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SCALES:
https://www.all-guitar-chords.com/scales
https://fretboard-navigator.com/

GIT GUD with GUITAR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg1L-sBIxnY&list=PLJwa8GA7pXCWAnIeTQyw_mvy1L7ryxxPH
https://files.catbox.moe/qafrab.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QCt3UBTS1Y
EAR TRAINING:
https://tonedear.com
https://www.tonegym.co/exercise/

BACKING TRACK GENERATOR:
https://www.onemotion.com/chord-player/
https://www.musicca.com/chord-player/

DRONE TOOL TO PRACTICE SCALES BY EAR:
https://www.dronetonetool.com/

METRONOME:
https://scottsbasslessons.com/groove-trainer
https://www.onemotion.com/drum-machine/

RANDOM NOTE GENERATOR FOR FRETBOARD MEMORIZATION:
https://www.therandomscalemachine.com/index.html
https://random.bretpimentel.com/

(Please support the original creators wherever you can)

Pastebin (use this when making new threads):
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>ching chong guitar companies
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>>129451116
They come up with sine funny names that’s for sure
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Kalamazoo Michigan, he'll yeah
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>guitar threads on 4chan
>shitty music and retards arguing about consoomer shit

>saxontheweb forums
>beep bop boop shittiest jazz possible
>even dumber consoomer shit ($300 ligatures)

>join local community band
>braindead boomers
>they've been playing for decades and don't know how to adjust a truss rod, replace a cork, set a pad, clean their flute tenon joint, stay in time
>even dumber consoomer shit (retarded angled german boutique concert chairs taking up all our membership fee funds so we cant rent a venue)

I think I'm just too high IQ, too big dicked, to find any good place to talk about musical instruments.
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>>129451280
I often say musicians are the most retarded artists, in opposition with platonic philosophy. If you're intelligent enough to see through the bullshit, please spread your wings and fly high. It's all I can say, save yourself and maybe you'll help a bunch of idiots in your path.
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bet the guy above me doesn't even know how to play spain
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>>129451280
https://voca.ro/14UeLn54BAoy
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>>129451280
Outside of actual pro musicians who exclusively make a living off of it, having a lot of expensive gear is the biggest sign someone is a dogshit musician. It's like compensation for their lack of skill and/or the focus to improve.
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Any amp modeling pedals users here? I'm thinking about getting myself a Nux Amp Core as an amp replacement during practice/gigs (I find the fact that it has a send/return circuit really attractive) Would love to hear opinions from anons who use this or similar pedals
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I decided to take another look at the vibrato system after the shop told me that everything is working properly.

>the arm pole is digging into the body, scraping the sides and getting stuck

Wow, I doubt they even looked at this. Now I'm trying to straighten it up before shelling out for a replacement vibrato bridge. Fuck Schecter for letting this through quality control, but also fuck the shop for not even looking into this. I am never buying a guitar there again.
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>>129451413
Are you gonna run that into a speaker or PA?
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>>129451476
Into PA, ideally
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Anyone here like Benson Boone?
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>>129450709
I really like that, how did you get that airy tone towards the end?
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Refusing to buy any pedals for my guitar until I can play 10 songs
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>>129451280
waw you're so above it all. Post playing then, anything in B flat and it ends on an E
If you just wanna gearfag the boomer forums would be a better bet as they might actually own what their posting due to persistent identities as opposed here where any anonymous fa/gg/ot can
larp sans timestamps.

>>129451413
Recorded quality from modellers can be decent regardless of price. But the perceived quality of what you're going to actually hear in the room will depend on your playback system - PA/FRFR speaker/guitar amplifier. If through a PA or FRFR (they're supposedly the same thing, just the latter marketed to look like a cab for guitarists) it would be good if that has an IR loader or just EQ out the harsh high frequencies.
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>>129451280
>also huge penis, touring musician
The real red pill is that most musicians like the idea of being a musician more than actually being one. The same goes for writers, which is how I make my money.

Lots of pearls before swine in amateur AND professional music. I’m typically the best musician in the room by far, and even some of my buddies who are professional working musicians in NYC and LA have surprising gaps in knowledge. One drummer/percussionist friend who graduated with a degree in music theory didn’t even know what a tritone substitution was, nor modal interchange. He has appeared in Carnegie Hall, Lincoln Center, et al, but he couldn’t write a decent song to save his life.
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>>129451571
>The real red pill is that most musicians like the idea of being a musician more than actually being one. The same goes for writers,
This is true.
>be me
>sit on over 40 unreleased songs
>3-5 albums worth
>also sit on 3 unreleased books, plus 3 million words in other for fun projects
>no plans to release shit
>even if I want to there's no market for it
>still make these things anyway
I wish I could care enough to be like the tryhards though. At least they have the illusion that anything they create will ever matter.
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>>129451571
Aesthetics matter though, but there is a limit. There is romanticism even in academia. People like the idea of being a mathematician as well, its the drive to self actualization or incarnating the person they desired to be. The archetype "musician" might to them have a different definition and associations than to yours, and their associations to that archetype are strong and positive enough that they will pursue it for those reasons. So all the positive things you consider essential or maybe even externalities to being a writer, are actually core concepts to them.

