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Violin edition
https://youtu.be/qUj9yPEPouo

This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western classical tradition.

>How do I get into classical?
This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFh

Previous thread: >>124281572
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>>124297411
For me it's Modernism,New Complexity,and Claude Vivier.
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>>124297434
thanks RYMsister
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>>124297443
Classical is surprisingly not discussed much if at all on RYM. I think not falling very well into Album Format probably has a lot to do with that. Wikipedia and YouTube are unironically better resources for it.
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>>124297480
thanks for the insight RYMsister
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Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Symphony No. 1 in E-flat major
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkJm711K8vE
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZKknjcWW5k
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What's a good digital piano on a budget? I've been looking to get one and finally start practicing properly but I'm not sure which one to get. I've been primarily looking at the roland fp10 since the action has good specs and it's been praised all over but at the same time I hear a lot about how slow and heavy it is and I'm worried it's gonna be a pain to play in the long run. The other option was the kawai es120 but it's more expensive and I've also stumbled on the korg d1 which seems nice but it's weighted on octaves rather than individual keys. All I care about is the key action as I'll be using it with vsts primarily and I want something that will be good for anything and everything I'll want to play.
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summoning bach to obliterate sisterposter
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>>124297682
there are no good digital pianos, just get the one that's the most affordable.
>>124297693
not sure why i would be obliterated by good music.
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>>124297693
Haydn and Wagner both unironically mog. Italian and French Classical is ok but they peaked during Prog or Jazz I would say. Germans peaked earlier.
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>>124297818
thanks RYMsister
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>>124297832
You can be as dismissive as you want but you know I'm right. Italian and French contributions to both Jazz and Prog wildly overshadow their contributions to classical music,Claude Vivier and Piere Boulez not withstanding.
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>>124297856
LMAO
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>>124297856
so true RYMsister, so true
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>>124293354
I don’t get how these are early wouldn’t they be late?
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>>124297856
Hullo there Nico what brings you here?
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>>124297814
>not sure why i would be obliterated by good music
Lmao total SOIJAK comment
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>>124298034
saying that bach is good is soi?
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>>124298057
Kek yet another one!
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>>124297693
Does this really work? (The pentagram of fifths)
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>>124298104
saying that bach is good is soi?
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>>124298126
This one is just a repeat of the previous one. Not impressed
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>>124297411
https://litter.catbox.moe/fhffpp.mp3 violin concerto no 2 some guy named hoelscher and dervaux with new philharmonia
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>>124297869
Elaborate because the German Cannon sure as fuck overshadows the Italian one.
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>>124298244
Beautiful cover.
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>>124298244
Reminds me I should listen to Saint-Saens' various concertos again.
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>>124298361
it's from warners recent box set of saint-saens, which had been remastered by art et sons and released onto the market in the year 2021
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more modern recordings of Beethoven's solo piano music played at a slower tempo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxTokw6pVEY&list=OLAK5uy_mfwjsAlxUQUevDCgOlg8GbHBduliO_GpI&index=1

I don't outright prefer it but it's a nice change of pace and is sounding great to me right now.

Oh, and on that note, same thing but for the violin sonatas?
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>>124298156
i'm still waiting for you to explain how saying bach is good is soi.
>>124298242
great question RYMsister
>>124298495
whoever's running warner classics is doing a much better job than their counterparts at UMG and SMG, i just wish they worked a little faster.
>>124298503
we have a century's worth of recordings of slow beethoven, i don't think we need any more.
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>>124298503
no thanks i prefer non jewish performers
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>>124298523
>we have a century's worth of recordings of slow beethoven, i don't think we need any more.

