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Neurotic edition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uJ3AW4gxyQ&list=OLAK5uy_nnHllF8EXNGfCgfdbqVa7Lq5_VcCGYYSY&index=1

This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.

>How do I get into classical?
This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
https://rentry.org/classicalgen

Previous: >>128120140
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Talent Isn't Rare. Intelligence Is.
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>>128133499
word salad.
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>>128133499
Both are rare.
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>>128133499
And neither is nearly as important as drive
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>intelligence and talent are less important than a mediocre action movie
okay
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgenHJUoZQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk3CXw2Q16A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAVOB4OTVoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NBataLDUgc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCi9haciGU8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM75S7S2zmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqCyJenmKIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h21Jk1rfC8c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9mYRJpyXpU
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Scriabi's Diner
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Scriabin's Piano Concerto is so good, why is it so underrated?
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>>128133716
Because it ain't good.
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>>128133746
well i like it
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>>128133753
No you don't.
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>>128133767
really? i thought i did, what do i like?
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>>128133407
Need some recs anon, on two fronts:
>general recs
I love Baroque music, especially Vivaldi (literally everything he ever did), Bach (The Art of Fugue is great), Handel (Op. 6 especially) and recently Telemann and Monteverdi. Any other hidden treasure composers I should check out or even other periods?
>opera
I like some of Bach's oratorios and I'm listening to (and loving) Monteverdi's madrigals so I didn't think opera would be that difficult to get into but it just will not click for me. Dido and Aeneas did nothing for me so I'm not sure where else to go.
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We've had list of the greatest melodists (>>128120176), now we have The 15 Greatest Symphonic Orchestrators of All Time:

Haydn
Mozart
Mendelssohn
Berlioz
Rimsky-Korsakov
Ravel
Tchaikovsky
Saint-Saëns
Dvořák
Respighi
Sibelius
R. Strauss
Stravinsky
Korngold
Mahler
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>>128133620
and Drive-In and Dive?
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>>128133775
Zelenka
Corelli
Scarlatti
Lully
Couperin
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>>128133792
https://youtu.be/1XY-dFRzLPM?si=f4SSdUUct77JD3_o
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>>128133792
>>128133809
no one cares
>>128133716
It's pretty much eclipsed by what he did afterwards, kind of like his first symphony. It's still an excellent concerto. Certainly better than any of Rachmaninoff's for exmaple
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>>128133815
i like Scriabin's later stuff too especially Op. 54 & Op. 60 and also Rachmaninov's Concertos (his Concerto No.3 is my favorite piano concerto), i always skipped Scriabin's concerto because it was an earlier work, but that was a mistake.
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>>128133815
>Certainly better than any of Rachmaninoff's for exmaple
rofl. certainly not.
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>>128133859
We've been through this and have agreed that you're entitled to your wrong opinions
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Mozart is overrated trash
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>>128133873
Certainly, we've been through this and established Rachmaninoff's concertos are the gold standard.
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>>128133901
Further proof that Mozart is underrated
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>>128133908
>>128133873
you're both wrong
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>>128133908
>Rachmaninoff's concertos are the gold standard
For tween pop music, yes, I absolutely agree
>>128133916
No, no no. Sorry.
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>>128133580
Impressively bad
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>>128133908
You are correct.
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>>128133926
imagine being so easily impressed
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>>128133775
>I love Baroque music, especially Vivaldi (literally everything he ever did)
I'll bet you haven't listened to his chamber concertos yet. My assumption is based on the fact that they're never mentioned anywhere by anyone, but they're amazing, very diverse and colorful. Check pic related if you haven't already.
>>128133806
Don't forget Rameau.
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>>128133953
>(You)
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>>128133806
>Couperin
which one
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>>128133986
Nta but both, also both Scarlattis.
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>>128133908
You are wrong.
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>>128133908
yes, this is correct
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>>128133996
>both
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>>128134032
You are wrong.
>>128134029
yes, this is correct
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>>128134089
wrong
>>128134032
correct
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Medtner - Piano Concerto No. 2
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>>128134097
wrong
>>128134107
correct
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>>128134144
>correct
yes
>wrong
You aren't not incorrect in no way, never not being not wrong
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>>128133908
Absolutely.
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>>128134217
Absolutely wrong
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Scriabin vs Rachmaninov
who would win in a boxing match?
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>>128134243
Rach has reach and probably hits harder but Scriabin is impervious to pain and also insane so my money's on him
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>>128134243
Rachmaninoff was 6'6
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>>128134264
Tall people don't have an inherent advantage in boxing. You'd know this if you weren't an effeminate shut-in
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>>128134271
Yeah and the moon is made of cheese, you'd know this if you weren't an effeminate shut-in.
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>>128134279
>the moon is made of cheese
it is?
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>>128134283
effeminate shut-in detected
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Had a dream I was playing an adaptation of Scriabin's 10th on electric guitar with the opening played with really crazy effects and really heavy white noise sounding fuzz and such and later parts were played on classical guitar
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>>128134290
i'm 4'9"
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>>128133775
Marin Marais and Sainte-Colombe. Also the Couperins
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>>128134298
I apologise and shall correct myself: Effeminate shut-in manlet detected.
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>>128134313
i'm a girl
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>>128134291
I'm sorry, anon
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>>128134324
>i'm a girl
doesn't get any more effeminate manlet than that
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>>128134324
I will make you my boywife.
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>>128134324
show bobs
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/classical/ has fallen. billions must die.
what a terrible thread.
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>>128134341
show bobs
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Billions must listen to Bach and Ives.
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>>128134341
So long as you die first, I'm in
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>>128134347
>Ives
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>>128133775
Also check the opera euridice by caccini and tarquino merula