I don't think its a big deal if your friend doesn't know those things, it sounds not relevant to their use case. I have a masters in math and my scope is extremely narrow in probability, stochastic analysis, SDE's and filtering. I don't know shit about category theory or algebraic geometry. I can't define a sheave or know howa grobner base works. That's fine, its not something I work in or am interested in.
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>>129451571
>expecting a drummer to be good at song writing
you sound like a pretentious cunt, strumboy
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gibson sg’s are the new jazzmasters. the youth crave the gibson sg.
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you talk like a fag and your shits all retarded
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>>129451571
You don't need to be musically educated to be a good player or songwriter. I have zero knowledge of music theory but can play multiple instruments by ear and have written over a hundred songs, all instruments and arrangements. Some of the all-time GOATs were music retards as well.
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The LARP is going strong today.
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>his collection doesnt include a bolt, a set, and a thru
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>want a new guitar
>too nervous to go to a guitar shop and try anything because suck at guitar
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>>129451623
In the best profession contexts, I’ve been able to say, “This is a I vi IV V in Bb and the last chord changes to iv on second time through” and instantly create the basis for the tune on the spot.

I also learn predominantly by ear, but I’ve been reading music for three decades. I can scan a page and hear the skeleton of a melody/changes just by looking at it. It’s useful to know theory, as in, “hey, looks like there’s a solo section in E coming up and has a key change, so lemme quote the melody up a third using common tones”. I know what that sounds like by ear AND I know what that sounds like by looking at it.

Music theory is really just pattern recognition and optionality. It gives me another way to convey an idea to someone, especially trained classical musicians, whom you should be able to write for Bb clarinets or French horns in F, saxes in Eb, etc. You can’t just tell studio musicians to figure out your idea if you’re running a tight session
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>play brass instrument since 4th grade
>years after i graduate high school start to learn singing
>realize I have really good pitch control
Guess it wasn't for nothing
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>>129451750
>know what that sounds like by looking at it.
Did you acquire that ability through sight singing?
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>>129451707
This looks like a strat with a dented skull. Pink is nice though.
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Anyone got a guitar with a Wilkinson wvs50 trem? I'm thinking of replacing mine if I end up trying to get the trem in working order. My high e saddle is actually sticking just a bit outwards.
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Is there any theory behind plucking patterns for arpeggios or is it just what sounds good
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Need a cab for my modeling amp
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>>129451855
Sort of, but I started in euphonium at 7, then trombone (way harder) at 11. However it wasn’t until started to play bass/guitar at 15, that I began to make connections that 10x my musical understanding.

For example, I realized that the harmonic series on bass was the same as the positions in trombone. Then, I said, what a second, these scales translate 1:1 - so I just started thinking in bass scales as I moved positions.

Over time, I could look at a melody and hear the notes. Or, at the very least, I could see the contour of the notes and gauge the difficulty of a passage before sight reading it. Heck, once you know the accidentals and Circle of 5ths, I can see a secondary dominants and key changes. This approach helps you when you screw up but can take your way through a rehearsal.

>Cheat code for guitar
Look for the lowest notes and the highest notes. If you can nail them in one position, sight reading is a breeze. Of course, there will be voicing, timbre, and fingering issues, but the main idea is that you gain a general sense of the piece. Also, you shouldn’t have to look down at your instrument unless there are wide jumps (you can notch the neck for shorthand, like Roy Clark).

I did do some sight singing at Berklee (left after two semesters), but I killed that no problem. Berklee puts all students in basic classes to ensure you stay for four years. Luckily, I had some scholarships and sheeeit.

But yeah, doing it all by ear will make you good at DIY/bedroom projects, but professional musicians will ALWAYS look down on you.
>sorry not sorry
>get good
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>>129451584
I get royalties from my books. It’s small and marketing is a pain, but I know a few writers that just release as much content as possible and have streams of income.
>it’s not hard
I make more money doing commercial work for Fortune 10” and FAANG companies.

As for music, there’s no money in it. My professional musician friends gig at prestigious events, but they still have to teach, sub, move equipment around major cities for other musicians, and still go to parties where they have to “kiss the ring” of some egotistical joo. The grind burns everyone out and just about all of them do coke to cope with the golden handcuffs. The ones who don’t are trustfunders or chosen minorities that love money and will do anything they’re told. Thats also not to mention the woke politics, which I had to apologize on behalf of my friend to save his job.
>ugh fuck these people
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>>129451589
You ain’t wrong. I’m just saying that I found my own path avoiding academia because of nepotism and a lack of meritocracy. I DESTROY them at jam sessions. One dude unironically made us listen to Jacob Collier and said, listen this is amazing.

As per use case, you’re absolutely right. My ex-bandmate gf graduated from an expensive liberal arts college in also music theory, and I could tell her more about Bartok’s split thirds than she could.

What happens in academia for writers is that people become too flowery but turn a blind eye to contradictions. Like, James Joyce’s books versus his private letters (which are WAY more entertaining). Sanitized, bowlderized, judea-ized whatever, these morons still do coke in their backyard while their kids are glued to their iPads. Gross.
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>>129451598
Nah, he’s best friends with a MAJOR 20th century songwriter who he actually played a few tunes for. This person said his sings didn’t have “it”; oddly, I saw this same person give a songwriting talk at Berklee during my first semester. A week before that, I had another booker tell us never to mention we go to Berklee or we’d never get a gig (he was right).