This is slow even compared to the usual standard tempo tho
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>>124298546
so it's extra retarded? seems extra unnecessary.
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>>124298495
Reminds me of picrel. Simple nature(pic or art) covers are best.
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>>124298503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzS43ZUZsv4&list=OLAK5uy_l0wYczPEXtRltyk9N6VdpvKBiNLA8kUR8&index=20

14:03 first movement of the Kreutzer Sonata!
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>>124298594
hideously tasteless font and text placement
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>>124297411
i want Cecilia to play my dick like a violin desu
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>>124298594
the covers provided for the saint saens box have most notably opted not to immortalize the jew. the cover shared and submitted by you, on the other hand, cannot be argued to have shared the same qualities as the op.
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>>124297856
You know I've never listened to Claude Vivier before, any recommendations?
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>>124298503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5UbLXFy0Kg&list=OLAK5uy_nRpHC9a-JCWaykLLP2bXjldAPpOwSXKG4&index=1
arrau last recordings
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>>124298819
How have those covers immortalized the Jew?
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>>124297856
Not a fan of Debussy, Ravel, Faure, Satie,Saint Saens?
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>>124299108
not covers, just the one shared by anon. it has on its front written the performers down for the sake of posterity.
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>>124299190
Well what's the issue with Jewish piano players?
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Scarlatti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flXfVf_DEZE
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>>124299468
pills time
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>>124299468
>having a significant number of jewish performers *represented* in classical
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Needs a few more listens, but I think Gielen's performance of Beethoven's 7th might be my favorite from the EMI set. Doesn't really put a foot wrong anywhere.
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W.
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Well done Modjannies


Glen Gould Glenn Gould - Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 17 in D minor op. 31/2 "The Tempest"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPDBcdDGrnE&ab_channel=GlennGould

He brings up some of the points he stated in his Mozart programme
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>>124299552
really? i only listened to the first and the last movements and i really liked them. haven't listened to the oh so tricky allegretto yet. you like it more than his fourth?
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I only listen to jewish performers.
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>>124299747
Maybe. Like I said, still need a few more listens.
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>>124299758
my condolences
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>>124299758
I listened to Barenboim's Beethoven Pathetique this morning, the guy's killer incredible playing
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>>124299758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw1s7FioeFw
same
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One downside to the Clavichord is only really significant player on Youtube at least is Wim Winters
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>>124299792
listened to his allegretto, he strangely plays the grace notes at the end of the melody on the beat instead of before the beat as is standard. no idea what's up with that but it bothers me.
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>>124299847
Oh good catch, I didn't notice. Doesn't really bug me, though. Listening to his 5th right now, which is interesting so far, he reserves his energy until the end where it really crackles off. Really impactful sforzandi from the brass.
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Beethoven & Liszt & Glen Gould(& Wagner)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNZtRi5yaVE&list=PL0T6Hovb_TN4uoYNu12wbAnnlKpjQ3RuI&ab_channel=GlennGould-Topic
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>>124297480
Isn't the whole point of rym to support the person not the art
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>>124299961
I thought the point was to rate your music
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>>124299941
yeah, it's a kleiber family thing. no idea why gielen decided he needed to follow in their footsteps in that regard, because outside of that his 7th sounds pretty good to me.
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Although this is still the greatest version of the opening of Beethoven's 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VimNTQ6cU7s&ab_channel=WalterMurphy-Topic
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>>124299843
yeah it's a shame, lots of performers get unnoticed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88k6s-XT5-o
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>>124299975
I have to compliment the engineers for the 7th because it really conveys the antiphonal effects quite well. Even on other recordings where the conductor is actually using split violins, I sometimes find they're not distinct enough or the engineer messes around with the balances and brings then together more. Not here, it's a wonderfully wide sound stage. This set is not always successful as far as the audio quality is concerned - I think the Eroica sounds quite cramped - but that 7th is quite well recorded.
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>>124300022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NhDAepqo5w love this dude
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I am so fucking sick and tired of modern music. I am sick of the shitty overused electronic instrumentation. I am sick of auto tuning the naturality of human voice. I am sick of A.I. taking over the beauty exhibited by the Human race. I am sick of faggots encouraging and promoting this kind of mental retardation.

