Giga Chad Scriabin Editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAawLHi9ahkThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>128080852
First for Schumann third rate romantic
badass male music for men
Scriabi's Diner
>>128106037Finally, a sexy editionScriabinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhAQjqfew2g
updated my computer this morning and then an hour into having it on, it crashed while listening to Bach. Hopefully that's not indicative of things to come, wtf
Wacky Woo hoo Jazz chord man
Looking for some Hiss heavy recordings of Scriabin 10
confession: I don't really care for Liszt's Transcendental Etudes>>128106308you probably found this too buthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbeC0_8kIloand then light hiss Sofronitskyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESUSVP02WiQ
>>128106340the Etudes don't care for you either
>>128106308why.jpg
Anyone remember the Pfitzner memes from years ago?
>>128106424There is some music that sounds good in hiss. Prokofiev's music, for another example.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPX1TEfhlw0ya feeel?
>>128106468Pfitzner IS the meme
>Preludio & Fuge:/>Prelude & Fugue:)>Praeludium & Fuga:O
Thoughts on Tartini?
>Präludium und Fuge
HELP! I'm listening to Tureck's WTC (remastered!) and the sublime euphoria is overwhelminghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDJdJVqcw24&list=OLAK5uy_kcMChOnev3PHY2J6et9yG-9S1GBFsuWyQ&index=23(for the sickos who want the hiss)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuEjt7giyS4&list=OLAK5uy_nHtFdzWlFTJK2Q_IB_kTgFdQidSZqqk04&index=23
Which one do you prefer, Chopin's Mazurkas, Polonaises, Scherzi or Rondos?
>>128106635Mazurkas, easilyTook me a bit to appreciate their excellence. For a longtime I thought they were just throwaway tunes but I was wrong
>>128106635I forgot Waltzes.
>while in shower, decide I'm gonna listen to Ashkenazy's complete Chopin set>pull it up on YouTube Music>it's all out of ordergoddamn it
>>128106635Scherzos easily. They are his most elaborate one-movement works next to the ballades, barcarolle, fantasy in F and polonaise-fantaisie.
>Scriabin's Dinner
>>128107140thanks ESL sister
>>128107140:p
Based Musketeer's Marchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z5y1I3prLE
>>128106468Remember me, /classical/?
Never forget that before that worthless little restaurateur Scriabin, you came to me when you wanted music to listen to dick in hand.https://youtu.be/_QH2FUaGgY8
>>128107396I don't know you
>>128107396hail
>>128107438Feels more like sleet to be honest
Chopin's Preludes are too beautiful for this world
>>128107752What's your favorite recording?
>>128107797It might honestly be one of those "my favorite is whichever I'm listening to and enjoying" kind of works.and currently playing ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0od4qdHq9c&list=OLAK5uy_m7dHdknbOR9zMqTD3cLtqmqbgYJxwt0Tw&index=4
>>128107797not him but Julien Brocal
>>128106529Idk. What should I listen from him?
>listening to recording>YouTube Music has "Releases for you" recommendations at the bottom>see a modern Beethoven's complete symphonies from a unrecognized composer with a foreign name, Sony logo on top>click on recording to see the runtimes aka tempos of the movements, looks good, but the name + orchestra name is too long so it gets cut off>click back to copy and paste the conductor's name from the previous page, on the "Releases for you" bar>the recommendations are refreshed and it's goneoh come on...
>>128107908unrecognized conductor*, not composer, whoops
>>128107908lmao good luck finding it
>>128107813Hey that's the one prelude I can actually play on the piano!
>>128108093Is it difficult? Do you plan on learning any of the others? Some are quite short and beautiful.
>>128108108It's probably the easiest to play. The C minor prelude is also easy, learnt half of it, then gave up. I should get a teacher :p
Is it possible to perfectly reproduce someone else's performance over a sustained period or is classical music performance the kind of thing that's unique for any given occasion?
>>128108200Not a pianist, but from what I can tell, it's usually very hard if not impossible to imitate someone's technique, and hard to replicate your own performance exactly the same way
>>128108243Makes sense, thanks.
>>128107797aAAaaaaAAaAA
>>128107816Never heard of him; listened to his set just now and am of two minds. The places where he toes the line of "standard" interpretation are as good as any I've heard, but the places where he deviates from common performance practice are as often as not a detriment to the music. Mind you, he's not just changing random things for the sake of it, I can see the vision quite clearly in most cases, I just happen to disagree. An interesting listen for sure. Would recommend anons check it out.
I love harpsichord
>>128108605It's one sided, I'm afraid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo-H3diRRLENotker Balbulus and beforeAnders Hillborg and afterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28gDrKkBStE
>>128108743I recommend playing both videos at the same time for an unforgettable experience
best separate recordings of Rachmaninov's Piano Concerto Nos. 2, 3 & Paganini Rhapsody?
>>128109118https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4rpd2NUcNEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRQpTP0JY6s
maho more like my whorehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRyftGuoyj8
>>128107752>>128107797>>128107813>>128107816>neurotics
>when its time for the daily reminder
>Today I will remind themBABAB>DAILY REMINDER>DAILY REMINDERIAAAAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyWOIKCtjiw&list=RDKyWOIKCtjiw&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLugJIWdpCM&list=RDtLugJIWdpCM&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-utT-BD0obk&list=RD-utT-BD0obk&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxx7Stpx7bU&list=RDcxx7Stpx7bU&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCoOqsxLxSo&list=RDkCoOqsxLxSo&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgjwiadze1w&list=RDSgjwiadze1w&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ44z_ZqzXk&list=RDOQ44z_ZqzXk&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGyBRbbHpno&list=RDpGyBRbbHpno&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
>average BABIAA listenerWe will disarm and subdue every 18th-19th century heretic that would put on a Mozart Piano concerto or Chopin NocturneWe are the Mockers of MozartWe put a chokehold on classicismWe are the Cuckolders of ChopinWe are the Rapists of RomanticsWe are the murderers of MahlerWe strike fear in every pretentious and neurotic writer of 1 hour symphonies
>Listening to Bach>not listening to Mozart>Listening to Marais>Not listening to Haydn>Listening to Ravel>not listening to Mahler>listening to Stravinsky>not listening to Schoenberg or ShostakovichIs there a better feeling in this world?