My same friend would also get staggeringly drunk and he’d drag me to the gate if the songwriter and leave messages at this persons gate at 4am asking to give his new recordings a chance
>pathetic
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>DUDE I HAVE to learn the PENTATONIC SCALE I just can't be bothered to learn the FRETBOARD so I can LEARN ANY SCALE I NEED to learn the PENATONIC SCALE
I blame Marty Schwartz for this
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>>129452496
I like the CAGED octave shapes for this.
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Phrygian Dominant should sound major but it doesn't
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I'm going to convert to Judaism and go to synagogues in LA to try and find a big record label head and have them sign me on
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>>129452544
Dominant chords sounds like dominant chords (the b9 forms a diminished 7th chord on the b9, 3rd, 5th, and 7th)

>>129452611
You start out in summer camps like Buck’s Rock (in CT). This is how ready-made but inept bands like MGMT are made
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Searching for Mr Right
Waiting up half the night
Feeling like I'll be dead
Before I'm old
Teaching myself to be
The Young Untold
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>>129451818
This is real. Band and orchestra, played trombone and cello. Neither of those instruments have discrete pitches, you've gotta use your ear. Now I can sing and have a great ear. Very useful for bends.
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>>129452811
how much would a telecaster benefit from a blend knob?
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>>129452678
>summer camps
I'm 25 so a little old for that, you can learn how to make music yourself anyway
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>>129452828
I think I have an ok ear, I was never really invested into my brass instrument, I stopped playing in high school and played football instead
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>>129452837
What's the point, you're either making it brighter or darker, just use the tone knob. Blending and tweaking the pickups separately is for out of phase, the waveforms cancel eachother so adjusting the tone of each pickup actually does something.
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How do I learn the tone of each key? I'm deciding on a key to write a song in - I plan to sing lyrics too if that matters
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>>129451473
>straightened the pole
>still the same issue
I think there's still contact between the pole and the body and I'm hoping that's the reason why it's not working properly. I've ordered a Gotoh replacement bridge. Gonna see if that fixes it.
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>>129452913
keys don't sound different from each other. you pick a key that fits your vocal range because that is usually your bottleneck
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>>129452930
>key that fits your vocal range
How does that work? Even if you can just sing one octave you should be able to hit every note in that octave
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>>129452950
It's like alignment. Everyone's voice bottoms out and tops out on a different note. If the lowest note you can sing and still sound good is a G, singing in D is going to be annoying.
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>>129452930
Would it make sense to base the key I use off a chord I want to use in the song? Otherwise I would have to modulate
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>>129452960 (you)
Think of it like keys on guitar. Playing in D is annoying because you don't have a low D without tuning your guitar differently. You can't retune your voice.
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>>129452960
So If I can comfortably sing an A2 as my low note should I have the key be A?
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>>129452967
Only if that particular voicing of that chord is extremely important. You can start writing a song from anywhere, if there's a chord you like try to fit it into a key you can sing. If it doesn't fit, move that chord shape somewhere else so the voicing is the same but the root note is different. If the voicing has open strings this is more difficult, this is why players who like open strings use capos and stuff.
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>>129452978
That will give you a wider range of notes you can sing that are in-key and make it easier to write the song. Doesn't have to be A, it's just useful to know what key fits you best.
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>>129452984
Chord voicing is like for a C-chord instead of C-E-G you start with E or G as the root right?
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>>129453008
A voicing is just the way you play the chord. The root doesn't have to be different, but it can be. There are many many ways to play the same chord, each one is a voicing.
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>>129452984
I'm thinking of a song like purple rain, can't imagine that song starting on any other chord.
>>129452995
How do I know what key fits my voice best assuming my lowest note is an A2? Not sure if I'm going in circles here but I don't fully understand
>>129453053
So like diminished & suspended for example?
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>>129452811
word to your mother
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For some reason when I play bass I can remember note names but I forget when I'm playing guitar.
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>>129453077
diminished and suspended are different chords with different notes, not voicings. i'm gathering that you don't have enough music theory knowledge to ask questions and understand the answers you're getting. you need to start by reading a book
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>>129453156
No need to be a dick man I'm just trying to learn
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>no nerdy tele gf
ill have my way someday
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>>129453188
telling you to read a book isn't being a dick. telling you you don't have enough music theory to understand this isn't being a dick. get thicker skin. if you can't tolerate your own ignorance without your ego complaining you will never improve
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>>129453209
I don't have an "ego" that's why I'm trying to learn more theory; telling me to open a book doesn't help either when you don't even give me any recommendations.
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>>129453225
NTA but check out The Advancing Guitarist by Mick Goodrick.
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>>129453239
Thanks, I'll see if my local music store has it
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>>129453225
You do have an ego. I told you where you can find more information and instead of saying thank you you called me a dick as a defense mechanism to protect your ego.
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>>129453255
>I told you where you can find more information
>where
>a book
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>>129453265
If you can't find a book on music theory you are actually too retarded to help. Do you really need a specific one? Want me to tell you what store to buy it from? Want me to pay for it too? Suck your dick? You disgust me.
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>>129453279
You're just being a nigger atp
Thanks for the help before though
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>>129453279
You aren't actually interested in helping him so just fuck off.
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>>129453279
>i'm gathering that you don't have enough music theory knowledge to ask questions and understand the answers you're getting. you need to start by reading a book
Come on man this was clearly condescending, you could've given him someone on Youtube to look up or a book recommendation if you were actually interested in helping him.
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Ironically he's the one stroking his ego for knowing more about theory than someone else. Btw >>129453310 see if you can find Advanced Concepts For Rhythm Guitar by Steven Crowell, I've seen pdfs of it but I dont have one on me.
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>>129452544
the major third isn't strong enough to counteract the effects of that flat second
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>>129453451
I'll look up some PDFs of it, I prefer to read on my computer anyway.
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i've been Tele averse for many years but now I kinda want one...
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as someone that has done music theory, you guys are making my brain hurt with all this "over-theory", plus you're all retarded about it,just play the right notes that fit the mood.
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>um im actually super ridiculously intelligent
>answer questions? sorry no, i uhhh…
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>wow all this theory talk must mean the people here are super knowledgeable
>*opens a voca link*
>oh
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>>129453504