Where is the orgasm which we once experienced? The bare nudity of pure art which one could touch and feel. The horniness of this sexual ecstasy, exhilarating my mind. They are raping the very foundation of art, imbibing it with degeneracy little by little, like poisoning a edelweiss, like beating a young innocent child. Something has to be done about these WEF shills and the music they advertise, once and for all.
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>>124300245
>electronic instrumentation.
That stuff's great
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So we're all listening to Beethoven's 9th or string quartets or Wagner while watching the election result trackers, yeah?
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The Nico chan doesn't seem interested in responding so I'll just give this a listen

Claude Vivier - Zipangu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z603fJhnwA&ab_channel=Unpetitabreuvoir
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>>124300575
I don't wanna watch it in real time it'd be too painful, I just want to find out when it's all over or whenever they've found enough fake votes to swing it for Kamala
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>>124300575
listening to the Razumovsky quartets rn
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>>124300628
>>124300641
I have fond memories of the music I was listening to back in 2016, it really stays with you and amplifies the moment is why I had to ask.
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>>124300607
What did you think? I know it's cliche but my most listened to track by him is probably Glaust Un Seele? by a huge margin. Crazy song. Real mind bender. I like Lonely Child a lot too.
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>>124300719
I don't have any great thoughts on it or anything but it's quite good actually
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>>124300763
Right? He did some pretty engaging stuff. You check out Rith Crawford Seeger or Brian Frenneyhough at all too?
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>>124300575
tonight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oJle-dvlus&list=OLAK5uy_km7RTzZZuObhDRWUT-t7QSrxKRTZwJDU0&index=1
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>>124300719
>>124300783
thanks RYMsister
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Stravinsky

https://youtu.be/b_ffa05eOZc?t=12
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Glen Gould's transcription of uhm Siegfried's RheinFahrt from Wagner's Götterdämmerung

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJh9VtMWjjY&list=PL0T6Hovb_TN4uoYNu12wbAnnlKpjQ3RuI&index=8&ab_channel=GlennGould-Topic
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>>124300795
Fuck off sisterspammer
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>>124300989
thanks schizo sister
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Dickhead
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>>124301078
be kinder to yourself
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ2iN0mpwvY
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Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg, WWV 96: Prelude (Arr. for Piano by Glenn Gould)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9EwJNjJqi0&ab_channel=GlennGould-Topic
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>>124300575
Listening to Brahms' second piano concerto, Fleisher/Szell.
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Bach for President!
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>>124302012
Great recording. Gonna try Previn/Gutierrez of the same work tonight. The more often I listen to Brahms' piano concertos, the harder it is to listen to any others. The sense of scale, dramatic structure, heavenly and passionate melodies, everything, all the others seem so lacking in comparison, like they're mere trifles or miniatures. Pretty ones, to be sure.
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>>124303007
Try Richter/Leinsdorf if you haven't already... it's the gold standard for that piece
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>>124302572
Wagner won.
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>>124303833
James Joyce and Thomas Pynchon would be jealous.
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>>124303833
>he lost in the last thread AGAIN and just gave up and went to bed
LOL, looking sadder by the day
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The US is cooked. Glad I'm leaving.
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Kinda been thinking about this piece a lot these last couple of days, especially this performance.
https://youtu.be/-V69cDC603g
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>>124303939
FOUR MORE YEARS OF WAGNER
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What you dudes listening to to celebrate the funny orange becoming president?
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>>124304021
Feels like a Verdi - Requiem night. Dramatic, powerful, boisterous, righteous, magnificent.
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>>124303936
Yes I'm not insomniac like you sis
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>>124304033
pic is of America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaxQU_ZqAzA&list=OLAK5uy_lFoKqhflv4Fm0cMaghW0Sw3YU2XLSArts&index=1
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>>124304021
It’s not over till the fat lady sings
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>>124303995
Wagner would piss in Trump's face.
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>>124304191
Please don't talk like that about the President, thank you.
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>>124304021
Shostakovich, for rather depressing turn of events as US (unfortunately) gets to live for 4 more years.

