Nothing But Black Metal November.WAR METAL EDITION.Old: >>124276980
>>124282506>WAR METAL EDITION.I sleep.
REDEEM YOUR LIFE FOR JESUS
>>124282521NO
Satanic Warmaster’s Werwolf is a legend whose mere name and towering reputation arouse the utmost reverence. His sublime creations leave all but his fellow superhumans in a state of fear and trembling, turning men into mere mice and exposing the inauthenticity of most modern metallers by mere comparison. Although Werwolf has participated in an absolutely dizzying number of projects, his best-known brainchild remains the beloved Satanic Warmaster, founded in 1998 in Lappeenranta, Finland. Werwolf is not only one of Scandinavia’s artistic leaders, but also one of the most important and iconic figures in black metal worldwide.
>>124282506Fucking love Blasphemy, esp this live album!
HAIL THE AMERICAN HORDES
>>124282521Brightened Diurnal Laughtercult
>>124282555Hail dem, selber!
>>124282533The more recent Brazilian live albums sound great as well. War Metal in general absolutely crushes live.
>>124282555Indeed. also checked.
Why can't americans into black metal?
Can anyone confirm if any of this is any good? Was posted last thread and I don't know 90% of it.
>>124282600all of it is worth hearing (except for the Burzum record)
>>124282600Only good ones are Furia, Katharsis, TSLOS, Taake and KPN. Everything else is mid to scrapable.
>>124282600>I don't know 90% of it.Good. Try something new
>>124282600Some quality stuff but ultimately very tryhard and contrarian, favoring artsy hipster trash that "pushes the envelop" of black metal instead of good RIFFS.
>>124282506I did war metal yesterday. Today is for chill atomshit and folkshit.
>>124282632Based. Fuck OP that goatsucking faggot
so literally nothing good ever came out of Cascadian BM right
>>124282585Criminally underrated album
>>124282615Dodsengel is solid aswell. Overlooked it.
>>124282642track: Gallowbraid - Stone of Rememberance
>>124282642right
>>124282642*American
>>124282662it's not the 90s anymore old man
>>124282642Fanisk.
>>124282671
What was the name of that american black metal band that pretended to be japanese again?
I haven't listened to "new" black metal since high school, 20 years ago.I really enjoyed Carpathian Forest and Black Dawn; can you recommend new bands which sound like this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bb6QhlI74s
>>124282693Ghostbath pretended to be Chinese.
>>124282656sounds like pirate metal, and it's from Utah. Doesn't quite fit the criteria>>124282673Ok alright you win on a technicality.
>>124282671Disprove it.
>>124282700Oh yeah these are the faggots I was talking about, lol. Thanks.
>>124282506https://youtube.com/watch?v=QpLbkxEL5bs>black metal sucks>black metal sucks bay bee
>>124282694Mordhellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIjtuhjVl2E
>>124282709>sounds like pirate metalAre you deaf?
>>124282662Leviathan
>>124282677Wisdom. Only cold people can make evil music.
>>124282747What exactly do you call this sea shanty shit here then? https://youtu.be/jMvUaJLaeNQ?si=fjNpvnlEawrgd0Tn&t=750 black metal detected
>>124282728Moonlover was genuinely discussed and appreciated on here. The Sunbather era of black metal really was awful.
>>124282771Yeah, still not going to let that one slide
>>124282600OdiumNostrum-core.
>>124282769It's cascadian.
>>124282771I genuinely enjoyed Moonlover
>>124282787It's uranian
Who makes the better black metal:Waldvölker or Steppenvölker?
>>124282506based editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAtzfgsdtZE
>>124282532All trueAll based
spoonfeed me a blasting with raw and tasty riffs
>>124282852https://youtu.be/uS0ZrcR3rKk?si=jInh5lfFS5HPUA7h
>>124282851All cringe
Who is the most autistic bm musician?
>>124282858blasten now will report
>>124282852Lunar Spellshttps://youtu.be/HG-Dk9O_FkI?si=8a_30I_YaGXx7pL5&t=671
>>124282852>>124282839
>>124282869Objectively Striborg.
>>124282869
>>124282852https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JKsN_Nermg
Damn...
>>124282506>WAR METALNBM. Maybe try >>>/mu/metal/ sister?>>124282533>>>/mu/metal/>>124282579Yes it is generally known that war shital attracts br*zilians>>124282632Cool, you lost.>>124282639Based.>>124282839More like assed edition you gay faggot>>124282869Me
>>124282785Nah too many noise related picks that OM doesn't post, and has stuff ON wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole like Aquilus, BMH, Taake, etc. Biggest difference is the nigh total absence of atmo or dsbm picks.
>>124282936Correct. OP is off-topic and gay
>>124282932He fought for his country. Not a faggot.
>>124282737Thanks. The guitars are a bit muddy but it's cool.
>>124282944>total absence of atmo or dsbm picks.BASED.
>>124282932We still haven't decided who won the russian vs. ukrainian black metal war.
