>>128107583

Great. Anybody tested it?

Would like some feedback for my piece, still in the works. Thinking what drums / rythm section would fit in here.

https://voca.ro/1blr1SyfChqm

>>128107583
>https://youtu.be/Gu44gDmhAzg
Lol that intro sounds so fucking bad. What is that dude doing? Scrolled through this and literally everything I heard was about after touch lol. Omnisphere is so irrelevant now.

i need a partner to make bass music

>>128107992
If you boosted your IQ somehow you wouldn't be interested in bass music anymore and your problem would be solved. Look into this.

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>>128108073
to be fair, my IQ is a standard deviation above average (respectable imo, but nothing to truly brag about) and the majority of the music i make consequently demands an appropriate intellect to appreciate.

i need a partner for bass music, however, to balance this aspect of my music out- to dumb it down for the masses.

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>>128107583
>them neck gains
Achievable natty?

>>128108139
Yeah, nah: it's just bad and you need someone to make it better. Use this alleged IQ of yours to make it better. Better, better better better naaaaaa naaaa na

>>128109084
learn to use a colon DUNCE

>>128109128
NA NA NA NAAAAA

what type of cheatcodes do i need to type in real life to come up with hits like in kpop?
seriously man some songs are just some otherworldy shit and i can't comprehend how a human being can come up with that.

>>128111374
I love that Demon Hunters song or whatever it is. Wish I could sing like that girl...

>>128111451
seriously man the only way i can cope is being consistent and doing music every day as much as i can. if that doesn't work out, then it can only be deal with the devil.

>>128111466
Hell yeah, brother. We got this. It's all a part of the plan.

>check reference
>remember i'm shit
fuck my stupid life BROOOOOO

>>128111374
Steal 90s R&B/Pop and remove any hard edges from it

nowhere near complete but the intro's kinda there

https://vocaroo.com/1cTF8SX7fFVd

>>128111374
>seriously man some songs are just some otherworldy shit
Your musical horizons are the size of a cardboard box

>>128107992
why

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>>128113156
fun

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https://voca.ro/1kTPD8NdGaD7 (grocery store music for a visual novel)

https://voca.ro/19XqzogRHCca (desert level theme)

https://voca.ro/1oo6PAcB0b0N (main theme for a game set in a desert town)

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grimes realiti (demo) > realiti (full mix)
mixing is overrated and most people cant remake their best songs.

>>128117225
thank you for your valuable insight frog poster

>>128107583
Do I need vpn for download cracked plugins?
Do I need a vpn for rutracker?

>>128117301
yes
no
maybe
i don't know

>>128117301
Honestly IDK if those companies monitor their IP like the movie studios do. Highly doubt it, but I don't risk it, I always use a VPN, but if you are a poor retard who can't afford $5 a month then you honestly are probably fine with getting things from rutracker and audioz.

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>>128107583
yeah soooo

just trying to figure out the best case production scenario for this song:

https://vocaroo.com/1mfsZx1vNI1r

it’s the album opener so i want it to sound GOOOD

but in terms of arrangement it’s completely retarded — NO ONE listens to folk music that’s this bright and energetic, and if we mastered it like a modern song it would sound so fucking fatiguing. it already does.

to that effect i’ve been trying new production/arrangement styles just to see if we can make something that’ll work with modern mastering and modern listeners

https://vocaroo.com/1lXCkm9ec6Bt
^ this wilco/modern bright eyes style seems like an obvious choice. fatter snare, jazzy kick, sm7b vocal to flatten out the harshness of the belting (at least compared to a condenser), heaps of space for a pedal steel lead… this will work well with a modern master, not too fatiguing.
my only gripe is, it’s kinda generic-sounding? like even if we track real drums for it, it’s just gonna be modern alt-country at the end of the day

https://vocaroo.com/1oRXSenCU2jj
^ this kinda phoebe bridgers super modern folk thing is cool to me too. rubber bridge guitar, subdued instrumental, which makes space for a vocal that doesn’t have to have a ton of sparkle on top. this will not fatigue AT ALL when mastered w modern loudness, will be very pleasing on headphones. i guess i just worry that like… even if we track real drums and real rubber guitars for this style, it’ll still sound very OVERPRODUCED, especially in comparison to that rustic country thing in the first 2 versions

so idk anons, slap some sense into me

>>128118079
>NO ONE listens to folk music that’s this bright and energetic
i think you're really underestimating the audience for this type of music lol.
the bigger problem is your leveling, compression and eq are completely fucked and it's obvious you don't really know how to go about getting the type of mix you're after.
i'd honestly love this if it were done right despite it being plagiarized lmao

idk what else to say without going into pages and pages of specifics (too much work) other than you probably need help.

>>128113411
there's a lack of structure to these, even for background music, so it's coming off as gen-ai to me

was about to give up on my miku contest song, but i managed to shit out a workable base, i think. still need to add guitars, lyrics, and more instrumentation, but i think i can make it. any feedback would be appreciated!

https://voca.ro/1lv7wTbsB3cM

>>128107583
he looks like Pepe the frog but the fat version that shits on jannies

Bounce often

>>128118763
Rearranged the desert level one a bit and added an intro
https://voca.ro/11lkzvDuNmoz

https://vocaroo.com/1bsihnQP7eI1
demo

>>128107583
what can i change or add?
https://voca.ro/19zEQgu0HP2h

>>128122874
Trash

>>128107992
alright, whats our first project?

>>128123971
name 5 notes

>>128124055
do, re, mi and la... i think

>>128122874
>>128124055
nta but i listened like immediately after you posted and had a shit load of notes for you but i didn’t respond because i don’t believe you’re actually going to follow any of the advice

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>>128124106
>had a shit load of notes for you
there's only like, 12

>>128124055
do so la fa mi do re
when you sing you can do anything

>>128124122
That's a shitload
7 is the max. 12 is crazy

why is this thread so dead

>>128128521
it's ALIVE

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>>128118177
ok well i ( >>128118079 ) fucken FIGURED IT ALL OUT

i'll agree that i have no idea what i'm doing when EQing and shit but i do ALRIGHT if i work with references and if i used that animal collective record that this song apes as a reference we'd be FUCKED in terms of mastering loudly yada yada yada

I EVEN DID A FUCKEN VERSION TODAY WHERE I TRIED TO DO WHAT UR SAYIN, WITH 'GROUP LOVE - TONGUE TIED' AS A REFERNCE, SUPER ENERGETIC, SUPER LOUD -- IT JUST DIDN'T FIT MY VISION EVEN IF I MIXED IT PERFECTLY

THEN!