Jokes aside, currently listening to Romeo and Juliet.
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now playing

start of Alkan: Symphony for Solo Piano (From 12 Etudes, Op. 39)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdCR4Xn3zKY&list=OLAK5uy_lvWn_gY8CYpTAZArqbSQqLdXXMOlYw_So&index=1

https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lvWn_gY8CYpTAZArqbSQqLdXXMOlYw_So

>Alkan's one of music's originals, a relatively neglected composer valued for his highly original, often visionary keyboard works accessible only to the most skilled virtuosos. Marc-André Hamelin certainly fills that bill and almost outdoes himself on this disc, playing with breathtaking virtuosity and imaginative insight. The Symphony for solo piano is just a four-movement work of symphonic scope and color. The opening Allegro is a tightly structured drama, followed by a Mahlerian funeral march, a vigorous scherzo, and a final blistering Presto dispatched by Hamelin with almost supernatural ease. The Symphony was part of an even bigger work, the Opus 39 Études, whose 12 pieces include Alkan's best music. The three brief pieces that follow have strong attractions, deep spirituality prime among them. The final three pieces from his early Opus 15 set exemplify Alkan the Romantic. Again, Hamelin makes light of their technical difficulties, while shaping them sensitively. Notable are Le vent, where the right-hand runs make you hear the whistling wind and Morte, another powerful funeral march. Vivid sound captures Hamelin's nuanced playing, helping to make this disc a must-have for pianophiles. --Dan Davis
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>>124304296
The most metal classical cover
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>>124304334
Fantastic music too! And here's the #2 most metal cover
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>>124304021
Mars
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Any mozartian piano concertos after the classical period?
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Pieces for this feel?
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>>124304479
Mendelssohn's.
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>>124304071
Sistine artwork looks weird before it was cleaned up
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>>124304586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7TuU5zxge8
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>>124304586
Mendelssohn, Schoenberg, Gershwin, Mahler, the list goes on…
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>>124304586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC1nC_449H4
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I hope none of you are listening to any nonsense like Mahler on this glorious day.
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>>124304021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxO6Rz4ADKI
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>>124305258
Why wouldn't they? Trump is the Jewish pick.
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>>124305258
I listened to The Nutracker while smoking a cigar outside to usher in the season.
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>>124304021
The only reason to celebrate his victory is that the world will become a bit more entertaining. This will do the job at the Soirée - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy2zDJPIgwc
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>>124304021
>tfw post-modern life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4I0v4q8HZ0&list=OLAK5uy_kYjdeZTnmbWfKD_VtXYC_KV5wN6d0X_T8&index=52
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_qUYtpZ7Rs
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>>124304063
yeah instead you’re a LOSER (and also indian) like little K LOL
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>>124306067
:O
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>>124304021
The Eroica.
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feels like a Brahms 3 day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srtTbTqSwrM&list=OLAK5uy_mFzJyx9YE-4m8rOoK3oyI_S3LOmaEoW4c&index=5
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>>124305465
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Mendelssohn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnFRRnhmVqM
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>>124297443
why are you retarded
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now playing

start of Brahms: Violin Sonata No. 1 in G Major, Op. 78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6YyF0zEVpE&list=OLAK5uy_mBt2bnLG2DewgJrMJbouG0k8sav68k4NA&index=1

https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mBt2bnLG2DewgJrMJbouG0k8sav68k4NA
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>>124306721
great question RYMsister
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>>124298889
ty
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>That incomparable Beethovenian Wilhelm Furtwängler thought the Missa Solemnis to be Beethoven’s greatest work. Too great, even, to perform. He stopped conducting it at age 44.

huh, interesting.

>The real issue is fathoming Beethoven’s transcendence. This is the first time in a traditional Catholic mass that what is known in Indian tradition as the permanent emotions — the erotic, the heroic, the odious, anger, mirth, fear, sorrow and the wondrous — all, as is also prescribed by this tradition, move toward tranquility.

>[...]

>From the start Beethoven’s Missa Solemnis, about 80 minutes long, grips the listener with the wondrous. But ever the neurotic, he then starts throwing feelings at you. Austere spirituality, expressed in quiet ancient modes for the resurrection (sorrow) and resurrection (fear), can be broken into by ecstatic vocal lines (the erotic).