>>124282881He's not autistic enough to vehemently not admit it which disqualifies him in my eyes
To the fucknugget who rec'd me Malacht and Negative Plane, UnBlack Metal means LEAVE THE FUCKING HALL YOU FLACCID CUNTFLAP!Anyways, beyond that had a p good day of listenin'. Reminded myself that Inquisition are overrated, which gets that outta the way.Anywho, currently reading Chapter House: Dune. BM for this book?
>>124283030Arckanum? idk, just a random rechttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5eZOD88EGM
>>124283030Darkspace
>>124282932Hail!
>>124283030chuddy/10
>>124282936you're not a musician, you're also an Amerimutt
>>124282998russia only has 1 good album: batushka the ukrain has many
>>124283073>russia only has 1 good album: batushkaNobody tell him.
>>124283084I saw them live. Wore my cum jeans and everything.
Just relistened to Natur and to be honest it kinda drags. Got a feeling it's not aging well.
>>124282532Great, now let's see Paul Allen's bedroom band.
>>124283070Incorrect on both.>>124283116Natur is 7/10 Kultur is 10/10, it has been established by the secret elite of /metal/
>>124282932Oh no. Hopefully it wasn't a faggy drone that got him.What's Roman doing?>>124282998I think it goes to Ukraine, but that's mostly because I'm more familiar with Ukrainian bm.
>>124283144Natur has aged badly bad it's still the better album of the two. Sorry pal.
>>124282858this is great, exactly what i was looking for. I often get filtered by the bm classics but this tone and fun riffs always seem to come hand in hand
>BLASTANhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8mh3SLvtc
BLASTING
>>124282932The coke dwarf is responsible for every one of them. RIP
>>124283280https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mIGP1drUOc&t=850s
>>124283280https://youtu.be/kREstt-4IxE?si=Y952H36xLIgupn_j
>>124283189What the fuck did you just fucking say about black metal, you little Christian? Ill have you know I graduated top of my class in the Black Circle, and Ive been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed church burnings. I am trained in necrotic warfare and Im the top screecher in the entire NOR black metal forces. You are nothing to me but just another poser. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this earthly plane, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, vegan. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of kvltists across Scandinavia and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the necrostorm, heeb. The necrostorm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. Youre fucking dead, towelhead. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and thats just with my Carolingian sword. Not only am I extensively trained in majiKKKal combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Satanic Opferkrieg Korps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little scenester. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little clever comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldnt, you didnt, and now youre paying the price, you godloving shill. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. Youre fucking dead, negro.
>Kr*ut black metal
What is peak LLN?
>>124283332Aäkon Këëtrëh.Black metal in soul, but not quite in sound.
>>124283326It's an established taste. Leave it for the oldfags.
>>124283326>Icelandic black metal
>>124283417>Angloid black metal
What I've blasted today. A bit slower than other days. Still mostly from links in the thread
Is doing drugs BM? What are some junkie BM?
>>124282615>Likes KPN but not BMH>Likes Furia and Taake but not Kultur>Likes TSLOS but not one (1) other disso release on there, not even KostnateniYeah calling bullshit on this, probably just didn't listen to most of it but wants to larp as a knower.
>>124282578YES! /nbbmn/ doesn't truly start until I've seen the based donaldkrieg poster. Oldfags will know.
>>124283518Someone other than me posted it in the first (maybe second) thread.I know I should have a bunch of donald, but can't find them
>>124283511Calm down. I said some of it is mid as in mediocre but nothing to write home about.
>>124283159Incorrect. It has been shown that Kultur reigns supreme.>>124283332Mutiilation and Vlad Tepes. Anything else is either dark amboringent or hack black metal. Black Murder is better than rest of the hacks, at least. Torgeist for example, is borefest.
>>124283474Thoughts on Occultum?
>>124283488Being straight edge surely isn't. Some Bethlehem members shot heroin as far as I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0LjHG776I4&list=PLToXWne2Bk-eaV5JDIuKRlvf5FUh8eGd3
>>124283555Whatever homo.
Black Metal for this feel?
>>124283518>>124283545Might've been me who posted it. I have a bunch more but most of them are in Finnish
>>124283597lol no reason to get offended unless you made it and are butthurt about your mid taste
>>124283572Not many, really. I liked it, and will listen to it again in the future. That's usually all I need
>>124283600
>>124283600nice
>>124283626
>>124282932Wtf I just listened to blood in our wells earlier this afternoon. RIP legend.
>>124282936Go back to your containment thread tourist
>BlasphemyI hate to be the one to break it to you but you lose NBBMN.
>>124283658He has a point
>>124282932retarded ass war
>>124283637I desperatly need to sort out my images. I think it was last year that a bunch of them got posted, and I know I saved most of them. Somewhere
>>124283608>your mid tasteNot even mine, just don't think your honest.
>>124283689Ok, you're entitled to you opinion.
>>124283144Kultur is the best black metal release thus far in the 2020s. Sorry tankiecels, the Trve Chvds won.
