TRVTH NVKE #1: American post-punk is better than British post-punk.TRVTH NVKE #2: Most of the famous and beloved British post-punk bands suck dick. Especially Joy Divison, PiL, Wire, and XTC.TRVTH NVKE #3: The Talking Heads are also shit, which is probably because David Byrne is British.TRVTH NVKE #4: Your "super cool", "obscure" British post-punk bands, like This Heat or the Pop Group, are still garbage.
only good band here is pere ubu. devo is onionsrock and sounds like the aquabats, chrome is ac/dc riffs with random noise pasted on top, mission of burma is a shitty knockoff of gang of four, and wipers are boring generic sounding shit for only the most insufferable xoomers
>>124436743Back to the Oasis thread with you, foul Anglo
>>124436743Wipers were the best Punk/Alternative band of all time retard
>>124436783lol, you probably unironically think nirvana was "important" too
>>124436797first 3 wipers were more progressive than any English albums. The sole English track that can compete is Pil - Public Image
>>124436743>chrome is ac/dc riffs with random noise pasted on topIs that supposed to be an insult? That's exactly why American post-punk is better, it has some actual balls to it.>>124436797Of course Nirvana was important, only an idiot would suggest otherwise (the exact sort of idiot that likes Onions Division). They aren't the most groundbreaking band musically or anything, but they're very culturally significant.
>>124436827>>>/r/music
>>124436797Nirvana were very important
>>124436696trvke
>>124436743Took the words right out of my mouth. The states had bands like the gun club and the fleshtones and OP picks that shit
>>124436743>>124439252If you think Mission of Burma or Wipers are bad, you have no soul.
>>124439252>the fucking fleshtones of all bandskek what the fuck is wrong with the english?
>>124436696>American post-punk is better than British post-punk.Who knows? But The Fall is the better than any american or british "post punk"/rock artist.
>>124436827>culturally significant.i bet yu must like tylor swift, beyonce, kendrick lamar big fucking faggot
>>124436696truth nuke n. 5: op writes like a big fucking faggot
>>124442357>>124442423L for homophobia
>>124442471I don't think I've ever seen you comment on post-punk before.
>>124436696Pil and joy division don't suck you mong, pop group also made way more interesting shit then fucking pere ubu holy fucking kek >>124436743This niggas true as well, Devo got so boring so fucking quick, gang of four have more longevity, I couldn't even get through mission of Burma it was so boring and soft cock, wipers are also the same level of gay, back when I was a tryhard edgy le esoteric /mu/sic listener I thought chrome were great, but listen to royal trux instead, if you had just said royal trux and pere ubu you might've had a point, either way PIL mog EVERY SINGLE BAND HERE
>>124442955>This niggasWhy are you typing like you're an American Negro, you prissy English faggot?
>>124442471L for being a faggot, not homophobia by the way, there's a difference between me hating you for being a faggot and me hating your sexuality, I'm a flaming homo myself kek
>>124442970>I'm a flaming homo myself kekget off of my board faggot
>>124436696didnt read past first couple words but yeah americans are better than british. Everyone likes to act like we're the bad guys but truth is we're just the ones televised the most. Cause we're the best
>>124442968English he says, fuck your nationalism you fucking drongo bigger how about grow your own fucking brain and stop riding your ethnicities cock, fuck I hate faggot pussies, pere ubu are so fucking boring Russia needs to nuke you stupid fucking burgers, I actually live in Somalia by the way
>>124442974Boo hoo I'll fuck your ass and you'll love it pussy
>>124442970>>124442974L for homophobia
>>124436696I'm British and I think everything American is better
Shit thread.
>>124436696I can accept trvth nvke #1 but the others are garbage bait
>>124436696Byrne was Scottish.>>124443155Correct. Most posts in this thread aren't even written in English.
>>124443435>Byrne was ScottishOkay? The Scottish are British, so this is irrelevant.
No way, English post-punk overall was way bettert. American
>>124443058When are you moving to the US?
