Nothing But Black Metal November.Blazebirth Hall edition.Old paths: >>128333826
Posting in real thread
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>>128340106>China black metal?gotchu phami love this EPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9-qNu_kPQY
BLASTING
>>128340542Blastang
>>128340567
REAL BLASTING
>>128340584based jannies BTFOing this faggot. KWAB
>>128340589We love the janitorial staff here, correct.
Need reccs
>>128340576nice>>128340589He tends to delete his own posts if they don't take off or they get too much criticism, newfag
>>128325869>>128325869>>128325869
A new Clandestine Blaze album dropped. Looks like you have to buy physical. No online uploads
>>128340542why does this cover look like Screaming For Vengeance but with a glacier
>>128340567>>128340575
>>128340567I've officially lost nbbn as I'm currently blasting old-school electro.As penance, I shall listen to nothing but Graveland and Satanic Warmaster all day tomorrow.
>>128340781Shouldn't you technically stop posting in /nbbmn/?
>>128340840Perhaps, but I'm not gonna
>>128340567>>128340855Good.
>>128340902How could he possibly make use of so many swords?
>>128341097Cheapo swords that shatter after one hit.
>>128341097An army of sworts
>>128340707>Looks like you have to buy physical. No online uploadsBvsed. More bands should do this.
Hope you set your watch back...cause Demo O'Clock is on the attack!
>>128341364Nebelgrab - Wanderer des Feuermondes (Germany, 1996)>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmNVHNIVfR8
>>128341364Covenant - From The Storm Of Shadows (Norway, 1994)>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK8MzfakG74
>>128341364Black Witchery - Evil Shall Prevail (USA, 1999) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDYFNZO1uGo
>>128341364Thallium – Gèvaudan (Brazil, 2000)>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neVwgBsXOgw
>>128341405https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0saLvPNa4ZA
>>128340584
>>128341364Based demo poster
>>128340567>>128341364Trve war metal.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09kpH_zfnYw
>>128341652just sounds like static along with all other "wAr mEtaL" bands lol
>>128340567Surprisingly really good
>>128341789Is Gorgoroth still active? Been 10 years since the last album even though it feels like just yesterday.
>>128341803They still tour occasionally, but I doubt there'll ever be another record
Should I get super baked and listen to Gorgoroth?
>>128341921Non-Gaahl Gorgoroth is pretty good.
>>128341921No to both, but especially the first one
>>128340567USBM essential.>>128341921Seems like a great idea to me.
If it's not shite quality and available as a single video stream on YouTube, I'm not listening.
Summoning bros what do we think of With Doom We Come after all these years?Will we ever get another Summoning album?
>>128342070God I hope not. Summoning suck donkey dicks.
>>128341956Antichrist is my shit.
>>128340567more Gobblecockhanyone have a better scan of this album art?
>>128342070I like it. It's no Minas Morgue, but I like it
>>128342099Antichrist and Pentagram are my favourites.>>128342112Is this better?
>>128342112>>128342186Option 3.
>>128342177thanks anon
>>128340663Lol
>>128342112>>128342177My local record store had a copy of this album for $200 on the wall and I was shocked that a late Gorgoroth album would demand such a high price. Didn't realize just how little copies were pressed for whatever reason.
>>128342218FYI, Last.fm usually has decent high quality artwork, you just have to remove the #x#/ part from the URI after opening the image.>https://lastfm.freetls.fastly.net/i/u/770x0/79f651486f5548d09b877a18c566bac5.jpgE.g. 770x0/ from this one.
>>128340773This and Das Tor are the way
To the anon who recommended me Nehëmah, I hope you get innumerable volumes of pussy on your dick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNp4HG0mZBU
>>128342243When I was looking for the cover art I was suspecting the same thing. Metallum doesn't list any CD represses for neither Incipit nor Twilight since their releases. Maybe Nuclear Blast hasn't wanted to touch them since the court case? Meanwhile Ad Majorem Sathanas Gloriam was released on Regain and has had a few represses. IDGI.
>>128342272What if he's gay?
>>128342313Then I hope he gets better
>>128342318No, then you should wish him innumerable cocks.
>>128342390What if he's a top? :^)
>>128342390No.