>>124283567>>124283715>It has been shown that Kultur reigns supreme.Delusional headcanon
>>124283676Anyone who claims war metal and Drudkh aren't BM have terminal brain damage. They have no place in NBBMN.
>>124283555You spend hours in this thread every day just to repeat this same sentence in about three different variations to anything anyone is talking aboutGo away, you monumental faggot
>midAll fucking zoomers shall fucking hang
>>124283718There is not a single black metal album from this decade with better riffs than Kultur.
>>124283723He wasn't talking about drudkh work on your reading comprehension.
>>124283724It's this >>124283718 same guy who kvetches about Kultur, he has some mental illness that makes him a parasite that feeds off of negativity. All of the cancer stems from one tumor
>He has publicly stated that his collaboration with Peste Noire was a juvenile error, done for the sake of creating music, and now disassociates himself from them and other related bands, as he is anti-racist, anti-Nazi, and a supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement.
Not listening to war metal this month.
>>124283724Meds. You seem to have forgotten about them.
>>124283703Whatever homo.
>>124283751>being gay
>>124283746This just reeks of projection
>>124283747who
>>124283766Neige
>>124283757Sorry you got your feelings hurt.
>>124283760December first I'm straigth again
>>124283778Sorry you got your larp called out.
Ahh, nothin' like some good ol' nbbmn shitflingin'
>>124283775>Neige>Alcest>gayyeah, no shit
>>124283802Baise ma hache aren't mediocre btw, they suck :*
Thinking about converting to Islam because hot, young sluts in bikinis piss me offmetal for this feel?
>>124283775Did neige actually say that? Holy shit.
>>124283739>124282632>Cool, you lost.What the fuck is that supposed to even mean if not implying that Drudkh is not bm?
>>124282585>>124282645Excellent USBM>>124282595Why lie when you don't have to?
>>124283765You are why we need to range ban South America
>>124283850Famine definitely lives in his head rent free
>>124283816Thank you sister.
>>124283841They should wear the burka allhamdulillah.I wish I had a good answer.Damaar but you already know it.I am a tourist I only listen to power metal.
>>124283841>metal for this feel?picrel>>124283852you lost because of the war metal stupid
>>124283747>>124283775And he's trans. La poterie.
>>124282998Ukrainian scene is top notch but have to hand it to Russia for BBH alone
>>124283863everyone knows it's only one person on American hours spamming Kultur. Give it up sister
>>124283775>NeigeNever forget that he contributed to a work titled Aryan Supremacy
>>124283488B.S.o.D. obviously
Tbh the vocalist for that Kultur album is sick as fuck
>>124283937And despise claiming that it was all "muh juvenile error, i was young" he still contributed till Folfuck Folie
>>124283946Not a fan of the clean parts. Disgusting dialect.
>>124283946All the shitflinging made me give it a try and I have to agree with that assessment, wonder if it hurts his throat to do some of those yells
>>124283963>Disgusting dialect.Diagnosis? Brazilian...
>>124282932His drum fills in HoS were inspired. Shame the fans couldn't hack their best album so Roman ended up doing the worst thing imaginable and makin' an album w/ Niege in the hopes of continuin' the style.Glad I got my box when the album was current.
>>124284051You can try again if you want to
>>124284079
>>124283962The grinning bird with the HIV needle is so endearing to me.
>>124284095One more try
>>124283886war metal is a subgenre of black metal
>>124283925Source?
>>124284064What is your power ranking for Drudkh albums? I've only listened to Blood in our wells and Forgotten Legends.
>>124284144It is fundamentally, objectively a subgenre of death metal purely. 0% black metal 100% death metal.
>>124284182>0% black metalthere is some bm in it
>>124284182Actual retard
Next year i'm gonna do /nbnsbmn/
>>124284109Double down, you are not white.
>>124283280
Polish Drill with negroid drums recorded by capricornus
>>124284249Wrong on all counts
Varg's Brazilian lore is more entertaining than the whole 91'-93' episode
>>124282600Its good but be aware that its full of "Avant garde" metal that most elitist will shit on because it isnt kvlt. Just avoid jyute gay, that tranny lover jusr makes annoying music
>>124284301
NorwayFinlandSwedenPolandFrancethe rest don't matter!
>>124284347>France
>>124284338top lol
>>124284347>finland
I wonder if Varg gets bullied by Community Notes on Tw*tter
>>124284347>Norway
>>124284347>Sweden
>>124284347>Poland
>>124284144>Ackchyually
>>124284233Why wait?
>>124284357>>124284405>>124284417>>124284425>>124284431haha we did it reddit
>>124284347Add germany to that list>>124284357Yes france you clueless faggot
>>124284451It's almost day 5, and I've listened to non-nsbm-bm
>>124284473Why do you let magic autism rules guide your life?
>>124284357>>124284405>>124284417>>124284425>>124284431haha we did it 4chan
RABMers and DSBMers get heemed
>>124284488It seems I'm autistic.