>Your Romanticism>My Foot>Your Classicism>My FistI will crush the Mozart enjoyers, and liberate the Chopin listeners with Vivaldi, Josquin, and Perotin
>Bach>Machaut>Ives>Marais>Buxtehude>Stravinsky>Reich>BartokNo Mozart, No Brahms, No Haydn, No MahlerNo Autistic Teutonic spirit shall oppress or taint the Gallic, Latin, and Slavic soul
Mozart gives me the ick,As does Brahms, Mahler, early-middle Beethoven, Bruckner, Chopin, Schumann, Strauss II, Hindemith, Schoenberg, Reger, Berg, Tchaikovsky, Boulez, Stockhausen, Haydn, Bruch, Salieri, Shostakovich, Clementi, and ProkofievThat is all
>when they listen to Mozart and Haydn concertos and completely neglect the Sun Kings court>When they listen to vocal works by Verdi, Rossini or Puccini, but not Palestrina or the Franco-Flemish School>When they don't listen to Marin Marais more frequently than Beethoven or Brahms>No Perotin or Medieval Music
NO MOZARTNO CHOPINNO MAHLERALL ROMANTICS SCRAM!ALL CLASSICISTS EAT SHIT AND DIETHIS THREAD IS FOR MARIN MARAIS!SONATA FORM SHOULD DIEONLY CONCERTO GROSSO FOR I!HAYDN IS LIKE A ROTTEN WHEATWHAT I NEED IS A BACH CELLO SUITEBACH AND BEFORE, IVES AND AFTER
>>128109805i,m want lick in her armpit ..
>>128107797https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2--MB8cuYlM
wtf this is actually goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWHdSYiIsgU
>Giuseppe Francesco Gaspare Melchiorre Baldassare Sammartini>Muzio Filippo Vincenzo Francesco Saverio Clementi>Maria Luigi Carlo Zenobio Salvatore Cherubini>Giacomo Antonio Domenico Michele Secondo Maria Puccini>Ferruccio Dante Michelangiolo Benvenuto Busoni>Atanasio Martin Ignacio Vicente Tadeo Francisco Pellegrin Martin y Soler >Manuel María de los Dolores Clemente Ramón del Sagrado Corazón de Jesús Falla y MatheuDo mediterraneans really
>>128103402even picasso admitted that he was basically bullshitting. he drew quick sketches to pay for bar tabs. i have been in a, i don't know, dream-like, sleep-deprived, perhaps dehydrated state where i was half asleep but conscious, and "hallucinating" things which you could draw straight onto a canvas and it would look like art, with zero effort of my own but merely observing my hallucinations. anyone with a reasonably capable brain could put in the same amount of effort as mahler and get similar quality results, it's just that these things have been historically gatekept so that you would have to come from a rich family or impress someone like mozart at an audition but some poor kid from the other side of the world wouldn't have a chance to be heard by mozart. with modern music there's also a lot of gatekeeping even though normies like to tell themselves that anyone can record a hit record in their bedroom it's not actually like that, even billie eilish has been exposed as an industry plant, even justice showed a picture of their first studio setup and they had thousands of dollars of equipment that most babby tier anons would never even know that they should buy.https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting/comments/1khd4vk/pablo_picasso_draws_a_facebird_thing/
>>128111907
>>128111967typical brainrotted boomer. you live in a dumbed down world where you have categorized mahler as a genius like some cringe celebrity worshipper that makes you no better than a taylor swift fangirl and you're missing out on lots of other music.
>>128112008
>>128112012seethe
>>128111907Anon, you're too smart to seriously be comparing Picasso's bar tab sketches to his serious art. As for the rest of your post, I got no idea what you're saying. Mahler was an industry plant?>>128111967>>128112012I would ban you if I could
>>128112026idk, these things are complicated. people disagree on what music even is. mahler has some dramatic music but is that what i even want to listen to and what about movie scores and whatnot that came after him. someone would have to be quite privileged to have the best teachers and dedicate his life to composing and he still might not have fortune and fame thrown at him like mahler got because the expectations are different now than during mahler's time. is mahler going to be held in the same regard as bach, mozart, beethoven 500 years from now, i doubt it.
>>128112189>is mahler going to be held in the same regard as bach, mozart, beethoven 500 years from now, i doubt it.If Schoenberg is the James Joyce of classical music, Mahler is the Proust. I'm sure he will be. Let's agree to disagree then.
For tonight's Bach Well-Tempered Clavier, we listen to Jill Crossland's.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HQOFGC3kdo&list=OLAK5uy_mM1mDXcqi8EdFKtgA-gPsOFQNGuPlh9Ds&index=23
>typical brainrotted boomer. you live in a dumbed down world where you have categorized mahler as a genius like some cringe celebrity worshipper that makes you no better than a taylor swift fangirl and you're missing out on lots of other music.>seethe>I would ban you if I could
>>128112252>Schoenberg is the James Joyce of classical music
now playingstart of Beethoven: String Quartet No. 1 in F Major, Op. 18 No. 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g8UROp713M&list=OLAK5uy_klYv0boLc538CakT8MhkBkt8t3oMlGI3w&index=2start of Beethoven: String Quartet No. 2 in G Major, Op. 18 No. 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw3mR6OoYcI&list=OLAK5uy_klYv0boLc538CakT8MhkBkt8t3oMlGI3w&index=6start of Beethoven: String Quartet No. 3 in D Major, Op. 18 No. 3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH0Lmwym7U8&list=OLAK5uy_klYv0boLc538CakT8MhkBkt8t3oMlGI3w&index=9https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_klYv0boLc538CakT8MhkBkt8t3oMlGI3w>The third and final instalment in their award-winning series, the Calidore Quartet return with a three-disc release of Beethoven Early Quartets. One can never have too many cycles of Beethoven's string quartets.
