New Thread Edition™>Production Resources:https://dmpdoc.neocities.org/https://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6qhttps://pastebin.com/p2QUqMzj>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributorshttp://mu-sic-production.wikia.comUse Vocaroo to post WIPs.https://vocaroo.com/No self-promotion allowed (eg. sharing your soundcloud/youtube links).Sister thread: >>>/g/dmpPrevious: >>127580702
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split processing on the drum tracks produce good results.
i've been using the exact same reese sample every time for two years now
fox stevenson has some really good livestreams to learn frombut his latest output is pretty underwhelming. it's okay but only people who are really into fox stevenson will really enjoy.
why is eq set up in a way that the bandwidth between 1k and 5k doesn't have much resolution?
stop doing it, anon
>>127626535Give me constructive criticism and win one (1) free wish from Cat Genie:https://voca.ro/1bTGj4aJuIzx
>>127626575Makes sense - drum kit is just a condensed orchestra, why not get the same control for every limb?
>>127627473easier to control things like the cymbals and snare
>>127627462thought it was going to be cool at the start and then the rest of the arrangement came in and all the timing was absolutely fucked
>>127627462why is it so out of time?
>>127626570I added bitches:https://voca.ro/19SmCNpgrOLY
>>127627487I was doing it rubato but you right>you riteyou rite>you rite
>>127627642my dude i was trying to NOT scare the hoes damn
what kind of blanket eq should i use on the entire mix?
>>127626570>>127627642Based.
why does this happen? why does a production need so many different engineers?
>>127627462The drums sound like complete ass in the mix, it sounds like something an AI would generate. I would use midi drums as a placeholder if you can't record real drums properly, whatever you're using right now isn't working out.
>>127627820Producer’s like director of a movie2nd guy records stuff, does takes like cameraman3rd mixes editorsNext two are assistants setting up equipment etcLast guy masters polishes, fixes the final mix
>>127627803none just eq the individual tracks>>127627820>producer>"what kinda sound you want? okay" *sets up mics*>actually fucking mixed>bitchwork (organizing and labeling 200 fucking tracks)>bitchwork (editing out all the breaths, squeaks, noise, doing comps if he's lucky)>got paid to be here
>>127627876>none just eq the individual tracksi find the mix is too muddy if i dont apply a slight high boost to the overall mix
After spending a long time on ableton then getting logic on iPad, I’m enjoying it so far playing round but haven’t made anything. Logic holds your hand more, gives you better sounds by far, ableton is more blank page
>>127627887it's not *wrong* to eq your final mix, but if that's something that consistently happens and or you're just working on the track, aware of the mud, you're 100% just being lazy.that laziness is very likely to be bleeding onto the rest of your output.
>>127627942if its not wrong then how am i being lazy? aren't i solving the problem?
On a side note, have you guys seen the interview with David Gilmour? 2 hours long but super interesting as they only talk about the craft of making music and engineering etc. and not the usual talks about the breakup drama etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT_KFCidz_s
>>127627960it is not *theoretically* wrong you are accustomed to boosting the highs of *everything* rather than learning how to mix in such a way that you're getting enough highs from the start, or otherwise contemplating why this is happening in the first place. that is lazy.
>>127627991hands down one of my favorite guitarists. so inspiring.zero interest in what this guy has to say about "engineering" lmao
>>127628006then i will take it off and find ways for the individual elements to shine but i also can't help but feel a mix bus eq helps to tie the overall project together
>groove stealing resonances
>>127628025I don't understand. You don't want to watch the interview? He goes deep into how he creates his music. The interviewer is very good.
>>127628142i was being a dick, sorry.
We are the music makers
I use my openbacks and my monitors at the same time
>>127628949holy chad
https://vocaroo.com/1iXs3DzDacC1>house>electroniccurrent WIP
>>127627834Thanks and you’re right - I was using it as a placeholder.
>>127628493we are the dreamers of dreams
https://vocaroo.com/12Pru1G5B8w9https://vocaroo.com/17FNMlRphlE2are these good enough to show to people or should i be embarrassed about them?
im reading the manual
decided to scale back my guitar tracks and only have two instead of the four and simply turn up the two i already have. sounds a bit clearer
>>127630983Both of them are let down by the drums
>>127630983Would add a shaker at around the :47 mark.something that goes 1234/1234 1234/1234Would layer with other sounds.Add drums, breaks and cymbals. Or just a really good verb'd snare.
>>127631196im reading reddit
>>127630983>>127631247r8/h8 my masterhttps://files.catbox.moe/27b6dn.mp3
https://vocaroo.com/1f72rfjjfdkRquick idea i just started
>>127627820It's just how boomers and Xers operate. They'll waste money on having all kinds of "assistants" and "engineers" who can do what they should know how to do, just to have a bunch of dudes to establish a social hierarchy among.
>>127631247yeah i like shitty old drum machines too much>>127631293i sort of really suck cock at high end mixing so i tend to stay away from cymbals, will take a shaker into consideration tho>>127631537my headphones are too shit to tell what exactly what you did but it does sound better desu thanks broski
>>127627942Meh. You're trying too hard to be that guy. EQ on the master is lazy, sure, but if you don't suck at mixing it'll work just fine. It's often necessary because if you start by lasering in on details, youll often end up with something that's well balanced but doesn't quite have the right overall profile.
