/classical/Ballet EditionThis thread is for the discussion of classical music in the western tradition. Early Music, Medieval, Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, Romantic and Modern all welcome. McCabe: Edward II, Act II: Scene 4c. Mortimer and Isabella's Triumphant Pas de deux. Adagiohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSAN12BA-0Y>How do I get into classical?This outdated link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFh
>>124811023not anymore than i'll get tired of the same old pieces for the rest of my life.
Is there any good list of lesser-known late 19th-century and early 20th century composers? I suppose the current rate at which I am discovering them is fine enough but it's too based on luck and happenstance.
If you were to have your "definitive" set of works and recordings, how many hours of music would that be? In the range of days, weeks or months?
>>124811705I need 3-5 recordings of the masterpieces and near-masterpieces minimum. One recording can be forty minutes to almost three hours, depending on the piece (string quartet/piano sonata to symphony to a set of cello suites or WTC, etc.). Then a couple recordings of 'just' great stuff, and then one or two recordings of merely good stuff. Yeah, I don't know how you could possibly calculate that. What a question!
>>124809401MozartBeethovenBachBrucknerSheppard
Well, /classical/?
>>124812042deleted shostakid from my library for obvious reasons
>>124812042it's like the classical music version of RYMteens being obsessed with merzbow and onkyo kei
>>124812083Except Shostakovich is good. Real good.
>>124812095evidently not LOL
>>124812113LMAO!
>>124812133truly, nothing is funnier than calling neurotic faux-mahlerian angstslop "good"
>>124812138More Mahlerian music is good news in my book, especially since Shostakovich composed in all forms.
This 'Kirk' guy has a review on just about every major Mozart piano concerto recording on Amazon, it's great, he's a major resource and help. I don't know why I'm posting about it here, just found it neat.
>>124812193bad music isn't good news, regardless of the pretense it's masquerading under
>>124811819I'm currently at 200+ albums of one hour each. I dont think I have scratched the bare minimum (for me). I would love the whole Bach, Telemann and Scarlatti.
>>124812042I am waaay past my teenage years and my kids (6 and 10 yo) only like Beethoven and Tchaikovsky. In short: I cant possibly know.
>>124812455wait til they hit puberty, you'll see them worshipping rachmaninoff and shostakovich like a certain indian teenager we all know and love.
>>124812435>I would love the whole Bach, Telemann and Scarlatti.But how many recordings of each piece? Are you happy with one definitive performance for any given work or do you like to have multiple, in order to experience the work in a multitude of ways?
>>124812530faggot pajeet nonsense at its finest
>>124812488I have 3 renditions of the Goldberg alone in the collection, and I think one more in the backlog.
now playingstart of Schumann: String Quartet No. 1 in A Minor, Op. 41 No. 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=889-0RX3CmI&list=OLAK5uy_kNgbL1cHH6QbcO0M93n9k2nHjHaRUtNPY&index=1>The Dover Quartet, in their first release on Azica Records, have recorded the complete string quartets of Robert Schumann. The phenomenal Dover Quartet catapulted to international stardom following a stunning sweep of the 2013 Banff Competition, at which they won every prize. Named the Cleveland Quartet Award-winner, and honored with the coveted Avery Fisher Career Grant, the Dover has become one of the most in-demand ensembles in the world. The Quartet's rise from up-and-coming young ensemble to occupying a spot at the top of their field has been "practically meteoric" (Strings). With it's burnished warmth, incisive rhythms, and natural phrasing, the Quartet's distinctive sound has helped confirm it's status as "the young American string quartet of the moment" (New Yorker). The Quartet serves as the quartet-in-residence for the Bienen School of Music at Northwestern University, Chamber Music Northwest, Artosphere, the Amelia Island Chamber Music Festival, and Peoples' Symphony in New York, and was recently named the first-ever quartet-in-residence for the Kennedy Center.Anyone tried the Dover Quartet's Beethoven string quartet cycle? The Melos Quartet's is turning out to be too romantic and cloying for my tastes, which is pretty hard to do lol, so might put it away for a while and try another.
Closing the day with viola da gamba.
Feels like another octatonic hexachord morning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd87TP9LoLU>Melody is harmony unfurled, harmony is furled melody-Alexandr Scriabin>>124812042I have that vid bookmarked, still haven't watched. I bet it's because Shostavich is a good melodist (the most important trait for any composer), and his rhythm is also somewhat catchy, even if the music is dissonant. Dissonant phrases usually sound better when they're rhythmically plain.>>124809453You never sleep, insomuttoid.>>124809598Who said I'm a native a*glo? kek. You are arguing with a schizo>>124809824 LMFAOOOOO SEETHING>obsessively replying to me for months,The irony holy shit kek. Does it get funnier from this point? You literally shat yourself last thread KEK.
>>124813866I've never heard of Szymanowski-how is he?
>>124813866good morning in mumbai kiddo, ready for another week of school?
>>124813884Scriabin-esque, but seems to have his very original style. Should be my thing, I haven't explored his works yet. What I love about Scriabin is that he knows how to use dissonance and atonality, unlike the likes of jew Schoenhack (the viennese school) who couldn't compose a memorable piece beyond the sextet. It's all incoherent slop, his form absolutely sucks and doesn't work with serialism. Imagine using retrograde for recapitulation when the theme consists of barely coherent slop - serial ""melody"" LOL. They give atonality a bad name. And influenced some of the worst garbage in music, along with being one. They are the only composers worth disrespecting for the damage they've done. I can already hear more talent here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SNwVTd-eGQMaybe I'll explore his works more after my Scriabin phase.>>124813897Time for psych ward, insomniac mutt.
>>124812488It's not unusual to collect recordings obsessively at first in a pursuit of finding that "ultimate" one. But at some point you will start to downsize your collection again, keeping only a few recordings of favorite works (2-3 seems reasonable), and a single recording of works that are not favorites that will suffice as part of substantial collection of classical music.
>>124791617>>124804740https://litter.catbox.moe/6jgl08.zip
For me, it's In - C by Terry Riley and The Well-Tuned Piano by La Monte Young.
>>124811014Was Wagner a good ballet composer? AFAIK he wrote ballet music on three separate occasions.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYnjgcuH_QQ (the ballet music for Rienzi goes for over an hour but no one's going to listen to that so I just posted the excerpt that came up)\https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sn7zvx0kMshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHz0HnAE4O0
>>124814054There's very little reason to downsize with digital copies, you can keep all those bad interpretations to remind yourself why they were bad or reappraise them.
>>124815023I settled on opus 320, so space is not an issue for me. And for the lossless guys: I dont care about archival, preservation, lossless, etc. If I were to lose all my music collection I would start downloading again. In my case, the curation is part of the hobby.