>>128112501>>128112026>>128111907Mahler is pretentious garbage and an insult to classical music, but that sprawling wall of text, struggling to land a single coherent point epitomizes midwit drivel. topping it off with a Reddit link? it's too perfect, Then you reply to your own garbage post, staging a fake argument with yourself in a pathetic bid to draw attention to your awful drivel. And here's this cuck (likely you as well) >>128112026 fawning with "you're too smart" laughable, no, he's not smart in the slightest. Anyone with an IQ above room temperature can spot the shallow, midwit ploy: "hurr durr, I got an AI to vomit up a wall of text to impress the retards on this shitty Indian turd collecting forum" fuck off retard(s)
>>128112711tl;dr
>>128112715thanks
>>128112711>if I insult everyone I demonstrate my superiority word-vomityawn
>>128112744 how else am I supposed to protect my fragile self-importance
>>128112744everyone meaning just you?
>>128112772whoa calm down tiger go easy on him
>>128112744>deflectionYour "yawn" is just cope for getting dragged, it's not superiority when the target's a steaming pile of pseudo-intellectual shit like that AI-slop post. Keep seething, champ.
>>128112791>getting draggedI didn't even make that post!
>>128112791>cope seethe cope seethehow fascinating, tell me more
>Keep seething, champ.
seethe
>>128109805What's so great about her?
c-can we get back to classical music pls. no more vitriol, no more hate
>>128112951that's my whore; there are many like her, but that one is mine
>>128112982Fair. I feel the same way about my sister.
>>128112996hot
>>128112954Mahlerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-q4ty0Stis
It's time (1981)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPy8QoCK_oI&list=OLAK5uy_meLBGOX9UBGW-6AvhpCRHgjMxuQ33L0Pc&index=16>Gould’s digital 1981 version is equally fascinating and, like his 1955 mono recording, belongs in any record collection. The approach is different from the earlier version, marked by an almost ideological consistency of rhythm from the first note to the last. This results in a highly uniform listening experience, though it again introduces some peculiar tempo choices. Gould does choose to repeat certain variations when he feels he has something new to express the second time. His interpretation of Bach remains enigmatic—for better or worse—and his characteristic vocalizations can be distracting during the performance. Gould recorded the piece over a short period and spent several months editing it in the studio. The final result is captivating, continuing to spark controversy and demanding to be heard.
>>128113024Always a good night for Mahler's 6th :)
>>128113138>mmmMMHWAAAMWWWMMMhhhhhhrrreeeeeeeesuch genius
>>128113138It's strange seeing a GV last only 51 minutes. I'm so used to modern recordings where it's at minimum ~70 minutes up to about 80. Makes me wonder why the shift. Was it the LP, the recording medium? idk
>>128113177Maybe the engineers jus wanted to get it over with as quickly as possible. I know I gould. I mean would.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEtVpaCBBjQ&list=RDnEtVpaCBBjQ&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPGF4HCKWg&list=RD7FPGF4HCKWg&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ9dXLmRlpo&list=RDOZ9dXLmRlpo&start_radio=1
more of Gould's Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb_zaAbxQHM&list=OLAK5uy_mPbty31654xLaVxCzaRaww9AWX_1QfcUk&index=78
>>128113490We're good
>>128113566I haven't been able to find a recording of Bach's Six Keyboard Partitas I've found fully satisfying, so I'm desperate enough to finally try Gould's, which Jed Distler has as one of his reference recordings next to Hewitt's and possibly Craig Sheppard's. You got a different favorite? I'm all ears.
>>128113448Love it.
>>128106512>>128106545>PraeambulumO_O
>>128106545Based, Music was a mistake after 1750, but Debussy fixed it1190-17501874-1945All day every day my fellow melanin acquaintance
>Vorspiel
>>128113845huh, didn't realize that's what that meant until now
>>128113857huh, didn't realise it was possible not to know
I like Mahler's symphonies because it's like you get a free tone poem with each movement
>>128114015That's that sense of scale. What would be the best moment in most symphonies, Mahler has several in each of his.
>>128114015That's the worst part of him, it goes 10-20 minutes longer than it should
>>128112951She's a Mozartian.
>>128114038Yeah, that's what sets them apart from other glorious and massive symphonies like Bruckner's: His (Bruckner's) are huge, to be sure, but proportional and rounded up to the tried-and-true romantic symphonic formula. Mahler's are just four to six nice little tone poems. It's like having made a career out of producing one Ma Vlast after another.>>128114051Just curious, how old are you?
>>128114052no she's salierian, dumbass, have you even read pushkin, GOD
>>128114051oh no more good music oh nooooo
popped 2 benadryl, put on bruckner's 8th, and ideally i'll be asleep sometime before the end. g'night
>>128114061>It's like having made a career out of producing one Ma Vlast after another.No wonder I love both.
>>128114286try 2 or 3 more. And vodka, just in case
>>128114299Turns out sprawling, large-as-life, brobdingnagian tonal landscaping and narrative (even or perhaps particularly when not programatic) music is good music, what can I say
popped 2 20mg Oxycodones drank half a bottle of scotch, just put on Scriabin's Le Poème de l'extase, i'll update if i survive.
>>128114356>brobdingnagiano_o>>128114386hope you have some kind of tolerance, in which case enjoy. if not... good luck :S
Chœur de gnomes et de sylphes
People act like the first half of Bruckner's 8th is equivalent to the second half of his 7th in quality. It's not. Sure, the second half of the 8th might be a 10/10, but the first half is still like a 9. The 7th, however, has a first half 10/10 and a second half like 6-7/10. They aren't really comparable.