>>127631893> Meh. You're trying too hard to be that guyi was restraining myself from calling him deaf and dumb actually.how hard is it to work backwards in this situation:>”fuck that anon! i’m going to EQ the master!”>*adds 6db shelf at 4k*>* self doubt* “what is… changing here..?”>”was it my kick drum that needed that boost or was it my piano? is something in particular easier to hear now..?”>”what if i tried instead to eq..”>”haha just kidding! idc!” *exports and repeat*come on > but if you don't suck at mixing it'll work just finesee that’s really part of a larger problem. that guy sucks at mixing.“that’s not technically wrong ;)” advice really only helps people who already know what they’re doing. telling people who don’t know what they’re doing to do things the “right” way is like a guard rail to guide them into actually learning what they’re doing so they can circle back and get good enough to bend those rules.
>>127630983Just weak melody and drums imo. Nothing satisfying or tension building about the first track. Keep at it though man
>>127631880just got my hand on ozone, so take this as a rough guide:Ozone mastering chain: subtle low and high shelf EQ -> light expansion on lows and highs -> stereo imaging(mono on bass, stereo on high mids and highs) -> clarity(resonance control) -> stabilizer(tonal balance/frequency correction) -> subtle dynamic EQ on mids and highs -> maximizer with transient emphasis. Very subtle high air -> glue compression at -1.2db -> limiter.
>>127629070Cool stuff but I would say a bit too much processing on the vocals. Sounds like you are stacking OTTs or something. I like how wide it sounds though.
>>127632541thanks anon. yeah, i'm using soundtoys' microshift on some of the vocals. i'll definitely tone it down a bit. appreciate the listen. i also have to tone down that bell sound IMO, it's part of the sample and i'm trying to lessen it's resonance. will probably change a few of the synth leads, move stuff around etc.
>>127627834You get one (1) wish from Cat Genie.
>>127627551>professin' my sins UwUI wanted to see how banjo works in a "hyperpop" context. It works and the whistle tone (sine wave) works to wrap the mix up with a wide reverb. I like it and I'll work to get this shit up to portfolio standards.>I offer Ashbie as my sincere apologies, oh great anons
Omnisphere is so nuts man, people who think it's just a rompler are dumb. It has Virtual Analog oscillators for a lot of the best sounding synths out there which were made in collab with the people in charge like Dave Smith. This thing is just as good at just being synth as Uhe Diva but then it has like 10 more things on top. UI is a bit gay though I must admit.
>>127635039>people in charge like Dave SmithDave Smith isn't in charge of shithttps://youtu.be/yj9YcCOioZE
wow bro you're so funny
>>127635151>t. hasn't even been
>>127635039Speak engrish
>>127635039nuh uh romper bad>gay as an insult in current yearyeah nobody should take your opinion seriously >>127635126this timeline is cursed
>>127631880FACTS MACHINE
>>127632239If you reformat that, I think we’d be able to help:>who is weFu niggrs
>>127627487I’m using this as a chorus, what do you think works for a verse?
>>127627551I was going for the behind the beat feel but I didn’t pull it off
>>127635294i only "mastered" his track, it was my first time doing it too
>>127635039>Virtual Analog oscillatorsVA doesn't mean what you think it means
>>127635593>virtual analog doesn't mean digital oscillators which were modeled after analog oscillatorsok
>>127635792VA refers to filters by Zavalishin. "Virtual Analog" oscillators means nothing
https://vocaroo.com/1mvgyzYQVLHDzillenial tim hecker is back with a new bangerslowly but surely hecker's sound is ceasing to be such a mystery
>>127635536KEEPGOING
Hope you're all doing marvelously well!
>>127627797Tame the hoes my son
>>127636485This is really good>I could only take 1:30 of it
>>127636485this sounds nothing like hecker and also hecker's sound and fennesz by extension isn't a mystery. it's "just" samples (of real world instruments or synths) fed into ppooll and then fucked around with with grm tools and arranged.
>>127637030>This is really good>I could only take 1:30 of itso is it any good or not?>>127637052still, max/msp and ppooll are incredibly hard to get into, let alone to do anything listenable with them. there are barely any user friendly resources online on them, and those programs are 100 times more complex than, say, ableton
>>127637104actually not that hard, they have a dedicated discord and also uploaded some tutorials last year for ppooll specifically. some guy on the discord walked me through getting used to ppooll via screen share. they're all very helpful over there.
i looked up everywhere but i still dont understand it how the fuck do i get midi out of any sample. they make it look so easy on ableton. is it a brainlet problem for fl. whenever i pitch sample and send midi to something its nowhere like that.
also ppoll isn't any more complex than ableton, like 50% of the interface is fluff and it just kinda looks impenetrable cause the ui is 2000s tier
i don’t use ppooll just granulator etc and airwindows and i’m basically tim hecker xd
straight from the heckman
Fellas, is it worth blowing a bunch of money on audiophile headphones so I can mix better?
no just buy a pair of ddt 770 (closed) or 990 (open)
>>127637289No, get speakers. I spent the better part of 5-6 years producing and mixing on headphones and my mixes were always off when it came to translation to other soundsystems.Even the most budget tier monitor speakers will improve your mixes, you dont need big, 2000 dollars elac monitors to produce professional mixes.
