>build new pc
>pick 2 Kingston nvmes, one 1tb, the other 2tb
>surely this will be enough
>1 single orchestral library is already a tb
elmao

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https://vocaroo.com/127Diu0EpLka

i feel like its an interesting track of sorts with pleasant sounds
wondering is it missing something or something not working

>>124451591
what library?

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I'm not into production yet but I have acquired a DJM-800 and some CDJ 850s so I can mess around with playing music before I start buying synths and beat machines.
The dream and passion has been reignited.

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A beat a day 20
Weed lmao edition
https://voca.ro/19FQOQERE49O

>>124451721
the bass is fucked

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a slvtty round 2

https://vocaroo.com/1dINQORTGOhD

i have to go *outside* tomorrow... and the next day.... maybe even the next one....
great distress...

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https://vocaroo.com/1miiow0g3FeZ
https://voca.ro/1lqO6n22Oxzl
https://vocaroo.com/1fJcetbs194e

some tunes

first ever beat i made
https://voca.ro/1wThHow0yiBF

>>124451721
>https://vocaroo.com/127Diu0EpLka
Cool. Bass is fucking fucked tho.

>>124455934
Anime videogeme type tunes. What the fuck are those measures tho?????

>>124456642
>https://voca.ro/1wThHow0yiBF
Goes hard brudda

>>124456642
Nice.
>>124455934
Reminds me of Destiny Potato and or just David.

>>124455352
i swear i hit delete what the fuck
...don't even plan to continue but the sound just bothered the fuck out of me sorry
sleep soon...ish...,,

https://vocaroo.com/1W98BoTcjkmM

>>124455934
>https://vocaroo.com/1fJcetbs194e
this is cool. sounds clean and the drums are pretty wild (I thought in a good way at least).

>>124456757
>>124452798
https://vocaroo.com/1oNqLMtUvFmG
i tried to fix bass, is it still fucked?
hopefully you're talking about the actual sound of the bass, not about how its in 3/4. that's like the whole gimmick of the track that the bass is in 3/4

>>124456949
your highs are always so harsh it gives me ear fatigue, i do really enjoy your music tho

>>124451591
Now you must compose orchestral music until you die

Is vocaroo down? I cant upload anything no matter the browser

>>124452070
in my case eastwest hollywood orchestra opus (diamond edition, so the full thing)

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how's my breakbeat going, /prod/?
https://vocaroo.com/14kipQqm5wyn

>>124460073
Dunno about how, but I know where it's going, it's going in the bin (i downloaded the file so I could actually put it into the recycle bin and delete it).

>>124460384
why?
is it because of the reverse clap?

>>124460384
Hey, what's this weird fucking breakbeat that just got recycled into my bin?

Didn't even know that's how that shit worked until now.

>>124459450
so you have an entire orchestra for 1tb, now how many more orchestras do you need?

https://vocaroo.com/1qHPwIVJswuO

4 bars is my limit bros

>>124462566
>https://vocaroo.com/1qHPwIVJswuO
Bass is going too low. If you want that rumbly bass, it's better to take that rumbly, low bass, high pass around 150 hz, then have a sine wave bass, playing the same notes, just a bit higher. As a general rule, it's good to not have bass going lower than 30 hz, most peoples sound systems cant put out frequencies much below 30 hz, except the odd bass head with 2000 watt 18" subs.

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https://vocaroo.com/1oku7MJ30RZ2
Work in progress.
Been on a hard trance/techno roll the last week. Did two remixes and some rework of earlier work into this hard trance esque style with rumble kicks and stuff. Put all 4 of them into a minimix because they're all 150 bpm.
Lazy I know, but I'm not going to release it anywhere.

songs remixed if anyone wants to hear the originals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRg2gqmJJrI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BbCT_dBqzo

https://voca.ro/1cMxIEdrMmET

Okay, be honest and brutal? Is this a catchy pop song?

>>124464614
It's okay, sounds like pop song by numbers with the exception of the odd use of chords. It's harmonically sound, just not something you usually hear in a pop song.
The vocals doesnt quite fit the chords. Is the vocals AI generated or something, something sounds off about it.