>>128114397hey man Gulliver's Travels is literally one of the most widely read books of all time
>>128114427They do? Seems suspiciously specific
October is here. Any pieces of classical music that make you think of spiders?
>>128114483same answer as last year: any tarantellahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKuSzAaz4M4
Any pieces of classical music that make you think of Scorpions?
>>128114566Something Orientalist. Franck Les Djinns.
>>128114483https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiTek_adqkc&list=RDMiTek_adqkc&start_radio=1
>>128114566strangely enoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVpl-RNzdE4>>128114578>Something Orientalistso likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95TVQkyR0zk
what pieces of classical music make you think of Tortoises?
>>128114598https://youtu.be/uaBVBop-10U
>>128114598so statelyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HYwowlc9tk
>>128114598i was about to post Bruckner, in fact, he kind of looks like one too.
Any pieces of classical music that make you think of opossums?
>>128114680Something by Ives maybe.
>>128114680https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa4NAhX5wqU>>128114687are you suggesting opposums are ugly or unpleasant
>>128114699No, I like Ives and he feels like he has scrappy opossum energy.
>>128114707I feel like he has big old poisoned dog looking for his master so as to not die alone energy
>>128114427The first half of 7th is the best thing I've listened to from Bruckner, so I don't know.I still struggle getting into 4,8, and the rest.
Just so we're clear:Symphonies, Rêverie, Sonatas & Vers La Flamme: AshkenazyPiano Concerto: Postnikova+RozhdestvenskyOp 54: Urban Agnas+Leif Segerstam Op 60: Argerich+AbbadoSymphonic Allegro: Moscow Philharmonic+Golovschin2 Piano Fantaisie: Ponti+LeonardiScherzo & Andante for string orchestra: Hamburg Strings+Preyss-BatoEverything else piano solo: Dmitri Alexeev
what about this thing?
>>128114744Sweetie you forgot the Lettberg again. It's time to get back to the disciplinary chamber.
>>128114734>The first half of 7th is the best thing I've listened to from Bruckner, so I don't know.It's the best music anyone's heard from anyone.And don't worry, you'll get there, took me a while too before I even understood what the hell was going on in the pieces, much less starting to enjoy it. For a while I thought it was just loud, aimless waves.
now playingstart of Prokofiev: Piano Concerto No. 2 in G Minor, Op. 16https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O_IpK-Zksc&list=OLAK5uy_krP3X6qbTl_JXIl6BSXDKw-BOHgOkWzj0&index=2start of Prokofiev: Piano Concerto No. 3 in C Major, Op. 26https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d382sqRttt4&list=OLAK5uy_krP3X6qbTl_JXIl6BSXDKw-BOHgOkWzj0&index=6start of Prokofiev: Piano Sonata No. 7 in B-Flat Major, Op. 83https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxnlH7Y8Nr0&list=OLAK5uy_krP3X6qbTl_JXIl6BSXDKw-BOHgOkWzj0&index=8https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_krP3X6qbTl_JXIl6BSXDKw-BOHgOkWzj0>Proclaimed "a phenomenon" by the Los Angeles Times and "one of the best pianists of his generation" by the Philadelphia Inquirer, Stewart Goodyear has carved out a formidable international reputation as both concert pianist and composer, with an impressive catalogue of recorded repertoire to dateI even saw the lights on the Goodyear blimp,And it read "Prokofiev's a pimp!"
>>128114745I would like to touch it
>>128114745https://youtu.be/ci8uNw-LzSE
>>128114745what breed of cat is that?
>>128114745
>>128114839Low sodium diet kind
favorite recording of Rach's Isle Of The Dead?
>>128114859Ashkenazy
>>128114859Ashkenazy or pic
>>128114859Reiner/CSO
>>128111907>anyone with a reasonably capable brain could put in the same amount of effort as mahler and get similar quality resultsanyone with a reasonably capable brain could put in the same amount of effort as Bach and get similar quality results-J.S. Bach himselfThis doesn't dispute the fact that Mahler indeed put much needed effort, and achieved something great. One could argue, the effort and motivation put into learning *is* the genius, or at least the part of it. There is actually evidence supporting this, intelligent people are more likely to have intellectual pursuit, not all of them, since personality traits and the environment we grow up and live in also factor in, but there is a tendency. So no, very few people are capable of achieving what Mahler, or any other composer for that matter, achieved. Even if they do on paper, in practice is what actually matters.>it's just that these things have been historically gatekept so that you would have to come from a rich family or impress someone like mozart at an audition but some poor kid from the other side of the world wouldn't have a chanceThis is only partially true. Not everybody could impress Cortot, but those who did became his students. To claim that anyone *can put as much effort and time* is already a huge leap, to claim anyone can impress the masters is a blatant lie. Also, as shocking and deeply unethical as it might sound, intelligence is overwhemingly genetic, and people born in rich families are more likely to be intelligent, and more likely to reach their phenotypic maximum of intelligence due to the environment. So this argument is not a 'gotcha' you thought it was. Unless you're being dogmatic narcissist and reject reality, and prefer to live in your own post-modernist bubble where truth does not matter.>>128112711>struggling to land a single coherent point epitomizes midwit drivel.Funny, your post sounds more like midwit drivel than his. Schizophrenic too.
>>128114875>Funny, your post sounds more like midwit drivel than his. Schizophrenic too.nta but don't you think he has a point about the reddshit link? kind of embarrassing.
>>128114890The Picaso parallel was a total disaster so I didn't even click the link, so I'm not going to comment on that.
>>128114744>no Sofronitsky>no Richter>not even HorowitzYour opinion is worthless.
>>128115138Most of that list is completely arbitrary and/or terribly misinformed. He has no idea what's he talking about.
Where does this boards focus on Scriabin come from? Most classical musicians I know don’t really give a shit about him.
