Chopin editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-T9_CRwjWQ&list=OLAK5uy_nlXfrswyK2QXW57uoV7eG4ofDmAN3T-bE&index=10This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>129817224
Harmony is the simultaneous sounding of two or more notesCounterpoint is the relationship of two or more simultaneous musical linesMusical lines are made of notesTwo or more musical lines, made of notes, constitute harmonyTheir relationship therefore is inherently harmonicCounterpoint therefore is a form of harmonyq.e.d.
Did Chopin and Liszt ever meet?
For today's opera performance, we listen to Verdi's Otello conducted by Sir John Barbirollihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbszl8TdTtk&list=OLAK5uy_mBh8K_J_FfMr04CNOYOJYP1wYmRWf8oGk&index=1
>>129835377Interthreadional butthurt post.
>>129835380They were literally friends, neighbors and even shared apartment a few times, and Liszt wrote a biography about Chopin
does anyone have any good nocturnes or just in general anything similar that is soothing and good for contemplation and night time?
>>129835419>does anyone have any good nocturnes nah dude no one in history has done that ever
>>129835428you know what i mean
>>129835380I like all the crossovers we got in classical, Rachmaninoff lived down the street from Schoenberg and would play tennis together
>>129835419Cage 4'33" on repeat always helps.
>>129835419>>129808730>>129808779
>>129835439hardly
>>129835450>>>129808779What a pretentious post holy shit. Just say the last name
>>129835356The goat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PROCLaNobs8
>>129835419you mean aside from the obvious four Nocturne cycles by Chopin, Faure, John Field and, much smaller, Poulenc? try this set, which is 10+ hours of assorted Nocturnes, including the aforementioned cycleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3SPb1GxUqk&list=OLAK5uy_mnftq5eAN91D3T3LP5c0es2KyBeH_Xt00&index=69You might also enjoy complete sets of Faure's solo piano music and perhaps of Debussy.Faure (Kathryn Stott's set)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-nmgNPPlME&list=OLAK5uy_kJj-xBcXIvcUvFFKkL_mQOXPeoSv1sh94&index=1Debussy (Aldo Ciccolini's set)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x07QdGKfHg&list=OLAK5uy_k_LA2sB-2JiV8fa530DpwiG6NLElDwYnM&index=1enjoy!
>>129835481thank you!
>>129835465/classical/ is a high IQ average general. If you find that anon's post to be pretentious, this might not be the place for you. They were just having a little fun, especially since it was probably their thousandth time giving those same recommendations to the same question.
>>129835465I like writing the full names. What about it is pretentious? What am I pretending to be? Someone who knows names? Just take the recs or fuck off.
>>129835466Chopin was too powerful for this universe.>Rosenthal didn't record the full prelude setWhat a bummer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFHOuyeb3L8
>>129835545why would you *ever* listen to a selected excerpts set when it's one of the most commonly recorded works of all-time lol
>>129835465>Just say the last nameor what niggaMuzio Filippo Vincenzo Francesco Saverio Clementihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oImOV2lFraQMaria Luigi Carlo Zenobio Salvatore Cherubinihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_tHhDTEZ7MFerruccio Dante Michelangiolo Benvenuto Busonihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmxvD3n-nukyou gon cry lil guy
>>129835570aesthetic post
>>129835570italians sure had fun with their names huh
>>129835569Because it is by one of the greatest recorded pianists of all time, top 5 maybe.
Now that I did the nocturnes, should I make best recording of every Chopin prelude list?
>>129831816Assuming you've already heard Widor Op. 69 and Saint-Saens' Organ Symphony and Cyprès et Lauriers, try Jongen and Guilmont.https://youtu.be/8riHBnLbAkghttps://youtu.be/kU5oeXVtEUEBeyond that just look into the French organ school since that's where the symphonic organ was pushed to its limit, with and without the orchestra.
>>129835778haven't we been discussing recordings of his prelueds for like two and a half threads now
>>129835778Doesn't really seem like a work one should ever listen to piecemeal, unlike the Nocturnes, Ballades, Scherzi, Mazurkas, Waltzes, or even Etudes.
>>129835808he means for each individual Prelude (spoiler: with hiss recordings)
>>129835785*Guilmant
>>129835825oh, then no thanks>>129835778hey, no thanks
>>129835815Why not? I have a strongly preferred recording for some of the preludes, for example Rosenthal's no.6 in B minor is unparalleled >>129835545 - I think I could make the one perfect set to rule them all. Rubatomaxxing of course.
You've been visited by the Snake of Hiss. Respond to this post with what you're currently listening to or every recording you play for the next 72 hours will have a persistent hiss filter applied.
>>129835920Franck's Rédemption.
>>129835920Saint-Saëns: Violin Concerto No. 3 in B minor, Op. 61 (Itzhak Perlman/Daniel Barenboim/Orchestre de Paris)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd5LN2s5VUM
>>129835920Frédéric Chopin's vingt-quatre préludes opus 28, recorded by Maurizio Pollini.
>>129835950oooo never heard of this before. By the end of my life, I hope to have heard every classical oratorio (and similar type work).
>>129835920https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhdHgOcCsSU
>>129835778I like Kissins Or Pollinis.
>>129835950:)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTL3ItzPIec
>>129831532>Ivan MoravecIntroverted. I feel like I am listening in on someone playing to himself on a lonely, rainy sunday afternoon.>Garrick OhlssonHe clearly has an overarching idea for how to appreach the set. Unfortunately I do not like it.>Ivo PogorelichRefreshing in some preludes, but with the more lyrical ones I sometimes get the feeling that he played them excessively slowly just for the sake of doing something different. On the final balance, I'm afraid the bad outweighs the good.>Maurizio PolliniClear, straightforward, elegant. Honestly maybe even a bit boring compared to the other options available, but a great choice if you want a no-nonsense interpretation.
