https://vocaroo.com/1e4XkhhkkTWM
Wanted some feedback on how this is shaping up. Mixing is a heavy WIP at the moment.

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since u kept asking 4 teh breaks

https://vocaroo.com/12ZtryhLjQ1h

>>124372906
>since u kept asking
Heh, I don't know who you are referring to, but no one asked for your anime bullshit wall of noise drum'n'buss(y). Heh, let's listen to this shit and see what slopcore you've whipped up this time
>https://vocaroo.com/12ZtryhLjQ1h
Nice, sounds great. Is that your playing on the guitar samples?

I've been practicing making and mastering rock music and doing this for a composition jam
https://vocaroo.com/1e5zPviYUdl8

>>124372672
sound nice and big, wish I knew how to boost mids without clipping

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Guys, how to make snare cut through a dense, bass-heavy, noisy mix?
I was listening to iglooghost's latest album the other day and felt that there was something unmistakably wrong about the mix, and now I realized that it was the snares, they just sound overpowered by other elements in the mix. I realized it because I struggle with this very thing in my own tracks.
Also picrel, wtf?

>>124373515
Sidechaining primarily, but also depends on what kind of snares samples you use. Some snares just doesnt cut through a mix.

>>124373515
you heavily sidechain your snare to your midbasses, no need to sidechain to the sub and then saturate the fuck out of it. most important part is to pick good snares that mesh well with your other elements

I'm trying to be simpler so I just used volca bass and piano for this thing and tried to keep it really basic. is the acid too annoying do you think? and a special message from me to you. https://vocaroo.com/1o5nR7QLNQvf

>>124372906
0h uu, nice as always
>>124373515
>how to make snare cut through a dense, bass-heavy, noisy mix?
like the other people said sidechaining but when I have snares I try to mix around them. like I'll cut a bit of the mids where the snap of the snare hits from some other elements if they can do without them.
>iglooghost
>unmistakably wrong
surprising, I seem to remember he was extremely good at not having that happen. I haven't heard his latest stuff though.
>Also picrel, wtf?
it is very annoying if you happen to mostly produce on a different machine to the one you usually post on kek. spiritually I belong but physically, I am a newfag by this new system.

>>124373063
You got the energy right, not bad at all, but I have some pointers.

It's overly compressed, I can hear the entire mix pulsing. My guess is that you have alot of bottom end on the kick that you dont really need that hits the limiter way too hard. Dont get me wrong, you want some low end on your kick, but it isnt trap music so you want the kick to be more punchy and clear in the mix rather than subby. Might help to look at whats happening in the low end of your bass and guitars as well if theres some unwanted lower frequencies that overload the limiter.

Additionally, this is just preference on my part, but you can also seperately mix and master the cymbals/overheads, making them cleaner and clearer. Meaning you mix Bass, Guitar, Snare and Kick as aggressively as you want them to sound with just cymbals there for monitoring and mixing, then you bounce bass/guitar/kick/snare without cymbals/overheads and add them later on top of the mix.

Nothing ircks me more about modern poprock mixing when the cymbals sounds crush or drowns in the mix whenever things get loud. It's the one thing that should add energy when things get loud or aggressive, they shouldnt disappear in the mix.

>>124373515
>unmistakably wrong
>it was the snares, they just sound overpowered by other elements in the mix
I don't know about this, it feels purposeful and works for each track. There's a few tracks where the role of the snare is filled by something that isn't a traditional snare sound, but cuts through just fine. There just isn't a strong snare presence on most tracks, but again, seems by design to me.

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https://vocaroo.com/1o5nR7QLNQvf hi everyone just a little special message from me to you. yeah, this is shaye saint john. wdyt? i am tbd actually, i just dont want the press to know so i wrote it down on my website. its not a lie if you write it down wdyt? well anyway, i got tbd about 2 weeks ago and its been carrying over to the next session wdyt? i did 2 modelling sessions under the influence of tbd. idec. but 1 thing i wanna tell everybody is that please, PLEASE send me some cards and letters to help me. they help me get better. especially when im feeling so down about being so tbd wdyt? so, in the meantime, while im out of comission yes i wont be doing any modelling sessions, movies or commericials or making any kind of public appearances while on tbd because i need to get back into the chamber and get on the wire therapy. so in the meantime, please just hang my poster in your room and worship it daily. touch it and feel it, maybe put makeup on it idc. but in the meantime tell everybody that loves me so much that shayes tbd and she just needs your help. because idk what ill do without it. im totally tbd. thanks, bye.

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>>124373814
erm.. no and.... no.

>>124373814
wow. the new system genuinely fucked up my entire post. nice. cool. ok it's been fun guys, I'll be back when/if they fix this shit. I hope it takes years.

>>124373856
k, bye

>>124373814
won't listen, won't read, but will hide your post. fuck you.

Hey guys, any tips on making hi-hats like the ones in the Agony OST or on the latest Cynthony album?

>>124373647
>surprising, I seem to remember he was extremely good at not having that happen. I haven't heard his latest stuff though.
exactly, neo wax bloom and the other 2 eps had these really punchy snares, but that is gone in the recent Tidal album. Everything, not only the snares, sounds super smashed together in a bad way, as if he just put some shitty "maximizer" limiter on the master and cranked it +20 db.

>>124373872
>how do I make such and such like (insert some obscure soundcloud shit here I assume everyone knows because I am a navalgazing twit) and no I wont provide any links other than vague information, sending you on a goosechase through youtube trying to find whatever the fuck it is I want you to listen to because fuck you. Then I will complain 10 minutes later than nobody helps me.
Do better.

>>124373911
https://youtu.be/yCd3rSPqpXI?si=nC_A3IwmKsFCxTcl 0:29

https://youtu.be/3URDCNWywBU?si=OLdFtJQ50DSLM5Bz 0:30

https://youtu.be/vHvVE6a5cuM?si=FOdQzEQzrkToElNw 0:39

>>124374011
Thank you, thats better

What I hear is just breakbeat/jungle/future garage top loops.
1st one, very future garage.
2nd one, future garage, but based on a older jungle loop.
3rd one just sounds like future bass.