Baroque is amazing and there are a ton of underrated composers but i insist above all on marin marais. I could also have mentioned giacomo cervetto
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>>128133792
Hmm, going name by name, makes sense I suppose.
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>>128134583
>>128134583
yeah that list IS extremely safe and milquetoast, you're right
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Anyone here like Ives' Concord Sonata?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lp-NdkWPMw

>As to the Ives, frankly, I agree with Lawrence Gilman's reaction when he heard the première by John Kirkpatrick of the 'Concord' Sonata in 1938: 'This sonata is exceptionally great music--it is, indeed, the greatest music composed by an American, and the most deeply and essentially American in impulse and implication.'
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>>128134616
>Ives
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>>128134065
I mean, there's only two relevant ones.
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>>128134660
Armand-Lous and Pierre-Louis then
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>>128134616
>the greatest music composed by an American, and the most deeply and essentially American in impulse and implication.'
ameribros I'm so sorry
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Mozart's string quintets are underrated among his compositions, especially the first one
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>>128134687
Further proof that Mozart is underrated
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>>128134687
>>128134693
>one of the most famous comosers
>underrated
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>>128134723
Further proof that Mozart is underrated
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>>128134723
he means underrated by terminally online contrarians
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>>128134723
>comosers
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>>128134734
It seems you don't know the meaning of either 'proof' or 'underrated'.
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>>128134764
Further proof that Mozart is underrated
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>>128134768
Further proof you don't understand the meaning of 'proof' and 'underrated'
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>>128134723
>>128134764
Relax, "Mozart is underrated" is both valid and a meme. Valid because most people on the internet view Mozart in a "he's good but..." aka recognizing his talent and value, but not holding the same personal love as they do for other composers. So it's become a bit of a (true) meme to say Mozart is underrated. Anyway, chill.
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>>128134792
Further proof that Mozart is underrated
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>>128134800
>aka recognizing his talent and value, but not holding the same personal love as they do for other composers.
>aka recognizing his talent and value
That is, by the very fucking definition, NOT underrated. So it is both invalid and a shit meme. kys.
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>>128134829
Further proof that Mozart is underrated
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>>128134829
I should say, recognizing some of his value in a dispassionate, half-hearted way. Like "yeah, yeah, he's one of the greats, but I don't actually listen to him, so in my heart I don't think he's that good anymore." Anyway stop taking it so seriously.
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>>128134856
>recognizing some of his value in a dispassionate, half-hearted way.
No. It is simply recognizing his value, you don't need to twist your own words now. Mozart is anything but underrated.
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>>128134906
Further proof that Mozart is underrated
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>>128134723
>>128134764
>>128134792
>>128134829
>>128134906
Can you PLEASE stop underrating Mozart? It's frankly embarrassing.
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I don't listen to mozart. There. That's the tweet. *Mic drop*
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now playing

