>Production Resources:https://dmpdoc.neocities.org/https://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6qhttps://pastebin.com/p2QUqMzj>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributorshttp://mu-sic-production.wikia.comUse Vocaroo to post WIPs.https://vocaroo.com/No self-promotion allowed (eg. sharing your soundcloud/youtube links).Sister thread: >>>/g/dmpPrevious: >>127626535
I want to play a game. Before you are the infamous quartet: a, b, c, and d Soundgoodizer presets.Only one may survive.
>>127679999You know things are bad when you're called stinky by a jeet.
>>127680463B all day boi
https://vocaroo.com/17xoG5V6Ycar
>>127680463d, 50% mix
>>127679999Seriously question: why would I need a compressor if I could just turn the volume down?
Fucking KEK look at this shithttps://youtu.be/Fb2Qx78gLXYhttps://youtu.be/Az97k9o6j0ohttps://youtu.be/-qCpxdLW-dkhttps://youtu.be/LJPp7PGIRDYfacebook/daniela.priore.2024It's a completely AI-generated person (her face looks like a FaceApp gender-swap of a 57 year old obese man named Pasquale), putting out the sloppest AI-generated music, with people in the comments (the few actual humans) commenting on how beautiful (???) and talented she is.No doubt almost everyone older than 50 I know wouldn't be able to tell (outside of maybe the non-musical text-to-speech).Obviously this is terrible in every way, but assuming the technology will get good enough (IMO it will), and successful human Internet-only acts become more and more commonplace, I'm sure we'll eventually see famous artists with a curated image/aesthetic/output/etc that are entirely AI-generated, and most people won't care because they like the music and whatnot (sort of a Hatsune Miku situation, but actually pretending to be real).Labels have all the incentives to try this, and they already did (FN Meka and Timbaland's thing, on top of all the automated mass-generating bots we already have), to no success, but it's only a matter of time before one of them puts out something good, perhaps with heavy human input, and it starts building a decent niche audience. After that it's all downhill for them.Is there anything that human musicians can do to prepare for the coming flood of AI-generated (and increasingly appealing) competition?Or better yet, how can we use it to our advantage?
>>127682668to subtly even out a subpar performance when tracking.
>>127682679>Or better yet, how can we use it to our advantage?if you start out at "begrudging acceptance" you're contributing to the problem with lack of resistance.the actual un-fun un-musical answer is to get involved with groups advocating for legislation to protect us from AI.every chump that's chuckling to themselves and rubbing their hands together with little dollar signs in their eyes is not asking themselves "who am i competing with and for whose attention?"(they're going to be playing the house)
>>127682852>legislationAmerican detected.
>>127682895i'm sorry for forgetting that we're the only country with law and order mb.clearly we are a shining example of that
>>127682939I'm talking about your solution to a worldwide problem being rallying for your government to do something.Only Americans think like this, which is how I was able to guess.Even assuming you get the US and every western country to give you everything you ask for, every other place (including China and Russia) being just as invested in it to the point where it's basically an arms race, means that you're just moving the problem elsewhere (which means that all the downsides are still there, either from nationals of those countries, or from Americans/Europeans moving their operations there) except now you can't even take advantage of the pros.For this very obvious reason, no government would take itself out of the competition with legislation like that, just to protect its artists.Whether we like it or not, it's here to stay, and we can either try to adapt, or be outcompeted by those who didn't have self-imposed hurdles to keep them back.
>>127682668If you use compression just to turn things down, then you're using compression for all the wrong reasons.In a nutshell a compressor makes the loud parts quieter in comparison to the quiet parts of any given sound source, making it sound more "even", hence the name, compression. It's usefull if you're dealing with a sound that has alot of dynamic range or you need to control some transients in a sound that stick out too much. An more aesthetic choice is trying to make something that sounds a bit lifeless, sound more lively by using a compressor. For example, a drumloop that just doesnt have the right amount of punch can get by using a compressor.If the only result of slapping a compressor on a sound is that it gets quieter because the threshold is way down, then you probably dont need a compressor on it in the first place and you should probably revaluate the source from which you learnt that you need a compressor on everything or whatever your reasoning for doing so is.
>>127682679AI, like anything in the last 50 years, will reach a limit where the novelty suddenly turns into saturation. There's a certain "flatness" to AI music, cant quite put my finger on it but I have never heard a piece of AI music that blew me away in any capacity. It all sounded "good" for AI or it sounded completely mediocre. I mean, AI in essence is the sum of mediocrity. Then theres the lack of the human aspect. Yes, terminally online autists will gobble this shit up because the human connection aspect is one they do not care about.tl:dr, people will get bored with AI.