You'll most likely find these in sample packs for future garage, future bass and jungle.
You can also search through looperman for freebies like these

https://www.looperman.com/loops?page=1&cid=1&keys=future%20garage
https://www.looperman.com/loops?page=1&cid=1&keys=jungle
https://www.looperman.com/loops?page=1&cid=1&keys=future%20bass

Can someone help me?

Why does my ableton randomly stop mid me working on a track?
Do I have too much shit going on?

The 1st instance earlier this morning, i was playing back clips in session view mode, drums, guitar and bass all going at the same time, suddenly the audio cuts out all the levels fall to zero, it freezes up, the display where it says what bar you’re on is stuck at whatever bar it froze on, I can’t make the clips start playing for anything, but I still have the option to save.

Now, I hooked my midi controller up, I was making a hip hop beat, drums, bass, samples, playing back, and I was adding in some vocal samples on top, and it just quit on me again, mid me working on it, everything went quiet, levels fell to 0, the bar display is frozen, had to save and quit ableton.

Anyone else dealt with this issue. I have a new gaming laptop, 3rd gen focusrite audio interface, MPC key 37 is my midi controller

>>124373681
This is awesome advice, thanks man I'll work on it.

this is what i was working on btw

https://vocaroo.com/1gYEYIEIlsxK

Any resources on producing alternative rock/metal a la late 90s/early 00s? Most stuff on YouTube is for shitty modern metal djent crap.

I plan to record real amps, not over-edit, use outboard gear, and not compress the life out of the song. Also avoiding the same "boosted high gain amp with V30 and SM57" sonic trope.

>>124374795
I'm trying to do this but with virtual instruments. I also hate how new metal sounds.
This is probably the best advice >>124373681

>>124373681
>you can also seperately mix and master the cymbals/overheads, making them cleaner and clearer
lol
>bounce bass/guitar/kick/snare without cymbals/overheads and add them later on top of the mix.
hahahahaha

This one's got big claws. I'm dying to hear one of your mixes

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woke up feeling like shit and made this

https://vocaroo.com/1gq35tw3s3l8

>>124375640
>I'm dying to hear one of your mixes
If you must, but I havent mixed or produced rock in about 8 years or so all I have laying around is some shitty demo from 2014 with my shitty guitar playing through freebie amp and cab sims from the time on it and it doesnt utilize the technique I was talking about.
https://vocaroo.com/18yhfLUCXLcI

>>124376102
Sounds good mate

>>124376162
thanks, I know how to slap together a half decent punkrock/metal mix.
It isnt really up to 2024 standards though, the drums lack meat, the guitars are dry as hell and I would probably utilize clippers alot more these days, back then it was just izotope ozone and slate slapped on everything.

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>>124376102
>>124376451
You haven't done the thing in nearly a decade yet you need to strongly weigh in on how to do it and insist you know your stuff, while simultaneously admitting you didn't know what you were doing? mix sounds like shit as well, why would you post this to back up what you said? would probably disregard your advice even if it was good cause you're clearly a retard.

>>124376661
I simply do not care about anything you have to say, it's as easy as that.

>>124376661
Why are you being such a faggot about this? The only person with a problem here is you.

>>124373045
Wut
My guitar yeah

>>124373647
Thanksss :3

Been dealing with writer's block recently. Come up with about 3 tracks a day, and they're all crap. Any tips?

>>124378116
>transcribe / remake songs instead
>polish any songs that you've been putting off finishing
>sound design
etc

how's this instrumental so far?

https://vocaroo.com/1aGkgvGeZNXk

>>124378116
often i find that if i learn something new, i generally will get inspired to do something with the sound

>>124378380
How do you mean? New chords? New production techniques?

>>124378380
production techniques generally, and generally synthesis

>>124378416
this was meant for >>124378399

>>124376661
his mix sounded great. Where's your music?
faggot

>>124378572
leave the dufus be, we have enough unconstructive arguing in these threads as it is

Anyone know how to make this sound effect? I don't mean the high pitched chirps but the 'downpitching' and 'segmenting', dunno what to call it. I've heard it used in breakcore.
https://voca.ro/1kQ2PWV2CKqi

might be an advanced question, so sorry if there isn't a simple answer but what are the white keys on a guitar and how do you map scales to them?

>>124379591
You're not funny fuck off

>>124372627
rate my attempt at breakcore in 3/4 time
https://voca.ro/16MCgFVlzDEz

>>124380065
6/8
Actually more like 4/4 with a triplet feel; I was bobbing my head in 4, anyway.

>>124380065
doesn't feel like 6 until the think break is slower. before that it's just messy and not really any strong pulse

>>124380065
Nice, sounds like Evergrace

>>124380065
not trying to steal your thunder but this your track interested me so here's my 10min take on 3/4 breakbeat
https://vocaroo.com/1n8bYvUA5cbw

>>124380346
>https://vocaroo.com/1n8bYvUA5cbw
pretty sure this is already a song

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>>124380355
that wouldn't surprise me, i used very basic synth samples since it was more a proof of concept than anything

>>124380346
now that i think about it, can you even have two snares in a bar when doing 3/4?
seems more like 4/4 with extra steps

>>124380408
>now that i think about it, can you even have two snares in a bar when doing 3/4?
if you're doing oom-pah-pah

>>124379591
If it has the dot underneath its a white key

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more minimal dumb little acid breaks because the mood is still weird and lazy

>>124380551
AHHH I CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT

https://vocaroo.com/1fUviHg8Clqp

>>124380559
Do you have anything that doesn't rape my ear pussy?

>>124380567
no, too mentally ill not to

>>124373814
very nice, reminds me of some pieces from jazz from hell by frank zappa

>>124373856
yeah weird, system seems to have written a whole lot of nonsense after your vocaroo link

>>124380567
a lot of stuff actually but none of it drives ENGAGEMENT

>>124380570
this

>>124380570
the composition is fine the actual tone and sounds are straight treble rape. My poor tweeters, you have some minor hearing damage if you think this isn't bright sounding.