>>124284195There is none.>>124284209Actual tourist slopper gobbler.
>>124284180The obvious lie was that Amorth didn't play in HoS, but I guess no-one wanted to call me out on that.As far as ranking is concerned, it's very much a personal preference kinda thing. Currently re-listenin' to the whole discography ere I move on to some Astrofaes so I may change my opinion. I will say that as much as I can appreciate Songs of Grief and Solitude for makin' a point, it doesn't stand up to repeat listens. It'd also probably mean you fail /nbbmn/ if you listen to it unless someone's being really semantic. I really like "One and All, Together, for Home" as I feel in concept and execution it's p much the essence of black metal, but again there's some stuff on there that'd make you fail /nbbmn/ so stick it in your list so you don't forget.Beyond this, I tend to prefer the earlier and later stuff myself. I feel that Microcosmos was kind of underwhelming for me as the solos took away from the vibe with their terrible phrasing. Their stuff on splits can either knock it out of the park or be completely subsumed by the other contributor, but I suppose that's another personal take. I need to listen to All Belong to the Night again ere I can make my mind up where it fits. I may be biased against Eternal Turn of the Wheel due to wanting something more proggy when it came out in all honesty. I may also be biased towards Anti-Urban because I had a few years where I was an ecofascist and it gets me nostalgic.tl;dr - HoS = OaATFH > AU > > Most albums > varying quality splits > > > > SoGaS = MicrocosmosI'll update my power ranking next week after I've had time to relisten and review my thoughts.
>>124284357>>124284405>>124284417>>124284425>>124284431haha we did it twitter
>>124284504Iskra is good
>>124282555>>124284347Missing one, shit list
>>124284440Source?
>>124284516Thanks for sharing anon, that was an interesting read.
For me it's Blood in our wells
>>124284516>I had a few years where I was an ecofascistWhat happened?
>>124284064Am I supposed to write in that book?
Going to bed. BM for this feel?
>>124284573Long story short I was a goði at the time, but I eventually came to the conclusion that bein' an AnPrim wasn't feasible due to the fact some random dickhead would end up gettin' us bk to the same point we're at anyway an' I got tired of explainin' to your standard twats who don't realise the Eddas were written by a Xian and a lot of "Nordic religion" is actually Icelandic that Óðinn was buggered by a Jǫtunn and it's a reconstructionalist faith. Three years of Aghori tutelage later I decided to go my own way an' now I'm more a Thanatologist than anything really.
>>124284865Ah I see
>>124284597Nah. The book is just a case for the stuff. I use the quill to write on parchment 'cause it's not strong enough to write on proper vellum.
>>124284865
>>124284865In english, doc?
>>124284865Huh?
>>124284566That's my missus' fave as well, so I can't knock your choice.
>>124284766Any of it. Bm is sleeping music.
>>124284865>>124284896>>124284900I'll try and translate to the best of my ability>Be Anon>A Germanic pagan religious leader at some point, and apparently AnPrim>Realize AnPrim is bullshit and also convert religions to a cannibal Hindu sect for 3 years>Later leave that and become a scientist studying death, which isn't a religion unless schizo anon means it in a different way.
>>124284984>become a scientist studying deathWow, just like one of the Avantasia albums.
>>124282600Loads of cool stuff, but you have to be in deep to a lot of stranger music. The toughest quarter of it like that Plasmodium album probably filters everyone here (including me).
>>124284984Ahhhh. >>124285010Lmao dude
>>124284984P much. I was never a Hindu, but I learnt by doing. Now I study thanatology when I'm not doin' my day job so I can get an MS in it purely for the enjoyment. There's no such thing as an actual death-worshipping religion, which in all honesty is rather surprising when you really think about it.You gain 1 internet.
>>124285081>There's no such thing as an actual death-worshipping religion, which in all honesty is rather surprising when you really think about it.start one
Death Worshiphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_srlF7bQ4I&ab_channel=MorbidVisions
>>124285081>There's no such thing as an actual death-worshipping religionWell you have to be alive and that's just too hypocritical
>>124285081>There's no such thing as an actual death-worshipping religionPerhaps, but every religion worships an afterlife. That's close enough.
>>124285092You need 2 people to be willing to stick it on their census to register a religion, and I can't say I've found anyone who would take such an idea seriously that I'd be willing to chum up with.
Should I drive 3 1/2 hours each way back and forth in order to see Abigail live? Is it worth it?
>>124284766Trist - Hin-Fort
>>124285157Based
>>124285133>You need 2 people to be willing to stick it on their census to register a religionThe fact that you went far enough to know this scares me
>>124285218Nta but great rec
Mail delivery Blasting time
POSTBLASTANhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFn9imEaIc8
>>124284506Understandable, have a nice day.
>>124284144Its death metal with black metal levels of effort, talent, and recording quality
>>124285121Ernest Becker would say that the concept of an afterlife is precisely the evidence humanity's inability to accept death as a necessary point of life. I think you mistake worshipping death as praising psychopomps. Think of entropy, not some rainbow bridge of forgiveness.