start of Schumann: Davidsbündlertänze, Op. 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_4XjRwGGCo&list=OLAK5uy_k0ERqIkjY-hcX6nggs1Pi7ubP4RS_odUI&index=2

start of Schumann: Papillons, Op. 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAlUOtG7mQA&list=OLAK5uy_k0ERqIkjY-hcX6nggs1Pi7ubP4RS_odUI&index=20

start of Schumann: Carnaval, Op. 9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MteooJ5YM1s&list=OLAK5uy_k0ERqIkjY-hcX6nggs1Pi7ubP4RS_odUI&index=31

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k0ERqIkjY-hcX6nggs1Pi7ubP4RS_odUI

>The three works on this recording are collections of short pieces, strung together and forming a cohesive whole - a form which Schumann himself invented, developed and brought to perfection. Davidsbündlertänze (Dances of the League of David) was written after Schumann's engagement to Clara Wieck, to whom he wrote, 'If I have ever been happy at the piano, it was when I was composing these.' Papillons (Butterflies) is the work of a youthful, unfettered imagination, and Carnaval is one of his most popular pieces, a display of both technique and emotion. Boris Giltburg, who took first prize at the 2013 Queen Elisabeth Competition, is one of today's most exciting young pianists, lauded for his 'massive and engulfing technique, supporting interpretations that glow with warmth and poetic commitment' (Gramophone).
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>>128134906
underrated means "rated lower than its true value"
generally, people think Mozart is boring (even among those that listen to classical) and only respect him because they know he was influential. but in reality he is the greatest composer of all times, so yes he is literally underrated.
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>>128134955
>>128134992
>>128135047
Further proof that Mozart is underrated
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this recording, yay/nay?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgC60jPWmCk&list=OLAK5uy_lmGqDUy5LqATRhhCYhceP0H-6j6mjFGkk&index=12
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>>128135068
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>>128135073
by the power vested in Giltburg, it is so
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>>128135068
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>>128135153
damn looks legit
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Do you realize how severely underrated Mozart is? People vastly overestimate his genius by just oversimplifying how good he was, and basically implying that he was some sort of cosmic force of compositional brilliance. That obviously isn't true. But a lot of times people don't understand, or don't catch, how subtle his brilliance actually is. He did absolutely brilliant work while still operating within the tasteful restraint that characterized the classical period, and broke a shit ton of ground. Mozart seemed to be literally operating at a level beyond any composer in Turks of raw genius in composition. People vastly under rate Mozart sometimes because it's "cool" to like what is less popular. Mozart was literally head and shoulders more of a genius that Chopin, Beethoven, Haydn etc. It's almost incomprehensible that he was able to compose in the manner he did relative to what had come before him especially. He stands in a class of his own as easily the greatest musical genius of all time without it being remotely close. Mozart is underrated simply because it is impossible to conceive of a rating that would do him justice.
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>>128135153
is that fucking George Lucas
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>>128135226
ye
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>>128134326
I'm sorry too
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start of JS Bach: Partita No. 4 in D Major, BWV 828
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ny4GqkM7fM&list=OLAK5uy_k9zkiCHsoGl3LbAIJSvZp5CGUAVfEnqdU&index=14

start of JS Bach: Partita No. 3 in A Minor, BWV 827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE4aoQIOydk&list=OLAK5uy_k9zkiCHsoGl3LbAIJSvZp5CGUAVfEnqdU&index=21

start of JS Bach: Partita No. 5 in G Major, BWV 829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NlRhlEYzZk&list=OLAK5uy_k9zkiCHsoGl3LbAIJSvZp5CGUAVfEnqdU&index=27

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k9zkiCHsoGl3LbAIJSvZp5CGUAVfEnqdU