hmm
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>>124306844
Classical listeners love using the word 'neurotic' it seems.
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>>124306844
>Too great, even, to perform.
translation: he wasn't good enough to perform it
>can be broken into by ecstatic vocal lines (the erotic).
what is this schizo bullshit
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>>124306938
lol you LOST TWICE lil bro, time to start getting over it
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Wit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2JBHqsA9W0&list=OLAK5uy_lm4BtNxe-wsYNhX8f8QT8kC-bFuz32scc&index=19
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>>124306972
>LOST
There's only losing and winning in your mind lil sis-bro
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>>124307285
and there's only losing for you LOL
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>>124307305
There is neither winning or losing for either of us. Your presence in this general is a loss for everyone, on the other hand.
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>>124307316
quite obviously untrue, there's only losing for you and you alone LMAO
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>>124307327
I said I won't stop this November, and I'm not going to, sissy. Your entire presence is a big L for /classical/.
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>>124307350
yes, we know you won't stop losing this novemeber LOL, your assblasting has only just begun
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>In a blurb on the back of this CD jewel-case, the Financial Times refers to Claudio Abbado as “the high priest of Mahler.” The paper should stick to finance. Despite the fact that he continues to issue Mahler recordings on both CD (No. 2) and video (Nos. 5 and 9) like some sort of one-man assembly line, Abbado’s Mahler remains as variable as always. In his latest incarnation, he seems to have awakened somewhat from the stultifying dullness that characterized much of his Berlin tenure. It may be that his recent battle with cancer served as a call to attention in this respect, and I say this in all sincerity, wishing him continued good health and well-being as a person. The problem I have with him professionally, though, is that this doesn’t mean that everything he does is worthy of being preserved for all time, and there doesn’t seem to be anyone out there with the guts to tell him that.

there's like four insults in this review opening, damn
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>>124307383
lol the butthurt is real, enjoy losing for an entire month straight you LOSER LMFAO
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>>124307474
>m-maybe if i can restart the spam chai-
nuh uh loser, you lost and you’re gonna keep losing. get used to it ROFL
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Only serious answers. I want to listen to classical music, but my father is a classical enjoyer and I don't want to get caught in the act. Recommend me classical music that he won't recognize.
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>>124307577
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDpH6mLg6Vg
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>>124307700
>please please won't you spam chain with me again?? please????
uh NOPE lol, stay losing loser.
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>>124304586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55FP1LfkkVQ
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>>124307849
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>>124307826
>please please please just let me continue the spam chain so we can pretend nothing happened
i'm thinking not! sorry, you lost!
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start of Grieg: Violin Sonata No. 1 in F Major, Op. 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4qCYgCOA3g&list=OLAK5uy_moN9oP-yCcLt_b5hfKNHd8dzvuhPZU4RA&index=2

start of Bartok: Sonata for Solo Violin, Sz. 117
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f57c0SUZr_k&list=OLAK5uy_moN9oP-yCcLt_b5hfKNHd8dzvuhPZU4RA&index=5

start of R. Strauss: Violin Sonata in E-Flat Major, Op. 18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb-zXJqNdu4&list=OLAK5uy_moN9oP-yCcLt_b5hfKNHd8dzvuhPZU4RA&index=8

https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_moN9oP-yCcLt_b5hfKNHd8dzvuhPZU4RA

>Vilde Frang, one of the leading young soloists to emerge from Scandinavia in recent years, brings together a diverse, yet complimentary selection of sonatas for her second EMI Classics release. The young Norwegian violinist has been noted particularly for her superb musical expression, as well as her well-developed virtuosity and musicality.

>Edvard Grieg's spirited Violin Sonata No.1 in F Major, Op. 8 and Richard Strauss's youthful Violin Sonata in E-flat Major, Op. 18 are paired with Bartók's technically challenging, musically complex Sonata for Solo Violin, BB 124, Sz. 117. Frang frequently performs the later, which Bartók composed as homage to Bach, with the Strauss in concert. Pianist Michail Lifits joins Frang in this recording.