you can either ignore music theory and stumble around groping in the darkness for something tangible or you can learn how to make music with intention. the biggest problem with assimilating theory is overcoming your own ignorance or reluctance to learn. these fundamental rules have been in place since the era of the classical Greeks, they already did the heavy lifting and we just reap the benefits.
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>>129453527
I gave you so many answers to your questions and all your responses to those questions showed you do not have enough fundamental knowledge to be understand. The last straw was responding to "read a book about music theory" with "what book?". You literally can't do anything for yourself.
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>>129453601
this is why you never spoonfeed
let the failures fail
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>>129453577
you don't to need to learn everything in the theory book. scales/modes/time signatures/chords, all of these are colours, if you don't care about that colour, then you should have no anxiety about NOT knowing it.
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>>129453648
i think you need to understand the color before you actually know if you like it or not
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>>129453601
I’m nta and reading books on theory is worthless. it’s better to know a lesser amount of practical application of theory than it is to know it all and can’t use it
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>>129453601
Wasn't me bub
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>>129453665
they don't realize that before you can break the rules you need to know what the rules are
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>>129453689
You didn't read the rest of the conversation, anon was asking a ton of questions getting ahead of themselves. I agree you don't need music theory to play, but you need music theory to talk about and understand music like anon was trying to do.
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>>129453728
>getting ahead of themselves
I have no idea whether I'm getting ahead of myself, I try and learn theory as I go along, as far as I can tell it's not linear except for the basic stuff
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>>129453665
no you don't, you should just know from hearing it. instead of "theory" it should be called "grammar". to a level you need the basics to be legible to most, but have you ever been pressured into using periodic sentences/active voice?
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>>129453748
You're right it's not linear, but it's like a pyramid. There are layers, and lower layers support the upper layers. The upper layers are the shiny parts that we want to master (songwriting, improvising, innovating). You are asking questions about the layers underneath those ones, but you're still not on the right layer. You've gotta build a pyramid from the ground up, not start halfway.
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>>129453774
You're right. I'll see what I can find at my local music store tomorrow, so far I've been kind of wandering the internet for theory instead of having a structured approach.
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>>129453754
if you don't understand what "periodic sentences/active voice" are, then you don't know if you like it or want to use it. That's my point.
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>>129453810
> local music store
attaboy anon
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mfers itt building pyramids when all i want is to play guitar
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lets get back to bitching about headstocks
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>>129453728
if you don’t want to help him because you hate him I respect that but I am immediately apprehensive of any advice on /gg/ because most people here are living on the peak of the bell curve. anyone that has accomplished anything would know that reading a book is not even good dismissive advice because they’re not all created equal. all I’m saying
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>>129453837
Well for me I want to make my own music so I feel it's necessary
Whole reason I started playing in the first place
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>>129453926
*grabs you by the jugular*
lets. get. back. to bitching about... headstocks.
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okay but how does quarrying limestone blocks and building a pyramid help me with music theory
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>>129453921
There is nothing special about any particular music theory book. Music theory is music theory. You can literally pick up any music theory book and learn it.
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>>129453949
Alrighty what do we think
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>>129454040
>there is nothing special about any particular ____
>__ is ___
>you can pick up any ___ and learn it
gearfags cannot comprehend this
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playing guitar is fun. i cant wait to finish this meeting then i can smoke another joint and practice dopethrone more on my stealth.
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>>129454046
Bart Simpson
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>i can't learn music theory with that book
>it uses indonesian paper
>my favorite guitarist used a different book
>i don't like the way the cover of that book looks
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When you check the liner notes sometimes you see what amp was used, maybe even a picture. But there's no list of which books he read or whether or not he rented Scotty from his local music store, funny that.
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115th post
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>>129454046
Superior
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>>129454040
>>129454048
finally some good advice
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>>129454161
>another superstrat with a dolphin dick headstock
yawn
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>>129454173
Nobody cares about the headstock bro
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>>129454173
>>dolphin dick headstock
you suckin plenty of those eh?
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>grabs a bud lite seltzer
>clicks on “adding major 3rd to your pentatonic solos” playlist
>theiryfags mad
yup time to chill….
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If you’re gonna get a superstrat, at least get a Luxxtone. Killer headstock
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>suxxtone
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for me nothing beats a line of coke and a charvel
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>>129454218
Big Charvel fan
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>who cares about headstocks got mine snipped off like a true 'merican
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>>129454218
a blunt and a bc rich
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>>129454218
coke will have you chasing the dragon get on strong adhd meds that last all day
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>>129454218
fender offset & quaaludes
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>>129454218
i had a charvel but my mechanic cheated me on my piece of shit car so I sold it
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Just jerked off to some haptic VR porn while high and now it’s time to practice.
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>>129454415
no clean up? right on brother.
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If you want to master music theory, get the Frank Gambale course
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>>129454528
Buy an ad Frank.
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>>129454528
youtube and social media as a whole is rats nest of con-men, a book on piano chords taught me most of it is redundant
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>>129454434
no i cleaned it all up :)
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>>129454662
>no jizz for grip and speed
shame
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>>129454618
Why would Frank shill here? How does he know about us?
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who the frick is frank gambale
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How can I use neuroscience to improve my playing?
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>>129454734
focused practice, break long practice sessions into shorter chunks with more frequency, practice slower and cleaner, get better sleep
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>>129454637
youtube videos and courses are a terrible format for learning. a book lets you absorb information at your own pace, and flip to other pages quickly. it helps with consolidating related pieces of new information together. a video is just force feeding you one thing at a time
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>>129454724
He invented sweep picking
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cross picking and alternate picking are all I'll ever need, combine both and get faster at it
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Kinda want a Sovtek Mig 60 bros. The Winter versions of the Model T also sound good too

