what's your favorite pre-Nevermind alternative rock album? i've been digging this stuff lately. pic related
>>124448437Joshua Tree
>>124448437You just posted it.
>>124448447i tend to forget U2 were alternative rock but i guess you're right>>124448451holy based
>>124448455After Reckoning, my favorite would probably be either Is This Real by the Wipers or Zen Arcade by Husker Du.
>>124448464are wipers generally considered alternative rock? i know they were a big influence on cobain but i generally see them classified as good 'ol punk rock.zen arcade is dope by the way
>>124448482I would say the Wipers count as alternative as much as Husker Du does.
>>124448552hmm i see.what do you think of sonic youth anon? i tend to see them ranked as the best alt band of the 80s and i think they're cool but they're not really my favorite one.
>>124448437I don't understand the hate for Fables of the Reconstruction.
>>124448617it's hated? i tend to see nothing but love for IRS era R.E.M. Sure, people tend to have a favorite like Murmur or the OP album but generally i don't see hate for any of those albums
>>124448599I don't like them. I would recommend Polvo instead, which is a far more interesting band.>>124448617Yeah, I don't get it either. Fables is one of their best.
Obvious answer would be Doolittle
>>124448842No, the real obvious answer would be Bleach kek
>>124448437WIPERS first 3 .
>>124448842yeah that's a classic pick. not Doolittle but i revisited Surfer Rosa shortly after Albini died and i really appreciated his production on it
>>124448842>>124448885Surfer Rosa's better
I urge everyone to try Wipers again. The more you listen, the better it gets.
>>124448726Polvo Solitary Set is good. Reminds me of Pavement
>>124448482The Wipers practically invented alt rock
>>124448999trips of truth
>>124448437Good taste, anonCan’t give you a definitive answer, but I like Chopping Down the Family Tree-My Dad Is Dead
>>124448437>Nevermind: Released September 24, 1991>The Word and the Flesh: Released September 13, 1991I made sure before posting
>>124450803this so much
>>124448437There's a Ritual de lo Habitual thread already up. That was probably it for me.
>>124450803that's a cool guitar (G&L looks like) so I will listen
>>124448617the band themselves didn't like it, they freely admitted iti think that contributed to its reputationi don't get it either, it's one of my all time faves
>>124450803I didn't care for this band, but the guitar work was cool. Thanks page hamilton
>>124448437Does "All of REM's IRS output" count as an album
>>124448437Pylon invented all of this shit
You're Living All Over Me
MurmurReckoning starts off with three amazing tracks then falls off until it climbs back up with Letter Never Sent then falls off again
>>124451910Camera is their first dud song
>>124448437Probably this one, that's where the JAMC got good for me.
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>>124448437i used to think this was r.e.m.'s peak but now i think murmur is better. chronic town too. everything after those three is second-rate r.e.m.
>>124448617can't get there from here is shit
>>124448482I kinda think of them as a new wave band, like the same era as television and talking heads. probably more properly post-rock
>>124448437Idk REM didn't seem like alt-rock to me, more like pop-rock.And putting Pixies in the same basket with REM makes no sense.But maybe it's because this alt-rock label was retrospectively applied to a lot of those bands from the 80s that defined it before it got mainstream.Even though themselves were not alt-rock.
>>124454244back in the day they were called college rock.
>>124448482>punk rockAnother vague label I never knew what it meant precisely.Like all those bands that did rock influenced by punk in the 80s, but were not really weird/goth/experimental enough to be called post-punk?
>>124454244REM are pretty widely credited with popularizing alt-rock, they only really got poppier with Lifes Rich Pageant. I think you have it in reverse and what people define as "alt-rock" became more narrow as time went on. Kind of like how Black Sabbath is a metal record with a bluesy harmonica on it.
>>124454244I consider REM as like the baseline of what alt rock even is so that's kind of funny to read, they did get a LOT more pop influence as they went on though. Automatic always felt like a pullback to me, Everybody Hurts and The Sidewinder Sleeps 2nite notwithstanding. Most of the album is pretty antithetical to a pop sound.
>>124454299Should clarify that I brought up Automatic in contrast to them generally including more pop elements at they went on, it feels notably out of place and kind of its own thing compared to the rest of their discography at the time.
>>124454205>wipers are post-rockWtf am i reading
LovelessJust for a Day (Slowdive)The Stone RosesNowhere (Ride)Heaven or Las Vegas (Cocteau Twins)Daydream Nation & Sister (Sonic Youth)Gish (Smashing Pumpkins)Ten (Pearl Jam)
>>124448842thisalso the reason nevermind exists
>>124454244This is some of the most retarded revisionist zoomer nonsense I've ever read on this board
>>124454244>But maybe it's because this alt-rock label was retrospectively applied to a lot of those bands from the 80s that defined it before it got mainstream.That's basically the precise inverse of what happened lmao
>>124454327No, Is This Real? is the reason Nevermind exists.
>>124454357it was the Pixies that inspired Nevermind
>>124454493it wasn't, kurt lied
>>124448437Pic related>>124448842is a very close second though.
>>124448437Darklands by JAMC, Daydream Nation, Facelift, You're Living All Over Me, and this >>124454320 (Screaming Trees hella underrated)
No one has said The Smiths yet?
>>124448617some weird decisions like the horns on some songs
>>124448437Murmur mogs
>>124454493It was actually Husker Du.Weird how Cobain never mentioned them anywhere, rightAnd yet he copied the idea for making fast-paced rock with harmonic melodies from them
>>124451793The Fall*
>>124448455the first alternative rock band to be bigger than the "mainstream"
>>124454493Nirvana sounds nothing like the Pixies
>>124454899Nirvana sounds way closer to the Wipers than it does to Husker Du.
The Pixies-DoolittleLove and Rockets-Self TitledNina Hagen-NunsexmonkrockThe Sugarcubes-AnythingDanielle Dax-AnythingDinosaur Jr.-BugThe Jesus and Mary Chain-Psycho CandyThere's probably some more stuff I'm not remembering right now.
>>124454557That's actually PUNK.
Nirvana sounds more like Dino Jr and Wipers than Pixies
Daydream Nation - Sonic Youth80s alt guitar has a jangly, chorus quality to it
>>124457949>Dino Jrdon't compare Nirvana to that boring shit
>>124448437There weren't any good ones before Nevermind.
>>124462231bait
>>124448437this was the inspiration for a lot of nirvana
>>124462231trvke>>124462235cope
>>124448437Either this, Bewitched, or Puptent
personally, my big ones were REM Green (then retroactively their prior catalog), Nothing's Shocking, and Green Mind, in that order. Gish, too, but I didn't hear it until later, I don't believe.