>>124808104>you kidding? every wannabe conductor and even some professional ones conducts like bernstein now; if not in interpretation, then in technique.So a new golden age is upon us. Amen :)
>>124814170Thank you very much
Edward II was such a fucking loser
In Meistersinger's harmonies, one hears the echoes of Bach's intricate counterpoint, as if the ghostly specter of the Baroque master had momentarily forsaken the organ in favor of the opera house.Richard Wagner once said of Johann Sebastian Bach’s music: “That made me what I am. My unending melody is predestined in it.” In Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg, Wagner demonstrated to post-Tristan sceptics his mastery of traditional musical forms. Sonorous chorales, an overture which Wagner described as 'applied Bach', a fugally-inspired toccata, an unforgettable quintet and counterpoint worthy of Bach all feature in this magnificent score celebrating the marriage of inspiration and tradition.The whole of Die Meistersinger— shaping itself before our very ears — is Wagner's answer to his critics, a song offered them to meet their specifications, filled with all the things they demanded and found wanting in his other work: diatonic structures, counterpoint, singable tunes, ensembles, folk dances worthy of Weber and chorales worthy of Bach.
>>124815925>Lets see anon's ballet
What to you is the ideal musical ensemble?>Solo piano>String quartet>Piano Trio/Quartet/Quintet>Orchestra
>>124816152Threesome.
>>124816152Quartet: bassist, lead guitar, singer, drummer
>>124816097seriously imagine being an actual fucking medieval king, both your father and your son are remembered centuries later as the two greatest warriors of the age, but you get cucked and deposed by your own wife and her lover, and for hundreds of years everyone thought you died from having a red hot poker shoved up your arse because everyone knew you were a fagsomehow I dont think having a ballet made about it quite tips the scales, do you?
>>124816152>Piano Trio/Quartet/Quintetobviously
Weird to imagine that people before recorded music probably would have mainly heard Beethoven's symphonies through piano transcriptions and other chamber ensembles before ever hearing it performed by an orchestra. Makes me wonder if easy access to orchestral recordings now has reduced the "wow" factor to hearing a real orchestra perform these pieces.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S6faEKKn_gImagine hearing the orchestral version when your best way to listen to the symphony was this
I like slow performances because it allows me to hear and understand what's actually going on in terms of melody, structure, development, and variation in the music.
>>124816227so in other words because you're dumb
>>124816247Doesn't mean he's dumb. Faster performances help me with understanding the structure better, personally. But I like the expressiveness of slower performances better. Different speeds work for different people, it's why getting worked up over tempo is silly.
>>124816267This
>>124816267I will find you and rape you.
>>124816152I'm falling into woodwinds lately. Not sure which is my favorite, but melody would be played on a woodwind whatever the rest of the setup is. Probably piano, and bass.
>>124816247>>124816267>>124816272https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA9crjt3_MU&list=OLAK5uy_lgUgWALn_tekub6qTuk8OnNxnDyzpkgW8&index=21
Post unusual, extreme interpretations, be they excellent or terrible.
>>124816324https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZiK27iQH1I&list=OLAK5uy_mX5MqcdSBZgbhEo14eQy5peqR1jCoa2BE&index=2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EypExZmmKxUReally, all Celibidache. Now, whether his approach is excellent or terrible depends on you -- some love it, some hate it, but there's no denying he had a cohesive, robust vision.
>>124816152String quartet
goddamn it, now I'm gonna do a day of Celibidache recordings, starting with his Sibelius 5th/Stravinsky Firebird Suite, then Franck and Prokofiev and maybe Schumann.start of Sibelius: Symphony No. 5 in E-Flat Major, Op. 82https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByHFpg4A_Mk&list=OLAK5uy_mdgU2T7zOkqhGtcCV85fsvkvWE5LyrEDw&index=2start of Stravinsky: The Firebird Suite (1919 Version)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAxfaN5W_Ck&list=OLAK5uy_mdgU2T7zOkqhGtcCV85fsvkvWE5LyrEDw&index=4
>In Sibelius 5th Symphony, Thor swings his hammer, and the listener can feel cosmic forces at work in this music, something on which Sibelius himself commented when writing in 1914: "God opens the door for a moment and his orchestra is playing the Fifth Symphony."Holy based
Lets start the day with Frescobaldi
>>124816173Just say you dont have a ballet on your name, anon.
>>124816407Do you like and listen to anything written after the fall of the Roman Empire?
>>124816400So he was praising his own work?
>>124816437Yes, as all of the Greats do -- greatness is self-aware. In seriousness, I do wonder if he was talking about Beethoven's 5th but assuming it wasn't taken out of context and the description wasn't lying, yes, he was exalting his own music.
>>124816424typical roman empire worshiper's understanding of history
>>124816424Do I listen to it? Yes. I listen to every Early Music album I can. Do I like it? Mostly yes, with some rare exceptions.
>>124816152Solo piano. With orchestral accompaniment if possible.
Rattle!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiKMc9M4cWw&list=OLAK5uy_laUOr6hIWvymrJ3CcipeLRI8XqSzqHufU&index=1>This is a great recording of Schubert's "Great" symphony by a great orchestra and conductor. Rattle clearly cherishes its "heavenly length." He even repeats the first movement exposition. Rattle's pacing is expansive; his transitions are poised and leisurely. Without changing the tempo or disrupting the flow and continuity of the music, he takes time to linger over melodic and harmonic details with loving attention, and makes Schubert's mercurial, sometimes abrupt mood changes rhythmically and emotionally natural. The first movement feels reined in yet bursts with vibrant life; the second is pensive and gracious, but the climax is quite terrifying. In contrast to the buoyant, joyful Scherzo, the Trio has a rapturous, irresistibly "wine-happy" lilt; the Finale is triumphantly exuberant. The build-ups have just the right tension and urgency, the climaxes and codas are radiant. The playing is brilliant and utterly committed, the sound full and rich yet transparent, with warm strings, round, vibrant woodwinds and mellow brass (those horns!). Blend and balance are perfect; supported by a firm, hefty bass, the subordinate inner lines cushion the melodies: every voice seems to have almost equal importance. The only flaw, as on so many recent recordings, is excessive dynamic contrast; keep a finger on the volume control. --Edith Eisler
>>124816509lol I was making a joke as to whether you listen to anything that isn't early music -- anything post-Bach. In hindsight I see how my wording was poor.
>>124816695I draw the line at the year of Napoleon's death. jk I have Mozart and Schubert, etc. But yes Early Music is the vast vast majority of my growing collection.
>>124816689Not loud enough.
Using "shuffle" on classical is weird. It is album or playlist.