>$4.2k for handwired version
Fug.
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>>129454218
caffeine+nicotine+cannabis and a Telecaster
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for me its kratom and a kramer.
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>>129451111
If im following the youtube course in the OP am I supposed to print the finger thing he has?
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^^^funny guy right here^^^
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vvvfunnier guy right herevvv
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/gg/ why dont you choose your next purchase?
https://reverb.com/shop/evans-gear-garage-589
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Hear me out...
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>>129455706
mod shop is fucking terrible. you get cucked on colors just for choosing different body wood and you can’t get a quartersawn neck despite spending over $2400
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tell me about this chord
is there an easier way to play it?
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>>129455743
>woodworking is complicated
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>>129455545
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>>129455777
Thumb across the first two strings.
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>>129455777
Isn't that just a B7? You can just not play the low E string, that would be easier
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>>129455940
that's terrible, it's simple enough to mush my middle finger on them both just kind of awkward

>>129455961
that works but not as full sounding, sounds neat going from Em
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>>129455992
nta but thumb is how you're supposed to play it
if you don't want to use your thumb play a different chord
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>>129456010
gross
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>>129455777
barre the E and A string with your middle finger, index on the D. easy money
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>>129456073
I don’t see how people with fat hands play chords like this on guitar. anything less than a 1.75” nut feels so cramped
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>>129456115
my hands are small and fat enough to be annoying. if you fret a chord, play each string to make sure it isn't muted, unfret the chord and repeat it doesn't take long for your hand to adapt
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>>129456115
The tragedy is you need big hands but your fingers need to not be fat enough to fuck the chord. You can probably get by with enough practice anyway but to a certain extent its down to genetics.
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https://voca.ro/17BJYnkAk2ET
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To the person who told me to practice the minor diatonic scale yesterday, I'm doing it now and will be doing it regularly.
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this is better i'm retarded, why use your thumb unless it gives you access to your pinky for embellishment
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>>129453279
I need you to squeeze the knowledge through my ear holes I can absorb it.
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>>129456234
one could say you are seeing minor improvements
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Is there any reason to learn to read standard notation instead of just using tabs? Tabs just seem way more straight forward
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>>129456355
reading tabs teaches you to read tabs. standard notation teaches you to play music. learn two things: translate standard notation to notes on the fretboard, and translate notes in your head into standard notation. combine the two and voila you can play what you hear in your head
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Messed up a couple times but I think it still sounds kinda decent. The tone, anyways. Just need to clean it up a bit.

