trigger one sound/sample, shit becomes its own life out of nowhere. I sometimes have to force myself to stop the creation process to keep control.Just start with creating weird sounds and it becomes its own entity, almost alive.I produce music since 30 years and got three hard drives full with tracks, a lot of hdd's died and i lost at least as much as i have today. I stopped counting them because, it really doesn't matter. I just keep creating.Just like everyone else, right?
>>123873210are you a lefthander or righthander
>>123873244righthanderwhat is this about?
You guys don't write or at least work on songs every day? ... or otherwise work on or practice music? At least when you have the time...?what the frick
>>123873274i do
>>123872229Very good.
>>123873274When i don't produce>search the web for new vst's>search the web for new samples>watch random producer/tutorial/10 mindblowing tips videos>create presets for a synth>create channel presets>play around with samples>do weird channel sidechain fuckery>try to create sounds not from this world>try to create sounds that can communicate with aliens>search the web for strange sounds>try to use strange sounds from web in my music>downloade more sample packs with strange sounds>go to bedroomproducer blog>go to KVR mega list of old vst>get some old vst and play with them around>shitpost here>play video games and thinking about how good the music is and want to recreate it>redesigne fl studio>listen to my old music tracks>remaster this and that>try out new preset banks>get more shit for decent player>make hate comments about third party plugins ilok>play for hours on my midi keyboard for no reason>download video game samples - fx and shit>make my own sample libary
>>123873261im just a curious guy.
>>123873375https://pluginplug.io./ good website sometimes you can get paid vsts there for free :3
>>123873443looks good, thank you.
https://vst.maxzone.eu/string.htmlhttps://freevstplugins.net/http://www.easytoolz.de/index.htmlhttps://plugins4free.com/
>>123873210I have only just started making music to be fair. I usually make an entire thing in 8 hours or less and then I'm spent, unable to add anymore no matter how hard I tryThen I get bored of it and frustrated until a week or two later then I come up with something else.
https://sound-effects.bbcrewind.co.uk/ bbc released this yesterday
>>123872863Just release stuff on Bandcamp. I release stuff maybe once or twice a year to be honest.I am up to 15 solo albums since a few years I did 3 or 4.
>>123873029Can't share, my name is all over it, and the trust factor is limited here. Sorry my dude.I wish that weren't the case but due to this dude's energy:>>123872215I don't really have trust in sharing.
>>123868814Thank you. I agree. I’m still not great at mixing vocals. Trying to figure out a good way to do what you suggested. Probably automation.
i don't understand how artists use high gain channels on their amps and switch to clean. they're not using pedals because of the high gain so are they using a midi switch to switch between amps?
>>123872229I love the conversation between the two synth lines.
>>123872229how do you get it sounding so clean?
>>123872229i kneel
>>123875837retardbro, switches exist for amp channels
>>123857938thought that was Happy Merchant at the bottom for a moment
What files would I send to a client when I'm done mixing and mastering?
>>123879589depends on client and project
>>123879634Would it make sense not to send unmastered tracks? Since he basically wants them mastered by me anyway
>>123879589The deliverables you agreed to in the contract before you did the mastering
>>123879651it's impossible to decide that based on the information you provided
>>123878722that is not what's happening during live performances. Even in the studio I doubt this is happening.
>>123880375yes, you sound like a retarded metal head so it's all quad cortexes prescripted by midi
>>123880453also doubtful. some bands are still running multiple heads and cabs for live performances like Billy Corgan. he has a big midi switch to swap heads. but are some heads purely dedicated to his distortion and others to clean? his modern pedal board isn't that big because of the midi switch
>>123880510yeah dude, you know everything. they're not using line switchers or anything. it's some magical device only you know of that no one else in the thread can suggest
>>123880654yeah it's probably a line switch. would you have any idea which one would be used by major artists?
>>123880692i do, but you're fucking obnoxious so i won't be sharing
>>123880654>>123880692something like this I assume (one device showing front and back)
>>123880741no worries, you gave me an answer anyway so I appreciate it
does /prod/ have a discord? it's a very bad idea but im curious
>>123857938i'm a neet with an Akai MPK and don't really know how to use it.where do i start?i have cracked flstudio and ableton but i literally have no idea what i'm doing.
>>123881075open a vst synth and start wailing on the akai. there's really no other way to start. good luck anon.
>>123881075however speaking from experience, you should buy a legitimate copy if your designated DAW. I worked for years with a pirated copy and I suffered because of it. DAWs are cheap and come with a few bloatware plugins that are fun to play with. you just want a program that can be updated and not corrupt your future projects.
is izotope a meme
https://vocaroo.com/1moa3qT49CBm>old musichouse
>>123873375LITERALLY me.>>123867966you make a good bass garage, anon.
started making raw bm couple weeks ago. just tried vocals first time in a while.https://voca.ro/189ecLDcgdy1
>>123881541that's a bowel movement alright
>>123881456noice but i think it lacks a little bit body / meat. just sounds a little hollow at the percussions / drums at times.