>>124451369
Does anybody know of any good forums for serious aspiring musicians who are looking to improve exponentially and network? I see aspiring writer's have scrawl: the writers asylum and I was wondering if anybody heard of any musical equivalent.

>>124464751
>Does anybody know of any good forums for serious aspiring musicians who are looking to improve exponentially and network?
Nope. The music industry is exactly that, an industry that feeds off dreamers. If you want serious feedback and networking, you have to pay for it. Nobody wants to listen to hours of your amateur jammering and high school grade lyricism for hours and get nothing for it.
Alternatively, work with other musicians in your area. Thats what everyone else had to do. There is no fast path to success, you just have to be one of two things or both, really good or really lucky.
>improve exponentially
You wont find that in any online forum, that is purely down to you. Again, if you want to speed up that process, nothing improves you more than working with other musicians.
>but..but everyone around here sucks
yea and so do you.

Polyend Tracker or Dirtywave m8?
I feel like the former still needs some ironing out, but it would be w better "daw" for me insofar as I am completely over the computer. I dom't even fancy myself as someone who can spin plates jamming everything out, but I have decided to get into music making again with 1-2 grooveboxes, 1-2 prosumer level arranger keyboards and a couple of the cheaper analogue desktop synths and just have fun playing things again.

The zoom recorder recently issued w midi sync looks cute, too, hope the noise floor ain't too bad.

>>124464691
It's funny, I love synths and yet I have no interest in or curiosity about an AI deeper than a good arpeggiator. I am opting to let it pass me by, knowing I'm too old and too average to ever matter to an audience lol

>>124464842
>Nope. The music industry is exactly that, an industry that feeds off dreamers. If you want serious feedback and networking, you have to pay for it.
>Nobody wants to listen to hours of your amateur jammering and high school grade lyricism for hours and get nothing for it.
>You wont find that in any online forum, that is purely down to you. Again, if you want to speed up that process, nothing improves you more than working with other musicians.
I don't completely believe this. The internet has created many unlikely communities like Brockhampton and Odd Future. I know having a mentor that's well-connected would obviously be the preferred path but I'm not so lucky to find one IRL as of yet.

>Alternatively, work with other musicians in your area. Thats what everyone else had to do. There is no fast path to success, you just have to be one of two things or both, really good or really lucky.
Is this what you did? Are you speaking from knowledge as a professional or a hobbyist or neither? Anyways I think I'm real good so I'm not worried about that.

>>but..but everyone around here sucks
Never said nor implied this...
>yea and so do you.
No, I don't. Don't insinuate.

>>124464955
>Is this what you did? Are you speaking from knowledge as a professional or a hobbyist or neither?
Who do you think you’re talking to?
Anons never learn lmaoo

>>124464955
>I know having a mentor that's well-connected would obviously be the preferred path but I'm not so lucky to find one IRL as of yet.
It's called nepotism

>Brockhampton and Odd Future
what all of those have in common is that they all lived in the same city, in brockhamptons case, in the same house. As I said work with other musicians, but I guess you think you're beyond learning from anyone who doesnt have 4 grammys on their wall because you're just that special.

>Is this what you did? Are you speaking from knowledge as a professional or a hobbyist or neither?
You strike me as a person who lives alot in an imaginary world.

>Anyways I think I'm real good so I'm not worried about that.
>No, I don't. Don't insinuate.
yeah you suck, anyone with actual talent wouldnt get this defensive.

>>124465005
>dare you enter my magical realm

All creative leaps are a folly
Thats what makes them great
Brian Eno made mention of people who were very attached to scene vs people who were mkre focused on the music itself, andnthe latter having to struggle

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https://vocaroo.com/12l17GnYAH0d

i need female vocals

>>124464950
I don't know if those two make good options if you reasoning is that you're "over the computer." I don't know.. I hate everything right now, but I have been watching for m8 to go back up for preorder; sucks having to check that website everyday because they always sell out quick.
Got my eye on the Tonverk speculation as well.

>>124465005
>Who do you think you’re talking to?
I don't know, that's why I ask.