https://voca.ro/1iTYt85XBVSm
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>>129456355
standard notation is easier to write but it also does a much better job of teaching you rhythm, making you learn the fretboard, and showing harmony and voice leading.
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I just bought 3 Joyo Sound pedals; British, AC Tone, and California. All were $20. British is a bad muhfucka.
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>>129455777
no one plays B7 like this, easier to just damp the top string. I find the F# note at the top makes it too jangly when i want the chord to sound deeper than the original tonic chord (E major).
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>>129456467
well that’s because it’s not a B7 it’s a B7/F#
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>>129456501
let your bassist play the F#
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>>129456355
Standard notation is for snobs. There is literally no reason to use it over tabs, Ive been playing guitar fo 10+ years and only use tabs
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>>129456355
if you want to play classical piece you have no choice but to use standard notation since the tab isn't many
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>>129456543
>playing classical on guitar
for what reason
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>>129456517
agreed
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>>129456560
antoine boyer exists
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>>129456323
this is really fun actually
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>>129452866
Test
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>>129456535
>t. built his pyramid from the middle
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p2M3GNWQ4o
>transcribing a solo guitar part with standard notation
now this is what grinds my gear
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>>129456611
transcribing slurs is no more annoying in standard notation than it is in tabs but you don’t have to play the slurs unless you are really just trying to replicate the piece in which that point they are easy to hear and remember anyway. let’s be real in that contemporary guitar is not that complicated
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>>129456611
open up a fake book and it's all chord names and standard notation
tab is great if you play by yourself and like memorizing songs from your favorite band though
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>>129456611
if you know your scale positions and what key you are in this shouldn't be hard to play on guitar anon
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>>129456611
it doesn't help that whoever transcribed this is retarded, didn't use a key signature and just wrote it in C throwing sharps and flats everywhere
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>>129456649
>scale positions and what key you are
it's Holdsworth, dude changed key signature every bar
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>>129456660
such is the case for guitar content creators
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CnG0h2HGjg been jamming to this
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>>129456601
>the food pyramid should be 60% starch
eat up goyim
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>>129454046
Making epiphone great again
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>>129455743
I remember when mod shop was $1500
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>>129456828
I think they are really trying to push you into buying a custom shop. all their models seem like they have a major flaw I don’t like
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>>129451571
you people are delusional, and you're not "the best musician the room by far," you are a dunning kruger pseud who vastly overestimates your own abilities and underestimates everyone else's around you, like most solipsistic npcs who use this shit website
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>>129455706
49 colors of alder?
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>>129456938
Alder actually gets paint options
Hog and Ash are natural/bursts
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Time for scales since it's the only thing I can do on guitar
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>>129456950
kek
probably the most based black dude on the whole site
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>>129456948
>can’t get ash chambered
into the garbage
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>>129456950
the pubemaster
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>>129456950
I've been working on some Doom, but it's not easy. https://youtu.be/sossVHoi2R4
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>>129456950
Quick question about the scales website. Is the way they outline scales the most efficient way of doing them? I kinda have this hybrid thing figured out where im mixing the shape I use on bass with what I see here. I always end up playing it right but just wondering if there's any benefit to playing the scales that exact same way.

>>129456957
Thank u anon

>>129456972
Yes

>>129457007
You're trying to play the beat or remake it?
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>>129457041
not really. it's better to learn the different positions/patterns like this
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you can just noodle around for sounds you like
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>>129457088
you can click the vertical button and find the notes in reach from each position but it doesn't really teach you which positions to use or how/when to move between them. this is why it's good to have a teacher
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>>129457088
This is close to what I've been doing. Just taking the major shape and moving it up and down the fretboard. I genuinely underestimated how important scales are and how much fun they can be.
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>>129457142
wait till you discover modes, your whole fucking life will change
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>>129457142
its the first step to being a good improviser. memorizing and reciting songs can be fun but I did that a lot as a kid and improvising is more interesting to me
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Do you have to use feeler rods when adjusting the neck or can i just kind of wing it
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>>129451707
Good shit mane. I have never had a piece of gear or equipment from Suhr that I thought was low quality
>t. owner of an Hombre and IR/RL
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>>129457200
based dolphin dick enthusiast
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>>129457198
a sheet of paper is .003”. have fun
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>>129457285
they aren't just similar they're the exact same thing. all you have here is the diatonic scale and seven ways to interpret it. major scale, minor scale, locrian scale, Dorian mode all the same thing.
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>>129457173
Iknow what modes are I just need to learn their shapes. Once I have these major/minor shapes down I can buckle down and learn modes shapes on guitar and bass. Saves a lot of time since they're so similar.

>>129457181
Yeah it's a lot more interesting to learn/play scales once I started figuring out how they worked together. I'm still struggling with songs so I'm not gonna worry about practicing songs more until I'm playing scales at a better pace.
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>>129457319
yea what the other anon said, you only have to learn the major scale and you already know the shapes for all its modes
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modes are useless until you understand what a tonal center is and how to change it
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>>129457257
preciate ya pal
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>>129457239
IR/RL was a revolution for me. I could use all the boomer shit I wanted and completely ignore all modeling retards, while still having modern interface.
The Fryette power station was too high of wattage for my low power-handling speaker cabs. You probably understand the amp wattage im dealing with here.
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>email company in november asking when bridges will be back in stock
>early january
>check every day, still not in stock
fml
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>>129457412
no worries. printer paper is about .0055” and card stock is .008” I believe
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>>129457397
this is something you can learn by ear. if you really want to get extreme with it try modulating between keys without your ear getting stuck in one key. you'll force yourself to learn when to keep things ambiguous and how to signal you're in a new key because otherwise you will feel trapped in one key and playing in the other key sounds wrong
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>>129457397
tonal center sounds gay, let's use the word emphasis. like we're playing in B minor but the emphasis is E, now we have called forth the world of E dorian.
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>>129457456
emphasis is already used to describe dynamics tonal center is the correct terminology. making up your own terminology is gay
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actually making up your own terminology is supremely based.
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music is a collaborative activity and making up your own terminology is anti-collaborative
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>>129457491
that sounds like something a sleckenschitzer would say
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>>129457456
so the key center is b and the tonal center is e. got it
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>>129456934
>Loosh harvester detected.