>>124285337They have a single track split with Pâlemort that I am listening to right this moment, it’s good. You should look up Pâlemort if you don’t know them
>>124283747Wow a french faggot. Who would have thought
>>124284865That's exactly the shit I'm here for.
>>124285081>>124285121>>124285409>Dude I worship death!Ok then die lmao? Its pretty obvious why this could never be a religion.
>>124285188Yeah, and for Horna too
>>124283962He was fired before the recording of the first album and came back for Folkfuck Folie though.
>>124283850And not only once. He's trying so hard to appeal to the mainstream and the girls/gays with his music and looks these days.
>>124285188id take a train or something so you can get druk. if that's an option
>>124285491Alright. Don't care for Horna too much but it's a nice bonus I guess.
>>124285575Think I'll rent an apartment in the proximity
>>124283747So he's literally a demon sent from hell to make the world a terrible place. Got it.
>>124285576Music aside, they're kinda based. >KPN got cancelled from a festival>Horna removed themselves from the poster to support
>>124285610Roster* sorry typo
>>124285610Played with Horna once. They were piss drunk and weird. Pretty cool.
>>124285643Like in the band or as support? Or checkers?
>>124285657To show their support to KPN. They're both "big" bands
>>124285657We opened for em like 10 years ago.
>>124285683>>124285610I've gotten that. Cool from Horna's side but Famine's honestly kind of an idiot when it comes to this kind of shit. I wouldn't associate to closely with KPN if I where them. Not because of the NS stuff but because results can be unforeseeable due to personal unpredictability and unreliability.
>>124285643just Finnish things
>>124285683Nevermind, I was retarded and replying to the wrong comment>>124285688That's pretty cool
>>124285688Sick. I guess you're not willing to say which band, right?
>>124285702It's because one of their members was live keyboardist for KPN. Also Shautraug has straight up NS side-projects IIRC, Horna is pretty cancelled themselves
>>124285702Neckbeard Deathcamp guy said Horna's vocalist mixed the blackface album of KPN, and was credited in the album as "Nate Higgers" (lmao). The guitarist of Horna also has an NSBM project and the same view personally
>>124285724>>124285739Ah, I didn't knew that. I know some people that have gotten in trouble due to famine acting like a jerkass but I guess in this case they are used to it. Can't spill the beans on that or go further into detail, sorry.
Shautrag wrote the entirety of Let The Devil In. He is a genius
>>124285712Nah, but it was a fun time. Nowadays I just make shitty BM demos in my apartment.
>>124285818Cool, wanna share some?
>>124285770I wonder if Famine and Militant Zone still have good relationships, discogs said KPN removed themselves from MZ and distant from the ideology, not sure if it's true. There used to be plans for splits with Absurd and Goatmoon, of course everything has gone moot. I think it's better for him to come back to France and make French BM anyway. The whole simping for Ukr is pretty silly
>>124285474There's a difference 'twixt understanding the necessity of death and actively deciding to become an hero for no reason. If we've dropped to this level of discourse then I'm just gonna go read more Frank Herbert an' get to bed.
>>124285837>I think it's better for him to come back to France and make French BM anyway. The whole simping for Ukr is pretty sillyAgreed.
>>124285834Sure, last thing I did was the first 2 tracks with this quebecer project. Nice dudes.https://cursedbloodrecords.bandcamp.com/album/myrkwisaidaz-gl-qke-split
>>124285739It was also released on this guy's label
>>124285858This unironically blasts. Good job. Keep going man.
>>124285924Cheers man
>>124285842>There's a difference 'twixt understanding the necessity of death and actively deciding to become an hero for no reason.Necessity according to whom? If you wish to die then go ahead, the obvious result of death worship is to go and die. You can pretend otherwise in a pompous manner " 'twixt going to read le book", but the obvious reality for why no one worships death is this single reason. Not only that, but if someone will decry the beliefs in an afterlife as the mere result of human's inability to accept death, then worshiping death is simply the result of the same thing only in reverse, where worship only happens because of its inevitability rather than there being any real choice in the matter of if to die or not.
>>124285858Nice, I thought you were Polish with that name. >>124285886I know, he runs MZ and went to jail in Russia for killing people when he was a skinhead there. Skinheads from that part are pretty unhinged.
>>124285951>the obvious result of death worship is to go and dieNot him but I don't believe this is the case. Analog: If someone worships the sun, should they thus go blind from looking at it? Or give themselves sunburns all the time?
>>124285985This. That other guy is a pseudo intellectual.
>>124285985Living your life to the fullest is true death worship
>Be Drudkh >constantly hated for being Nazis>Be Drudkh >the same people who hated you for being “Nazis” now worship you for being Ukrainian because the TV told them to Has any other black metal band ever gone from edgy to soi so quickly?
>>124286017It's funny. The same people that would have attacked me for it months ago are now sharing their music. Guess I can wear my Drudkh shirt to the alternative youth center again.