>>127637307The HD560S is a bit cheaper on sale, I could go with that instead
some of my mates gig i'm having a go at mixing for funSpoken Word: Washing Machinehttps://voca.ro/19YNDCwMaqjkAsteroid Girlhttps://voca.ro/11WY6kK6N2BP
>>127637329>elacfucks sake, I mean genelec
How do I make thin vocals fatter, warmer, and fuller?Using Reaper and I have Ozone 12
>>127637223>needing this many fx to make a "good" sound
>>127637329Will any old budget speakers do? I've been eyeing the Creative Pebble for a while now.
>>127637329any serious producer will have bothpriority order of purchases:>computer>daw subscription>monitors>headphones>instruments
i've set goals myself and i still wind up doing unrelated shit when im in my DAW
>>127637223the most inserts i put on one track will be 2, maybe 3 if im feeling a little devilish. why would anyone need this many inserts?
>>127637289To follow up on this, my current headphones is some fifty dollar corsair crap
>>127637223My CPU would blush if it could see that.
>>127637357>Creative PebbleNah, too small to have any usable low end. 3" woofers or larger. Look on used markets yamaha, genelecs, m-audio, focal, presonus and you can pick something half decent up for a 100-200 bucks.
>>127637368>daw subscription
should i?
>>127637438>>127637441duality of /prod/
>>127637452that isn't a subscription
>>127637452some people spend more money than time on their productions, thinking it's going elevate them from amateur to professional.
>>127637441>>127637368You can just pirate all the software you could every need
>>127637457Okay
>>127637441>cubasewhy would you purchase the worst daw
i remember the very old quote from some guy from adobe saying that if you dont have the money you can pirate photoshop but when you start to make money from it you should go ahead and buy iti really dont see a point in dropping several hundred dollars on a DAW when you can just pirate it for free, considering you are most likely a struggling artist who rarely has a lot of money
>>127637465after going through instances where my daw stopped working and would continually crash, i am not using pirated shit again
https://vocaroo.com/1b0Ckho5nkoF
>>127637493>considering you are most likely a struggling artist who rarely has a lot of moneyi have saved $20,000 in the last 10 months, i am no longer struggling
>>127635039>Omnisphere is so nuts manIt was, 14 years ago. Now it's just a bloated dinosaur for people who love browsing presets.It's like paying 500 dollars to spend your entire music production career window shopping.
>>127637505nice noodles, throw some tape saturation on those drums and you got tame impala.
anyone here have a digitone 2
>>127637498The couple of times I've had problems with a plugin not working I just uninstall and move on.
>>127638061You can also use windows Reliability Monitor to see what program/plugin that actually crashed your daw instead of having to spend half an evening troubleshooting.
>>127638061bro this is Soothe2 for me. I love the plugin as well but it can crash an empty project on my computershit sucks
>>127638128>Soothe2I used to like it, but you can end up in a bad habit of using it to correct poor mixing and the end result is lesser than or worse, just a flat, toothless mix because soothe2 just combs out anything of interest frequency wise.
>>127638300I use it quite sparingly, mainly for de-harshing hihats
What's a good alternative to Modo Bass? It keeps breaking in me.
How the fuck should I know
>>127638664Anon, you're an EXPERT musician, I thought you knew everything!
>>127638685I just fart into my DAW via my sm58 and put reverb on it
>>127638740That right there is why you're the best, boss.
>>127638740which reverb?
>>127638829He won't tell you cause he dudnt doesn't even know what reverb is
>>127637577you right
Working on some songs for an arctic themed gamehttps://voca.ro/1mNjX9SDhMME (Fight theme)https://voca.ro/121CI34WnC9V
>>127637505The polished pop sounding drum sample you used does not match well with the washed out guitar tones that you have in track, I honestly think the virtual drummer that makes drum beats for you in GarageBand could make a more fitting beat. Other than that the guitars sounded nice, I hope you make more music.
https://voca.ro/1fYt3iXYnq9tIt’s pretty. I’d say about halfway done needs a lot more shit and arranging and mixing but throw suggestions at me lads
>>127637104It’s good for Hecker stuff, but not my casual listen.
>>127640486Tighten up the intro, which is a bit long at 0:33. The bass feels like it could have a bit more low mids to tie up the section (you can duck this once the drums come in)
i'm so high... but i have this good groove goinggotta save it somehow
>>127640066>hurr me put steeldrum in my snow song durryou're either the biggest tard going, or trolling. not funny regardless.
>>127640066not sure i heard a single instrument that sounded arctic lol, but i assume you think arctic is when everything is just drenched in reverbi guess i gotta give you some props for at least working towards a concept
>>127640293>Ezdrummer, I return my old friendfor mixing/mastering practice. https://vocaroo.com/11xx5QbMONsUWhat are the best practices when using the master?Nothing on master and compressing the other channels more so touching the master is unneeded? for balance is best practice right?Leave master level at 0 db and mix up/down what you have so it's balanced for the most part? Ever put something on the master or just balancing lanes is better?Let's say that the master track has a limiter on it to keep everything from clipping. But if the limiter was not there, the track would clip in spots.Is this a problem? or is this really not a problem because the limiter is doing it's job?