>>127683167you are assuming an awful lot of reasoning on my part.> just to protect its artists*their* (and companies) motivation will always be money.the "solution" isn't to just throw your arms up and not even try, it's creating a situation in which *it's more profitable* to not use AI- fines, sanctions, public shaming to the point that it results in boycotting. whatever the fuck.this exact same conversation could be about denuclearization and there's always going to be some fuckass in the corner chiming in "hey we can't do anything about it now! let's ALL get nukes!" as if this is some force of nature that can't be combated, or like we don't record *right now* that action can be taken to make things better.
https://vocaroo.com/16BeRV3bJHHU
R8 my chord progression Cmi7 Fmi7 F#ø Bsus4 B Bmi/D E9sus4 E9 A6 Ab7 C# C#+ C#6 C#7
>>127683301It's true that AI sucks, but keep in mind that we're still in the early days and AI-generated slop is already making hundreds of thousands of streams per song. My normie friend sent me a playlist of it, saying that he likes it and can't tell if it's AI or not (I posted about it on /dmp/ a few months ago).There's no way it's just going to stop improving now, and even if it never becomes as good as the human greats, it will certainly become good enough to affect the industry.>>127683338>creating a situation in which *it's more profitable* to not use AI- fines, sanctions, public shaming to the point that it results in boycotting. whatever the fuckAnd I'm saying that none of this will ever happen because the incentive for the government to keep it going is way higher than any incentive to block it.My entire point is that nothing of substance will (or could) be done on the legislation front to stop it.If the US blocks it, everyone will just use products from China, who's certainly not going to have any consideration for artists or IP lol.>denuclearizationPrecisely what I alluded to when I called it "basically an arms race".I don't know what world you live in, but in mine, countries still have nukes despite everything that's been done to get rid of them (which is certainly more than will ever be done against AI art).They shouldn't exist in an ideal world, but if your enemy has it, you can't be the one without it.Now add the fact that most people love AI, and it's mostly just a portion of artists that complain about it, I think it's clear which "side" our governments will favor.Your fighting spirit is noble, but also pointless and counterproductive.Anyway, I have to go now. Will reply tomorrow.
>>127684614> none of this will ever happennot an argument.>countries still have nukes despite everything that's been done to get rid of themdoes *every* country? do we have about a hundred examples of countries *not* having nukes because of intervention? would MORE countries have nukes if we just did nothing? yes. obviously. see below.>Will reply tomorrow.https://youtu.be/yts2F44RqFw?si=s7Xbxcq3MxxkNOya&t=230i've recently become privy to this line of thinking and know not to reply.your line of reasoning is fundamentally against any sort of "damage control" or "improving" anything or doing anything good ever.
Does any of this have potential? >cyberpunk city nightwalk musichttps://vocaroo.com/1oCTiO6wzEJL>ear rape musichttps://vocaroo.com/1fd3yy8toUGZ>ambient dungeon synth shithttps://vocaroo.com/1kCZ6twA8zcM
>>127682679I pray every day that YouTube will give us the ability to blacklist channels that use AI.
I'm gonna start an alt-rock/shoegaze project after retiring my metal project and will look for a singer somewhere, how's this idea? https://vocaroo.com/1kBIqCfnsZoi
break quickie BRBhttps://vocaroo.com/1g1b4ul14htJ
okay i'm back, and i have covid (this gave me energy, apparently)https://vocaroo.com/1dWaSdzxuCCd
>>127685865>>1276867988) Very nice.>>127685823Sounds good. Neat little modulation around 0:14. Singer could make or break it. Guud Luck in your search.
>>127684779not the anon but he's right. you're naive. the fact that djibouti doesn't have nukes isn't really relevant.What are you gonna do? Protest? Vote? lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Igthe only thing that matters in this country is money. there's literally no consequence for legislators to ignore your concerns, because they don't rely on you for their donations. or anyone like you. If you told me you were gonna become a ruthless capitalist, sell your soul for millions of dollars, and mount a massive lobbying campaign against AI art, then sure that could work. But> creating a situationis not something you have the power to do
>>127686921>Voteit’s like we didn’t literally just witness the repercussions in Iran.kicking over the chess board and screaming “naive” doesn’t make you right you’re just fucking stupid and ruining everything
>>127686997I'm not kicking over the chessboard, I'm saying you're not even at the table. Answer the question: what are you going to do? What *can* you do? What can you or anyone you care about do?
>>127687145not an argument and not an argument
>>127687217ahhh ur probably like what 18? 19?I wanna call you a retard but I realize it's because you remind me of myself. the future isn't hopeless but you have to be real about it. that's something you'll have to learn for yourself i guessgood luck anon may that fire in your soul burn forever
>>127687226My mother sits like a music producer.
>>127687367that "what do we do" was in bad faith, don't bullshit."you're just young" is just old people for "sit down, shutup, and stop rocking the boat. i don't want to deal with the challenge."