Now listening to Mozart flute concertos
now playingstart of Mahler: Kindertotenliederhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfvEVwX_WTo&list=OLAK5uy_lVb-leu5A2CYoaMHLrkyzv93sXb8R7Ctk&index=2R. Strauss: Tod und Verklärung, Op. 24, TrV 158https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh2VuhPWOFU&list=OLAK5uy_lVb-leu5A2CYoaMHLrkyzv93sXb8R7Ctk&index=6Gorgeous performances.
>>124817537The Celibadache day in full swing, how is it going?
Now onto Bach
>>124816324Does a string orchestra performance of some of Beethoven's string quartets count?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWCRkLuMgMY&list=OLAK5uy_kDtyAmNthEgcbQH1gwcVsnqppfiram450&index=1And then of course you have Stokowski's blistering fast and energetic Brahms' 4th:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l_Go4pYc8A
>>124817573Glorious. His performances absolutely are not the kind of thing you can listen to day-in and day-out, but on rare occasions, which only amplifies the effect, they are excellent, many of them even transcendent. A mad genius.
>>124791617>>124804740>>124814170https://litter.catbox.moe/k17mfp.zip
one more, because this review is too funny>When it comes to Sergiu Celibidache and Wagner, it's time to slow down the metronome, tear down the theater, and break out the embalming fluid. To hear such inspired music rendered in a clinical, abstract, and utterly joyless fashion is enough to cry a thousand uncles, yet you can't dispute the obvious podium mastery behind the wrong-headedness. A puzzlement! --Jed DistlerDie Meistersinger von Nürnberg - Oper in 3 Akten: Vorspielhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHr20pCRcLg&list=OLAK5uy_n74lwDPHf3lVL9zQoYnXSD9NyjrhwMNB4&index=3Siegfried - Idyllhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XX5W7rBWkg&list=OLAK5uy_n74lwDPHf3lVL9zQoYnXSD9NyjrhwMNB4&index=5Götterdämmerung: Trauermarschhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6LhRDXMayo&list=OLAK5uy_n74lwDPHf3lVL9zQoYnXSD9NyjrhwMNB4&index=7Tannhäuser - Romantische Oper in 3 Augzugen: Ouverturehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80iSrgHqacg&list=OLAK5uy_n74lwDPHf3lVL9zQoYnXSD9NyjrhwMNB4&index=8These'll probably suck but it's worth checking out a couple minutes of each for the fun and novelty of it. Plus relevant to >>124816324
>>124817573>>124817615Also it should be noted that sometimes his approach does not work, and results in mind-numbing monstrosities.
>>124817586The organ is barely audible. Is it by design? Or is it my setup maybe (headphones)?
>>124817778Sampling one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5M6x1fkzck) just seems to be how it was recorded/mixed, yeah.
>>124816267don't reply to me waifufaggot
Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jsLa1xQksg
>>124816267Exactly.
>>124816267Spot on.
>>124817951You realize he's gonna reply to you more if you say that?
>>124817951Not very /classical/ related. Please stay on topicMozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5saZwaSCezw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnW1bRTok8o&ab_channel=thegreatAgnesBaltsa
>>124817537
Dittersdorfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M43fvWwZ3KI
>>124818772:Dlovely
>>124818802Was not in my radar. Any good?
>>124818823https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymc99Gd7YY8i guess
Back to the 14th century
>>124814414I always mean to listen to this but forget so thanks for reminding me, young man
I don wonder about Wagner's other stuff, not his Operas or his symphony or even a couple of intstrumental pieces like Siegfried Idyll, but all the other stuff. Maybe tis not remarkable
>>124819586There isn't all that much besides that, he wasn't very prolific, large scale operas took up a lot of his time. His piano works are fairly forgettable, but not as awful as Bruckner's.
>>124819586https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Y_18N6Y1E
>>124814023hope you had a great day at school, little ranjeet. don't forget to go to bed early so you can wake up for school tomorrow morning instead of sleeping in as always!
>>124815864bait is supposed to be believable>>124816152piano trios are an inherently flawed ensemble; the piano is far too overpowering compared to the 2 strings. that aside, the rest of these ensembles are all great; it's just a matter of what the composer is trying to achieve. >>124816267nah, you're dumb, AGP tranime avatarfaggot. >>124816689so fucking awful
>>124816400the worst composer in the world had no self-awareness? shocking
>>124820157What's he supposed to say, "you enter Hell to the sound of my music?"
>>124819822That one was a bit dull to be honest
>>124820193even that’s a little too high of praise if we’re being honest. he should have said “my music is a great ambien replacement”
Yuja general
there should be a word like "bardolatry" except in regards to Bach
Maria Jonas sings Hildegard von Bingen. On unrelated notes, Maria had an opening to an online Medieval Singing course, but I contacted her too late and the course enrollment window was already closed
>>124820438is that a summer festival type deal or just a random masterclass?
>>124820378
>>124820388Bacholtary?
>>124820453Part of the offering of the International Centre of Medieval Music (CIMMEDIEVAL). There were several courses planned for 2024/2025, hybrid modality, online, etc.
>>124820511very cool stuff, not my ballpark but nice to see something so niche have decent institutional support
>>124820480
>>124812042Skibidi Shostakovich
>>124812042These damn teenagers blaring their Shostakovich
Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzfKIQto9qE&list=PLpimBVAs7Ap9gQnn_TuUNEuET6RlBTkdF
>>124821485Neat
Now playing
>>124821485In my country, Backhaus is everything
Recommend me some good composers from THIS country pls
>>124821596Tveitt
How do I teach a girlchild of 9 years piano? My wife's single mother friend's child apparently insists on playing the piano, particularly Beethoven (maybe just Fur Elise?), and they can't afford the sole respectable teacher in their area let alone some grandma worship organist who I wouldn't trust. Also a good sign that the girl seeks a teacher rather than trying to learn by herself.I've been taught by teachers of pedigree e.g. 2 degrees from Schnabel, Rachmaninoff etc. but I've never formally taught piano. The piano means a lot to me and I think it would be very rewarding to teach a diligent student. If anyone wants to share relevant resources/books/tips/experiences I'd really appreciate it.
>>124821859>My wife's single mother friend's childWhy the unnecesary detail kek. Just say "a 9 year old kid".
>>124819586He could pretty much only find inspiration through programmatic subjects. Which his Siegfried Idyll and Marches were. Also he planned a few symphonies with names like 'Tristan's Sea Journey' before he died. It's why the following very unknown piece is so good, because it was originally an unused motif from Tristan that Wagner rearranged as its own piece of music for his wife:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO1rGXhQFE8
>>124821582Still listening to this. Busy day so lots of interruptions. >32 pieces in the album, almost all from De Visée>Suddenly, a piece from Lully in track 14>Ok, back to De Visée>Again a Lully in 21, Couperin in 22>Back to De Visée from 23 to 32Just make up your mind. If the album has De Visée on the title and his 29 pieces fill an album, why insert 3 random pieces midway?