>>129836186Pollini is great for the études
oh shit oh shit oh shit, Raphael Pichon just dropped a St John Passion recording, get it while it's hot!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFwVHq_j4Us&list=OLAK5uy_knFZeu6J3JD9k3hHzlMsMxmpO0Pfzz2xU&index=1for those not aware, he's one of the best choral conductors currently working, and in recent years he's released superb, acclaimed recordings of Bach's Mass in B minor+SMP+motets, Brahms' German Requiem, Mozart's Requiem, Monteverdi's Vespers, and a couple assorted choral recordings. All of them are essential listening. All he needs now is a Beethoven's Missa Solemnis and Berlioz's Requiem!review for those interested,https://theclassicreview.com/album-reviews/review-bach-johannes-passion-pygmalion-pichon/>When the Leipzig town council hired Bach, they made it clear that his sacred music should not be too operatic. This performance would surely have confirmed their fears. But we do not live in 1720s Leipzig, and I, for one, found this a particularly involving and moving account of Bach’s masterpiece. ---- David A. McConnell
Just came across this interesting recording, it's Wagner's Ring without words and transcribed for organ. It's not really my thing but I know we have some organ fans here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m90C93uPxM&list=OLAK5uy_mJ4f9IT5zZ8AlfFpK-yNs4yH4VvnN-bro&index=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTv17GTGkkk&list=OLAK5uy_mJ4f9IT5zZ8AlfFpK-yNs4yH4VvnN-bro&index=2>Hansjörg Albrecht considers the organ to be the ""Queen of the Instruments"". He chose to record Wagner's Ring on the organ because it's in various scenes throughout the Ring Cycle and because the organ is the only instrument equal to a big orchestra. Albrecht uses a wide array of timbres and colors on the St. Nikolai organ to bring Wagner's works to life.The composer/transcriber probably has other similar organ transcriptions too if you're into this.
>>129836357>it's Wagner's Ring without wordsoh HELL ye-->and transcribed for organdropped
this movement from Strauss' opera Daphne just changed my lifehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaWJFaF2Q1A&list=OLAK5uy_lPZDslH539QYWTk1xsyJvuBJHOHVr672c&index=2
now playingstart of Britten: Piano Concerto in D Major, Op. 13:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2NfhiDGw7I&list=OLAK5uy_n3QJdDuNvx-d1WCo14kBT-uq5n7WdfTLU&index=2start of Britten: Violin Concerto, Op. 15https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT4PAo3Qd5A&list=OLAK5uy_n3QJdDuNvx-d1WCo14kBT-uq5n7WdfTLU&index=6https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3QJdDuNvx-d1WCo14kBT-uq5n7WdfTLU>...there Howard Shelley and Edward Gardner create something marc mercurial, Gardner conjuring that lithe, high-tension drama he has so successfully achieved with Britten's stage works. The insouciant viola and clarinet solos which open the second movement 'Waltz' are irresistible, and Shelley moves from teasing to demonic as the movement begins to snarl... This may not be a flawless reading (some of Tasmin Little's double stopping being just short of immaculate), but Little and Gardner plumb its emotional heart in a performance of great passion and spontaneity. There's a sense nor just of supple flow from Little, but an incandescent commitment to the work. --Helen Wallace, BBC Music Mag>Britten's Piano Concerto must surely be one of the greatest piano concertos of the twentieth century' - thus Howard Shelley's opening comment in his 'note from the performer' in the accompanying booklet, a comment which has never enjoyed universal agreement. Even today there are some who simply do not grasp what the work is about. But then, they haven't heard this performance. --International Record Review
>>129836681>Britten + ShelleyI raise you Foulds + Shelleyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P9SerPpgH0
>*Dad, why is my sister named Rose?">Because your mother loves roses>"Thanks dad">No problem Andante spianato et Grande polonaise brilliante in E-flat major Op.22 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crG_sRwDsu0
>>129835356His best stuff was his Polish stuff.His MO was the Polonaise in A Flat.
>>129836840made me smirk
>>129836846>His best stuff was his Polish stuff.Well duh, he was polish: All his stuff was polish.
>>129836883He was half French
>>129836883He was practically French
>>129836883He was spiritually French
>>129836883You're right, he was 100% polish as was his music
>didn't go back to Poland once (1) his whole life He was French, sorry Poles.
>>129836746Fun stuff!
>>129836883He was physically polish
It's timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN4HLTLJlqw&list=OLAK5uy_nY-lbHnU4Bq_5VkF1L0PHAGxFr_NMyMo4&index=4
>>129836883He was metaphysically Polish
>>129836934doesn't matter. what defines your brain and spirit is your blood and genes, not where you lived your life.
>>129836934His heart still exists and it's in Poland tho
>>129836984ok 19th century phrenologist
>>129836886>>129836912>>129836920his father was french but his music was polish
>>129836961Going from Solti's Ring cycle to this one is a trip, they're complete opposites in interpretation. Where Solti's is loud, tense, exciting, even menacing, Mark Elder's is slow, sensitive, dreamy, otherworldly. This part captures it pretty wellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqtfksJQ5cE&list=OLAK5uy_nY-lbHnU4Bq_5VkF1L0PHAGxFr_NMyMo4&index=9or, of course, the orchestral Preludehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpWZOU0ZICs&list=OLAK5uy_nY-lbHnU4Bq_5VkF1L0PHAGxFr_NMyMo4&index=1
>>129836994Looking at this makes me feel uncomfortable. I suppose I prefer the fact it's preserved over the alternative, but nevertheless.
>>129837152It's kinda cute, I want to pet it
>>129837165From now on, stay on your side of the yard.
>>129837024>his music was polish Only the Mazurkas and Polonaises
>>129837174:(
>>129837152>>129837165it literally just looks like old schnitzel
>>129837182kek
>>129837178his music was too feminine not to have come from his mother's side, ergo all his music was polish
>>129835381DFD as Iago is about as badly miscast as DFD as Wotan lmao
lol blackface lmao
>>129837459DFD's voice transcends characters and plots
>>129837192>music>genderPick one
>>129837567In the same way a shit pile "transcends" the other smells in a room.