Macbook air m4 13" is currently on sale for 899256gb 16gbgood idea to pick it up?it should run ableton no problem right
>>127643567>it should run ableton no problem rightShouldnt have any problem, 16 gig ram is a bit on the small side depending on how large your projects are and if you're using alot of kontakt libraries, (think movie/tv scoring or studio session tracking). But if it's just making beats and songs and stuff it should be enough.
>>127643699My biggest project has 40ish tracks Aight
>>127643567The Air can't really get too hot for obvious reasons so if you tend to max out your CPU for extended periods of time you'll have it throttle more than you might be anticipating, and you'll have to freeze/bounce your tracks.The M4 is pretty good, so this might actually never happen, depending on what you do, but it's something to keep in mind.>256gbDepending on your usage, you might need to keep an SSD connected to it at all times.If you're ok with these two issues, it should be perfectly fine for music production.
>>127643703It depends on what's on the tracks.Hundreds of light ones (like just samples being read from the drive, or small synths) can take less RAM than just a couple of heavy ones (like giant multisampled libraries).
>>127643567>it should run ableton no problem rightof course, what year do you think it is m8only problems you could run into would be with sample libraries (kontakt etc.)that said, I don't really get why people wanna produce on a laptop. small ass screen and you have to hook up all manner of shit anyway so it's not exactly portable
>>127630983second track masteredhttps://files.catbox.moe/ajmlu9.mp3>>127636521heckyeah
>new AI mastering meta plugin released
>>127641399Thanks for listening bro - good tips. I’m not really happy at all w the intro and intend to totally rework it tonight
>cant find good vocals on splice (lmao)Any good ai creator that does long vocals?Suno is a pain in the ass to edit out vocals from a song
>>127639255Just checking to say BUGGER OFF!Galactic Reverb, some shit I nicked off rutracker or something most likely
>>127644469kys
>>127644469>lmao>begging for ai
>>127644697>>127644742I mean you guys can sing if you want toI for one want a good vocal
the next part of this track >>127631858 https://vocaroo.com/1bpZsCfUUwZVi need to fix my snare :(
https://vocaroo.com/1hNgs95pIMUIpitch modulation as you change the size of the reverb, really fucking cool
so if a clipper, on drums, shaves of transients which gives you extra db headroomwhy shouldnt you clip your drums all the time, say in a drum group?
>>127645101Sometimes the decay is the same level as the attack so you’re flattening a lot of the drum, is a guess, but you may as well try it every time
>>127645097very cool>>127645101because some are already clipped or sound worse with it.doing so may alter how more compression/distortion etc down the line interactsit's a balancing act across how much you add on individual drums, then your busses...shit's like cooking. little by little as you go, can't do it all in one stage etc
>>127643567Logic Pro, that’s a good set up but pirating is more difficult
>>127645097you shillin', son? cause it's worked, that sounds pretty cool.
today i will make crazy impulse responses for teh BASS and make pretty glitchy atmosphere
>>127646064Bas(s)ed and (impulse)r(espons)edpilled
https://vocaroo.com/19nh8UMkheG2
halp. wtf is happening here in reaper with the glitchy ring mod shit, is my computer or the quad cortex choking? Reckon it's the former as when I added more plugins and cabs it got worse. wat do? thank youhttps://vocaroo.com/1fQIphZZI1La 20 sec onwards
>>127638300Don’t push it too hard?
>>127635039Yes it’s great for cinematic music. You could have no arms and still make a great soundtrack with it, also it has a great sampler if you can be bothered, but no one can be including myself
>>127647468WAT indeed. First, Reaper thinks you're using ASIO, but that NeuralDSP control panel says that ASIO isn't active.Second, why are you showing us a DirectX control panel if you're trying to use ASIO? ASIO skips DirectX subsystemI think some more manual-reading might be in order for you, your glitches could be some sort of ASIO fuckery and you might need to trace this from start to end to find where the misconfig is
>>127647468>>127648157Also, your buffer size in the NeuralDSP control panel is 16 samples, depending on your computer hardware that might be too small, try increasing it to test, it will add more latency but that's the balancing act we play
>>127645101Because transient dynamics are important for certain sounds. Everyone has been clipping drums and the mix for years in search of loudness and it makes music sound worse on the whole. Then you want to make your mix more dynamic and you try to restore them with expanders.There are a bunch of "loudness war" examples on old youtube.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEFyNdB13vgYou shouldn't always clip or not clip your drums but do what helps the mix. Sometimes those transients are needed to make a song feel alive and in some genres they're fine to clip
>>127648728This was the "example" I was looking for, classic 2006 youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ
>finally listen to album I've been wanting to listen to for 8 years but never got to for whatever reason>didn't like it, sounded worse than expected>realize after finishing it that I had my system audio set to mono>mfw this is like the 10th time it happens
>>127649041Did that on my phone for 5-8 months recently because some ASMR vids were poorly mixed lol. Was wondering why some albums I knew very well were missing parts I enjoyed
>>127640066Change the synths at :30ish. Make them more windy sounding - they’re a bit jarring.The soundtrack is busy which should match the initial pace of the level (is there a build-up that needs a fanfare?)