>>124822798They are arrangements made by de Visée of other composer's works.
>>124820388imagine actuallt thinking both Shakespeare and Bach are overratedI mean that just has to be the dumbest motherfucker who ever lived
>>124823002Makes sense. Thanks for the insight, anon.
I have not found a single person who can explain why he enjoys the baroque, classical and romantic periods if he has listened to the previous ones thoroughly. That's because it's simply impossible to do so. Not even a single argument, Maybe some symphonies could be used as a background noise even though there are better alternative but nobody can enjoy these periods sincerely. And why would they, it's just a parody and complete misunderstand about of what art is about. They can never make an intelligent and emotionally stable person cry because of how beautiful they are. No surprise it was only parvenus and low brow nobility who enjoyed them at that time and it's the same thing to this day. It's merely a step above animal music like jazz.
>>124823764>complete misunderstand about of what art is about.I will bite: please enlighten me, wise anon
>This way of writing (basso continuo) existed all throughout the 17th century and well into the 18th, and in some contexts was used well beyond that. This notation can be a bit intimidating at first, as modern classical musicians are often considerably less comfortable with ‘filling in the gaps’ than our baroque predecessorsInteresting
Now Bach
>>124823909It's about peopel capturing the highest form of existence in their era and for more than thousands of years now it's the transcedental one of beauty.
>>124823764>instruments bad>4 part chorale le goodWe have this retarded shit every day, please fuck off
>>124820132Amazing, every word you just said was wrong.
>Nobody can explain it>who is the judge you ask?>ah thats me, so I default to me being the winner of all argumentsIts the same logic of kids when choosing his superpower against other kids. Very mature, not biased at allLets continue with the real conversation while kid anon "wins" against everyone else
>>124824088I never said that.
>>124816267>>124818436When some faggot post with an anime girl as his avatar I can't help feeling like I'm talking to that waifu, I would love to fuck this guy dressed as her. Is this the effect of Wagner on me?
>>124824187>likes artless instrumental music from that time insteadEven worse
>>124824214>artless instrumental musicI have no idea what you're talking about.
>>124823764I'm not convinced the world has heard the intended performance of renaissance music before, I believe its a huge scam and we have never heard it the way it was actually performed before, that all of the methodology and practices have been wrong I'm just not at all convinced by it lmao
>>124820096Thanks for cheering me up insomniac.
If minimalism is the modern art of classical music, what is serialism?
>>124825182Contemporary and modern have different meaning in classicuck music.
Why is no one recording the entire thing? All the excerpts sound good.
>>124817592Sounds like how Beethoven's 10th would have likely sounded.
Beethovenhttps://youtu.be/8Rn4UCGomxg
>>124826127I think Beethoven knew the difference between a quartet and a symphony.
>>124820132>so fucking awfulIt gets some points for distinctiveness, which isn't easy to do for Schubert's 9th.
>>124791617>>124804740>>124814170>>124817645https://litter.catbox.moe/xrpayw.zip
>>124811014I've been into the Mendelssohn violin concerto recently. I really like Suk and Heifetz so far. Any recs are appreciated.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcDhll2jaV8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N09kwplvIKM&t=43s
>>124826599also, if anyone has any Bach recommendations I'd like them. I've heard the Gould goldberg variations/inventions, the Leppard brandenburg concertos, and the Kempff well tempered clavier. I've heard teh violin concertos but I can't remember what recording.
First time listening to Czerny
>>124826436I just mean that the final sonata form movement of 14 sounds like what Beethoven's 10th might've sounded like
>>124817592But why use a new string orchestra arrangement when there is one for a full symphony orchestra made by someone born in the 1800s?https://s9.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/1/1f/IMSLP552917-PMLP3240-Beeth_arr_131.pdfI mean, seems more fun to record historical arrangements than make new ones
>>124827474>I mean, seems more fun to record historical arrangements than make new onesStep aside, gramps, the time is now.
now playing, posting again because it's so good and I know there are other Dvorak fans herestart of Dvorak: Suite in A Major, Op. 98, B. 190 "American"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUyYHHeAUzA&list=OLAK5uy_kZDSZTPF0jT9ScNnFt8quu4fXD5QxUxwg&index=2start of Dvorak: Symphony No. 9 in E Minor, Op. 95, B. 178 "From the New World"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZvydCEjgsQ&list=OLAK5uy_kZDSZTPF0jT9ScNnFt8quu4fXD5QxUxwg&index=6>The first album from Nathalie Stutzmann as conductor features Dvorák's well known Symphony No. 9" From The New World" and the lesser known American Suite. Nathalie Stutzmann studied conducting with legendary Finnish teacher Jorma Panula, and has benefited from the mentoring of Simon Rattle and the late Seiji Ozawa. She holds two major posts in the USA - Music Director at the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra, and Principal Guest Conductor of The Philadelphia Orchestra - and has guest engagements with the London Symphony Orchestra, Orchestre de Paris, Bayreuth Festival amongst others. Simon Rattle told the NY times: "Nathalie is the real thing. So much love, intensity and sheer technique."
>>124827702The time is now to retread old ground and do things already done before?
>>124827730Yes.But in seriousness, it's probably because the arrangement was made by Mitropoulos and he was Bernstein's predecessor and somewhat mentor (which he later backstabbed). Fun fact: it's Bernstein's favorite of his own recordings.
>>124827723The Suite in A Major, Op. 98, is so honeysweet and heartfelt, I love it. It makes for a fantastic minor orchestral piece opening, as it's immediately appealing due to its simplistic, straightforward structure and pretty yet undramatic sound.
Scriabin
confession: I like to mindlessly browse reddit for casual reading while listening to classical music.
>>124827844Kys
So as someone who knows nothing about music itself and music theory, can someone help me out by providing a simple explanation for why classical era music sounds the way it does in comparison to why romantic era music sounds the way it does? I can hear the difference, of course, but wouldn't be able to describe it well.
>>124827925wouldn't be able to describe or explain it well*So if anyone could for me, I'd greatly appreciate it.
>>124827925>>124827934Romantic period music is more chromatic and dissonant in it's harmony and melody, mainly inspired by late Beethoven. Classical period is a bit more afraid of dissonances.
>>124827962Thank you, I guess that is the simplest, most accessible explanation. It's just crazy the contrast, it's almost like romantic era music had access to a greater range of notes or something, lol.