>>127687407>bad faithnot really? Trying to get you to see for yourself that the answer is "nothing"it's not that you're young, it's that you still haven't been frustrated enough by the system to get it. It's more than I can convey with words.I've seen that video you linked before. that idea of thinking in systems is good, the guy is indirectly referencing dialectical materialism which is a useful way to look at the world.What you're missing is that the economic system we have here in the US has systematically eroded almost all democratic mechanism available to us for change.Most actions that we think of as being ways to demand or create change, that may have worked in the past, don't work anymore. For a complex series of reasons, including citizens united giving corporations rights reserved for people, urban infrastructure making it difficult to foster community, mass media and social media incentivized to polarize and distract, a labor structure that deprives us of all of our energy and time... it's just so much. This covers a good subset https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEnv5I8Aq4IThe conclusion I've come to is you can only effect change if you have money. That's the only throughline in US public policy (which is what I was talking about here >>127686921 )Maybe I'm wrong. But the recent atrocities we've witnessed seem to indicate that I'm not.By all means, rock the boat. I just want you to see that what you think is rocking the boat, is not actually rocking the boat.
>>127687714i don't even disagree with what you're getting at (and i'm not going to pretend to know the full extent) but i don't see any of that as a reason to not try.whether "try" constitutes something that, by your account, is probably pointless, or something more radical, i see both as preferable to folding and contributing to the path we are headed on now, no matter how small ones own individual impact may be.
>>127679999What does prod think of the ep I've been working on for the last 2 years? It's about mania and the period after, plasticity. Finished mastering it and I am looking for feedback. Still need to end certain songs properly.
>>127689391https://vocaroo.com/187y2YW5bmOuOops lol
https://vocaroo.com/1eKhCsKZiIt1How do even you go about making something like this?like the glitch effects; let alone everything else
>>127684779>not an argumentOf course if you isolate this tiny snippet of my post, you remove the context that makes it an argument, turning it into a statement lol.The rest of the post where I explain why IS the argument.>does *every* country?Tge problem here is that the more nukes you have, the worse the problem becomes because nukes are physical objects (and we don't have Star Trek replicators), and every additional country having them is an additional chance of at least one of them making the (imo regrettable) choice of using them.With AI, however, we're dealing with software and Internet services. Both of which can inflict pretty much the entire magnitude of its consequences even with just one of them.As long as there's at least one music generator, the difference that 1 or 100 more is minimal.As long as there's at least one, say, from China or some tiny country that billionaires moved their companies to, the problem won't be solved.The only solution to AI doing its thing on the art industries, is every country outlawing it, which is extremely unlikely no matter how much we (a relatively small group of people) "fight" it.Furthermore, local models that can just be downloaded, are essentially impossible to stop (but their consequences would indeed be less world-changing if they were relegated to illegal usages).>>127684779>your line of reasoningYou're assuming that I have this defeatist view on everything. I don't.My only line of reasoning is to do what's most likely to lead to the most desirable (or least undesirable) outcome.In this case, fighting it will lead to a worse outcome than accepting it, so I accept it and make some lemonade.In other situations where something can be done, I don't have the same pessimistic attitude.>>127687367>picLmao
https://voca.ro/170EY0QYMKqEkick drums tongue my anus
https://voca.ro/1ovJZc3ktF3A
>>127689471I like it, I listened to the whole thing and wasn’t bothered by it. The usual mixing issue of too much sibilance and low mids. Reminded me a bit of Crystal Castles at the end there
who knows... who knows,,,https://vocaroo.com/1gaULFiNU1dd
do yall like any of the airwindows EQs and if so when do you opt for them over your stock EQ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t3RKvAvK50Boy I wish I'd seen this before I dropped 700 bucks on Ableton.
>>127693737MackEQ and ConsoleMD/LA directly followed by the corresponding buss to get retro kind of guitar/bass/drum tones. Stonefire is really useful randomly as a sort of non-EQ EQBezEq is interesting and walks the line of sound design tool vs general EQ early in a chainYou should try to capture the sound well enough going in or in the box that it doesn't need much EQing to begin with, either recording instruments through EQs/preamps or designing synth patches.If you're someone that regularly uses more than 4 parametric EQ bands and are constantly cutting and boosting random frequencies on every track then learn how to use less EQ in general. You really shouldn't need more than a low shelf/cut, low mid bell, high mid bell, and high shelf/cut for most things outside of sound design. More specifically, differentiate when you're using EQ as sound design or as EQ for the mix.
anyone here understand mastering? not like dick around until you get something good or load up le soundgoodizer, but like know how to dick around *with purpose* ?? like, I have vague notion of, use multiband compression, make LOUDER, clip transients, etc, but I feel like I don't really have a framework. any resources for this?
>>127689604Just use SUNO and lie or produce 100 tracks/attempts. Minimum.
>>127695931The purpose of mastering as it relates to modern music is simply making sure that the song sounds good in a way that it translates to all kinds of sound systems. In other words, making sure your song sounds as good as it can in your car as it does on your stereo or headphones at home. It's the last stage of polish before the song is released. Making it brighter, making it less harsh, making it bassier, less bassier, less boomy, more punchy and so on.The purpose of mastering isnt making things loud just for the sake of being loud. Untill the advent of digital recordings, mastering simply was making sure that when the song was printed on to vinyl (usually testpressing), there wouldnt be any heavy bassy parts or loud transients in the song that would make the needle jump out the groove. Hence some compression or limiting or EQ was used to ensure that wouldnt happen.In a nutshell, mastering is just making sure the song sounds as good as it possibly can.