THEN MY FRIEND!

i listened to that fkn recent fiona apple record, and realised how we were gonna get that modern loud thing while not being fatiguing while also sounding roomy and indie and non-generic

BOOM SHAKA LAKA:
https://vocaroo.com/1d1ZeezE822u

if i fix this up with:
- real piano
- real upright bass
- retrack drums nicer
- proper mix, then..

you fucken CANNOT DENY that this will be the opener on an album that makes pitchfork BNM. so i am fucken HAPPY AS SHIT

thank you for the fucken PERSPECTIVE, because i was ruminating on your fucken comment all fucken day

i'm gonna finish this fucken record, marry fiona apple, and drift off quietly into the california sunset PEACE N LOVE RINGO STAR XX

hello /prod/
https://vocaroo.com/17o4LqG0HizK
will add vocals as soon as i have actually written and recorded them
but would like some feedback

also not a lot of wips posted
>>128112923
love the vibe, great mixing
>>128129608
don't know how to explain the vocals but they're like.. tinny, like constrained and not very natural in a sense

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I'll ask again

Hi guys,
What is the best DAW for me considering:
>I use windows
>I want to both record, monitor and mix audio, mostly both acoustic and electric instruments and vocals
>I am gonna pirate it and the plugins (very important)
>I have a little experience with FL studio but I'd rather use something more user friendly and easier to learn since this is just a hobby

I was thinking Studio One

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I asked this in the guitar thread, but anyway-
What kind of mic is pic rel?
How does that compare to say an AT2020 for recording?

>>128129983
well fl studio meets all of your criteria except not wanting to use fl studio

>>128129983
ableton

https://vocaroo.com/1fIuzcRrJuTD
im lost, need feedback on what to add and change. psytrance
>>128129754
can't really judge it without vocals, of its own it drags out a bit at the end
>>128129608
i really like your energy

>>128130681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pufq1nLrVpc
yer got some nasty voice stealing going on.

>>128131041
Am I the only one who prefers the softer transients after the first, to having all the transients equally as punchy?

>>128129608
>thank you for the fucken PERSPECTIV
np buddy i believe in you.
it sounds much better already.
i had like, a vision of what this is supposed to sound like and i imo you should entertain the idea of distortion and like, overly compressed playing with... space (like constantly swapping reverbs and effects that come and go; i can't think of a specific album but maybe somewhat like a more fucked up version of what modest mouse grew into on moon and antarctica).
of course, that's just based on what my initial impression of your first demo; i honestly don't know fiona apple or phoebe bridgers music at all so idk what you're thinking

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>>128131041
I wasn't aware of that, now im even more confused. I did shorten the notes, the amp and filter envelope, and a fixed phase. it sounds quite different, i'll experiemnt a bit more

>>128131283
that isnt really the problem. the problem is it zaps overall clarity of every element, not only the bass. and given that the bass will have a central position within psytrance it will just decrease the overall quality.
it will sound just less good.
what do you think happens when you give the sound to a pro? he looks at it from an recording to engineer perspective.
there are objective issues with voice stealing.

like it is not "i have less velocity on this note it has less transients"
it is: "this not has a random phase and will be unpredictable"
just listen to a rolling bassline for some time, you will notice it will create ghost kicks.

>>128131620
just use volume shapers everywhere :)

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>>128132070
makes sense

>>128131910
That's what I mean. The unpredictable "less good" version sounds better to me.
Sure, the perfectly phase-aligned one is easier to mix, but it also sounds too robotic and boring IMHO, which is something I think is one of the main weaknesses of electronic genres due to how common it is.
Maybe to you (and clearly to a lot of people) that's an acceptable compromise for that perfect sound, but I often do keep my basses or even kicks with random phase (with the "important" notes having proper alignment/rotation and "secondary" ones having the randomness). Having some of them be "less good" isn't necessary a bad thing (it's the norm with real instruments for example), and if something ruins the song I can always fix it manually.
But I don't make psy trance so I don't have those particular genre requirements, so yeah, for those genres I'd probably do it your way.

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>>128128521
The grief of AI sustains like a frozen synth pad with no release

>>128132379
>main weaknesses of electronic genres due to how common it is
nta but you're conflating "easier to mix" with the intention of the style.
"robotic" isn't a weakness, thats your own personal taste.

tangentially related, but in my expert opinion, people who aren't knowledgeable in music in general tend to shit on electronic music with more purported authority (ignoring the ones who do it for purist and ***other*** reasons) are just more capable of verbalizing what makes bad music of that style bad.
there are many subtleties in electronic music that go into making it good that people who don't make it can't conceptualize, but when its absent it's extremely easy to throw out "robotic, boring, soulless, monotone" etc.
if they listen to a band and the drummer/bassist aren't locked in, or somebody is fucking up a shuffle or there's a guitar string that's not intonated, people can pick up that it doesn't sound right but they can't explain why.

>>128132583
I'm not. Mine was a subjective opinion about the sound from the start, as made very clear by the phrasing of my post here >>128131283

The "easier to mix" is in response to >>128131910 talking about the technical problems it creates, which I'm arguing are addressable in mixing and not a big problem that should prevent you from having that sound, if you so choose.

>>128132668
oh okay sorry

>>128118855
solid song. needs moar subbass, i used Lowender on it to demo it.
https://vocaroo.com/1fJX95ZNzken
the flute is pretty loud, maybe level its notes manually.
the whole song feels unnecessarily loud but that's just me.

>>128132677
Don't be. I think I didn't explain myself very clearly here >>128132379 so that's on me lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkWXA1R4rUI
Somewhere on this planet there's one /prod/ucer making pristine vibes for the national railroad company and no one even knows who they are

https://voca.ro/14vY4DL2d2ZC

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https://vocaroo.com/1jvUrc8EeyOa

is this a good enough idea to suggest to my band?
recorded on a blue snowball which is why it sounds so good

/prod/ thoughts on Reaper?

>>128134306
>poorfags
>sub category of people who want to be different but aren't making electronic music so don't want a tracker
>people who will just use whatever and don't plan on ever getting serious about music

There are obviously useful things about it, but in the back of my mind, I don't take anybody who goes out of their way to use it (as their only DAW) seriously.