>>124286017Basically the same with any Ukr black metal band. And Militant Zone are on every streaming service and not cancelled for NS content, just because they're Ukrainian haha. I know a reverse case where a leftist band got cancelled by an antifa festival though. Pretty funny.
>>124286048>wear burzum shirt to a bar>that's a pretty bold choice anon>Yeah I guess>everyone goes back to their drinks
>>124286064What bar do you go to where people know burzum?
More like this? Very fast but melodic at the same time
>>124286017Honestly that's pretty interesting, most of the time it is opposite, they go from soi to hated (Mgła for example)
>>124286101Mgla is the most generic shit ever
>>124286101Mgla are still soi
>>124286094https://youtu.be/UhLDS0lMY6g
>>124286094Dark Funeral
>>124285985>Analog: If someone worships the sun, should they thus go blind from looking at it? Or give themselves sunburns all the time?False analog, for I would ask if you worship the sun would you hide from it forever in shade or never going outside to ever be in its glare? Its easy to go and die, if you believe death to be a fabulous thing worthy of worship instead of scorn or avoidance then go and taste death yourself.
>>124286094Ewiges Reichhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpB9N3BlzC0
>>124286106Nah, just compare the amount of coverage Age of Excuse got vs Exercises in Futility, the sound is soi but they got abandoned by hippies
>>124286145I say contact with whatever is worshiped is totally unnecessary.
>>124286160Saw them live and didn't really like 'em. Sound was ass though which they probably couldn't do anything about. Got told they went hard back in the day though. Revenge which played the same day were even worse.
>>124286192The point is that you're going to die. That's the only certainty in life. So...do with that information what you will.
>>124286224Do you concede the argument? I say >contact with whatever is worshiped is totally unnecessary.
>>124286192Non-convincing, even for those who worship things not in their reality such as "gods" still attempt to reach closer to them through their rituals and communications. It is complete idiocy to suggest to me that you worship something while each and everyday doing your very best to stay from its reach. The reality is that this thread is just full of moronic contrarians dumb enough to suggest they worship dying, when in reality they just as everyone else fear and flee from it all the same. Ask yourself why after thousands of years there is no death worship religion? Its not like this information is new to us, people have died and understood they will die for all of history. Perhaps there was a death worship cult, well guess what they probably did? They probably died, on purpose, because they worship death.
>>124286293>this thread is just full of moronic contrarians dumb enough to suggest they worship dyingBruh it's literally one dude who did that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbgHbbB7lFUBlack metal musicians should not be doing interviews like this
>>124286270I'm not the anon you're arguing with. Just saying that true death worship is the worship of our short time here on Earth. Contact with life is contact with death, at all times.
>>124286350Yet you watch them
>>124286317And now multiple fellows defending it as if there is any reasonable excuse for it to ever take place ever. I mean really, it takes mere seconds to refute this stupid premise to begin with. How high on your own contrarian farts do you have to be to even take part in its defense?Reminds me of when Averse Sefira went on that interview and ended up talking about how trees don't pay taxes, BM musicians and its fans are barely cognitive, let alone intellectual.
>>124286381What are you even on about? Are you high or something?
>>124286367On a regular basis? No
>>124286397Yet you promote them
Getting under my cozy blankets for the evening. Got any movie recs? I guess the first /nbbmn/ movie that comes to mind would be The VVitch, but I've seen it many times.
>>124286395>What are you even on about?Newfag.
>>124286293>even for those who worship things not in their reality such as "gods" still attempt to reach closer to them through their rituals and communicationsThe fact that some who worship seek to get closer to what they worship does not make contact necessary.Once again, a sun worshiper is not expected to rocket himself in to the sun. There are systemic affects caused by the object of worship, whatever that object is. The circle of life, yeah? Another analog: Someone who worships birth is not expected to think about being full-body inside a vagina, or masturbate to dragon spelunking porn.>worship dyinguh oh retard alert. "Worship death" is the subject, not "worship dying".>they just as everyone else fear and flee from itEver hear of the "fear of god"?>Ask yourself why after thousands of years there is no death worship religion?Gobekli tepe>>124286317I'm not him but still I think it's not unreasonable for someone to "worship death".>>124286351Oh ok. Yeah, that makes sense.
>>124286404This isn't a promotional platform
>>124286420Every platform is a promotional platform
>>124286405Blood on Satans Claw, my dude
>>124286471That looks cool, thanks man
Onwards>>124286520>>124286520>>124286520
>>124286517One of my all time favorite folk horror movies. Fits the season perfectly and is extremely comfy
>>124286107>>124286148thanks
>>124286415>>124286415>Once again, a sun worshiper is not expected to rocket himself in to the sun.We already went over this; you would not literally flee and hide yourself from anything to do with the sun if you worshiped it. Imagine if someone told you he worshiped the sun, but also intentionally lived in a cave where he made sure he would never see the sun for the rest of his life. Pretty fucking stupid, no? Or a sex worshiper who was celibate and lived as they do on Mt Athos where no women may dwell. I have a funny feeling what your counter point will be, but it will have already been addressed in the below rebuttal.>"fear of god"You mean fear of destruction, or fear of a negative result, or ultimately fear of death? Yet almost all religions end up with you living among or closer to the gods in the end no? For what religion would have you worship the gods and have the goal be to remove yourself from the very thing you worship? Nonsense. >Gobekli tepeAnd the arguments for their being worshippers of death are?