Hope one day Levit records Bach's WTC and Art of Fugue.
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>>128135262
>Diddle didlle dilled dee
>Diddle didlle dilled duh
>Diddle didlle dilled dee
>Diddle didlle dilled dah

This is suposedly the greatest music ever written
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>>128135308
hey! only the 13th, okay
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>>128135308
>>>/mu/
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>>128135312
I have to say, that list is basic and embarrassing, choices are somehow too obvious and not enough
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>>128135359
Almost any top X list in classical is gonna be 'basic' and 'too obvious' because the cream rises to the top almost without exception. If something was so great, it'd be recognized as such.
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>>128135359
Well let's see you list then
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>>128135418
Pay me
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>>128135433
why the fuck would anybody
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>>128133407
Best recording of Holst - The Planets?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP5xhyPn58U
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any string player? how do you feel about steel vs synthetic strings? beginner here and just experienced the difference after changing 2 strings (cello). the instrument sounds much better now although they haven't settled yet. it's definitely a warmer sound which i find ideal. my steel G and C sound good already so i won't change for now
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>>128135481
You demand a service you gotta be ready to pay for it, else shut up
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>>128135504
Stick with Karajan.
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>>128135523
>synthetic strings
never before in my LIFE have I EVER heard of that outside of guitars
>>128135504
Sir Adrian Boult, London Philharmonic Orchestra, Geoffrey Mitchell Choir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGX3kO-MQ2M
>>128135556
ew
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>>128135534
you are reversing the burden of proof
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>>128135504
Jurowski
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>today I will remind them
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>>128135578
No one's arguing for or against anything, and evidence has nothing to do with this. You asked me to make a list, and I asked for payment. Are you awake?
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Returning to Kempff's Beethoven, I never realized just how leisurely it was compared to others, the difference is extreme. And lovely :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK8-Zg-8JYM

This piece alone shows how much of a genius Mozart was.
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>>128135593
bach and before, nothing after
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>>128135604
Yup, love his Requiem recording with that on it.
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>Today I will remind them

BAB
A
B

>DAILY REMINDER
>DAILY REMINDER

IAA
A
A

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>average BABIAA listener

We will disarm and subdue every 18th-19th century heretic that would put on a Mozart Piano concerto or Chopin Nocturne

We are the Mockers of Mozart
We put a chokehold on classicism

We are the Cuckolders of Chopin
We are the Rapists of Romantics

We are the murderers of Mahler
We strike fear in every pretentious and neurotic writer of 1 hour symphonies
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>Listening to Bach
>not listening to Mozart
>Listening to Marais
>Not listening to Haydn
>Listening to Ravel
>not listening to Mahler
>listening to Stravinsky
>not listening to Schoenberg or Shostakovich

Is there a better feeling in this world?
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>>128135604
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>Your Romanticism
>My Foot
>Your Classicism
>My Fist

I will crush the Mozart enjoyers, and liberate the Chopin listeners with Vivaldi, Josquin, and Perotin
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>Bach
>Machaut
>Ives
>Marais
>Buxtehude
>Stravinsky
>Reich
>Bartok

No Mozart, No Brahms, No Haydn, No Mahler
No Autistic Teutonic spirit shall oppress or taint the Gallic, Latin, and Slavic soul
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Mozart gives me the ick,

As does Brahms, Mahler, early-middle Beethoven, Bruckner, Chopin, Schumann, Strauss II, Hindemith, Schoenberg, Reger, Berg, Tchaikovsky, Boulez, Stockhausen, Haydn, Bruch, Salieri, Shostakovich, Clementi, and Prokofiev

That is all
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>when they listen to Mozart and Haydn concertos and completely neglect the Sun Kings court
>When they listen to vocal works by Verdi, Rossini or Puccini, but not Palestrina or the Franco-Flemish School
>When they don't listen to Marin Marais more frequently than Beethoven or Brahms
>No Perotin or Medieval Music
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>If it ain't BAROQUE, don't fix it
>I dumped her because she BAROQUED my heart
>I had to go to the doctor because I BAROQUED my leg in a gondola accident
>I would go to the concerto with you, but I'm BAROQUE
>The Baroque BAROQUED the renaissance mold
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Remember not all Romantics are bad but all bad composers do tend be Romantic, except for Classical, all Classical composers are shit
Below is a list of acceptable Romantics:

>Field
>Chabrier
>Franck
>Tarrega
>Wagner*
>Any of the Russian 5
>Grieg
>Alkan
>Late Beethoven
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NO MOZART
NO CHOPIN
NO MAHLER
ALL ROMANTICS SCRAM!