>>127689604>How do even you go about making something like this?break it down. try to recreate it. the song was made one piece at a time. Try to figure out what those pieces are, but especially how each piece interacts with others and contributes to the whole.e.g. don't spend 3 hours trying to recreate the exact sounds he's using; try to figure out the essence of the sound, what it's doing, and why it works in context.
lazy hazy crazy azy dayssshttps://vocaroo.com/1aZPebEcfrCx
https://voca.ro/1j6QGUTXfL3dthoughts and prayers
>>127697858thots and players
>>127697524>https://vocaroo.com/1aZPebEcfrCxThat last bit is what it would sound like if you could just flush the DAW like a toilet to clear everything as it's playing. pretty cool.
/prod/ in a nutshell
>>127679999Alright anonymity, 1stly>thank you so much for the links, saves questions asked of DAWs 2ndly>what resources not covered in the links can anonymity recommend for Goth music? What kind of VSTs do anonymity recommend?>TLDR, want to make tracks for 2 different genres, Goth Metal ala Type O negative & 80s Heavy metal ala Nazareth/Blue Oyster cultWould /metal/ be a better place to ask about the latter?
>>127699062Now ANONSfuck phoneposting is ass now nobody's gonna answer.
>>127699062>>127699067fuck off, you stupid cunt
Please get along.
>>127699082NO! I have a legitimate question. Answer or ignore me. I came in good faith looking for advice.
https://vocaroo.com/1lUzBGGdWhJXhttps://vocaroo.com/1j7kmA5ZW7fYThese two links are the same track, but one is slowed down and mixed slightly different in postprod. Used free vsts and free effects.Sorry -don't have any questions. Just sharing.
https://voca.ro/1giQJCSfvy6cJust a melody and some chords at this point I’m going to develop it more tonight. Sounds pretty tho
>>127695931https://www.youtube.com/@Streaky_comHe’s good, actually a pro. Lots of mix sweetening ideas but a lot of ads
>>127695931I watched a pro guy mastering a track and he goes ‘ hm needs less 500k,’ then EQued it. I’m ok at music but there’s no way I could listen to a track and hear a frequency buildup anywhere and then which area it was. So they spend all day doing it and get the knack. It there’s a lot more to it. And probably some of it’s not necessary.
>>127700074Do it for long enough and you start getting a sense of what things should sound like, which will make problems jump out at you.At first it will only be big obvious ones, but as you get more experience it will be smaller and smaller ones, until maybe you reach that pro level that seems unfathomable right now.
>>127700074Like ear training for recognizing note intervals, there's "ear training" you can do for EQ.How do you think loud sound guys know what to change on the fly? It's just practice and if you can't hear something wrong with a song you haven't been doing it long enough.Mixing/mastering people are solving the same problems every day so it's more easily repeatable to them but you should know what frequencies tend to be problems if you finish songs enough or record live instruments enough. That's where "magic frequencies" come in which are partly junk but partly true of areas where you might cut/boost for "professional" sounds.
>>127700074>needs less 500kwas the mastering engineer a dog??
>>127698904annoying bocchi/kon poster doing the same slop for years in shambles>>127702463lmao my thoughts as well
>>127702485>nnoying bocchi/kon poster doing the same slop for years in shamblesI fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times- Steve Aoki
>>127702485u haven’t been around to see me genre hop u o e n o broi laughed anyway tho
>>127702541he wishes he could make a song as anthemic as woop woophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DO6Y9_5e7A
>>127702573All Bob Rifo (using the Hov Dominator Sylenth1 preset)
What do I do if I want to make electronic music but don't want to use samples for drums? I have lots of synths but am kinda lost when it comes to drums.
>>127702541i'm about to practice 10,000 kicks on your face, motherbitch
>>127702604excellent excuse to not make any music at all
>>127702611Do you have cute feet?
>>127702604either get over yourself and stop being a fag or learn to make them
>>127702613What do you mean?>>127702623Where do I learn to make them?
>>127702667timewasting troll, go away
>>127702667we don't take kindly to spoonfeedin' 'round these parts, kiddo
guys the new season of the ground breaking revolutionary fps game THE FINALS dropped todayidk if i’m gonna make any music for like a week now 8(
>>127702713Our ears are saved
>>127702724you should show your gratitude by downloading and playing
>>127702713A break every once in a while is good for creativity. You'll probably come back refreshed and anti-writer's-blocked.
>>127702667YouTube
>>127702914i was joking literally nothing will make me take a break
>>127702983I'm both proud and disappointed at the same time.
Anyone have an idea how to make the pad in this track? It sounds super aliased, bit reduced, sample reduced, whatever. But I've tried using Redux and Ableton's Erosion but they don't result in this sound with the settings I tried. Maybe it's just a layer, idk.https://youtu.be/vD1m4flw_KoSimilar pads on the whole album and it was produced by OPN apparently.