>>129837582l0l
>>129837570I choose the music, thank you. I have no use for Chopin's gender.
>>129835920https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTxO7hmQ1W4&list=OLAK5uy_lsCxbtUsCF7oIm9AEgnFFIshpWuNTxgog&index=7
>>129837650Oh, thanks for bringing this up, I gotta listen to em all old schoolers, this has been under my radar for some time.Do you like it?
>>129837691yeah, but his playing is more restrained than others
Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbx2XTtj5oM&list=OLAK5uy_lJSBzCAHOXXKqiEWTTMe3_UiBfRejPOpY&index=2
>>129835778for me?it's Julien Brocal
we try this yet? thoughts?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-J6opjHx0k&list=OLAK5uy_mbgNu7ca8fm8FQX1ReQ-Oa7IFKGOjFRjM&index=1>Written in the shadow of personal tragedy and his own heart condition, the work has often been heard as a farewell - to life, to Vienna, and to the world he knew. It's premiere was given in Vienna in June 1912 by Bruno Walter, Mahler's protégé. Landmark performances with Walter and the LPO in the 1930s and 1940s helped ingrain Mahler's music into the Orchestra's DNA, a legacy that continues to shape the LPO's sound and spirit today.
Mozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpJ8lVQDuqk&list=OLAK5uy_maEaXiMqip-zEReEQgbE8mag-oLJaqTi0&index=12
>>129836098dis güd
>>129838397>weI tried it. I didn't like it.
So after I've listened to each of Wagner's and Strauss' operas a thousand times, what are some similar turn-of-the-century/early 20th century German operas worth checking out? I know Franz Schreker has some, so I checked out his Die Gezeichneten which is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. Anything else?Italian and Russian opera are fine depending on my mood but they don't quite scratch the same itch.
>>129838663Wozzeck
>>129838663Schillings Mona LisaBusoni Doktor FaustusPfitzner PalestrinaHindemith Sancta Susannathats it i guess
>>129838693Hasn't clicked yet. And I've still been putting off Schoenberg's Moses und Aron. But maybe I'll listen to one of them tonight.>>129838703Dope, thank you!
>>129838663this >>129838693 and Lulu. You migh also find Moses & Aron by Schönberg, Karl V by Křenek, Bluebeard's Castle by Bartók, and Król Roger by Szymanowski interesting.>Schreker I quite like Irrelohe by him, incidentally
>>129838765>Karl V by Křenek, Bluebeard's Castle by Bartók, and Król Roger by Szymanowski interesting.Thank you. I always forget Lulu is an actual opera and not just an orchestral suite, lol.>I quite like Irrelohe by him, incidentallyI haven't listened to all of his operas yet but that one is indeed nice!
>>129838765>>129838784oh I also second Doktor Faustus and Sancta Susanna, although perhaps Hindemith's Mathis Der Maler or Die Harmonie Der Welt would prove to be more interesting for you
>A review of the first release of what will ultimately be a complete set of the Beethoven string quartets appeared on this site in 2024. To paraphrase what I wrote on that occasion, what makes their performances so special is the quartet’s unique approach to performance practice. This embodies not simply the use of period instruments and playing them with a lack of continuous vibrato, but such matters as the employment of rubato, allowing for a greater flexibility of phrasing and rhythm, and, perhaps most radical to the modern ear, the use of portamento or glissando – the sliding of one note to another, borrowed from vocal music. All these innovations stem from a long and careful study made by the Narratios of performance practice in Beethoven’s day, while it is important to recognise their usage has one purpose and one purpose only: to serve the expressive qualities inherent in the music. >So you won’t hear portamenti used indiscriminately but carefully judged to enhance expression. Probably the most striking example here is the outset of the third movement of opus 59, no. 1 in F. Marked Adagio molto e mesto, it is an elegy of the greatest profundity, the use of portamento here enhancing the inner qualities of the music. The revelation that results is further enhanced by rhythmic flexibility.hmm let's see what this means in practice...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PFjmO-J1jo&list=OLAK5uy_ljfZkwDFtGu5S8BFRi4N3Z5hkQq6n6UtA&index=1interesting. not sure if I love it but it is different
Oscar-Arthur Honeggerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu7NskuYF7Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2WmIoUeX1chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa5nMSrME-4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PjvRC6OGbohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAl6ZnIDwKEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqSFBwBC0S0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_73erL8o_9whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4FmuobrUs4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AR8Y8bWFSwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKLcpEF29nQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbTdcWUTV4Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prxyp8EHITohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrDpP0Z2ojEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeqhKYRV7ughttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rocZ_0CayFohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcHHFH1AN_0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qFqUUQx2Lshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ddnp-GHn6Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZJm2AEcbzIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vnhPVyMb38https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDy3brfTcIshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQw_xezqK_shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEUGLqJEfJAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpT_I8tjxbQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTd_1GKeQg8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKYCB3PdLakhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wjT1ycujT4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx8FX5ZtnNMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iphzdVU9kEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlg0r2wXuIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZRBxy6onXM
Mozart Erected the Form of Music so that Wagner could provide the Orgasm.
>>129839604Mozart got a boner so Wagner could sit on it and make it cum, got it
>>129839729Hot
Happy Bach day
Post your favourite Bachshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0c7YMV4LF8
>>129841721https://youtu.be/bwKws1aIESQ
>>129841711Bach and Haydn
>>129841721https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77MI9NBKxmM
>>129836934There were two Chopins, one of them lived in Poland and one lived in France
>>12983960412 year old humor
Wagner poster is one guy
>>129842079we know
>>129842079all of /classical/ is one poster. in fact, I'm replying to myself right now.
>>129842079how long did it take you to figure this out
>>129842079Bait and retardation calling it.
>>129841721https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KrHZ5_0JOs&list=OLAK5uy_mVKjw1iZQv8gviNCwnfTp0xeFrEw4gQcU&index=4
>>129842079that's what listening to Wagner does to a mf.
>>129842079Not true! There is another guy who sometimes posts. But sure, 95% of the time it is me.