ALL CLASSICISTS EAT SHIT AND DIE
THIS THREAD IS FOR MARIN MARAIS!

SONATA FORM SHOULD DIE
ONLY CONCERTO GROSSO FOR I!

HAYDN IS LIKE A ROTTEN WHEAT
WHAT I NEED IS A BACH CELLO SUITE


BACH AND BEFORE, IVES AND AFTER
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Further proof that Mozart is underrated
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNM7ipMAGzo&list=OLAK5uy_kgDwu1Uj4gy8N9q34LJVe44ZIp3CRh8uc&index=4
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>>128135735
He'd be better if he didn't Alberti Bass all the time
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>a little bit of Wine, Josquin, Palestrina, Corelli, Handel, Chabrier, and Poulenc to lighten a nice sunny saturday
Bro's I'm so happy right now, the French really did figure this "joie de vivre" out perfectly.
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>>128135596
you claimed the list done by experts is "basic and embarassing". This statement is undermined if your own list is itself basic and embarassing, but when asked to show it to defend your validity you refuse to do so, claiming it is a "service" (it is not). you are a retard who is too full of themselves, and you have wasted this general's time
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>>128135801
no Satie or Debussy? that's my maximum comfy
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>>128135821
Hella gymnastics. Anyway, pay me and you'll get your list.
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>>128135801
>to lighten a nice sunny saturday

Where do you live? West coast?
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>>128135829
Sad.
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>>128135839
gonna cry?
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>>128135825
Absolutely, I'm gonna play the comfy early Debussy works, and the gnossienses after Chabrier's trois valses romantiques

>>128135830
Socal, please kill me though sinceNewsom is fucking this state up so badly
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>>128135850
>this is the anon who called the list basic and embarrassing
Don't reply to me ever again. Goodbye.
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>>128135860
>Socal, please kill me though sinceNewsom is fucking this state up so badly
Can't wait to vote for him to become President :)
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>>128135892
>>128135892
>Don't reply to me ever again. Goodbye.
>>128135892
>wah wah wah
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Was Liszt a honorary german?
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>>128135825
Severac is also top tier comfy as well, you can smell the Franco-Spanish flavors in his music as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA4T8bFhqRE&list=RDWA4T8bFhqRE&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgy4XfmaSNM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3dmo27ifb8
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>>128135918
Even better: He was hungarian
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>>128135918
hung aryan
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>>128135926
I read his name as deodorant
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>>128135903
I aboslutely will as well, got to be consistent with my shitposting, and I also don't want an ugly fucker like Vance in the Oval office
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>>128135927
>>128135929
He has the german style all over his works, except, of course, the rhapsodies.
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>>128135953
No: The germans had the hungarian style all over their works.
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>>128135953
He literally helped forge what you understand as the german style, unless you mean he sounded like Beethoven in which case you're just wrong
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Mozart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U33hmlENKnc&list=OLAK5uy_nzzy964BImFEZsG4uoRGZnGsF_2tj_CK0&index=8
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now playing

start of Mozart: Piano Concerto No. 22 in E-Flat Major, K. 482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmmLXB__atw&list=OLAK5uy_lx9IdjbIIGAEvk1oO5dowyhBO5zZ6KN5c&index=65

start of Mozart: Piano Concerto No. 23 in A Major, K. 488
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPHpGCA2yh4&list=OLAK5uy_lx9IdjbIIGAEvk1oO5dowyhBO5zZ6KN5c&index=68

start of Mozart: Piano Concerto No. 24 in C Minor, K. 491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjDjb5a_QVs&list=OLAK5uy_lx9IdjbIIGAEvk1oO5dowyhBO5zZ6KN5c&index=70