>>124827997>it's almost like romantic era music had access to a greater range of notes or something, lol.That is literally the case.
Stunning how Barenboim's and Giulini's slow, teutonic renditions of Franck's Symphony in D minor sound so bad, and yet Celibidache, taking a similar approach, manages to pull it off. Not to say it's the reference recording, superior to and replacing the traditional interpretation espoused by Monteux and Bernstein and most other conductors, but as something different, as its own unique thing, existing on the periphery as a glorious idiosyncratic alternative as most Celibidache recordings are, it's magnificent.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkNjDbgMNmU&list=OLAK5uy_ksO3F4yE7G7PFq6JSyIkw5OF7OIJypWMw&index=1
>>124828050oh, lol, really? Well that's surprising. I know I said it sounds that way, however I was half-kidding, and thought it was solely a difference of frequency in notes and how they were used in relation to others, not literally a greater set of notes as well. That's really crazy then.
>To appreciate them fully, should one listen to Shostakovich's 24 Preludes and Fugues a few selections at a time or to the complete cycle in one session (perhaps with a short break)? Shostakovich himself seemed to be of two minds. At a meeting in Moscow of the Union of Composers, 1951, he said, "I wish to say that I do not regard this composition as a cycle. It does not need to be played from the first to the last prelude and fugue." Yet Tatyana Nikolayeva, who was closely associated with the composer and the composition, said in a recorded telephone interview with author Elizabeth Wilson, 1993, "I must emphasize that Shostakovich intended this work to be played in its entirety as a cycle. ... I have always insisted that Dmitri Dmitriyevich's wish to be respected."Well fug, that's contradictory. Also:>At the meeting of 1951, Shostakovich also indicated that his aim had been to write preludes and fugues that had "a substantially artistic content, and do not constitute a mere technical exercise."
>>124827844What do you listen
>>124828156Love it, saving that one.
>>124828052>superior to and replacing the traditional interpretation espoused by Monteux and BernsteinNothing about Bernstein's interpretation of the Franck Symphony can be remotely considered traditional.
>>124828131One comes from the guy himself, the other doesn't. It's not meant to be a cycle, case closed.
>>124828170While normally I'd agree with you, it was literally written for Tatiana Nikolayeva, a student of his whom he was very close and admired, and she performed its premiere.
>>124828161
now playingstart of Prokofiev: Violin Sonata No. 1 in F Minor, Op. 80https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbxbPp2NP8w&list=OLAK5uy_n_fnzcz58VzlzXWB63caU_HLPC35ZFkho&index=2start of Prokofiev: 5 Mélodies for Violin & Piano, Op. 35ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyAuOrpzd-0&list=OLAK5uy_n_fnzcz58VzlzXWB63caU_HLPC35ZFkho&index=7start of Prokofiev: Violin Sonata No. 2 in D Major, Op. 94ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X0KWNSZ9PA&list=OLAK5uy_n_fnzcz58VzlzXWB63caU_HLPC35ZFkho&index=10>Prokofiev's two sonatas represent opposite sides of his personality. The first is dark, austere, acerbic, often brutal, occasionally lyrical; the second, originally for flute and piano, is sunny, singing, exuberant, humorous. This recording brings him together with kindred spirits: two brilliant young soloists who are frequent chamber-music partners and have a special affinity for his music. Bell's extraordinarily beautiful, radiant tone is intense, expressive, warm--never lush or sweet, with a flexible, focused vibrato; its infinite variety of color and inflection lets him change mood, character, and expression on a single note, from dreamy, mysterious, exciting, ominous, or aggressive to tender, serene, inward, even ecstatic. In the first sonata, the long runs are crystal-clear as well as spooky; in the second, the rhythms and cross-rhythms seem etched with a fine point, and the soaring melodies shimmer and glow. The Five Melodies, originally for wordless voice and piano, are predominantly singing and lyrical, with a charming, humorous scherzo. Mustonen is a superb pianist and partner, but in the percussive sections of the first sonata the violin is sometimes outmatched. --Edith EislerNow that's a great review, I'm sold.
Now listening to Schubert
>>124828050Could you elaborate?
>>124828243>Prokofiev's two sonatas represent opposite sides of his personality
>>124828951lmfaotru tho
>>124828958>>124828243>The first is dark... often brutal... the second... is sunny, singing, exuberant, humorous.
>>124826474tyvm!
feel like trying some Beethoven string quartet recordings from the recent years, so found this one>The Calidore Quartet begin their new cycle of Beethoven's complete String Quartets with the Late Quartets, a 3-volume set of Opp. 127, 130, 131, 132, 133 & 135. Performances of the Calidore String Quartet are renowned for their "deep reserves of virtuosity and irrepressible dramatic instinct" (New York Times). Their unique "balance of intellect and expression" (Los Angeles Times) is complemented by the feeling that "four more individual musicians are unimaginable, yet these speak, breathe, think and feel as one" (Washington Post). After over a decade of performances and residencies in the world's most esteemed venues and festivals, the release of numerous critically acclaimed recordings and lauded with significant awards, the Calidore String Quartet is recognized as one of the world's foremost interpreters of a vast repertory; from the cycles of quartets by Beethoven and Mendelssohn to works of celebrated contemporary voices like Grygory Kurtag, Jörg Widmann and Caroline Shaw.Alright, why not.start of Beethoven: String Quartet No. 15 in A Minor, Op. 132https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY08vxqv2u0&list=OLAK5uy_mTqbHUIm3a2HBlv3A7-R5YWaSyISNybeU&index=19
>>124829671from the album booklet:>“Performing the Beethoven cycle is the musical equivalent ofscaling Mount Everest,” says violinist Ryan Meehan. “It is a grueling nine hours of music comprised of some of the most technically intricate and emotionally demanding music ever conceived, to which we have dedicated much of our studying and performing since the quartet’s inception.” The Calidore String Quartet has been continually drawn to Beethoven’s music for the enduring relevance of his humanistic perspective. >Meehan says, “He was an artist who aimed to compose not for one portion of society, but rather to unite us through our fundamental elements. His sixteen string quartets sonically weave a tapestry of human emotion; from vulnerability and hope as in the ‘Heiliger Dankgesang’ of op. 132, to terror and anger subsiding to joy like in op. 135’s ‘Der schwer gefasste Entschluss’. Our public performances affirmed to us that Beethoven’s Quartets appeal to the emotional experiences we share in common as human beings, which are far more substantial than what may divide us. These great works are also the result of Beethoven’s struggles to overcome the challenges of his own life.”>“This recording serves as a snapshot of our twelve years of working, growing, listening and collaborating with one another. Though this music speaks in a language that is hundreds of years old, its message remains immediate, relevant and comforting to listeners of today and of generations to come even, and especially in the most challenging of times.”Nice.