>>127640066But the tubular bells/steel pan is good for an adventure side-scroller
>>127626535How do I get my bass to sound like this in Ableton (pic rel). I have a flatwound and a roundwound p bass.
>>127649167Sound like what?>>127642807No one knows best practices but just putting a limiter will crush dynamics.
>>127649290oh i am a retard
>>127649075Lmao it's surprisingly easy to not notice if you don't think about it.It happens while I'm producing as well, but there I notice pretty much immediately.
>>127649167use a guitar amp you dork have you even checked equipboard yet lol
>>127649167They have a rigg rundown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFIt0pNPjmY&ab_channel=PremierGuitar
>>127649167>>127649290>>127649290DFA 1979 bass tone. How can I do it in the box (Ableton)?
>>127650574Every comment applies. You're a retard who can't click links or post their work
these are not my dreamsi saw death from above two days in a row actually they were insaneIFeelLikeDirtanyway i just did this all in one sitting (i actually slept last night) and i also finally called to make an appointment I've been putting off for three months now praise me and call me a good girl I DON'T CARE I DON'T CARE I DON'T CAREEEhttps://vocaroo.com/15CO7jEZW1NX
>>127645944lel, just genuinely wanting to share it
>>127650865Good girl(dog)
>>127650865i love death, a chill dude
soundfonts testhttps://vocaroo.com/19XScpHlju7O
>>127652245kick hits a bit hard in the mix, distracted me from the rest of the track
>>127641399https://voca.ro/1katQZVZniTZWorked on it for a while tonight what do ya think?
>>127651819I think he’s asking if you have your shit in the shill thread cus he wants to hear more
>>127650865:3 very niceI don't remember what the beat was, but I remember really liking a beat that was on that pink DFA album.
>>127645944Anon, those time warped sounds aren't hard to make as long as you stack two delays on top of each other and you modulate the delay time to change over time. These wacky sounds I made don't exactly sound the same but I was able to make this in five minutes.https://vocaroo.com/1of1z5GNQhiu
>>127648157>>127648279Thanks m8 now it just werks. Changed to the usb 3.2 port from the 2.0, disabled power saving on the usb ports on device manager, changed buffer size to 128. Ring mod glitch gone, and surprisingly the latency wasn't that bad at 128; the latency was really annoying me before hence I set it at 16. Probably changing the USB port was the one that helped a lot.
Save project.Reinstall.RescanRestart computer.
>>127649296It’s ok, you tried
bump
i made 70 songs in the past yearHow do I turn those 70 songs into 10-15 good songs so that I can make a decent album?Like, how do I make the selections for those that have potential? Lets say 20. Then out of those 20 i work on them more, enchancing them, figuring out the weaknesses and what they lack, maybe reworking stuff. Then out of those i select the final 10-15 songs. Is that a good plan? Or is there something else im missing?
>>127658398Jus b urslef :^)
>>127658398>Like, how do I make the selections for those that have potential?>how do i know what sounds good?anon???no really: if you're starting out already not having an idea of some sort of through-line, a concept, or *something* to work with, then it's just going to be a random collection of songs.*for me* patterns just become apparent. for others, they write groups of songs to that point.if your songs aren't that formed yet, maybe you should come up with a concept and develop them all more to fit it.
>>127658609well i obviously want my albumnt to be a coherent group of songs but when i made those songs i didn't have an idea in mind, i just go with the flow and figure something out on the way. that's why there are many genres in those 70 songs and a lot of them sound different than each other. I will try to figure out what's the recurring theme and then see what songs fit them. Also, I have trouble thinking in concepts, especially for electronic music. Like, what concept could there even be? They are abstract music mostly, most of it doesnt even have vocals or lyrics. You mean the concept like some message or situation the album is describing? Like the story behind it? I could work with that and figure something outBut how do I make the songs i finished months ago better? Usually when i feel like they are finished i dont touch them anymore thats why i have no idea what to do
>>127653095that's really cool thanks for breaking it downdid a little test: https://vocaroo.com/1JvmeWFZunpa
>>127658664concept isn't inherently about narrative; i use that word specifically to speak to artistic presentation. style/aesthetic is the big one, of course, but it can also be as specific as "these are all drums with autistic focus on the drums" "me studying this style of harmony..." etc (a.g cook style), or as vague as "sad songs."if your music is "abstract" the common thing may just be the sound palette that you use.i would throw out OPN as an example where the songs can all be pretty whacked out but there's an obviously audible style, and there are small consistent details imparted onto pre-existing compositions (e.g all the vocals are processed one way, it's consistently produced to be "lo-fi and dreamy" a lot of analog, a lot of in your face retro-digital sounds etc).if the songs are finished then maybe you need to un-bake and re-produce them to fit together more cohesively. or not. i haven't heard them. idk.
i use presets now
I've seen talk of people making out that Fruity Limiter just isn't that good, is this true? What 3rd party limiters do anons use (in whatever DAW you use)?
