>over 30it's over. your time to make good music has passed. your creativity is gone. all the best albums were made by 20 somethings. hang it up.
>>124448152Objectively false.
>>124448152It’s over after your early 20s really
>>124448498It’s over before it starts
>>124448498True actually. If you haven't released your first album with some success by 21, you are never going to make it.
>>124448724That was in the past. Nobody makes money from music anymore, even those artists with billions of streams on spotify make nowhere near as much money as C list artists in the 60's and 70's
>>124448498Yeah, that’s what dinosaurs (but like the lame ones) tell themselves all time to feel better. Meanwhile I’ve only completed my fifth masterpiece and I’m already swimming in the bitches.
>>124448152Rick Beato is a midwit archetype
>>124450562He's our most knowledgeable public intellectual.
>>124450594I enjoy his interviews and his analysis content. He seems like a nice guy and is a decent speaker, but he has trouble with high-level thinking. He can't see the forest for the trees.For example, he had a view where he was answering the question "why don't you have interviews the Jimmy Page, etc?" His response was that despite having millions of subs, he is still only about 1000th ranked on youtube. Hence, these big stars aren't aware of him.But the issue with his argument is that he doesn't realize that he's not being compared to all youtube channels. For music analysis channels, he is in the top 5.And with OP's hot take, he makes some good points, but also ignores all the examples of creativity from older artists and the fact that there are other factors at play than simply loss of creativity (ie. desire to avoid repeating oneself, comfort from success, etc.)
>>124450594"Public intellectual" is a shitty category.Public intellectuals are just a bunch of people who compare their dicks to each other.They're trying to figure out whose intellect is more public.It shouldn't be about "intellect."It should be about reason.They should make their knowledge available for everybody.Not just the people who are "fans."
>>124450594He's boomer Fantano
>>124450594>literally any YouTuber>an “intellectual”
>>124448152>>124448498>>124448724>>124448836Debbie Harry was 34 when Heart of Glass came out
>>124451488>lead singerAKA she didn't actually make anything and just sang over other people's music
>>124451576just like michael jackson
>>124450594For me it's Norman Mailer
>>124448152the best works of music were made by people over 30
>>124448152
>>124450659>nice guyalmost everyone who has worked with him has said how much of an arrogant pretentious jerk he is.
Its simple, people in their 30s often have more family and financial obligations and often have tried ans failed to make music work as a career path. If there were more incentives for someone in their 30s to make music they could easily, its not to do with creative atrophy but motivations
>>124455208Examples?
>>124455208He has a right to be. He was a literal professor of music and sold over 2 million records. He went on to make a youtube channel with over 4 million subscribers. Lets hear what you've done with your life
>>124448152This principle doesnt really apply anymore because the white boomer party rock era is over, thank christ on a crutch
>>124448152My rick beato ngmi thread got deleted and I was given a warning for making a non music related thread. The nerve of these mods, maybe they need to lurk moar and catch up on the meta before deleting on topic threads and issuing put warnings
>>124455188ahahah so cringy redditthanks, im not gonna search this asshole
>>124448152Eyedress is like 34
This guy's a poor man's Chris Ott.
You'll never make anything good after 30, unless you're a genius like Rick Beato who wrote the hit song "Carolina" by Parmalee at age 46
>>124450562>Rick Beato is a midwit archetypethats why he's perfect for what he does. he has all the midwit takes that that plebs can relate to, but he has "perfect pitch" and understands theory and so can ask artists questions to make it seem like he's deeper than all the others, whereas he's basically like any guy working at guitar center
i love it when he talks about how insanely good krist novaselik is as a bassis
>>124448152not true. i had a creative resurgence at 31 and released 3 albums in 2 years. sure they didn't do numbers, but they're objectively my best work
at 30 you can still make music but you just need to get over the fantasy of playing on stage and being a famous rock star dude which is fine.
When Franz Ferdinand dropped their first album Alex Kaoranos was 32
>>124448152I'm 27. I don't want to be an icon or a celebrity. I just want to make something that I am personally proud of and embodies my life and the journey to become the artist that I am. If it reaches people, that would be good. If people actually listen to it and feel that what I am creating is genuine that would be nice. I know the way people are, it's unlikely; generally, people want music that isn't from the heart, but just follows a pattern of mediocrity and reinforces their delusions, but I'm going to complete it and put it out there because that is what God has called me to do. It's my purpose.
>>124451488Yeah but she'd been a professional backing singer since the 60s
>>124455311I disagree, I've been trying to make music since my teens and I'm 30 next month and have still gotten nowhere, and I'm a NEET with a connective tissue disorder so I don't have the usual obligations I'm just untalented. And I've felt myself getting more retarded as I get older, around 25-30 especially. I used to have a lot more imagination and focus in my late teens. This despite practice throughout.
>>124460072and Alex Kapranos was playing in bands and a known figure around Glasgow since the 90s. These aren't very good examples anon
>>124448152serj tankien was 31 when system of a down released their first album
>>124448152You're forgetting the music that's written by songwriters other than the actual performer. Then there's also guys like Jelly Roll whom no one knew who the fuck he was until this year (he's 39).