>>128134338
You are talking about people who use it. I want serious reasons it isn't worth.

>>128132755
thanks for pointing out the bass/mixing issues. i'm mostly monitoring with open back headphones and forget they suck on low end. you're not wrong with the loudness thing but i'm intentionally compressing and limiting the shit out of it since i'm going for a more consistent dancy 909 feel.

>>128118855
unmash you mix. everything is too compressed and too close to the same volume

>>128134414
explain why you would use it rather than use what every other person in your genre uses, and why that’s worth not being able to talk to them about specific things and potentially get their help with it.

>>128134306
I don't really use it, but reascripts look very interesting and possibly worth getting into if they do things that I can't easily/realistically do with Ableton/M4L, but I would only use it to make samples that I would then bring into Ableton and continue making music there.

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i see... ,,,,,,,

https://vocaroo.com/159ZGEwc7pT4

>>128134306
I think Reaper is great if you are playing instruments/ mainly like guitars/drums/bass/vocals. the 4 piece classic but although Reaper can do everything the workflow for things can be uh suboptimal compared to other DAWs but Reaper is crazy powerful but it's like the Linux of music production.

It's mostly workflow preference at this point.
For electronic/beats I've found FL studio to be the fastest for laying down an idea for me. I like the step sequencers and sorting patterns. Ableton also has seq/live loop which is superior but using cracked FL Studio in highschool poisoned my brain with it's unique(some would say bad) workflow

tlrdr: Reaper is great for instruments/mixing, DAW doesn't really matter but I like FL Studio, Ableton is also great.

I need a thot to market my music

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IM TRYING DARKWAVE IT IS NOT LOOKING GOOD
https://vocaroo.com/119rBbFgWRCJ

>>128136475
a fucking what grandpa??
lmao

>>128123956
I don't know if the intro part is worth keeping. The kind of weird chatty bit at the start. Whatever way you've recorded the way isn't great, could do with mic'ing it better and EQing it to sound a lil brighter. The other elements definitely need panned around so it's not all just in the middle.
>>128136522
I like the side chain compression going on (think I can hear that). I think you could probably do with some effects on the drums to make them sound a bit more interesting... maybe some gated reverb or overdrive? The kick is perhaps also too loud. But I like it overall, so far

Okay I have this song I'm working on. Any critiques on the mix/production/mastering/whatever would be appreciated. Thanks!
https://voca.ro/1k9KIFg77nJm

>>128131041
>voice stealing
nice euphemism for bad groove

>>128137293
meant to say whatever way you've recorded the guitar needs improved. made a typo

>>128107583

I need a vocalist who can do kinda jazzy style

https://voca.ro/1aPbjyu5niFM

>>128137958
>jazzy style
>loops the same riff the entire duration
anon I...

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how do I make it better?
https://vocaroo.com/1fSRxVkqsyX5

Finally got my drumbrute impact working with my audio interface and made this funky little beat. Not sure if it feels too much like a ringtone or if I can go somewhere with it.

https://voca.ro/1iOsT9rzZyVu

>>128137958
nah senpai
https://voca.ro/1lR5fJ8HVWX6

>>128138427
i dont like the sound of the sub. dno if there is a reverb on it. too roomy 4 me. otherwise this slaps

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>>128107583
Who needs a laptop anyway

>>128134306
Our studio has 48 channels of Avid ProTools HD and I still use reaper unless we are tracking to the 2” machine. For whatever that’s worth.

https://voca.ro/1mIS3rd1DzEA
a little ditty

>>128135833
Very cool

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https://vocaroo.com/1aA0MvRLWGtp
worked on the mix

>>128140722
https://vocaroo.com/19D5nYa4rdAb
added some to the last chorus now i think it's done

Pirated Studio One anyway, yarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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https://vocaroo.com/12UkyV5siIKA

>>128141227
i like it, that one note sub is really annoying. you could stutter it and make it more dynamic, or go nuts modulating it
>>128139529
i like it, pretty chill
>>128139001
it has potential for further corruption
>>128137293
sounds pretty good, my only opinion is to cut out some of the low end on stereo sides(side eq)
>>128136522
synth playing at 0:30 doesn't sounds as dark to me, i don't listen to darkwave.
>>128140722
subbass is clipping and hurting the dynamics of the whole track. balance it and mix everything around your kick, bass, and vocals.

>>128111374
maybe it's partly the number of contributors on modern pop songs, it's hard work as a solo producer matching up to many pros all bringing their ideas and specialties to the table for that kind of maximalist production

It's been just over a year since I started music production and everything I make still sucks

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https://vocaroo.com/1oKDBMe9TrHe

I'm trying to capture that late 2000s, house music type of vibe. Did i do it?

>>128143596
that’s normal

>>128139156
>dno if there is a reverb on it
There was. I removed it now. Thanks friend

>>128141227
i agree with the other anon, that sub bass sucks. Like panning that deep of a note is grating on the ears. But overall its a cool interp of the song, fix some of that shit and it can go hard

>>128140924
the vox is too sharp, like when you say "Dont let this corrode" the D is very present in a way it shouldnt be. To much sibilance maybe? try a de-esser

>>128139529
v chill, i dig it. Just to nitpick, i think having the drums rolled off as much as you do hurts it a little. Makes it a bit too muffled with the hats.

>>128139001
throw an 808 on it and you'd have like a weird ass danny brown style beat, in a good way :)

>>128111374
You need to suck some cocks. That's what kpop girls do, they are literally prostitutes whom VIPs can rent.

You don't think these stupid girls are talented do you? I men beyond being able to lip-sync and bounce around.

>>128111374
>some songs are just some otherworldy shit
Could you post some examples please?

>>128107583
https://voca.ro/1lm4JfRXR2zt
first time doing house

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https://vocaroo.com/13fgz0iZSH0D
im working on my track

>>128145219
fuck that is the wrong version.
https://vocaroo.com/19MtUEkuKPMO

>>128143596
4-9 more years before it stops sucking

>>128107583
can someone tell me how many string instruments are used in this song between 0:05 - 0:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfxYLORjWCg
im gonna go fuckin crazy

>>128144839
they also constantly smell like fish. something about koreans and bad smells. like how they like poop

i need a partner to
-(somebody to do all the fucking mix prep work what the fuck)

>>128146332
3-4
There's one lower voice and 2-3 upper voices

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>>128146740
im trying to recreate it and its so hard
https://vocaroo.com/1iMffTjTiir6
the moment i think i know how many strings there are i always discover something new

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>>128107583
RIP to anyone that just bought Omnisphere 2

But I have a question. Why is it that with some drum loop samples it's super easy to chop them up, but others it's like doing fucking surgery to make it sound natural? It's starting to piss me the frick off. hmmmm

>>128146800
>RIP to anyone that just bought Omnisphere 2
Why, what happened?