>>124380551
do you ever make any atmospheric break stuff? e.g. cynthoni/sewerslvt-like?

you make the most interesting music in this general and you're probably up there with the most talented production-wise, but i feel like you make a lot of stuff that just jerks your production dick

>>124380589
i think he definitely does or he fucks it up on purpose because he's afraid people might steal it. i've never heard him make a tonally balanced mix

>>124380614
>stealing in /prod/
>stealing music in general
impossible you don't own sounds.
Member when music was an art and not a product? Thats like saying I wont give you my masturbation tips because you'll steal them.

>>124380623
You sound like a 14 year old who just smoked weed for the first time

>>124380589
https://vocaroo.com/1gvQYpmnkrUi
sorry

>>124380607
i am past that point in my life, but i do still make like, trancey stuff that's adjacent and tunes that have drawn the comparison before lol

>>124380614
i can't even disagree but i'll throw out that like half of the vocaroos i post don't even get associated with whoever you think i am;
like i explicitly remember posting like 5 songs once and got told to kms for 1, praise for 2 and neutral on 2 for all different styles by one poster.
...wasn't an experiment or anything, just a slow thread. it happens often

>>124380658
Better but that hi-hat is really rustlin my jimmies.
Don't change your shit for me I'm an anonymous retard who has no credibility.

>>124380687
nah i was already aware of the high end, i just didn't care because i don't plan on doing anything further with it.
... it was literally a 5 second fix like the drums are the only high end lol.

>>124380607
>stuff that just jerks your production dick
oh also forgot to mention that that literally is the point sometimes and my posts are just daily drafts so it's only natural that anybody would hear what i post that way lol

>get four hours of sleep last night
>go to work
>get back from work tired as hell
>eat
>sit down to just practice piano for a tiny bit before bed (thinking fifteen minutes or so)
>finish playing piano
>realize that my body aches like hell (didn't notice while playing)
>noided as fuck as if I drank a pack of redbull
>look at clock
>played piano for over three hours without realizing it
How can I bottle this for mornings?
>>124373814
I love this! Don't leave! I'll do the hand thing!
>>124372906
>>124380559
Very nice :3
I haven't touched my guitar in years; I'm afraid if I go back, it'll feel like a cheese grater on my finger tips.

>>124380714
>oh also forgot to mention that that literally is the point sometimes
thats fair

>>124380953
> >played piano for over three hours without realizing
That is THE best feeling bro
I feel like there’s a sweet spot of being tired or needing escapism where it’s just easier to enter the musical flow, but it’s impossible to keep that sustain that for multiple days lol

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that moment when you realize that whatever musical idea u had is not unique and has actually already been done to death, what you're doing is just a shittier copy of that.

>>124381077
execution>idea just do it anyway

>>124380953
>How can I bottle this for mornings?
my post didn't post :(

one of my techniques:

later into the sessions when you're past prime mental hours, leave yourself room to work on whatever you were previously doing so you can actually get excited about it.

kind of vague, but specific to my own workflow:
my standard way of writing melodies or anything is to get the patch, then make one or two clips in session view, expand those both into 16 bars and then let it branch into alternate versions with variation in fills, let the harmony or chord etc drift off to wherever i think the song might go, way busier or way more simple versions etc, reverse, double time the midi etc etc and then there's plenty of material to work into a full song structure.

... so instead of THAT i intentionally stop myself at 4 bars with a bunch of little loopable incomplete ideas.
that way the next day there's a lot of room to expand and it's super easy to just get into the zone using whatever's there.

>>124381304
Awesome -- thank you for the tips!
I didn't realize that even you use session view.
After you get your basic ideas down in session clips, does the next part
>expand those both into 16 bars and then let it branch into alternate versions with variation in fills
occur in arrange view?

>>124381371
session view is important for me lol

it really depends on what it is.
if i'm working with purely MIDI then it's typically in session view, but if i'm doing anything that requires resampling or doing audio choppage, that's all in arrangement view.

>>124381077
what band has that ever stopped, dgaf keep going

>>124381077
i don't want to listen to weird totally unique music, it has to fit a genre/mood and i can even tolerate a fair amount of cringe because there's not enough top tier content to fill hours of listening without getting too repetitive. the technical quality needs to be spot on though, someone said it can take like a $10-25k investment per song for artists who outsource their production/mixing/mastering in competitive genres.

>>124381077
unique doesn't necessarily equate to interesting or valuable or even art

>>124381077
You're trying to be unique like everyone else, you will sound the same.

https://vocaroo.com/1gmAUQTejFeA

First Snow in My Place this year So i walked around a bit and Made this thing to capture the Feels, idk.

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>>124384970
nice, very indie game.

>>124384324
Stupid

https://vocaroo.com/1dxlTGFI6xzD

i will probably change up the lyrics at some point and im not happy with the verse vocal melody but i think chorus, solos and guitar and bass tones are fine
what do you guys think?

>>124386066
>https://vocaroo.com/1dxlTGFI6xzD

the solos are on point and the transition between the "soft picking part" > solos > "strumming parts (chorus?)" is good. I think you need a turnaround or transition from the strumming parts to the "soft pick parts". these are all just my personal opinions. cool song.

https://vocaroo.com/13ZakkUgt3Hi

would appreciate some feedback on my work in progress song. I'm still writing lyrics for this but have a melody in mind that loosely follow the bass. I think it needs a guitar solo somewhere, too. feedback on the mix is very welcome, too.

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>get an email from akai about some workshop
>cool
>sign up
>join
>it has nothing to do with the mpc

>>124387959
Thanks mate, i really appreciate it. Glad you like it. I feel like ive been improving since i really tried my best this summer to produce more and improve. I can hear the improvements, too, which is great. Hopefully it will lead to something
Also, i could probably add 1 bar between 1 st verse and 1st chorus as a buildup, thats a good idea

worked a bit on this melody every few months for the last five years or so. I wanted to shelf it several times, but always saw some potential in it. Now I made a version that sounds passable to me.

https://vocaroo.com/19BNNrWbdUjR

Now 5 years for the B-section

>>124388009
that sample is from the potion shop or what it's called from Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, isn't it?