>>124824103amazing, every sexual partner you've had is male>>124824819it's the best i can do for a lil kiddo like you. don't forget to take your ritalin!>>124825182minimalism is post-modern. modernity in classical music technically starts all the way back in the romantic era. >>124826447it's actually really easy to fuck up schubert's 9th. most performances of it are horrid because they try to force the music to be something that it isn't. >>124826257yuck, way too slow>>124827425beethoven's 10th was in E flat major, so i highly doubt it would have sounded anything like op. 131, anymore than the first movement of op. 127 sounds like the 9th. >>124827844you're a tranime faggot so it's to be expected>>124828951as if we needed more proof that slaveslop is for teenage edgelords LOL
>>124826257Added, thanks.
Chopinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnJxxNAt07U
now playingstart of Brahms: Violin Sonata No. 1 in G Major, Op. 78https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uurhlGSMm1c&list=OLAK5uy_kkhC5lYa2qyyyJSA3qkDzveoBNoHHaJUs&index=1Can never have too many recordings of Brahms' sublime violin sonatas, and this one has some immensely effusive reviews. Sounds good to me so far, check it out.
so sadTrying to go through all of Maisky's recordings, and getting cucked by the label or whomever.
>>124830248streamingcattle deserve to be cucked by multibillion dollar record labels at every turn
Back to Early Music.>Sacred music from 12th-century Paris
Seems like today I have the general all for myself. Anyway, got interested in picrel because of you. Good stuff.
Scarlattihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR00jB4CrTQ
>>124830681I feel like how this cover looks
Années de Pelerinage Book 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bETO9OuI-Q
>>124831591it's just a soijak
>>124831745No, it isnt.
It's crazy to me that there's people out there who think Chopin is better than Liszt
>>124831758yeah it is, dude's jakkin hard
>>124831745You're just a soijak
Slow general is best general.
Tomorrow I will start my /classical/ Christmas marathon leading to December 25th.22 albums in the collection so far.
>>124831784uh, no. you are, chud.
Tarregahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i012ZfIt6NM
>>124831808Any feliz navidad?
>>124831826Tarrega is very, very good. My city has a comfy annual Guitar Festival.
>>124831828Not yet, jaja.
>>124831826The legs here look really strangely proportioned like they aren't properly related to the rest of the body
>>124831848https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aay8h4cbHcyeah
feels like a Manfred Symphony nighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9ovT_x4Mwg&list=OLAK5uy_kCS4o1kcI-26KRs8EEApdE67QkIrWUuyQ&index=2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQv_wIN7Dzc&list=OLAK5uy_kCS4o1kcI-26KRs8EEApdE67QkIrWUuyQ&index=2>When considering Tchaikovsky's symphonic output, the large-scaled Manfred Symphony, Op. 58 (1885), composed between the Fourth and Fifth Symphonies, is too often been overlooked. The latter two symphonies exist already in award-winning recordings from the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra under Music Director Andris Nelsons (as does the Sixth Symphony - the "Pathetique"). Manfred, after Lord Byron's dramatic poem of the same name now enriches this acclaimed Tchaikovsky symphony cycle, coupled here with the composer's much shorter Marche Slave, Op. 31.
>>124831808Damn, enjoy my man.>>124830681How was this? For some reason I've been feeling like listening to more early sacred music lately. No clue where to start outside of random Tallis and Byrd recordings.
>>124832038It seems in the last few years labels have finally begun to understand to put the ancillary orchestral piece first in the recording track order, like, y'know, how it would sound and you would experience at the actual performance.
>>124832038nightmarish record
>>124832108One of the reviews contained a weakness of mine, which was to state the recording is far better than another recent recording of the piece that I think is really good, so I gotta give it a try.>This is probably one of the best recordings of the Manfred Symphony released in a while and IMHO by far better than the also newer cd of Jurowski conducting the LPO. The Slave March is also amazing (although I would still prefer the Stokowski recording included in on of his Decca box sets).We shall see!
>>124832134gay and retarded, just like andris nelsons and everyone who’s ever been chief conductor of the CBSO. what a trashfire.
>>124815991Wagner sucks.
Poncehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pohcyc4-ZqA
>>124832219Cool
>>124832219First time I see more than one guitar album in /classica/. Same anon?>>124831826
>>124832219
Giulianihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzGFex9qPrA>>124832303yeah, gotta post before the schizoposting begins again
Now a mix with Heinichen & Hasse.
>>124832330Good playlist anon. For a moment I was confused about a "Sor Diabelli" until it hit me, kek.
>>124814414I listened to this last night and no joke it sounds like Psych Ward Circus Music
>This set of Beethoven violin sonatas is aces all around, deserving more credit than Edith Eisler's derisive "musings" above. I hear absolutely none of the "stridency" she claims, none of the "loud", none of the "heavy-handedness", "chaotic", "excessiveness", and so forth...>This is a set of violin sonatas with spunk, gusto, enthusiasm, richly recorded with Dumay's violin sounding warmly rosiny (i.e., realistic) and Pires's piano sounding appropriately bell-like. Again, nicely realistic. The two play as if they've lived with this music all their lives. The interaction is amazing - and dead accurate!>No, this may not be the ideal set of violin sonatas for those who prefer their Beethoven on the "soothing" and/or "passive" side (characterless is more like it). This is Beethoven playing with FEELING, with a sinewy presence and a winning approachability. The musical layers are peeled away which allows the myriad invention to shine brightly.It's funny that these two reviewers, one quoted in the first paragraph, are describing essentially the same thing, only one has connotations of a desirable, good performance and the other poor. I guess that's just how talking about music and art goes, it's just funny because they the writer here starts with "I hear absolutely none of..." but you do! You just think it's in good taste, and like it!
>>124832060>How was this?Pretty good. A reviewer says it is "Marvellously atmospheric" and I agree. I want to hear it in a 12th century monastery, or i. the rebuilt Notre Dame. Or just read The Name of the Rose again.
https://litter.catbox.moe/eqmauu.mp3 chaconne guitar art et son remaster 2019
>>124832446>I want to hear it in a 12th century monastery, or i. the rebuilt Notre Dame.The acoustics must have a pleasing Eco :D
>>124832403it’s RYMtranny music which is really the same thing
here’s an interesting question: is there any recording artist who’s recorded for all 3 satanic globohomo megaconglomerate record labels (smg, wmg and umg)?
>>124832513Name some of the subsidiary labels of them to make it easier to consider and check.