>>128146934
it's being discontinued due to copy right and everybody ever who used it is being sued by UMG.
everybody from kesha to carti to paul mccartney is having their music pulled off streaming it's a fuckin slaughter out here brooo

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>>128146972
Lmfao
Open source chads stay winning

>>128143630
>that late 2000s, house music type of vibe
This could be a million things, it's not specific enough.

Out of context of the time, it just sounds like amateur "babby's first FL/ableton sidechain tutorial" production

>>128147001
i'm starting to get annoyed at the lack of updates though

vital is still among my mains but we're falling behind bro nobody can say "yeah it's just as good as serum for most users" now fuckk

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>>128130681
sneedtrance
https://vocaroo.com/1cgd3c4jlwKe

>>128147027
What features are you missing?

>>128147044
well serum joined the ranks of the other power houses, so granular, multi-sampling(?) and multiple effects etc are among the most obvious things to point out
there's like a billion things that other formerly comparable synths have now.

*personally,* for the most part i would like matt tytell to ignore all that though and expand on what's already there rather than try to copy or play catchup though.
all of the wave morphing shit is obviously a strength.
if the wavetable editor and some of the deeper hidden features could be overhauled to make them more accessible for people....
fixing some ways certain parameters and effects scale so it's more in line with say, the filters (i actually have a huge issue with its inconsistent syntax, but i'm speaking more to things like is EQ).

i haven't even been using it like that much lately honestly so my memory isn't fresh but i could yap about it forever

>>128147141
>granular, multi-sampling(?) and multiple effects
Huh? Do you even know how to use vital?

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>>128147031

>>128147384
that's very cute anon, but i'm the teacher here.
go sit in the corner

>>128107583
Is mastering keyboard or theory really that important nowadays considering how many tools there are at your disposal? I use Scaler and just play whatever. Besides not being a "real" musician I don't really see the point in not using it if it makes things easier.

>>128148924
what is the point of arithmetic when calculators exist?
knowing how to spell when auto correct?
developing your vocabulary when you can use a thesaurus?

no, really. think about it. same shit.

>>128149050
Sometimes, I miss using my brain.

>>128142702
>>128143879
https://vocaroo.com/14RDsNuFZsQG
I tried to do what yall said, I made the 808 and kick a little quieter, added a deesser to every vocal track instead of just the bus. I might have just made it worse idk, i'm not good at mixing at all. just learning as i go.

>>128149050
True, but there's a balance. You wouldn't calculate a series of complex equations solely by hand, it'd take forever unless you're a genius mathematician. Sure it's good to know your times tables, or long division, but at a certain point it becomes far less efficient to not just use tools for assistance. Music shouldn't be any different.

https://voca.ro/1i2Kn3uPvehq
rock and stone type beat

100 chorus instance
https://vocaroo.com/1buiOX483xcW

>>128107583
Thread submission:

https://voca.ro/1iWfG1WAiPsB

Normally I'd finish a song in one or two sessions, but this was in 5-6 between othe projects. Came together decently, if a bit unfocused. The jam at the end should have been a new song, but I'll just keep it.

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At first I was trying to make something that sounds like it'd be cool in a soundtrack but then I thought it'd sound cool as the instrumental for a beat. What do you guys think?
https://vocaroo.com/1euvRF4tdlws

I need to get a foid so she can market my music on tiktok

>>128151675
Sora

>>128107583
https://vocaroo.com/1eQBm32Qx8ci
https://vocaroo.com/18hiIZxx0Sjc

songs you heard 15 years ago and spend half your life trying to find again, borderline lost media core

I feel so mogged when I hear stuff like this, I will NEVER be able to make anything this good
https://youtu.be/XWOozmPYOcI

>>128152742
what? i feel mogged when vangelis plays 5 synths with 2 feets and 2 hands

>>128149778
my point was supposed to be about your knowledge of the subject influencing how you go about things and your ability to push to a higher ceiling.
obviously there are situations where the tools are just convenient, but if you *need* to them for basic tasks, you’re not going to get far.

>>128151256
a bit generic but it does remind me of picrel a bit. Or ghost in the shell in those quiet moments

does anyone know the song that the vocal sample starting at 4:43 comes from? really want to sample it myself
https://youtu.be/AKBJQelxM2g

What are the best drum VSTs?

Been using Triaz but it's shit

bump

>40 posts per day
this thread is as dead as /dmp/ was three months ago

>>128160079
and it's all your fault!

>>128160122
ples no bully the chan

posts frequency barely means anything

Anyone how I could achieve this effect for vocals?
The vocals come in at 1:38
https://youtu.be/bQFU0h70q4g?si=2wzBB6MCfsvcT6rR

>>128160255
bfr he deserves it

>>128160380
just sounds like negative flanger>barberpole phaser/shephard to me

i feel like i hear very subtle pre-reverse-reverb in there as well but i might be tripping.
cool tune

when to not use tape on master track?

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>>128107583
Are there any resources on the Hyperion VST? I like being able to have a wave sequence/vector synth like the Korg Wavestation VST, but I don’t want to LARP like I’m using an old synth from the 80’s or 90’s. None of the other plugins I’ve looked at seemed to match the capabilities of the OG Wavestation VST in terms of layering and polyphony, but Hyperion doesn’t seem to have many resources out there for explaining how it works.

>>128161136
The Wavestate se looks cool, even the OG wavestate that’s a bit smaller.
https://youtu.be/uG-lZ2O5DaQ?si=i7aaiEg5qi_sVxaH
I would consider those if you don’t find what you’re looking for. Because I felt the same about the Wavestation, it’s cool but I’m not trying to make 80s sounding music

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can image line actually see if i share my fl studio license with my brother in the same house

https://voca.ro/1eAEIdR4DSDb
I don't know if I like this lead sound but I haven't been able to come up with something better fitting than this preset

>>128163194
if it's the same hardware, same IP, and same account, how would they know if it's a different butt in the seat?