You’d be surprised how many professional musicians are nepotistically elevated into positions that they’re unqualified for. I’m aware of Dunning Kruger, but that also applies (you). How do you know what you don’t know?
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i got stoned and played guitar all day
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>>129457856
I used to do that. just take plenty of breaks and be very conscious of the way you're sitting or standing and your posture, that sort of thing. repetitive stress injuries are a fucking nightmare that you don't want realized.
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>>129457509
well the current terminology is incredibly redundant and gay
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>>129457450
a lot of words to sound like shit my guy
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anyone tried getting to violin after years of guitar?
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love my american fender stratocaster with triple single coil pickups and a whammy bar
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>>129458129
I was going to but the whole neck to instrument thing seems gay
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>>129458148
cello and standup bass are fun
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>>129458148
it's not that bad, bought an electric violin because i didn't want to create loud annoying noises, 1+ year in and at least I can bow without screeching anymore and managed to develop a bit of fingering instinct. vibrato is hard af though.
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>>129458143
I'm happy for you, Wayne.
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knottaker rlly had a meth induced mental breakdown and sold his entire life for a helix stadium and a charvel then comes here and pretends like hes something to distract his shattered psyche from the life he created for himself
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>>129455545
well there's something off about this guy
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>>129457865
oh my neck is actually jacked up from the gym yesterdah so my posture was terrible. i cant hold my head up, but it should be good by tomorrow.
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>>129458254
bro takes his guitar to the gym
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>>129458287
problem?
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>>129458312
neh
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I see a lot of the (squier)60's telecasters as of late
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>>129458381
Hello, Squier didn’t start making guitars until 1982. God bless.
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>>129458312
youtube.com/watch?v=lM3kVfIe9PE

this guy's actually pretty shitty
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>>129458397
think you're that funny guy?
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>>129458417
you wouldn’t hit a man holding a cat would you
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>>129458406
guitar solos peaked at maggot brain
>>129458432
no
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>>129458450
why do funk bands usually have someone who can shred a psychedelic lead? froosh too
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What chords is he playing here?
maj9#11 and maj13#11 and some other ones?
https://youtu.be/JYXo1SduW1U&t=834
Looks satisfying to play.
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>>129458571
no idea but i love this anything else i should listen to
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>>129458552
frusciante plagiarizes a ton of his music, nothing against him a lot of people do. the older funk players came out of the urban churches and there are some very amazing players in the gospel circuit plus they were heavy on psychedelic drugs
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>>129458621
The Eleventh House doesn't have many records. Their first one is held in high regard. Some similar type of tracks on their other records too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqrDfgNByo0
His solo career is hit-or-miss but it's different. I like Fairyland and Barefoot Boy. He's great playing acoustic too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueA23RUdlvM
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>>129458681
any other fusion players you like?
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>>129458691
McLaughlin, Holdsworth if he counts? I loved Phil Miller with National Health, would love to hear more of him if you know any great records.
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265th post:
But could you see its opposition
Comes rising up sometimes?
That its dreadful end-position
Comes blacking in my mind
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gambale is good, king of fabulous sweep
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I thought this song sounded kinda funny so I started practicing it. Turns out to be a very good beginner song.

https://youtu.be/yyJoEXWigNg
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>>129458750
>fabulous sweep
employee of the month janitor?
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>>129458731
i dont know shit about fusion anon but i'm about too thanks for the recs
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>>129458789
Birds of Fire by Mahavishnu Orchestra was my gateway drug. Thanks for the interest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AulNvAR0u5c
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this will be my new look onstage
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Whole band needs to have power ranger tracksuits
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>>129459243
>onstage
Proof?
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>>129459264
that will take convincing but the tracksuit i bought comes in like 10 different colors
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>>129459243
holding the synth might make it a bit hard to play guitar but you do you my man
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>>129459276
Black ranger is the coolest one but someones gotta be red
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but can she play Spain?
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>>129459243
Nigger.
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>>129459426
thats only gonna work irl
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>>129459243
>dj khalamari
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>switch position
throw it in the trash
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>throwing away an ES
should warrant jail time
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>>129459518
better than where they put them on a mustang
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buy indonesian guitars
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>>129459601
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>>129459601
https://youtu.be/bnnvoA6Lmis
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>>129459601
as long as it’s not an Ibanez
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>>129459651
my ibanez is playable but i don't know better, it has served me in a couple of gigs
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>>129459666
there’s nothing wrong with them inherently they just come with the most awful setups or at least that’s what I saw when I worked at GC. it was in the desert so high risk of fret sprout. mexican martins, Ibanez, and squier were the worst out of box guitars. the martins were so bad that they weren’t fixable most of the time because they still only put one way truss rods in them
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>>129459765
>fret sprout
influencer psyop that zoomers believe in
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>>129459651
The Artcores are really solid. There's a very big difference between the shredder Ibanez and semi-hollows.
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>>129459595
you don’t even know what you are talking about
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>>129459794
>The Artcores are really solid.
they are hollow and semi hollow quit spreading misinformation
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>>129459627
He said buy the guitars not live there
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How do I get good at songwriting
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>>129459884
do the opposite of whatever /gg/ does
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>>129459808
i own a mustang and i hate where they put the switches. what am i supposed to know anon
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>>129459884
hum melodies to yourself throughout the day, during mundane activities, find what has the most staying power in its simplest form, deduce patterns, replicate them and combine them with accompaniment (harmony), expand complexity to taste. discover that a lot of what makes melody memorable, 'catchy' comes down to rhythm as much as it does whatever notes you choose. start pairing all this with syllables, vowels, find vowels that sound good with your (or your performers) voice, vowels that sound good together, the importance of vowels in extending a melody. think of consonants as a way to pad the rhythmic component of your melody. map all this to words, if you want. create strong dynamic contrast in your song's structure. expand melodies to passages and sections. write alternations. invoke repetition where necessary. all of this might make you a better songwriter at least. if you're gonna be a self aware autist about it, assuming there's a how to begin with.
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I only have one guitar right now and some the frets at the top of the neck are worn down from overuse, but I don't think I could ever play anything else. Every other guitar I've tried just feels like dog shit in my hands. My only hope is to replace it some day with the same model but they're getting harder to find and expensive now.
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Shouldve always been in that area even if they kept the slider switch.
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>>129453225
you are stupid and that doesnt really have a cure so you are kinda fucked and should give up whatever dreams you have imho
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>bro spent 14 hours coming up with that post
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>>129451111
more like 180 seconds faggot
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>>129459926
>the frets at the top of the neck are worn down from overuse
b-b-b-b-bullshit! this isn't how it works! you'd be the first guy in the history of guitar to wear the frets out on the top of the neck before the bottom. you lie! gay!
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What is the purpose of scale positions?
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>>129459601
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>>129459912
Great advice
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>>129460112
What are dem headless
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>>129459982
kek
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live jammin
https://www.twitch.tv/spiritmusik