>>128115188>Most classical musicians I know are normiesNow tell us something new
>>128115188Scriabi's Diner
>>128106260you summoned me?
>>128115851sharps and flats in the same chord? this freak needs to be locked up!
>>128115866I'm not locked in here with you. you're locked in here with me.
>>128115188go back, normgroid.
>>128115151Agreed.
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJSvA8oP7rw
>>128115188Most classical musicians are retarded robots with no personality of their own who just play whatever gets shoved down their throats in schools. Scriabin is one of those composers who has a small but dedicated and passionate fanbase, but it usually pops up on the internet. I've never seen anyone give a shit about guys like Zelenka or Telemann either, but they're great composers too.
>>128115937>I've never seen anyone give a shit about guys like Zelenka or Telemann eitherIn real life* obviously
>>128115953I mentioned my interest in Reger to a composition teacher and it was as if I had done the secret masonic handshake.
>>128115188>>128115937>>128115979I studied music at college and literally nobody gave a shit about Scriabin apart from two teachers. With the first, it was the only time in three years that we listened to a piece in its entirety (Poem of Ecstasy), which is odd. The other showed us Prometheus: Poem of Fire and White Mass Sonata and called the latter "a really fine piece of music."But both were really into modern, contemporary, avant-garde, performative arts junk. I think Scriabin was one of those composers who was a bridge to that kind of stuff for them eventually, so they cherish him now and show his music to classes to slowly get people interested in contemporary music. I don't think it works, people are either interested in tonal music or contemporary junk before they get there.Meanwhile at the academy and conservatory, people were playing Chopin and jazz.
>>128116047>White Mass Sonata and called the latter "a really fine piece of music."Based. 7th sonata is a masterpiece.And I'm not too much into modern, let alone contemporary music. Apart from post-romantic Schoenberg, Bartok and composers alike, I have no interest in modernism (serial composers specifically). Early Scriabin is something any Chopin, Rachmaninoff or Prokofiev connoisseur will enjoy, e.g. Fantasy in B minor, the famous etude op.8 no.12 or 4th sonata is pure late romantic brilliance. People love these pieces and they are a part of standard repertoire. Hell, even Horowitz performed them often, what are you smoking. His late works require a certain mindset to enjoy, but they are remarkably good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ClDFmFmr0k
>>128116494Yeah, for me Scriabin did something that only the greatest composers achieved: started off in, and mastered, a recognizable style and then gradually developed a completely distinctive and personal musical language. That alone already makes him first class.In his early period he wrote Chopinesque, conventionally attractive and beautiful Romantic music that sometimes sounds almost Impressionist, in his middle period the influences of Wagner and Liszt start taking over, and by the end he's doing his own concentrated thing.He went through one of the most unique evolutions in music history, and his catalogue is stylistically more varied than that of most composers. Schoenberg is similar in this regard, but his was way more deconstructive. Scriabin always kept an expressive impulse which is why I believe even his most radical works are Romantic at heart.
>>128116744that applies to all composers i.e. you start off learning how to emulate various styles before finding your own voice.
What is your favorite recording of die zauberflote?
>>128116870https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tvYSDDHoks
>>128114386I fell asleep like two minutes after the 8th ended, it was glorious
>>128116990whoops, meant to quote >>128114286hope you're alright anon >>128114386
>>128114286>>128114386>>128116990thank you med sisters
note to self: you do NOT have to start the Well-Tempered Clavier from the beginning every time you want to listen it -- instead, try picking a spot in the middle, listen to a handful, go listen to something else, then return later. Better way to enjoy it, and Bach would have approved
>>128117115Obviously, WTC is just compilation of works, not one single work. I do this with goldberg variations too, even though it's one single work.
>>128117206>I do this with goldberg variations too, even though it's one single work.That one is trickier because the argument can be made (for the autist inside all of us) that you need to hear the base theme aka opening aria before hearing the variations, but yeah, it's a long enough work where starting from anywhere should be fine. I should do that more often with that one too. The amount of times I tapped out and never even got to hear the 25th variation on a recording because I started from the beginning and tapped out too soon...
This may just be a fleeting thought, and I may end up regretting it and changing my mind later, but sometimes, and this is one of those times, I feel like the classical pieces in all of the repertoire which resonate with me most are...Prokofiev's piano sonatas.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGRWUiO37s4They capture the emotional complexity, almost schizophrenia of our age very well.
>>128116870https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_4PwM63RY0&list=OLAK5uy_nvUKg96lPuhgLOFsk_6L2J5gPEHRPvmrE&index=2
>>128117259Sometimes I feel that while listening to his 3rd concerto, especially that last movement, and all other movements. And sometimes 2nd concerto, the cadenza is imho greatest ever composed. I'm not as familiar with 8th sonata as others (especially 6,7). Listening now.
>>128117347His 8th is his apex in the form, imo
>>128117347If you're in the mood, you should sample >>128114792, it's pretty great, I've always liked Litton's Prokofiev, and Goodyear is Goodyear
>>128117387Alrighty thanks
>>128117387>>128117422Apparently I've already listened to 2nd already. Just relistened to the 1st movement, and I didn't really like it. Piano seems too mechanical, lacks rubato, sometimes it's rushed, and orchestra isn't really doing what it should be doing, instruments aren't well balanced and cadenza is pretty weak.
>>128117591Ah fair enough. Thanks for giving it a try, that's all I can ask!
>>128116870Klemperer and Böhm (DG)
>>128114792at the end of the review of this recording on theclassicalsource, these are their reference recordings:>Recommended Comparisons>Piano Concerto No. 2: Wang | Trifonov | Rana | Ashkenazy>Piano Concerto No. 3: Argerich | Ashkenazy | Lang Lang | Bavouzet>Piano Sonata No. 7: Osborne | Bronfman | Ashkenazy | MelnikovI've heard a couple but gonna have to check them all out too
>>128111907My dad was once dehydrated where he he couldn't take on water properly or something, and he started seeing a giant lobster watching him when he was in bed. But whenever anyone came in the room it would scuttle away-just out of sight, but he could see it's little lobster facing peering out at him from the cupboard.