>>128342294Incipit Satan isn't on streaming either. Best I could find on YouTube/YouTube Music was a copy someone uploaded themself. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeSd-620a-aBtqsVvK_8PAg7J2rP4WMn3
>>128342409The only Gaahlgoroth on Spotify is the one track on Destroyer I think.
>>128340567A little better.
>>128342420>Spotify
>>128342420Also the best track on that underrated mess.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb4uKaQmKdo
>>128342429I know. But I cba to put everything on my phone, so far just the shit that isn't on Spotify. The quality doesn't bother me, 320kbps is enough.
>>128342429A must have for the working man
>>128342429>>128342441Obviously I don't use it when I'm at home.
>>128342401Then innumerable asses.>>128342402Yes.
>>128342449Take your faggot fantasies and fuck off
>>128336875Was actually really suprised how good that new Kaevum album is. Always a bit weary of NSBM cause I feel albums get a lot of push due to the politics/zeitgeist but this is just a great black metal album and the vocals are fantastic. Will need to check out their earlier stuff.
>Tags: Black Metal, Experimentalyou just know you got some kino headed your way
kaevum is nsbm?
>>128342451Why even hate gays? Considering that they remove themselves from the competition just ignore them.
>>128342469You couldn't tell?
>>128342441I cared lol, but unfortunately my native file player of choice (BlackPlayer EX) finally totally broke so I made the switch like, two days ago lol. Deleted about 100 gigs of music from my phone, more to come still probably. >>128342446Fag lol.
>>128342481>maybe if i subtly keep on bringing up gay fantasies i can induce a tonal shift in the generalnever worksdo what you will on your own time and spend your resources in a productive way
>>128342495Auxio seems decent after having used it for a few days.
>>128342482I saw this and thought they were pro-LGBT, what with how gay it is
>>128342496I'm not gay but I also couldn't care less if someone is.
>>128342507not sure you fully read the post you just quoted
>>128340567Probably my least favourite Behexen album.
>>128342512I haven't brought up gay fantasies, though.
Ok guys tell me how you make charts?
>>128342481Kill yourself
>>128342519https://topsters.org/
>>128342519microsoft paint, any topsters link is just a dataming honeypot and you shouldnt trust it
>>128342482heh never paid much attention to them really, can't stand the vocalists dialect>>128342519topsters
>>128342524I am feeding the algorithm NSBM.
>>128342524>Microsoft>not a datamining honeypotkek
>>128340567let's see if this is dissodelightful or dissodisgraceful
>>128342521Sometimes I feel like it.
Only atmoblack is real.
>>128342556All trve black metal has both atmosphere and RIFFS.
Horn.
>>128342556>>128342562Atmospheric melonorsecore: now everyone can hate it.
2025 AOTY contenders?
>>128342460In a world of diarrhea tier NSBM, Kaevum is a rare solid turd.
>>128342568
Hornposting is back baby.
>>128342568Kruun
>>128342175>Minas Morguewait wait wait lol, did you mean "Mika?" Are you talking about that chick project?? Don't fucking tell me that's made it's way onto /metal general/ haha has it??!!
>>128342605Same
https://youtu.be/7802dUaB7TonIceland
https://youtu.be/x8i6A-k2ShY
>>128342611What a way to get outed as a filthy phoneposter
Post charts, give recsMine is ranked from favorite to least favorite, fwiw
>>128342662Huh? I'm on my laptop desufam
>>128342671Rape topsters but whatever, guess it didnt render all the albums desu
>>128342678Talking about me and the autocorrect from Morgul to Morgue
>>128342671i rec you Nydvind - Eternal Winter Domain
>>128342671
>>128340567the vocals feel too muffled and quiet on this one imo
>>128342683Oh oh, ok I understand. Okay because, yes, I googled "Mina's Morgue" thinking perhaps you meant "Mika's Morgue" and got results from some kind of lord of the rings thing or something lol. So okay, just for the record, you weren't indeed talking about Mika's Morgue?
Threadly reminder that early Slayer is first wave.
>>128342726...no.
>>128342659>Genre: Symphonic Power/Melodic Death MetalIs Metal Archives wrong or did you lose?
