>Production Resources:https://dmpdoc.neocities.org/https://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6qhttps://pastebin.com/p2QUqMzj>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributorshttp://mu-sic-production.wikia.comUse Vocaroo to post WIPs.https://vocaroo.com/No self-promotion allowed (eg. sharing your Soundcloud/YouTube links).Sister thread: >>>/g/dmpPrevious: >>128216283
i need a partner to make bass music
>>128324829sorry I only make treble music
Today is the day i fix my /prod/ scheduleevery day i will work on both something new and something old instead of tunnel visioning
>>128324829And i need a partner to make drum music... what if we teamed up and made some kind of fusion of them?
>>128325015ill make the logo
I just remembered the dark days of prod, back when someone was always like you're ngmi, you should kysRemember that? And then finally we like started arguing with him, a bit of therapy I guess, and he like... Fucking left This was a few years ago, but damn it was seriously a thing that went on for years and years and years
>>128324785>4 AA'sDamn thats pretty good. My billy bass takes like 4 C batteries. I wonder what advancements they've made to it to save energy or do you just need to replace the batteries every 3 times you use it?
>>128325585see >>128323055there are orders of magnitude more subtleties that you're ignorant of, so if you think your music is good and you publish it, then don't get success for years, you'll come up with some excuse like you don't have the marketing of a big label or something, but i could listen to your song and know that it's crap so it's no surprise that you don't get success and no big label wants to sign you
remember to hop on mu makes an album >>128325266 unless your'e a piece of shit who would never actually prod
What do you think is going to come first:>new KORG Electribe>new Roland MC groovebox
>>128325585>the dark days of prodlol
What's the verdict?
repostan cause no (you)s>>128232577https://vocaroo.com/15QKm0mMK7fP
>>128325938i haven't watched enough youtube reviews to have an opinion yet, sorry.
>>128324829i've actually been posting in discord lately and there's a guy who makes *that* kind of trance (the cool kind) who has liked everything i posted but i'm kinda scared to message him he has like 100 times the listeners i do ._.
>>128325998If he's so good then how come he's got no listeners
>>128325693>digital warmth
somebody wake me up when shitpost hours are over screw you guise.
>>128325963it's okay it's also $500 so i understand
growing up and realizing you can't just make all your chords fucking huge, fully voiced, with big spread out inversions all the time or there will be no room for anything else.so sad. so very very sad...
>>128326288struggling w this currently what do
>>128326295put the 5 down an octave and stop putting the 7 up or playing open voicings ever
>>128326308sorry idk what that means js gonna distort everything and eq my tracks into their own neat little zones
https://vocaroo.com/1nXL3bQql2NW>housenot sure what subgenre of house music i made. also not sure what to do with this. thanks for any input frens
My first take at trance, and first upload to 4chanvocaroo.com/F1mrmgpUMnG2u
>>128325956Goes hard, wish the synths went crazier melody wise as the song progressed
>>128326649Wrong linkThis the right one: https://vocaroo.com/1mrmgpUMnG2u
>>128325998What discord u in
>>128326649>>128326706Goes hard. Now make it 7 minutes long.
>>128326760Thanks gWhy so long
>>128326732it’s a fairly exclusive invite only type thing.there’s a network of several that i know of and they’re run by pros to groom up and comers.obviously i can’t name it but i was introduced to the one im most active in through one that SOPHIE was part of- when she passed most people just migrated of course.
>>128326649>>128326706As the TranceAnon from /dmp/, I will listen to thisBPM is a bit high, but that's a minor complaint (now-a-days, 140+ is common for trance)That little drum combo you keep reusing does not really fit trance, try something simpler, more of a crescendo thingIt needs more pads and some whooshing noise... it needs to feel fullerOverall though, the melodies and sounds are good. I like the second half. It works well for old school-ish trance (doesn't really fit the modern trance sound, but that's fine). The overall arrangement could be shuffled up a bit though. Trance should have a gradual buildup, then a release into the breakdown, then a buildup out of the breakdown into a drop, then high energy, and then gradual cool down into the end. You have all of the elements, but with some re-ordering it would fit the template better. There should definitely be more going on after the breakdown ends, that should be one of the most energetic parts of the track.>>128326929To really release it, you need a version that a DJ can mix with preceding and succeeding tracks in their set. Right now, you have a "Radio Edit" length track, and the overall arrangement actually works decently for that (though could still use a bit of re-ordering). But for a full length mix, the buildup/release/breakdown/drop/closing should be very structured.Listen to these to hear what I'm talking about:https://youtu.be/T2kMZ0pglfE Binary Finary - "1998 (Gouryella Remix)"https://youtu.be/647jA8M4ecs Same track, but the Radio Edit
I made a funk thinghttps://vocaroo.com/1nUHSQK4ZtFV
>>128323357ok how tho?