>>124465027
>what all of those have in common is that they all lived in the same city, in brockhamptons case, in the same house. As I said work with other musicians, but I guess you think you're beyond learning from anyone who doesnt have 4 grammys on their wall because you're just that special.
Brockhampton started on the KanyeToThe forum with 40 people across the US. The group of serious musicians (15 members or so) eventually all moved to Texas then California to work part-time jobs and grind on their passion; I want to find passionate people in the same way Brockhampton did but not necessarily forming a collective. If I was a snob that only wanted advice from a grammy-winning artist then obviously I wouldn't be asking here of all places. These people exist and are accessible to anybody with money.

>You strike me as a person who lives alot in an imaginary world.
How so? I'm just genuinely asking to get more context on your answer.

>yeah you suck, anyone with actual talent wouldnt get this defensive.
There's nothing for me to defend from, I know I'm good but I want to be even better.

anons itt say they want to reach a professional level and yet they haven’t put in the work watching thousands of hours or youtube tutorials like me

>>124465136
based. my local library offers LinkedIn Learning courses (formerly Lynda.com) and that's what I used to learn most of the fundamentals and a few books.

>>124464955
>a mentor that's well-connected
What reason would someone like that have to mentor an up and coming artist?
Unless he's trying to fuck or he's personally invested in you (e.g. you're signed to his label or you're already relatives/friends or something), I don't think there's a high chance that he's going to do it out of the goodness of his heart.
But I don't know anything about this sort of relationship, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

If you don't care about the connection part, you can learn from what successful producers have posted online in their streams and whatnot. The Sol State YouTube channel has clips from famous producers showing their projects and whatnot.

>>124465130
Can you be sexist at me please?
I’m objectively the best musician here but I find it validating to be written off for silly things like that.

I haven’t read your posts in depth and obviously I’m taking the piss a bit but if you want a “connection” or some type of relationship that helps you grow, your best bet is to actively seek somebody out who’s either established or underground, suck their dick a bit etc, but *convince them* that youre good enough to be a potential future collaborator- they have to benefit from taking you under your wing somehow.
Otherwise, why would anybody bother..?

Honestly this sort of thing has crossed my mind: forming a small group of well matched equally capable/driven artists… running a weekly meeting where we workshop and genuinely talk about their wip, their trajectory and such in voice chats…

Meeting people for that kind of stuff is too difficult. The skill filter alone kills everybody

>>124465130
>I want to find passionate people in the same way
then go to your local scene, talk to some musicians, see if theres anyone who wants to collab, if anyone hosts workshops or something similar, I dont understand how many times I have to tell you this other than you dont want to, you just want a music career to magically land in your lap.

>These people exist and are accessible to anybody with money.
If money isnt an issue, buy a producer, rent studio time, or produce them yourself. make some songs, release them, see how you fare. Hell you might even be as good as you say you are and make it big.

>How so? I'm just genuinely asking to get more context on your answer.
There isnt, other than you thinking you can somehow outsmart the market.

Like I said, it just sounds to me like you just wants to be "discovered" without even putting your foot outside the door and I'm telling you that only happens if you're really good and people online starts noticing your shit or if you're lucky or if someone wants to fuck you.

>>124465238
What? Are you offended? You a woman?

>>124465264
You're simply answering a question I'm not asking. I just wanted to know if there is any semi-exclusive community like Scrawl then I asked for your background with music. I never asked about breaking into the industry or anything pertaining the industry. When I say "network" I just mean with other like-minded artists.

>>124465361
>You're simply answering a question I'm not asking
because they are simply stupid questions

>I just wanted to know if there is any semi-exclusive community like Scrawl
If there was one, do you think we would be hanging out here? And if there was exclusive communities like that, they dont like to make themselves known because they dont want every 19 year old with a pirated daw and a guitar swamping their boards with shit.
They do exist, but usually for super specific genres that isnt very mainstream or make alot of money.
Again, your questions are stupid.

>then I asked for your background with music.
I've made money making music, people have paid me to make music for them, people have paid me to use my music in their projects. Any further than that I wont bother to elaborate because you're just looking for a chink in the armor.

>When I say "network" I just mean with other like-minded artists.
I hear you say that and I keep saying, seek out other musicians in your area, but it sounds more to me now that you just want a bunch of cheerleaders and people to do all the heavy lifting for you.