>>129842591spend some precious time with your friends and family. The condition is terminal.
chopin deez nuts
Feels like a Die Walkure->Meistersinger->Parsifal dayGotta finally download the Kubelik recoding of the latter twohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTWTSy72er0&list=OLAK5uy_mZEpsQSiLBFOF6KWiZnIpHLKude3PgaA8&index=5
ugh the only upload I found of the Kubelik Meistersinger on RT is a 10GB .iso! any chance someone has it in smaller size and can upload it and share, please? thank you. I only have 7GB free on my hard drive at the moment.
>>129842874>>>/t/1396347
>>129842952fug now you have my IPI kid. Thank you very much. It hasn't started downloading yet but I'm sure it's the real deal.
>>129838831As someone that enjoys portamenti and rubato very much, this is not particularly good.
>>129843024Well you gotta give them points for effort. Whether it's actually more accurate to Beethoven's time, I doubt it, they probably just wanted an excuse to do that sound.
Giacinto Scelsi
>>129843050It is more accurate. Virtually every ensemble prior to the early 20th century was utilizing portamento and rubato in spades, it's just that they're doing it very poorly. A good comparison would be the Capet Quartet or the Klingler Quartet, both of which were steeped in that tradition. But their use of both of those techniques is far more nuanced and serving of the music, whereas here I feel it's rather random and mannered.
>>129843067Huh, interesting. Maybe I will give their entire set a try then.
>>129836186>Daniil TrifonovNothing special.>Samson FrançoisForte melody passages in e.g. No. 6 sound rather harsh, brute. Has an almost aggressive feeling sometimes. Not convincing overall.>Claudio ArrauAgain, not really anything special.>Alexandre TharaudDid not impress me either.Gotta be honest, I have another 15 or so sets on my list, but I'm starting to think that I've already heard pretty much all there is to hear on the subject.
>>129843197fug you didn't care for the Trifonov, Arrau, or Tharaud? sad
Top five Chopin Preludes Op. 28 recordings of those I listened to over the last couple days:>Martha Argerich>Grigory Sokolov (1990)>Ivan Moravec>Maurizio Pollini>Cyprien Katsaris
>>129843255pollini's is a snoozer dude
>>129843271I agree that it doesn't have any fireworks or big interpretive ideas, but it has a sense of immaculate beauty that reminded me of Mozart.
>>129843255Pretty decent list. Good variety.>>129843271>>129843300Everyone needs a 'straightforwardly played' set in their primary rotation for any piece. You need Pollini to balance the Sokolov.
>>129843255basic af
>>129843381The best stuff rises to the top. Any respectable list will be 'basic' with maybe one eclectic, personal choice.
>>129843390>The best stuff rises to the topthen why aren't any of your recordings 'best'?
>>129843255i'm fine with most of these choices but Pollini is simply too vanilla for mehis earlier unreleased EMI one is better at least imo
>>129842952>>129842969It still hasn't started. If it doesn't start by the time I finish listening to Die Walkure and Lohengrin, I riot.
>>129843255>>129843197did you at least try Ingrid Fliter?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oheApqfazDI&list=OLAK5uy_no_CyvrLENbGcjOM62x4eHmfEYpbX_L00&index=9
>>129843523I don't really know how this stuff works, maybe I messed up the settings or something when I created the torrent. Try this one: >>>/t/1396351
>>129843538No, I haven't gotten around to her recording. I'll probably continue this in a couple weeks, right now I feel prelude burnout creeping up on me.
>>129843587Fair enough.>I'll probably continue this in a couple weeks, right now I feel prelude burnout creeping up on me.Good thinking. In the meantime, start comparing Nocturnes recordings!
>>129843571Ah I've been there, trying to get my upload stats up on private trackers back when I was into all that stuff a decade and a half ago. I'll try that one. Much appreciated for the effort.
>>129835356>Chopin, Schubert, and Liszt had no idea of how to write for the piano. Glenn Gould
>>12984364450 IQ moment
>>129843571It's still not working. Don't stress it, there's plenty of other great Meistersinger recordings I can listen to. I appreciate the effort anyway!
>>129841711>>129841721>>129841747>31st March, international transgender visibility day>Also Bach/Haydn birthdayBach stands for trans rights.This is the quintessential Wendy Carlos day(Couldn't find a youtube link, don't have access to my pc rn)https://www.mixcloud.com/dvrtimemachine/walterwendy-carlos-switched-on-bach-original-pressing-recording-year-1968/
which Meistersinger to listen to...Jochum, Varviso, Knappertsbusch 1960, Knappertsbusch 1955, Knappertsbusch 1950https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXfLHNqmiL4&list=OLAK5uy_krTUNA0J3uGWbGIgxexw4zu3pUWavzsao&index=1
>>129843737Based
Happy birthday dad>points to heaven, it all comes from herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIvWjI4PrJw
Listening to James right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhAUH2ernnU
>>129844025Not sure what this has to do with classical. Maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?
>>129844065Its a classical album but if you guys don't talk about newer classical I could make my own thread.
>>129844077do
>>129844077This general is mostly for traditional classical, stuff before 1950.
Roll
Hmm. Yeah, it's actually pretty good. Not as good as Cortot or Moiseiwitsch, but miles more interesting than most other modern pianists.
Szell's Mahler, discuss
>>129844182nonce
>>129844170Martha Modl is definitely the qtest>>129844182It's mid and not stylistically appropriate for Mahler
>>129843255https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOujZ3ju_dk
>>129844182Szell doesn't have a single (one) worthwhile recording.
>>129844377Nah. His Missa Solemnis is very good.
>>129844436If you're deaf maybe.
>>129844501Name your favorite Missa Solemnis
>>129844505https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g-AQr14l4I
>>129844505Toscanini 35.