>>128342731>still trying>still nobody giving a shit
>>128342748probably the rat
>>128342605Looks cool, might listen to this one.
>>128342726You've never heard of Minas Morgul?
>>128342540Cool sometimes and sounds spooky, but eh...I swear some atmo/dissoblack behaves more like post-rock than black metal.
>>128342794>post-rockor perhaps post-metal?
I thought the single was very promising
>>128342671>>128342686>>128342696Do I listen too quickly? I have ~50 albums on my chart already. Most of it is old stuff not requiring re-listens, though.
>>128342793No. Is it a band? I just learned from google that it's like, what, the name of a city or something in lord of the rings?
Horn
>>128342827I have a rule of putting as few relistens on my chart, so I'd say you're fine. I also relisten to everything on my chart throughout the month, so it isn't like it's one and done either-just pay attention to what you're listening to and you'll be alright.
>>128342827>I have ~50 albums on my chartLet's see em lad.
Polska gurom https://youtu.be/MJy2rEda5cI>>128342703Wolven Hour is probably their best song, perfect guitars and drumI like the muffled vocals on it
>>128342802You could call it that I guess. Point is it resembles post-rock's textural focus and crescendo-like builds and climaxes. There's also a bit of a crash cymbal metronome breakdown-ish moment on the second track. >>128342818I was wondering (and also kind of dreading) when they would tease new music. Is the single particularly different from Daemon's reheated DMDS imitations?
>>128342832It's also an album by Summoning but I was refering to Lord of the Rings.But I suppose it's not that strange if you are not into fantasy.
>>128342869I think it sounds closest to what they were doing on Chimera, for whatever that's worth. It wasn't blowing me away like Esoteric Warfare did almost a decade ago, but it's got me believing that they could have another gem in them
Venom sucks.
>>128342908Only Euronymous liked them.
>>128342908venom are based and i will listen to them once december comes around
>>128342671>Intolerant - Snow Stained with the Blood of TraitorsIt's a bizarre one but I like it.Try Nachtfalke - Following the Wanderers Path.>>128342827Don't feel bad if you listen to black metal year round. November is for ripping through albums, demos, and whatever else.
>>128342936Somehow only heard 'As the Wolves Died', so I'll be sure to put this one on very soon. Thanks!
Real black metal = First wave and war metalFake black metal = Norwegian twink shoegaze in the woods
>>128342962>first waveYou had me>war metalYou lost me
>>128342970Fag.
>Thrash/Black MetalInstead of Black/Thrash Metal. Is this black enough?
>>128343019IDK what MA's logic is for one band being Black/Death and another being Death/Black and another still being Blackened Death
>>128342827Last year I had 75 just after the first 3 days>>128342839Based
Good morning, lads! Posting progress:>Frozen ShadowsAbsolute relentless and great rec>Brume D'AutomneSolid melodies, very fun to listen to actually>Sorcier Des Glaces / NordmenDidn't hit my taste at all, abysmal vocals>Neige éternelleQuebec anon called this simple and straight forward and this describes it best>ZephyrousDemo longer than most contemporary LPs. The first half was so-so, but it did take off in the second half>LascowiecI'm absolutely blown away by this. The best release I've heard so far this nbbmn. If you can rec me more like this, please do.>VentosNice riffs, the shit production quality adds a nice extra layer >CaverneThis album would benefit from being longer.>BranikaldNice coincidence that this thread is a Blazebirth Hall edition. Second best release I've heard this nbbmn>NächtlichSome anon blasted this yesterday and the cover look intriguing. Strong EP, loved the outro trackGetting coffee now and diving into nbbmn '21 to see what I can find. Blastin through more quebec stuff
>>128343036I assume "Black/Death" and "Blackened Death" should be more black than death and "Death/Black" the other way around. But I don't know why there needs to be both "Black/Death" / "Black/Thrash" and "Blackened Death" / "Blackened Thrash" and what the difference is. If there even is any.
>>128343044Fuck off
>>128343044Good post, keep doing them
>>128343066No
>>128343044Proper chart poster. Great stuff on here.