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A beat a day 18
This one is actually random garbage edition
https://voca.ro/1ayzb6DQjhqG

>>124391207
This is what I imagine Daedelus's early music to have sounded like; LA beat scene circa early/mid 00's

cascading crystalline shimmering synths!!

https://vocaroo.com/17HS4YcK3oDM

>>124391291
Why did you trick me into clicking

>>124391371
embrace the melody :D

>>124391291
bit heavy on the reverb on the vocals
they're quiet in da mix at times too

>>124391207
not a big fan of this one
got no low-mids (and no bassline?)
snare rolls are a bit painful too
good experiment i guess

>>124389327
nicely done

>>124391385
Thanks for the feedback, it's not finished yet I'm hoping some lessons will improve my singing and I can get it sounding really polished. Is it sounding alright besides that?

>>124391424
id try some sections where you run those ethereal synths through a lowpass, it gets a bit exhausting listening to so much high frequency content on repeat
singing lessons = good idea, but i think the idea you're going for with this track is a good one. dont be afraid to come back in 6 months and re-record vocals and mix the track down again

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>>124376661
haha you are such a loser

>>124391452
tysm, great advice yeah I felt some of the highs were a bit jarring at times. giving a track a few months to sit and come back to can make a huge difference I'll do that

Did a Doors/Rolling Stones-esque jam. Why is blues so fun to play bros?

https://vocaroo.com/1do3URkUQPww

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daily
a no-eating-day, i fear ._.

https://vocaroo.com/1gcxBNEturFP

>>124392407
https://voca.ro/1nFWy12LMam7

>>124392461
Ty

>>124392476
no ty your music is inspired me

>>124392407
really like your drum sample choices here. kick sounds good.

the gated bass sounds good for the first part, but at 0:30 I think you need to drop into a sustained bass instead of gated.

is there a really quiet vocal sample at 0:12? if so, get rid of it - it caught my ear and doesn't fit tonally

cool track tho, enjoyed listening to it

>>124391889
the blues are based and always good to go back to, but i don't hear that at all in what you posted. it's not on time or in any key. you got my hopes up for nothing

>>124392561
>0:12
woops, stray delay tail, major-minor 6 swap ._.

good suggestions..,..,, thanks

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https://voca.ro/113cC3Qk1Iwg

Can anyone with not super shit speakers like me give this a listen and tell me how the mix is? It would be much appreciated as I only have my shitty computer speakers and phone right now

>>124393296
it sounds unintentionally lowfi

>snatched a vocal from instagram
LETS GO

>>124393296
It’s intentional…well it’s supposed to be at least. What makes it unintentional sounding?

>>124393447
Meant for
>>124393306

>>124393296
I think the mix sounds fine for what it is, but what the fuck happened with those drums? Sounds 'off grid' in a really unpleasant and messy way, so if it's intentional, then it's just plain shit, otherwise maybe revisit the timing on those drums before worrying about the mix.

>>124389327
lovely composition anon, playing was a bit stiff/lacking expression at the start but got much better as it went on

moar cascading synths!! I'm quite happy with this one, I feel like I'm seeing some progress

https://vocaroo.com/1eYwH3UGl7eV

>>124372627
3/4 (or 6/8 or whatever) breakcore but better: https://vocaroo.com/19nffgDPfKCo

take a listen

>>124394158
fuck you, cunt

>>124394808
??

>found out about the accompany feature last night on my Casio
Holy shit the piano is basically a DAW. The best part is layering and being able to transpose the instruments too. Last night I spent over an hour just playing the songs I know over and over. It felt like I was making remixes. Now I just wanna learn more songs. I can basically be my own band. I'm so excited to jam this weekend with my friend. It feels like really fun practice to just fuck around on with notes, jump around the keys every 16 bars, use the fills and variations. I would like to find some piano exercises i can utilize with this now if anyone has a suggestion.

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>>124394425
that's actually in 4/4

>>124388009
me
>>124389336
I'm not sure if you mean this for someone else. I did not use any samples other than some snare and kick samples mixed in with my drums.

>>124393747
I’ll try to make them still “messy” but in time. Thanks for the feedback anon

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Using Spitfire Labs 'Percussion' cause I'm fairly new and just need to put some drums in to my WIP, but there's something fucked about their kick sounds. Sounds like the kick drum is full of polystyrene balls or something. Sample of it here: https://vocaroo.com/11Ki2ejsAebM
Is this actually an issue or am I overreacting? I've seen this specific LABS kit being heckin updooted on leddit as a good free option, and most of it does actually sound quite nice, but there's also quite a few of the sounds with this weird muffled noise mixed in with it and I worry it'll cause issues later on, even if it initially sounds ok with other instruments on top. If anyone can suggest a better option for organic sounding drums to go with guitars/bass etc., this retard would be grateful.

>>124396495
Sounds like a normal acoustic kick with some snare rattle bleed. If that bothers you then pretty much any other drum library will have samples that were recorded without it. ezdrummer, superior drummer, tons of kontakt libraries like mixwave or abbey road

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Feedback welcome :) https://nameruk.bandcamp.com/album/sorry-001

>>124398978
NO SHILLING IN PROD

bass tables feel like cheating tho :/

>>124389336
NTA but as far as I know the music for N64 games were made with common synths, I recognized the sound too but it's not a sample

>>124396495
When you're done programming your drums, just open up another instance of it where you only play the kick and turn the room mic off, probably just bleed from the overheads.

What's the best way to hear your own track "objectively"? I do stop for a few hours and then come back, it usually helps me hear the bad stuff, but after a few minutes I'm accustomed to the track again

>>124399194
>tables
When is m8 going to go up for preorder? I need tables!
Nah, just kidding, I just want something I can use while lying in bed.