>>128327363based effortposter
>>128327733i'm very passionate about trance
Some WIPS https://voca.ro/12FV8yGD0vCp https://voca.ro/1d4v0bRQsFPZhttps://voca.ro/1JOLziiSkEcV
https://vocaroo.com/1htwDAKywY4F
>>128327363>That little drum comboamen break?
https://vocaroo.com/15FBjor4kNntgoofy little beat I made with a volca sample 2 inspired by video game menu music
https://vocaroo.com/1dCEmJVP4481https://vocaroo.com/15dJxfb46KzBswag swag idec
>pirate a good noise gate plugin>suddenly my vocals sound 100x better
>>128330378what piece of shit daw doesn’t come with a gate lmao
>>128330524I said a good one
>>128330719skill issue you’re retarded
>>128330870>you’re retardedthat's why i need better ones so they do more of the work automatically
https://vocaroo.com/1gPe0wjvZZfFis this too much reverb? I have it ducking under the dry signal but i still feel like it's too much.
>>128327363Thanks a lot for the feedback, i just made something that i thought sounded like trance, I don't really know the intricacies and history of proper trance music, i just got into listening to stuff like Marlon Hofstadt, Benwal, KI/KI this year and I really dig it, I've heard its kind of more of an offshoot of Trance that isn't as purist as proper trance. Would love to know more about Trance so I'm less ignorant, do you have some producers I can listen to so I know what "real" trance sounds like?Also, what do you mean with a whooshing noise? Like a sweeping fx?
Frens. I had a lot to say and ask anons about their tunes but the thread is gone.. I will link them here.>>128216283 (DEAD)>>128325046 (DEAD)>>128319975 (DEAD)>>128325103 (DEAD)
>>128325998>kinda scaredDon't be lmao
Do these generals have a discord?
>>128330719how can a gate be good i dont get it
>>128331072Go listen to the "A State of Trance" compilation albums (not the "Year Mix" ones though). There's two or three CDs for each year starting in 2004. So, you can find an era you want to slot into. I recommend starting with like 2008-2012. Most of them are available on YT or other streaming services. Or, if you want a more classic 90s sound, there are plenty of mixes on YT full of 90s trance hits.
Who the fuck is the boomer that doesn't believe in analog?
>>128332682I am.I only said that sound quality/fidelity is important but not more important than songwriting/composition.He always twists everything you say to him into a strawman because he's a troll and likes to waste everybody's time.I've been ignoring him for quite a while now, but he's still mentioning me every time he posts, hoping to bait me into arguing (I'm assuming your post isn't exactly this).
>>128334006thats definately not him hes allergic to the shift jey and doesnt know about different typing stules to tell peolle apart why the fuck would he change his own
>>128334187"He" is a persona he uses for his trolling hobby. I can only assume that everything he does is a larp.
>>128334187go to the hospital, anon, you seem to be having a stroke.
Going from "working at first glance" and actually being useful / reliable has been a challenge, but now I can say most everything that is present in the app works as expected.Biggest issues I was having was getting the midi / wav exports to properly include all of the paramater automations / edits, but it's all working now.Today I'm focusing on breaking out the transcription mode into a more focused panel, and improving those features specifically. _then_ I will add song / arrangement mode.Already I get a lot of use out of this as just something to play samples with on my MIDI keyboard. I can just load up the sample bank on another tab and noodle. It's also really fun to use on a tablet / phone.Nothing special, just me validating swing, velocity, substeps and pitch changes all exported to wav properly : https://voca.ro/1aEg7PXhVwSK/blog
>search for Pianoteq like I do every couple of months>some madman actually uploaded 9 like 2 days agoChristmas just came early.
>>128332682he's truly stupid and delusional and constantly lies and lies to himself with mental gymnastics. he's had numerous meltdowns about gearfags, insisting that all you need is fl studio, citing outliers from years ago like soulja boy and skrillex (who both had professional mixing/mastering anyway, just the basic beat was made on a computer). he's also cited this cheesy ass sytrus demo song several times over the course of about a year. he's very slow to learn in general and might still be stuck on the idea that this demo song doesn't suck ass.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWDOIm24lhweven in the last thread he showed once again that he doesn't understand analog coloration: >>128293974he has awful taste in general and thinks it's impossible to tell if a song is a hit just by hearing it without cues like seeing the amount of views on a music video or knowing that the artist is famous or to distinguish between analog gear and plugins in a blind test
and he won't even look for plugin emulations of various gear such as the 1176, he has no natural curiosity and drive to seek out these things
>>128335895he's also short, bald, and stinky
i previously mentioned this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dD_3_AeOTYsee at 10:00 to 12:30 how the original roland D-50 has the ebin sound and the D-05 does notthis synapse proxima emulation of prophet-600 might fool a lot of newfags, but to me it's similarly flawed as the D-05 vs D-50https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDhufDCzWk4kiive vs tubetech CL1B, everyone they interviewed guessed correctly, this type of video pisses me off when it's like the plugin developer thinks they nailed the sound and it just falls flathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gcHA5pSRE0this is like ragebait, he claims he would pick the plugin version despite most commenters strongly preferring the analog versionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBNYuCxe4Yc
>>128334425>a strokeof genius
>>128325938I am sold for the effects that can be used as a separate vat too.I trust them they will be well coded and carefully made with the reputation of this team.