>>128343044If you want longer Caverne records, might I suggest the Necropole LPs
>>128343061OK I found some forum postshttps://forum.metal-archives.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=99131https://forum.metal-archives.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=127819&p=2906054Seems like the first half of the slash is MA's read of the dominant genre of the band (with both still being abundant) while blackened death would be DM with lighter BM influences.
>>128342581This sounds like death metal to me bub. Pretty gud tho
>>128343044some absolute classics there>branikald>forgotten woods>hate forestbut also some real good gems like Stutthof (pre-Acherontas right?), Lascowiec, Frozen Shadows, Forteresse etc
This should be the meme album of the month, if only because of those fucking brutal death metal drums
>>128343146poor wofl had his teeth ground down since Wolf's Lair Abyss...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzWgCQu80Jo&list=RDjzWgCQu80Jo&start_radio=1Best 20 minutes of BM ever put to tape
>>128343157No no, he just finally grew into them :)
>>128343162A proper link for you, friend https://youtu.be/jzWgCQu80Jo
>>128343044I agree with >>128343082
>>128343124Metal Archives says Blackened Death Metal so we haven't lost.
>>128343118I see. I'm still going to listen to Blackened Death/Thrash, though.
more like metal shart guys
More like AH! The Satan.
>>128343235:-(
>>128343257AH THE LUCIFER
>>128343257>>128343275https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L8kz-ATSv4AVE SATAN. AVE LUCIFER.
>>128343146Ahahaha what the fuck is this
>>128343348elaborate
It's a shame that England, and Britain at large never had a good Black Metal scene. Venom is a heavy/speed metal band with an occult aesthetic. Cradle of Filth are essentially Gothic Metal with some BM sensibilities, and are incredibly corny. The only project I can think of that is actually good is Auld Ridge/O.W.G.A. I also know of Winterfylleth but have not listened to them properly. Thoughts? Recommendations?
>>128343541Hellripper is nice, but it's Black/Speed.
>>128343541Winterfylleth are probably the best. Then I always think of Wodensthrone alongside them.Check out Ildra. Only one full length from years backhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYpcKLSKgQQBall Saggeth maybe the most well known act
https://youtu.be/KbusBmcX5YM?si=viHLOdloCdDOLgR7
That thing ain't cute
>>128343541Someone posted an awesome Primordial demo last year.And I guess maybe kinda but it's a stretch Anaal
Utarm - Apocryphal Storiesis this black meal
>>128343720Lots of stupid-sounding words here
>>128343775No(ise)
>>128343816hmmmits good tho
>>128343843So is e.g. death metal, but it isn't black so not allowed.
>>128343775not really but it's cool
>>128343874Im a traitor anyway, Im listening to plenty of bm this month but not exclusively bm. currently got some synthpop on, next up is an older Kaevum album cos I only heard Kultur so far
>>128343942>KaevumNatur is good.
>>128343951yep thats the one
>>128337169>>128337185god damn this was gooddid they(?) ever do anything else?
My friend I used to make black metal stuif with died :(
>>128343967RIP
>>128343967Oh no. How?
>>128343985Complications from gender reassigment surgery...
>>128343990
>>128343985i dont know. we had a falling out a few years prior and I only found out about his death months after it. According to the obituary he died the day before my birthday.
>>128343966I posted it in the last thread. I suspect it’s the same guy but at the very least similar. https://youtu.be/VHflAjn3Kuk?si=dyCwy_bBmdBEpKxz
>>128344132Pussi
do you lose if you hear non-bm in a dream?
>>128344153Hmm?
>>128344153Ohh the pussy of course!
*BWOING*I forget about it every time.
>>128344112>unknown obscure what you love to see in a description
>>128344206that and banjo are two good things about this band
>>128344212>artist: unknown >album: untitled >track list: roman numerals
Chart so far. Slow start, but work's had me busy as a motherfucker.
>>128342605I love owls bros
>sound engineer so i lose nbbmn by defaultmy mixes have gotten more kvlt though
>>128344300
>>128344231OUGH
Black witchery is so good bros
>>128344300I got shown round an owl centre earlier this year it was pretty cool they had porcapines and meerkats and other stuff too
is it true that Phil Tookinass made the best BM album of the year?
https://lazerthrone.bandcamp.com/album/tomb-of-the-lunar-oraclecosmic black metal
Two days worth of work-blasting.Totenburg, CdG, Nehëmah, Hedengang, Lascowiec, and Ødelegger were great.