Random question but is there any Mozart piano sonata cycle that isn't a fortepiano recording that doesn't have such piercing high ends and is a bit more balanced? That is always a big issue whenever I try to listen to a set on a modern concert grand., the top end feels really
now playingstart of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 30 in E Major, Op. 109https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8MJpwfBjkg&list=OLAK5uy_m5Trrh9m8D2Q4_bHulZiHgvT3q90rqDnY&index=2start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 31 in A-Flat Major, Op. 110https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlEOE07m9HY&list=OLAK5uy_m5Trrh9m8D2Q4_bHulZiHgvT3q90rqDnY&index=5start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 32 in C Minor, Op. 111https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hwGJv49jGw&list=OLAK5uy_m5Trrh9m8D2Q4_bHulZiHgvT3q90rqDnY&index=7https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m5Trrh9m8D2Q4_bHulZiHgvT3q90rqDnYI've had nothing but positive experiences with Tharaud's recordings, and I've no doubt this will live up to his usual stellar quality.
>>128117773>the top end feels reallyforgot to delete that part of the post.
>>128115230>>128115905>classical musicians are normiesI spent every day of my childhood practicing and studying classical. Summers belonged to music, not myself or friends. High school was online to create more time to focus on classical. At 8 I performed at my father’s funeral and dedicated “performances” in the practice room to him for years afterwards. The stimulants I was given to help me focus made me anti-social and malnourished. Every decision made up to the age of 25 centered music and in doing so disregarded me as a person. I wasn’t even close to being the weird kid at conservatory. Anyone who thinks classical musicians are normies are so far removed from reality that their opinions aren’t worth anything.>>128115937The first sentence here is a sweeping generalization but mostly correct, and it’s easy to see why given the singularly focused childhoods classical musicians tend to have.
>>128117115Note: The Preludes are only suggestions. You can actually play whatever you like there. Only the Fugues are fixed
>>128114386Rest In Power
>>128117773Which modern cycles have you tried? Perhaps Uchida, Fazil Say, Mao Fujita, Yeol Eum Son, Arrau, Barenboim, or Schiff? And then Hewitt has been coming out with recordings of them recently too. Some samples, all the first movement of No. 15, K.533/494 for easy comparison:Schiffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMyfqfKkcFw&list=OLAK5uy_mMwj-mwDF3WgLxIJ7WvA7yA60XhBGlkoE&index=22Uchidahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbvfAFfDCrw&list=OLAK5uy_ln2j7plQceUCXcofGImI2Wff9XZCSL4eo&index=53Fazil Sayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3IbO73dUkQ&list=OLAK5uy_mcFA6ifiqdlOhtt3tOGVHSMVEvXHcdnbA&index=25Arrauhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBblckTicV8&list=OLAK5uy_nokUNYWdl0OmE9EQMRkR340NZbnpSZzTo&index=4Yeol Eum Sonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saX2RINVkT8&list=OLAK5uy_nIkSkWpO08_eS6Kr9u3-N_fui45zcKdFc&index=43Mao Fujitahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xezDgZotJk&list=OLAK5uy_liXCjCLHSdV8I0DjABBn4oPWHfno_uG5o&index=43Hewitthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq_Qmgw1IaI&list=OLAK5uy_m27j5lZUQm8mWQYygEa34KSCIscCrlPDQ&index=5Barenboimhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_vyWF9cgjc&list=OLAK5uy_l8u_h_B3vKloqFpGcnYdn_Q8b1dFjYIs0&index=44Damn, this actually took some time and effort lol. Hopefully it ends up helping you. At least one of these -- and surely more -- ends up suiting your needs. I love a couple of them myself but don't wanna color your expectations any which way so give them a sample. Enjoy!
>>128114792Ernst Stavro Blofeld Plays Prokofiev
>>128117857>Newly signed on with naïve, the Korean pianist Yeol Eum Son immerses herself in the limitless whimsical imagination of Mozart's sonatas, and with this complete collection takes us on a voyage in a land of contrasts. Yeol Eum Son has always been drawn to Mozart's style, in her heart and in her fingers, and maintains a special relationship with his music. She likes to translate from this language, which she considers her mother tongue, the incredible ability to express different worlds, atmospheres and feeling. "His music," she says, "speaks of both sunshine and eternal night, extremes of heat and cold, elegance and farce, Lolita and Madonna.";o"Lolita and Madonna", huh? I don't know about that for Mozart, but I sure like the sound of that and this quote.
>>128115851I actually meant Scriabin, kid
>>128117857>>128117773o wait, fug, there's one more fantastic cycle I forgot to include -- hard as that may be to believe -- sorryWürtz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf2DYGpel8g&list=OLAK5uy_k5h62bJQALghvO_52ZJPAhX7tG6Cta6qg&index=43and now I feel like listening to Mozart too.
>>128117857I've never gotten into different recordings of Mozart because unless they are bad, they all sound pretty much the same.
Which set?>>128117927I can understand that. The differences certainly aren't as dramatic as, say, separate performances of the same Bach or Beethoven piece.
>>128117959Perahia is pretty good.
wtf I never knew Mozart's Piano Concerto No. 21 had a name
>>128117974That's the one I was eyeing, thanks. I'll give it a try. I looked up Jed Distler's reference cycles for the piano concertos, and he has Perahia, Schiff, and Buchbinder, so I added the Perahia and Buchbinder ones. Should be good!
>>128117975I did it: It's called Mozart's Piano Concerto No 21
>>128117990oh u~
Who is the Kraken Spiced Rum of Klassical?