>>124832526SMG: rca, columbia, epic, eurodiscWMG: emi, erato, angelUMG: DG, decca, philips, westminster, hyperion, command classics, probably a billion other tiny record labels from the golden age of stereo that nobody remembers
>>124832038Great recording, highly recommended. I ask again though, regarding the fourth movement:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9cFCPO6mAs&list=OLAK5uy_kCS4o1kcI-26KRs8EEApdE67QkIrWUuyQ&index=5what the FUCK was his problem?
>>124832495Didn't ask you
>>124832570you asked everyone in /classical/ by posting here
>>124832513>>124832562I'd say you'd probably have much better luck asking on talkclassical but they're probably an agent of the satanic globohomo consortium
>>124832617nah, they’re just stupid boomers
Favorite duo/cycle for Beethoven's violin sonatas?
>>124832650i don’t have a favorite, but you’re missing haebler and szeryng
>>124832670Oh that's not my collection, that's just the top of the results you get when searching on YouTube Music. Don't worry, I've got and heard and adore that one!
>>124832562Arrauhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckf7sezb7kMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R99dZYXe60ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckS2kTxPYpk
>>124832709yeah, i was thinking richter too thanks to concerto recordings. i wonder if any conductors have recorded under all 3?
>>124832650Because I'm bored and have some time and am interested in everyone's thoughts, let's set up some comparisons of sets for Violin Sonata No. 6 in A Major, Op. 30:Kavakos/Pacehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvh7aKhh54c&list=OLAK5uy_l0wYczPEXtRltyk9N6VdpvKBiNLA8kUR8&index=23Kremer/Argerichhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlgnxAOtCME&list=OLAK5uy_mbQ5rXjqEyff1CJ0Un_Gsb0XurJeDX3Gw&index=18Perlman/Ashkenazyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iCOmGWccrw&list=OLAK5uy_mHn4lYCUy8GZwIhMgSbDDXMcYQcNDtykE&index=13Mutter/Orkishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzBG2sQchVI&list=OLAK5uy_mLAamC0FkLI-1x0Z_oPtZMBGwdqXqVHM4&index=18Menuhin/Kempffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEALNGZH3oQ&list=OLAK5uy_nipMZeLi7zaehzt-FpMq5-aHMA_BD7sUo&index=1Szeryng/Haeblerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQDYfJoOBvY&list=OLAK5uy_nUCsYTRlo_ivjjp_9kIfj9ZVxyZPBbf3c&index=1Grumiaux/Haskilhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px-sD8xlylA&list=OLAK5uy_nLRjk0Rp7-beasZ79nWnx_mZcd35SJwJU&index=17Dumay/Pireshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOy3FHIrOtM&list=OLAK5uy_kCpc0Wvns3nOPn7pHvtmQXQ_Bsi9UoWtg&index=27okay now I'm lazy but that should sufficesmiling_great_musicians.jpg
>>124831808I'm trying to think what I would answer if someone asked me for the most Christmas evoking or related symphony, string quartet, and solo piano work. Hmm, I'll have to get back to you by Christmas.
>>124832513>>124832562Celibidache
>>124832890which UMG label did he record for?
>>124832562>>124832779Karajan.
>>124832907
>>124832918which SMG label did he record for?
>>124832933good catch, wasn’t aware of this one.
>>124832934Rca, just one recording I think. Well, there are some live recordings too.
>>124832782Schneiderhan/Seemanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTKy2ZWUJ1w&list=OLAK5uy_lvbV1rZ-p8HL26PfYT3dnWG8HVN2b4pdM&index=17Arrau/Szigetihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro9uAx3YcLQ&list=OLAK5uy_lXwRgh3rzDt1HE3_LwK1SjVtwlVTu_s8I&index=17Temianka/Shurehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TinQvbwcVHI&list=OLAK5uy_kd7Rxm3mLFyov_km8dGvllh9gbhAQts94&index=17Kreisler/Rupphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fj6_03X_84&list=OLAK5uy_lpNABJamhdoAeHglpcdUBqxmblVYr1-hk&index=17Francescatti/Casadesushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaJhQCMYrlA&list=OLAK5uy_nj8YyrLQSr-lqAG9xDAJvAlpg-FiqRETw&index=5Heifetz/bayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiaIchPwUZM&list=OLAK5uy_mK7TOeKiQI0pfc3-yj1WvXSUX2U456vRw&index=4
>>124832962Thanks! I keep forgetting to finally go through that Schneiderhan/Seeman set. Saving your post, now I've got enough to last me for a lifetime.
>>124832952huh, that’s cool. what live recordings does he have on SMG?
>>124833036There's a Parsifal and a Fledermaus. Might be some others but those are the ones that come to mind.
best Bruckner 8? might ask again in the next thread as this one is almost dead.
>>124833056the only karajan parsifal i'm aware of is the DG recording, never knew he had a live recording on RCA too. i guess it's karajan and celibidache who have their name on all 3 members of the unholy trinity. i keep thinking that bernstein must have recorded enough to apply, but i don't think he ever did anything for WMG. >>124833062speaking of the devil, karajan and vienna
>>124832562>>124832513also Colin Davis. I just spent way too much time manually trying to find an EMI recording of his before just googling it and turns out he did some with them earlier in his career.
>>124833089colin davis recorded for SMG? all i can think of is his stuff for philips.
>>124833062My current favorite is Blomstedt/Gewandhaushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o1FNxW9HGU&list=OLAK5uy_lfO0D9nEkr5K3Y2guLjYSdcJG2JqDLlyE&index=29There are a handful of good ones but that's my current go-to. Also Boulez:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNA3EQmOo90&list=OLAK5uy_mb3oPotZ-3cYlT8ZKojT5H5mCo7FPzoeU&index=1
>>124833148the boulez one suuuuuucks, he's such a bad fit for bruckner
>>124833100He's got tons of stuff for Sony + RCA, yeah. Lots of cycles. Also are those in-house orchestra labels part of those conglomerates? As Colin Davis has lots of recordings for LSO.
>>124833172I actually don't love it either but I felt between Blomstedt, Karajan, and Boulez, you get a nice mixture of three distinct approaches for Bruckner's 8th, and in addition to its acclaim I felt it was worth recommending, as they asked for 'best' and not 'favorite.' Thought about recommending Tennstedt's, which is in a similar vein and one I actually love, but the Boulez has better recording quality and, again, critical acclaim.
>>124833062Also I'd be remiss if I didn't suggest Jochum's too but I don't really listen to his anymore. Might be time for a revisit... but it's probably the most common recommendation and essential listening next to Karajan's.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RFgFrEtNhw
>>124833182nah, inhouse orchestra labels aren’t under any conglomerate, for better or worse. i don’t know how i totally skipped out on davis’ RCA legacy, it must be a huge nothingburger if no one ever mentions it. >>124833207it’s acclaimed by retard critics, boulez is just the wrong guy for bruckner and there’s nothing valid about his analytical, unforgiving approach.