That Devo album is better than the entire genre of post-punk, easily
>>124443548I mostly agree. Post-punk is one of the biggest meme genres in all of rock. There's maybe ten good, or even just okay/alright, post-punk albums at most.
>>124442955>PIL mog EVERY SINGLE BAND HEREBased and true. Adrian Borland himself mogs everything here too
>>124443525Eventually
>>124443792Hope you enjoy it here! :D
>>124444578I love the United States and Americans!!! I love you!!!!
>>124436696TRTVH NVKEOP is a faggot
>>124436696>likes Poseur bands like Pere Ubu and Chrome>doesn't like This Heat or Pop GroupNot sure if b8 or trying too hard
>>124436696Siouxsie and The Banshees, Killing Joke, The Chameleons and The Sound are better than every band in the OP pic
>>124444653>names 3 of the shittiest british post punk bands and killing joke
>>124436696>>124444671XTC are so far and away better than all of these American bands, and the fact that you can't see that proves you're a massive retard. And a faggot as well.
>>124444671>3 of the shittiest british post punk bandsOK now you're baiting
>>124444691L for homophobia, and XTC are hands down the shittiest band mentioned in this thread so far. unbearable reddit shit
>>124444728Fuck off, tasteless faggot. You haven't even listened to them.
>>124444782No, he's definitely right about XTC. He's wrong about faggots though.
WIPERS shit on on all English acts combined
>>124448185TRVKE
>>124436696Hard disagree. British post punk did it far better than american bands ever did. The wipers are more of a punk rock band that went a little post punk. Devo are new wave. Mission of burma had no interesting or original ideas imo. Gang of four, killing joke, joy division, siouxsie and the banshees, the chameleons, and new order all did it better than most american post punk bands ever did.
>>124444782>>124447873L for homophobia
>>124436696Which country had the best post punk scene besides UK and USA? Russia, Poland?
>>124448347>The wipers are more of a punk rock band that went a little post punkThat's the exact reason why they're one of the only good post-punk bands. Post-punk is a pretty shit genre for the most part.>Devo are new waveThey're both new wave and post-punk. And they're also very good.>Mission of burma had no interesting or original ideas imoThey're a very unique band, what do you mean? I haven't found any other band that sounds quite like them. I do think their discography is a little uneven, but their best songs are incredible.>Gang of fourToo English sounding. Their faggot accents and their commie nonsense bothers me. Instrumentally it's fine, I guess?>killing jokeThey seem okay based off what I've heard, but I haven't listened to that much from them.>joy divisionThey're terrible, this is faggot garbage.>siouxsie and the bansheesThey have a few songs that I like a lot, they're alright. John McGeoch is a very underrated guitarist.>the chameleonsFaggot shit again.>new orderThis band might be even faggier than Joy Division.>>124448363You're gay.>>124448380Yugoslavia.
I like both scenes, but I can't fucking stand Joy Division. They have 2-3 impressive songs and the rest sounds aggressively boring. The albums are underwhelming. Go4 were the best English Post-Punk band
>>124448436Why are you like this? British post punk had better ideas and better execution than american post punk bands ever did. The strain of punk they brits were pulling from was also much more fresh and innovative than their american counterparts. Ramones were alright but the damned and the sex pistols really made punk political. American hardcore is leagues better to english hardcore 9 times out of 10, but english post punk and punk is far better thsn americsn post punk and punk 9 times out of 10
>>124448454What do you think is the best American post-punk band?
99.9% of post-punk is bland garbage. Keep arguing over the best shit sandwich, but just be aware you listen to awful music.
The best post-punk band is from Australia
>>124448472>British post punk had better ideas and better execution than american post punk bands ever didCan you not read in between the lines and see that I generally don't like post-punk? The ones that I do like are exceptions, and most of those exceptions are American.I think I prefer the American bands because they're normally not as atmospheric or just, well, "gay sounding". I think their sound has more intensity to it. It sounds more masculine.>The strain of punk they brits were pulling from was also much more fresh and innovative than their american counterparts. Ramones were alright but the damned and the sex pistols really made punk politicalI definitely do not agree with this. I don't like the Damned or Sex Pistols at all. The Ramones are one of the only famous 70's punk rock bands I even like. I like the Stooges too if you count them as punk.>American hardcore is leagues better to english hardcore 9 times out of 10That's true, but hardcore punk also usually sucks.