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lx9IdjbIIGAEvk1oO5dowyhBO5zZ6KN5c
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>>128135988
underrated composer
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>>128135926
Lovey, thank you, will check out more from him.
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>>128135988
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>>128136009
ajajajajaj
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>>128135941
His music smells good, so the comparison is apt :)

>>128136005
Your welcome :)
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Currently listening to this. Each of the singers has the vocal range of a castrati due to some hormonal dysfunction preventing their voice from changing in puberty
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Is this the best set of Chopin's Polonaises?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoLMP6ORdjY&list=OLAK5uy_lYvPCkXq0igYAncEcInSRHX28B-V1TSfQ&index=1
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>>128136087
huh, intriguing
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>>128136151
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1iX7KUjMUU&list=OLAK5uy_lpNpq-LbywsejpNzcqnoDb5oS2YwtJhhw
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>>128135829
jewish behaviour
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>>128136087
graphic design is my passion
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>>128136162
A taste
https://youtu.be/n3TzdbJzvGo
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>>128136237
what the fuck lmao
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>>128136272
Look, I'm bored
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>>128136237
howling for the lack of gonads i guess
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>>128136237
Yiff in hell
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>>128136304
it's like I'm back in 2008
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>>128136322
take me back boys, I'm getting old
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Was Wagner demonic?

>Yet a further feature was drawn to our attention, which was not just characteristic of this final period of his life. It was not possible to keep anything hidden from him; he always knew everything. When Mrs Wagner wanted to give him a surprise of any sort, it would turn out that he had dreamt about it the previous night and told her in the morning. This ability to see through people often appeared demonic, particularly with strangers: his penetrating gaze would enable him to discern a person's foibles at a glance and it often happened that, even though he had no wish to offend a person, he nevertheless touched on the sorest points.
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>>128136507
no, he was german
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for fun, gonna go through Angela Hewitt's discography. She's primarily known for her Bach but she's actually recorded quite a diverse chunk of the repertoire; Mozart, Beethoven, Debussy, Ravel, Schumann, Liszt, Chopin, Couperin, Scarlatti, and more.

starting with her newest Mozart release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU12io01Gwo&list=OLAK5uy_m27j5lZUQm8mWQYygEa34KSCIscCrlPDQ&index=1
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>>128136507
That's kinda awesome ngl
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>>128136507
demons aren't real
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>>128136528
I enjoyed that Fauré one
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>>128136546
then how come the Bible says they are?
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>>128136583
I'll check it out, thanks.
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>>128136584
Go ask Balaam's pleading donkey, it'll tell you
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Raff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1GInEpc5o8&list=OLAK5uy_mf-1xZkG9kcC6-0zG-pFV3TAXFPNlGgf0&index=13
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daym yall niggas b listenin 2 sum lit music frfr
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>>128136720
asap rocky x bach - get lit in b minor
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>>128136528
>female pianists
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>>128136768
yes
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one last post for the night, now playing

start of Chopin: Ballade No. 1 in G minor, Op. 23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82AVZvhFo2w&list=OLAK5uy_k6W9HKWpiH7JJF8NsKygigA0yiqj4HpsU&index=2

Chopin: Barcarolle in F sharp, Op. 60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lbF0QYfRsg&list=OLAK5uy_k6W9HKWpiH7JJF8NsKygigA0yiqj4HpsU&index=6

Chopin: Fantaisie in F minor, Op. 49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2njLoVhrmtM&list=OLAK5uy_k6W9HKWpiH7JJF8NsKygigA0yiqj4HpsU&index=6

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k6W9HKWpiH7JJF8NsKygigA0yiqj4HpsU
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>>128136507
no