>>124379591
youtube: learning the fretboard

>>124401098
Reference tracks of course, that's actually the single best advice for aspiring producers

E, G, A, B, E
B, D, E, F#, B
G, Bb, C, D, G
D, F, G, A, D
A, C, D, E, A
E, G, A, B, E

>>124401098
end game audio
-headphone schizo

references, good monitoring, and actually taking the moment to switch monitoring (headphones, different headphones, laptop speakers, phone etc) helps a lot as well. references.

pitch the song up or down. references

>>124401740
I forgot to specify, I'm not a producer or anything, I was thinking of the composition part. Sometimes I think I have a great melody and then come back and it sounds bad, and so on. Which is a good thing, that's why I wanted to know if there's a way to do it while composing

In my restless dreams..........
this was completely unintentional but lol

https://vocaroo.com/1d5mkudULAmN

>>124401796
it's very subjective other than the basic music theory of scales/modes and harmonic series. as long as the melody doesn't sound completely retarded you can probably flesh it out with other production elements and turn it into a decent songs. also look at songwriting concepts like verse/chorus/bridge and dynamics, tension and release

>>124402061
sounds good, wheres the rest of it?

>>124402099
in my clipboard because it sounds too
https://youtu.be/Q95kw_pBXu0?>>124402099
si=aVqEKMgUMQo4oXgY&t=30

idk i started this project intending to do something like off Tim Hecker's Radio Amor, but i may come back to that idea if a way to expand it becomes apparent

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i'm the backwards man the backwards man i can walk as back as fast as you can the backwards man the backwards man

https://vocaroo.com/18KhLP5wqcmj

>>124402068
thank you, I know the bare bones of music theory and I haven't properly analyzed songs

>$2300
lol
lmao

No one liked this? I thought it was well produced or am I delulu?

>>124394158

>>124402549
no one's going to take your tracks seriously till you get further through your singing lessons lad
posting without vocals will probably get you more replies since people won't be distracted by the your singing

>>124402549
maybe try melodyne and compressors and whatnot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnbnQNGrFDs

>>124402549
>or am I delulu?
anon, be for real and do not listen to >>124402595

no amount of processing is going to fix it or make it "passable"

>>124402549
I like your work, Anon and the Full Effect.

>>124402610
see >>124402604
the trending section of the default youtube music page always shows songs from my country and the average botted gangster rap is autotuned horseshit, it doesn't take much to do better. charli xcx herself uses autotune a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca3czV_lZJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY-cuF2nrr8

wonder what set off the schizo, he's been going really hard the past few days speaking absolute nonsense and inserting himself here

>>124402642
the singing in that second video is atrocious, even after applying autotune

>>124402642
>it doesn't take much to do better
apparently it does because you still sound like shit

are you seriously the plugin schizo?

>>124402720
the plugin schizo is the pop slop schizo is the headphone/in ear monitor schizo is the sound quality schizo. it's all one guy who doesn't even produce music but thinks he's "helping" producers by annoying the tits off of them posting links and being condescending

>>124402729
I'm aware, but I found it odd that he would say the exact same type of shit out of nowhere while punching down on rap and randomly mentioning charli xcx out of nowhere.

>>124402729
lol cope i've learned 90% of what it takes to be a pro producer in the span of months while you're lacking basics like analog distortion after 10+ years

>>124402749
i mean specifically horseshit like this which is a type of fraud or money laundering:
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=ImL5IMlFNPE
the guy in >>124402604 sounds a bit like the synth pop anon and he could benefit from that type of processing

>lol cope
not an argument. you say this every time you're wrong

>>124402549
Do not say delulu ever again

>>124402778
>i've learned 90% of what it takes to be a pro producer in the span of months
i actually laughed out loud

i'm gonna start saying this whenever somebody tells me i'm wrong about something in this thread.
that never happens because i'm always right, obviously, but if it ever does i'll think of you qt
*pats your head*

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whats with everyone acting like schizos when talking about some hypothetical schizo boogeyman who frequents this general?

>>124402938
>hypothetical
you're either an extreme thread casual or you're gaslighting

>>124402938
they're extremely defensive, they don't want to learn new things or spend money on equipment. they don't want to believe that they've spent 10+ years barking up the wrong tree

I did anon's >>124402604 Charli XCX technique and rerecorded the vocals, I think it sounds better

https://vocaroo.com/1oBQJembPiiH

>>124402621
ty reggie stan!

>>124402938
I have a guess the schizo is a guy I knew from a /g/ discord. He said he trolled on /agdg/, and the schizo here was on /agdg/ before invading /dmp/ and /prod/

>>124402959
ive been here for 8 years

>>124403714
doesn't mean you're frequent

also that's very sad

>>124403398
yeah that's a lot nicer, you'll btfo magdalena bay and that type of stuff before you know it

>>124403760
also same

i had a dream last night (your post revived my memory, i've been trying to forget them lately because they're terrible) that i was at what must have been some type of musical instrument expo, but the building was something like a large, sterile airport where people apparently love the fucking sun because all the outter walls and ceilings were windows.
it was overcast that day.

anyway, i saw andrew huang there and wanted to sneak a picture to post here, but then he spotted me and told me what a big fan he was of my music so i felt shitty and left to be alone and go tinker with the newest synths.

in a secluded area there were a bunch of goofy semis/modulars arranged in a radial pattern that looked to be for a ritual.
... after just a few minutes of examining the super deluxe spiritual successor of an ms-20 i rigged up something insane. crazy sounds. heads were instantly turned it was such an intense sound....

so intense in fact, the thing started smoking, caught flame, and the rest of the synths encircling the small crowd that had accumulated to bare witness to my sound design began to glow.
suddenly the building began shaking in what seemed to be an earthquake, which was dubly alarming because the whole building was actual set upon pillars in the middle of the fucking ocean.

it was full on disaster mode, waves crashing through windows, people swarming and screaming along with now blaring sirens into this cacophony competing with the overwhelming ringing of the synths.

...i joined the masses fleeing in no particular direction, hoping to find anybody i would want to be with in our final moments, but as the flooding began to overtake us all, i remembered there was no one.

>>124403880
AI can turn this post into an aphex twin track

>>124403952
>literally who

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but anyway...

daily [ambient]
https://vocaroo.com/1k5J4Klt6izN

>>124403776
Nicee, get hype, we’re all gonna make it

>>124404112
Holy heck!

gang what are the thoughts on learning to mix better?
i've heard it's a lot of carving and obviously what sounds good is probably good, but sometimes i don't really know how to approach getting good sounds in the first place
for example i like the kicks from dead end friend - four year strong but i wouldn't really know how to process a kick to make it as punchy without exacerbating frequencies that sound yucky per se. it also fucks me up cause i know all the drums are triggered lmao
some combination of compression+EQ maybe?

>>124404112
comfy, would also probably make a really nice jungle track sample

>>124404502
>mixing
> compression+EQ maybe
Something I wish somebody forced me to understand sooner is the whole thing about the mix starting at the arrangement and sound selection.

If you pick the exact right sounds and play them in the right spot at the right time, you end up needing wayyyyy less EQ.

What’s more important than what you do to your kicks is what kick you pick and what’s playing at the same.

If you’re using the same popular samples from common splice packs (me) there’s often very little you need to do other than maybe repitch it so it’s in the right spot, and soft clip/saturate if it wasn’t already pushed. SLIGHT transient shaping for some of the stuff that comes softer.

There’s more involved processing you can do like printing reverbs, getting your width and all that, but it’s icing on the cake.

If you’re finding that you need to boost or cut like, a lot, you either picked the wrong sample, you’ve got clashing sounds, or you’re doing a whole other game of sound design, which is a different conversation.

>>124404631
>Something I wish somebody forced me to understand sooner is the whole thing about the mix starting at the arrangement and sound selection.
the first thing i tell retards but they don't listen, because there has to be some secret trick
1. you can't fix shit sounds
2. if you can't even volume mix things without compression and eq, then there's no helping you.

every time i see someone ask advice, they don't even have the bare minimum of basic competency or experimentation. just a bunch of idiots wanting shortcuts to everything without doing any work

>>124404671
Everybody bad…. Angry…. Uh huh…

>>124404718
Bruh, remember what you told me.
Senpai, I am disappoint.

>>124404718
none of those words or sentiments are in that post

Kali LP-6 studio monitors are nxt lvl, I highly recommend them

>>124404878
I have no self control I spend it all in the DAW every day

>>124404631
ahh that does make a lot of sense.
i guess maybe i am putting way too much emphasis on what processing should be like rather than what sounds i'm picking
sound selection is mostly a matter of experience i would assume? at least beyond a super basic level. inb4 it's supposed to come naturally lel
also would you count sidechaining as cutting or no?
>>124404671
>not sure how "offended" to be because i'm not sure if i'm being called a retard unjustly, or being called a retard because i said something actually retarded, if i'm actually just retarded, or if the post wasn't even directed at me
anyways there's no way people think that you can just ignore setting levels right? like that's literally the easiest thing to do

>>124404631
>>124405051
oh also i wasn't quoting you obviously i just wanted a different text color

>>124405051
wasn't mentioning you, just using the royal retard

>anyways there's no way people think that you can just ignore setting levels right?
99% of the people who ask for help mixing here and elsewhere online. hence the lack of anyone knowing what they're talking about because everywhere is flooded by beginners

I used to make weird experimental techno when I first started learning how to produce. Is this style worth going back to and refining? Idk its pretty out there I can't tell if I like it looking back

https://vocaroo.com/1k6a3DQ5ih0X

>>124404502
>for example i like the kicks from dead end friend - four year strong
huh, the kick is barely audible. as in the punchy on-beat transient that would have a fundamental frequency in the subbass region on an EDM kick or an 808.

>>124405479
Do you genuinely think this beginner trash is a style? You just didn't know what you were doing, that's not a style. What do you make now? Probably better to focus on that instead.

>>124406707
its experimental bro

>turns off metronome and doesn't even try to keep a steady time
yup, i'm experimental now

what kind of equipment do i need to mix drums?

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>>124407207
Metronome: OFF
Quantization: NO
Grid Snap: NONE
Tempo: NOPE
Key: VARIOUS
Style: EXPERIMENTAL

Lads, it's time get fucking OUT THERE.

>>124404112
I like it

>>124404112
[spoiler]KÄHONE[/spoiler]

>vocals transposed from f#min to emin
>bassline is in f#min allegedly
which one is in the wrong key?
https://voca.ro/1pX607j24uib

>>124408451
update

i think i got it to work with a different bassline notes
https://voca.ro/181WS3dkqR02

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anyone still creating Christmas song?
I'm thinking of a caroling of the original lyric for 12 Days of Christmas.

On the twelfth day of Christmas, my true love sent to me

Twelve lords a-leaping
Eleven ladies dancing
Ten pipers piping
Nine drummers drumming
Eight maids a-milking
Seven swans a-swimming
Six geese a-laying
Five golden rings
Four calling birds
Three french hens
Two turtle doves and
A partridge in a pear tree

https://youtu.be/8jgFgE4snWk
https://youtu.be/A8FdRvu_6MM

whenever my mix don’t come out right i cope by listening bad trap music (mostly gunna)

alright last update for today

https://voca.ro/1gdIbhQclKUP

more arrangement tomorrow

holy fuck splice is so bad these days, what the fuck happened

>>124411279
how could it have possibly gotten worse

>>124406707
>>124407098 Not me lol, here's some techno I made earlier this year

https://vocaroo.com/1oi1k9SUPyki

https://v3.streameast.to/boxing/event/10750528444368454
Datsik vs Gavern live right now

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Music and sound in general is so much fucking fun. Running the bass through the sampler, adding fx's and just Having fun tonight.

>>124414002
I thought it was the other Datsik lol

>>124414086
>fun
Not in MY thread

>>124414123
Is it not?

>>124414190
you CANT STOP ME

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daily ii --
same recordings + brass re-re-resampled

https://vocaroo.com/1nSPeG3URoqK

Do you guys think I can get pretty close to Death Grips' synths sound design with Vital? Or do they use sampled sounds?

>>124415077
yes you can and yes they do

heya prod
do you know if i need a mixer to plug electronic drums (Td17) to studio monitors (Eris 5)? Would it be beneficial if i want to use them for my desktop pc too? I hear they are not ideal but I really don't wanna get a zlx 15 when I'll be playing at low volume (live in an apartments building)
Also, what's the right way to get low latency if I plan to use a VST? I currently have an audio interface so I guess I have outputs for the monitors, but I hear they introduce latency. would a mixer make any difference? do mixers even output sound from a computer?