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>>128163350
I meant on a different machine. Like, aside from the IP, do they check to see if it's being ran on multiple systems simultaneously or something?

>>128163473
not that I know of but it's possible. It's a common thing for people to have both a laptop and a workstation, and image line's support pages specifically mention that it is OK for a single user to install on many machines as long as it's for their own use, though I've never actually tried to run FL simultaneously on my laptop and desktop to see if it is detected.

If you are really worried about it, use a trial account. They have a support page on how to collaborate between trial and paid accounts, if that's your goal.

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the grave dig continues
probz gonna re-write a few things at some point still when the head clears up tho

https://vocaroo.com/1jk142cP1iGT

>>128163194
Give us your login and let's found out

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>>128162703
The Wavestate only has 32-note polyphony and only one layer of four patches, compared to the Wavestation’s 256-note polyphony and four layers of 8 patches.

>>128107583
Timestamp for the thumbnail? Cool controller, but I don't wanna watch the whole thing. I do however need to experience the sound he is hearing.

Also damn bros. Getting into making music and this is difficult. But I'm having a lot of fun. Tackling all digital, sampled and custom created stuff for vaporware. Any tips?

Anyone know a decent alternative to Spitfire Labs? That isn't SineFactory, DecentSampler, or Kontakt Player?

>>128166772
Searching "kontakt" on rutracker.

>>128163473
>Like, aside from the IP, do they check to see if it's being ran on multiple systems simultaneously or something?
Yes, read their terms

>>128166822
Fuck Kontakt. I don't want to use it free or pirated.

>>128163473
Do you have other plugins that need to connect to the Internet?
If you're willing to have your music production software be always offline, you should theoretically be able to activate it, then block its inbound and outbound connections in the firewall so you can basically sidestep the whole issue and be safe regardless.

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https://voca.ro/12hPWpVnExxk
I like it, but i think it seems too drawn out...
would like to hear some mixing tips

>>128167299
low end area is quiet, highs are clipping. i layered a 808 kick and lofi reese bass as a reference. this is not a rule, especially if that’s the kind of sound or aesthetic you’re going for.
https://vocaroo.com/1e4yeA9Ry7bS
>>128164236
ludo

>>128136522
I like the synth part on. It’s overall pretty neat.

https://vocaroo.com/17zFSJG4Da4v
donkey kong sample

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Is this overall quality good enough to promote online?

https://on.soundcloud.com/qHWAcnfQqHBXcit1J2

>>128168367
sorry but no dude

>>128168367
god no

>>128170805
>>128171148
Where should I start improving??

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>>128155682
I tried to add more to it.
>A bit generic
Yeah, that's what my brother told me, it sounded like every "Space song in a game"
https://vocaroo.com/1gwUQDu7uwN8

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When it comes to microphones, I have a couple of questions.
>What's a good dynamic mic to practice vocals with?
>Can I hook it up to an amp, or how does that work?
I know I can hook it up to my audio interface as well.
>Can you also do live effects with guitar pedals like reverb?

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where can i find a partner to make bass music ?

>>128172464
post an example or two

>>128172504
like those ones with the beat that go RA TA TA

>>128172523
h u h
best i can do senpachi
https://vocaroo.com/13azhFT8Woam

>>128173011
:(

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Trying to make something that isn't breakcore. Something about this sounds off but I think I like where it's going. Where did I fuck up the bass? Is it too loud, or are there too many 16th note kicks?
https://vocaroo.com/136k1k3SxZNf

oh no guys i think he's hurt :(

https://vocaroo.com/1mx32yBBuLrq

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https://vocaroo.com/1cKjg7PfbimL
>darkpop/darkwave II
i left some space

>>128173819
itai~

>>128174336
that scene from summer time rendering fucked me up bro

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audioz is down everyone run

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>>128173819
>>128174336
https://vocaroo.com/1axJM29Sdet6
>>128174576
owari da

>>128174889
thank you

>>128174928
:)

Guys this is it Logic has finally pissed me off to the point that I'm about to drop $800 on Ableton. I'll have to eat rice and beans for six months to afford this bullshit but I just cannot take Logic anymore.

>>128107583
>https://voca.ro/1ko1eEXYDPnD
Are these vocal harmonies lame and the radio voice during the bridge section? I don't want to marry and mix anything down until I get the parts good

>>128167299
Saturation my friend. EQ -> Compress -> Saturation -> Possible EQ at the end depending on what compression and saturation have done to the clip. This guy explains it well:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIZH3J1iE2E

This really helped me dial in snares in particular. Also, on the mix bus it is good to have that mild "glue" compressor and a limiter at the end. I've easily been able to get up to -9LUFS and beyond with no crazy distortion into a limiter.

>>128160380
This to me sounds like a slow phaser.

>>128129608
Let me give you some tips, since I have actually mixed a few of these gay ass folk songs (no offense, not my fav genre). Good song here, btw, but undeniably gay.
1) Your shit is muddy and low middy to my ears. Carve out anything for that bass and kick. Folk, demands clarity. Or, rather, perceived clarity.
2) Whatever that shaker bullshit in the chorus us, turn it down. It is annoying, fatiguing, and hurts my ears. Here is my BIGGEST tip for you. Record with an omni mic for instruments like that. And if that is not possible, CONVOLUTION REVERB. Put everything in a space. CR is the best thing to ever happen to the world. Make a IR of your room, or a space you like. One anon said your vox sound unnatural. That's because you're singing into a, presumably, cardiod mic.
3) Analog (or analog emulation) is your friend. Tape saturation, bussing, etc. is what you need. Your whole mix sounds sterile. Too much buildup between 180 to 300ish. Need clarity from 800 to like 2.9khz. Sweep your shit for problem areas. Or cheat and use Smart EQ or Pro-Q4 or something.
4) Smooth everything out on the mix bus. Again, analog emulation, soft glue compressor, preserve transients.
5) Big thing here, STEREO WIDENING. You can make your mixes sound louder and cleaner by proxy. Personally I find spreading between 200 and 2khz makes a HUGE difference, plus I like a warmer spread and letting the natural mix handle where I panned higher frequencies.
6) Get a nice idk... "all in one" mastering tool. I just used "Master Plan" plugin on this track. Idk, it has nice features. Always monitor levels with YouLean or something. Always have a limiter at the end make sure you're not just slamming. Your mix clocked in like -7 LUFS and mine here is like -11 LUFS. I have released stuff for clients at like -13 and that is typically acceptable. I don't do electronic stuff, so for rock, indie, whatever (to me) having clarity and some dynamics is good
>https://voca.ro/14NOmpOIjh1N

>>128177127
>https://voca.ro/1VX4s66gJgQF
My bad ^^ I had an EQ sweep on that other link. Here is what I got for you.