>>124465361
The closest thing nowadays is probably just Discord.
The problem is that it's super fragmented across a trillion different servers, but there are some that are popular enough and have skilled enough producers in them.
Servers about nerdy technical genres that are hard to make will probably teach you the most stuff that isn't the basics that everyone knows, but none of those guys is ever going to be successful due to the inaccessible nature of those genres (from a listening standpoint).
But you can obviously still apply those skills to more mainstream genres.

I kinda skimmed the conversation. Truthfully just find some friends who like music and get into a basement and play together.

>>124466073
It's not necessarily easy to find irl friends that are:
>into music
>serious about it and have time for it
>good at it
>driven
>into the same stuff as you
>want to seriously work with you
The Internet makes it much easier but they're probably not going to be near you.

>>124467376
For real I don't understand how people say that shit, it's literally 1000x worse than, oh you're single? Just go to a bar!
Like what in the fuck are you even talking about?
Completely ignoring the >IRL in current year thing: run the odds on that- you're literally just pissing time away.

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>>124467416
>Completely ignoring the >IRL in current year thing: run the odds on that- you're literally just pissing time away.

As opposed to sitting on a imageboard hoping some record exec will just magically appear and give you a record deal?

Depending on what kind of music you make, 98% of it is music that usually needs to be performed live. Singing, playing, dj'ing, performing. You usually have to perform your music in front of an audience at some point. Meeting other musicians, people in the live music industry, people in the music industry, it's all part of that.

Or are you just going to sit around in your bedroom untill you get a hit and then "well, guess I have to perform live in front of an audience, something I have never done in my life but I am so talented and special that my performance will go down in history as one of the greatest of all time."

Is this the level of delusion about your own musical ability you people perform on?

>>124467487
You just assumed like a million things about some made up situation that nobody implied.

>>124467512
>didnt read the thread
>replies to a ongoing convo
>gets assmad when people assume shit because it was part of the conversation
it's like you people like getting your shit pushed in

>>124467538
the original anon said the exact same thing lol

it's like you're just here to feed your ego and talk down to the caricatures you're imagining everybody else itt to be

>>124465027
Hey man,

it actually sounds like you got incredibly defensive and immediately projected onto the person you replied to!

They were actually asking questions, and you didn't really have a good answer, chances are because you're not really speaking from your knowledge as a professional or hobbyist.

So, the "imaginary world" was yours.

Anyway, here's a song I finally finished writing.

Didn't add the last bit until years after I started writing it:

https://voca.ro/137sBFF3dus5

This might not be the proper thread though since I didn't produce it.

Just recorded it on my phone as something I'd already written.

My bad if so.

>>124467571
is this a new larp

>>124467585
I have no fucking clue
I think were on a trollercoaster

>>124467593
pog i haven't been able to focus for a few days so an extra shitty might help!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n6D8lB0A9w

>>124467609
oh it's the neighborhood schizo
figures

>>124467585
Sure why not!

>>124467621
:(

>>124467416
Noo you don't get it, just be yourself and good things are going to happen to you.
That's what every hip good-looking trust fund kid in LA who made it says!

>>124467651
let's go back to focussing on the DAW rn anon, getting all pissy at some random person isn't really helpful for anybody or a good use of time at all

>>124467593
Some people on /mu/,

basically ought to think it's dead.

If that means getting off the internet and going outside for a change.

Cause lots of them are miserable in a way that only makes others miserable when they post here.

Which actually prevents people from talking about music really well.

That's the gist.

>>124467682
No one is "getting all pissy", we're just joking around.

>>124467771
>we're just joking around
no we're not you stupid fucking faggot nigger kys you're ngmi with you shitty ass music

haha jk ;)

>>124467813
Hey, it sounds like everyone else was joking around.

But you weren't because you're angry at yourself and sad as hell!

Maybe smell some fresh air.

just discovered new drum tech. very exciting, but no one to share with :(

NEVER before seen, except the person on youtube with a 100 views who i stole it from (i made it better though).
Thank you Chris Johnson.

>>124468070
Share it with the world in the form of the songs you'll use it in.