I hope I can make something this kino one dayhttps://youtu.be/Cj9fh-2ORDg?si=vJx398H2RkXrMWdb
>>123873345>>123878074>>123876269ty>>123876374hm, i wouldn't call it particularly clean but one thing to note is the arrangement on this one (and everything i'm referencing) is super minimal, so it's easier to mix things bigger without overlap while not having to be *as* autistic about sound selection as usual.
How do I recreate the high synth sound in this songhttps://youtu.be/n3hiyR0vY1o?si=H3waBFLAXfYXpOKn
>>123881673how so?
>>123881798the pan right on the vocals at 3:55 drives me nuts
hey fellow doomsters. made any brutal soundscapes today? I'm emulating sunn o))) by running a few guitar and bass heads/cabs in amplitube and I'm having visions of the earth's mantle pulverising the crust
>I just wanted to chill out for my entire life>So I created the chillest genre to ever exist>And now I get to chill after I chill and I'm always chillinIts finally time to retire holy shit what a grind
>>123883526taking drugs to make music to take drugs tooif i had an unlimited supply of oxy and alcohol and money and depression i'd basically do that but with ambient lol
https://vocaroo.com/1dYe2zhG7VFHregular show type beat
did i doom correctly?https://vocaroo.com/161aPBCkJDR0
>>123883746why does it take so long to kick in? is that part of the genre?
>>123883958>is that part of the genre?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN22qZp2Szkyeah
Abletons saturator is so buttery smoothe
>>123884222jealous. could you recommend a third party saturator? i don't like the one built in to cubase
>>123884222just wish it had a better crossover saturation control like i can draw in fruity waveshaper. the waveshaper gets a bit too crazy for what i want sometimes
>>123884230is magneto ii really the only saturator in cubase? i thought they'd have more, like the multi tap delay is pretty crazy for a stock plugin
>>123884286ive only got cubase elements so i dont have some of the stock plugins. suppose i could just upgrade my cubase.
>>123884300i don't use cubase but i'd maybe recommend buying fl studio for whatever the upgrade difference is since it seems like a lot. there are a lot of useful fl plugins and you get upgrades for life while still keeping cubase around. steinberg is slimy especially recently with vst 2/3 stuff
>steinberg is slimy especially recently with vst 2/3 stuffcould you elaborate on this?
>>123884300Just watched a video on the plugin and it's quite a limited tape saturation plugin. Do not upgrade Cubase just for that
>>123884360ok then. im still happy with elements anyway and im not sure how or when to apply saturation anyway.
>>123884230Air windows and Saturn are pretty good.
>>123884386Most things want to be saturated. People parallel (wet/dry) saturate masters. You can use asymmetrical saturating for stereo image by hard panning and having different saturations between channels. Whether it's guitars synthe keys bass drums vox, every level from subtle to extreme levels of saturation are desirable depending on the genre
>>123884399very cool. thanks for the info anon. ive used it on my guitars to brighten them up a bit but never considered how else i could apply it
i like gsat + and ivgi from klangheim. i made a vow never to use a fabfilter plugin, i dont like them.
>>123884416pro-q 3 is god tier however
>>123884416i like fabfilter because its one of the few decent plugins i managed to pirate successfully
is it worth it? I can't find a good talkbox plugin.
>>123884423>>123884427it is just the structural isomorphism that worries me, i think about isomorphism... all the day.
>>123884453no, talkboxes are a gigantic meme with only drawbacks. you will not use it enough and it will get moldy
since i live in deep suburbia, i dont have the privilege of playing loud as fuck through my amp anymore which i obviously love because of how much i would allow my guitar to feedback. are there any plugins that can produce a natural feedback response?
>>123884477ok but is there any alternative option
>>123884493yeah, not using a talkbox. get a vocoder instead
Ableton saturator is god tier for both sound design and mixing Saturn is just straight up different... it’s okay for being subtle but imo it excels more as a sound design mangled or more obvious tones with the tubes etcI’m an Airwindows fangirl but the only one that I think really is justified if you already have a bunch of saturators/distortions is density... makes things more or less dense lol>>123884416Nothing from fabfilter is irreplaceable but they’re standard for a reason
Pro R is also very nice
why is it so hard to mix and mesh drum vsts with actual instruments? it's like they're too clean or something.
>>123884585turn down their volume. listen to actual mixes of drums and they're way quieter than you probably thing which sounds uncanny, along with whatever lack of humanization you may have. also a lot of drummers like recording to tape for saturation and rolling off some of the highs. too much of that vst drum reverb and crazy wide panning is also uncanny shit you only hear in a vst and not in a recording. the samples/vst might just suck
>>123884585is because the vst has no reflections. the drum sounds have them when recorded. >inb4 boomers
>>123884838>reverb devices can't do early reflections???When was this written?