>>127659423let's hear them then, champ, post a preset song for us
>>127659523i'm not done yet :(
https://vocaroo.com/1lhFw8Ckbi0Z
chris johnson should make a container plugin like snapheap/multipass where you can click to menu to select a plugin, and where all the crossovers are built in and you can select which of his algorithms you want to use. and then macros/lfos, of course.that would be so swag.
okay i'm posting ithttps://vocaroo.com/17JfbUBsqAFn
>>127659664Boy do I have news for you
>>127659879Is this the preset song?What did you use?
i literally can't make music because sound selection is too difficult
>>127660775just copy other people
>>127660403+fm8 (dx7 e-piano basically)
>>127660879Based
so is 174 the max bpm i should go for if?my stupid adhd brain always wants at least 180
>>127660949The human ear can only perceive up to 128 BPM
>>127660963house producers piss me off so much
I just found this track on my drive, and I remember I made the background texture by using some program that allowed you to turn files into audio data. and this audio file is called WoW.exe on my pc, so I'm pretty sure I put the WoW exe or its Desktop shortcut into that conversion program. Does anyone know what program that might've been? I thought maybe it was audacity but maybe not.It sounded very cool.https://voca.ro/1omMEUtAJpqq
>>127660969Yeah I'm more into field producers myself
>>127659879global communication type beat
https://vocaroo.com/1fWou8GszrwXHad a fucking helluva time getting the pitch right for the vocals cus I’m retarded. Anyway I’m gonna keep rearranging it but it’s sounding pretty sweet
>>127659879Sounds lovely
>>127660775I am also terrible at sound selection>And at melody, structure, rhythm, production
>>127661638I'm actually a god at melody and harmony, I just never know how to actually arrange my shit or what type of music to package it as because my brain conjures a dance version, orchestral version, soundtrack version and r&b version simultaneously.
i give uphttps://vocaroo.com/19geDqq2zsYC
>>127661464This sounds smooth as fuck, but there's something funky going on with the chords in the breakdown part in the middle, some disharmony. If you cant tell, transpose the whole thing up 4-5 semitones and you'll hear it with fresh ears and you'll probably hear what I'm refering to.
I think i'm going to abandon my modestly successful band camp and sound cloud but starting over is too much of a commitment.
>>127661464buy the licensing for it.
>>127662101I like it, really enjoyed the slowed down progressive trance vibe of it, but I'm not so certain about the very exagerated 909 kick, it really draws your attention away from the rest of the track, maybe a shorter kick with a faster pitch. But that might be an aesthetic choice on your part so opinions might differ.
>>127662155no
>>127662128Okay thanks a lot anon
>>127662165Noted, ill experiment with a tighter kick, and put some more effort into the whole thing tomorrow. I was going for a deep house vibe at first, i ended up defaulting to trance lol
>>127644099Add bitches too. I sampled the audio from lesbian scenes in The Unbewrabke Lightness of Being.
https://voca.ro/18EPszRhKn35tried to do an industrial song, what is that i'm doing very wrong
>>127662812everything is mixed like it's part of a separate song
https://vocaroo.com/1htnJOlUupelnow i rest
>>127662101>>127662310BPM is a bit low for Trance, but it does have a trance-y feel to it. Doesn't really sound Deep House though. It's probably closer to Melodic House. The issue though is that feels a bit too disjointed, like there's too much going on, too many different sounds, and they aren't fitting together that well, especially the first half. It's not that they couldn't work together... they just aren't right now. I like from ~1:50 to the end though, but that weird noise is kind of harsh to listen to.Is this the kind of vibe you were going for, as an example?https://youtu.be/_KGRzOKclfct. the trance anon from /dmp/
>>127662443holy basedI added morrissey
>>127626535Dr. Dre is hands down my favorite producer. Only his pre chronic album work thoEazy-E - Cassette Single (1988)https://youtu.be/eTPAOfo8b0E?si=JH14rxZR7C1xl6cs
>>127662128Did I fix the keys…? I feel like I did but I’ve got ear blindness going on even after following your suggestion. And is it too bassy now towards the end?
>>127662128Sorry I’m a fucktard and forgot the link. Here it ishttps://vocaroo.com/1gdxzuo2Y91J
>>127663296Fucking sweet as usual tranny-kunThanks for posting. Do you post in the shill thread? I really like your music and would like to hear more. This is probably my favorite thing you've posted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvdpsp_i3GABRB adding Pennsylvania Dutch predrops to all my bangers
I bought a new bridge for both the stratocaster and jazzmaster and some 12-54 gauge strings, along with some 60-120 for the bass. still thinking of getting a 5 string bass. anyone got some recommendations?
im totally deaf to this song now can i get a second opinion ?
you won't see the second vocal sample @ ~1:15 coming lolhttps://vocaroo.com/1cSIzC4xe1IEtrading feedback if thats a thing here
>>127665827LOL LOL I FORGOR TO LINK FOROG TO LINK THA VOCAROO https://voca.ro/1bYCgTAmynho
>>127663296oyasumi senpai :3>>127664014>tranny-kunx_x>>127665836I dig the dazed dreamy atmosphere you got going on there.