>Richard earnestly reproached Malwida von Meysenbug for not having her ward baptised. This was not right, he said, not everyone could fashion his religion for himself, and particularly in childhood one must have a feeling of cohesion. Nor should one be left to choose: rather it should be possible to say, You have been christened, you belong through baptism to Christ, now unite yourself once more with him through Holy Communion. Christening and Communion are indispensable, he said. No amount of knowledge can ever approach the effect of the latter. People who evade religion have a terrible shallowness, and are unable to feel anything in a religious spirit.
Cosima's Diary entry for 12 December 1873
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I fuckin' love Liszt's Harmonies poétiques et religieuses
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Schubert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY_ZQOGu9fo&list=OLAK5uy_mEOSPidmxEG-EJsW6rL0OLN9nU5PNQzhg&index=8
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>>128136768
duh, those tend to be the better ones
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man, if only S. Richter recorded the entirety of Shostakovich's 24 Preludes & Fugues, Op. 87 :(

+ having the ability to listen to his WTC and then that back2back? oh maaaan
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>>128136846
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>Hewitt’s later recording has a wonderful sense of deliberative unfolding and features a masterly use of colour in consort with keen structural and rhythmic awareness; no listener would ever regard it as other than a supreme achievement. Yet could it be that the passage of a decade has made the pianist think the approach is slightly too modest or compromising? Like Hewitt's performance of the Goldberg Variations here last March (review), this new reading of Book I of the Well-Tempered Clavier seemed more dramatic and spontaneous, with even greater extremes of tempos and rhythmic emphasis and, to some extent, a greater reaching to the celestial heavens. It seemed like a fuller and more direct statement of what the pianist really wanted to say, and an ultimate flowering of the possibilities for contrast and dramatic expression in the pieces. In lesser hands, the increased intensity and range might easily be seen as mannered and too romantic; here it was presented with such intellectual absorption and discipline that it all made perfect sense. In fact, it seemed that an already strong narrative line was further nourished. Hewitt’s secret lay in referring to extremes very consistently throughout the work, so one always had the idea that they were integral to the penetration of the deepest secrets of these 24 supreme pieces.

goddamn who writes this stuff? you could change the nouns and it could be about anything. if I were Hewitt, though, it'd sure make me happy to read, which I suppose is the point, but goddamn, writer's in love

>>128137271
who's that
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>>128137305
>who's that
yer da
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For tonight's performance of Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier, we listen to Vladimir Feltsman's set:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pcFpfauV_o&list=OLAK5uy_nitfSx11v6oM0k8_BJ6SyPjEU7p6Q7mkk&index=44

A set which occupies an interpretive and sonic middleground. Probably not a set for anyone to love, but certainly for everyone to enjoy.
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>>128137271
kek
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Damn, so few recordings of these works by Pãrt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODbqEKKJSBY
Probably because they are less popular works but even so... I'd imagine he was popular enough, a shame
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>>128137407
>I'd imagine he was popular enough
he *is* pop, yeah
>>>/mu/
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Bartok essential works?
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Scriabin's Le Poeme De L'Extase best recording?
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>>128138222
Essential? His string quartets, piano concertos, Concerto for Orchestra, and Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta. Then there's a lower tier with his violin concertos, violin sonatas, The Miraculous Mandarin, and The Wooden Prince. Some people would say his solo piano music but I'm not convinced. Oh and if you like opera, Bluebeard's Castle. Enjoy :)
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>>128138222
Kossuth
Bluebeard's Castle
Four Pieces For Orchestra Op 12
All six string quartets
The Wooden Prince
Three piano concertos
Suite Op 14
The Miraculous Mandarin
Viola concerto
Both violin concertos
Both violin sonatas
Táncszvit
Piano sonata
Szabadban
Rhapsody for violin and orchestra 1 and 2
Music For Strings, Percussion And Celesta
Sonata For Two Pianos And Percussion (also the Concerto version)
Contrasts
Concerto for Orchestra
Any collection of hungarian folk songs for orchestra
>>128138290
Urban Agnas, Royal Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra, Leif Segerstam
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>>128138290
Muti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_iRNP9iSzI

Any from any big name conductor will probably be good though, at least in my experience. Ashkenazy, Gergiev, Sinopoli. All solid. But if I had to recommend one, Muti.
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>>128138307
>Any collection of hungarian folk songs for orchestra
and/or romanian*
Also I think I should've added the Cantata Profana in there. Doesn't get nearly as much love as it deserves.



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