>>123884904not her, but i recognize that retarded book lmao. it's the bobby o "mixing engineer's handbook"he says it another time that reverbs can't do early reflections under 40ms
>>123884614thanks, i'll try some different methods then. i recently got modo drum and there's heaps of room for tweaking, but there was an older vst i used that came free with acid pro and it had a fantastic jazz drum kit that i would love to use but i can't load the vst because magix are a bunch of fuckheads.
>>123885006Lmao
>>123885086just read more of his interview stuff. his main reverbs are emt250 and 252, the book is published 1999https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar5S2Hr6b6ohttps://youtu.be/4p3lSM9AYnw?t=74
>i can make it sound like this just with valhalla vintage verbno you cant.
>>123885212who are you quoting
>>123885212Multiple mic set up in a super duper special room? On non-comparable (direct) recordings?Yeah no fucking shit.If you suck with reverb plugins I don’t trust you to level and mix room mics either though.Pointless post
>>123885212ok but none of us have the capital or social standing to even consider using a room like this (that's why we post on 4chan) so I'm going to use reverb plugins to the best of knowledge and get as close as I can, and there's nothing you can do about it
>>123884838isn't that what pre delay is?
>>123885367No that’s delay before a reverbThere are early reflections in reverb plugins lol.Some let you mess with them and or the balance more.In vvv look at the early and late diffusion settings.
>>123885367no, it's the slapback delay right off the walls to get directly to you from the source. pre-delay informs the size of the space as well but it's more about how long until the tail comes in
so now you agree it is early reflections and i already retroactively refuted the outdatedness of the text in question by writing inb4 boomer and you think you are smart? you are extremly dumb.
>>123885651just reply to the person mate, no one cares about (you)'s anymore (maybe you do)
do you guys play with click tracks?
>>123885814Not if theres all ready a strong rythmic element to the project like drums or percussion, then I'll rather play to that instead.
anyone here use midi foot controllers? i have this machine and i still can't figure out how to use it with cantabile but i will persist
So noone gave me any feedback on my beat in 2 days. I guess it sucks.
>>123885814I learned the hard way to use them. I can come up with soulful melodies without a click, but theyre useless without structure. So yeah, metronome stays on.. however my next project ill try freehand again, see if my rythm improved. Because im wanting for my tracks to sound somewhat organic, and " human" or whatever
>>123886554yeah probably
genuinely just buy omnisphere if you want to make it.
>>123886579you must be dumb, no matter the amount of click track, your playing will always be human and off the grid as long as you play it in by hand.
>>123885212Is the vallhala rev as good as its praised? I just use fl stock verb sidechained and limited and i get a nice reverb, wonder if i need the valhala thing.
Speaking of vsts, there is literally everything you need essentially stock in fl studio. Ok i get synths, but other than that is it actually worth it to get the vsts? Feels like theyre just goyslop copies with fancy designs nothing more. Maybe im a brokie coping tho.
>>123886595Yeah, but without a click, youre not directed by the click, you can just guide the rythm purely by feel, of how long you want the notes to sustain etc. Plus since ive got better at working with a daw, i can now just chop and line the riff up to tempo anyway. Guess what im getting at is freehand is good to get the idea for the melody, later you can chop chop or re-record to a click after the fact
>>123886584How can it sound good to me, but not to others, is this what you call schizophrenia?
>>123886667Unironically you either have bad taste or your have an out of wack self-serving bias.I dislike the schizo memeing over what type of music people make actually.Everybody i know who has schizophrenia has completely normal taste, normie even.Also people conflating shitty with just being crazy autistic is deeply offensive to autistic people (me).
>>123886667which beat is yours?
>>123886586i'm not convinced by the sound quality. tate mcrae - greedy had just enough novelty but it's carried by her voice and all that, what are you going to do with the same omnisphere preset
>>123886785>>123862072This one here.
>>123886822Yeah there's nothing really to say about it other than keep trying.The guitar glitch thing is kind of cool but you sound very new.
>>123886854Thanks. I am pretty new, been using a daw for about 4 months. What makes it sound like im new, what could be done to this track specifically to polish it up ?
>>123886822You could add some crunchy breakbeat and turn it to a triphop track focus on the heavy sub bass and give it some atmosphere with sparse spurts of the the guitar with heavy verb , maybe find a good vocal sample to go on it.