>Frang's debut recording, Sibelius and Prokofiev: Violin Concertos received wide-spread critical acclaim. The Financial Times wrote "rarely has this music sounded so tender, so intimate or so lyrical" while Independent Record Review called her "prodigiously gifted". Frang has been compared to a young Anne-Sophie Mutter, her mentor, with whom she often performs. Born in 1986 in Norway, Frang has studied at the Barratt Due Music Institute in Oslo, with Kolja Blacher at Musikhochschule Hamburg and Ana Chumachenco at the Kronberg Academy.
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>>124308251
>he's still trying it
LMFAOOOOOOO
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>>124308341
keep trying lil bro, you’re still gonna lose no matter what
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Classical composers sure knew how to write music, but why were they so bad and unoriginal at titling it? They all use the same handful of names, every one sounding like some random Italian shit but misspelled, like undercooked food (Al Dente spelled Andante?), Allergetic spelled Allegretto, or a female's name Allegra but masculine (sexist?) . Is it metaphoric? If so, I skipped English class so maybe that's why I don't get it and think it's lame.
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>>124308194
Her Enescu Octet is goated
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>>124308433
Sadly not on YouTube Music :/ But in the process of looking for it I added a bunch of other recordings I wouldn't have, mostly hers and then one of the Octet + Mendelssohn's, so thank you anyway lol. If I end up loving the piece I'll consider finding it for download.
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>>124308377
bait is supposed to be believable guy
>>124308418
failing AGAIN as always LMFAO
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>>124308534
yep, it’s a failure. LOL.
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now playing

Elgar: In the South, Op. 50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9nFNzTDNjg&list=OLAK5uy_mGe3UFJwrZJK7gFuBCeAIvGKSkKnEpEEs&index=2

start of Elgar: Symphony No. 1 in A-Flat Major, Op. 55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4DzClGZVzs&list=OLAK5uy_mGe3UFJwrZJK7gFuBCeAIvGKSkKnEpEEs&index=2

https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mGe3UFJwrZJK7gFuBCeAIvGKSkKnEpEEs

first paragraph of the top Amazon review:
>It is pretty shocking that this performance hasn't received more attention or praise than it has. It is shocking because Slatkin's performance of Elgar's first symphony with the LPO is (as far as I know) the absolutely best version in the catalogue, and by some distance. Indeed, I am willing to claim that Slatkin's Elgar's first deserves to be counted among the greatest recordings made throughout the history of recorded music. Strong words, but the more I listen to it, the more I am convinced that they are appropriate. So what are the qualities that justifies this praise? Slatkin's Elgar is thoroughly idiomatic, vital, vibrant, swaggering, lushly colored and glittering, but more importantly it is imbued with an energy and sense of urgency that compares not unfavorably with Carlos Kleiber's Beethoven fifth.

With such "strong words," how can you pass!? Also, a tangent: man, people on Amazon when ranking something not only as a reference recording for a work but as one of the great all-time recordings in the history of classical music, will almost always use Kleiber's Beethoven 5 (and 7) as the example for comparison of stature. Off the top of my head, also Karajan's Bruckner and Michelangeli's Debussy, among a couple others I can't quite remember right now.
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Brahms appeals only to longhoused freaks and repressoids. The well-turned out and aristocratic man is naturally repulsed by him as he is by other items of academic bourgeois kitsch. He is the musical equivalent of a stag painting. I'm sure he goes nicely with your fat wife's fish jelly but he cannot speak to the soul of a Caesar.
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>>124308585
you’re losing, you lost, and you’re a loser. LOL.
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>>124308788
thanks wagnersis
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>>124308856
>the obsessed crackhead is trying to butt in
LOL, no one asked you lil bro. settle down.
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>>124308869
I was smoking your sister’s crack
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>>124308902
crackheads and indians are united in their inability to come up with insults other than (insert female relative here)
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>>124308377
Beethoven’s Baguettes
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>>124308918
>He's stop
(S)He'll* typo.
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>>124308919
Short pieces for such long French bread! Silly!
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>>124308909
And your momma’s rank ass while you sat in the next room waiting for your tendies
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>>124308918
Keep it up then
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>>124308918
LOL, you’ll never stop losing no matter how hard you try, loser.
>>124308936
thanks for proving me right crackhead
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>find two acclaimed recordings of Mahler's 6th I haven't heard yet and get excited
>look them up to listen to next
>Andante-Scherzo movement order
>deleted.exe.flac

sigh. Zinman's and Gergiev's.
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TRISTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