>>124468479
No it’s so advanced it’ll break speakers

>>124468665
Then share it with your producer rivals to sabotage them

>>124463921
>https://vocaroo.com/1oku7MJ30RZ2
Can imagine myself in night club snorting to this in 3rd world country in early 2000s. Haha

>>124464614
>https://voca.ro/1cMxIEdrMmET
Its nice and I can see it getting carried real hard by some good vocals. Like, it can be a really good song. And im not into pop.

i lied it's just ear raped somebody else's loop with srsly3 sorry for lying i'm gonna go think about life in the bath now

https://vocaroo.com/1bljgRKjUr13

https://vocaroo.com/16UOrcHXtoca
did this a couple weeks ago on the drums, still trying to figure out how to do it again/stretch it out to a full minute

>>124469179
You really have to work on your timing dude
Just listen to how other bands break their stuff up by sections. Switch to halftime, focus on a different cymbal, play a shuffle or add a ghost note(s) to the snare etc etc ezpz

was having problems with vocals before, are they sounding better?

https://vocaroo.com/1oRz35E52For

>>124469552
Vocal lessons.

Pinch your nose when you try to sing.
See how it cuts off, especially the higher notes? Nasal. Very.
Ignoring everything else about the music itself. your vocal tone is the biggest thing that sticks out.
Sorry to be harsh but you have to overhaul pretty much everything that you’re doing.

>>124469581
>cuts
You’d figure this out but I meant listen to how your tone changes.
Proper resonance wouldnt do that.
Sorry it’s late

>>124469581
thanks for the feedback, whats different in my vocals compared to these? i'd probably consider my vocals a bit similar, and these guys are quite successful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJtR0Jbr-Fs

>>124469701
I somewhat hear why you’d compare them but the difference in why they actually sound pleasant and you don’t is pretty huge dude.

The thing with learning to sing is that it’s not like an instrument where people can just watch and imitate it physically- somebody who legitimately knows what they’re talking about and knows anatomy has to hold your hand and teach you how sounds are produced, lest you spend a year doing guess and check (listen experiment and correct) what should take a single session to learn.

(I don’t know that shit) but what made me go from completely out of tune, nasally and breathy to an almost tolerable singing voice is youtube (duh) and systematic experimenting and immediately listening back to recordings to play with my tone and practice intonation. It’s a fucking drag but in the time you’ve been posting I haven’t really heard you take any other direction to switch your songs up aside from that one time we don’t talk about.

>>124469552
You’re voice is too strained and forward. What the other anon said would help, make sure the tone is coming through your mouth and not the nose. Also try searching up videos on vowel placement, singing with a natural tone, and if you want to do notes outside of chest voice then also research how to shift your soft palate. Also learn proper breath technique. I’ve linked a good place to start for tone but getting vocal lessons from a professional even for a few months or doing a course at your community college would expedite your learning greatly.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/XUgDq_IuE5Q

What the other anon said about having to rework your track to your vocals is also true. Many times I’ve had to transpose my song up or down a few semitones to get a tone that matches the instrumental in terms of energy/brightness.

>>124469701
Their voice is solidly in their chest voice, yours is more like mixed/head which is probably why you’re straining. Plus their voice has a deliberate whisper tone that’s natural and relaxed with steady flow of breath while yours is strained and nasally, I can even hear the air creaking to pass your glottis.

>>124469905
This is also true. Even with a technically sound voice, you have to find your tone which can be found by recording your self, finding what you don’t like, making small tweaks through visual cues, rinse and repeat until satisfied.

>>124469098
>Can imagine myself in night club snorting to this in 3rd world country in early 2000s. Haha
Well I was going for 2000's hard trance, guilty pleasure of mine.

>>124467487
>Or are you just going to sit around in your bedroom untill you get a hit and then "well, guess I have to perform live in front of an audience, something I have never done in my life but I am so talented and special that my performance will go down in history as one of the greatest of all time."
Literally 100% me

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>>124471153
I would place a lot of money on this being true for 90% of 'bedroom producers' (including me). In my fantasy, I am so good that 'the industry' sweeps me up and gives me an intensive crash course for playing live and pretty much carries me so all I have to do is show up, that's how much they believe I will make them profit. So essentially not much changes in the way I have to do things and my approach to creating music cause all that annoying shit is 'taken care of' for me. I continue to be an out-of-touch hikki that spends 90% of the time in my house. The media and fans see me as a mysterious eccentric and gives me a pass on not being in loads of interviews or shows because I am handsome and my music speaks for itself. Surely everyone has thoughts like this, right?