>>123886885Anything short of rewriting literally everything would just be a bandaid.Just move on m8
>>123886895Nice. Thanks for your ideas bro. Ill try to implement everything you mentioned. By creating atmosphare, you mean maybe add some quiet synths to follow the bassline, and then the guitar pops up every now and then? Haha im fucking stupid sorry. Im just trying to make a decent beat to sing/rap on. My vocals are pretty sick (i think).>>123886933God damn, man. Thats what ive been doing for 4 months straight. Just starting new each time. I feel like maybe its time to actually sit down, think, and stick with something longer then a day. Fuck knows.
>>123887001yea like the deep bass is contrasted by short bursts of the guitar laying on top let the reverb give it space and atmosphere
holy shit reddit is useful. fuck /prod/, im an r/cubase chad now
>>123887488>mfw r/flstudio
>>123887597that bad?
>>123887597holy shit it's just people posting their shitty songs lmao. this is hilarious
why is eqing so hard? i just chuck a preset on the track and hope for the best
>>123883746https://vocaroo.com/14tebg4tuKTZcont.does this transition work?I know some of the stuff is off timing but i just threw the 2nd part together before work.
https://voca.ro/19IeZA99Ii5H>aliens abducted me and made me make this for them in return for the spacebux i owed them
>>123887794>does this transition work?nope.
>>123887999>gives no (0) feedback on how it could be done better.kys
G-Stomper Studio is free on the Play Store until Sunday for Android Producers.
>>123887845but which kind of alien does the abduction sounds more like a robot if you ask me.
>>123888407>Android Producers
I'm never gonna post a track againno baby its over, yea its a sham, never going to see your or your sister, agaiiiiiiiiiiin. and anyway babe i think she is a man.
>>123889113there is nothing fucking wrong with making music on android
>>123886298I've been meaning to get one of those, but I haven't yet..
>>123889456There is also nothing right with making music on android
>>123886722>Also people conflating shitty with just being crazy autistic is deeply offensive to autistic people (me).the shittiest music i've heard has been made by autistic people with no self-awareness who can't see anything wrong with music and refuse to take criticism. this sometimes aligns with people who make music for video games they're making. it's a completely valid criticism although now tons of stupid people (esp. on here) make music like this since younger generations never got pushed to learn instruments and don't dedicate themselves to practice
>>123857938any suggestions on where to learn music theory?
>>123890571Play music until you get it. Music "theory" is like learning grammar, only retards think it's a good idea. Nobody cares that a chord is sus4, all that matters is if it sounds good or not.
>>123890571depends on the musical goal. do you want to write a fugue or do you want to write a modern pop track?
>>123886586>that's an omnisphere preset, people keep sending me the link to it>that's another omnispher preset, there's a bunch on heretrulyhttps://youtu.be/F5CPQ8LU36w?t=244
>>123890571https://www.musictheory.net/lessons
These are some of my favorite tracks I've made recently. Give them a spin and let me know which one you like best. Criticism of all kinds is always welcome. Thank you.1. https://vocaroo.com/1cZ5r2Gd6omt2. https://vocaroo.com/1j2KWikxFvkM3. https://vocaroo.com/1jd83i5tbQGt4. https://vocaroo.com/1lr07KHHc0yN5. https://vocaroo.com/1iHzSShjVPDX
>>123891105autistic trash
>>123890571watch the barry Harris videos and then look up the stuff you don't understand
>>123890571https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br2a6XxMZ5Munironically this: >>123890628it's all very basic, just know your scales and time signatures (the basic ones like 4/4, not adam neely autism), and the scales are just a suggestion, writing a song is heavily based on intution and only retroactively "explained" by music theory
>music theory is for retards>spams underbelly vidlmao
>>123890694This isn't true at all. Some retard I saw on YouTube was saying music isn't visual like painting isn't Aural. And I was like well, obviously that's retarded, bechSe im looking at a visual sheets for music, but nobody has ever found any use for Aural representations of paintings. So, fucking retards
>>123891282>muh beatles>shows an example of deviating from the scale as a sign of genius>not that the scale was stupid to begin with
>>123891306>I saw on YouTubestopped reading there. dont care. you cant play figured bass if you dont know what figured bass is, simple as.
>>123891105It's pretty much as anon says here >>123891127. It sounds like you got a new synth and just made a bunch of test tracks with whatever presets you liked. I don't think these are mixed at all. Drums sound trash and amateur, nothing really fits together well, sounds like you just stabbed out a few keys on the keyboard and called it a melody then just ran with it for the most part. I don't think I really caught a proper bass at all in any of them as well. Also why fucking 5 of them? How long did it actually take you to fart these out, be honest?>let me know which one you like best5 was my favourite, but only because it made me laugh the hardest. I like the idea that you might be a little autist trying his hand at music, but who knows.
>>123891328>Only geniuses can play outThere aren't even that many chords to select from that sound out...
When did RGB LEDs get so fuckin expensive wtf
>>123891433>I like the idea that you might be a little autist trying his hand at music, but who knows.the sad part is they're usually not, and they have massive egos over their detritus
>>123891483Humility comes with skill you would know if you're skilled
>>123891105i like 2 the most. 1 and 4 have decent sound design too. needs more work to get to a pro level melodically and tension and release but it's a great start as it's far more energetic and has more of a resemblance to pop music than this bullshit:https://venustheory.bandcamp.com/
>>123891492Humility gets you nowhere, chief
>>123891433I had to check it out after this post because I couldn't imagine it being that bad, but holy shit it's absolute dogshit.He really needs to learn legitimately anything about music. This is the kind of stuff I'd expect someone with about 5 minutes of practice to shit out, it's a level where there's really no point giving any advice to other than "get a lot better".
>>123890255>autistic people with no self-awareness who can't see anything wrong with music and refuse to take criticismyou every think some people just don’t care as much as you and want to make some music for fun, not caring if it’s good or bad? you sound like the autistic one to me.
>>123891746You sound retarded
>>123891756ok kill yourself faggot
>>123891774No, I'm too busy making BAD music that I have to post in a thread for ass pats. I will ask for critique and feedback then ignore all of it because I don't care if it's good I just want to make music and waste other people's time. I only start hobbies to make bad things, why would I ever care if I ever make anything "good?"
>>123887665Simplify it. What are you are trying to do with the EQ? If you're EQing a vocal and you use "vocal shine" preset or whatever, are you thinking about what that means? Looking at the bands to see what it's doing? You don't necessarily need to EQ everything. You don't necessarily need to EQ anything...But you should be intentional with your actions. If you like what the preset is doing, figure out what it means and learn how to do it manually. You are effectively sculpting your sound.
>>123891800you’re severely autistic captcha : mKYSh4
>>123891800> I will ask for critique and feedback then ignore all of itnobody even gives feedback on these threads
>>123891874
>>123891828you say you don't care but you're seething. you're scared of failure in trying to improve but you would surely make better music if you could, both for your own enjoyment and others. even getting on a stage and performing at a show might not seem like something you would want to do but if you got paid $$$ you would surely do it and it wouldn't be that bad once you got into the habit of performing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQwpRTwVTq8
>>123891891> you're scared of failure in trying to improveno I just don’t care. I have no ego attached to making music. it’s not even my main hobby.> but you would surely make better music if you couldwho cares? you could say the same about anything.
>>123891433>>123891569OP here, I have been making experimental music for over 15 years, and have been drumming for 21.https://soundcloud.com/hey_personMost of my tracks are drumming based tracks. Most to almost all of the drums you hear are me on V-drums. I don't really care about good melodies or bass. I just like having a catchy background to my drums. I don't know too much theory and I never plan on learning any because I like making what I like to hear. I don't really make my music FOR anyone else, but I do put it out there in case it catches someone's ear. And I don't like making my music highly layered either. I have a drum track, and usually just 2 synth tracks 1 for high end and one for low end and that's usually about it. I don't like working on a track for more than a few hours if possible. I like having a slightly "lazy" approach to my sound. I feel like the longer I work on a track the less visceral it ends up sounding so I try to keep it short and sweet and visceral as possible.I've had a professional music producer listen to my music and call it "Highly important and wildy different, but not for many people." which is fine by me.Thank you for your feedback I will take it into consideration, and here is a screenshot of the second song.
>>123891924>no I just don’t care. I have no ego attached to making music. it’s not even my main hobby.lmao "i have no ego so i have to separate myself from this, it's n-n-n-not my real h-hobby anyway"
>>123891965get some meds schizo
>>123890628Meh, kinda sorta.I can't read music, and have a very limited knowledge of theory. I barely even have a mastery over my instrument of choice after 15-ish years...But I started writing songs on Garageband at 16. The moment I first picked up a guitar and put two notes together, I was locked in and ready to record.I've written hundreds of songs spanning just about every genre you could imagine, and my arrangements would be interesting even to someone with a background in theory. I always work with artists who are infinitely more talented than I am, and I'm very upfront about my limitations as a player. Yet, I'm also the band lead who writes the material, as arranging/composing just comes naturally to me.Can even recall playing with this super talented musician, showing his a chord progression I had been working on. He starts noodling over it, trying to find the scale and suddenly he goes "Oh shitttt, you're using ___ scale here, that's so dope". I'm just like... "yeah, sure heh..."
>>123891105Based.>>123891940>me on V-drumsI've been thinking about getting a midi kit to record -- how is latency?Even the subtle delay on my midi keyboard drives me crazy.