ISOOOOOOOOOOOOOLDEEEEEEEEE
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>>124309059
Tristan, I solde the house
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>>124309062
"I'm the best, Meister," she said.
"The best what?" he asked.
"The best, Meister, singer."
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>>124308976
thanks for the loss, loser
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>>124309001
gergiev’s mahler is dogshit so you’re not missing out.
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>>124309162
losing again? sure, be my guest, not like you can help yourself.
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkfGERe8GUI
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Any advice on learning music theory from scratch? I can play dadrock or drone or stoner trash on guitar, nothing super technical. I want to learn a classical instrument in college but even the first year music theory class encourages people to know their shit already.
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>>124308958
No worries thank for keeping it down while I fucked your momma
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>>124309152
Your opinion is irrelevant tranny janny
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>>124309613
try >>>/mu/ instead
>>124309622
she’s not interested in crackheads sorry.
>>124309632
didn’t ask, crackhead
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>>124309613
Check the wiki, search on YouTube, or look up the syllabus for Music Theory 101 classes at a prestigious university (eg. Yale) to see what textbook(s) they use and pirate them.
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>>124309676
most schools don’t tell you what textbooks they use because it varies from teacher to teacher, and for a required class for every student like music theory 101, there will inevitably be multiple teachers at different time slots to accommodate demand and all of them will have different reliance on textbooks and different requirements for textbooks.
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>>124309639
>she’s not interested in crackheads sorry.
Her prolapsed anus says otherwise
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>>124309639
The guy wants to learn a classical instrument and music theory, how is that not /classical./?
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>>124309701
I've done that exact thing before. It might have been a Yale Open Course so something publicly available anyway. Either way I found what textbook they were using and it was an informative and commonly utilized resource for education.
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Me waiting for discussion of Claude Vivier,Brian Frenneyhough,and Videogame Soundtracks:
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>>124309733
i’m afraid that’s just the crack rocks you’ve been smoking.
>>124309753
there are multiple theory textbooks that are used as a “standard”, all of them basically say the same things in slightly different ways. at the end of the day you’re still going to learn about SATB chorale writing, about roman numeral analysis, and about SD D T relationships.
>>124309782
so true RYMsister
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>>124309824
>there are multiple theory textbooks that are used as a “standard”, all of them basically say the same things in slightly different ways. at the end of the day you’re still going to learn about SATB chorale writing, about roman numeral analysis, and about SD D T relationships.

Okay? So any of them should suffice. What's your point? If you have a preferred, specific choice in mind, feel free to tell 'em.
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>>124309853
my point was that you might not necessarily find out what’s being used at yale based on looking through their course catalog, though if you were talking about some online class and not the actual in person music theory 101 course it’s a different story obviously.
i don’t really have a preference, but the theory book i’ve used the most is kostka payne. i say used in past tense because i haven’t attended a theory course in the last 2 years that’s used a textbook period.
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>>124309676
thanks
>>124309701
at least music theory isn't fictional bullshit so learning from one book will teach you about as well if not better than another book. I've learned from languages is that using multiple methods together is far better than having massive glaring weak spots that you'll never see. Latin has two "big textbooks" but this alternative method I used really rounded it out.

Is a piano mandatory or just a good aid?
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>>124309948
see >>124309883. also if you intend on taking this seriously then a keyboard instrument is highly recommended for 4 part chorale exercises.
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looks like a whole lecture series is on youtube
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>>124309824
Did you enjoy your tendies then TJ? Your mum says you get upset and throw a tantrum if they aren't cooked exactly to your liking
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I bet the sisterposter voted for Kamala
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>>124310009
it's incredible, the sort of things that crack rocks can tell you that have no basis in reality whatsoever.
>>124310014
are you willing to put $700k behind that the same way xqc put $700k behind kamala?
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>>124310034
>are you willing to put $700k behind that the same way xqc put $700k behind kamala?