>>129844182Everyone likes his 4th.>>129844170now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcSfjbAi16M&list=OLAK5uy_mZEpsQSiLBFOF6KWiZnIpHLKude3PgaA8&index=46https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hqs-UXVodU&list=OLAK5uy_mZEpsQSiLBFOF6KWiZnIpHLKude3PgaA8&index=56>>129844377my rebuttalshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTg-OxiP4H4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3AhaMRXuV4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VableltZt54
>>129844505My favourite, pic related, has proved to be far more controversial than I would've expected here. I am however personally prepared to fistfight IRL anyone who want to over it, just dm me your address I'll be there in a month or two
>>129844619It's a bit stodgy, but I've only tried it once.
>>129844182His 6th is great!
>>129844618No one with a taste likes anything by Szell.
>>129844436Too many coofers and page flippers, not to mention the hiss and the flat sound, but the performance is adequate I guess
>>129844581Mid.>>129844590I prefer the 1939 performance. But, yeah, Toscanini is pretty great in the piece. That being said, Szell very clearly emulates him. >>129844618His Mahler 4th is fucking awful, though.>>129844619It has great singing and a great orchestra, but just a bit too slow for me. I say that while loving Kegel's version, but at least he compensates for a very audible organ and the best chorus contribution for the piece on record.>>129844650>hissEasily to reduce. >flat soundEasy to fix. Sounds like a skill issue.
>>129844640my rebuttalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDhb0ztacM0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5A_FFahysYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob40ICDXAu0
>>129844631That's weird. As opposed to airy and uncumbered in flow I imagine you mean? To me it's very heartfelt and solemn in a metaphorically teary-eyed way, but maybe that does add some unnecessary weight to the proceedings?>>129844657>just a bit too slow for meOooh that makes more sense. I'm quite content with the tempo myself but maybe that's because I've long settled on it and a faster one would feel unnatural to me
>>129844657Szell clearly fails to do anything remotely listenable, let alone emulate Toscanini.
>>129844657>Easy to fixyeah, by listening to a better performance that's been recorded better, duh
>>129844663Klemperer is an example of the same reverential approach but done well, imo. But again, I've only tried Jochum's once, I'll give it another go.
For me, it's Giulini's Missa Solemnis for solemnity and Bernstein's for excitement.Giulini/London Philharmonichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlf63KpjhTgBernstein/Royal Concertgebouwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PX2vA9uAJA&list=PL2CncTXpAjVPFiciZDgDY2n2W5GFVNn1d&index=4
>>129844700Oh I was for the longest time convinced I had settled for the Klemperer recording, which remains my second favourite, but Jochum took the first place after some time of being tied. There's just (to me) a subtle extra emotional depth and resonance in it, I don't quite know how to explain it. I fear I risk sounding like a complete tosser if I keep using pop-music-reviewer-tier terms like "ethereal" and "bright" and "gravitas" and "pathos" while refusing to go into more technical analysis, but that's just how I experience it, what can I say?
>>129844377Every Mozart recording he did is absolutely fantastic
>>129844737>I fear I risk sounding like a complete tosser if I keep using pop-music-reviewer-tier terms like "ethereal" and "bright" and "gravitas" and "pathos"Nothing wrong with that, I know what you mean, and those adjectives properly delineate it from alternative approaches like Kubelik's verve or Karajan's stylishness.
>>129844747nonce AND szell lover
>>129844747garbage.
>>129844751>Karajan's stylishness.I didn't feel for Karajan's at all, lol. I mean the performance is competent and I wouldn't ask for it to be taken down if someone were to suggest we listen to it, but it just leaves me cold. Which is strange since a lot of my favourite recordings of notably emotional works are by him (Deutsches Requiem, Verklärte Nacht, La Mer, the Peer Gynt suites, the Reformation symphony, etc)
>>129844757Nothing wrong with Szell, he's one of my favorite conductors. Especially for classical period works
>>129844768I know you have terrible taste, you make it loud and clear every time you post you insufferable avatarfag weeb
>>129844747>>129844768Perfectly respectable.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y3-k92N7cU
>>129844776Utterly unrespectable
>>129844775nta but whats wrong with szell
>>129844775>>129844788>>129844765Show us on the doll where Szell touched you
>>129844794
wait when Szell and Boulez and Maazel headed up the Cleveland Orchestra, did they live in Cleveland? idk why but it's hard to imagine these greats living in Ohio. oh wait Boulez was only a Principal Guest Conductor, so he prob just stayed in a five-star hotel
>>129844790read the thread
>>129844790They're just trolling and being dicks, excessively so because it's the Mahoposter. Plenty of reasons to not have Szell as one of one's usual list of preferred conductors -- I personally don't these days, always opting for recordings by others for any work -- but hating him is silly.
>>129844807nothing was said about szell's value beyond>hes badim asking why hes bad
>>129844819Nothing will satisfy you. I can say he's unremarkable if not boring, that his style is stiff and uncaring in a "get-on-with-it" fashion (which I guess is why some people think he's good at classical period?), that in an era where some of the greatest conductors of one school were dying off and the greatest conductors of a new one were starting to gain traction there is no reason at all to appeal to him and his dull, fossilized style. I can say all this and more and you'll still reply with some variation of "that's not an argument, tell my why he's bad, no one is explaining why he's bad".
>>129844851And he would be perfectly fair to because all of these are subjective critiques when your initial statement was absolute. You should have said>I think Szell is badAnd you wouldnt need to make this sanctimonious ass post
>>129844884>you should just say you think it's bad; we have to be objective and only say things which are empirically trueRight, the entire general is pointless then
There's nothing wrong with a so-called subjective critique because any kind of preference or declaration of quality is always gonna boil down to listing the descriptive traits combined with one's subjective feelings on the matter. So when you ask why and that's what you get you can't complain.
>>129844908Its not that hard to preface your messages with "I think", retard
>>129844928There are objective ways to critique a performance, you're just too retarded to.
>>129844930"I think"" you're fucking stupid if you need to have people write a disclaimer at the start of every post they make which has an opinion in it. This is a music general. We talk about how we experience music.