>>128173111
intro sounds like it's deliberately lacking mids and clarity as a gimmick and it's gonna come back at some point when the filter comes off, but it never does, the drum just comes in on top
leaves me feeling like i gotta sneeze but can't

>>128151116
Variations on a theme with Pokemon sounds

https://voca.ro/127l5JGdyUxD

>>128148924
this is a trap
the only way to get better is to
>take off your training wheels
>improvise
>repeat until good

music theory is useless. having a critical ear to guide you is far better.

i don't even know what key(s) my songs are in and i don't care

>>128178731
Can we hear something you made?

>>128178779
nah you'll just shit on it regardless of whether it's good or bad

>>128148924
You'll be locked out of certain techniques if you don't have at least basic skills in keyboard and music theory

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>>128168367
I agree with the other anons
>>128171596
The biggest one would be to improve your drums and overall sense of rhythm. My advice would be: watch drumming videos, understand what the drummer is doing. Listen to music you like and really focus on the percussion: which beats are accented? How do the bass and the drums work with each other?
Your vocals (which are pretty good btw) sound like they'd fit with a pop-punk or indie instrumental, but you've got this weird 2 beats on the kick, 2 beats on the snare thing going, and no hi hats. And the synth notes which are always on the down beat. The overall rhythm is just confusing: we want to vibe with you but it's like we can't lock in with what you're doing.
Drop the kick rolls, they sound like they're coming straight from a trap beat or something.
The sound selection here is alright, it could sound good, but again the composition and the rhythm are what's holding you back.

>>128107583
I made a Stranger Things/Blade Runner inspired loop for a video game application:
https://voca.ro/1k02A9E2YDPh
The vibe is supposed to be 80s synthy thriller
Is there anything I can improve?

>>128178844
Please give some examples of those techniques, I want to know if I'm limiting myself or not.

>>128178805
I'm not that Anon. I want an example of something made by ear and not by theory.
I'm not going to say anything about it, abd even if I did want to shit on it regardless of its actual quality, then my opinion would be worthless and you can just ignore it as the insults of a coping and seething Anon.

>>128178976
Not that anon but how about stepping outside of your scale/modulating?
Here's a quick example on the piano:
https://voca.ro/1jX3FDYysZhN
I'm starting in A minor then switching to C minor, back to A minor (or well, C major rather which is the same) to create that uplifting ending
I think you'd have more trouble making something like this if you have zero knowledge of theory.

>>128178976
>Please give some examples of those techniques
Sure
>non babby tier chord voicings (9ths, 11ths, 13ths)
>Reharmonization
>Complex key modulations
>Real-time improvisation
>Voice leading
>Counterpoint
>Orchestration/scoring
You'll also be locked out of anything that has even remotely to do with these genres:
>Jazz/Nu-Jazz
>Gospel
>soul
>Orchestral stuff
>Bossa Nova
>Bebop
>Progressive anything
>Classical or classical inspired composition
Enjoy making shitty trap and house beats because that's all you'll ever amount to if you don't have basic skills in those areas

help me guys, moving to Cali soon and can't bring my gear
I had the idea of buying either an S2400 an MPC live 3 or a Modx M while I get my studio setup/built again, I would keep producing on my M8 and Tracker (plus my laptop), would appreciate any insight

(not taking my Fantom and MPC XSE because they can't fit along with all our stuff)

day five no guitar rig 5

the night terrors are growing more frequent
it is getting harder to breathe.

>>128141227
https://vocaroo.com/1a7ukz4V1cQ0
Another one
Why is it so easy to do remixes?

>>128181653
Start stacking overdrives to keep the ghosts away

>>128172464
I'd imagine, make your own music and then try to message other bass makers and see if they like your work enough to work with you and vice versa

>>128181869
>schizoid
>every BONES album on a separate flash drive
>falls asleep listening to death grips

okay FUCK i'm plagiarizing another song today IDC IDC IDC

>>128182043
Based

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>>128182043
Conversion, software version 7.0
Looking at life through the eyes of a tire hub
Eating seeds as a pastime activity
The toxicity of our city, of our city
https://vocaroo.com/1cvDQatsj4fx
>>128182043
i do it subconsciously, i even got the key right

>>128129608
Oh shit anon this sounds fuckin crispyyyy
Listening off a phone speaker so I can only judge off of that, but everything translates pretty well on my phone speakers. Can't speak on the low end or the mids but, the mix is actually fucking solid and those harmonies really punch.

>>128107583
https://voca.ro/12QiskudP8TF
Made this track in like an hour at the end of a rehearsal session with my bassist
Ended up being more fun than a lot of shit we spend 10 times as long working on

>make 20 different varitations of a lead patch, chain, rhythm scheme
>actually making the rest of the fucking arrangement
>third meme panel

halp

>put an eq on your synth
>bell filter, boost it up to around 20db, set the Q between 3-6
>solo that frequency range and sweep in the mid range until you find a unique groove
>record it
>profit

>>128183969
yeah that's crazy anon. very creative.

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>>128184056

is there anyway to route your audio output through your phone so you can hear it on phone speakers without exporting the track each time?

>>128184707
make a twitch account and stream it to your phone

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https://voca.ro/1ciGWTy6XSKC
What kind of game would suit this kind of music?

>>128184707
I found and tested the other way around: sending sound from a phone's mic to a computer.
also found this, didn't test: audiorelay

what’s so special about omnisphere anyway
it never clicked for me

>>128184891
a puzzle game with a cold and sterile aesthetic, like portal

>>128117225
>mixing is overrated and most people cant remake their best songs.
trvth nvke. using a wide melodic range so that you aren't worried about tracks being drowned out is infinitely superior to any amount of mixing.
a proper master, on the other hand, can be the the missing piece that ties a song together.