>>128344510FUCKing retard
>>128344520>Nachtfalke guy wearing a diaper on the coverKeep your fetish to yourself.
Idk man those guys remind me of the KKK...
>>128344520>4 of my recs on someone’s chart
>>128344551And it was fucking garbage as well>>128344598Nice! Which ones?
>>128344255>>128344520Damn, should make a chart too but I've just discovered the world of BM since a month now and only been listening and discovering bands daily now
>>128344627No shit? I'd say that's the perfect time to make a chart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHMKddqohzwnew mahyem
>>128340567Listening to Belus for the first time. It's okay.
>>128344616Autumn Strife, Forest Thrall, Odelegger, Hedengang, El- Ahrairah. Five, actually.
>>128340707>tfw can't buy because Trump will charge me extra
>>128344755>El- AhrairahDid not like that at all, but the rest were good.I just click every link and add it to my backlog
>>128344639I still have lots of bands to listen, haven't really had the time to listen to many albums fullyI'll make one for single song when I'm back from wageslaving
>>128341097Unlimited Blade Works
https://youtu.be/7zAP6UhHWk0?si=gztw7HaxVvKmZUHK>>128344774I liked the production. Very dream like.
>>128342611No, he misspelled Minas Morgul.
>>128344776What have you been listening to? The big classic bands, or just whatever has been posted in the threads?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPPAs0lRNp4FFO: Absurd, folky/pagan BM
>>128344804I look at what's present in BMP and other metal label videoThat's my bookmark playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEQNCghfIeoEFK5pVUJFF0sILfoycKg3NI'll usually discover a song then add it there then listen to the bands discographyhttps://www.youtube.com/@j8h96wl/playlistsHere are my playlist for each artists Mostly melo death and some black metal along with its sub-style
>>128344873Yeah fair enough>Windir - Journey to the End (without outro)>without outroNot cool.
>>128344891Honestly I'm not a fan of long outro, especially when I'm in a crowded bus and I'm stuck with this for 6+minutes because I can't reach my phone and change song
>>128344937
>>128342540Gonna make an Icelandic chart if no one’s going to post one
https://youtu.be/fh9nDr6NZBc?si=9NevLFlfMWT1gfZa
>>128344510>>128344520And what I've been blasting at home.Axis, Warloghe, Begotten, and Sorhin were great, Other than that it's mostly stuff I've heard before.
>>128342567Atmodissonant NS melonorsecore
Just listened to Luftuz by Wulkanaz. I'm a little sad that Kumulonimbus' music is turning into just the same black metal punk riffs over and over again.
>>128344937Why are you gay
>>128342726Word to the wise: anyone in a black metal thread is infinitely more likely to get a Tolkien reference than an influencer reference.Also, the context doesn't make sense. Anon said Summoning's newest album isn't as good as their second album, and you somehow think he was talking about some random e-whore?
>>128344231>current lineup: none
>>128342726What the fuck is a Mika? It's Minas Morgul, the fortress of the Nazgûl, you fucking poseur.
>>128345244Sigh used to have a saxophone chick named Mika, so that's arguably black metal.
>>128345262???
>>128345200>>128345244I think he's trolling
>>128345281If you don't know who Sigh are, leave the hall immediately.But they have a saxophonist named Mika Kano, so technically it's not 100% retarded to think someone meant "Mika" in a black metal thread. That said, it's still retarded not to know "Minas Morgul" as a name. Are you too young to have seen the LotR movies?
>>128345300>it’s dogshit
>>128345348I know who Sigh is, and it's jap trash. I only listen to Aryan black metal.
>>128345348stop talking to the resident lolcowhe assumed it was a streamer because he's a simp with nothing else going on upstairs
>>128345183He's been making the same black metal for 20 years. His electronic projects are what make him an interesting artist.
>>128345358Japs are honorary Aryans.
>japs are honorary aryans, goy! It's okay to race mix!