Do you have a place to get MIDI files for drum loops and phrases?I am struggling to program rhythms I'd like some starters/presets to get me started and customize.
>>127703728even more pronounced here from like 2:40https://youtu.be/JHLJMlTzTMQ
>>127703758>>127703728bounce before throwing it into sampler or a granulator. you just want that static tone.unironically i think airwindows bit glitter is much better in this instance than redux.https://vocaroo.com/1iGL2t3fPJz2
>>127702604Drum samples?You mean Drum loops? or the one shots?>You don't need to use drum samples(prerecorded drum loops) >Just program your own drums with the oneshots you like. >Look up basic drum patterns and experiment. e.g. kick on the 1 and 3, snare on two and fourIf you mean make your own drum sounds? Not even using oneshots. >You can do that also. You'll need Serum but you can do it. There tutorials for everything. Just look up how to make the drumsounds>Or buy Ezdrummer 3 idk
How does one gain clout as a music artist?
>>127704812>be sociable>be charismatic>have swag>be hot>be good
>>127704858>0/5FuckCan I buy any of this?
>>127704812say israel or something
>>127704876you can absolutely pay for a stylist and ghost writing.you cannot, however, pay for taste
Not sure if this is a great place to ask this, but are there any keyboards or synthesizers that aren't complete shit and could suit an absolute beginner to keys for under $150?
Is there a way to have a reverb just trigger on one note and then turn it off again but keep it ringing out? i guess I could put the reverb on a return track and then automate the send to 100% just for the duration of that one note. just turning the reverb on and off kills the reverb tail of course.
>>127705153when you say keyboards or synthesisers, what do you mean by keyboards? midi controllers? and what is shit to you? of you're looking for piano action then most synth keys are gonna be "shit" but if you're just looking for decent synth style key action then there are plenty to choose from. arturia keystep and akai mpk mini plus come to mind
>>127705196yes
>>127705273By shit I'm mostly talking about the hardware having a short lifespan or being faulty shortly after purchasing. I have no real standards or preferences, I'm just looking for something with keys to fuck around on and get a feel for. As far as I have seen, midi controllers require basically need to be used with something else to be functional, which I'd rather not start with. I guess I would want an actual instrument I can turn on and just start making sound from the unit itself. Thing is I'd like something with different sounds/effects.
>>127705341what do you mean by different sounds and effects? if you get a synth you simply program the sound you want. are you saying you want a workstation? either way, there's fuck all for that price. yamaha reface cs would be the entry point for a decent synth with actual keys.also midi is for beginners too, idk what misconceptions you have but there seem to be many.
>>127705376So with a synth, do I use a workstation to program the sounds, but I can then play the synth with whatever it has been programmed away from the computer/DAW as you would a piano?
>>127705423m8, a synth is a standalone instrument, so is a workstation.
>>127705466I don't really know the differences between the kinds of keyed instruments, sorry.
>>127705376You don't need a "workstation"Can second that a Yamaha reface cs would fit your needs.
Who made this experimental music track? I've been trying to find out for six years.https://vocaroo.com/1i7POC1TithM
relationship between compression parameters is weird.
https://vocaroo.com/11zSixekxzJLidk i'm dry today
https://voca.ro/13oIlm41vi1bthis is a test pls ignore
>>127706276Early/mid 00's japanese video game core. I like it.>>127706287Neat slow jam.Kind of reminds me ofhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaheXqXQiLoObviously different, but similar mood. Kind of.
>>127706287>deleted while I was listening to it for the second timeThank god I downloaded it! Super rare senpai track GEッTTO!!
mixing anything older than a year always give me so much second hand cringe jfc like what were you even doing how did you not fucking DIE from being so STUPID are you DEAF?
wtf I didn't know ferry had a radio show too
which kcathedral is the best? :thinking:
>>127702604You can make snares, kicks, hats and shakers from absolutely anything. Venus theory made a drum pack from a recording of him eating celery and carrots.
Tonverk has wingshttps://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/09/10/elektron-tonverk-officially-announced-but-no-octatrack-killer/Finally... I will make music.(._. ) {we all know how that goes...}
>>127708068no you HAVE to make music now
>>127708094I know, except it doesn't look like it has a nice slicing feature... I shall pray for a firmware update....and then JUST DO IT!
>>127708068>>127708115Damn, yeah, this is not the one.Time to go back into hibernation.
guys i'm going to mix all my idm and deconstructed tracks from last year.and then...>???>profit
Ok! https://vocaroo.com/15i3v4QaEjGg
/rip/ /dmp/
How do anons approach their song writing? I'm still in the kind of place as a newbie where I mostly make ideas and small loops or chord progressions and usually haven't got the time or experience to flesh them out into more complete ideas. Recently I've started dedicating a bit more time to it and still get stuck in the loop tweeking stage, but I'm actually finding ideas on how to progress it into something bigger from just messing around with a 10 second loop. Is this how anons usually work, or do you tend to get a whole idea down as quick as possible (even if it's just basic chords and placeholder sounds) then work on fleshing it out from there? Maybe it's different each time and dependant different factors?