>>127665832i didn't see it coming but it fits so well there. my only note is that i feel like it could use a unifying motif/theme. it's very crisp and refreshing and groovy, but it felt like 3 different songlets. but that's a matter of opinion.hey, what's the first vocal sample ? she sounds like Toxe
>>127665951yeah you're not wrong. i'm prone to writing in a way where i just continue finding vibes i like and then trying to string them together. will try to work on itFirst vocal? S.P. Lice lol
>>127658609>how do i know what sounds good?I know there’s a lot of hobbyists here who enjoy making their own beats. It’s great you can do that. But if you’re asking this question, the answer is, your music doesn’t sound good. You’re not going to fool people by putting out stuff you yourself are indifferent about, and shouldn’t. You should more respect for yourself and the public.
>>127626535wip https://voca.ro/1gTwln8qU1KH
>>127666669you misunderstood me, i mean't how do i know how to improve a song when im reworking the track to be better. i have some small following and couple of sales already and i always try to make good music. i enjoy listening to my musicalso, i didn't even write the sentence you are quotingthe whole point is to make something that sounds good. but when i finish a track i struggle with finding out ways to further improve the song cause i want to make 1 concise album out of everything i worked on for the past year
>>127667069Nta, but do you use reference tracks?When I listen to great music similar to mine, then switch to one of my tracks, it's immediately apparent where and how mine is worse and needs work (for most tracks it's pretty much everything lol).
>>127667124i do sometimes use reference tracks at the start of a project just to get the ball rolling and to pick up some initial basic stuff, then i usually continue on my own. but that's a great idea, i will try out that approach
>my country blocked rapidgatorIt's over
>>127667362VPN's, motherfucker, do you know them?
>>127667427Brother I'm sad about not being able to access Rapidgator, do you think I have money for VPNs?But I'm just being dramatic, it's probably just a DNS block and it still works on the computer. I'm just bummed about it not working on the phone (where I don't want to change the DNS)
tis but a shitpost(183bpm)https://vocaroo.com/1abOH23rSj1T>>1276632960:55 onward sounds blissful>>127666960I love this, highs are harsh and clicky>>127663529i suck ass at labeling genres, my thought process was to create some sort of a deep vibe revolving around the clap timbre, with some tech house percussion + techno rumble kick, with a deep groovy bass. your reference track perfectly reflects what I was going for mid-production. I'll make two different tracks recycling the same drums, one similar to your ref track(I wanna try some brass), and a second for what I was going for at first(sidechained/gated chords): https://youtu.be/qKsVoTOSbuE?si=f5wfK8aNMJ99qjX9&t=61
think it might be a good idea to try to cover a simple song in order to get used to working in Ableton. any suggestions? i was thinking nightcall or real human bean
>>127670237better than that: put the track you wanna cover into the ableton project and analyze the different parts. then use those relationships as a guideline. fuck it, use the same chords if you wanna. i found that to be a more fulfilling, experimental, and educational way to play with ableton. and that way, there's no way for your anything you do to be "wrong" because it's still mostly original
>>127670237>>127670630Do both obviously.
>>127669385All the various sub-genres are a pain in the ass, ESPECIALLY for House... but in my mind, generally at least, Melodic and Progressive House are basically Trance, but at a slower BPM (120-130) with less filler and much more subtle build/release structures.
Is there room for vocals on this?https://voca.ro/1obdTnmH75uc
>>127671849>grab a mic or your phone or whatever>sing som gibberish into it, dont think about lyrics at this point, just basic melody lines >put it on the track>see if it works>success
what synth is used at the start?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBsVQft7lSs
>>127671969>what synth is used at the start?It's a guitar mate
>>127672003>It's a guitar matehow do they get that sound in that quick intro solo?
>>127672176>>127671969why are zoomers like this
>>127672209what's wrong with the question? I'm just asking how they got a sound. If it wasn't a synth then what sort of fx pedal was it?
>>127672230It's two guitars, playing the same run an octave apart, panned hard left/right.here you can hear them seperately. Just split the stereo track. https://vocaroo.com/14uCCuyMaK7s
>>127672230it took me about 90 seconds to track down what was likely used.>what's wrong with the question?you've shown that you put negative effort into an already dumb question and you don't deserve an answer
>>127672289To add, if you want that effect yourself, just record your guitar. Copy it into two tracks. Take on guitar, run it through an amp sim plugin. Take the other track, pitch it up an octave, run it through an amp sim plugin.For that extra chorusy sound, take one of them and put it 20ms behind the other.
>>127672289>>127672389>it's 2 guitarsno it's not. it's just every amp's standard octave up stock effect. hsd that on my line 6, on my vox... always sounds weird like this. definitely nothing as fancy as two separate guitar recordings
>>127672545It was recorded in the 1980s. Amps didnt have that function back then, most likely just guitar into a splitter, one into one amp, another into a octave pedal into another amp.