>>124471798
Sorry to tell you bro but what youve described is pretty much narcissistic syndrome. If youre less than 22 years old its kind of pardonable cause youll probably grow out of it but if youre not then its bad. No one really cares that much if you succeed or make it pro. People look after themselves. In any case youll have to do all the heavy lifting yourself and if label helps you be sure theyll rip you off hard in one way or another. Actually reading this and the post above is sad cause you guys have no idea how delusional you are

>>124472154
he won't be a mega star but it's not impossible to make a living off music, even some literal who shitmusic hacks who don't make music videos or anything have made six figures according to government records. the boomer idea of being in a band performing at local bars and cafes might work in some cases but it's just as delusional for most people especially in certain genres.

>it's not impossible to make a living off music
lmao

>>124472261
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Mira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rYaQtoxsQs

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>>124472154
heh... nice projection, kid. I'll see you in a few years, or rather, you'll see me on your instagram feed, or you'll see me in some YT influencers 3 hour video essay on how and why I am so successful and what exactly it is about my music that makes it so unique (they will be wrong of course, but that's not important). Then another few years later, there will be breakdowns of my first release where it is described as 'rough around the edges in production, but musically, lyricially and compositionally genius'. Perhaps they will also compare it to my latest release (which I will be touring for at that point in time), which is described as good, but lacking the soul of my earlier works. Maybe you'll catch one of my rare interviews where I come across as extremely likeable and humble and is, of course, shared many times in my fan spaces across reddit, discord and other social media platforms. Here on /mu/, it will be divisive as always, and you probably won't go a single day without seeing a thread about me, bait or not.

>>124472225
I know its not impossible to make money off of music, but its hard. Still easier than painting or writing tho. Playing live is probably a must but not necessarily, for example if u make beats for rappers or various soundtracks. But that wasnt what i was adressing, i was adressing the delusion that all of a sudden youre gonna make it just sitting in your room making couple of songs a month, not really trying and suddenly people will worship you like a genius. You have to get really good first which takes countless hours of practice. Route of just making music for yourself only works if you make countless number of tracks because thats the one thing you enjoy doing in life and u spend all day every day doing that. Then itll prolly work but if you only enjoy doing music when you feel like it and that turns out to be like 10-20 hours of day and more than that starts to feel like work, then you probably wont make it. Im in the second category

>>124472154
Shutup chuddy

>>124472320
Youre in for a bitter comedown

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>>124451369
Does humanity finally get a DAW in a box or am I speaking too soon. And how many dick sucks it $2200 USD?

deep house track
any ideas on making the kick a bit smoother and sit better in the mix?
https://voca.ro/1nV3IQsGtubQ

>>124473650
pick a better kick, you cant fit a square peg into a round hole and no amount of processing will get that flabby kick to sit better

>>124473650
I'm not quite sure what you mean by smoother. You can try placing a 32Hz (or tune it to whatever makes sense) sub-bass tone underneath the kick to give it more depth and warmth so it feels grounded. If you want the kick to blend more in the background then tune it to the root of the key or you could try adding reverb then compressed the mixed signal so it breathes with the beat.

I am using Ableton and I would like to find something with which to make orchestral music. What would you suggest?

>>124475149
spend a few thousand on orchestral vsts or learn to play the instruments yourself

>>124475198
or hire cute women from the local orchestra to play the instruments for you

>>124475149
I am using ableton's own pack, i think its called orchestral sounds or something like that. But ive been told by some anon here that it sounds cheap. I think ill dowload orchestral tools at some point

>>124475373
the ableton packs sound like shit but i also never want to deal with "real" orchestral packs because they have millions of articulations i don't care about. if you actually knew what orchestra vsts were like, you'd change direction to something else lol. they're not for you to program but you send it off to someone who specializes in that and already bought $10k+ worth of plugins

>>124475491
Then what should i get to just get better sounding strings than those in ableton?

>>124475523
whatever you can get your hands on, if the ableton pack is working then use it. there might be some kontakt libs or the bbc spitfire can get you far enough but those vsts are more meant for classical composers and film scorers than music producers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXgqiNtCfUg