Vieuxtemps editionhttps://youtu.be/fGzuScdx8FgThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>129758874
Strauss' Metamorphosen has the power to save the worldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OkgIkDYV64Seriously, if you don't like this piece, I'm not sure we can be friends.
>>129781735Classical composers' best works almost always came near the end of their careers. It's very interesting, because it's exactly the opposite in popular music. I can't think of a single band that continuously got better and better like so many composers did.
>>129781753I think it's the distinction between composing with some kind of training and classical fundamentals versus pure intuition and passion like a lot of rock/pop/hiphop is.
>>129781729a bad one since Sibelius' tone poems and symphonies evince the unity of his style
>>129781765Imagine how good a lot of these musicians could've been if they kept studying and training. I feel like there's still a lot of potential left in popular music for this reason.
>>129781753Because we get wiser and more intelligent (yes, according to new studies) as we age. And since pop music doesn't actually require any sort of intelligence, nor do the artists study and get wiser, it only becomes shittier.
>>129781766-_-I suppose I mean the symphonic structure could help solve some of Strauss' issues. I love Strauss' tone poems, both the short and longer ones, and without a question there's some questionable decisions in them, so maybe in the symphonic form, they would be nullified or at least contained.
>>129781774I don't mean just pop though. It's honestly the same in every popular genre of music, even the ones that aren't total slop.
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>>129781788Listen. This is /classical/, not "plebbit". We only discuss patrician refined music here. You are on the wrong bus stop, but instead of being a civil individual and leaving, you are instead creating a "ruckus" for the other waiting passengers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMw0EjLFPXw Wagner showed us the dangers of being a "faustian" man, not with long essays and tedious literature, but with elegant sound and smooth instrumentation. You are the devil, "Mephistopheles" trying to seduce us poor souls into degeneracy.W.
>>129781788Reading this as I'm listening to the Tristan prelude.
>>129781792Anon that's an instrumental piece of music
Saint-Saënshttps://youtu.be/sLAp4eBZLMs
>>129781798Is it truly music if it does not compel you to envision greatness? Is it truly music unless you start undressing yourself and dancing around like a nude mad chimp? Is it music unless it makes you feel sexually violated? Is it music if it does not make you shout and moan in orgasmic pleasure? Ask yourself this...where is the sex that you were promised? Where is the chosen messiah? Where?W.https://youtu.be/9GhGuEW4k5w
>>129781804Wagner cultists are weirdAnd I like Wagner
>>129781796Nothin' else like his preludes/overtures.
>>129781784>popular genre of musicAka pop
>>129781774>>129781784sighone of you is using 'pop' in the broad sense, the other in the smaller genre sense, relax.
>>129781831Jazz, metal, and electronic are all pop?
>1: It was our Nusen Dorma!>2: What's Nusen Dorma?>3: It's an Italian aria by Wagner.>1. Puccini. Wagner's German, and you're a moron.Such a cheap way to show one character is supposed to be the smart one. Yes I watch too much TV.
Brahmshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xheId004GgU
>>129781866What show?
>>129781882The West Wing, S1E02, "Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc"
>>129781888Something about this kind of stuff just makes me cringe. I mean yeah it makes sense I guess, but would anyone who knows Nessun Dorma think it was written by Wagner? Anyone who thinks that wouldn't call it an aria either, they'd call it an opera song or something.
>>129781895That's a good point. Lemme see if I can try it,>1: It would have been our Eroica!>2: Well, I never cared much for Bach or English music anyway.>1: Eroica is Beethoven, Bach is German, and you're an idiot.hehe now you know character-1 is the smart one
>>129781914Too niche. Only someone into classical music would've ever heard of "Eroica" lol
>>129781921true
I asked my kitty who's her favorite pianist and she replied,>ARRAUWW!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN_corqaqgY
>>129781753Chopin's best work was before he left Poland
>>129782553bait used to be believable
>>129781774>we get wiser and more intelligent (yes, according to new studies)I'd be very interested in seeing these studies. Sauce?