>>124415259
thanks for giving me hope big bro

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A beat a day 19
Organ donor-y edition
https://voca.ro/1j8TA8fiLovZ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3tYd_X9nTk

>>124415017
really beautiful, especially love the climax at the end
>>124415481
i like the groove but overall it feels quite limp

https://vocaroo.com/1iyuRcClgAwr

>guitar/ambient/singing

Finally made something different to synth pop lol, dreamy little ballad :) I just through it together in an hour, hopefully should sound nice and polished over next few weeks

https://vocaroo.com/14PPUM5ZYhxB

>>124414231
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viacheslav_Datsik

>>124416574
hate to shill for a website but for the sake of everyone who might click on your vocaroos, consider trying audimee

>>124416574
are you "cascading synths" guy? if so, this sounds much better than the last tracks you've posted
try get a better piano VST to play, that one sounds fucking terrible (it sounds stock)

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hello /prod/
https://vocaroo.com/1iZgm4uz5JAC
sampled aretha franklin’s “people get ready” for this one, still a wip
thoughts? feedback? improvements? would be appreciated

>>124373647
like this a lot
>>124374507
don’t really get the concept here
>>124375953
enjoy the atmosphere on it, very melancholy
>>124381077
just make stuff you enjoy instead?
>>124389327
you really know how to map scales

>>124418102
Yeah that’s me, yeah I just used logic stock Steinway and played it on my laptop keyboard haha, glad it sounds better overall anyway cheers

>>124418224
speed up and turn it into footwork or else

>>124418102
it actually comes together a lot better with some reverb

https://vocaroo.com/17THzW6jFd7S

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=kiqHYcKmFfw
what a shameless grift, it's like an AI made a technically legal knockoff of goetye - somebody that i used to know. maybe it was even literally made by an AI and then re-recorded by humans.

>>124373515
High shelf the treble by 10 -15 db maybe more

>>124419209
Lily allen 2.0

>>124381077
i literally play with samples so i dont have this problem lol

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYo9-9nem14

>alt-trap
>my 12th project so far
>completely self-produced
pls r8

>>124419898
because you just know right from the start that your shit has already been done and there is no doubt about it?
>>124420344
wrong thread, bro

what's a good 2 track tape machine that can do at least 15ips for less than 1k

Can someone help me with the synth chords right at the beginning of Black Dice by Death Grips? How do I recreate it? Is it like layered with a pad too?

https://youtu.be/-7w62joaRto?si=zugM90Nqwv5eN1vF

>>124423554
post your attempt

>>124423554
Detune square type wave, unison
Single notes no chords

Idk your understanding of theory at this point but I already did that track and recall that that riff doesn’t really line up with any scale so just go with it

Can you believe this shit is 105bpm?
https://voca.ro/15dAtjYxvFZx
Tell me if you enjoy it or hate it.

sucks bad and sounds bad autistic

why are looping beats frowned upon when literally 70% of music is extremely loop dependent and repetitive.

>>124426012
creator's vs consumer's vision

>>124426012
> 70% of music
Because that literally isn’t the case and that’s a small subset of music.

It’s not even “looked down” on, it’s more that people here can’t pull that off, and whenever a vocal gets thrown on top it’s blatantly obvious that they think this covers up that they can’t pull off the style they’re going for.
Even in loop based stuff (that’s actually good) there are a bunch of small details that most people don’t notice that contribute to the quality, and in minimal arrangements each individual element has to be *good* good, which again, usually isn’t the case.
People are lazy or don’t know any better

>>124426121
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JCa3pHn8Po
lol this is basically just a copy paste job. most mainstream shit is liek this.

>>124426154
Get away from me

>>124426012
why do people ask questions based on multiple false premises

>>124426154
retard moment

>>124426121
>Even in loop based stuff (that’s actually good) there are a bunch of small details that most people don’t notice that contribute to the quality, and in minimal arrangements each individual element has to be *good* good
ok explain what makes burial - archangel good

>>124426296
>spoonfeed me answers to my stupid question while I’m being rude and stupid at you
Yeah okay
Go try to remake it right now and tell me how “simple” it is

>>124426335
what a retarded hypocrite faggot. you said people don't know what makes it good so I ask you to explain it and then you come up with this retarded reply saying it was rude. tell me how was I supposed to word that post to not be rude. maybe calling you sir, or king, or ma'am, or asking if you had a good day first? you make a video remaking that track since you're the one saying you know about shit

>>124426433
I have zero way of knowing whether you were the one who just called me a nigger.
I’m checked out of the conversation either way.

Regardless, what I said stands.
Try to remake it and see how much you notice. I’ve also done that track already so I’m aware.

>>124426473
do you know what website you're on?

>>124426296
the sum of all its parts, the offbeat and atmospheric elements that cement the overall groove and the fact that it has proper turnarounds and phrasing. the song is constantly adding and taking away background elements to play with the negative space created by the minimal drums and to keep things interesting. which is something that a lot of people here who post loop based dance music fail to understand.

>>124426531
>adding and taking away background elements
that are copy pasted throughout

>>124426482
Clearly

He doesn't.

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who here /jungle/?
https://vocaroo.com/13GpScp5sLaw
https://vocaroo.com/122Hr0Y3bGzN

>>124372906
Fuck yeah. This goes hard.

>>124378707
Sample stretching.

>>124380065
Hell yeah. Breakcore needs more odd times.
>>124380346
This is beautiful.
>>124394425
Here's a 10/4 loop.
https://vocaroo.com/149yh4kWpjx1

>>124392407
sounds good.

>>124393296
sounds like ass in a good way.

>>124402061
erm u forgot the breakbeats, I got u tho dawg.
https://vocaroo.com/18k0MhD6kmdO

>>124402201
cool pad. can I geet it?