>>124286631I'm still unconvinced.>Imagine if someone told you he worshiped the sun, but also intentionally lived in a cave where he made sure he would never see the sun for the rest of his life. Pretty fucking stupid, no?I don't think it's stupid. A sun worshipper could recognize the sun as a "ultimate necessity origin" for life on earth, and also be paranoid about UV exposure and cancer. Without the sun, there would be no life.Just the same, a death worshipper could believe death is an "ultimate necessity origin" for the circle of life (however correct that would be). Also, recognition of the necessity of the the auxillary effects of death: without death, the earth would overcrowd. Without death, there would be no life.Someone saying they "worship death" is the same as saying they worship "the natural order", the difference being that the death worshiper has chosen one facet of the natural order to focus.Re: sex. I think someone could worship the sex facet of the natural order and still not want to take part in it.What is worship if not meditation, anyway? Perhaps ritualized meditation.
>>124286767>A sun worshipper could recognize the sun as a "ultimate necessity origin" for life on earth, >believe death is an "ultimate necessity origin" for the circle of life>they worship "the natural order"What is he worshiping then, the sun or life itself? Its clear the worship is not the sun or death anymore, you have danced around the issue but landed up as a life worshiper instead of death. Which I think it befitting of this idiotic conversation, and actually far more accurate than anything else you have suggested. This conversation is almost as humorous as the average Socratic dialog in which many paths and options are spoken about only for the end result being either confusion or the complete opposite of what was originally suggested.
>>124286870I still think it's perfectly fine for a death worshipper to remain alive. I said in my last post:>worship death" is the same as saying they worship "the natural orderI think this is actually "the natural order" is only one potential analog definition of "death worship". What is the "death" in death worship?>The process of dying, as one would experience it>The morbidity of decay>The number of deaths/worship of destruction>Death as an analog for inevitability>Nonexistence of the worshipper>Nonexistence of everythingI say now: "death worship" is not defined specifically enough for the expectation to hold that a death worshipper should be dead themselves. Perhaps if "death worship" were understood to be worship of nonexistence, or worship of the process of dying, that expectation would hold.
>>124286870Well, any rebuttal? I'm about to go to bed.
>>124287169Sorry the world doesn't move on your whim, some people have obligations beyond 4channel.org posting. I have only just sat back down to read and reply.
>>124286954>What is the "death" in death worship?To die and not be anymore, there is no other option. If you were to suggest because of its process in the "natural order" or rather "circle of life" then it has to be said you are a life worshiper and not a death worshiper. At best you can argue semantics and do a yin/yang argument, but the reality is that the thing being idealized and worshiped is life and only merely accepting the death because you believe it necessary for life, which means the priority is life over death with the unfortunate negative being a concession for what you actually want or worship. >"death worship" is not defined specifically enoughI think it very well is, we all know what death entails and we all know why we flee it.
>>124287232>I think it very well isI don't think it is. I'll add another one to the list:>ancestor worshipAll ancestors are dead; Therefore: worship death.Earlier you did a little fucky wucky switcheroo where my positive-positive was turned in to a negative-negative where the sunny wunny was said to be "what if hide from". Now: I do the same: watch:>only merely accepting the death because you believe it necessary for lifeActually, only accepting life because you believe it is necessary for deathOoooooooooOh snap *moves finger*!Now anon is a ""life worshipper"" and he worships life because he belives it's necessary for death.Aside: If anon was really a death worshipper, he would fuck as many women as possible to create as many births as possible, and therefore as many deaths as possible.>the unfortunate negative being a concessionI don't think it's a concession.Also: What if death worshipping anon is simply in no hurry to die? He can't worship while he's dead. If it is to worship death, he must remain alive to do so.
>>124287366>All ancestors are dead; Therefore: worship death.Then you are an ancestor worshiper, because what you idolize and care for is the ancestor, else you would worship rabbits and people who aren't your ancestors too. >Actually, only accepting life because you believe it is necessary for deathUtterly incoherent.>he would fuck as many women as possible to create as many births as possible, and therefore as many deaths as possible.Reverse, the purpose of death is to not be, it is stillness, it is nothingness, and so on and so forth. To kill yourself without birthing anything is more death than any amount of birthing could possibly accomplish. >What if death worshipping anon is simply in no hurry to die?Why is he staying alive - you suggest he stays alive to worship death, but the obvious reality is that if he must be alive to worship death (and thus prizing being alive), then he is once again: a life worshiper.
>>124287471This whole thing has reduced to a no true scottsman.
>>124287524Simply stating a fallacy is fallacious. You must prove it and argue for it as you would any other point.