>>127708427/r9k/s unofficial anthem.Was really smooth untill the distortion came in.
https://vocaroo.com/1dvGoNH894OMBeen trying to get that Daft Punk/Justice french house sound. Mostly just an idea right now, but any pointers welcome.
They're onto us sisters>>>/pol/515534062What's our next move?
>>127711741>charlie kirk
>>127711621nice bro, finish the track and let us know.
>>127711621Sounds more like kavinsky tbqhBecause the main synth is a near 1:1 copy of testarossa kek
>>127713077For reference:https://youtu.be/PuFBmKAR07U
>>127713077>Because the main synth is a near 1:1 copy of testarossa kekYou're thinking of the Sebastian Remix. Aerodynamic was the inspiration for the synth though. >Sounds more like kavinsky tbqhWell, there's worse things to be compared to.
>>127713144Yes, that's literally what I meant retard see >>127713087>theres worse things If your goal was to create a French house clone sure, if your goal was to made a French house inspired track you failed since you just blatantly copied
>>127713302what crawled up your ass
>>127713336You
>>127711621It sounds like you copied the instruments from popular french house tracks and stuck them together into one track. You accomplished your goal of sounding like Justice, but beyond that it sounds boring. How about you add some originality in it that would make the track stand on its own without it sounding like a Justice clone?
Actually, there's a problem with the >>127705196 approach which is that a 100% send to a return track results in a 50% wet at most. Is there another way to do it that results in a 100%?
>>127713913put the reverb on the track instead?
>>127713926Yes, but then how do I have the reverb tail on a single note only? If I automate the reverb to turn off after the note, it kills the tail too.
>>127713945copy an instance of the track, delete everything else but that one note and put reverb on it.The other track plays everything else except that one note with reverb on it.You can also bounce it down to audio to save on performance.
>>127713983if that's the only way to do it then it's kind of weird that you have to do dumb workarounds like this. why don't reverbs just have a "stop taking in new audio but continue playing the current reverbed audio until fully decayed button"? seems like it would be more useful than shit like predelay which every reverb has for some reason.
>>127713694>You accomplished your goal of sounding like JusticeWhich was kinda the point? I said I was trying to get that Justice/Daft Punk sound, never claimed it was some great, original piece, just that it was an idea. It's derivative as hell, that I was aware of, why do you think I posted an image of a guy wearing a cardboard Daft Punk helmet?
>>127713913>a 100% send to a return track results in a 50% wet at most. Is there another way to do it that results in a 100%?In Ableton at any rate you can bump up the level of the return track beyond unity gain, which would increase its level relative to the dry track, a Utility device would let you increase it even further, but you'd still hear the original source (dry) track to an extent too.To get 100% wet (thus, no dry signal at all being heard) you'd need to use some other method that involves sending the source (dry) signal to the reverb return track pre-fader, so that you can automate the fader to silence the dry track, that's usually how it's done with hardware mixers, either manually with older mixers or using mixer automation with newer ones.
>>127714022It's such a niche issue that I doubt anyone will bother with the effort of programming something like that.
is it normal to think that everthing you make sucks and you have zero skill, taste and originality?
>>127714734huh?
>>127714734if you're bad and not deluded about your own ability that's kind of the only conclusion for you to reach
>>127714368I actually think I might be able to do the thing I'm thinking about with racks inside abeoton as an insert, just switch signal paths after the reverb triggers and I think it'll continue to ring out. haven't had the opportunity to try yet. also have never used racks in Ableton before, so maybe this is my leveling up arc>>127714685is it really such a niche or unusual application that someone would want a reverb on a track only to pick up one note and then ring out while the rest keeps playing dry? it's a pretty cool effect. ive heard it in some stuff before too. also it's pretty common to automate a reverb or delay to on just for the last snippet of an audio track, so I feel like doing it in the middle of something playing isn't that far fetched.
>>127714933Just do what >>127713983 said and stop spazzing out because plugins doesnt do your production for you.
>>127714954>being able to automate a thing = plugin does the production for youso you don't automate? got bad news for you if sohey why don't you program your own max msp instruments too?
>>127714734https://vocaroo.com/1dD8fXeJ29VSyes
>>127714734for me it's that I am a god at composition but I can't produce in a way that does it any justice
the science is settled.
>>127715014Your whole idea is stupid in the first place unless you want your computer to burst into flames because the CPU load is too high. The reason being is that the only way it's feasible for a reverb plugin to only ring out one note while the rest is dry is to apply reverb to every single midi note induvidually, which for a chord means anywhere from 3 to 7 induvidual instances of reverb applied, now assuming there's some reverb tail overlapping other notes and chords, it means that at any given time, the reverb plugin has to apply reverb to as much as 40-60 unique instances simultaneously.If you just had done as the other anon said an hour ago, you would have been done with it long ago and moved onto something else in your production, but you're still here, complaining about something that everyone else would have been able to fix in 2 minutes.