>>124833274I agree, shallow and pedantic
>>124833290You might be in the wrong thread, anon. We don't make fun of people using their brains here.
>>124833290boulez could be very pedantic at times, yes
now playingstart of Mendelssohn: Piano Trio No. 1 in D Minor, Op. 49https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSgwMIuJ2EA&list=OLAK5uy_nRVQuRsxKG1TLs9rvBaIW_SlYnLd0CK7Y&index=1start of Mendelssohn: Piano Trio No. 2 in C Minor Op. 66https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZe6usWIGAI&list=OLAK5uy_nRVQuRsxKG1TLs9rvBaIW_SlYnLd0CK7Y&index=6start of Mendelssohn: Songs without Words (excerpts)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_m-_XTOzrg&list=OLAK5uy_nRVQuRsxKG1TLs9rvBaIW_SlYnLd0CK7Y&index=9I've generally avoided recordings by this trio because I always felt they were a meme, industry plants, marketing darlings, whatever you wanna call it, but that was probably too harsh and quite silly, so here we go.
>>124833362nah, you were right to stay away, they totally are meme celebrity performers.
>>124833362It's basically the more modern attempt at the legendary Heifetz / Feuermann / Rubinstein (and Primrose, if there was a viola) trioExcept not very good.
>>124833402>>124833526For me, it's Oistrakh / Knushevitsky / Oborin. At least that's what I started on for almost all standard repertoire piano trios. And yeah, it's a letdown.
Now BocheriniI try to think of myself as the second dude from the left in pic, but in reality I am in the path of becoming the fella on the right
>>124833598kekReminds me of Schiele.
>>124833598Be sure to give his C major Piano Quintet a shot (Op. 57/6)It has the singularly most delicious sounding variation movement in the entire quintet repertoire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjgQBR8oxQg&list=OLAK5uy_mbJGdcSHlgK4xlpXGD9lMX0HHyX3JMAfo&index=13
>>124833172Makes sense because Boulez didn't like Bruckner very much
>>124833641Yes, actually it was Barenboim who convinced him (grudgingly) to start performing it, and he only ever performed the 8th and 9th a few times. I think he liked a few bars and that's about it.
>>124833641Neither did Bernstein yet his 9th is fire
>>124833624Thanks anon, will add it.
>>124833641>>124833662>I remember Boulez coming to a concert of Bruckner’s Eighth which I conducted in Paris, and he said oh, this music is so simplistic. And I said, but the slow movement should provide interest for you with rhythms which go two against three. Oh, he said, that was done much earlier and much better by Wagner in the second act of Tristan. And with that sentence, he finished off Bruckner.
>>124833616Yep. Add glasses (and 20 years).
>>124833737that's gold
>>124833665Too plodding for me personally
>>124833665not really, no
>>124833840But it's true, he really didn't care for Bruckner:^)
Maybe the last one for today.
Turning 30 in a week. Which composers and such do people in their 30s listen to?
>>124833881that part is true. the only thing about his bruckner 9 that's "fire" is it being a garbage fire of a performance.
>>124834104You'll come around once you're older.
>>124833983Mmm... unsure about this one. I will need another rendition to compare.
>>124834314There's some on this recordinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alaxvaN7qfM&list=OLAK5uy_lYcjatHBOJ9raY_ysy_miCCz9jWtweHlI&index=27
>>124834200i’ll come around when i’m deaf and demented, sure
>>124830189There's no better first minute of a violin sonata in all of music,
let's get /fa/, now playingstart of recording playlisthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8U03Yqja-M&list=OLAK5uy_lG-uZkU6vnlF9qFKIPYCeAt55j0Qg7MYM&index=1also added some recordings Pascal Roge has of Poulenc's piano music. Such a terrific pianist, all of it should be a great listen, he hasn't disappointed yet with Debussy, Ravel, and Faure.
>>124834341Ty mate
>>124834684Who is /fa/, the composer or the performer?
>>124834549Strong opinion
>>124834696the composerbasically I'm making a joke that Satie is the kind of composer fashionable, cool, angelheaded hipsters would listen to.
>>124833997Guess everyone has his own journey. Start with the classics, kek... Mozart, Beethoven, Bach... then work your way
>>124834684Video unavailable. Sad.
>>124833526Even Perlman? I used to hear his name a lot in the classical radio stations. That was some time ago.
>>124834728Fug, sorry. Damn Universal Music Group, or whoever is the cause of it.
>>124834753At first I thought it was region locked, but that shows a different warning iirc.
>>124834750NTA but I think Perlman is great and, while not in my own personal pantheon, has certainly earned his status. It's Yo-Yo Ma-Ma and Emmanuel Ax Body Spray I've almost never had a good experience with, whether separately or, and especially, when together.
>>124834750Perlman isn't a bad soloist but there's no chemistry between those three as chamber musicians.
>>124834764Nah I think that's what it is. If it was because it's limited to premium YouTube Music members it would say so, like one link I posted the other day where I saw it for the first time. So since it's not that, it has to be the region. In any case I tried to look for another upload on YouTube of the recording and couldn't find one, my b.
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>>124834778Thanks mate, you got me interested, will find my way
>>124834787Hope you enjoy if you come across it. First time listening to the recording for me and I'm really liking it. Like I said, Pascal Roge never disappoints (check out his recordings for the other French composers and you'll be more than happy), and I've been meaning to listen to more Satie for a while, which I'm glad I am tonight.
>>124834804Will check out his Fauré. I got the piano works and liked them.
>>124834709hipsters don’t browse /fa/ so i don’t see your point
>>124834939They used to when I browsed there in... 2010? 2011?
>>124834949you mean back when rage comics were the peak of humor?
Thanks everybody for the first comfy general.
>>124835005No... oh I forgot, you were two years old at the time.
>>124835030math clearly isn’t your strong suit, unless you’re trying to imply i’m underage.
>>124835038That's the joke, yes.
>>124835049a very stupid one considering it’s well established that i’m pursuing higher education. unless your intention was to compliment me as some sort of precocious savant.
>>124835054Split-second decision. I was gonna type six initially and in the final moment changed to two because figured the added acerbity would make it more funny. Apparently not.
>>124835064more like a swing and a miss
>>124835072Well, they say hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do in all of sports.
>>124830026Yes now go back to psych ward, it's about time.
>>124811014>outdated linkever cared to make an updated one you lazy piece of shit nigger fuck?