>>128184707
maybe make a discord account for your phone and then share your screen from your pc

>>128185104
this is a decent idea actually, thanks

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>>128129983
reaper is the best daw on any platform, especially for recording and mixing. reaper may not look user friendly, but it has by far the best documentation of any DAW. it has zero instrument plugins, but since you're going to be pirating Serum anyways, just use that.
if you want to mix + master well you're going to need a way to consistently achieve exactly 80 dB. 80 dB is where the ear has the flattest frequency response. The cheapest way to achieve this is a used stereo with ADAT in from your motherboard or interface. If you have budget for nice headphones, HD660S1s are the most transparent headphones ever made.

>>128129983
fl studio is one of the easiest daws
you wont find a way to get around the massive learning curve of learning a daw

>>128129983
>>I am gonna pirate it and the plugins (very important)
ngmi with that shit attitude

>>128185628
Sup Didier

>>128185272
>HD660S1s are the most transparent headphones ever made.
too bad they stopped making them.

>>128185692
>too bad they stopped making them.
it really is, veilheiser knew they had achieved perfection and would never be able to sell another headphone if they didn't tell audiophools that 8hz is lower than 9hz.

guys i started a new song today finally it's actually so epic this is gonna be a face melter (helter skelter)

I wish I started music production earlier bros

writing a drop without everything already printed to audio makes my brain hurt tho i hate MIDI ew

trap
https://vocaroo.com/16xBlWDX7Sd3

>Just wait till black friday to get the plugins/daw you want. Just wait.

>>128188228
it’ll give you enough time to realize you don’t need it

>>128184931
Isn't Omnisphere just like a more advanced Nexus?
It's mainly 'ready to go' sounds

>>128187013
I appreciate it not being 180x maximized and limited. The beginning had an interesting come-up but afterwards it feel like things fall flat. However, perhaps this is an idea piece. The neuro growls would play a lot into what your trying.
Introduce them to some local delay -> fed into global reverb along with the main melody but more subtle. That's just my taste but wondering how it sounds.

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>>128124111
trips of truth... i kneel

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For me it's this magic box

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lofg1dhP0Gk

>>128189296
i only use glue compressor and ott

I'm over here longing for my ex I got her on my mind right now. I'm just hurting my shit I'm sad as fuck man I'm a loser man like for real.
https://vocaroo.com/1hOXYk3uvVBA

>>128189703
there are 2 types of losers in this world.
happy losers and sad losers

>>128178911
pretty sick, my only suggestion is to add some fx here and there before you introduce bass. you could duplicate some of the tracks and sidechain compress them with their original signal(-40db~ threshold, fastest attack, fiddle with the release), and then apply any of fsu effects on them

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https://vocaroo.com/1kdtSMtxhy5Y
what time signature is this? i made this randomly and would like to know. i cant tell if its just 4/4 with a rushed or missing snare.

>>128186548
I wish I sticked to usual tools for making music instead of trying to make 'better' tools of mine (and stopping to make actual music). I'd better have chopped breaks and jazz drum solos, or even better: have started drums in childhood.

Is the bass too loud?

https://voca.ro/1lRfLPJbAbIB

>>128192596
it is probably as loud as it needs to be i think as the focal point

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>mac only
putain

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>>128193316
nvm lol

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im about to use a neopolitanian chord

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>>128192745
Thanks, I was thinking of having disco strings (violins layered) and xylophone pitched two octaves down for an effect. How should I pan that for depth of field - the mix still feels pretty empty.

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Crossing from /gg/

https://voca.ro/17odP4FXbFM7

>tell me how to link that shit
Ive got a bunch of shred beds. Real good playing and my shitty production. Trying to get better without making formulaic sheeeeit

>>128193316
literal insanity lmao how can they stay in business without a win version for pro musicians to pirate

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>>128195370
In the plugin ecosystem, Windows cracks are like the fruits of a plant that get eaten by animals (broke producers), so that the seeds that survive the animal's digestive system and come out the other side (what doesn't get DMCA'd), hopefully away from the plant (in front of people who wouldn't otherwise know about the plugin), spreading it far and wide, improving the chances of survival of the species (the developer) despite all the resources lost in the creation of the fruit (the sharing of the crack).

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about to record vocals for this but im struggling to tell if its mixed like shit, esp the guitars around 1:17 and the kick/bass in the final section
https://vocaroo.com/12507svfMG0o

https://youtube.com/v/GeOU66IVfnA
Nardwuar when he's not being a CIA asset

>>128195799
KYS or stay in /dmp/ faggot

>>128195869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqgSO8_cRio

>>128139468
Agreed. Did you buy the Roger Linn OS update for your MPC?

I used to use a 2000XL but switched to a nu-MPC mostly because I needed more MIDI ports. It uses any class compliant USB interface, I currently have 9 ins and outs. Each instrument can get its own whole MIDI port with all 16 channels Some stuff I have doesn't play nice unless it has its own port. I still like my old MC-303, all 16 available parts are fixed on each of the 16 channels, you can't tell it to just respond on this or that channel. MT-32 works the same way, I have one of those but I barely use it any more since I got a U-110 which is the same thing but twice as much and better. You can send it some SYSEX to put it into an MT-32 compatible mode too.

>>128188296
shit i forgot to try delay. i duplicated the half-time synth, one with a medium decay reverb, and the other with a really long verb. flicked them to mono and hard panned each.
i think im done with this one for now.
https://vocaroo.com/16qGENcMePhJ

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>>128189296
I just use the various ones built into my Roland VS-1680EX Virtual Studio. They're punchy, yet warm.

>>128195643
the volume transition is rough: louder than it should be, and probably a bit fast.
love the track. a diverse palette of sounds which is a nightmare to mix imo
>>128192032
swing?

>>128196835
Yeah that glues much better together. Nice work.

>>128197308
u think its 4/4 just swung(i dont know what "swing?" on it own means)? im not really sure but it feels like the 1st bar ends early. its tripping me out i think cuz in the 1st bar the beat 4 snare is missing and i guess the 1st beat of the 2nd bar is missing. now im thinking the 2nd bar starts earlier then it should. i dont really know theory. i dont know what im talking about. but i want to know cuz its a step away from my traditional 2 & 4 snare drums i believe. feels different somehow

>>128197828
No I totally get what that other anon is getting at. Honestly it feels like the bpm is increasing in time. Instead of a time fraction it's like 120 becomes 125 after a while.

>>128197917
>https://vocaroo.com/1kdtSMtxhy5Y
Thinking about it now, and seeing the ableton interface, it's might be likely your project is at a determined speed. Meanwhile everything else was recorded in another speed.
It's been a while, but there should be something in the top left that determines global bpm, otherwise you might have to set each recording at a specific bpm per channel. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

>>128197917
ahk interesting thanks.