>>127715071never read something this retarded before>don't microwave a metal container: Truewow thanks, very elucidating
fpbp
>>127714734>>127710477everything I make is terrible regardless of the method
>>127715115I was never talking about one midi note per chord, let alone sending every single note to a different reverb. I was simply talking about applying the reverb to only take in one second or so of playback and then let that tail ring out while not doing anything else to the signal.also, this is /prod/ I had a question about how to do something, and if there isn't a less convoluted way to do the thing since it seems like a straightforward application (to me), and there's nothing wrong with asking if somebody else knows a smarter way (which i figured out myself wirh the racks), idk m8 I'm just trying to learn and assumed I was missing a more practical solution
>>127715179> was simply talking about applying the reverb to only take in one second or so of playback and then let that tail ring out while not doing anything else to the signal.Then just automate the send
this reverb thing is so fucking simple and should not have inspired so many replies lol
>>127715272and as I already explained, a 100% send leads to a 50% wet signal, and if i automate a mute on the track it's coming from, then it doesn't get sent to the return track. again, I've already found a workaround, i just didn't think a workaround would've been necessary
>>127715311are you retarded thats 100 and 100
>>127715318wow, so the same result as a 50. do you even understand how dry/wet works? it simply changes the volume level relationship between a fully wet and a fully dry signal so the sound you end up with when you send 100% of the track to the return is both playing at the same volume, which guess what, is rhe same putting the wet/dry knob at 50%anyway, I'm just gonna hope you were just baiting
>>127715341you are so retarded do you understand how gain works. im glad the spoon hits your mouth in the morning
>>127715346bro I was talking about the timbral quality to begin with you fucking retard. wow, put a 6db attenuation on them, who the fuck cares. the actual sonic result is the exact same (supposing the plugin responds linearly) as putting an insert at 50/50 as you're combining the dry and wet signal in equal measure. you're either too retarded to understand that the question was never about this, or you're a retard who thinks he has to chime in and intentionally miss the pint so he can drop an "umm akshually" when in reality he has nothing at all worthwhile to contribute.
>>127715428this is how i know damn well you dont hit the limiter nicely
i feel like the pro-q frequency masking indicator is punking me a lot of the time t b h
Smushed peaks don't always sound bad i m o
>>127679999Check out this cool lil loop i madehttps://vocaroo.com/1ed79SlF8QSW
>>127717846even with just the drums n bass it slaps 2 weeks from now this'll be slappington cityhttps://vocaroo.com/1oVSmZhVrjoU
>>127704932What if you pay someone with taste to be your creative director while you just act as the frontman like they do in pop?
What can I add to the mix (of a rock song) to make it sound more lo-fi without going overboard or wannabe my bloody valentine
>>127718565You can grab an EQ and roll of the cymbals and the top end of the guitars at 10K, then add a little tape saturation to give it that "hot tape" sound.Then it will sound something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHqr_CaiKZY
>>127718160Good idea
>>127682679>Or better yet, how can we use it to our advantage?If you're feeling really dry, generate an AI song then steal/rearrange/Yoko Kanno the shit out of the track and do the actual instrumentation by humans played with analog instruments. Not sure on the legal and publishing side but once you've modified it enough you could probably get away with it as your own.iirc some millenial guitarists already do something like this, Richardson something and Henson cmiiw generate arpeggios using DAWs and VSTs and then transcribe it on the guitar.
>>127689391It’s cool, dude! A bit boring desu.
>>127714081Yeah good for you anon. Insecure fags itt think every new song has to prove something. I like it
>>127713302Settle down faggot you sound jealous. Post your shit that’s so inspired
did porter robinson just kill a guy?
FL (Florida) Studio apartments for rent
Plebs and fools ("most anons" if you will) don't realise that you are not allowed to post any vocaroos here unless you are pushing the boundaries of modern music and making something fresh and unheard of. Beginners and intermediate frauds be warned - if you post your 1-5-6-4 chord progression here, or your learning exercises where you copy a song from another artist, you will be hunted and killed like the animal you are. I don't make the rules *pumps shotgun* I just enforce them.
>>127718160you are still the final filter.people do that and fail still. who do you think is “directing” all these awful pop acts?
>>127721778I will only pick people with millions of followers and an article on a Conde Nast magazine calling them a tastemaker.
i hate americans
>>127717846>https://vocaroo.com/1oVSmZhVrjoU>>127717951It cool I coomed on it https://vocaroo.com/1bN9YVMz6etP
>>127721956All the worst posters in threads are ESLs or British
>>127722945no all the most obnoxious posters are bots and american chuds
It's big synth.
im bored of posting to the void where else can i shill my music other than /mu/?
>>127722945you wouldnt even know if it is a swede behind a post because their ebonics is well articulated.