>>128331005https://vocaroo.com/1htq5XanP3wBadded trumpet soloare the vocals too loud?
>>128325938Should've been a bigger deal than it ended up being. Serum 2 was a massive improvement, Falcon 3 is a solid overhaul and Phase Plant 3 will be huge. Omnisphere 3 should feel like a big upgrade but it doesn't.With that said though, it does feel more modern than 2 and less like a plastic physical synth filled with weights to make it seem more premium. The workflow isn't too different but it's different enough for me to want to make music with it.The mutate feature is hit or miss, not as fast and rewarding as Absynth, but I've already made a ton or very usable patches with it.
>>128337726How is it for generalists or people who try different genres? I mostly do electronic and I like doing a wide variety of genres under that umbrella.
https://vocaroo.com/1AywKf41nH4Ei tried making something
>>128339962forgot to mention i played the bass, pad and synth on this.everything else was sampled
>>128331072>do you have some producers I can listen to so I know what "real" trance sounds like?euphoria-albums.co.uk
hello 4chan!https://vocaroo.com/1fz30NyuuZie
>>128341161hiya!
>>128337664>are the vocals too loud?they're well balanced , but they sound a bit out of place aesthetically(lofi sounds and hifi vocals), experiment with some subtle effects on em until they sit well with everything else
I just found out that you're not allowed to make samples and loops using Omnisphere.https://support.spectrasonics.net/manual/Omnisphere/legal/index.html500 dollars for something you don't even fully own lmao.
>>128342017>experiment with some subtle effects on em until they sit well with everything elsewhat do you suggest?
>>128342138Fuck those niggers and do it anyway. These people are the worst scum on the planet.
>>128342443you can try subtle saturation(tube,transformer, tape), narrow band eq from 100~ to 12k~,subtle optical or parallel compression, subtle plate or spring reverb
>>128342838https://vocaroo.com/1192Jyp6amPHdoes this sound better?
>>128342948i prefer this one more, nice
>>128339962Very JRPG factory/lab area feeling. Bit too low end heavy and muted, I think, especially those drums being buried like that. Maybe that's a choice, but I would argue it's overdone and it suffers a bit as a result. The bass volume is inconsistent and is a bit too present ass well. Still, I enjoyed it, just needs fine-tuning on the mix.
>>128343392Thank you for the advice. I'll give this stuff later
how to find the bpm of any track?
>>128345786https://youtu.be/dRN7yzT9x9U?si=QxCornEiOtqnyqku;-p
>play a song I made quietly>still feels like it's raping my earswhat am I doing wrong exactly
>>128348158Could be a mixing/metering issue or Master metering. I suspect dynamics though. Maybe pull back EQ spikes if you done some wild EQ shapes. Or pull back compression, its Input/output volumes. Look into limiters.I believe there are limiters which can help with dynamics and are not simply a brick wall so you won't hit red.Hows you meterings in general. Some plugins like EQs or Comps have their own meters. Check those that are reasonable and not redlining. All these perceived/real loudness and LUFS is a tricky part of making music nowadays..
>>128348231I know nothing about this shit desu. Don't even know where to begin
>>128348247Forget all of it. Find your mixer window of your DAW and play your song while looking at them. Don't listen with your ears, listen with your 'eyes'.What do those bars do? What values do they hit?Do any of them go redline to the top?Usually the separate one to the far right will be your master (all tracks together).This need no plugins, the MIX tab with the meters is part of any daw.
*generally you don't want anything to hit above 3 on top (in the middle of 6 and 0)If it's all gibberish, have a look on youtube "how to mix on 'DAW name'">>128348305
>>128348305I just put a limiter on my main track at -3db lol, I try not to listen at too high a volume but it still hurts my ears.I also sidechain, I think maybe I go too crazy with my pads and they occupy the low end too much
>>128348358-3dB. The standard perfect.Does it feel boomy or maybe piercing? If you get boom you can put a master EQ to curve out the lows a bit.If it's piercing, maybe the opposite and curve out the highs.Or pull back on the sidechained tracks. Maybe you overcrowded the low end with too many different sounds with the same frequencies and made the lows harsh to the ears.
I started making ambient music. Basically short droning sounds with a hint of an occasional tonal shift and melody. First two tracks had one layer, 3rd track has 2 layers. I have no musical bone in my body but it's a fun journey. Yes, it's minimalistic and easy, but it's a start. Who knows where I will end up after 40 tracks (if I ever get that far)? It's fun to play with sounds that make me feel like I am giving a voice to my existential dread and terror.
>>128348872It's fun.
*put it in a short vocaroo too>>128348827