>>129844943to*, too*
>>129844974your right
>>129844930exquisite ragebait. bravo!
y'all classical nippahs ain't ready to put a lil wyschnegradsky on the aux
>>129844993git gud
>>129844943No, there isn't. It all boils down to "how much does this performance match up with (or, alternatively, deviate) from my own ideal interpretation of the work", and if one is the charitable type, "how much does this performance match up with (or, alternatively, deviate) from an interpretation of this work I could accept as being reasonably ideal for someone else". Nonsense like "how much does this line up with the score?" is to be dismissed.
>>129845016anon... I kneel...
>>129844993To quote Kendrick Lamar: >unhh who dat?
>>129845040>>>/mu/
>>129844962>We talk about how we experience musicThats why this general is a joke. It should be a general talking about objective critique of music.
>>129845040https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k2nbynilfoJaAfVQIgpX18m5dAbbqmMHE
>>129845020Wow, i was right about you being retarded LMAO
>>129845094>this gneral is a jokeLeave then>objective critique of musicProve that such a thing is a) possible (by offering a substantial example of your own) and b) conductive to discussion, and I'll consider aiming for such a critique from now on
>>129845113>Prove that such a thing is a) possible (by offering a substantial example of your own) and b) conductive to discussion, and I'll consider aiming for such a critique from now onIf you weren't a joke, you would know.>Leave thenNah nigga you're too funny
>>129845138I see what kind of poster I'm dealing with and I'm embarrassed to have wasted an earnest effort in this.
>>129844851>that in an era where some of the greatest conductors of one school were dying off and the greatest conductors of a new one were starting to gain traction there is no reason at all to appeal to him and his dull, fossilized style.Yes there was, because the new style sucked and Szell was the only one of that era to not sound like shit
>>129845150took you long enough
>>129845150You're such a sanctimonious faggot rofl. You're not an intellectual, I would be surprised if you scored in the triple digits on an iq test.
>>129845152>the new style suckedAnd with this we're back to "im asking why hes bad" except the shoe's on the other foot now. We can all see how this'll go>>129845161k
>>129844851>his style is stiff and uncaring in a "get-on-with-it" fashionSo you never listened to him. Got it.
classical is lowkey kinda outdated, its time to move on folks
>>129845177k
Craig Sheppard's Well-Tempered Clavierhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUpDug_Nk8g&list=OLAK5uy_niuBG3f5wSLexWCEX2nVbTi56vtoD8MDc&index=31
>>129845197Swapping out the DG Tureck set for Craig Sheppard's because the former's audio quality is simply too compromised to be a serious recommendation, especially when her much clearer, and some would even say interpretatively superior, BBC set exists and is on the chart.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T-9EhOsDIM&list=OLAK5uy_nHtFdzWlFTJK2Q_IB_kTgFdQidSZqqk04&index=47There are some days when I'm still tempted to listen to it, I mean it is Tureck, the high priestess of Bach, after all, but listen to that, it's too distracting to be enjoyable, despite the marvelous playing. For me, anyway.
>>129844790Szell is completely antithetical to the intentions of the great composers. His Beethoven is absolutely sterile, vertical/chordal and dynamically static, zero singing quality (e.g. phrasing, natural breath points, shading). It is, by all means, inexpressive slop of the worst kind. >>129844884Not really, you are confusing intersubjectivity with subjectivity.
squirp your dongs
Szell is the greatest conductor who ever lived or something
>>129845260On the opposite day.
>>129845243>His Beethoven is absolutely sterile, vertical/chordal and dynamically static, zero singing quality (e.g. phrasing, natural breath points, shading). It is, by all means, inexpressive slop of the worst kind.Why do you have such strong opinions about a conductor you clearly have never heard?
>>129845271Why do you think being uninformed, ignorant loudmouth will get you anywhere?
>>129845271He has a autistic seethe session because some tranime poster likes him
>>129845271k
just came across this Beethoven piano sonatas cycle by a Daniel-Ben Pienaar. anyone familiar?19thhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huI5z4BbyZ4&list=OLAK5uy_mIJSLNLn3akcoFwQpO32R1aUgFQ58LIdQ&index=6620thhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU13FD3mRaY&list=OLAK5uy_mIJSLNLn3akcoFwQpO32R1aUgFQ58LIdQ&index=6821st, "Waldstein"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onpPZ6YRcSo&list=OLAK5uy_mIJSLNLn3akcoFwQpO32R1aUgFQ58LIdQ&index=7022ndhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1gaxLs5bco&list=OLAK5uy_mIJSLNLn3akcoFwQpO32R1aUgFQ58LIdQ&index=7323rd, "Appassionata"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr9ui51Qfik&list=OLAK5uy_mIJSLNLn3akcoFwQpO32R1aUgFQ58LIdQ&index=74nothing like spending all day in bed listening to a Beethoven piano sonata cycle on a lazy Sunday :3
Always overwhelmed by how much music there is to listen to. I try to listen to stuff posted in the thread but there is only so much time in my day and I barely get through even 1/3 of it before we have a new thread and get more links
>>129845243Who do you prefer for Beethoven?
>>129845347>how much music there is to listen toDon't even get me started. For the past few years I've been meaning to do a deep dive on baroque and renaissance music but going by my calculations and comparing it with how long it took me to properly and thoroughly become experienced with the 1750-1950 period it's going to take me the rest of my fucking life, and there'll still be worthwhile music I'll be missing out on. Shit sucks.
>>129845330Brother, it's Tuesday
>>129845347I feel you. But on the flip, there's no rush. You have your entire life to explore classical music and the abundance of the wonderful performances.Plus I suppose you learn to prioritize. Early on, I used to be all about finding new composers and pieces. Then after you've explored a good amount, you learn most are pretty mediocre, decent at best, and the greats are considered great for a reason. So, for me at least, I've learned I'd rather spend my days listening to Beethoven's piano sonatas or Bruckner's symphonies for the thousandth time (I try to do a 50:50 split or so on exploring a new recording versus one I'm already familiar with) then listening to and getting acquainted with forgettable post-romantic slop composer #15. Granted, sometimes I AM in the mood for that kind of stuff, but the vast majority of my time is spent on the greats and their music. One truly does come full circle -- start with the greats, learn some more obscure composers, return to the greats.