>>124448436>>124448529L for homophobia
>>124448529Your music taste sucks, and I say that respectfully. I support your right to suck, but i still think your music taste sucks. The atmospheric and open sound of post punk is what is great about it. The chameleons, gang of four, and joy division are great.
U2 - War is better than all the classic English stuff except Entertainment!
>>124448560>The atmospheric and open sound of post punk is what is great about itI've never liked any atmospheric music like that. I like good guitar riffs and heavy drums. Preferably if the vocals are a little catchy and melodic to go with it.>gang of fourI almost liked this band at one point because they do have the cool riffs, but I just couldn't get over the singing and the commie bullshit.
>>124448638>commie bullshit.which of their lyrics do you disagree with?
>>124448657Off-hand, I remember that the lyrics in Not Great Men kinda bothered me. The Marxist obsession with historical materialism is annoying and stupid. And then, y'know, the band itself is named after some Chicom bullshit.Most of their songs are so fucking preachy. I don't like overly political music in general.
>>124448711That is why your music taste sucks. Gang of four were preachy but had reasons to be outspoken. They did what they did real good.
>>124448743>had reasons to be outspokenNaming your band after a faction of Chinese communists is some of the most lame poser shit imaginable. These were privileged English faggots LARPing as "revolutionaries". They said nothing of value and had zero political impact. I have far more respect for actual Chinese communists than I do for these pinko LARPers.
>>124448796You just don't get it man. They were great. They were vocal and political. Real good stuff. You suck.
>>124448821>You just don't get it man. They were great. They were vocal and political. Real good stuff. You suck
>>124448821Are you even old enough to post on this website, young man?>>124448835Exactly the sort of bullshit I mean. It's all a LARP.
>>124448835>>124448851Fuck you, you don't know nothing. I don't need to prove my age
>>124436743>>124442955>>124448347I did not realize Burma filtered the British so hard. They're one of the most inventive and creative post-punk bands, wtf.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbBBl9jjW0U>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeVJUEPKcg0
>>124448929I'm not british, i'm american. Mission of burma is kind of stale. The brits did it better.
why is no one talking about Minutemen? They played go4-like Post-Punk. Really good
>>124448969Do they really count as post-punk?
>>124448976Obviously
>>124448976https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsdyteDbC_Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUGmW3mygi0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHq454x-xoQ
Is early REM post-punk?
>>124449050there's jangly, funky, reggae and wavy post-punk. I think they were jangly
>>124449064Okay, then American post-punk is definitely better than British post-punk, this shouldn't even be a debate.
>>124449073The Smiths are better than REM though
>>124449233Aww, that's so cute, when'd you first find out you're transgender? :3
Whats up with all the Gang of Four dickriding in this thread lmao. They're pathetic one album wonders and that one album itself is incredibly one note
>>124449322because Entertainment! is the sole coherent and consistent among the English post-punk classics
>>124449404>consistentYeah, in the sense that they write the same fucking song over and over 13 times
>>124449486not really, entertainment is far from being the most diverse album in the world but I mean the first two songs alone are pretty different from each other
>>124449515It's so funny, up until I finally listened to the rest of their albums, I've always thought that their monotonous, samey songwriting style was a deliberate move, like it was a concept or something. Turned out it wasn't lol, that just how they're naturally wrote them. Opener and closer do sound different from the rest of that album though, I'll give you that, but the "best english post-punk band" is a stupid reach, I'm sorry
>>124449322Because the English are tastelets
>>124448969Funky shit
Is Big Black post-punk??
>>124442471>t. triggered faggot
>>124450206Yeah, influenced by The Fall
>>124448476Tsmt
>>124436696Does The Idiot count as American or as British? Because that's clearly the best post-punk album.
>>124448821I'm trans btw, not that it matters