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https://voca.ro/1ccHESwym25a
everyone says the lead sucks, but I'm kinda into it. any tips on how to mix the vocals ?

>>128197955
oh my grid isnt tied to bpm its just how i work but usually when i stretch out to 2.3 the bar divisions i know is 1.4 cant remember where the snares would be but i know the beat 4 snare is missing on the 1st bar. but yea i record and dont think about bpm usually. i just drag out the bar till it loops properly

>>128198012
That shit will definitely class with the lead synth. If anything try dynamic EQ, prioritizing the vocal. Otherwize, or perhaps in the same chain recommended, introduce some very subtle dely -> reverb and I mean SUBLTE. It goes a long way

>>128198034
Alright well it things are stretched out, how can you expect things to line up?
Single shots...sure...multiple single shots of a 4/4? no chance on alignment.
I don't want to be abrasive but that's how it goes.

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>>128134306
Reaper is nice for recording, but FL will mogg it every day

Did i overdo the bass or should I add it even more in the mix?

https://vocaroo.com/18RQa7lhEVGu

>>128198193
sounds good

massive x has the greatest filters of all time

>>128199659
if only it had remap tho ts pmo so bad

>>128147510
i opened this and it fit really well with >>128143630

https://youtu.be/l-dkqmRN8Qs?si=ZRnl3I1C-ARWkxAY

anyone have any ideas on how to get the sound of this bass on a synth?

I kinda got somewhere with triangle waves and FM but it was still not very close

>>128205617
https://vocaroo.com/1frtTIcI5V8Z
i tried ( i dont know the notes )
if u like it i can give u my recipe

>>128139509
this place isn't worth your time lmao. especially the boomer doesn't believe that the tape machine brings anything worthwhile to the table, he won't even look for plugins to try to emulate the sound. many anons here think songwriting is far more important than the production even though in reality you need to have at least some decent sound to have a realistic chance of success. the people who really cracked the code could spam lots of albums with poorly written songs and become mega successful nonetheless because of the sound.

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>>128205969
I think it's closer than I got, when I used FM it had nice bass but it sounded too grunge or something. How did you get the sound?

>>128206331
sec let me try put it in a presentable way

Socrates continues, saying that the free prisoner would think that the world outside the cave was superior to the world he experienced in the cave and attempt to share this with the prisoners remaining in the cave attempting to bring them onto the journey he had just endured; "he would bless himself for the change, and pity [the other prisoners]" and would want to bring his fellow cave dwellers out of the cave and into the sunlight (516c).[2]

The returning prisoner, whose eyes have become accustomed to the sunlight, would be blind when he re-entered the cave, just as he was when he was first exposed to the sun (516e).[2] The prisoners who remained, according to the dialogue, would infer from the returning man's blindness that the journey out of the cave had harmed him and that they should not undertake a similar journey. Socrates concludes that the prisoners, if they were able, would therefore reach out and kill anyone who attempted to drag them out of the cave (517a).[2]

>>128206331
https://streamable.com/iwbxj9
aight so the buzziness of the bass reminds me of this technique i do where i just loop a kick drum super fast. then its just layered with a sub sine. forgot to play the layers combined but its pretty much the vocaroo. thats the core of it i think everything else was just tryna make it sound but like it but i couldnt get it

>>128206468
>>128206331
it can be any kick drum btw but if u want the kick drum i used let me know ill send the vocaroo

>>128206468
>>128206478
Thanks man I appreciate it, think I can do something similar in pigments

>>128206619
nws gl

bounce again, and again

unfinished track, collab with an old mate who procrastinates forever, and all that is left is for him to record vocal so it could sit on the shelf for years at this point. the lead tremolo picking part is my stand in for what i hope he will play. i didn't want to record bass and guitar either but so far all me with my first attempt at making a half ass human sounding drumbeat from samples.

https://vocaroo.com/1keUpcLqmgpw

mostly just need people with good rooms and monitors to check it for me as i am doing the classic headphone mix with jbl flip reference

>>128208630
sorry i might have been a bit confusing. so he will record verse and chorus vocals as well as hopefully overdub that tremolo line, but all i really care about here is someone with accurate system to reference mostly low end but overall frequency balance as well.

>>128198012
telephone filter on the vocal and distant reverb throw. ssl bus comp and tape plugin on master bus. also automation for more dynamicism to highlight diferent elements when you want. start with .5db moves for automation and go bigger if you want more drama. everything is jumping over eachother. also what other anon said, dynamic eq or sidechaining will do a lot of this work for you.

>>128176548
>me waiting until Black Friday

>>128179071
>>Progressive anything
you're just gatekeeping, you can sound progressive with regular chords, it's the time signatures that count

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https://vocaroo.com/18oxmPrF8tF8

>>128195643
>https://vocaroo.com/12507svfMG0o
mix is dope. track took me by surprise kek

skrillex and isoxo today :0

>Working on a song
>Hey this one is coming naturally, I really like it
>90% done
>Wow I still like it, I might actually finish a song before I'm sick of it
>100% done in just a couple days
>Immediately switch to hating it
WHY

>>128179009
ok look the real reason is i am new to these threads (not new to music) and i don't know how many schizos you have

it is a huuuuge problem in some other 4chan creative generals (looking at you /agdg/, people will impersonate you to try to get you cancelled or leave fake bad reviews over the dumbest shit), until i know i am not doing anything that could link my hot takes with my actual artist name

>>128212309
Release it anyway. Make a new version later.

testsetestststststsdtststst
https://vocaroo.com/12vMbJIiVogb

>>128212326
That's why anons only post vocaroos.
Unless there's a vocal you sang, the odds of someone finding out who you is pretty much zero. Plus, nobody in /prod/ really cares. There's fewer schizos here than there's ever been really.

>>128212762
not bad anon, i like it more on the second listen
reminds me of some of denki groove's work

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PERCOCET
>rate my shit

https://voca.ro/1nyd1k5kvycH

Bartok on guitar it can be done

https://open.spotify.com/track/4TN0QvOL8xZv6NZ0udsK74?si=t1_8tU5cTfWe4C4L0nGz1g

>>128214321
can't tell if this is a troll post or not

>>128212477
This is the new version kek. But I'm releasing it. Or at least playing it live.