>>124428033
>Here's a 10/4 loop.
Neat

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this is such a fucking slog

https://vocaroo.com/1jTjUUVVkYPv

nearly halfway there

>>124428368
I like this

>>124428368
looks cool. i wish my projects looked like this but i also like a minimal approach

my brain is fogged i need help 8(

https://vocaroo.com/11J4nqDjYBjR

>>124428368
Back in my day each instrument had its own track and that was it. Simple as.

>>124428368
So glad I can keep under 10 tracks..

>>124428596
>>124428584
>>124428470
yeah trust me i am not happy it looks like this. there's a decent amount irreducible complexity but a lot of this is my own doing and out of laziness. it fucking sucks, for many reasons, to work on a project this big

>>124428576
Pretty nice. Almost sounds like robotic vocals calling and responding with each other, but in a smooth motorized movement way as opposed to the usual harsh in your face dubstep growl way.

>>124428660
yeah edm poisoning has made me start to like talky basses but only every few weeks

>>124428744
>edm poisoning
How dare you

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>>124428576

>>124428796
>>124428802
idk what is implied here but sorry i think maybe

>>124426154
yeah there's a lot of overrated mid tier songs, and the average musicfag is a profoundly inept tranny (especially in less famous/indie music). it shouldn't be impossible for someone to get their shit together and make decent music themselves, at least on the level of trannies if not better.

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I'm just proud of this solo is all :3
>https://voca.ro/1mPPJCObqC33

>>124428802
Dont be Rama Rama anon

>>124419241
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=KR4qArdHhls
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=aDrTvdTKuao
there's something annoyingly generic or cheesy/campy about these imo

overall thoughts on this house project?
any idea to make the "reese" hit fuller?
https://voca.ro/1m8AlgsUdJjj

>>124432247
cut the highs before the drop so there's actually a contrast.
give it way more low mid.

You really either have to rewrite the track so it actually goes with the groove that the reese tries to imply or just take it out completely.

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https://vocaroo.com/1cWR3HcpwjNP
updated the track
>new bass (not sure about)
>some more pizazz
>slight changes in the mix
almost there

>>124432674
>https://vocaroo.com/1cWR3HcpwjNP
Idk bro. It just doesnt work together for me. Got potential tho. Going to wait for ur next thing.

>>124432247
Not really my genre, sounds fine to me.

>>124428368
>https://vocaroo.com/1jTjUUVVkYPv

Awsum, what mic u use? How to make ur main vocals sound like this?

>>124424017
>https://voca.ro/15dAtjYxvFZx
Didn't hate it, its just newbie type thing. Why would i hate on it if i understand that. Just stop with ADHD thingmaking and try to be productive. I wish I would understand this and act on it earlier.

>>124434041
>https://vocaroo.com/1jTjUUVVkYPv
thanks friend. my mic setup is jank, i've been meaning to pick up some more proper mics at some point. vox are just an sm7b, mic'd super close, like an inch away. rest of the vox sound is just eq and parallel compression.

most instruments are double mic'd equidistant with the 7b and a 57. some are mic'd close + room using an mxl v63m and 603s respectively.

>>124432293
>cut the highs before the drop so there's actually a contrast.
>give it way more low mid.
will do

>rewrite the track so it actually goes with the groove that the reese tries to imply
i might just take it out
i wanted to use a sound for the drop and tease it in the break
but in the end it just sounds cheap
>>124434041
>Not really my genre, sounds fine to me.
thank you anon

Bump

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Reposting
>jamming last night with friend for the first time
>it goes really really well way beyond either of our expectations
>played rhythm from either s360 or drum machine in ableton
>friend fucks around on guitar while I play random keys
>or he tells me what to play on my bass
>dip in and out of sync but the moments we are in sync feel fun
One thing we couldn't figure out was how to record my bass and his guitar at the same time. He has a CODE amp that can be plugged in via usb. For my bass i have it running through the 404 so I can add FX's which uses up both slots. I can just plug it straight into the interface without the 404 and have an empty spot. The problem was we couldn't figure out how to get the sound from the amp into the interface so we could record at the same time instead of separately. There was a spot marked F/C on his amp, we tried taking a cord and Plugging it from there into the interface but couldn't get it working. If anyone knows what we were supposed to do here could really use the help.

How can I start writing lyrics?
I mean, should I compose the instrumental or the lyrics first?
Also, how the fuck do I turn words into music? How do I create a melody to the lyrics?
I can very easily create a very neat instrumental, but when it comes to writing down lyrics and then turning them into music I just can't fucking do it.

>>124437934
how do you fucking breathe without asking for guidance and help from experts

>>124437975
now that you ment.... HOLY SHIT I'M SUFFOCATING HELP

>>124437934
Sometimes words come first, sometimes melodies come first. You can always tweak either one to better fit with the other.
I suppose if you're struggling with turning words into melodies, uh, try singing things that you read -- this post, your post, new articles, magazine articles, whatever.

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>mfw

>>124428368
Don't do this, keep track count low

kinda wanna start making sewer slop

splice anon, what are the go to's for vocals (one shots mostly) that would fit for ambient stuff?
loop spamming for tops? particularly modern house and garage stuff.

>>124441050
good luck finding good ambient pads and chord samples in packs
theres a billion break sample packs out there, but much less hihat/top packs

>>124441696
>ambient pads and chord samples
a fucking what? who would do such a thing

i require the help of an *advanced* sample user

>>124439718
Is there any known instance of a producer being sued for unlicensed drum one-shots taken from a pirated pack or from another song?

nevermind i'm gonna go nap for 3-5 hours and re-fuck my sleep schedule a little more wooo0000

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>>124442291
Very pleasant.

Bros, what is a good mic for vocals? On a budget. Probably at2020 right? I want clear recording with zero noise. Never recorded using a mic before though.
>>124419898
Anon, if you think that hasn't been done to death yet, you're deluded. Hip hop, dance music (french house etc), ambient, you name it.

whats a decent microphone for recording foley and samples. say if i wanted to go out in the woods and record some shit

>>124441768
yeah wtf, benn jordan and venus theory type of pads and arps presets are abundant

>>124442694
Thanks I might make more like this for a couple days idk

>>124443016
Sanken CO-100K