God you really are a zoomer. You know those streamers get money from the betting sites as a sponsorship to advertise to their fans by posting stuff like that? Maybe some of the money was his, maybe not, maybe the bet wasn't real at all.
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>>124310054
don't really care desu, just love to see them suffer. why deny myself of high quality schadenfreude?
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>>124310034
>are you willing to put $700k behind that the same way xqc put $700k behind kamala
LOL-I'll take that as a yes
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Who is the xqc of classical music?
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>>124310067
sounds like your money’s going poof just like his lil bro. better try to withdraw it all in a panic LOL
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https://youtu.be/VbxgYlcNxE8?t=713

The most overblown triumphant ending in classical music. Out Wagnered Wagner
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now playing (again)

start of Britten: String Quartet No. 2 in C Major, Op. 36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfvHmuUJIs0&list=OLAK5uy_lc7hBNn939UU-LL3I3J1t5RhjK0UuS6tU&index=5

https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lc7hBNn939UU-LL3I3J1t5RhjK0UuS6tU

>The chamber music on this CD spans almost Britten's entire career, from 1936 to 1975. The Three Divertimenti were not well received at their premiere in '36 and Britten was "downcast." While hardly masterpieces, the stormy first movement's march, the second's calming waltz and the final, unsettled burlesque still hold the interest, especially when as well played as the Belceas play them. The first quartet's (1941) first movement alternates andante with allegro passages, while the second is a bristly march, the third calms the listener down and the final movement is upbeat. The second quartet, written right after the very successful premiere of Peter Grimes, is far more complex. It is in three movements. The first is an off-putting combination of depression and mania; the second, while outwardly perky (it's marked "vivace"), is creepy. But it's the last movement that is so masterful--a theme and 21 variations on a Purcell-like chaconne, which lasts 18 minutes and gives cadenzas to cello, first violin and viola. The Third Quartet, composed after "Death in Venice," uses one of its themes and is in five movements. It is a dark, forceful work with little joy--when it isn't nervous it's disheartening--but it is a fascinating and affecting piece you won't forget. The Belceas play as a team as brilliantly as they do during their individual moments. Highly recommended. --Robert Levine
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>>124309824
I was just kidding bro. Glad you took it well though. No harm was meant. I will say I think more modern compositions should integrate electronics though. (Yes I am aware that I actively decided to use less instruments and Whittier production in my own music. Yes I realize this is completely hypocritical even if I'm not really doing classical.)
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>>124310121
thanks RYMsister
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>>124310096
Lol...ok bro. I don't even know who xqc is btw Zoomer anon
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>>124310121
*Shittier
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>>124310130
neither do i, i just know that he betted a lot of fucking money on a stinky pajeet and lost it all, which i find immensely entertaining.
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>>124310121
Just ignore him Nico. He's a spamming shitposter-the worst on mew. He's nor responding in good faith
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>>124310131
thanks RYMsister
>>124310145
thanks schizo sister
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>>124308194
I love Strauss but that violin sonata sucks. The piece itself, not the performance.
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Mutter! Honeck! Berlin Philharmonic!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBLH72PDcs4&list=OLAK5uy_nbwVF2FuFH5rW7hvW7ZXLFGrE_OooVGh4&index=1

If you want a fresh, modern, and wonderful performance of Dvorak's Violin Concerto, and some other violin pieces on the playlist, check this out!
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So far I prefer the Pathetique to the Hammerklavier
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Rachmaninov
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KN3GmUtvaGE
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>>124310121
Nico when you hear John Adams do you think of John Coolidge Adams or John Luther Adams?
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>>124310377
worry not, maturity comes with time
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>>124308919
Oh wait it's "Bagatelles". He must have been a big pinball guy
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>>124310397
I hope this isn't the sisterposter, cause they are in no position to talk about maturity with anyone.
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>>124310377
The Pathetique is definitely catchier and more powerful emotionally, I wouldn't blame anyone for preferring it over the Hammerklaiver.
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>>124310454
The second movement especially
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>>124310397
Knowledge comes with death's release
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Wagner is Dionysus.
Schoenberg is Apollo.
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>>124310413
you're in no position to do anything other than smoke crack.
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>>124310264
>karajan sloppy seconds
no thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1PfgtsRgsA
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>>124310678
See this is what I'm talking about
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>>124310771
yeah, we know smoking crack is what you're talking about all day and night. it's pretty obvious.
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>>124310784
You just keep proving your immaturity



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