>>123857938TRACKING WITH SESSION DRUMMER ON MONDAY, PLEASE HELP ME DECIDE ON A SNARE TONE FOR THIS SONG LOLexample of 90s style snare (heavier touch, higher tuned, roomier) - https://vocaroo.com/1nC9Ml1QjIn0example of modern indie style snare (probably same material as 90s snare but lower tuned, lighter touch, and mixed drier w more body)https://vocaroo.com/1chDkNrM1yh5i lifted these tones from...90s example, modest mousehttps://youtu.be/5kwLVhnTYlI?si=TTL4tAbzaaG9Egbo&t=10 modern example, slow pulphttps://youtu.be/J_XPj6hhtag?si=Mj_dVToeZ9gsHqc5&t=5i mean obviously we could try both tunings during the session, but i kinda dislike being indecisive during trackinglike, i think that the 90s-style tuning would work perfectly for our song (sounds a lot like modest mouse right)...i'm just worried that it'll prevent the final mix from being buttery like slow pulp, cos the snare won't have as much body as slow pulp's snare. and i wanna make an indie radio hit like slow pulp so fucken BAD
>>123892034Was gonna say you're probably overthinking it, but the music world needs more overthinkers - so, good on ya! If they're a session drummer, then they work for you. Absolutely no reason why you can't try both tunings. But again, you're probably overthinking it. You want to get it right on the way in, but there's lots you can do in post as well.>sounds a lot like modest mouse rightumm yes, yes it does lol
>>123891975Mentally stable unlike you
>>123892022If you are playing back your v-drum input directly from dac there's practically no delay, but that only works with auxiliary sounds. But if you're sending midi from your drums into dac into ableton then back, there's almost ALWAYS a delay. You can get the delay really low, but it's still enough to be noticeable. So what I do. I that I just record my drums via midi into ableton, but I playback auxiliary directly from the DAC so theres absolutely no delay. The only issue is, is that you're listening to system preset sounds on your v-drums and no the custom drum rack you made in ableton but honestly its not that bad of an issue in the end, as long as the midi is being recorded properly it should be fine.
>>123891510to be fair, I don't think penis theory is trying to make pop music at all
>>123892141>playback auxiliary directly from the DACThank you. That's what I was thinking.Might be worth the compromise.
>>123891940>over 15 yearsJesus, man. This has got to be a shitpost.It feels like you fundamentally don't understand music. What is interesting is variation, your works here are incredibly samey throughout, there's no progression. You repeat motifs as if they're interesting, but it feels like random sequences poorly strung together. If you're trying to argue that you're a drummer first and foremost or whatever, why does it feel like you don't even have any basic expression going on?I don't know who you've managed to rope into huffing your farts, but at best they were just trying to be nice.
>>123892212>why does it feel like you don't even have any basic expression going on?because I always set everything to max velocity. It's how I've always liked drums to be.
>>123892302Fearsome.
>>123891940>I've had a professional music producer listen to my music and call it "Highly important and wildy different, but not for many people." which is fine by me.Fucking hell, man. This is some expert level trolling.I'm not going to pile on you, but whatever's saying in this thread is much closer to the truth. Even if you're trying to make edgy, outsider music on the fringes, it needs to be more interesting. It has to either challenge the listener, or simply sound good. Your music currently does neither. It's not terrible, but it's not particularly fun to listen to - in the same way an amateur in their childhood bedroom isn't ready for prime-time. There's some ideas and tones there, but at this point it's hardly even "music".Don't stop creating. But try to be more intentional...
posting another idea in the feelings grinder. https://voca.ro/1hXrna6soXeF
>tfw I've been /prod/ucing for almost 15 years, on and off>still barely know what I'm doing>never released an album>have even less gear than I had 10 years ago>cope by telling myself I'm "doing it for fun"day of the rope soon for me
>>123892682Why aren't you improving?
>>123892621Very based. It's giving me 2010's Nosaj Thing vibes with a hint of NAMCO Sound Team.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_woNBiIyOKI
>>123892621Dull at first, then that synth note at 18 seconds kicks in and it turns into an unintentional comedy. 35 to a minute is honestly okay, aside from the reverse breathing sound which at least is heavily effected at first to mask it a bit, but you drop that soon enough or I just got used to it enough to add another comical sound to the landscape. Then the synth note comes back to put the nail in the coffin and I just can't keep listening with a straight face, I had to tap out.Honestly, it's better than the other 3 I listened to out of the first 5. There's at least a little something there, it's just buried under full velocity notes and incomprehensible sound design.In 50 years, maybe you'll be making something good.
>>123892682Work with others.My solo project was at a stand still, other poking around at a few ideas in my DAW. Ended reaching out to a cool band on Craiglist that sounded like they could use some production help, and now I'm like the in house producer for this collective.It's challenged me in ways I wasn't expecting, and I've grown as a producer more in the last 6 months than I have in literal years.Also, it's okay to take time to hone your skills. I spent much of the pandemic just tinkering, not with the intention of creating, but finding out what different plug-ins do, mixing, mastering, etc. and it's helped me a ton in this new endeavour.