>>129845385oh shi-- I gotta get to work--!
>>129844674Sadly there are no better performances for my tastes in stereo. Really, the only stereo ones that I've come to enjoy, after listening to nearly every recording out there, are Gielen's Vienna recording (has its own sonic issues), and Kegel's (bit too slow and subpar soloists). Klemperer's is quite good as well, but, again, too slow. I have a strong preference for hearing this piece very fast, in the vein of Beethoven's metronome markings, but I also dislike the period style of handling this work, so that leaves HIPsters out. Not a whole lot of options for my preference.>>129844700>Klemperer>reverentialIt's big, but I wouldn't call it reverential.>>129844731Bernstein? Exciting? It's pretty moderate in tempo overall, and far from what Beethoven would have preferred in the piece. I also don't really think the choral singing or sound quality is particularly good, it has always sounded very shrill and artificial to my ears, with a weird, tubby sound to it and an absolutely bizarre balance.>>129844751>Karajan>stylishEh. He's always felt quite dull to me in the work, even though he had tip top soloists.>>129844851I find this rather weird. I agree with you on the "stiff" and "uncaring" comment, but Szell was firmly in the "new school" despite being an older conductor, referring to his style as 'dull, fossilized' when most of the new generation of conductors would ape that format, is a bit strange. Szell, like most of the performers from the second half of the 20th century, was profoundly inspired by Toscanini; i.e. closer 'adherence' to the score, reigned in interpretive gestures, higher focus on orchestral fidelity, a more metronomic sense of tempo, etc. Of course, Szell was not a pedantic Toscanini clone or anything, but his general style was obviously modeled in the same vein.
>>129845405>Szell was firmly in the "new school"No, I suggested he was firmly in the transitional period. Not part of the new school, but slightly too late to be a representative of the previous one. He seemed to agree, stating that his main focus was trying to preserve the tradition of his teachers and heroes, which he saw as in its death throes. I don't think he was successful in that respect. I think in his zeal to be conservative he overdid it and became dull and unimaginative.
>listen to 4 hours of Wagner>"y'know, I shouldn't spend all my time on Wagner today, I ought to listen something else">listen to Bach or Brahms or whomever for 10-20 minutes>"hmm, y'know what'd be good right now? some Wagner">proceed to listen to 4 more hours of Wagnernow playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPzBbEoJSho&list=OLAK5uy_lcltWKp34tSddN2FKdHoovhG9nTJa3lRA&index=42
Mozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJnTKe53DV4
>>129845330I'm only just digging in but so far this is very good and interpretatively unique if anyone is in the mood
>>129845443I don't really find him transitional at all, really. Nothing he did was remotely old school, except for being an autocratic conductor that micro managed everyone in his orchestra.
What do you think of Mahler transcripted for the piano? It's a fruitless exercise at its core, but I like some of the results. For instance, the adagio of the 6th symphony sounds quite noble in the piano setting.
>>129845470Yep, I have no idea what the hell he's talking about. Szell is as far removed from the old school as possible. I couldn't name a conductor further removed from the classical tradition, he's the very cold, modern type that Schoenberg was contrasting with the old school.>Today's manner of performing classical music of the so-called 'romantic* type, suppressing all emotional qualities and all unnotated changes of tempo and expression . . . came to Europe by way of America, where no old culture regulated presentation, but where a certain frigidity of feeling reduced all musical expression. Thus almost everywhere in Europe music is played in a stiff, inflexible metre-not in a tempo, i.e., according to a yardstick of freely measured quantities ...
>>129845563An enjoyable novelty but nothing I'd ever return to.
>>129845460>>129844794>>129844768>>129844747>>129844182mental illness
I went up to my mom and sang, "Hojotoho!" Now she's having me committed. It's so over.
>>129845567>>129845470He is just seething at tranimesister.
Rachmaninoffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L6CxUpBZlY
Does anyone else still enjoy watching Spongebob every now and then?Anyway, Verdihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4cf4-X22d4
I went up to my mom and sang,"Freude, schöner GötterfunkenTochter aus Elysium,Wir betreten feuertrunken,Himmlische, dein Heiligtum!Deine Zauber binden wiederWas die Mode streng geteilt;Alle Menschen werden Brüder,Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt."Now she's having me committed. It's so over.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1if-qr2XyA&list=OLAK5uy_kBx_2lYBIDIUw27I32RsXe3gLBb22Iba0&index=4the speedster metronomic Beethoven fans are sure to love this performance
Oh god my tummy hurts, please recommend me something for this feeling of immense abdominal anguish
>>129846177https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfTjz6emd7c
>>129844640>>129844671>>129845243>>129845443mental illness
RossiniDonizettiBelliniVerdiBoitoPonchielliLeoncavalloMascagniPucciniCileaGioranoPlanning a foray into romantic Italian opera. Am I missing anyone important?