>>127672579so then it was an octave pedal, whatever it was, it wasn't 2 separate takes
>>127672595Imagine being this much of a faggot that you're going to nitpick that it wasnt two fucking guitars but a pedal, even though the effect and end result is going to be the same. Fucking christ.
on what planet does that sound like an octave lmao
>>127672654on any planet that isnt inhabited by the tonedeaf
>>127672673listen to the last notes tail out if you can't keep up.those are different notes you retard.
>>127672691damn, I really wanna hear your music now, it must sound... interesting
you're right i'm killiing myself
>>127672648>nitpick that it wasnt two fucking guitars but a pedal, even though the effect and end result is going to be the same. Fucking christ.not at all the same, retard price shifting algorithms sound fundamentally different from just recording the instrument an octave higher. you'd know if you made music.
>>127672291>it took me about 90 seconds to track down what was likely used.How did you track it down?
>>127671969>>127672289I don't think that's just a pitch shift. It almost sounds like they are using another effect as well.
>>127673070No you're right. There's some short slapback reverb/delay on both and they're slightly out of time with each other (probably to create as wide of an effect as possible) so it sounds kinda chorusy.
>>127673026wikipedia. google the guitarists name + rig.that information is widely available for anything popular.anyway that shit is pretty of its time.the guy named a 5150 specifically for "van halen esque tones."i don't know what you''re doing but amp sims are widely available too and you don't need a clone to get a similar sound, though you will need a lot more to get an exact sound.
>>127673147>anyway that shit is pretty of its time.was winger that good?
>>127673325well, i can't name a single song by then. i just meant that their songwriting and sound is clearly influenced by their contemporaries and trend chasing (i'd assume) (like the aforementioned van halen). with the trappings of that, one can assume a lot about how they were produced- even if they're not well documented themselves, you'll get similar, if not better information looking up any of their contemporaries.
>buzzing sound on the left ear cup of headphones when there's subbassany fix or is it owari da
>>127673370Their most famous song is probably 17:https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=KsthiOYDM9A
>>127673413well...i'm gonna go listen to motley crue now
they used double harmonizers
>>127673440I also like motley crue more.I haven't listened to much winger, but i think this is their best song: https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=CDUxmRBWncE
>>127672545>it's just every amp's standard octave up stock effect.lmao
>>127673659yeah i dont think most amps have octave up effects
>>127652451Intro is stillToo long get rid of 2 - 4 bars (I think I counted 10 in the beginning)The drumbeats feelA little ahead of the beat, which clashes with the laidback keys
>>127658398Just keep producing stuff. You can put stuff up in Bandcamp and Spotify if you want to use it as a portfolio.
NOBODY HERE WILL EVER MAKE ANYTHING THIS GOODAND IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE THE MOST ANNOYING TUNE OF ALL TIMEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTHjtd06V-s
>>127674309>i wanna 121 with youit's literally fucking catchy if they were selling some actual product i would have bought it by now
>>127674608Wheeeee!https://vocaroo.com/11btawG9YXgl
>>127664014> Do you post in the shill thread? Ithanks but no i don’t lol sry
>same name on discLike ten years ago I bought a couple stacks of lightscribe CDs thinking I would make a mini album or something and print them myself... never did anything (._. )If I purchase your album, will the money find its way to you? lolPerhaps this holiday season...Just talking to myself. hitorigoto.desu.
>>127675786dang i keep forgetting to take that outi haven’t set up the pay thing and don’t plan to because i have negative money anyway
>>127675859Shoot, I was thinking it would be worth it for all your vocaroos that I have saved. Someday you're gonna make it. I just know it.
>>127676016lol thanks, but genuinely you should bet on a mental breakdown before "makes it."
i use the exact same harmor sample in every song
why do none of the stock Ableton synth presets sound good
>>127676136I hope not. When I think of making it, I think of making it spiritually. Continuing to have your music out there resonating with people. It's all part of the keikaku.
>>127676510yeah same. that's a pretty reasonable goal
goodnight bros we will make more bangers tomorrowzzz
I took a track of one of the anons from the thread and made a video for this trackhttps://youtu.be/idNmMRDHE_0?si=KxZX0iskYxEBB5Ps
>>127677461how many hours does something like this take you?
>>127677461terrible tiktok-style sloppa for retards
Been sketching this today, any thoughts?https://voca.ro/12TAp8m3qKJxI am already planning on how to build on it I'm very excited
>>127677603idk just slices of my works in programs. I've done them at different times.>>127677626Yeah bro, it's trending
>>127677626Bravo
>>127677867>it's trendingyours sure as fuck isn't, and if it does it's not gonna be on your lazy done-to-death visuals, it will be from anon's WIP that you stole from these threads. maybe take another 3 year break until you think of some original ideas.
>>127679003Settle down shitlord. It’s a neat little video he made off a random vocaroo from a /prod/ thread lmfao all worked up posting Reddit burns
>>127631242Good on you, I hate stacking. I know what it's supposed to do, but every time I've ever had it done for me or tried doing it, I never like it, without exception. I think the only time it makes sense is for shit like Nirvana when it's a production choice and not an engineering trick. And if I'm not performing the take closely enough, what does that mean? That you can hear it? So the point is to *not* hear it? So then how about just not doing it?! What am I missing
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