>>128117857Thanks, how the heck did you know that I was intending to listen to sonata no. 15 though O_o>>128117927Definitely depends on the performer. >>128117975It's not something Mozart named it. I believe it was just famously used in a movie that went by that name from the 60s.
>>128118016Zemlinsky's Die Seejungfrau (The Mermaid)
>>128118027Mozart's Piano Concerto No 21 starring Gary Oldman and Colin Farrell
>>128118027>Thanks, how the heck did you know that I was intending to listen to sonata no. 15 though O_oYou're welcome, happy to help, lemme know if one or more of those satisfies you.And Maho told me. Nah, I wanted to pick one of the later, more substantive sonatas, with an opening movement consisting of a longer runtime for better comparison, that's all, got lucky :p
>>128117959i like Ashkenazy's cycle
>>128117959For me, it's this one.
>>128118064ty>>128118091ooo I saw Brendel's name mentioned in some reviews for the piano concertos but didn't look it up. Thanks, added.
I only listen to music made before 1750
I only listen to music made in Scriabi's Diner
>>128116805This applies to *great* composers, not just composers, and even then, not necessarily. In any case, the keyword in my post was "mastered." He didn't just emulate; he was already a great Romantic composer almost from the start, and then built an entirely new idiom out of it. Most composers either stay within one language or never reach that level of mastery of the predominant style they began with in the first place.
>>128118206Not a fan of late Telemann? Or do you believe in the whole "le Baroque died with le Bach's death" meme?
>>128118206I only listen to music between 1750 and 1950.
I only listen to music made after 1960. Can't stand the hiss.
After Bach and before Ives
>>128116870>>128117773>>128118027maho more like my whore
>>128118830>from Bach to IvesBasically, everything relevant.
>>128118886Not counting Bach though cause he's boring
There are 4 types of classical listeners:>1. listens to only baroque>thinks cultural decline is a linear trend>2. listens to only 20th and 21st century>thinks cultural flourishing is a linear trendBoth are products of flawed, inaccurate linear thinking. Ones that only a midwit would espouse. Just enough IQ to notice a linear pattern, not enough to understand more nuanced models.>3. knows the best music is inbetweenActual high IQ. >4. only likes music outside the middle periodActual low IQ/troll/doesn't exist.Since the low IQ now have popular music at their disposal, this last type is quite rare. The midwit types still persist to some degree.
>>128118985no one read your post
>>1281189855. presumably stoned shitposting-listeners who respond with the first lazy joke that pops into their immature mind to every other post and most likely don't even listen to classical themselves Brain damaged
>>128118985Don't forget the Medieval/Renaissance listeners.
>>128119056That goes into the first category, "only baroque" listeners implies baroque and before.
How can any of you find the WTC relaxing? Fugues are so demanding on the ears and the brain. A Zillion of them in sequence is very tiring.
>>128119135were just that cool
who's the earliest and the most modern composer you listen to regularly?my earliest is Josquin and most modern is Tavener (not to be confused with Taverner the renaissance composer)
>>128119135Fugues are just a contrapuntal ritornello, its not that deep
>>128119135I don't think anyone finds them relaxing, they are indeed demanding if you're actually listening and not just fucking around with music in the background.
>>128119135https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quoW0Dx3kPMrelaxing enough
>>128119166>earliestBach>most modernShostakovichBut I listen to them semi-regularly.
>>128119135>>128119178Finding the right recording which plays them in a relaxing way.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBBFDCsKp_c&list=OLAK5uy_mM1mDXcqi8EdFKtgA-gPsOFQNGuPlh9Ds&index=28
>>128119166Monteverdi, and really any great madrigal composer; I'm a sucker for madrigalsAs for most "modern", I'll confess to like some of the Darmstadt fellows and some semi-related figures like that, but I can't bring myself to consider them "composers" in the usual sense of the word. I think of them more as pop musicians if I'm being honest. I'll say, then, as far as proper composers the most contempo I'll go is probably Messiaen.
>>128115138>>128115151>>128115924
>>128119167>r/I am very smart so I don't find them complex>>128119178>You need to hecking actively listen!>>128119222>You just need to listen to 900 different recordings
>>128119266You got me.
>>128119135>Fugues are so demanding on the ears and the brain.I feel that way about most music.
>>128119315>>You need to hecking actively listen!Well, yeah. Otherwise you're no different from pop music cattle. If you don't actively engage with fugues and follow subjects and their development, you're just listening to background noise.
>>128119180On the organ it's even more demanding.>>128119222This performance is great, not relaxing, but engaging.
terrible fugal noises.
>>128119372>music is meant to be a struggle that takes 110% of your conscious mind at all timesThe idea is a contemporary one and no one in history has conceived of music in this way. Ironically, it's an idea fostered and promoted by the weak minded.
All I have is Weill and Eisler. Most often listen to the Dagmar Krause versions. what else can I add to that?
>>128119540cyanide
>>128119538>paying attention to the works you listen to is somehow being weak minded
>>128119551what do you mean by that
You know what isn't relaxing? Beethoven's piano sonatas.
Is vinyl a meme? Should I get a vinyl player or is a regular surround sound system good enough?
>>128119572>I am automatically right and correct if I reduce your statement to a distorted, dumbed down caricature
>>128119585>Is vinyl a meme?No, it's a type of polymer
>>128119587That's what you did when you quoted >>128119372
>>128119538>no one in history has conceived of music in this way. Proof?>>128119587No, he has a point. It is exactly what you said. I originally claimed you should follow the subjects (the "hooks", "tunes") you misinterpreted it as something else, and now you're accusing anon of misinterpreting your misinterpretation. LOL
>>128119580No. 9 and other early ones are pretty relaxing.
Why was the Vagner meme deleted
>>128119585The only way to know for sure is to hear one yourself and compare it to digital.
>>128119616>you didthat's what who what>>128119640LOL!