>>127721956>>127722990correct and based
>>127720979It's derivative, I'll admit that. I wanted to make something with the energy of Aerodymanic by Daft Punk. And sure, it's almost a copy of certain Ed Banger songs. But I had no intentions of releasing it. It's just that I've tried to nail down the sound of Daft Punk and Justice for years and I was kinda proud that I finally managed to get the drums right, with the exception of the obvious sampled Justice hi-hats.Just years of fucking around with 707 and Linndrum drum and bass kontakt libraries.
>put softsynth into reverb>press oversampling on softsynth>mfw
>>127723259walmart.com product reviews.
>>127725298Is this true?
>>1277231084u
>>127723259>sign up for dating app>make your profile funny and creative, but also shill your music>collect groupies
anon "plays" pianohttps://vocaroo.com/19bArsxhrE1m
>>127727299mmm, you mean senpai 'plays' piano.You nailed that Japanese sound; almost sounds like covers since the harmonic language is so spot on and different from your usual, but your sound design is unmistakable, making it yours.
>>127727372mmmm these are pretty old so my memory is hazy and i may have just been having a ghibli moment, but i only recall explicitly copying that one melody from totoro lol.>different from your usualdamn i feel like that was all standard stuff... i guess i haven't been posting a lot of melodic stuff for a while ._.
https://vocaroo.com/1jDxLx8BMFE2
https://voca.ro/19mDdoztCpYpWhat do you retards think of this? It’s about 60% done and I’m open to suggestions
>>127722643dayum mr shred it sounds like demolition group now lolhttps://youtu.be/hH0tweZgLdc
>>127679999Smells like FUUUUUHHHHHK? Might be pussy in there, there's the Nathan's hot dog eatin contest goin on in thereSalty dogs
>>127682679>>127719573I was thinking that if you have a somewhat unique sound you could try to establish it as its own subgenre or scene by using AI to churn out copycats to popularize it, and the more it gets popular, the more you (as the originator) get clout and recognition.You could use long-term promotion methods on your main account, and short-term ones like botting views/engagement on the copycats, and just let them get penalized in the long term by the algorithm. As long as your sound gets views on TikTok or whatever, it doesn't matter which account it's from.You could even meme in the comments on how shitty the copycat is, like "we got anon at home" jokes and whatnot.
>>127727742Thanks for the rec, I'd never had heard of them from my geographical and musical background.>>127728565Would be funny if this is already in the works. Was reading a lot of obviously botted comments defending and polishing off yungblud on videos shitting on him regarding the VMA performance.
>>127729047brb generating gigabytes of armpit fetish softcore porn to spam 4chan with
i can't continue working whenever i get hungry, brb curse dispelling https://vocaroo.com/1mvL0a2BGFJq
I'm absolutely stuck with a demo song I have in mind.I'm usually happy with the results I get, but it's the first black metal song I write and it turns out like absolute dogshit no matter what I try.Both rythm and lead guitars sound so surprisingly bad I'm at my wit's ends. It can't be only because I'm tuned a whole step down, there's something fundamentally wrong, sound-wise, and I can't put my finger on.Any idea to improve this? (other than delete the whole project because I suck at playing)Here's the first minute of the demo song. I only recorded the first couple of bars with the lead guitar and didn't record the bass yet: https://vocaroo.com/1jETvckSA7T6I'm using a Focusrite audio interface, FL Studio and Amplitube for the amp sim. All recorded pre-processing so I can tweak it. Feels like I used a baby monitor for recording.For reference, I'm usually more into punk songs. Sorry if it sounds weird, I'm still learning to compose/play/record/mix: https://vocaroo.com/16oGTJcc6tHA
>>127729419I uploaded the track, to realize the sampled pluck was out of key. when i tried to reopen the project to fix it, i find out that I couldn't because it is being held hostage by a kontakt instance. riphttps://vocaroo.com/12BzxYJCmWWo>>127729790bring up the guitar in the background and the drums in the mix, they sound buried.bring out the mids and highs of background guitar with some EQ to help it cut through in the mix.use a transient shaper or/and compressor on the drums.i know nothing about double tracking, just mentioning it
new secret weapon dropped
what's a good shimmer reverb? strangely ableton doesn't have a stock one. valhalla shimmer?
>>127730912I agree that the guitar sounds buried.The guitars are double tracked (hard panned as usual), and here's the EQ I'm already using.I'll look into transient shaper and/or compressor on the drums, thanks (I just made the drums with FPC, I don't know much).
>>127730984don't fall for the shimmer memeone trick pony sound
>>127730984https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO57ITnbOGk
https://vocaroo.com/1h7JW6kgZS2Jboo bass supremacy
>>127727486>explicitly copying that one melody from totoro:DI'm not going to do a deep analysis, but just gut feel, maybe it's pentatonic-rich melodies that are giving me those Japanese music vibes.With the exception of the piano sounds, some parts remind me of mu-ziq's Hasty Boom Alert era. I think I've made that connection before about some of your clips, but it's been awhile.Very nice to have a long medley again.
>>127731155boossed
>>127731306BooBassBoobAsscoincidence?
FM Synthesis is a fucking meme
>>127731333probably
>>127730984ableton has a shimmer, it’s in hybrid reverb bro