how is this dragging 3k viewers?
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>>129460141
hils hn3 and strandberg boden nx6 natural
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>>129459868
>I look out at the uk countryside and it's mini-historical structures get turned into LONDON with soulless new builds
I wouldn't mind living in indonesian slum
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>>129456355
It'll never hurt you, but there's very quick diminishing returns on it. At the very least, bass clef, treble clef, and rhythm is something everyone should learn but it won't immediately make you a better guitarist. It'll also do absolutely 0 for your actual fretboard knowledge since.
You might never need it depending on what you play. Being able to transcribe and figure things out by ear is a more valuable skill. Guitar is a folk instrument and still mainly about playing with others, being taught as an oral tradition, and improvising. Even a lot of composers just plug away in midi in a daw. Only really focus on learning if you're going to school for it or need to read it on a pro job. It's way too inefficient as a method to be the only thing you look at when it comes to guitar.

>>129456660
That's how a lot of jazz/fusion is when you're changing keys every few bars. Easier to follow along that way.
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>>129460438
>It'll also do absolutely 0 for your actual fretboard knowledge since.
*since you can just play everything in the first position but it'll sound bad. Positions and string choice has a very big effect on your timbre which other instruments don't have to worry about. There are also articulations that won't be present on sheet music but we have more options for, and feel in general for guitar music doesn't translate to sheet music.

Another thing is that guitar is a transposing instrument so its middle C is not the same as concert C.
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Learning theory & the fretboard together has been one of the biggest jumps for me as a guitarist, can't believe anyone in here shills against it.
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>>129460576
crabs in bucket &/via trolling
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>>129460576
in yet you still cannot play spain
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>>129460634
319th post
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>>129460634
you're right i can't the syncopation, the rhythm the entire chord structure is just beyond me even if I wanted to play it, but good thing is I don't, I've never even fucking heard of chick corea until /gg/
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320th post
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>>129460634
I have no desire to
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>>129460686
ah fuck
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play spain 67 my guy
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Jerry, what's the deal with guitars?!
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https://voca.ro/15GmzTFpX2Xc
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>>129459912
Does throat singing to Indian spam credit callers work?
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>>129459243
Clean. Cold. Ready.
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>>129455545
Ask them for demos
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>>129459243
DIOS MIO EL OGRO RETRASADO DE LA LUZ EXTINGUIDA
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>>129453188
One thing you should be ready for if you're serious about learning anything music - people will often not have time for your bullshit and might seems rude while they are just being honest and upfront. Grow a thicker skin and focus on what's being said, not how they say it,
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>>129460863
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>>129460863
I have time for you. Not even being a dick. Some of us are here for you and support your art. Get out there and rock it! haha. Sometimes it's not the rift in the heart is healed by a riff in the hands.
Rockin with the lord,
Gary
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>>129461104
Gare bear with the words of wisdom
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>>129461104
kill yourself
fuck your gayass shit,
Bob
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>>129461158
aw cmon bob you dont mean that do you?
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FUCK I knew it should have been the time when there are to be once have going as it appears to be when last weeks tuesday was demure
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another divine synchronicity when questioned falters and rescinds into the void as if nothing happened at all
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Can one of you fucking animals make a new thread? Thanks.
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There are two types of people in these threads. Grouchy goobers and authentic aces. Gibson is the difference.
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ᵍˡᵃʳʳʸ ᶦˢ ᵒᵏᵃʸ ᵗᵒᵒ
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MAKE A NEW THREAD, NOWWW!!!
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I DON'T HAVE ANY NEAT PICTURES OR WITTY JOKES FOR THE OP
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>>129461320
Use my guitar.
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>>129461330
Or use this photo of Shiggy, either works.
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>>129460863
I'm sure that anon was super busy talking on an anime image board
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>>129461411
he spoonfed the pussy guy enough at that point
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bumpu
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Okay one sec I'll make the thread
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>>129462695
>>129462707
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>>129460109
you can move them and now you're in a different key



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