>>128119675Anon has a scherzo breakdown episode
>>128119640Also I'm not accusing anyone of misinterpreting, I'm stating that they're being disingenuous. Dictionaries don't bite, check one out sometime.>Proof?Lack of recording technology to use sitting down at home having fuckall else to do is a good way to start if you're confident you can reason your way to all that implies.
>>128119690suppose I should've included this then, my bad
Brothers! Brothers and sisters!
>>128119695>I'm not accusing anyone of misinterpreting,Yes you are:>"...if I reduce your statement to a distorted, dumbed down caricature"a.k.a. you assumed he was misinterpreting your words, when he was just reiterating what you said, revealing its silly nature.Meanwhile you did the same here >>128119538 to quote:>"music is meant to be a struggle that takes 110% of your conscious mind at all times"When no one has said this. Music is not supposed to be a struggle, it should be entertaining. And in order to be entertaining, it must make sense.>Lack of recording technology to use sitting down at home having fuckall else to do is a good way to start if you're confident you can reason your way to all that implies.Lack of recording technology implies the opposite. Listeners had to fully engage with the music with zero distractions in order to understand its quality.
>>128119738>Listeners had to fully engage with the music with zero distractions in order to understand its quality.Proof?
>>128119709Yes, you lack reading comprehension apparently.
>>128119738it should be entertaining =/= you must concentrate on it with undivided attention and from an intellectual, analytical perspective otherwise you're just using it as background noise>>128119372>you're no different from pop music cattle. >don't actively engage with fugues and follow subjects and their development, you're just listening to background noise.contempo myth
>>128119743>Listeners had to fully engage with the music with zero distractions in order to understand its quality.That was an implication from a statement you made.
>>128119729I don't know you
>>128119765>it should be entertaining =/= you must concentrate on it with undivided attention and from an intellectual, analytical perspective otherwise you're just using it as background noiseAgain, a strawman. Following structure and paying attention to subjects and recognizing them is not nearly as daunting as analytical perspective, which was never even mentioned in this discussion.>contempo mythCattle cope.
>>128119772>>128119790 I see, you're just not engaged in this exchange. Understandable, really. Sad that you'd choose a world where your statement is "correct", instead of one where everyone gets to enjoy music in equally valid terms, but that's ego-stroking for ya.
Hey people! Sisters! Brothers and sisters! Come on now!
>>128119818I don't know you
>>128119816What???You don't have to take every brain fart on this website seriously. Calm your tits
>>128119839This whole debacle started because a pair of fucks have been taking music and how you're meant to experience it too seriously, and now one of those fucks has the gall to ask someone else not to take things so seriously. Consider suicide.
>>128119863Go see a psychiatrist, scherzo.
>>128119830Whether you know someone or not does not preclude them from being your brother or sister, sister
Great music distinguishes itself by the fact that the more you put in, the more you get back. If you listen with full attention, you will notice all the details, harmonic and melodic developments etc. and the music will draw you ever deeper into its soundscape. However, to be worth such dedicated listening, great music must possess a certain surface appeal; if you "merely" put it on in the background, it should be pleasing and intriguing enough that it makes you want to give it that attention.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJubJoak5Co&list=RDPJubJoak5Co&start_radio=1
>>128119894>meemster out of his depth appeals to buzzwordsthis is your brain in le heckin stressed out active listening contempo memes. I don't think I'll be engaging in this pointless exchange anymore
>>128119930Is psychiatrist a buzzword?
now playingstart of JS Bach: Unaccompanied Cello Suite No. 4 in E-Flat Major, BWV 1010https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtBetqOlH3s&list=OLAK5uy_nor5OdTQp-MWxcWyssdeLxPmEFiXg1w1g&index=20start of JS Bach: Unaccompanied Cello Suite No. 5 in C Minor, BWV 1011https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnP_JQ4zSnY&list=OLAK5uy_nor5OdTQp-MWxcWyssdeLxPmEFiXg1w1g&index=26start of JS Bach: Unaccompanied Cello Suite No. 6 in D Major, BWV 1012https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nICz7YBu3KM&list=OLAK5uy_nor5OdTQp-MWxcWyssdeLxPmEFiXg1w1g&index=31https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nor5OdTQp-MWxcWyssdeLxPmEFiXg1w1g
>>128119901I don't know you>>128119921not sure what this has to do with /classical/. maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?
>>128119947>Inspired by Bach?
>>128119908Exactly. As Dave says, composer has an obligation to make you interested in listening to their music. In order to enjoy the music at its fullest, yes you have to pay close attention to it. Alternatively you can put it in background and pay some attention to it, perhaps to get back to it later with fuller attention. Of course you can do both, and that's what the modern technology allows us to do. But without close listening, you're missing out on a whole lot of things.
>>128119921Speaking of the japanese, where's the name of that famous japanese 20th century composer? Also, is the new /classical/ exclusive to discuss european composers?>This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing
>>128119967>what's the name>20th century japanese composerFix'd.
>>128119954>The first thing you should know, if you are coming to this without knowing what it is, this is a studio recording of the J. S. Bach's Six Suites for Unaccompanied Cello. You might not know this from the strange subtitle on the cover "Inspired by Bach". In point of fact, what was "Inspired by Bach" were six short films, made by various director/choreographers, and that subtitle refers to the films, not the recording.
>>128119956>As Dave says--
>>128119967>new /classical/ exclusive to discuss european composersNew?
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>>128120032
haha you guys are so funny
>>128120030It has no Petzold.
japonism, not orientalism
>>128119950>Has no response so he just autistically repeats what he just said even though he knows it doesn't make sense, because he thinks if he just keeps repeating the same phrase and the other person stops responding-he 'wins'
>>128119967Yamato?
>>128120032I miss the times when I thought this was AI and not an actual thing the degenerate did on youtube
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>>128120109No. He wasn't an OST composer. He composed chamber music, probably concertos too.
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