>>123892736it sounds nothing like what you linked
>>123892691I'm low IQ and severely autistic
>>123892764In my head it does :(
>>123892740>Honestly, it's better than the other 3 I listened to out of the first 5. There's at least a little something there, it's just buried under full velocity notes and incomprehensible sound design.In 50 years, maybe you'll be making something good.ill take it
>>123892595https://soundcloud.com/hey_person/gluemaster
>>123892764Also, they're in the same key and that sometimes triggers memories in me.
okay guys remember NO shitposting in the next thread and everybody has to be nice, mkay?
>>123892740>Honestly, it's better than the other 3 I listened to out of the first 5.If you're referencing >>123891940 This song is not mine. This is someone else. I made those 5.
>shitcloud shilling
>>123892621Nah, bruh. I've listened to this three times in a row now and I fucking love it. Saved it twice so it has the (1) in the file name for me when I go back and search for things I thought were bangin'
>>123892990thnx
>>123892948ok
>>123892842This is the worst one yet. I get that you're probably LGBTQ+ non-binary and/or autistic, and going for the edgy hyperpop thing... But the most controversial thing about your song was the use of the word "pussy". Try making the music itself be interesting/challenging instead.The drum programming is pretty insane. I don't personally love it, but it fits the hyperpop thing. Lean more into that, and try to make the instrumental beds more engaging.
>>123893237>LGBTQ+ non-binary and/or autisticplease stop assuming my people post and make music like this, it's extremely offensive
>>123893257they make the worst music around, see that le sad anime bocchi guy
>>123893292>see that le sad anime bocchi guywho do you think you replied to?
>>123893365exactly who i thought i was replying to
why has everything to be so political. just post some music and stop your personal vendettas.
>>123893292Why are you specifically naming one of the only posters here who doesn't absolutely suck shit? lol
>>123893440How is being gay political? Some idiot keeps posting links to their terrible music, and saying shit like their music is "important". We're all just making an assumption that this is a symptom of being coddled and never receiving any criticism or discipline, and the kind of music they're making is heavily trans-coded and outsider in a way that really does make them seem autistic.
>>123893485because avatarfag blogposting is annoying and he's been doing the same shit for years with 0 progress. le quirky glitch sounds so cuhrazy
>>123892740not to pester you but could you elaborate on why you thought those notes were “unintentionally funny”? i’m trying to train my ears to be more conscientious of these things. To me they just seemed like standard techno/ambient sound design and genuinely thought they’d fit. Other people liked the track so at least i’m in a right direction but still really want to improve.
>>123893500Because one side chose to politicize it, obviously.>>123893522Annoying? A bit.Heavy disagree though, from a long time lurker.
>>123893525They're comically out of place. I knew they were coming and they still made me laugh, it's hard to explain why. The noise profile is like something you'd hear at a wacky carnival, or a digital fart sound. The reverse gulp breathing is a little off too, but not to the same extent. It's just a poor sound, it isn't dissonant from the rest of the track.
>>123893522YOU ARE FUCKING ANNOYING BECAUSE HE IS ATLEAST POSTING AN IMAGE ON AN IMAGEBOARD AND YOU ARE DONG YOUR FUCKING ENTITLED>HEY GUYS THIS IS ANNOYINGFAGGOTRY IN EVERY FUCKING THREAD YOU STUPID FUCKWIT
>>123893666wrong
>>123892736>only 5.3M viewswtf this was one of the few experiences i had in my childhood that i would count as artistic
>>123894130>2012>childhoodshiggy diggy
>>123894150ok fine i was a young adult *suicides*
What do you guys do when you havent wrapped up with ideas but dont know where to go and the song just naturally kinda yearns to be over? https://vocaroo.com/1hbaR3rSt4by
>>123894208That's ok. 2012 is when I graduated from college with my master's degree.
>>123894289Into the folder of exported ideas it goes. Maybe it can be repurposed into something else in the future. Not every idea warrants a 3+ minutes, fleshed out song. Sometimes you have to accept that it didnt amount to anything more that a minute.If you've been banging your head against the keyboard for the last 2-3 hours trying to squeeze magic out of something, you either leave it alone for a while, do something else or you abandon it all together and like said, export it and stuff it into a "ideas" folder for future use.Not every idea warrants a 3+ minutes, fleshed out song. Sometimes you have to accept that it didnt amount to anything more that a minute.
>>123894711a folder of exported ideas now there's an idea. I only have a folder of completed music which hasn't been very busy lately. maybe your idea would help, thank you.