>>128343541this song's pretty good. rest of their (only) album is kinda meh thoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRcNo342-7k
>>128345397>>>/pol/, nigger
>>128343044>>Lascowiec>I'm absolutely blown away by this. The best release I've heard so far this nbbmn. If you can rec me more like this, please do.Angkor Vat - A Pulse Beyond Nothing (lascowiec's previous iteration)Vargleide - When Only Ashes and Scorched Earth Remain (one of the best BBH projects imo)Svetovid has a similar sound at times and even share a member which I didn't remember, check out Valhallan Dreams and Nature's Fury by themSunchariot - Swirling Sunwheel of Everlasting Life, ymmv on this one, I wasn't as big a fan of them as all the others I listedeverything by Branikald/Forest too of course>>128343146>fucking brutal death metal drumsSounds cool as shit, I love Pantheon but I haven't heard this one yet
The jew cries "/pol" when confronted
pls post in my thread >>128345414
>>128345510i like the idea
Apparently my glans is perfectly visible through my sweatpants. Black metal for this feel?
>>128345397I'm quoting the big man himself. You can disagree with Hitler if you want, but doing so makes you a communist.
>>128345529We hate Shitler and his retarded views here.
>>128345516the thing is I honestly cant do the nothing but part of nbbmn, I need more variety. I was gonna post that question in here but didnt want to get off topic or piss people offif you can think of anything, post it over there
>stuff that isnt black metal at all but you like it for kind of the same reasonswhat kind of stupid fucking autism am i reading
>>128345529Imaging thinking what he said publicly for political stability mirrored what he thought. Fake NS fan.
>>128345577click the first link, skip to about 6 or 7 mins in, listenif you dont know what Im talking about after, the thread/music isnt for you. ofc thats fine but dont shit up this thread over it, thats what I wanted to avoid
>>128345640I see, this is just a ploy to get us to lose. Stay strong fellow metallists
>>128345510fuck off matthew
>>128345423Very nice chart so far, check out Isänmaa if you like Ugra-Karmahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiP3ikitgAg
>>128343687Thank you for the Ildra recommendation, just got round to listening to it, this is some really good Pagan BM. I like it more than what I've now heard of Winterfylleth.
>>128345580Same shit for people that think The Man Against Time was Christian as well. They're too retarded to know that he spoke against it privately and only endorsed it publicly (politically) because Germany was still majority christian.
Post any black metal you've made yourself
>>128345545We? Who is we? There is no we!
>>128345367I like most of the shit he's released, especially his psych project Semilanceata. His older stuff is pretty original, but yeah, the newer stuff of all his BM projects is about the same.
>>128345768Hitler would have hated black metal because it promotes men wearing make up.
>>128345834Ok
first wave is realsecond wave not realthird wave is real
>>128345923>wavesurfing is NOT kvlt
stop posting charts you gay niggers
keep posting charts you lovely dudes
>>128345962When you stop posting your unfunny and obnoxious use of racial sluts.
>>128345976>>128345978gay niggers spotted
>>128345978i love racial sluts
>>128343541cornish black metal, lyrics are all in kerwenek:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNSzXq5jvH0
>>128342726》So okay, just for the record, you weren't indeed talking about Mika's Morgue?
>>128342175>>128342678>>128342683>>128342726this is why phoneposting tourists need to be banned
New Mayhem single dropped https://youtu.be/HHMKddqohzw?si=FnNwTKFdOdKCOuYL
>>128346128better non-niggerfied linkhttps://youtu.be/HHMKddqohzw
>>128342540Certified dissodelight, the lyrics are also worth looking into. Apocalyptic stuff.
>>128346111I need my /nbbmn/ fix when I'm at work
>>128342070i listened to it one time and never again. i am a huge summoning enthusiast otherwise
>>128346229Give it another chance, it is a grower. Just give that first intro/instrumental track a second chance.
>>128346229yeah it's a very forgettable album. the title track is good and that's it.
>>128345423Thanks for the recs, highly appreciated. Also>КPЮКOКPECTUnfathomly based. Was actually my first listen today.
>>128345423>SvetovidBest USBM of all time
>>128345423>>128346432>Valhallan Dreams2010s classic around here.
onwards...>>128346487>>128346487>>128346487
>>128344798based