>>124282998The best is whatever I'm listening to right now. Currently Ukrainian.
>>124287533I say it is possible for someone to be a valid death worshipper for reasons that don't involve their own death. Some possible reasons I listed here >>124286954For all of these reasons, you say "actually he's not a real death worshipper".Thus, no true scottsman.
>>124287568>I say it is possible for someone to be a valid death worshipper for reasons that don't involve their own death. Some possible reasons I listed hereAnd I say it is not possible for someone to be a valid death worshipper for reasons that don't involve their own death. Some counter reason I listed here >>124287471Thus no fallacy.As you can see we are merely back to the original starting point where you need to engage with my arguments. This is the case with informal fallacies like "no true scotsman", they are not hard logic based and instead only a matter of perception mostly. If you still believe you can prove the fallacy feel free to offer another argument for that case, otherwise let us return to the conversation hastily as I believe you said you wished to sleep soon.
>>124287631Yes you are standing at the starting point because MY arguments have not been countered! I don't believe in fallacies but "no true deathworshipper" is an accurate description of your argument. I don't believe in facts or logic. What I say is simply the truth. To convince me otherwise: present beauty before me. Then, if smells good, I shall take it.Imaging a nekro cultist who collects skulls. Is he not a death worshipper? This cannot be countered. If all a nekro cultist thinks about is death, he is a death worshipper. Even if he is alive. In fact, he could not be a death worshipper if he is dead. He does not want to die because no one else worships death as much as him and therefore no one will collect his skull. This nekro cultist eats and sleeps death. It is impossible for anyone to say he is not a death worshipper.
>>124287728>MY arguments have not been countered!Then you must argue for why they have not been. >I don't believe in facts or logic. What I say is simply the truth.Utterly incoherent. >Imagaging a nekro cultist who collects skulls. Is he not a death worshipper?A worshiper of skulls perhaps, a collection worshiper at best. Death are not bones, nor rot, nor disease, nor objects, death is the absence of life. It is more accurate to say death is nothing at all.
>>124287766>Death are not bones, nor rot, nor disease, nor objects, death is the absence of lifeThat's just like your definition, man.>It is more accurate to say death is nothing at all.Oh snap, that sounds like >>124286954>Nonexistence of the worshipper>Nonexistence of everythingWhat makes your definition of "death" better than the others?>Utterly incoherent. Blow it out your ass>Then you must argue for why they have not been. I must do nothing. My goal: stand. Your goal: convince me. Not successful!>worshipper of skulls>worshipper of graves>worshipper of dying animals>worshipper of maggots>worshipper of ashes>worshipper of collection lmaoWhen are you going to give it up and admit the nekro cultist is a death worshipper?>death is the absence of lifeBy your definition. >death is nothing at allNo thoughts? No desire? Perhaps buddism is death worship by your definition? Some of them are mummified while sitting. I don't see many buddhists killing themselves though. Perhaps most of them are false?
>>124287836>That's just like your definitionAs opposed to what? A definition that includes life? What is death if not the absence of life?>No thoughts? No desire? Perhaps buddism is death worship by your definition?Closer than a skull collector certainly, as Socrates himself said in Phaedo:>It seems likely that we shall, only then, when we are dead, attain that which we desire and of which we claim to be lovers, namely, wisdom, as our argument shows, not while we live; for if it is impossible to attain any pure knowledge with the body, then one of two things is true: either we can never attain knowledge or we can do so after death.Oh course for Plato just as with Buddhism everything still comes with the tag of the "soul", although Buddhism furthers this disconnection by suggesting you simply rejoin with what amounts to as a life stream in endless reincarnation. Regardless, in both cases there is still life after death, in fact both may really be a total rejection of death, eternal life either from a spiritual or physical standpoint is exactly that in the end.
I still remain unconvinced. I decide to go to bed. Good night!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol9_0schMHsOh for fuck's sake >>124287960Incels worship sex but they never have sex. Does this make them not true incels?>nekro cultist is not a real death worshipper because he does not wish death upon himselfThis is unbuyable. I'll bet you listen to Kultur.
>>124288039You are free to be unconvinced. Just as I'm sure any regular fellow is of your claim that whatever you speak is simply the truth. >Incels worship sex but they never have sex.If they did they would simply buy a cheap prostitute and be over with it. I believe instead they worship love and attraction, which they are denied, their worship comes in the form of researching why this happens and culminates in things like looksmaxing (and so on and so forth). Which is their attempt to shorten the distance between themselves and what they worship. Regardless, good night. At least I feel our conversation was not antagonistic, even if we did not agree.
>>124288121Well I'm pissed at how intellectually ineffective I am.
>>124288139I wouldn't say so, to even think at all is to be effective. Reading Plato is like reading a series of events where no party is ever victorious, only absurdity seems to claim a trophy after much running about and debate. Some people go their entire lives without thinking on what death is, yet they believe they know when they do not know at all.
>>124284766Banished by Falls of Rauros