>>123894289crank out an ending as fast as possible, bounce, move onif in a couple week i listen back i'll typically hear either that it wasn't that good, or the next move will be extremely obvious with fresh ears and it'll be written really easilyactually i hear pretty easily where your tune would golike... OPN crossed over with something more old school hip-hop weaving in and out with a 2000s idm glitch thing.... then more of a synth heavy thing developing the harmony in the background to eventually drop back into a sparser version of the original idea
>>123894726I can do that in the future that sounds like good advice, at the moment my process is too fractured to do that..files don't stay on my only available PC for long so if I go back to a track a few months later there's a good chance big chunks will be missing. this is unavoidable for my situation but it's manageable. thank you for the feedback, damn I cannot escape the opn comparison. I've been told I sound like him sooo many times by different people it's wild. I still haven't listened to him so I don't know what to think about that, where would I start with him? if by opn you mean Oneohtrix Point Never as people usually do. that is good advice about fresh ears, ty.
>>123894725It's also fun to sample your own ideas. Finding 1 second snippits and throw them into a sampler. It's a way of sampling that feels like it's cheating, but it really isnt because you're using your own music as source.
>>123894811that's also a good idea, I guess you could do that forever really. it'd be cool if someone made a synth that did that, recorded into itself and then recorded over that to make an infinitely evolving patch.
>>123894783I haven't been listening to him often enough for the past few years to have him thoroughly mentally cataloged, but what comes to mind is mostly his earlier work where it's ambient in the "traditional" way as opposed to what he later did post Replica.I'd say Returnal is most similarhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGj5N9Ll9pIGarden of Delete and R+7 are the typical picks for his best album, though they're quite different from what you do...Though I think Again kind of hearkens back to what i've heard you post beore in a way that I can't explain... maybe something to do with the inclusion of more obvious traditional instruments.Also he rips pink floyd on it, idk if that interests you lol.
>>123894851thank you for the suggestions. his Wikipedia page definitely seems like id like his stuff so I will start with returnal and go from there. I haven't listened to pink Floyd aside from dark side of the moon but I was on acid so I don't really remember much of it but I would still be interested to hear him rip on it. and I liked on the run. how did you know ive posted before what gave it away.
>>123894902Np. He rips off one of the intros from the song on Animals iirc and some other elements maybe, idr... and then he goes into like some acoustic drum guitar solo thing so like, it wasn't subtle lol.Your style is pretty obvious, and most people here aren't doing granular or anything very often.There's a threshold for skill when posted here that instantly puts you in a minority as well so like... that narrows it down very quickly lol
>>123894962ripping people off very obviously is a fun way to make music, especially if you do it badly. and thank you, I do really like granular stuff, mostly because it let's you do so much with your samples though I really should move on I think. it's hard when at every point of the process, everything could be much better. I'm glad I have an obvious style though thank you, that's quite the compliment for a style.
>>123895018I <3 granularz too but I feel you lol, habits like that are hard to breakc u next thread bb
>>123895066granular shit is just very much the kind of sound that I find myself always wanting, this broken digital thing that isn't quite right. thank you for the advice and the recommendation, I'm torrenting opens discography as we speak. I don't think we'll speak again for awhile, if we do ill let you know what I thought of him. hey if you like alt rock, here's a cool album I've been into https://youtu.be/5pV8WFvSNYE
>>123895150>I don't think we'll speak again for awhilewell dang alright lmaothanks i'll check it
>>123895175well, are we talking anywhere else aside from here? I think I know you but I'm not sure
>>123895206Unless you happen to be from Oceania I don't think so lolI post... anime....
>>123895226yeah no I'm from Ohio. >I post... anime....I think I have heard your work before, it's been extremely good whenever I remember it. I think I can place you better now knowing you do granular stuff as well.
>>123895257>OhioOhio....Thanks maybe xD
>>123895265what's wrong with Ohio
>>123895281the only in ohio meme
>>123895291oh right that. well I like you so I'll come back I guess, posting things makes me feel awkward but I genuinely don't know how to move on from this granular world until I make at least a few really cool things with it. but I can't yet make these really cool things and alone I'm a closed system without a way to identity it's errors and you guys have given good advice on this kind of thing before.
>>123895326I'll just throw out that my solution to an identical problem was to approach granular (and everything actually) as being the middle step in sound design as opposed to treating like a synth... except when doing pad stuff.Like I usually make things to be granularized after the fact and play it back as an effect, or i'm doing a tedious granular session for the purpose of later chopping that into something completely different and it will likely be used in multiple songs after that initial session, though maybe that would be trouble with your storage situation
>>123895388I can save things to king term storage, just on external drives that can't all be connected at the same time so that's still manageable for me. thats not a bad idea, I do end up with a lot of granular noises that could be better if treated as a middle ground like you say. a good suggestion. I do have to go now but I think we'll speak again very soon.
>>123895430l8r sk8ri like the album you linked so far btw