>>129845585>>129846229can you fuck off
now playingstart of Grieg: Haugtussa, Op. 67https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaCMyON8ZGo&list=OLAK5uy_mHr7GtqrJTRl2JY7W9v72HaATZuKVDsZ8&index=2followed by a selection of songshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLu8FbcJqB8&list=OLAK5uy_mHr7GtqrJTRl2JY7W9v72HaATZuKVDsZ8&index=10https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd-dhyK2rkk&list=OLAK5uy_mHr7GtqrJTRl2JY7W9v72HaATZuKVDsZ8&index=12https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4fkibF7oaE&list=OLAK5uy_mHr7GtqrJTRl2JY7W9v72HaATZuKVDsZ8&index=14https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JZHeGcG05o&list=OLAK5uy_mHr7GtqrJTRl2JY7W9v72HaATZuKVDsZ8&index=16https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TonfA2SsKY&list=OLAK5uy_mHr7GtqrJTRl2JY7W9v72HaATZuKVDsZ8&index=23and morehttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mHr7GtqrJTRl2JY7W9v72HaATZuKVDsZ8>Two of Norway's most celebrated musicians come together to perform the music of the country's most celebrated composer, Edvard Grieg. Soprano Lise Davidsen and pianist Leif Ove celebrate the songs of Grieg with a wide-ranging collection of songs. Recorded in the Arctic Circle in Bodo - Lise describes the `magical' time recording this music with a special team in rural Norway.>>129846177doesn't get more comfy and soothing than this
>>129846241Depending on how much you're willing to stretch the definition of romantic, I'd say Cherubini. At least his late operas like Les Abencérages. And on the flipside early Respighi like Semirâma
>mom says I should get a job>I just want to listen to mozart all day
>>129846520It gets harder and harder to sympathise with you with each post you make
>>129846520better than losing your mind over a person posting an anime girl on 4chan all day
>>129846542That's obviously not the Mahoposter
Liszthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzKikcY6Ka0
>>129846520You're a bigger loser than I could ever imagine holy kek
>>129846555>obviously....hmm, I'm willing to entertain the possibility, but not at all persuaded by it yet
>>129846520based
>>129846641It's a Maho image they've never used before, posted from phone, and not even attempting to emulate their style. Mahoposter has talked a little about work and personal life stuff before. If you're convinced by this obsessed newfaggot falseflagging on a twenty year old basement dweller joke with meme arrows then either you wanted to believe it in the first place or you haven't been here long enough to know better.
>>129846677>posted from phoneIts not
>>129846677Orrrr I just don't pay attention to what avatarposters say most of the time, especially when it's off topic. But I'll take your word for it that it's someone else flaseflagging to make him look bad. I'm not trying to act on bad faith.
The singing and conducting on this Knappertsbusch 1950 Meistersinger is aceshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XpBKSWuIxs&list=OLAK5uy_lV-__iTHqwQ4MPjA_gVqfmF58ahyVFIKY&index=3If the rest keeps up the quality, it might end up as one of my favorite recordings of the work. Then again there's like four hours to go, anything can happen.
>>129846677do you think anyone else here is enough of a loser to keep track of this shit, you dork? most people don't even read half of his posts (like with any name/avatarfaggot)
>>129846865Where is the argument?
>>129846865I read and keep track of all their posts; all of your posts as well :3
>>129846883what argument? what is your autistic ass talking about?
>Rossini—Guillaume TellPretty good, but the overture is definitely the highlight of the whole thing. Which makes you wonder why you should listen to the rest of it. It felt like a lot of the excitement was packed into the finale of each act. Nothing else really stood out.
>>129847444Yeah listening to the entirety of Rossini's operas is a chore for me too. Every so often I'll give them a revisit but otherwise he's not in my regular rotation.
>>129847444I feel the exact same about 90% of opera, funny enough
>>129835377Harmony is cringe Counterpoint is based
>>129847466I'd say ~75% (of the top operas). But the ones that can standalone on their musical merits, that are worthwhile outside of just the overture and highlights, that are worth listening to outside of their plot and stage performance, are incredible, and so are worth it. Most Italian opera doesn't fit this for me.
>>129847498This post is self-contradictory
For example Debussy's Pelleas und Melisande is a one-of-a-kind masterpiece. Just consider it a symphonic-lieder cycle and you're good to go.
>>129847513Wait do you mean your post or You got me all jumbled up
>>129847499>Most Italian opera doesn't fit this for me.Yeah, I think of the 10% of operas I've listened to that loved from beginning to end they were all either german or german-adjacent (czech, for example) and mostly from the XXth century
>>129847522>german-adjacent (czech, for example)Yeah Janacek's operas definitely hold up on their own musically. I've listened to each a few times and I haven't a clue what the plot is, nor do I need to know. And of course Smetana's wonderful The Bartered Bride.
if you don't know the language of the play you are listening to and you complain about not fully enjoying it you might genuinely have a mental condition
>>129847554>playWell yeah, after all the narrative is the entire point. That's not the case at all with opera, though, where the music comes first if the composer has any talent to speak of
>Ravel >Chopin>BachLet me guess you need more?
>>129847605Pardon?
>>129847605Yeah, I do.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWoFaPwbzqE
>>129847605if i could only have 7>Debussy>Chopin>Liszt>Beethoven>Bach>Schubert>Schumannif i could only have 5>Chopin>Liszt>Beethoven>Bach>Schumannif i could only have 3>Chopin>Beethoven>Bachif i could only have 1>Beethoven
>>129847605>>129847640for solo piano*, obviously
>>129847653I was willing to accept your post until you said that
Tchaikovskyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2KiAohj43U&list=OLAK5uy_k63G-KE40NNHlWrO42aJPzeyTcGOb6Bo4&index=9
I just can't get into the classical/romantic era. The dynamics of symphony shit is just all over the place, im always adjusting the volume.
>>129847815sad if true
>live orchestra50-100 sound sources, depending on the size>recording2 sound sourcesTrying to make the dynamics of a recording match the experience of hearing it live is like trying to square the circle.
>>129847815is that tao lin?>The dynamics of symphony shit is just all over the place, im always adjusting the volume.you sure your settings aren't fucked up? otherwise, I'm really sorry to hear it bothers you that much to where you are incapable of enjoying it
>>129847844yet it's what's enabled any and all of us to enjoy an amount and variety of music that would've been beyond the wildest dreams of anyone in the pre-recording era, even rich people who could get around
>>129847860The good definitely heavily outweighs the bad. Just something to be aware of.
>>129847882It's just no contest at all, especially considering the quality of recordings we've been getting the past half-century, that only get better with time
>>129847844>Trying to make the dynamics of a recording match the experience of hearing it live is like trying to square the circle.No, it's more like trying to fill a rectangular hole with a square-peg; while it's not perfect and won't fill the entire thing, it does fit to some satisfaction.
bump limithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByRRBAYpERg&list=OLAK5uy_lV-__iTHqwQ4MPjA_gVqfmF58ahyVFIKY&index=19
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